March 07, 2014

Newsmax Plans a "Kinder, Gentler" Right-Leaning Television Alternative to Fox
— Ace

Interesting.

The founder of the conservative media company Newsmax is planning to launch a cable TV network to compete with Fox News, but not quite the same. Christopher Ruddy wants to launch Newsmax TV later this year, and is billing it as a “kinder, gentler Fox” that will be “more information-based rather than being vituperative and polarizing.”

Bloomberg Businessweek’s profile of Ruddy notes that he himself isn’t a Republican and is “more moderate” than you might expect from the head of Newsmax. But Ruddy thinks there’s room in the cable landscape for a conservative competitor to Fox News, which hasn’t been done effectively to date.

It's a good idea. Fox would benefit from some competition, in terms of quality, though of course not in terms of ratings.

As far as Newsmax's suggestion they'd be a "kinder, gentler" Fox, I take that largely as brand differentiation, seizing upon Fox's perceived weakness (or at least its weakness as divined by critics). I'm not sure how serious they are about that.* End of the day, controversy and argument seems to be good for ratings.

Beck's Blaze TV, a commenter tells me, is being picked up by cable stations, too.

But I think this is for the good. More voices, not fewer. In addition, any Fox competitor would actually help to mainstream the idea of actually reporting fairly on conservative positions -- right now Fox is essentially ghettoized, by being all alone in offering a fair take where conservatives are more than props or punchlines. Multiple stations with the same basic mission takes them all out of the ghetto.


* Hmm: If "kinder, gentler" is a code for female-skewing, that would be a more interesting attempt at brand differentiation. Conservative-leaning women are probably an underserved market, as conservative media, generally, skews male in tone.

At least it seems that way to me.

For example: Why hasn't Fox launched a "View" clone? (Or have they already and I just didn't know about it?)

Every other channel has a View clone. Why not Fox?

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1 Hmmmm, I wonder if they've firmed up their nighttime lineup yet?

Posted by: Shep Smith at March 07, 2014 12:24 PM (6TB1Z)

2 1st?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 12:24 PM (HVff2)

3 Go away, Shep.

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:24 PM (6TB1Z)

4 And no.

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:25 PM (6TB1Z)

5 Yeah, that'll probably work.

Do we really need another news network?

Lately, I've not been watching any of them.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 07, 2014 12:25 PM (Z7PrM)

6 Clearly the Friday afternoon early rush hour has started.

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:25 PM (6TB1Z)

7 Well I find Fox News, the news portion to be subjective. The night time does lean right and I like that. Our cable system just picked up Beck, I would check out Newsmax. Another dagger in the back of MSNBC and CNN would be awesome.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 12:25 PM (HVff2)

8 ..... rspectfully.....can we haz one to the right of Fox???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 07, 2014 12:25 PM (nELVU)

9 Yeah, that'll probably work.

Do we really need another news network?

Lately, I've not been watching any of them.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

Network news cons: slow baud rate, to many commercials
Network news pros: T&A, at least on Fox.

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:26 PM (6TB1Z)

10 We need Immigration Reform NOW so that Univision Espanol can get some competition from all of the new right leaning South of the Border Immigrants!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 07, 2014 12:26 PM (32Ze2)

11 Geez Pep/Shep 3rd person conversation? Hand out with Bob Dole often? :-)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 12:26 PM (HVff2)

12 T and A, not TA.  Damn ghost ampersands.

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:27 PM (6TB1Z)

13 "Kinder, Gentler" Right-Leaning Translation: Much, MUCH further left of that oh so slightly, lightly right tilting hate monger Fox News.

Posted by: dogfish at March 07, 2014 12:27 PM (nsOJa)

14 so then we'd have two marginalized, nominally "conservative" channels, dukeing it out over the ghetto, while the MFM either ignores or misrepresents them?

now *thats* progress.

not...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 07, 2014 12:27 PM (q+fqH)

15 Every other channel has a View clone. Why not Fox?

-----

Damaged DNA.

Case in point.... Joy Behar.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 07, 2014 12:27 PM (nELVU)

16 For example: Why hasn't Fox launched a "View" clone? (Or have they already and I just didn't know about it?) _________________ It's called The 5. They just rarely have guests and don't do cooking or lady part segments.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 07, 2014 12:28 PM (32Ze2)

17 "Kinder and gentler" than Fox? I guess they could hug Obama after calling him a "patriot ". Maybe have a fashion talk session with Mooch. They could call it NewsMax Soft Ball Channel or "NMSBC".

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at March 07, 2014 12:28 PM (5ikDv)

18 Hand out with Bob Dole often?

Wait, that's my job!

Posted by: Liddy at March 07, 2014 12:28 PM (6TB1Z)

19

Newsmax?

 

If you turn on the channel, a little screen will pop-up in the corner showing something entirely different. On autoplay.

 

Posted by: Bigby's Chewed Up Fingernails at March 07, 2014 12:28 PM (3ZtZW)

20 I would like to see more coverage of ideas and less on the inside baseball of DC and political skirmishes. I hate all politicians at this point so what they do and say is of no interest to me anymore. You can only say "Obama sucks" about 20 million times in different iterations before it becomes repetitive.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at March 07, 2014 12:29 PM (h+2SD)

21 Fox doesn't have a View clone because conservative women are not that vapid and unintelligent.

Posted by: Shibumi at March 07, 2014 12:29 PM (25HWz)

22 >>>It's called The 5. They just rarely have guests and don't do cooking or lady part segments. well, sure, but that's a coed thing. Unless you're saying Greg Gutfeld is a little girl. And I'm not arguing with you: I'm just seeking to clarify your meaning.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:29 PM (/FnUH)

23 Good. We also need alternative entertainment channels. Could never figure out why Fox did not launch a baby Fox. Or an International Fox channel. Or, just straight news. But, maybe they see CNN (fail), and NBC's baby network MSNBC (fail). Focus the money on the win. But, then again, we do not know what they have up their sleeves.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 12:29 PM (IXrOn)

24 For example: Why hasn't Fox launched a "View" clone? (Or have they already and I just didn't know about it?)
***
Can you find three media bubbleheads willing to appear on fox?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 12:29 PM (P3U0f)

25 >>>Fox doesn't have a View clone because conservative women are not that vapid and unintelligent. no but women's outlook, priorities, and interests are different from men's, of course. We are not of a unisex mind.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:29 PM (/FnUH)

26 You can only say "Obama sucks" about 20 million times in different iterations before it becomes repetitive.

Clearly you know nothing of my work. 

Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 07, 2014 12:30 PM (6TB1Z)

27 Did I tell you I had a Teddy Bear when I was little?

Posted by: Karl Rove at March 07, 2014 12:30 PM (pgQxn)

28 I suspect that a Newsmax station would get as much attention as their emails, i.e., none.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 07, 2014 12:30 PM (aDwsi)

29 Newsmax is less respected in leftardia than Fox is, if that's possible Newsmax is one step above Infowars to them.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at March 07, 2014 12:30 PM (YmPwQ)

30 There isn't much room to be to the left of Fox and still be on the right.

In my mind Newsmax already has a strike against them by perpetuating the leftist narrative of what Fox is.  It is time we stop accepting that not choosing to use force through the application of more government to solve every problem constitutes something other than the kindest and gentlest of all political views.  A kinder and gentler Fox to me means Newsmax has swallowed the assumptions of the left and will not be challenging the status quo.

Hopefully it is more marketing than fact.

Posted by: Thatch at March 07, 2014 12:30 PM (qYvEa)

31 I think a Fox "View clone" could be very good if done in the right way. Fox and friends without the men and more focused on women's crap.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at March 07, 2014 12:30 PM (h+2SD)

32 >>>Can you find three media bubbleheads willing to appear on fox? I wouldn't call her a bubblehead but if you mean "female host," sure, we've got lots of those.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:30 PM (/FnUH)

33 I used to go to the Newsmax news site every day, a while ago, and I just couldn't get hooked to the site. Hopefully, the show will be better.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 12:31 PM (IXrOn)

34 Can you find three media bubbleheads willing to appear on fox?

Ace, Gabe and who?

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 07, 2014 12:31 PM (q+fqH)

35 *shows

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 12:31 PM (IXrOn)

36

Beck's Blaze TV, a commenter tells me, is being picked up by cable stations, too.

 

 

The bumpers write themselves:

 

"You won't belive what this woman did to cure her tinnitus by using this one weird trick!"

Posted by: wytshus at March 07, 2014 12:31 PM (DErq5)

37 FoxBusiness has the FoxNews' B-team pundits. And does terrible ratings even though it's in a lot of households now.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:31 PM (ZPrif)

38 >>>Unless you're saying Greg Gutfeld is a little girl. <<<


Shorty robes, house boys, and love of unicorns does not a girl make.

How dare you, sir?

Posted by: Greg Gutfeld at March 07, 2014 12:32 PM (dR1z4)

39 For example: Why hasn't Fox launched a "View" clone?


They got Shep Smith Reporting with all that bling in the background.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2014 12:32 PM (P1WNR)

40 Gutfield is the best part of The 5..... Oh, and Kimberly Gargoyles absolutely awesome pins...... and Boobehs.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 07, 2014 12:32 PM (32Ze2)

41 Kinder and Gentler Conservative: That would be, what? Kris Kreosote on the bottom?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 12:32 PM (olDqf)

42 Heh, I think a hard right leaning channel would blow them all out of the waterÂ….. Sponsors: Mossberg Shotguns, Jack Link and Hooter'sÂ….

Posted by: redguy at March 07, 2014 12:32 PM (d8wEw)

43
hmmm......

Andrea Tantaro
Meghan Kelly
Harris Faulkner
Kate Obenshain

.... all on one show???  Every Day???


Id cancel Cinemax in a heart beat.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 07, 2014 12:33 PM (nELVU)

44 >>>Oh, and Kimberly Gargoyles absolutely awesome pins...... and Boobehs. eff yeah. Sometimes the camera pulls back and wowza.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:33 PM (/FnUH)

45

>>no but women's outlook, priorities, and interests are different from men's, of course.

 

I don't know. One of the arguments for small-c conservatism is that everyone wants the same kind of things, at a basic level. You know, like they want their kids to do well and etc. If its divvied male vs. female, how conservative is it, as an approach I mean?

Posted by: Bigby's Chewed Up Fingernails at March 07, 2014 12:33 PM (3ZtZW)

46 I'm not even a leg guy but wow, nice legs.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:33 PM (/FnUH)

47 Every other channel has a View clone. Why not Fox? Good question. Fox News sucks and that would fit their suck model perfectly.

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2014 12:33 PM (Hy7dS)

48 25 >>>Fox doesn't have a View clone because conservative women are not that vapid and unintelligent. no but women's outlook, priorities, and interests are different from men's, of course. We are not of a unisex mind. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:29 PM (/FnUH) My guess most conservative women don't have an hour to blow off watching tv in the morning.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (HVff2)

49 Hard part in starting any cable channel is getting picked up. WWE tried to launch a WWE Network on cable for the past 5 years. Finally they gave up and launched it as an "over the top" digital internet channel. BlazeTV has been picked up by lots of tiny cable companies -- but it's being blackballed by the big boys like Comcast, Time Warner, DirecTV, etc. I think Dish picked them up, that's the only sizeable one. It's also why Beck has tried to soften his image in the last year or two -- it's all about getting picked up by Comcast (who owns MSNBC and gives tons of money to Obama and the Left).

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (ZPrif)

50 So, the IRS is going to turn over more documents and emails from Lois Lerner. I'm sure they'll be three-quarters blacked out. http://tinyurl.com/mezbzav Call me when her ass is in jail.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (GrtrJ)

51 43 Posted by: fixerupper at March 07, 2014 04:33 PM (nELVU) What ever happened to Uma Pemmaraju? I like Injuns.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (olDqf)

52 A new news channel doesn't have to lean either left or right. Just give the straight news no matter who it hurts. Is that even possible anymore?

Posted by: Biff Boffo at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (YmPwQ)

53 >>>I don't know. One of the arguments for small-c conservatism is that everyone wants the same kind of things, at a basic level. You know, like they want their kids to do well and etc. If its divvied male vs. female, how conservative is it, as an approach I mean? I'm not even talking about politics, exactly. The View does that, but it mixes in (I gather) cultural/fun type stuff that women like.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (/FnUH)

54

>>>Newsmax is less respected in leftardia than Fox is, if that's possible Newsmax is one step above Infowars to them.

 

Hey, I agree with that. Dick Morris posts there.

Posted by: Bigby's Chewed Up Fingernails at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (3ZtZW)

55 "Every other channel has a View clone. Why not Fox?" Because conservative women don't want to watch 5 vapid talking heads who happen to be female.

Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (hFL/3)

56 eff yeah. Sometimes the camera pulls back and wowza. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:33 PM (/FnUH) >>>>> I usually watch The 5 from my Bunk.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 07, 2014 12:34 PM (32Ze2)

57 >>>My guess most conservative women don't have an hour to blow off watching tv in the morning. eh, there are moms at home who watch tv while working.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:35 PM (/FnUH)

58 A Fox View clone is a great idea. There could be sandwich-making episodes, episodes on the art of shutting up and of course on how to please your man.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2014 12:35 PM (P1WNR)

59 Thanks for the willow, y'all. I'd rather see a harder, confrontational, 80 grit toilet paper, curb stomp news show. Screw the kinder, gentler shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2014 12:35 PM (ndIek)

60 I guess you could call this my Chill Groove of the day? I'm kind of with the others that don't pay much attention to any of the MFM anymore - Fox included. I get most of the clips I need to see online. Does it really matter if the cable companies don't bother picking up this new channel, btw?

Posted by: shredded chi at March 07, 2014 12:35 PM (0k2IJ)

61 "Kinder, gentler" sounds like New England republicans, so I'm guessing RINO TV. Gun control, gay marriage evangelicalism, etc.

Posted by: George h w bush at March 07, 2014 12:36 PM (vyAun)

62 >>>Because conservative women don't want to watch 5 vapid talking heads who happen to be female. assume they're not vapid. Same answer? I mean just suppose (this can't happen) but that they got MKH, Dana Loesch, and Laura Ingraham, plus some random Liberal We Put On For the Hasselbeck "Foil" Role.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:36 PM (/FnUH)

63 To be a honest, a View type women's show would be right in Palin's wheelhouse. Better then her hunting and slice of Americana type stuff.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 07, 2014 12:36 PM (IV4od)

64 You can't just "decide to launch" a new cable channel. The cable/satcaster have to pick you up. That means they pay you a fee per subscriber (which is the goldmine Beck is chasing). That fee then has to be passed on to the consumers, who then bitch about rising cable fees. Exception is Al Jazeera. Rumor is Al Jazeera doesn't charge a fee to the cable/satcasters since it's run as a propaganda arm by Qatar.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:36 PM (ZPrif)

65

 "Every other channel has a View clone. Why not Fox?"

 

Fox NFL Sunday -   for your vapid  talking-head  fix.

Posted by: Roy at March 07, 2014 12:36 PM (VndSC)

66 Hmm: If "kinder, gentler" is a code for female-skewing, that would be a more interesting attempt at brand differentiation. There's a conservative-leaning woman at home who's gonna get skewered tonight after a couple of roofie-coladas.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (pqBkB)

67 >>>58 A Fox View clone is a great idea. There could be sandwich-making episodes, episodes on the art of shutting up and of course on how to please your man. this is exactly the sort of information that women need. You're on my wavelength.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (/FnUH)

68 Actually what we need is a right-wing version of MSNBC.

Posted by: Caliban at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (DrC22)

69 eff yeah. Sometimes the camera pulls back and wowza.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:33 PM (/FnUH)


----


That "thing" she does.... bouncing her crossed leg up and down.... up and down.... up and down.... up and down....


She does that to drive me crazy... on purpose.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (nELVU)

70

>>I'm not even talking about politics, exactly. The View does that, but it mixes in (I gather) cultural/fun type stuff that women like.

 

Ah OK

Posted by: Bigby's Chewed Up Fingernails at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (3ZtZW)

71 I would watch a conservative version of The View and I bet my mom would too. Especially if it focused on women's topics but with a conservative POV or suggestions.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (GrtrJ)

72 Poor Newsmax. Few meds can cure such levels of self-delusion.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (kqGWM)

73 I'd rather see a harder, confrontational, 80 grit toilet paper, curb stomp news show. Screw the kinder, gentler shit.

It's impossible to listen to Levin and Savage on the radio; I certainly couldn't look at them as well. 

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (6TB1Z)

74 >>> To be a honest, a View type women's show would be right in Palin's wheelhouse. oh yeah, forgot about her.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:37 PM (/FnUH)

75 I mean just suppose (this can't happen) but that they got MKH, Dana Loesch, and Laura Ingraham, plus some random Liberal We Put On For the Hasselbeck "Foil" Role. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:36 PM (/FnUH) _________________ My expiration date is almost here, but I am available

Posted by: Jane Fonda at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (32Ze2)

76 The 5 is kinda the conservative View -- but obviously skews male. Usually has 3 dudes, 2 chicks. FoxNews daytime anchors are mostly female. And the vibe is super flirty morning showish.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (ZPrif)

77 So Bolton Peters and Rove are gonna be busy!

Posted by: Bjork oBama the dirty scandi what can't spell at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (QM5S2)

78 If "kinder and gentler" means more hot, leggy conservative newsbabes, I'm on board!

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (/AHDz)

79 Fox NFL Sunday- for your vapid talking-head fix. Posted by: Roy at March 07, 2014 04:36 PM (VndSC) That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: tbodie at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (5SlKF)

80 I would never watch a show geared to women. Shows geared to women are crap.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (oMKp3)

81 Let me give you an example: Common Core is a bigger issue among women than men. I'm not saying that it's not a big deal among men. But it's a matter of how highly we prioritize it. Michelle Malkin writes about it a lot. We only cover it here sporadically.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (/FnUH)

82 I mean just suppose (this can't happen) but that they got MKH, Dana Loesch, and Laura Ingraham, plus some random Liberal We Put On For the Hasselbeck "Foil" Role. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:36 PM (/FnUH Nice eye candy and then some 250# shrill left wing biyotch. Wow, call me crazy I might watch.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 12:38 PM (HVff2)

83 The Five is Fox's View-clone.

Posted by: Buddha at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (s/sIv)

84
They could have a View clone where Shepherd Smith and all the other girls on the network chat while they get pedicures.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (OZmbA)

85 I think the time has come: Ace of Spades HQ TV Network. I have the satellite jammer standing by and the ship is off the 12 mile limit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (olDqf)

86
I'll be down with Fox late night in a few weeks.  Standby and get ready to rock it out when we kick the other guy's asses.

Posted by: Jay Leno at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (nQjHM)

87 I don't have a TV, so my opinion mean bupkis. So, I think a network that concentrated on women with guns and liveleak war pron of Muslims flying thru the air after Hellfire strikes would do well.

Posted by: Jean at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (4JkHl)

88 A Fox View clone is a great idea. There could be sandwich-making episodes, episodes on the art of shutting up and of course on how to please your man. And tips for listening .....from the kitchen.

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (Hy7dS)

89 "Kinder and gentler" than Fox?
***
When I think of Fox I think of O'Reilly "looking out for the folks" while yelling at someone.

If it wasn't like that I might actually watch it again.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (P3U0f)

90 I think there's more room for a FoxNews competitor on the right -- ie Blaze -- than the left. The left is pretty well covered. I know several moderate Repubs who think FoxNews is too right wing. They watch MSNBC.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:39 PM (ZPrif)

91 85 I think the time has come: Ace of Spades HQ TV Network. I have the satellite jammer standing by and the ship is off the 12 mile limit. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 04:39 PM (olDqf) Ok, does this mean my platinum subscription goes up in price?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (HVff2)

92

>>Michelle Malkin writes about it a lot. We only cover it here sporadically.

 

Thats becoz of the sexism and bigotry

Posted by: Bigby's Chewed Up Fingernails at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (3ZtZW)

93
Fox never lets me appear because the producers believe I have a big ass.

Posted by: Debbie Wassermanly Schultz at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (nQjHM)

94 Episode 1 Fox View : The clitoris, stop looking fellas it doesn't exist.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (P1WNR)

95 And in the same spirit as those motorcycle fabricator shows, gun smithing - AR builds, popular mods, trigger jobs, etc.

Posted by: Jean at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (4JkHl)

96 >>76 The 5 is kinda the conservative View -- but obviously skews male. Usually has 3 dudes, 2 chicks.<<


That's what I'd do if I had a million dollars, man. Two chicks at the same time.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (OZmbA)

97 80 I would never watch a show geared to women. Shows geared to women are crap. Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 04:38 PM (oMKp3 But they don't *have* to be. What about five intelligent women talking about conservative topics, fads etc that pertain to women? Sure, libs like vapid and crap but it doesn't mean a conservative version would have to be the same. Sometimes I think we, as conservatives, reflexively resist and cringe popular culture that we miss out on reaching out.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (GrtrJ)

98 Just what we need: a Vichy Fox channel.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (080XV)

99 "I mean just suppose (this can't happen) but that they got MKH, Dana Loesch, and Laura Ingraham, plus some random Liberal We Put On For the Hasselbeck "Foil" Role." I don't know. To me Fox already has The Five and Red Eye for chatter shows. I don't really watch either anymore since we went Netflix/hulu/amazon only but Do they really need The Five, Red Eye, and Generic Women's Ensemble show? Personally, I was happy with just Red Eye. If it were smart women, maybe they could make it work, but I don't think it's *needed* in the Fox line up, if that makes sense. If I want my ladies stuff, I'll shamefully read Real Simple Magazine in the bath, thank you very much.

Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (hFL/3)

100 Ah, good, at last a compassionate and polite way to say, "I'm sorry but you are wrong." to win the hearts and minds of the other side.

In other news, Drudge links two news stories (which I didn't bother to read, the headline and source are sufficient) that suggests anonymous threats online will not be tolerated. If you are going to make threats, you have to be identified so you can get the counseling and treatment you need.

Posted by: The Diplomat at March 07, 2014 12:40 PM (0JrP9)

101 68 Actually what we need is a right-wing version of MSNBC.

====
They honestly believe that MSLSD is just a mirror image of Fox. Maybe it's me, I don't see batshit crazy RWNJ hosts on Fox.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at March 07, 2014 12:41 PM (YmPwQ)

102 I would never watch a show geared to women. Shows geared to women are crap. Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 04:38 PM (oMKp3) _______________ Now now sweetie... why would you say that? (Ducks, covers....)

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 07, 2014 12:41 PM (32Ze2)

103 91 Ok, does this mean my platinum subscription goes up in price? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 04:40 PM (HVff2) We were going to give you an air shift.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 12:41 PM (olDqf)

104 That "thing" she does.... bouncing her crossed leg up and down.... up and down.... up and down.... up and down....
She does that to drive me crazy... on purpose.

Way back when, I worked as a poolboy at the local club.  One day, someone brought in a dirty book, and the woman who ran the snack bar (and who had a boyfriend in jail) decided to read it during lunch.  We adolescent males decided to see how she reacted, so we peered around the corner, and sure enough, she was sitting in a chair in the back with her leg crossed and going up and down at what had to have been 10 Hz. 

Good times and fond memories. 

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:41 PM (6TB1Z)

105 94 Episode 1 Fox View : The clitoris, stop looking fellas it doesn't exist. Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2014 04:40 PM (P1WNR) I thought Clint Torrez was Mike Huntsman's running mate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 12:41 PM (olDqf)

106 But the View is also not on a news channel. The format is not good for breaking news stories. FoxBusiness pundit shows do terrible in the ratings. Oh, Kudlow's show on CNBC just got canceled.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:41 PM (ZPrif)

107 Doubt it'll work.  I'm not a tv news watcher and because my better half is a (tax-hating, pro-gun) Democrat, we don't watch Fox hardly at all. *But* the one occasion I do remember it being on, it elicited a comment from the other side of the room to the effect of, "this isn't so bad, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about."

With a couple of exceptions, Fox isn't vitriolic at all in their partisanship, and never on the level of any of MSNBC's commentators.  Simply put, Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) have an interest in portraying conservative politicians and media outlets as being batsh*t insane and are remarkably good at absolutely convincing their audience that this is universally the case.  Regardless of content, any news network that openly identifies as conservative is going to get this treatment regardless. 

IMO, if there's a market niche anywhere for conservative TV news, it's not trying to carve out some little market share in between Fox and CNN, it's for a full bore, MSNBC-style right wing network for folks that don't think Fox goes far enough in criticizing Obama and Democrats.  Of course it'd take about a week of programming before the Southern Law Poverty Center listed them as a hate group, but that'd probably just add to their appeal.

Posted by: LukeinNE at March 07, 2014 12:42 PM (pi7Td)

108
I could take over O'Reilly's slot and turn some big audience numbers without all the "lookin' out for you bullshit."

Posted by: Laura Ingraham at March 07, 2014 12:42 PM (nQjHM)

109 Stay tuned for our upcoming cable news channel! In our opening segment we discuss the dangers posed by amphibious space alien mind control techniques, and how Barack Obama is planning to use them to conquer the known universe.

Posted by: World Net Daily at March 07, 2014 12:42 PM (SY2Kh)

110 108 I could take over O'Reilly's slot and turn some big audience numbers without all the "lookin' out for you bullshit." Posted by: Laura Ingraham at March 07, 2014 04:42 PM (nQjHM) O'Reilly's "slot." Heh...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 12:42 PM (olDqf)

111 Sounds suspect to me. Fox, except for Hannity, is hardly right wing. It only looks so next to MSM. Also, isn't Newsmax owned by the moonies that own the Washington Times?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 12:42 PM (0FSuD)

112 To be a honest, a View type women's show would be right in Palin's wheelhouse. --------------------------- Her voice is too grating. I'd rather listen to Susan Estrich narrate the audiobook version of "Lady Chatterly's Lover" than 1 hour of sentiments I agreed with as screeched out by Teh Grizzlycuda.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 07, 2014 12:42 PM (pqBkB)

113 >>>I don't really watch either anymore since we went Netflix/hulu/amazon only but Do they really need The Five, Red Eye, and Generic Women's Ensemble show? eh, I assume this type of show is popular, or it wouldn't be cloned so frequently. I also assume that conservative women are much LESS into the whole Sisterhood of Solidarity thing, but that doesn't mean they don't like stuff pitched to them especially.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:42 PM (/FnUH)

114 I've always thought there was a huge niche market for a network between Fox and the raving left, and the best way to get the biggest numbers would be to go slightly to the left of Fox.  So "kinder, gentler" might mean that, slightly to the left.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 07, 2014 12:43 PM (Iyg03)

115 Newsmax is less respected in leftardia than Fox is, if that's possible Newsmax is one step above Infowars to them.
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Oddly the left *loved* infowars until Jan 2009...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 12:43 PM (P3U0f)

116 Episode 2 Fox View : 3-Ways, Every Wife's Duty.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2014 12:43 PM (P1WNR)

117 Fox never lets me appear because the producers believe I have a big ass. Posted by: Debbie Wassermanly Schultz at March 07, 2014 04:40 PM (nQjHM) __________________ Not true. That's not what we said. We said it because your hair SMELLS like ass.

Posted by: Fox News Producers at March 07, 2014 12:43 PM (32Ze2)

118 I wish someone would create an E! type of channel with a conservative slant. We're losing because the E! and MTVs of the world are 100% liberal and that's what the yuuts are watching. An alternative in pop culture from even a slightly right point of view would do more than 10 new Fox News clones.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 12:43 PM (0LHZx)

119 I think they should have a documentary on "Dames of the IDF." Something.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 12:43 PM (olDqf)

120 Sarah Palin.
Michelle Malkin.
Katie Pavlich.
Sonnie Johnson.

That'd be quite a "View."

Posted by: Hat* Mis*r at March 07, 2014 12:43 PM (dR1z4)

121 They may not want vituperative but the first time someone steps outside the PC Obama-love parameters of the MBM, they will get vituperative.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (XUKZU)

122 I thought the "bitches" on 'Red Eye' were our 'View' crew.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (dZGNV)

123 Okay..., talk is cheap. Name members for the female panel. Assign a priority to them. Place them in order of priority. You don't have to name 5, just whoever you'd like, and assign a number. For instance, I might like: Michell Malkin 1 Greta Van Susteren 2 Phyllis Schlafly 3

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (aDwsi)

124
Fox won't book me because I'm both a hard core lesbian and a women's studies major.

Posted by: Sally "Cooter" Kohn at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (nQjHM)

125 When I think of Fox I think of O'Reilly "looking out for the folks" while yelling at someone. Exactly. Garbazh.

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (Hy7dS)

126 Jill Dobson, Lauren Sivan, Brooke Goldstein and that Carrie chick with the stupendous knockers.

...

What are we talking about again?

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (Nksua)

127 But they don't *have* to be. What about five intelligent women talking about conservative topics, fads etc that pertain to women? Like what? Seriously, what conservative issues are there that pertain specifically to women? How to decorate your living room with Gadsden flags? Anytime something is turned towards women, it degenerates into mindless drivel.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (oMKp3)

128 Wait...is female-skewing code for female-boning?

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (hJnUx)

129 eh, there are moms at home who watch tv while working.

To me it would make more sense/be more productive to launch a show for "moms at home" and give it a casually conservative editorial bent than launch an explicitly "conservative women's show."  Non-conservative women will not watch "explicitily conservative" but both groups will watch "good content with a subtle conservative underpinning.

Same as Glenn Reynolds idea to have a conservative consortium buy a Women's Day type magazine, really. 

Posted by: HR at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (ZKzrr)

130 I remember Ruddy when he was an anti-Clintonite writing books about Vince Foster. His patron was Richard Mellon Scaife. Scaife was the 1990s Koch Brothers, by the way.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (oFCZn)

131 I'm holding an all night session about global warming.

Posted by: Hairy Reid at March 07, 2014 12:44 PM (Aif/5)

132 >>> wish someone would create an E! type of channel with a conservative slant. We're losing because the E! and MTVs of the world are 100% liberal and that's what the yuuts are watching. An alternative in pop culture from even a slightly right point of view would do more than 10 new Fox News clones. yup. which is why I proposed the toe-in-the-water "View" type show. The problem with conservative political media is that it's almost all explicitly conservative and political. You don't sneak up on people that way. The left, they're sneakers.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:45 PM (/FnUH)

133 There is a kind of landrush going on in conservative media. So announcing plans like this seems to be a thing. NewsMax is kind of bland and has been getting passed by, it seems, so this could be an attempt to get some buzz. Also not sure if they want to be acquired or looking to do some acquiring. Been a good bit of that going around.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:45 PM (ZPrif)

134 "Empire of Jeff at March 07, 2014 04:42 PM (pqBkB)"

To that I say, Jot Behar.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 07, 2014 12:45 PM (IV4od)

135 108 I could take over O'Reilly's slot and turn some big audience numbers without all the "lookin' out for you bullshit." Posted by: Laura Ingraham at March 07, 2014 04:42 PM (nQjHM) PLEASE GOD DO SO. And you are a hell of a lot better looking!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 12:45 PM (0FSuD)

136 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 07, 2014 04:41 PM (olDqf Thanks, J.J. that is awesome!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2014 12:45 PM (HVff2)

137 Call me!

Posted by: Geraldo ! [/i] [/b] at March 07, 2014 12:45 PM (5ikDv)

138 How about a 24-hour _Duck Dynasty_ network news channel?

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2014 12:45 PM (gqT4g)

139 * Hmm: If "kinder, gentler" is a code for female-skewing, that would be a more interesting attempt at brand differentiation. Conservative-leaning women are probably an underserved market, as conservative media, generally, skews male in tone. ----------------------- I think this is absolutely correct.

Posted by: MJ at March 07, 2014 12:46 PM (oari7)

140 Elise Viebeck.  Her politics?  I haven't the foggiest, probably mild left, but at some point, other considerations intrude.

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 12:46 PM (6TB1Z)

141
Harry's holding an all night session to discuss the impropriety of molestation.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at March 07, 2014 12:46 PM (nQjHM)

142 O'Reilly has had the #1 show in cable news for years now. Obviously he's meeting a market demand. I'm not that market, but his format obviously works.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:47 PM (ZPrif)

143 And another thing...

What better way to drill into that huge honeypot of Fox viewers than to make a grab for the moderate-to-left people who tune in? 

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 07, 2014 12:47 PM (Iyg03)

144 Why does Laura Ingraham's weird voice turn me on?

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2014 12:47 PM (Hy7dS)

145 It's also why Beck has tried to soften his image in the last year or two -- it's all about getting picked up by Comcast (who owns MSNBC and gives tons of money to Obama and the Left).

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 04:34 PM (ZPrif)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

From yesterday's radio show, I think Beck is giving up on Comcast/Time Warner.  He's was more or less telling them to fuck off.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (IaanB)

146 Actually what we need is a right-wing version of MSNBC.
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That will never work.

The left is strongly hierarchical so MSNBC gets their marching orders and push the official version of reality that liberals will then believe in.

Conservatives are too independent and wouldn't put up with it.

Hell look at Rove's antics. If he were a Democrat he would be in a position similiar to see a Soros - setting the agenda for the movement and the party, but Rove  can only pull rank in the latter...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (P3U0f)

147 Episode 3 Fox View : The Penis, Gimme.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (P1WNR)

148 I think a Fox View clone would be awesome, as it would show the substantive, intelligent and tough-as-nails nature of conservative women.  My TL on Twitter is loaded with them, too.

Posted by: MtTB at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (lQCe+)

149 Surprised no one is putting forth Sarah Cupp as their choice for a View format. Pleasantly surprised, but still surprised.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (pqBkB)

150 To me it would make more sense/be more productive to launch a show for "moms at home" and give it a casually conservative editorial bent than launch an explicitly "conservative women's show." Non-conservative women will not watch "explicitily conservative" but both groups will watch "good content with a subtle conservative underpinning. Same as Glenn Reynolds idea to have a conservative consortium buy a Women's Day type magazine, really. Posted by: HR at March 07, 2014 04:44 PM (ZKzrr) _________ EXACTLY!! If you call anything "conservative __________" you automatically lose any potential non-conservative viewers/readers. The key is to be conservative without anyone realizing you're being conservative....just like the MSM does it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (0LHZx)

151 Not true. That's not what we said. We said it because your hair SMELLSlooks like a guerrilla ass. Posted by: Fox News Producers at March 07, 2014 04:43 PM (32Ze2) FIFY

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (0FSuD)

152 I wish someone would create an E! type of channel with a conservative slant. We're losing because the E! and MTVs of the world are 100% liberal and that's what the yuuts are watching. In what decade are you currently living?

Posted by: World Net Daily at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (SY2Kh)

153 I mean just suppose (this can't happen) but that they got MKH, Dana Loesch, and Laura Ingraham, plus some random Liberal We Put On For the Hasselbeck "Foil" Role. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:36 PM (/FnUH) Some good choices. Laura I's radio show is really good - where few women succeed - conservative talk radio... I'd bet she couldn't do both as she fills in for O'Reilly, and is so busy otherwise (with family, etc). The odd thing about Laura is she interrupts people on TV interviews a lot, whereas she doesn't seem to overrun people as much on the radio. Not sure why. I prefer her on radio. Ann Coulter wouldn't be considered "soft."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (IXrOn)

154
I could gain market share by concentrating on women studies major's.

Posted by: Meggy McCain at March 07, 2014 12:48 PM (nQjHM)

155 >>
The problem with conservative political media is that it's almost all explicitly conservative and political.

You don't sneak up on people that way. The left, they're sneakers.

--ace
<<



Exaaaactly.  The Fox show should be the same topics as the View but with veiled left bashing snark instead of right bashing snark.  Not being funny here. (well, obviously)

Posted by: Sphynx at March 07, 2014 12:49 PM (OZmbA)

156 >>>Jill Dobson, Lauren Sivan, Brooke Goldstein and that Carrie chick with the stupendous knockers.<<<



Carrie Keagan.

Red Eye royalty all.

(also SE Cupp before she went all MSLSD)


Posted by: Hat* Mis*r at March 07, 2014 12:49 PM (dR1z4)

157 Who's Sarah Cupp? Seriously.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 07, 2014 12:49 PM (IV4od)

158 FoxNews has moved to the Left in recent years. And has definitely toned down the confrontational aspect. Really skeptical there is a passionate niche audience out there demanding NewsMax TV. And that's what you need.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:49 PM (ZPrif)

159 140 Elise Viebeck. Her politics? I haven't the foggiest, probably mild left, but at some point, other considerations intrude. ----------- Whenever I've seen her on Fox she's seemed pretty even handed. And you're right she is teh hawt.

Posted by: Adam at March 07, 2014 12:49 PM (Aif/5)

160 Common core curricula in public education should be :

1. Can you read
2. Can you write
3. Can you do arithmetic
4. Do you remember history, the why, and the what

and that is exactly what public education fails to accomplish.

Posted by: The Diplomat at March 07, 2014 12:49 PM (0JrP9)

161 MSNBC has more in common with RT than FNC. All of the self-promoting Lean Forward commercials remind me of Soviet Realism made modern and uniquely Northeastern American. Best of all? If you pirate an online stream of international MSNBC, then you see nothing but those commercials over and over again between segments.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 07, 2014 12:50 PM (kqGWM)

162
The biggest mistake of my life was the night I boned Bill Maher.

Posted by: All Coulter at March 07, 2014 12:50 PM (nQjHM)

163 "Anytime something is turned towards women, it degenerates into mindless drivel" Exactly!

Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 12:50 PM (hFL/3)

164 Alec Baldwin and Kieth Olberman are both available.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 07, 2014 12:50 PM (XUKZU)

165 Available!

Posted by: Peggy Noonan [/i] [/b] at March 07, 2014 12:50 PM (5ikDv)

166 I'm not even talking about politics, exactly. The View does that, but it mixes in (I gather) cultural/fun type stuff that women like.  Is the stuff The View talks about really what women like, or are they steering the conversations in the direction of what they WANT women to be interested in? Really, I can't imagine the average woman (even LIVs) cares about lefty causes as much as that group.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 07, 2014 12:50 PM (0k2IJ)

167 Anytime something is turned towards women, it degenerates into mindless drivel./i]

It's by design.  Let the men worry about the economy and the future and stuff.  You just worry about feeding the babies and looking pretty.

(Although I've noticed "men's magazines" are mostly about looking pretty anymore.)

Posted by: HR at March 07, 2014 12:51 PM (ZKzrr)

168 Sock off. I'd have a lot more appreciation for Fox News if they developed more content. And by "more content" I don't mean Bill O'Reilly's show re-broadcast 8 times a fucking night.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 07, 2014 12:51 PM (SY2Kh)

169 >>>Same as Glenn Reynolds idea to have a conservative consortium buy a Women's Day type magazine, really. this is one of the best ideas in the world.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:51 PM (/FnUH)

170 The problem with conservative political media is that it's almost all explicitly conservative and political. You don't sneak up on people that way. The left, they're sneakers. Yeah. They just make crap up out of whole cloth. --Sounds legit......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2014 12:51 PM (ndIek)

171 >>>Who's Sarah Cupp? Seriously.<<<



Sarah Elizabeth (S.E.) Cupp

Posted by: Hat* Mis*r at March 07, 2014 12:51 PM (dR1z4)

172 FoxNews has moved to the Left in recent years. And has definitely toned down the confrontational aspect.
***
As most major institutions they see the carrot and the stick the modern left brings. Consider, for example, that the Obama administration was threatening to send monitors into their news rooms...that has an effect even if the goons aren't actually sent out...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 12:51 PM (P3U0f)

173 NewsMax seems to be trying to be a center-right USA Today.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 12:52 PM (ZPrif)

174
S E Cupp has mammygoogler sized hooters and wears librarian glasses.  Yes, we would all hit it!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 07, 2014 12:52 PM (nQjHM)

175 153 I mean just suppose (this can't happen) but that they got MKH, Dana Loesch, and Laura Ingraham, plus some random Liberal We Put On For the Hasselbeck "Foil" Role. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:36 PM (/FnUH) Hey, throw in NDH just to spice up the group!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 12:52 PM (0FSuD)

176 Like what? Seriously, what conservative issues are there that pertain specifically to women? How to decorate your living room with Gadsden flags? Anytime something is turned towards women, it degenerates into mindless drivel. Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 04:44 PM (oMKp3) Like homeschooling. Workplace issues. Money issues. Cooking. Books and movies written by conservative authors or that portray conservative topics. It doesn't have to be blatant OMG decorate with the Gadsen flag in your face. Have an underlying current of conservative values and topics that isn't adulterated by the liberal bullshit the entire world seems to want to foist upon us. Wouldn't that be refreshing? For instance, I have a friend who is writing a romance novel, but with underlying and very subtle conservative messages. He's trying to push conservatism to the mindless masses in a way that it isn't in their face and preachy and it's attractive. It's getting our message out to the public. If people think that isn't important, then fine. But there is no way you're going to reach the LIV and other folks without using popular culture.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 07, 2014 12:53 PM (GrtrJ)

177  Sarah Palin.
Michelle Malkin.
Katie Pavlich.
Sonnie Johnson.

That'd be quite a "View."

Posted by: Hat* Mis*r at March 07, 2014 04:43 PM (dR1z4)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

Actually, those aren't bad choices.  All are solid and nice to look at.  Shit, I might even watch that.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 12:53 PM (IaanB)

178 Are men's magazines really for, you know, men?

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2014 12:53 PM (Hy7dS)

179 They should give a slot to Gemma Worrell of Blackpool England.

The 20yr old pulled a President when she Tweeted wondering why 'if barraco barner is out president why is he getting involved with russia. scary.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 12:53 PM (J9ECY)

180 Give up, Newsmax. They're gonna call you "Fox News's angrier kid brother" no matter what your approach it. Just market yourself as "conservative" and you'll have an audience. Lefties will not be disarmed by your "kindness and gentleness."

Posted by: dabhidh at March 07, 2014 12:54 PM (j9/Wf)

181 Anyway I have to go. Have a great weekend.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 07, 2014 12:54 PM (GrtrJ)

182 I also assume that conservative women are much LESS into the whole Sisterhood of Solidarity thing, but that doesn't mean they don't like stuff pitched to them especially.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:42 PM
=====

I can see a Smith And Wesson sponsorship, right off the top ...

Posted by: mrp at March 07, 2014 12:54 PM (JBggj)

183 "Conservative-leaning women are probably an underserved market, as conservative media, generally, skews male in tone."

BS.

Either the author doesn't watch Fox, or he's a undocumented dimocrat. There are gobs of women anchors 24/7 on the Fox.
The women on Fox are articulate, don't follow a talking points with guests, ask tough questions, and interrupt when the pinkos start their used to be misnon-interruptable spin.
 Even my granddaughters stop and listen to Greta and Megan.

Only thing leaning about any of them is they talk to fast for this old man so I usually end up reading a book with the show muted and read those crap banners for the highlights.

Posted by: Tortuga at March 07, 2014 12:54 PM (FmyWU)

184 I wonder if "kinder/gentler" might mean fewer Juan Williams types to argue the White House talking points.  Wouldn't it be nice just to have straight news, no lefty slant, no card stacking, no stories the left wants to focus on?

Maybe some first principle show could be produced to teach Hayek, Smith, Locke, and others in a more accessible way?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 07, 2014 12:54 PM (P7Wsr)

185
The 20yr old pulled a President when she Tweeted wondering why 'if barraco barner is out president why is he getting involved with russia. scary.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 04:53 PM (J9ECY)


Please inform that young lady it's pronounced Bronco Bama.

Posted by: Bronco Bama at March 07, 2014 12:54 PM (nQjHM)

186 I do agree with sneaking conservative messaging into programming though. It just has to be good programming. That's why I really like Red Eye.

Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 12:54 PM (hFL/3)

187

Like homeschooling. Workplace issues. Money issues. Cooking. Books and movies written by conservative authors or that portray conservative topics.

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

Don't forget  self-defense.  You know.  Guns.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 12:55 PM (IaanB)

188 I have the exact opposite opinion of Newsmax. As far as i'm concerned, Fox is all too wimpy when it comes to presenting the news. I've been saying for a long time, till news broadcasters say everything is fucked up because we have an ignorant stupid Democrat fucking things up, then they simply aren't reporting the truth. We need more blunt, not less.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 12:55 PM (bb5+k)

189 The left doesn't " sneak" leftism into everything,they jam it down your throat.

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 12:55 PM (zqvg6)

190 It's good because I refuse to watch some on FNC, Bill O'Ego, Geraldo, Juan, Huck, Rove & Shep. Competition would be good for FNC or Faux news because they were biased for Romney in 2011 before he had no nation. Hannity gets on my nerves, I see no reason to offer a lib side!

Posted by: Carol at March 07, 2014 12:55 PM (yU1Dt)

191 >>>Like homeschooling. Workplace issues. Money issues. Cooking. Books and movies written by conservative authors or that portray conservative topics. It doesn't have to be blatant OMG decorate with the Gadsen flag in your face. Have an underlying current of conservative values and topics that isn't adulterated by the liberal bullshit the entire world seems to want to foist upon us. Wouldn't that be refreshing? For instance, I have a friend who is writing a romance novel, but with underlying and very subtle conservative messages. He's trying to push conservatism to the mindless masses in a way that it isn't in their face and preachy and it's attractive. It's getting our message out to the public. ... One thing conservative media does is explicitly brand it as such (which you shorthand as "putting up the Gadsden flag"). This guarantees it an audience -- but a limited audience. It will get a certain amount of notice for being The Conservative Alternative (TM), but it will not move beyond being a niche alternative thing. It is riskier-- but potentially much more rewarding -- to not wear one's conservative stripes so openly.

Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (/FnUH)

192 Are men's magazines really for, you know, men? Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2014 04:53 PM (Hy7dS) --------------------------- Of course they're for men.* *Men who are familiar with the taste of penis.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (2XS4E)

193 S E Cupp has mammygoogler sized hooters and wears librarian glasses. First Bing image that comes up is her with her mouth in "the hummer" position.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (ndIek)

194 162 The biggest mistake of my life was the night I boned Bill Maher. Posted by: Ann Coulter at March 07, 2014 04:50 PM (nQjHM) Man, that makes me feel a lot better.

Posted by: Bob Guccione, Jr at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (0FSuD)

195
Really, I can't imagine the average woman (even LIVs) cares about lefty causes as much as that group.
***
Part of the way the left works is by eliminating the idea that politics and ideology are separate from anything else.

So a conservative can talk about art, history, pop culture, etc...but a committed liberal will always, always include political elements in everything. It does put people off who don't care a bit...but it affects their world view.

Suppose you are a LIV and you don't care about politics. You go to ESPN and read that conservatives sucks. You go watch a move with your friends and conservatives are portrayed as Hitler. You listen to the latest college rock hit and hear conservatives are H8ters. After a while you absorb this because where do you hear anything else?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (P3U0f)

196 You get Ashton Kutcher on. That's how you reach women.

Posted by: MJ at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (oari7)

197 Because it's Friday during Lent, here is a good one for you'se guys....... "Bless me Father, for I have sinned. I have been with a loose girl." The priest asks, "Is that you, little Joey Pagano?" "Yes, Father, it is." "And who was the girl you were with?" "I can't tell you, Father. I don't want to ruin her reputation." "Well, Joey, I'm sure to find out her name sooner or later so you may as well tell me now. Was it Tina Minetti?" "I cannot say." "Was it Teresa Mazzarelli?" "I'll never tell." "Was it Nina Capelli?" "I'm sorry, but I cannot name her." "Was it Cathy Piriano?" "My lips are sealed." "Was it Rosa DiAngelo, then?" "Please, Father! I cannot tell you." The priest sighs in frustration. "You're very tight lipped, and I admire that. But you've sinned and have to atone. You cannot be an altar boy now for 4 months. Now you go and behave yourself." Joey walks back to his pew, and his friend Franco slides over and whispers, "What'd you get?" "Four months vacation and five good leads..."

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (32Ze2)

198 If people think that isn't important, then fine. But there is no way you're going to reach the LIV and other folks without using popular culture. Posted by: DangerGirl at March 07, 2014 04:53 PM (GrtrJ) The reason CPAC is so *yawn* boring.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (IXrOn)

199 Comcast going to carry The Blaze?

Posted by: Carol at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (yU1Dt)

200 Bringing together the combined the talents of Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and RINOs everywhere.

Posted by: The Tearful Planet Amnesty Newshour[/i] [/b] at March 07, 2014 12:56 PM (5ikDv)

201 If people think that isn't important, then fine. But there is no way you're going to reach the LIV and other folks without using popular culture.

This is the HQ, where any thread on popular culture gets half a dozen people putting on a moral preening parade about how they don't own a television.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 07, 2014 12:57 PM (B/VB5)

202 The left doesn't " sneak" leftism into everything,they jam it down your throat.
___
And not always just figuratively...right lil Willy?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 07, 2014 12:57 PM (P3U0f)

203 Maybe some first principle show could be produced to teach Hayek, Smith, Locke, and others in a more accessible way? Posted by: bonhomme at March 07, 2014 04:54 PM (P7Wsr) Yes. But it probably has to be entertaining first. We have become so tuned out as a nation, that serious topics aren't absorbed unless they are also fun.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 12:57 PM (bb5+k)

204 You know what I would like?   A network that, get this, reports the news.  Just, you know, hey this happened.  And this.   And that thing over there.   Also look a giant squid!  (Okay, maybe that's just for me)

It's an idea so crazy it just might work. 

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 07, 2014 12:58 PM (Gk3SS)

205 Fox's rating would immediately jump two points if Shep was banned from the holodeck.

Posted by: Fritz at March 07, 2014 12:58 PM (UzPAd)

206 One thing conservative media does is explicitly brand it as such (which you shorthand as "putting up the Gadsden flag"). This guarantees it an audience -- but a limited audience. It will get a certain amount of notice for being The Conservative Alternative (TM), but it will not move beyond being a niche alternative thing. It is riskier-- but potentially much more rewarding -- to not wear one's conservative stripes so openly. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:56 PM (/FnUH) _________ The View has never branded itself as "liberal". Hell even MSNBC, with a straight face claims to be non-partisan. But yet every conservative anything is self branded as conservative be it blogs, tv shows, books, magazines, whatever.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 12:58 PM (0LHZx)

207 Yeah, something that give Roger Ailes a moment's pause would be worth it.  The non-Fox cable "news" shows are so whacked that Ailes could phone it in every night and still beat 'em combined.

Posted by: mrp at March 07, 2014 12:58 PM (JBggj)

208 They sneak and they cram. It's a full spectrum of indoctrination.

Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 12:58 PM (hFL/3)

209 Truck Monkey that joke cracked me up!

Posted by: Carol at March 07, 2014 12:58 PM (yU1Dt)

210 The left doesn't " sneak" leftism into everything,they jam it down your throat. Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 04:55 PM (zqvg6) Ubiquitously.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (IXrOn)

211 I didn't see MKH's name in there anywhere. I'm disappointed.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (F26eZ)

212 Here is Gemma's story and the backlash she got.
http://tinyurl.com/lmscv37

Though Voldemort Poo Tin cracks me up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (J9ECY)

213 187 Like homeschooling. Workplace issues. Money issues. Cooking. Books and movies written by conservative authors or that portray conservative topics. ------------------------------------------- Don't forget self-defense. You know. Guns. -------------- Ya, I could see watching a show like that. I guess I just don't automatically see those as women's issues. But I see your point. Something like we do here on the weekend threads - a variety of interests from a conservative viewpoint. I get it.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (oMKp3)

214 173 NewsMax seems to be trying to be a center-right USA Today. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 04:52 PM (ZPrif) _________ Pretty good idea if they can make it work.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (0LHZx)

215
I'd rather listen to Susan Estrich narrate the audiobook version of "Lady Chatterly's Lover" than 1 hour of sentiments I agreed with as screeched out by Teh Grizzlycuda.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 07, 2014 04:42 PM (pqBkB)









Susan Estrich's voice reminds me of a more manly Harvey Fierstein.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (TIIx5)

216 189 The left doesn't " sneak" leftism into everything,they jam it down your throat. Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 04:55 PM (zqvg6) And the fucking LIE!!!!!!!!! DELIBERATELY!!!!! Did you see this? http://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes /2014/03/06/ap-smears-trail-life-boys- with-misleading-nazi-photo-n1805270

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (bb5+k)

217 199 Comcast going to carry The Blaze? Posted by: Carol at March 07, 2014 04:56 PM (yU1Dt) It would be a cold day in hell, you know they own NBC and MSNBC, right?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (0FSuD)

218 On aces point about not being in your face, use it to promote the other FOX network shows. What woman wouldn't tune in to see Karl Urban or that Sleepyhollow guy?

Posted by: lowandslow at March 07, 2014 12:59 PM (IV4od)

219 Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:56 PM (/FnUH) Heh. Sounds like life in academia. Out yourself as a conservative, get blackballed. Subtly build up a record of "individualism" and you're OK though.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (hq5sb)

220 My criticism of Fox is the whole 'fair, balanced' bullshit. They'll have a conservative and a leftie to debate an issue. The leftie comes in with talking points, does not address the issue at hand, acts dismissive and high and mighty, talks over the conservative and the host, and leaves a foul smelling turd in the room. I can't stand to watch the leftie drop trou like that. I save twenty dollars a month by not having Fox on my cable 'tier'. I don't miss them. Someone else wants to try to do better? Good.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (CnA98)

221 Anybody who thinks Fox is hardcore conservative is dumber than shit or a liberal, which is the same thing.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (T2V/1)

222 Rather than a clone if 'The View', how about a program with an entirely transgendered panel? Get in there ahead of the rush, and beat the competition like a rented mule with being 'closed-minded'.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (lILC0)

223 Jenna Bush Kathryn Lopez The Anchoress Condoleezza Rice Ann Althouse.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (dZGNV)

224 So it's the George H. W Bush news network.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (dvRYt)

225 This is the HQ, where any thread on popular culture gets half a dozen people putting on a moral preening parade about how they don't own a television. Posted by: Ian S. at March 07, 2014 04:57 PM (B/VB5) --------------------------- These goddamn "talkies" were the ruination of entertainment in this country.

Posted by: Empire of Vic at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (2XS4E)

226 I wonder if "kinder/gentler" might mean fewer Juan Williams types to argue the White House talking points.

He serves a purpose.  Pinata. 

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (6TB1Z)

227 216 Yeah,ace did a whole post.They are disgusting,they stop at nothing.

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 01:00 PM (zqvg6)

228 Huh. So NewsmaxTV.com is a thing. Runs 24/7. Appears to be free. Not sure what shows it runs. Or how many are live. It's running the Steve Malzberg Show right now. No idea who he is. It had commercials for: 1) A book about how awesome Pope France is. 2) A book/website about Powerful Financial Secrets that can offer returns of 20% a year. 3) A book/website Simple Heart Cure about heart health and new research showing your doctor is screwing up your blood pressure measurement -- seems to be gaming for potential class action lawsuit membership. Then it said it would feature Bill Donohue - Prez of Catholic League, Henninger from WSJ, and Gary Kasparaov on Ukraine. Not sure if this is a radio show simulcast. Doesn't appear to be.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:02 PM (ZPrif)

229 Meanwhile three Middle Eastern countries have banned Russel Crowe's movie Noah.

http://tinyurl.com/n2recvf

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 01:02 PM (J9ECY)

230 Will no one rid me of these Peggy Noonan links?  Harumpf!!!!

Posted by: The Palm Beach Agorist at March 07, 2014 01:02 PM (uJbZ6)

231 Comcast going to carry The Blaze?

Posted by: Carol at March 07, 2014 04:56 PM (yU1Dt)

 

 

Beck insinuated yesterday that Comcast is a big NO.  They'll never provide access to the Blaze.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 01:02 PM (IaanB)

232 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 04:58 PM (0LHZx) I have no idea why, but for some reason that whole shtick seems to work with a subset of the conservative audience. "The news the main stream media won't tell you." "Hidden information." Or if you're targeting medical stuff. "The cure the FDA doesn't want you to know about." Having said that, it's clear CNN is so desperate it's trying to capture the stoner movement. So it's not like other networks don't do nice markets.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:02 PM (hq5sb)

233 Susan Estrich's voice reminds me of a more manly Harvey Fierstein. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2014 04:59 PM (TIIx5) --------------------------- Harvey Fierstein's voice reminds me of a more feminine Carol Channing.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 07, 2014 01:03 PM (pqBkB)

234

I don't like the 'kinder/gentler' characterization, but what about more of the PBS/Old  School Buckley style? Less slick, less loud, more substance?

 

Although it might not be a bad idea to have something that shows more heartwarming news stories.

Posted by: Lea at March 07, 2014 01:03 PM (lIU4e)

235 TheBlaze TV has awesome production values, a stripped down industrial hipster motif

Posted by: Jose at March 07, 2014 01:04 PM (zc/sw)

236 hmmm...... Andrea Tantaro Meghan Kelly Harris Faulkner Kate Obenshain .... all on one show??? Every Day??? FUCK ALL YOU GUYS I HATE YOU. You just wait till DADDY gets home. *cries into a five gallon pail of rocky road*

Posted by: Mehgan McCain at March 07, 2014 01:04 PM (SY2Kh)

237 220  I save twenty dollars a month by not having Fox on my cable 'tier'. I don't miss them. Someone else wants to try to do better? Good.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 07, 2014 05:00 PM (CnA9



I save $85/month by dropping them all and having nothing.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 07, 2014 01:04 PM (T2V/1)

238 And the fucking LIE!!!!!!!!! DELIBERATELY!!!!!
***
The left handles this by claiming that reality is malleable. So it isn't that Obama's economic policies have failed, the issue is that enough people don't believe they will succeed and so they don't.

In this case the issue, to the left, isn't that the reporter submitted a misleading picture...he took an accurate picture because in his mind these kids are just like NAZIs even if they share nothing with the actual real world National Socialists because they are in an organization opposed to gay scouts...

We should laugh at them for this, and did for a bit in the early 00s, but conservatives have largely given them a pass since then.


Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 01:04 PM (P3U0f)

239 "how about a program with an entirely transgendered panel?"

MSNBC already beat you to it, it's called their daytime programming.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 07, 2014 01:04 PM (IV4od)

240 "Kinder, Gentler" Right-Leaning


Translation: Much, MUCH further left of that oh so slightly, lightly right tilting hate monger Fox News.

Posted by: dogfish at March 07, 2014 04:27 PM (nsOJa)



There's plenty of room to the right of Fox; right, Ailes?

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 07, 2014 01:05 PM (NI2j4)

241 They better not book Huckabee.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 01:05 PM (oMKp3)

242
"Chris Ruddy owner of Newsmax is registered as an Independent and is more moderate than the rhetoric typically espoused by his media properties. He has become friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton and wonÂ’t rule out supporting Hillary for president in 2016. "




Conservative, in the broad sense of the term.  Big tent!




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:05 PM (kdS6q)

243 239 "how about a program with an entirely transgendered panel?" Isn't that Madcows show?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 01:06 PM (0FSuD)

244 Posted by: Vic at March 07, 2014 05:04 PM (T2V/1) You're cable bill will never cease to amaze me. $85 is my entire cable and internet bill (ok $88, but point remains.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:06 PM (hq5sb)

245 To expand a bit, it's like the fact that movies made for women usually suck. I mean, obviously someone is watching them because they keep getting made, but they're terrible. It's with that knowledge that I fear a women focused news program. However, I very much like the idea of a conservative leaning women's mag. Really, the ones that are aimed at married women are just asking for a conservative counterpart. Nothing worse than reading Better Homes and Gardens and getting punched by some random liberal crap. Or, even worse, parenting mags. Can we have a conservative parenting magazine? Fill OBs waiting rooms up with something better than "Why your Congressman Sucks and Hates Children For Voting Against Obamacare!"

Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 01:06 PM (hFL/3)

246 My (sadly more limited than it should be) experience with conservative women is that Fox is too far to the left for them. Not sure the kindler gentler thing will be that demographically-focused - on the other hand, they could suck some of the Urban Center Fiscal Conservative-Ish air out of Fox News' sails. *One of them* needs to start having low-key interviews with prominent or notable lefties - especially not political figures - focusing on ideas. Yeah, screamers would be bored, but someone needs to start building bridges, even at a shallow spot, just as a safety valve. As someone pointed out above, the politically active left aren't just not conversing, they're sabotaging the conversation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 07, 2014 01:06 PM (qyfb5)

247 A common cable TV strategy is you launch with a hard-core niche audience -- think Speed Channel, Scifi Channel, etc. Then over time you try to escape your niche since it's limiting. But it's very useful for the first 5-10 years of a channel. So advertising being "conservative" is actually smart for a startup media outlet. You have to have a Unique Selling Proposition and all that. Why should anyone pay attention to you?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:06 PM (ZPrif)

248 227 216 Yeah,ace did a whole post.They are disgusting,they stop at nothing. Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 05:00 PM (zqvg6) Eh? Must have missed it. Sometimes I have to get some actual work done once in awhile. But good. At least he covered it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 01:06 PM (bb5+k)

249 Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 05:06 PM (0FSuD) My wife gets Chris Hayes and Maddow confused when we're channel surfing. It is an endless source of amusement for me. Frankly I think that Sally Kohn on Crossfire looks like CNN is trying to pass her off as a poor man's Maddow (who's really isn't all that special either, but she has a cult.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:07 PM (hq5sb)

250 These goddamn "talkies" were the ruination of entertainment in this country. Posted by: Empire of Vic

Well, la-di-da.  Cave paintings not good enough for you, your majesty?

Posted by: Homo Evictus at March 07, 2014 01:07 PM (6TB1Z)

251 I'd like to have a Fox channel with actual conservatives on it.

Posted by: toby928© at March 07, 2014 01:07 PM (QupBk)

252 By all means, let us air more shows like The SpewÂ… I can feel brain cells dying whenever i accidentally run across it on the dial.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 07, 2014 01:07 PM (HsTG8)

253 The answer to "free speech" is not less of it, but more of it. Ask my Canadian friends at Free Dominion how that "lawfare" is doing for them. It's been going on since 1997....

Good folks- trapped in a legal battle.

Posted by: backhoe at March 07, 2014 01:07 PM (ULH4o)

254 Even though I'd love a more information-based news channel (spare me the ckufing "expert" opinion guys and just give me the info), it just can't compete with the sheer volume of news I can consume and cross reference in much shorter time than a TV show can give me. That being said, I think there's a huge market for a more information-based format with a right-leaning perspective.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:07 PM (gBnkX)

255 Outlier - Jeanine Pirro. Has she been mentioned?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 07, 2014 01:08 PM (aDwsi)

256 238 The wingnuts are purposely holding the economy down because they hate that the black man is president!

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 01:08 PM (zqvg6)

257
S E Cupp has mammygoogler sized hooters and wears librarian glasses.


First Bing image that comes up is her with her mouth in "the hummer" position.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2014 04:56 PM (ndIek)









LOTS of SE Cupp photos on the 'tubes in that position.

One of my favorites.....

http://tinyurl.com/ozzgc7t

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2014 01:08 PM (TIIx5)

258 This sounds like a winner.

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2014 01:09 PM (a5WY+)

259 I don't want Ruddy doing any Ph testing of my pool. We would all die of bacterial poisoning.

Posted by: Otto Tyme at March 07, 2014 01:09 PM (Kz9dH)

260

"Common Core is a bigger issue among women than men."

Common Core complaints have been showing up in my facebook feed from female friends pretty consistently for weeks.

Posted by: Lea at March 07, 2014 01:09 PM (lIU4e)

261 "I would never watch a show geared to women. Shows geared to women are crap."

They have more than half of the votes and all of the woo woo. Better get used to it.

Posted by: navybrat at March 07, 2014 01:10 PM (AW7Gr)

262 NewsMax TV so far has only had ads for financial and medical crank advice. And religious books. Looks like the only show they have is this Malzberg Show. Runs 2-6 pm every day, live. Seems like a pretty standard conservative talk radio style show. Just a video stream. Kasparov has been working all the conservative media for days.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:10 PM (ZPrif)

263 Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 05:08 PM (zqvg6) I never understood this argument. I'll do a lot of things in the name of politics. However I never shoot myself in the foot economically over it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:10 PM (hq5sb)

264 Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:56 PM (/FnUH) ---------- You make a good point. The left was slowly boiling the frog for years until Obama then they went full bore progressive.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 07, 2014 01:10 PM (V40IZ)

265 They better not book Huckabee. Huckabee AND Santorum, please. The perpetual sweater vested candidate -- while I agree with him on some limited areas -- is like three month old milk. I don't have to even give it the customary sniff to know it's past its shelf life.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at March 07, 2014 01:11 PM (CnA98)

266 On youtube there isn't much in the way of "access" issues. Minimal gatekeepers. Yet most of the popular stuff skews left-wing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:11 PM (ZPrif)

267 We should laugh at them for this, and did for a bit in the early 00s, but conservatives have largely given them a pass since then. Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 05:04 PM (P3U0f) Over at FREE REPUBLIC I opined that whoever is responsible for that deserves a highly painful and personal beating, and were it my son he had done such a thing to, I would travel to whatever city he happens to live in, and give it to him. More people getting the shit beat out of them for pulling shit like that, the less likely others will want to pull that same sort of shit. As Andrew Jackson said: "never tell a lie, nor take what is not your own, nor sue anybody for slander, assault and battery. Always settle them cases yourself."

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 01:11 PM (bb5+k)

268 245 To expand a bit, it's like the fact that movies made for women usually suck. Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 05:06 PM (hFL/3) {{hugs}} I was kind of subjected to one at a friend's place on Thanksgiving. Even facing the other way and trying to do something else, it was like an hour and a half of fingernails on a chalkboard combined with a baby crying and people screaming in pain. I was kind of aghast at the three ladies sitting and thinking this was entertainment - tie me to a chair and force that one me for 8-10 hours and save yourself the trouble of waterboarding me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 07, 2014 01:12 PM (qyfb5)

269 Fox news shows are center left a tad.  Their evening talk shows are right except for that asshole O'Reilley  who is left.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 07, 2014 01:12 PM (T2V/1)

270 If Newsmax is like Fox News in that its purpose is to service a niche market for profit, no thanks. Why? Because they just wanna stroke us and keep.our eyeballs glued to the sets.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 07, 2014 01:12 PM (FqZ/E)

271
Ruddy describes himself as “not as far to the right” as Fox’s Ailes. “You want to help people … but you also want to make sure it doesn’t create a cycle of dependency,” he says. He favors preserving Social Security and Medicare, extending unemployment benefits, raising the minimum wage, reforming immigration, even forgiving student loans.

In a recent Newsmax editorial lambasting Rand Paul for dredging up the Monica Lewinsky affair, he wrote, “As one of the participants in those battles back then who was a critic of President Clinton, I can say with some degree of certainty we made a mistake.”




As he counts his stacks of cash from hearing aid and pecker pill ads.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:12 PM (kdS6q)

272 Kasparov has been working all the conservative media for days.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 05:10 PM (ZPrif)



Garry isn't shy about badmouthing both Vlad and the JEF.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 07, 2014 01:12 PM (NI2j4)

273

Everyone I know who knows about tech trends ( people under 30 ) tell me cable tv is dead already, it just hasn't fallen down. The I-Net is the future, with all content consumer-chosen and selected at the individual program level.

This shit is re-arranging deck chairs on the roof of the US Consulate in Benghazi.

Posted by: The Palm Beach Agorist at March 07, 2014 01:13 PM (uJbZ6)

274 >>>>94 Episode 1 Fox View : The clitoris, stop looking fellas it doesn't exist. Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2014 04:40 PM (P1WNR) Someone else may have mentioned it already, but it's right behind the G spot.

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 07, 2014 01:13 PM (8MjqI)

275

@ 42

That is the right idea. A real conservative news channel would take a good chunk out of Fox News. Fox ain't conservative, it is middle of the road. It just looks conservative compared to the lefty CNNs, MSNBCs, ABCs, CBSs etc. People with conservative leanings watch Fox because it is the least offensive to them compared with the other choices. Just like they tend to give Republicans their vote as opposed to the Democratic Socialist Party.

Posted by: Shep Smith the Anderson Cooper of Fox News at March 07, 2014 01:13 PM (VDovR)

276 Likely scenario for Republicans 2014, perhaps 2016 also. 30 sec. video: https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/KBxSntGGm8U?rel=0

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 07, 2014 01:13 PM (aDwsi)

277 "never tell a lie, nor take what is not your own, nor sue anybody for slander, assault and battery. Always settle them cases yourself." Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 05:11 PM (bb5+k) He killed 13 men in duels.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 01:13 PM (0FSuD)

278 "Common Core complaints have been showing up in my facebook feed from female friends pretty consistently for weeks." I got into a (mostly respectful) argument on FB with a circle of educators from my friends list on the subject of CC a few weeks ago. The level of entitlement of some educators is amazing. I got a few "We're teaching it, so live with it" and "It's for the children, how could you disagree with it?" types of arguments. They were shocked, SHOCKED that someone could possibly have any legitimate criticisms of this program. A few of the educators were seemed to get it and privately messaged me that they were cringing at their colleagues' responses.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:14 PM (gBnkX)

279 Here are the top talk radio ratings for Feb 2014 http://www.talkers.com/top-talk-radio-audiences/ Talkers.com is the top industry news source. They are all over this NewsMax news as well.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:14 PM (ZPrif)

280 If by kinder gentler they mean less screaching and more discussion I'm all for it More babes would be cool as well

Posted by: Finn McCool at March 07, 2014 01:14 PM (rHjtN)

281 ot - I guess Rand Paul had the most listeners. Standing room only - only one to fill the venue; and standing ovation. The young love him.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 01:14 PM (IXrOn)

282 263 Of course not.Nobody would.The fact that they have brought it up just proves how delusional they are.

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 01:15 PM (zqvg6)

283 196 You get Ashton Kutcher on. That's how you reach women. Posted by: MJ at March 07, 2014 04:56 PM (oari7) ------------------------ Okay, maybe you're kidding but you're right. "Women's" programming doesn't mean a panel of women. Why not a conservative Phil Donahue? A conservative "View" or "Oprah" should NOT approach subjects from a "female" point of view. Rather, it would just present topics that especially (not exclusively) appeal to women and approach them naturally, sensibly. In any case, the belief that women, especially conservative women, are more interested in female talkers than male ones is hooey.

Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at March 07, 2014 01:15 PM (dfYL9)

284 Laura Ingraham's audience is small compared to Rush/Hannity. She gets 3.25M. Tied for 7th, though.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:15 PM (ZPrif)

285 Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 05:14 PM (gBnkX Odd, I just had a talk with a left leaning school teacher a few months back who said "common core is the suck"* *This is not an actual quote but it gets the idea. There are people who like it?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:15 PM (hq5sb)

286 Andrea Tantaro Meghan Kelly Harris Faulkner Kate Obenshain Are we still talking about a show or my wishlist for an oil party in my basement?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 07, 2014 01:16 PM (oFCZn)

287 Soona's new Russian bride?
http://youtu.be/AlXpiPfx_lU

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 01:16 PM (J9ECY)

288
"I would never watch a show geared to women. Shows geared to women are crap."



Red Shoe Diaries and the other Skinimax naughty shows. Have their -- moments.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:16 PM (kdS6q)

289 Limbaugh 14M, Hannity 13.25M. Beck and Levin have 7.5M Savage 5M

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:16 PM (ZPrif)

290 "never tell a lie, nor take what is not your own, nor sue anybody for slander, assault and battery. Always settle them cases yourself."

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 05:11 PM (bb5+k)

 

 

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Right out of the Bible.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 01:16 PM (IaanB)

291 >>>Someone else may have mentioned it already, but it's right behind the G spot.<<<

Wrong. Try again.

Posted by: Fritz at March 07, 2014 01:17 PM (UzPAd)

292 How about a news channel that reports the fucking news without all the pomp, circumstance and opinion injected into everything!?!?!?!?

Posted by: © Sponge at March 07, 2014 01:17 PM (xmcEQ)

293 "Kasparov has been working all the conservative media for days." Kasparov might be a lefty, but you can't deny he understands strategy.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:17 PM (gBnkX)

294 So this Ruddy fellow essentially holds a slight grasp upon the most tenuous wisps of right-wing thinking, and views conservatism not as an actual core philosophy of life but merely as a product to be cynically niche-marketed.

Where have we heard this before? It's awfully familiar. Oh yeah. This guy.

"I'll be anything you want me to be. Do you want me to be Ronald Reagan? Okay, I'll be Reagan."

Yes, it's the BOB DOLE NETWORK.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2014 01:18 PM (gqT4g)

295 What is "male tone," pray tell?

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at March 07, 2014 01:18 PM (R+h7Q)

296 The demographics on talk radio must skew older.Is the audience dying off?

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 01:18 PM (zqvg6)

297 A few of the educators were seemed to get it and privately messaged me that they were cringing at their colleagues' responses.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 05:14 PM (gBnkX)



The concept of school boards and teachers being responsive to the community is the biggest pile of garbage that has ever been foisted on the public.  They actively discourage any input by parents into their fiefdom.  Mrs Hate served on the local PTA and was amazed at the shit sammiches they expected her to gulp down on command.  And like it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 07, 2014 01:18 PM (NI2j4)

298 The demographics on talk radio must skew older.Is the audience dying off? Posted by: steevy --------------- Yes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 07, 2014 01:19 PM (aDwsi)

299 I guess Rand Paul had the most listeners
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Unlike most Republicans he seems to want to fight and know how.

I can't wait until he gets in a room with Bill Clinton when the War on Wimmenz kicks into high gear...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 01:19 PM (P3U0f)

300 Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 05:11 PM (bb5+k) He killed 13 men in duels. Posted by: Nip Sip at March 07, 2014 05:13 PM (0FSuD) You didn't fuck with Andrew Jackson lightly.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 01:19 PM (bb5+k)

301 I still think hitlery will win, but Rand Paul is the best choice for a national candidate in '16 expressly because of his libertarian bona fides.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 07, 2014 01:19 PM (FqZ/E)

302 Soona's new Russian bride?
http://youtu.be/AlXpiPfx_lU

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 05:16 PM (J9ECY)

 

 

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You hate me, don't you?

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 01:19 PM (IaanB)

303
Ruddy met Clinton in 2007 at Clinton’s Harlem offices, and they toured Africa together. Ruddy has given substantially to the Clinton Foundation and favored Hillary over Obama in 2008. “I’m already torn by a Hillary Clinton candidacy,” he says. “I actually think she would make a good president.”




Yep, fixed as the 1919 Series.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:20 PM (kdS6q)

304 ot - I guess Rand Paul had the most listeners. Standing room only - only one to fill the venue; and standing ovation. The young love him. The two hippest Senators (serious oxymoron) are TEA party Republicans.

Posted by: fluffy at March 07, 2014 01:20 PM (Ua6T/)

305 Yes, it's the BOB DOLE NETWORK.
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He would be hard to beat...

Posted by: Liddy Dole at March 07, 2014 01:20 PM (P3U0f)

306 Odd, I just had a talk with a left leaning school teacher a few months back who said "common core is the suck"* I don't find that surprising at all. CC is a Powerpoint presentation, bullet points to cover. The teacher has to fill in the blanks, and still create a lesson plan from the bullet points. So any parent outraged over a teacher can march into the principal, demand to see the appropriate CC 'over view' then demand to see the teachers lesson plan. 'Plausible deniability' flies out the window with CC.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at March 07, 2014 01:20 PM (CnA98)

307 "There are people who like it? Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 05:15 PM (hq5sb)" Sadly, yes. There were plenty in that discussion who didn't, but in addition to the people who were full-throated supporters, there were some that resigned themselves to "well, we have to try something different." And they're supposedly emphasizing critical thinking in our university system these days.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:20 PM (gBnkX)

308 Look, if we're going to have a conservative women's show, the obvious hosts are me and MWR. 


I mean *obviously*.  

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 07, 2014 01:20 PM (Gk3SS)

309 Hillary 2016 : Because 8 years of Obama wasn't enough to completely destroy America.

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 01:21 PM (zqvg6)

310 Laura Ingraham's audience is small compared to Rush/Hannity. She gets 3.25M. Tied for 7th, though. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 05:15 PM (ZPrif) Yep. She's one of the very few women (the other two farther down the list, I do not know if they are conservative talkers). Laura is unique. And, she's good. She gets good heavy hitters on her show. One thing she does do, is talk about family a lot, too. Number 7 is pretty awesome. She's behind Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc. Really big hitters. As I recall, she had to move shows. Don't know if that hit her numbers.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 01:21 PM (IXrOn)

311 Hillary 2016 : Because 8 years of Obama wasn't enough to completely destroy America.
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Hillary 2016

Because free shit ain't free...enough.

Posted by: Hillary '16 at March 07, 2014 01:22 PM (P3U0f)

312 They have more than half of the votes and all of the woo woo. Better get used to it. Posted by: navybrat at March 07, 2014 05:10 PM (AW7Gr) ------- You owe me a monitor!

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 07, 2014 01:22 PM (RQDhf)

313 291 >>>Someone else may have mentioned it already, but it's right behind the G spot.<<< Wrong. Try again. Posted by: Fritz at March 07, 2014 05:17 PM (UzPAd) I tried and I tried, and finally my wife told me I found it and to stop trying.

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 07, 2014 01:22 PM (8MjqI)

314 "I still think hitlery will win, but Rand Paul is the best choice for a national candidate in '16 expressly because of his libertarian bona fides."

He would be the best choice of the bunch to articulate limited government and free market views. Win or lose I'd rather go out preaching that. If the people reject, they reject it.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 07, 2014 01:22 PM (IV4od)

315 So Newsmax is going to roll out CNN II? brilliant....

Posted by: WVinMN at March 07, 2014 01:22 PM (4Pleu)

316 I got into a (mostly respectful) argument on FB with a circle of educators from my friends list on the subject of CC a few weeks ago. The level of entitlement of some educators is amazing. I got a few "We're teaching it, so live with it" and "It's for the children, how could you disagree with it?" types of arguments. They were shocked, SHOCKED that someone could possibly have any legitimate criticisms of this program. Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 05:14 PM (gBnkX) What I want to know is why people don't box them in the ears every time some educator thinks about creating a "New" program. Do you notice that they are always trying to "improve" education, and it is usually some sort of theoretical crap they've come up with like "sight guess" reading? As far as i'm concerned, they haven't even matched the teaching performance of the 1950s, let alone improved it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 01:22 PM (bb5+k)

317 The demographics on talk radio must skew older.Is the audience dying off?

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 05:18 PM (zqvg6)

 

 

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Not necessarily.  Rush has tapped a brand new audience with his  Rush Revere  children's books.  He's also popular with married women, young and old.  His  audience demographics are solid throughout the spectrum.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 01:23 PM (IaanB)

318 "He killed 13 men in duels."

And the WAY he did it was remarkable. He let his opponents fire first thinking they would miss, and they usually did.

Posted by: navybrat at March 07, 2014 01:23 PM (AW7Gr)

319
>>>it's right behind the G spot.<<<

Wrong. Try again.
Posted by: Fritz




In the Conservatory?  With Col. Mustard?



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:23 PM (kdS6q)

320 The high light of AlextheChick's show will be "Who Gets Eaten by a Raptor." segment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 01:23 PM (J9ECY)

321 Fox doesn't really win any hearts and minds, and that's kind of a problem.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:23 PM (9JPz+)

322 I was going to state it was "Fox" with an emphasis on the vagina.

But then I realized, all of Fox's major shows are hosted by VJJ's.  Including O'Reilly.

Posted by: Marcus T. Tired of the Mendacious Tripe at March 07, 2014 01:23 PM (ztpgc)

323 Rand Paul is a fraud. He wants state law charged so he can keep his precious political seat in the Senate when he loses the 2016 race.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at March 07, 2014 01:23 PM (dZGNV)

324 And Soona why do you accuse me of that baseless charge??

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (J9ECY)

325 I still think hitlery will win, but Rand Paul is the best choice for a national candidate in '16 expressly because of his libertarian bona fides. Nope. He's done a good job of hiding his Inner Crazy, but trusting him with the safety and security of the US and the stability of the free world? Not seeing it.

Posted by: Mehgan McCain at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (SY2Kh)

326 The concept of school boards and teachers being responsive to the community is the biggest pile of garbage that has ever been foisted on the public. No shit. People who think that either A) don't have kids in the public school system, or B) don't take an active interest in their child's education if they're in that system. Educators get their little certificate and think that because they have this title of "professional" that they're immune from criticism.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (gBnkX)

327 Right out of the Bible. Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 05:16 PM (IaanB) Not really familiar with that being in the Bible, do you have a cite?

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (bb5+k)

328 oops, format fail

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (gBnkX)

329 Fucking sock again

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (SY2Kh)

330 And it doesn't really try to either, and that's not good.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (9JPz+)

331 308 Look, if we're going to have a conservative women's show, the obvious hosts are me and MWR. I mean *obviously*. Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 07, 2014 05:20 PM (Gk3SS) Absolutely. We'd all watch. The big question is whether the rest of the world is ready for trampolines, stompy boots, and face sized spiders.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 07, 2014 01:24 PM (oFCZn)

332 I don't think Kasparov is a Lefty. Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 1h Thank you! Yes, cannot have a free world without free markets! Moral strength + economic strength is the right combination. @SteveForbesCEO Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 1h I disagree; there is an important connection between free markets & individual freedom & a morality defined by universal human rights. Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 1h Fall of Iron Curtain was economics and human spirit. USSR was morally and financially bankrupted by Reagan. US losing its edge in both now. Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 17h Plus, being on MSNBC is a chance to encourage Dems to remember they are party of Truman & Kennedy, who believed freedom mattered for all. Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 18h Surprisingly, I do feel at home at MSNBC. Listening to people talk about the glories of socialism, singing the Soviet anthem. Like old days! Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 17h Ok, ok, was just a joke! I have been impressed with their Daily Rundown's coverage of Ukraine & am happy to do the show tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:25 PM (ZPrif)

333 As far as i'm concerned, they haven't even matched the teaching performance of the 1950s, let alone improved it.
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No one gets rewarded for producing better educated children.

However, if you do produce a system you can't get to be broadly adopted that is a different story.

Since that is the reward structure, that is what the American educational system produces.

If you paid teachers based on the success of their students the problem would quickly resolve itself.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 01:25 PM (P3U0f)

334 As I recall, she had to move shows. Don't know if that hit her numbers.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 05:21 PM (IXrOn)



Laura switches networks a lot compared to other talkers; I think it's for moar money.  I run hot and cold on her; she gets too many squishes on for interviews but her smackdown of Will for his immigration crock was off the charts.  Plus she gets Tammy Bruce on sporadically.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 07, 2014 01:25 PM (NI2j4)

335 Absolutely. We'd all watch. The big question is whether the rest of the world is ready for trampolines, stompy boots, and face sized spiders. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 07, 2014 05:24 PM (oFCZn)


Look!  It's the first winner of Who Gets Eaten By A Raptor!

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 07, 2014 01:26 PM (Gk3SS)

336 It's best to emulate the Leftist networks as the Leftist networks are good at what they do whereas Fox isn't.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:26 PM (9JPz+)

337 Newsmax Plans a "Kinder, Gentler" Right-Leaning Television Alternative to Fox And then I will buy it.

Posted by: Soros at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (BmmBm)

338 * twich* *twich*. writhing on the floor, muttering, 'Must have an ATC fix...'. Must have an ATC fix'. *snort * *spit*

Posted by: eye tie at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (bvqC9)

339 Absolutely. We'd all watch. The big question is whether the rest of the world is ready for trampolines, stompy boots, and face sized spiders.
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I'd say yes.

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (P3U0f)

340

Heh, I think a hard right leaning channel would blow them all out of the waterÂ…..

Sponsors: Mossberg Shotguns, Jack Link and Hooter'sÂ….

 

Heh.  Beck's TV ads are from Cheaper than Dirt, Lenny's Glock Store and Henry Repeating Arms.  He also airs gun shows.

 

Re wimmins, Dana Loesch is already on The Blaze staff.  Her show is on right now as a matter of fact. 

 

Beck's TV show is WELL worth the $5/month subscription I pay to watch it on ROKU.  (I got to keep the low rate 'cause I subscribed from the get-go.)  In the past couple weeks he has interviewed the Google guys,  Malcolm Gladwell and one of the authors of "Disinformation." 

 

Ex-FOXian Laurie Dhue does all the evening news cut-ins between his show, a roundtable news panel of younger commentators, and Wilkow. 

 

Every Wednesday evening Laurie Dhue hosts the Blaze version of 60 Minutes (For the Record), and ex-CIA analyst Buck Sexton just started a new investigative show.  The first one was on the outrageous nationwide police "practice" of civil forfeiture, AKA legalized extortion.

Posted by: RushBabe at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (hrIP5)

341 Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 18h After today on WSJ Opinion Journal, Fox News HQ (@ANHQDC) & @RealNewsBlazeTV, I will be fair & balanced & be on @dailyrundown w @chucktodd! Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 Mar 6 Thanks for all the support & debate on my appearances on Fox News & WSJ Opinion Journal. @RealNewsBlazeTV tonight. Crazy schedule! Garry Kasparov ‏@Kasparov63 59m Russia is on UN Human Rights Council now so all is ok! China & Venezuala too. RT @aphex5: Whats your opinion on UN's role in all this?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (ZPrif)

342 And on CNN they are going to have a series about death row inmates directed by Robert Redford and narrated by Susan Sarandon.

Oh boy...  where to start on the wrongness?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (J9ECY)

343 So, a Conservative CNN would be a good idea. But more professional.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (9JPz+)

344 Don't know about conservative news, but who has access to the viewer numbers for me-tv on cable?

75% of what is on there is 1950-60's family programming.
Shows with strong families, and fathers who are not idiots.
Westerns with guns, dead people and a moral to every story.

Shows where right is right, and wrong is never right.

Just curious what we could glean from those numbers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 07, 2014 01:27 PM (wMsMv)

345 Next up. Zero Hedge financial channel to compete with Fox Business.

Posted by: YIKES! at March 07, 2014 01:28 PM (mETGQ)

346 296 The demographics on talk radio must skew older.Is the audience dying off? Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 05:18 PM (zqvg6) __________ Older doesn't mean dead. I'd guess the median age of a talk radio listener is 50. Is that higher than the median age of someone watching some show on MTV? Sure. But it doesn't mean they're about to kick the bucket either.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 01:28 PM (0LHZx)

347
Rand Paul is a fraud. He wants state law charged so he can keep his precious political seat in the Senate when he loses the 2016 race.
Posted by: whatmeworry?




The "LBJ Law" allowing just that has been around since 1959.  Last used by Benson in '88.

Was not aware it had been altered.  Gotta cite?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:28 PM (kdS6q)

348 "As far as i'm concerned, they haven't even matched the teaching performance of the 1950s, let alone improved it." If you ever want to watch them stare at you with mouth agape, suggest that we take a look at how we create educators instead of lesson plans.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:28 PM (gBnkX)

349

Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 04:44 PM (oMKp3)


Awesome, mama. Truer than true.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 07, 2014 01:29 PM (4/o9U)

350 Wrong. Try again.

Posted by: Fritz at March 07, 2014 05:17 PM (UzPAd)



It's in the back of the throat, right?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 07, 2014 01:29 PM (lr3d7)

351 Just curious what we could glean from those numbers.
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That destroying social conservationism is the only way to get free of the IRS man!

Posted by: The Libertarian Party at March 07, 2014 01:29 PM (P3U0f)

352 I have got to stay off of cabelas website.

Posted by: Adam at March 07, 2014 01:30 PM (Aif/5)

353 308 Look, if we're going to have a conservative women's show, the obvious hosts are me and MWR. I mean *obviously*. Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 07, 2014 05:20 PM (Gk3SS) ------ We have a Winner! Close the thread.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 07, 2014 01:30 PM (V40IZ)

354 The age of cruiseship passengers skews old, too -- oh, no the entire market will die off!! Young people don't watch news. Too busy having friends and dating and enjoying the awesome parts of life. All news shows skew old and male NPR skews old and male, too.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:30 PM (ZPrif)

355 Not really familiar with that being in the Bible, do you have a cite?


Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 05:24 PM (bb5+k)

 

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Not off the top of my head, but my guess would be Proverbs.  I remember a serman when I was a kid about settling quarrels with your neighbors before  it gets to the authorities.  I remember it  because that's what I've been trying to practice.  Saves a lot on  legal fees that way.

 

The other parts  (stealing, etc.) are from the Commandments. 

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 01:31 PM (IaanB)

356 Duck Dynasty Channel.

Phil as head anchorperson on the evening news.

Uncle Sy can give world political commentary.

And the girls can even do a cooking show.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 07, 2014 01:31 PM (wMsMv)

357 If you paid teachers based on the success of their students the problem would quickly resolve itself. Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 05:25 PM (P3U0f) In engineering, we call that "negative feedback", and no system is stable or functional without it. Obviously we don't have enough of that in our educational system.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 07, 2014 01:31 PM (bb5+k)

358 Not necessarily. Rush has tapped a brand new audience with his Rush Revere children's books. He's also popular with married women, young and old. His audience demographics are solid throughout the spectrum. Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 05:23 PM (IaanB) Evidently he is up for some children's book award. I've not seen his books. No clue what they are even about.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 01:31 PM (IXrOn)

359 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 05:25 PM (ZPrif) Kaspy must've come around to it since last I kept up with his politics because he at least used to be a fan of State power.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:31 PM (gBnkX)

360 USA TodaySen. Rand Paul reportedly is hedging his bets on his political future. Paul, a Kentucky Republican who is thinking about running for president in 2016, has asked the leader of the state Senate for help with a Kentucky law so that he might run for the White House and a second U.S. Senate term simultaneously. “Yes, I am working on clarifying an ambiguous state law that Rand Paul believes is unconstitutional if it is interpreted to bar running for re-election to the Senate and for president at the same time,” Kentucky Senate Majority Leader Damon Thayer told The Washington Times.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at March 07, 2014 01:31 PM (dZGNV)

361 The public schools in our Akron suburban town are actually pretty good. They have been run by catholics for many, many years, although the community itself is only about 25% Catholic. And, yes, there is a teachers union but it is not affiliated with NEA.

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 07, 2014 01:32 PM (8MjqI)

362 And no matter what, if your demo is old, everyone will be old eventually....you have a never ending supply of potential customers/viewers.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 01:32 PM (0LHZx)

363 I think the reason we don't have conservative women-only shows is because that whole idea that women need to respond differently to current events, that is a liberal notion. When I watch tv, I also don't sit around counting how many of this color and how many of those sex are represented and is it equitable. It doesn't occur to me to look at it that way.

Posted by: lauraw at March 07, 2014 01:32 PM (yGblt)

364 CNN doesn't just offer a "version of the truth." It offers "the truth." And if you don't like it, it's because you're retarded. That's the correct approach. "Fair and balanced and stigmatized" doesn't really cut it.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:33 PM (9JPz+)

365 Leftards lives are their politics. It's easy to make their shows about anything become liberal, because it's all they think about. Their politics defines them. They are a collective of fucking idiots.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 07, 2014 01:33 PM (4/o9U)

366 Didn't Newsmax have an edition in dead-tree magazine format awhile back? Coulda sworn I've seen one. Wasn't too impressed at the time.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 07, 2014 01:33 PM (V4CBV)

367 Posted by: lauraw at March 07, 2014 05:32 PM (yGblt) You eloquently expressed what I could not.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 07, 2014 01:33 PM (oMKp3)

368 And Soona why do you accuse me of that baseless charge??

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 05:24 PM (J9ECY)

 

 

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'Cause that's a man, baby.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 01:34 PM (IaanB)

369 John Schindler ‏@20committee Worried yet? Putin's spox Peskov cites "deadly danger" to Russians in #Ukraine: "no, Russia can't just look on, and it won't" - Interfax

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:34 PM (ZPrif)

370 John Schindler ‏@20committee No way! Way! / RT @MaxAbrahms For first time, Kremlin signals it will annex Crimea (NYT): http://nyti.ms/1qeiGt0

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:34 PM (ZPrif)

371 If you paid teachers based on the success of their students the problem would quickly resolve itself. Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 05:25 PM (P3U0f) __________ That wouldn't be fair either. There are plenty of good teachers who still have dolts for students. Take a 6th grade teacher who has 30 kids that can't read. What can he/she do? Nothing. It's too late. So will you penalize her for the fact the system allowed her students to complete 5 grades and barely recite the alphabet?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 01:35 PM (0LHZx)

372 Many women get all their news from hard left skewing women's magazines and The View.Obviously,this does not apply to moronettes.

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2014 01:35 PM (zqvg6)

373
Surprised it took this long.  The conservative market or at least less lefty market is pretty big.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 07, 2014 01:35 PM (gorVZ)

374 Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 05:31 PM (gBnkX) I think his run ins with state power have adjusted his outlook.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:35 PM (hq5sb)

375 "368 And Soona why do you accuse me of that baseless charge?? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 07, 2014 05:24 PM (J9ECY) --------------------------------------------- 'Cause that's a man, baby. Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 05:34 PM (IaanB)" I'm not going to bother scrolling up. What's this about?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:35 PM (9JPz+)

376 John Schindler ‏@20committee Russia's about to annex Crimea & Putin's only getting started. Like to know what MSM won't tell you? Here ya go... http://20committee.com/2014/03/07/understanding-the-crimea-crisis/

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 01:36 PM (ZPrif)

377 >>>I tried and I tried, and finally my wife told me I found it and to stop trying.<<<

I always tell'em we'll try again after my nap.

Posted by: Fritz at March 07, 2014 01:36 PM (UzPAd)

378 I'd like to see more John Stossel-esque stuff. What he does is the sort of thing that can win over hearts and minds, and can be effective even if done in a non-partisan way.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 07, 2014 01:37 PM (SY2Kh)

379 ot - another chilling JEF admin bullying story; except it's their own they are eating ‘Suffocating pressure’: Former ThinkProgress writer describes White House ‘censorship’ ... In a post titled, ”How Working in Washington Taught Me We’re All A Little Like RT America,” Jilani explained how the White House frequently played the part of the Kremlin — leaning on management to push their writers in a particular direction, and punishing them if they strayed from the party line. http://tinyurl.com/m6s87to and, they keep putting up with it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 01:37 PM (IXrOn)

380 I'm not going to bother scrolling up. What's this about?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 05:35 PM (9JPz+)

 

 

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Anna's trying to set me up with  a Russian  tranny.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2014 01:38 PM (IaanB)

381 "369 John Schindler ‏@20committee Worried yet? Putin's spox Peskov cites "deadly danger" to Russians in #Ukraine: "no, Russia can't just look on, and it won't" - Interfax Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 05:34 PM (ZPrif)" The Ukrainians are nationalistic. The Russians are imperialistic. Nationalists are actually more blood thirsty.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:38 PM (9JPz+)

382
Argh -- Friday Fade.  Forgot Rand is from Kentucky.  "Paul" and "Texas" synapses fired in sequence by reflex.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:38 PM (kdS6q)

383 With the internet and blogging, I find that most "news" and opinion shows(which is what the View is) constantly behind the times. Even Rush at times is discussing stuff that I already know, at least he is wise enough to realize that and so tries to discuss it from a different angle. A conservative women's show , meh, five women sitting and discussing their views on stuff that I've already read two days ago on the internet and discussed in the comments section? Or worse, women's stuff. No thanks, I have girlfriends to discuss yeast infections with. I'm more impressed with segments such as Hasselback's new My America. Or this morning on Fox , Anna Kooiman on Made in America had a segment on a steel post manufacturer in Toledo Ohio. These are positive stories with a conservative message(Kooiman made sure to mention that American Posts told her that they are not going to increase staff to over 50 because they cannot afford the Obamacare mandates.) This stuff interests me far more regarding my little TV time than women arguing over which movie star is the most conservative, etc.

Posted by: Jen at March 07, 2014 01:39 PM (3wFh7)

384 John Schindler ‏@20committee Russia's about to annex Crimea & Putin's only getting started. Like to know what MSM won't tell you? Here ya go... http://20committee.com/2014/03/07/understanding-the-crimea-crisis/ Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 05:36 PM (ZPrif) Such a coincidence that Yanukovych - is either dead, or about to be dead isn't it?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 01:39 PM (IXrOn)

385 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2014 05:37 PM (IXrOn) Why the fuck is he complaining TP is a subset of the democrat party.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 07, 2014 01:39 PM (hq5sb)

386 I haven't watched FNC (or any TV besides the Olympics) for quite some time. FNC had become to mainstream for me. I doubt anything much to the right would garner any audience.

Posted by: whoever at March 07, 2014 01:39 PM (pjMym)

387 When I watch tv, I also don't sit around counting how many of this color and how many of those sex are represented and is it equitable. It doesn't occur to me to look at it that way. But you do enjoy the vacuum cleaner and mop ads, right? Those broads always look so very happy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 07, 2014 01:39 PM (SY2Kh)

388 New threadÂ… Juan McCain

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 07, 2014 01:40 PM (HsTG8)

389 "370 John Schindler ‏@20committee No way! Way! / RT @MaxAbrahms For first time, Kremlin signals it will annex Crimea (NYT): http://nyti.ms/1qeiGt0 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 05:34 PM (ZPrif)" Annexing your own land isn't much of an accomplishment. It isn't even imperialism.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:40 PM (9JPz+)

390 Tune in for the dazzling conversation, stay for the Raptors eating the obnoxious guests! Ratings would be through the roof.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 07, 2014 01:40 PM (+hPIb)

391 "That wouldn't be fair either. There are plenty of good teachers who still have dolts for students. Take a 6th grade teacher who has 30 kids that can't read. What can he/she do? Nothing. It's too late" Uh, pretty simple. Make the payment based on progress. Test at the beginning of the year. Test at the end of the year.

Posted by: Lauren at March 07, 2014 01:41 PM (hFL/3)

392
I'm not going to bother scrolling up. What's this about?
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney



A roomful of guys are trying to locate the clitoris.

We've got it narrowed down to the nape of the neck and the fine jewelry case at Tiffany's.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 07, 2014 01:42 PM (kdS6q)

393 "371 If you paid teachers based on the success of their students the problem would quickly resolve itself. Posted by: 18-1 at March 07, 2014 05:25 PM (P3U0f) __________ That wouldn't be fair either. There are plenty of good teachers who still have dolts for students. Take a 6th grade teacher who has 30 kids that can't read. What can he/she do? Nothing. It's too late. So will you penalize her for the fact the system allowed her students to complete 5 grades and barely recite the alphabet? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 07, 2014 05:35 PM (0LHZx)" The Government shouldn't teach children. That's actually a Prussian idea.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:42 PM (9JPz+)

394 Nood

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 07, 2014 01:44 PM (gBnkX)

395 "376 John Schindler ‏@20committee Russia's about to annex Crimea & Putin's only getting started. Like to know what MSM won't tell you? Here ya go... http://20committee.com/2014/03/07/understanding-the-crimea-crisis/ Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 07, 2014 05:36 PM (ZPrif)" Sure. Today the Russian Ukraine. Tomorrow, Lukashenka's Belorussia. And then what? And then he's run out of Russias and/or European countries because they're in NATO. And then he'll have to turn to imperializing the Stans, without annexing them. And that's better than letting the Chinese imperialize/annex them. Or believing that CPSU's diktats are 'the Voice of God.' Or that Russia's future should consist of nothing but Russians being victimized for the crime of having Communism inflicted upon them, or being the only European country not to go Full Fag.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 07, 2014 01:52 PM (9JPz+)

396 I'd like to see an Alton Brown -type run a Libertarian Cooking-Show-Style explanation of "Stuff".

As an uninformed goofball, I thought The Fed was when Paul Volcker came out, (like The Groundhog), and announced six more weeks of higher interest rates.  I didn't care, but Dad told me it was time to open a Savings Account.

It wasn't until I learned what The Federal Reserve actually did, until I asked more questions.  "Common Sense" questions that I ran into because I felt dumb.

-Why are the banks disappearing?
-What is a Credit Union?
-What are the ratios between now and Wilson, FDR, Nixon and Reagan?
-Why does beef cost an Arm and a Leg?

I figured out that there was no "Magic" behind a rue.  Fat + Flour + Cooking = Step One.  Adding liquid = Step Two. 

Step-by-step, I learned about sauces and The Fed. 
-Meat and the economy. 
-Flavor profiles and credit/debt.
-Spices & herbs and Austrians & Keyensians.
-Baking and savings.
-Grilling and selling-short.
...you get it.  These are awkward comparisons, but you get it.

Sometimes, "Thirty-Minute Meals" take an hour.  Take your time.  Rachel Ray and Glenn Beck can be equally annoying.  They both parlayed their "styles" into bigger and better things.

In the end, you're not beaten over the head and you no longer think that something is "Beyond Your Grasp".

Posted by: Slapweasel at March 07, 2014 01:53 PM (lq3Ak)

397 Perhaps Penn Gillette would be a good example of this.  The show "Bullshit" was Introductory Physical Science for the non-political, entertainment-loving, laymen.

Posted by: Slapweasel at March 07, 2014 01:54 PM (lq3Ak)

398 " Why hasn't Fox launched a "View" clone?"

I dunno, I always thought "The Five" was sorta Fox's version of it.

Posted by: cheshirecat at March 07, 2014 01:55 PM (SESZj)

399 82 I mean just suppose (this can't happen) but that they got MKH, Dana Loesch, and Laura Ingraham, plus some random Liberal We Put On For the Hasselbeck "Foil" Role. Posted by: ace at March 07, 2014 04:36 PM (/FnUH

Those women are too busy to do yet another thing, I imagine, but it would be great. Anyone else get the sense that the View has been hurting since Hasslebeck left? Current events gabbing is boring without contrast; that show needs another conservative, hence trotting out awesome guests like MKH and Loech was smart.

A right leaning View would be a perfect  way to sneak attack libs with families, if they stumble across it. Throw out a libertarian/conservative viewpoint, I think they'd agree more than disagree, it would be a good surprise for them. Also showcase a conservative female comedian or two, the anti whoopis and behars. Though according to Adam Carolla women can't be as funny, they could try!

Posted by: LizLem at March 07, 2014 01:59 PM (ijXVY)

400 Did everyone go full Corgi to the next thread?

Posted by: LizLem at March 07, 2014 02:05 PM (ijXVY)

401 ...then again, I haven't slept for forty-eight hours.  My loose correlations are a function of that.  If I don't stop myself from making further commentary on the topic, I may restate and reiterate from here to Kingdom Come.

*Full Stop*

Posted by: Slapweasel at March 07, 2014 02:08 PM (lq3Ak)

402 Yeah, the 5 could be more like the View, sorta. Replace Beckel with a...I dunno, fish? Platypus? and you could have something...
Move Redeye to a spot a broader demo might see?
Hire Leno?
Um...out of ideas.

Posted by: rick at March 07, 2014 02:55 PM (snYrg)

403 Oh, I forgot. The 5 would have to become "The Noon". With less testosterone and more estrogen, if you can imagine.
Never mind. Never work.

Posted by: rick at March 07, 2014 02:57 PM (snYrg)

404 I don't like women's shows and magazines either, but I do like cooking, gardening and smoking hot manly men, plus a little bit of fashion, as long as it's not stupid-looking and modeled by 13 year old anorexic heroin sluts. I got my hair done today, and I usually ignore their magazines, but couldn't keep my mitts off the Town and Country with Scott Eastwood on the cover. The gal doing my hair, said yeah, all the ladies are freaking out about that cover. To get the LIV ladies, have on hot male celebrities who lean right or libertarian.

Posted by: stace at March 07, 2014 03:17 PM (9PXzx)

405 Ever watched The Chew? Nasty show. Particularly this nasty light skinned c*nt with a bad glasses and a jewfro.
Parrots the party line,
 Enamored with Mooche's lunchtime kiddie thang.
She is so fake and artificially bubbly.  I almost shot my TV.
Spare your eyes.

Posted by: Dinah Kanser at March 07, 2014 06:48 PM (PyN8j)

406

Ace... I've said it for years... You are the poop. Best fucking moron blog EVAH.

 

Posted by: drolmorg at March 07, 2014 08:45 PM (R1voE)

407 If you think more versions of The View are a good thing, you might be part of the problem.

Posted by: tsj017 at March 08, 2014 07:35 AM (tIcJF)

408 How you good friend Colin Powell?

Posted by: burt at March 09, 2014 06:01 AM (1+kJ5)

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