March 17, 2014

Of Course: Obama Using March Madness Brackets to Sell Obamacare
— Ace

Obama's dwindling fans are encouraged to fill out their own brackets, in which the "Sweetest 16 Reasons to #GetCovered" will be competing as the best reason to sign up for bad, overpriced insurance.

This latest Trivial Social Media Stunt seems inadequate to the task, given that Democrats are now privately admitting that Obamacare is "political poison."

Even former White House spokesman Robert Gibbs now confesses Democratic hold of the Senate is "definitely, absolutely" in danger.

The Wire says Democrats are having a "midterm freakout."

Posted by: Ace at 12:37 PM | Comments (302)
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1 More cowbell

Posted by: Christopher Walken at March 17, 2014 12:35 PM (Kkt/i)

2 Ow, My Balls! for the win!

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 17, 2014 12:36 PM (ZPrif)

3 Obama and Obamacare will absolutely be assets for democrats in November.

Posted by: Dan Pfiefer at March 17, 2014 12:37 PM (Aif/5)

4 I'm surprised he isn't advertising during kids' programs, urging the Obama Youth to nag their parents into signing up.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 17, 2014 12:38 PM (6H6o8)

5 The D's are freaking out over something that the R's aren't even campaigning on??

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 12:38 PM (xSfiX)

6 You say we can't win with just the 'tard vote. I say we can't not win with just the 'tard vote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick ass lives. Seriously, scro', don't worry.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 17, 2014 12:38 PM (ZPrif)

7 Who could have seen this coming? Cavuto is doing a bracket thing this hour with people tweeting in reasons not to sign up for Obamacare. Pretty funny.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2014 12:38 PM (g1DWB)

8 Pathetic.  As the world burns,   this POS is running a scam.   Nero wasn't this bad.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 17, 2014 12:39 PM (0Jb7F)

9 More pudding, more popcorn!

Posted by: GuyfromNH at March 17, 2014 12:39 PM (kbOju)

10 Something *hic* me and the Pres can agree on *hic hic* -- He likes Sycacuse, and *hic* I too like the Orange *hic*

Happy *hic hic* St. Patty's Day *hic*

Can't wait for *hic* amnesty on Cinco de *hic* mayo.

Posted by: John "Orange Ya Glad I'm Speaker" Boehner at March 17, 2014 12:39 PM (yweJB)

11 Does obamacare cover fat girl orgies? Asking for a friend

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 12:40 PM (StXqh)

12 The Wire says Democrats are having a "midterm freakout." I would be enjoying this except for the coming cannibalism.

Posted by: toby928© at March 17, 2014 12:40 PM (QupBk)

13 >>The D's are freaking out over something that the R's aren't even campaigning on?? You've got to be kidding. This is about the only thing they are campaigning on. The Dems lost a race last week in FL when they put up a woman who lost the governors race by 1% last cycle and she lost to a former lobbyist. Obamacare is going to crush the Dems this fall. Bank on it.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2014 12:40 PM (g1DWB)

14 Would we say the Democrats are "having a cow" or should that wait a few more threads?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 17, 2014 12:40 PM (+XGEJ)

15 More pudding, more popcorn! Posted by: GuyfromNH at March 17, 2014 04:39 PM .........That's for the chubby orgy thread.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2014 12:40 PM (/rlXg)

16 I think he should use BBW butts, smeared with Crisco, to sell Obamacare. But, maybe that's just me.

Posted by: Sir Mix-a-Lot at March 17, 2014 12:41 PM (4s6u1)

17 Bold prediction:
Theirs will be dull, earnest, and obviously based on tired old lies.
Ours will be simultaneously funny and devastating. 

Bonus prediction: Racism!

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 12:41 PM (4nR9/)

18 I made this point last night and was pilloried here for it...

I don't see this as a bad move for Obama. Social media and pop culture works for him. It's how he got elected twice. Will it turn around 2014? No. Might it marginally help get some LIV yuuts to take a look at health insurance options? Probably.

In either case, this "oh my god I can't believe the president is demeaning himself like this" rebuttal from the right is stupid. Obama/Dems are great at marketing. They know their market and they tailor the message to reach that market. Granted they fuck it up sometimes, like Pajama Boy. But for the most part they know what they're doing.

On the other side...we get ORCA.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 12:41 PM (0LHZx)

19 Fiddling while Rome burns.
And we had to pay for the damn fiddles, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2014 12:41 PM (udjuE)

20 Pathetic. As the world burns, this POS is running a scam. Nero wasn't this bad. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 17, 2014 04:39 PM (0Jb7F) Nero was Diogenes compared to this motherfucker

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 17, 2014 12:41 PM (R8hU8)

21 The Wire says Democrats are having a "midterm freakout." Burn baby burn!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2014 12:42 PM (ui1/L)

22 At the end will Obama sing "One Shining Failure"?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Inviisble Pimp Hand at March 17, 2014 12:42 PM (WdbF7)

23 Unless FOX shows Obama misspelling Syracuse a few years back when he was filling out his brackets , I consider that they are covering for Obama just like the rest of them.

Posted by: Yes it sucks at March 17, 2014 12:42 PM (Vf2XA)

24 in response: Obama Scandal Bracket pic.twitter.com/9wMXO83IVs this is brilliant

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 12:42 PM (IXrOn)

25 8 Pathetic. As the world burns, this POS is running a scam. Nero wasn't this bad. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 17, 2014 04:39 PM (0Jb7F) I know, right?

Posted by: Zombie Pelonious at March 17, 2014 12:42 PM (4s6u1)

26 Pelosi swore that people would love ObamaCare.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 17, 2014 12:42 PM (si68n)

27 Sign up for this thing I keep delaying!

Posted by: Picker-in-Chief at March 17, 2014 12:43 PM (FrfNj)

28 >>I don't see this as a bad move for Obama. Social media and pop culture works for him.

You think Russia, Iran, N Korea, etc. care about how hip he is?
They see a feckless leader and are emboldened.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2014 12:43 PM (udjuE)

29 >>I made this point last night and was pilloried here for it... For good reason. You were wrong last night and you are wrong now. Marketing only works when you have a good product as anyone who has ever been successful in marketing will tell you. Obamacare is a disaster and now amount of stupid web shit is going to make people want to buy it.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2014 12:43 PM (g1DWB)

30 11 NCJ LMAO!

Posted by: Alf767 at March 17, 2014 12:44 PM (Lh/vu)

31 I don't see this as a bad move for Obama. Social media and pop culture works for him. It's how he got elected twice. Will it turn around 2014? No. Might it marginally help get some LIV yuuts to take a look at health insurance options? Probably. Until they see the cost......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2014 12:44 PM (ui1/L)

32 The Obamacare debacle isn't over until the fat lady from the last thread sings.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2014 12:44 PM (8ZskC)

33 Marketing only works when you have a good product as anyone who has ever been successful in marketing will tell you.

Ahem.....

Posted by: Pet Rock at March 17, 2014 12:44 PM (4nR9/)

34 Not holding my breath for a repub sweep.  They'll find a way to fuck it up.  Or,  I should say, Rove and the GOPe  will find a way to fuck it up.

Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2014 12:44 PM (0IPQM)

35 Obamacare is a disaster and now amount of stupid web shit is going to make people want to buy it.
Posted by: JackStraw

Nuh uh. I'm gonna buy me three. Just in case.

Posted by: Bruce at March 17, 2014 12:44 PM (igJW1)

36 Now is the time for Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

Drink!

*hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (8ZskC)

37 Did somebody mention The Wire? It's, like, the best television show in television history. You have to watch it. I'm not joking. It changed my life. Too bad Americans are so racist they refused to watch it until it starred white people and was called Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad and The Sopranos are the Elvis of television. Racism, straight up.

Posted by: Every NPR listener in the past decade ... at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (ZPrif)

38 While talking to Ryan Secreast to promote Obamacare he told Ryan that he actually thinks he looks great in jeans. It's still always about him and his delusions. He also said they have enough signups for the program to work.

Posted by: Spring Fever at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (i7KmQ)

39 Did you see him, did you see him?

Posted by: Michelle O at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (e8kgV)

40 Looks like my Cuse is having another all to familiar of late March crash. No Sweet 16 for you! Oh yeah and Obama sucks goat ass.

Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (GXZgZ)

41 You've got to be kidding. This is about the only thing they are campaigning on. The Dems lost a race last week in FL when they put up a woman who lost the governors race by 1% last cycle and she lost to a former lobbyist. A former lobbyist who recently divorced his wife to shack up with a 20-something woman who is fifteen years his junior.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (SY2Kh)

42 Which is why they changed the obamacare rules AGAIN. White House Issues New Obamacare Rule Allowing Insurers To “Modify” Plans To Cut Down On New Round of Cancellation Notices… weaselzippers

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (IXrOn)

43 Ted Cruz burned ROME!!!111!!!!!eLeBinTY!!!! Incendiary!!! My lyre! I feel a song coming on....

Posted by: Barquius Minimus composing a song at March 17, 2014 12:45 PM (4s6u1)

44 Not holding my breath for a repub sweep. They'll find a way to fuck it up. Or, I should say, Rove and the GOPe will find a way to fuck it up.

Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2014 04:44 PM (0IPQM)


I would worry about you if you thought otherwise!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 17, 2014 12:46 PM (o3MSL)

45 Some dumb fuck dem senator from CT on CNN ( yeah yeah it was on) just said how giving the ukrainians MREs is important help to counter Russia? Is he fucking serious?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 12:46 PM (nzKvP)

46 Duh!1 is an idiot.
At best.
Can't mention it enough.
So are his enablers....

Posted by: backhoe at March 17, 2014 12:46 PM (ULH4o)

47 A former lobbyist who recently divorced his wife to shack up with a 20-something woman who is fifteen years his junior. Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 17, 2014 04:45 PM (SY2Kh) The guy is a honorary moron

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 17, 2014 12:46 PM (R8hU8)

48 I don't see this as a bad move for Obama. Social media and pop culture works for him. It's how he got elected twice. Will it turn around 2014? No. Might it marginally help get some LIV yuuts to take a look at health insurance options? Probably.

The only ones who signed up were the ones who really wanted some free stuff (the sick and poor), or had to because OCare cancelled their insurance.  Just who do you think hasn't heard of this by now but will suddenly decide it's a great idea?

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 12:47 PM (4nR9/)

49 18 I made this point last night and was pilloried here for it... So you came back for seconds? Good for you!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 17, 2014 12:47 PM (HsTG8)

50 Obamacare is going to crush the Dems this fall. Bank on it. From you fingers to God's Smartphone.

Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2014 12:47 PM (GXZgZ)

51 As far as I can see more people have lost their insurance than have signed up for it and that "success" has cost us over 2 trillion dollars and broken system.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 12:47 PM (nzKvP)

52 Please Mr. President don't pick us.

Posted by: Wichita State at March 17, 2014 12:47 PM (88xKn)

53 I'm so thankful Florida State won't be a part of this.

Posted by: Mike at March 17, 2014 12:47 PM (r/L31)

54 The only ones who signed up were the ones who really wanted some free stuff (the sick and poor), or had to because OCare cancelled their insurance. Just who do you think hasn't heard of this by now but will suddenly decide it's a great idea?


Sit down right here an have a hot cup of yummy nummy cocoa with me.

Posted by: Pajama Boy at March 17, 2014 12:48 PM (8ZskC)

55 And by the way these "ads" are payed for WITH OUR FUCKIN MONEY

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 12:48 PM (nzKvP)

56 Obama/Dems are great at marketing.

That's why Obamacare is polling so well. Marketing!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (+lsX1)

57 He also said they have enough signups for the program to work.

To which the obvious reply would be: "so you're saying you absolutely will not need taxpayer money to bail out the insurance companies?"

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (4nR9/)

58 People buy shitty products all the time because of bad marketing, I'm actually shocked it took this long for them to go full marketing blitz, but now I'm seeing get covered ads at all times of the day.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Inviisble Pimp Hand at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (WdbF7)

59 >>>Which is why they changed the obamacare rules AGAIN.
White House Issues New Obamacare Rule Allowing Insurers To “Modify” Plans To Cut Down On New Round of Cancellation Notices…
weaselzippers
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 04:45 PM (IXrOn)<<<



If you like the original Obamacare law, you can keep the original Obamacare law.

Posted by: SCOAMF at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (yweJB)

60

>>>Even former White House spokesman Robert Gibbs now confesses Democratic hold of the Senate is "definitely, absolutely" in danger.

 

Everything is so DOOM its hard to be happy about this. Its like we're hearing from Br'er Dems about briarpatches

Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Fist at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (3ZtZW)

61 This is one of my favorite times of year. I love March Madness with an unholy glee because it's hours and hours and hours of basketball joy and a way to escape politics. Yeah. I most humbly submit that those who are in a position of most high confidence with President Obama, the Leader of the Free World, the titular head of the Executive branch of the American system of governance, take a long hard look in the mirror and consider, with deep and abiding contemplation, all of the various and sundry ways in which members of Mellivora capensis shall engage in fornication with them.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (VtjlW)

62 They still don't understand why those up to 26 years old aren't signing up. Too stupid for words.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (IXrOn)

63 I'm not into big, fat womyn. But I did see a six-slice toaster the other day. Oooooohhhhhhh

Posted by: Ghost of hallelujah at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (yrHcy)

64 "Obama/Dems are great at marketing."

Reality is better.

Posted by: flounder at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (Kkt/i)

65 I really wish that pols, especially the POTUS, would stay away from pop culture. First, I get tired of them constantly intruding on things that should be apolitical and fun. Second, they should at least want to give the APPEARANCE of being serious. But I suppose I am being old and cranky. We do live in a Kardashian world and most people today WANT a Kardashian preezy.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 17, 2014 12:49 PM (dfYL9)

66 People forget that Ow, My Balls was a campaign ad. Totally worked for the 'tard vote.

Posted by: Idiocracy at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (ZPrif)

67 8 I made this point last night and was pilloried here for it...


AoHSQ hasn't used pillories form months, except when someone volunteers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (8ZskC)

68 You're wrong, moo moo. People are sick to death of hearing about Obamacare. It's being shoved down our throats at every turn. The gas station by my house has freaking Obamacare billboards at the pump. Invading people's March Madness with this crap will only annoy them and tun them off the product even more.

Posted by: Lauren at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (hFL/3)

69 Sounds like something that's screaming for those on the Right to hijack it, like the hashtags on twitter.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (SKSM5)

70 The between two ferns thing blew up social media, but only got 19K links through to the broken website. That's terrible. Even better/worse, that has been the biggest lead-in the site has had. These GIFs will be mocked by the young right and embarrassingly ignored by the young left.

Posted by: AMDG at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (eFytx)

71 Poll sez -- 1/3 of uninsured say they have no intention to sign up for 404Care
 
Oh, and TFG now claims that the 4.2 million claimed signups is enough to make 404Care sustainable. Even though the number is probably much less that have actually paid, and though their original goal was 7 million, and though the 18-34 demographic is sadly lacking...
 
Success!

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (cHZB7)

72 46 Some dumb fuck dem senator from CT on CNN ( yeah yeah it was on) just said how giving the ukrainians MREs is important help to counter Russia? Is he fucking serious? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 04:46 PM (nzKvP) Heh! Thanks for the gumball Popeye, now where do I go to see Putinious Maximus, our new God!!!

Posted by: Ukraine at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (4s6u1)

73
She's a super freak, super freak
She's super-freaky, yow
Temptations sing!
Ohhhhh
Super freak, super freak
That girl's a super freak
Ohhhhh

Posted by: Rick James at March 17, 2014 12:50 PM (e8kgV)

74 If you fill out a perfect bracket you get free prostate exams for life (limit 1/day).

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (+lsX1)

75 Obamacare is now officially the Windows 8 of government programs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (8ZskC)

76 What difference does it make. I think a good constitutional amendment (one that state governments should have too) is to prohibit the government from advertising anything. If the government has to advertise any sort of "service" they probably shouldn't be providing it. I say this because I saw the horrific get covered ad featuring Alonzo Mourning.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (gmeXX)

77 I most humbly submit that those who are in a position of most high confidence with President Obama, the Leader of the Free World, the titular head of the Executive branch of the American system of governance, take a long hard look in the mirror and consider, with deep and abiding contemplation, all of the various and sundry ways in which members of Mellivora capensis shall engage in fornication with them. I didn't get that but I know it kicked ass.

Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (GXZgZ)

78 As far as I can see more people have lost their insurance than have signed up for it and that "success" has cost us over 2 trillion dollars and broken system.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 04:47 PM (nzKvP)


Plus, no one, including Obama himself, actually knows what the most current "regulatory instantiation of the ACA" is, and the future ripples in both real medical care and medical insurance cannot even begin to be comprehended yet.



Another win for the progressive and historic 52%!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (o3MSL)

79 This guy is a colossal dumbfuck but his narcissism and solipsism prevents him from seeing what most already know. He is the LIP - low info president.

Posted by: Titanium at March 17, 2014 12:51 PM (C59Fk)

80 OT: Am I the only person freaked out by the pic of the monkey orchid?

I'm pretty sure it's racist.

Posted by: shibumi at March 17, 2014 12:52 PM (25HWz)

81 If you win, you get obamacare for free.* *yeah, liv's, it never was. In fact it was more than before...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 12:52 PM (IXrOn)

82 I won't look but if anyone has a list of the dumb fuck athletes and coaches who are sucking obama's flaccid dick, I'd like the list

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 12:52 PM (nzKvP)

83 I am sure someone has mentioned Fox is spoofing him now.

Posted by: John Wayne Gacy at March 17, 2014 12:53 PM (0FSuD)

84 People buy shitty products all the time because of bad marketing, But it's shit they want. 404Care is the Ronco of healthcare.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2014 12:53 PM (ui1/L)

85 The guy is a honorary moron Oh, and I forgot- not only did he shack up with this twenty-something chick, she joined him at campaign events. Dude couldn't be more midlife-crisis if he traded in his campaign bus in for a red Porsche. It's like his campaign slogan was "Obamacare sucks, but I'm tapping that ass! Vote Jolly!". And it worked

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 17, 2014 12:53 PM (SY2Kh)

86 There will be no safe Dem Senate races this year.  Including Illinois.

Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2014 12:53 PM (JBggj)

87

>>>Obamacare is a disaster and now amount of stupid web shit is going to make people want to buy it.

 

Tyhis crap isn't meant to make you buy it, its meant to make you, specifically, pissed off. Bamster loves poking his middle finger at us - or haven't you noticed? And his voters love him for it. Its not supposed to sell anything, its to bring his approval numbers up.

Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Fist at March 17, 2014 12:53 PM (3ZtZW)

88 75 If you fill out a perfect bracket you get free prostate exams for life (limit 1/day).

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 17, 2014 04:51 PM (+lsX1)


While supplies last.

Posted by: ACA IPAB (A/K/A "Death Panel") at March 17, 2014 12:54 PM (Kkt/i)

89 11 Does obamacare cover fat girl orgies? Asking for a friend Only if Moochie gets to join in.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 17, 2014 12:54 PM (0FSuD)

90 And it worked

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 17, 2014 04:53 PM (SY2Kh)


Definitely a model for the campaigns of 2014 and 2016!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 17, 2014 12:54 PM (o3MSL)

91 Why would anyone sign up for healthcare insurance. They could offer it at $1. Bottom line, is you can save the $1 and sign up when you need it.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 12:54 PM (gmeXX)

92 Obamacare...meh. I agree with the poster who said the Rs will figure out a way to fuck up the midterms. Missing Malaysian plane...been talked to death. We'll know about it when THEY decide to tell us about it. U Crimea--see Czechoslovakia and Austria, circa 1938. What we need is an Oscar Pistorius thread.

Posted by: Czar Peter at March 17, 2014 12:54 PM (n8vNn)

93 OT: Am I the only person freaked out by the pic of the monkey orchid? I'm just pretending it doesn't exist so no nightmares.

Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2014 12:55 PM (GXZgZ)

94 "Obamacare is going to crush the Dems this fall. Bank on it."

Not banking on anything, thanks. Still wincing from the burns from last time.

I'll refrain from posting the list of Senate seats that I had figured to be absolute slam dunk certain victories for the GOP in 2012. It was a long list. Might even have had Dingy Harry Reid demoted to Senate Minority Leader in the most optimistic scenarios. Wouldn't that have been nice?

And then? Then we had that idiot Limbaugh attacking Sandra Fluke instead of correctly ignoring her. Then Akin. Then Mourdock.

Then the Democratic identity politics messaging machine got cranked up to eleven with WAR ON WIMMENZ, pitched to the "Julia" vote, quoting Rush and Akin and Mourdock.

Then more than 2/3s of the Julias in the country voted Democratic, and that was that. Not only for the Senate seats I thought were sure things, but also for Mitt Romney.

So how confident am I that fuckwit Republican candidates won't run their mouths again in damaging ways? Especially with regard to Julia issues? I have no confidence whatsoever.

It was only a few days ago that a GOP officeholder responded sarcastically to a comment about battered women by saying, "I still eat mine plain."

FFS! Was nothing learned from the 2012 disaster? Apparently not. This shit matters. It's the fuel on which the Democrats have repeatedly and successfully supercharged their messaging machine.

That guy needs to go for a Fredo-style boat ride out on the lake with Al Neri.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2014 12:55 PM (gqT4g)

95 Just an aside I've fighting with some libs on FB about St Paddy's Day and the gays. I called it a sexual preference and some asshole tried to correct me and say it is an "orientation"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 12:55 PM (nzKvP)

96 Final Four. Obamacare, Benghazi, IRS, Fast and furious.

Posted by: redenzo at March 17, 2014 12:55 PM (WCnJW)

97 And his voters love him for it. Its not supposed to sell anything, its to bring his approval numbers up.

That's working great! Marketing!!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 17, 2014 12:55 PM (+lsX1)

98 Yeah, marketing Obamacare will make it more popular.

"Get covered before the March 31 deadline."

Deadline, what deadline?  I don't like the sound of that.

"If you're not covered by March 31 you will be required to pay a fine."

Deadline?!?  Fine?!?  What'll that asshole think of next!?!

"Have you seen Obama's NCAA Tournament Bracket comprised of reasons to sign up?"

Oh FFS...

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 17, 2014 12:55 PM (kUgpq)

99
Did the site mention that one reason is because the federal government can make you by something you don't wont because it's the law?

Posted by: YIKES! at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (mETGQ)

100 #GetCovered We used to have good coverage.

Posted by: Poland and the Ukraine at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (FcR7P)

101 71 The between two ferns thing blew up social media, but only got 19K links through to the broken website. That's terrible. Even better/worse, that has been the biggest lead-in the site has had. Posted by: AMDG at March 17, 2014 04:50 PM (eFytx) ___________ Where do you get 19,000? Traffic was up double digits the day it was released and the following day. That's a lot more than 19K.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (0LHZx)

102 46 Some dumb fuck dem senator from CT on CNN ( yeah yeah it was on) just said how giving the ukrainians MREs is important help to counter Russia? Is he fucking serious? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 04:46 PM (nzKvP) ************ wtf? Constipation for the win?

Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (RJMhd)

103

More than two and half more years.  No matter how many repubs we send to congress in 2014, Dear Leader has the power now.  The dem congress gave it to him.  And his court appointments uphold it.  And our schools are still teaching it.

 

I wonder how bad WWIII will really be.

Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (0IPQM)

104 I didn't get that but I know it kicked ass. Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2014 04:51 PM (GXZgZ) Hint: Mellivora capensis is the honey badger.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (VtjlW)

105 Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 17, 2014 04:53 PM
===
Forget it, Hollowpoint. It's Florida.

Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (JBggj)

106 Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 17, 2014 04:55 PM (kUgpq FREE BIRTH CONTOL (after you pay $300/month in premiums.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (a8eFL)

107 Reason 16 to get Obamacare, a fun filled weekend with Clark Kellog, Obama's butt boy back up to Reggie Love.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (HVff2)

108

18 I made this point last night and was pilloried here for it...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 04:41 PM (0LHZx)

I'd rather be pilloried than hillaried.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at March 17, 2014 12:56 PM (bbivj)

109 Definitely a model for the campaigns of 2014 and 2016! ---- Here's my model: REPEAL OBAMACARE* * You cannot nominate someone who implemented Obamacare, parts of Obamacare, or predecessor programs to Obamacare.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 12:57 PM (gmeXX)

110 Final Four. Obamacare, Benghazi, IRS, Fast and furious. Posted by: redenzo at March 17, 2014 04:55 PM (WCnJW) via David Limbaugh David Limbaugh ‏@DavidLimbaugh 17h Good point. Should be added RT @unclemeat80: You forgot Fast and Furious RT @DavidLimbaugh It doesnÂ’t hurt to dream. pic.twitter.com/9wMXO83IVs he beat you to it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 12:57 PM (IXrOn)

111 >>And his voters love him for it. Its not supposed to sell anything, its to bring his approval numbers up. Guess what? It's not working. Not only is it not pissing me off I am laughing my ass off and no, Obama isn't getting more popular. He is cratering at his lowest approval ever and not even the most desperate Dem incumbent wants him to campaign for them. Seriously, are some of you even watching what's going on? This is a full on disaster for the Dems and there is no way they can stop it.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2014 12:57 PM (g1DWB)

112 Just an aside I've fighting with some libs on FB about St Paddy's Day and the gays. I called it a sexual preference and some asshole tried to correct me and say it is an "orientation"? I just go straight to 11 with 'mental illness'.

Posted by: toby928© at March 17, 2014 12:57 PM (QupBk)

113 The March 31 deadline will be extended. That much is certain.

Posted by: Lauren at March 17, 2014 12:57 PM (hFL/3)

114 Aw hell! All I've been waiting for!!! I'll take Florida to win it all and the Aetna bronze  plan. Thanks Barry!

Posted by: Big Ol Fat Guy at March 17, 2014 12:57 PM (BpQmM)

115 This is the same attitude everyone had in 2012...oh don't worry, people are sure to vote for Romney because they know he's a much better manager than Obama. Oh don't worry, those polls are skewed. Oh don't worry, millennials who are unemployed will not vote for Obama again. Fast Forward 2 years... No way people will take Obama seriously with his NCAA picks...

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 12:58 PM (0LHZx)

116 You want to stop Putin? Scare the president? Make women faint? Show 'em this :
http://tinyurl.com/o33cswm

Posted by: Ted Fucking Cruz at March 17, 2014 12:58 PM (slXFW)

117 Richard Blumenthal

Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 12:58 PM (RJMhd)

118 Yeah, marketing Obamacare will make it more popular. "Get covered before the March 31 deadline." Deadline, what deadline? I don't like the sound of that. "If you're not covered by March 31 you will be required to pay a fine." Bossy.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2014 12:58 PM (j1dkV)

119 Please tell me that Barry picked Duke to win it all.

Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (JBggj)

120 #MANDATEMADNESS?

Posted by: AtParisParamus at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (aKzd4)

121 The between two ferns thing blew up social media, but only got 19K links through to the broken website. That's terrible. Even better/worse, that has been the biggest lead-in the site has had. Posted by: AMDG at March 17, 2014 04:50 PM (eFytx) Should have been called Two potheads between two pot plants. Sure, the may go click on it. But, then they see the cost, and besides, they are 26 or less in age, so mom/dad's insurance. Why bother.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (IXrOn)

122 The March 31 deadline will be extended. That much is certain. Posted by: Lauren at March 17, 2014 04:57 PM (hFL/3) They already announced it is being extended if, and they have not exactly announced the ifs yet but they are working on it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (nzKvP)

123

The March 31 deadline will be extended. That much is certain.

 

----

 

I thought it already was.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (0Jb7F)

124 I've heard that we only hate Obamacare because Americans will love it too much once they get it.

Posted by: HR at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (ZKzrr)

125 Check the tapes again. Reggie and Barry used those stolen passports and the plane- and its lovebirds- are in Bali.

Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (FcR7P)

126 99?

Not signing up for 404"kare" unless it's at gunpoint. So poor my tax guy tells me I don't even need to file a return this year. Eff the stupid SOB's....

Posted by: backhoe at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (ULH4o)

127 Well. Isn't that special. I'm just going to drink to my health. Aside from my liver. Sugars found in tequila may protect against obesity, diabetes http://tinyurl.com/knqub4a

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 17, 2014 12:59 PM (naUcP)

128 Please tell me that Barry picked Duke to win it all. Is he going to extend the final whistle until they do?

Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2014 01:00 PM (FcR7P)

129 Ukraine!? Let them eat MREs!

Posted by: Richard Bloomingthaw at March 17, 2014 01:00 PM (RJMhd)

130 FREE BIRTH CONTOL (after you your mom pay $300/month in premiums.)

Posted by: HR at March 17, 2014 01:01 PM (ZKzrr)

131 @129 Make Christian Leitner eligible again by executive order

Posted by: Big Ol Fat Guy at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (BpQmM)

132 According to Twitchy, the ACA brackets page doesn't work.

Posted by: fluffy at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (Ua6T/)

133 Just an aside I've fighting with some libs on FB about St Paddy's Day and the gays.

Holy shit man, you typed that out and clicked the post button. Think about that for a while. Maybe get some fresh air. Sit out a couple plays.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (+lsX1)

134 Not signing up for 404"kare" unless it's at gunpoint. So poor my tax guy tells me I don't even need to file a return this year. It's so screwed up that the one person I know who is exactly the sort of person who, if you're going to do this thing, is precisely the person who should be able to benefit...was told she wasn't eligible. And that is why I hate the Left, dear Horde.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (naUcP)

135 Not only for the Senate seats I thought were sure things, but also for Mitt Romney --- Mitt lost on his own. But good rule of thumb for those running. All you need to say is "I will repeal Obamacare, my opponent will not." You can use that line for any question ever asked. Example: Reporter: "Tell us about your family." Candidate: "Thankfully my family still has health insurance unlike many who have lost it due to Obamacare. I will repeal Obamacare, my opponent will not."

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (gmeXX)

136 So, that "everyone will love Obamacare by then" idea is out the window? In other news a celebrity ex-girlfriend of Mick Jagger has killed apparently killed herself by hanging. And I'm off...busy day...

Posted by: Meremortal at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (1Y+hH)

137 76 Obamacare is now officially the Windows 8 of government programs.

Obama is issuing Windows 8.1 by Executive Order

Posted by: Steve Jobs at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (e8kgV)

138 121 #MANDATEMADNESS?

Sounds good.

Posted by: Barney Frank at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (4nR9/)

139 Vietnam veteran, combat hero, Medal of Honor recipient Senator Richard Blumenthal

Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 04:58 PM (RJMhd)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (QFxY5)

140 I'll take Virginia just to be mr smarty pants.

Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (GXZgZ)

141 I've heard that we only hate Obamacare because Americans will love it too much once they get it. Posted by: HR at March 17, 2014 04:59 PM (ZKzrr) This isn't entirely untrue though. We hate it because one you get people addicted to the dole, it's impossible to get them off it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:02 PM (a8eFL)

142 Marketing only works when you have a good product as anyone who has ever been successful in marketing will tell you.

Noramaly that is true but how do you explain the election of the SCOMF Obama in 2008 and again in 2012?  It was pure marketing of an obvously defective product to anybody with any common sense. 

Posted by: George Orwell at March 17, 2014 01:03 PM (Vv4Go)

143 Well. Isn't that special. I'm just going to drink to my health. Aside from my liver. Sugars found in tequila may protect against obesity, diabetes Someone needs to tell Juan, Pablo, Jose, etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2014 01:03 PM (xQYpx)

144 2012 was the "theoretical" fight over Obamacare. 2014 is the reality. The nastiness of the law, all of the misery it causes, and the complete inability for most Democrats serving to distance themselves (youtube is forever!) leaves them with no cover. The Democrats will likely go all-in on turning governors mansions as the House has been long-written off and the Senate looks worse each week. There are more vulnerable GOP Governors than there are truly vulnerable Republican House seats and Senate seats combined. If the RGA actually does it's job (and Christie may make that tough, but let's go with this), the Rs may net a governor's mansion or two (AR, IL, CO) despite losing Govs Corbett and LePage. It isn't a good year for them, they know it, and they're ripping through the stages of death.

Posted by: CAC at March 17, 2014 01:03 PM (pQkGj)

145

S>>>eriously, are some of you even watching what's going on?

 

Sure. I'm saying "This is what it's supposed to do" not "This is what its doing"

 

Night all

Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Fist at March 17, 2014 01:03 PM (3ZtZW)

146 139 121 #MANDATEMADNESS? ---------------- Sounds good. Posted by: Barney Frank at March 17, 2014 05:02 PM (4nR9/) Thread Winer

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 17, 2014 01:04 PM (SKSM5)

147 Does Obama still have Russia winning it all?

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 17, 2014 01:04 PM (slXFW)

148 Just an aside I've fighting with some libs on FB about St Paddy's Day and the gays. I called it a sexual preference and some asshole tried to correct me and say it is an "orientation"? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 04:55 PM .......Simple, just ask him when the parade was ever about "orientation"? It never has been, it's an excuse for families to show their Irish pride (not gay or straight) Or even the non-Irish to enjoy the festivities, and for all to dress up in green, have a few and act silly for the day. Why the fuck do they have to make something as mindless as a parade about their lifestyle?

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2014 01:05 PM (/rlXg)

149 According to Twitchy, the ACA brackets page doesn't work. Posted by: fluffy at March 17, 2014 05:02 PM (Ua6T/) makes sense

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 01:05 PM (IXrOn)

150 S>>>eriously, are some of you even watching what's going on?

Naw bro, we just sit around and talk about recipes, Teh Five,  and movie reviews. Get real.

Posted by: Vlad at March 17, 2014 01:05 PM (Cs2tJ)

151

But...what about the "Healthcare Crisis!"?

 

Remember that? That was the reason why it had to be rushed through congress without reading it.

 

He keeps delaying it -- does that mean that the "Healthcare Crisis!" is over?

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 01:06 PM (Xs26g)

152 Does Obama still have Russia winning it all? He likes how they penetrate.

Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2014 01:06 PM (GXZgZ)

153 Marketing only works when you have a good product as anyone who has ever been successful in marketing will tell you.

Normally that is true but how do you explain the election of the SCOAMF Obama?  Twice.  It seems a majority of  the electorate can't see through the most transparent marketing gimmicks meant to appeal to their emotions. 

Posted by: George Orwell at March 17, 2014 01:06 PM (Vv4Go)

154 2012 was the "theoretical" fight over Obamacare. ---- Maybe in the actual fight we can nominate someone who is actually against a government takeover of healthcare.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:06 PM (gmeXX)

155 Too bad the SCOAMTT didn't get Buffett to include SCOAMTTcare in his billion dollar brackets deal.

Posted by: Justamom at March 17, 2014 01:06 PM (H0qOD)

156 >>Noramaly that is true but how do you explain the election of the SCOMF Obama in 2008 and again in 2012?

2008: Selling cheap grace for America's racial sins.
2012: Voter fraud

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2014 01:07 PM (udjuE)

157 A National Guard reservist has been arrested at the U.S.-Canada border in Washington for allegedly trying to aid al-Qaida in a plot to attack a Southland subway. Nicholas Teausant, 20, of Acampo, Calif., was charged Monday with attempting to provide material to support a foregoing terrorist organization, the U.S. District Attorney’s Office said. Teausant was arrested at the Canadian border “with the intent of continuing to travel to Syria to join the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, a foreign terrorist organization more widely known as al-Qaida in Iraq,” officials said. He allegedly began planning the attack late last year with the intent of carrying it out with the use of an unknown type of explosive on New Year’s Eve or New Year’s Day, a complaint said. Teausant is expected to make his initial appearance Monday afternoon. Just and aside, I think we are doing a terrible job of investigating the people in the Military. And I say that as someone who is not comfortable with a few people I serve with

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:07 PM (nzKvP)

158 OT- My primary bank pissed me off last week by bouncing a check due to taking so long to make deposited funds available, so today I'm switching banks. What should be easy is now a major pain, while I gather articles of incorporation for the S corp, operating agreement for the LLC, personal stuff to prove I'm not a terrorist or drug dealer and the results of my last anal probe. But I do get free checks. So there's that.

Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2014 01:07 PM (u2a4R)

159 I think they extended it if you can show that you had sign up issues, but I think they'll just say "Uh, actually it's open enrollment for the first year, ok?"

Posted by: Lauren at March 17, 2014 01:07 PM (hFL/3)

160 I swear a lot of progs are buying into Obamacare because they think that they are putting the screws to some boogy man (insurance companies, conservatives, the church, whoever) Many are simply throwing away their disposable income out of spite and the need to be seen as part of the cool group.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Inviisble Pimp Hand at March 17, 2014 01:07 PM (WdbF7)

161 Oh don't worry, those polls are skewed. Oh don't worry, millennials who are unemployed will not vote for Obama again. Fast Forward 2 years... No way people will take Obama seriously with his NCAA picks... Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 04:58 PM (0LHZx) Except: The polls show the Ds are suffering, there's absolutely no indication of LIV turnout (hence the sudden scramble to get these voters activated now), and the Democratic strategists and analysts themselves are forecasting a rough year. There are very, very few rah-rah'ers among them right now, which was not the case in 2012- most were overwhelmingly cocky and rightfully dismissive of Republican claims of "skewed polls". Go to any left-wing site when polls are released now showing their Senate incumbents in trouble. It's like looking into a mirror: a whoooole lot of "Republican tactics with voters" and "the polls are undersampling/oversampling/skewed (ha!)". They are doing what we were doing in 2012. They even have their "black hole" candidate, doomed to lose, whom they can't help but keep shuffling money and support towards- Wendy Davis. It really is fascinating to watch.

Posted by: CAC at March 17, 2014 01:07 PM (pQkGj)

162 Well here is something that shocked me. My next door neighbor has decided to retire early so she had to get Obamacare. She got a policy for $168 a month with a very reasonable deductible.

Posted by: Spring Fever at March 17, 2014 01:08 PM (i7KmQ)

163 According to Michelle, Barry is an old school baller with the skills and versatility to take it to the hole or pull up and sink treys at will.

Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2014 01:08 PM (UzPAd)

164 Give the dems credit, they were willing to take and pay for a risk.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:08 PM (gmeXX)

165 And I say that as someone who is not comfortable with a few people I serve with

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 05:07 PM (nzKvP)

You have Tea Party members in your unit?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:08 PM (QFxY5)

166 140 Vietnam veteran, combat hero, Medal of Honor recipient Senator Richard Blumenthal Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 04:58 PM (RJMhd) FIFY Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:02 PM (QFxY5) ************* omg--it's that asshole?

Posted by: Richard Bloomingthaw at March 17, 2014 01:08 PM (RJMhd)

167 Noramaly that is true but how do you explain the election of the SCOMF Obama in 2008 and again in 2012? It was pure marketing of an obvously defective product to anybody with any common sense. *** You don't target a consumer market that is unlikely to buy. Identifying the target consumer is a basic part of market research. They did a very good job of identifying their target consumer and marketing directly to them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 17, 2014 01:09 PM (DmNpO)

168 "This is the same attitude everyone had in 2012...oh don't worry, people are sure to vote for Romney because they know he's a much better manager than Obama."

In 2008 Obamacare was abstract.

In 2012 it was hidden.

In 2014 it's a known catastrophe with the worst yet to come.

Democrats in 2014 are now the Kaboom Kids and there's nothing they can do but choke it down.  They're stuck relying on Republicans to pick up the amnesty banner if they're to have any hope in November.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 17, 2014 01:09 PM (kUgpq)

169

#CavutoBrackets

 

Cavuto was doing his own brackets on Ocare today...

They had a big whiteboard, and his producers were putting up 'Reasons Why It's A Disaster', or something.

 

They were filling in the spaces with things like "Bosses cutting hours", etc.

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 01:09 PM (Xs26g)

170 Well here is something that shocked me. My next door neighbor has decided to retire early so she had to get Obamacare. She got a policy for $168 a month with a very reasonable deductible. Posted by: Spring Fever at March 17, 2014 05:08 PM (i7KmQ) Yeah right. Nice testimonial. Now show me the facts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:09 PM (nzKvP)

171 Posted by: CAC at March 17, 2014 05:03 PM (pQkGj) Plaid maps or it didn't happen.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:09 PM (a8eFL)

172 CAC, happy bday (yesterday) and what's the next race we're gonna do?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 17, 2014 01:10 PM (SKSM5)

173 OT- My primary bank pissed me off last week by bouncing a check due to taking so long to make deposited funds available, so today I'm switching banks. What should be easy is now a major pain, while I gather articles of incorporation for the S corp, operating agreement for the LLC, personal stuff to prove I'm not a terrorist or drug dealer and the results of my last anal probe. But I do get free checks. So there's that. *** go credit union

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 17, 2014 01:10 PM (DmNpO)

174 Bob Beckel is ignorant. It is as if he doesn't read the news before going on?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:10 PM (nzKvP)

175

They still don't understand why those up to 26 years old aren't signing up.

Too stupid for words.

**********

 

Democrats do not understand the entire concept of incentives. Just, at all. That is why they make so many decisions that are so incredibly stupid.

 

That and graft, but all the congresscriters are like that.

Posted by: Lea at March 17, 2014 01:11 PM (lIU4e)

176 My next door neighbor has decided to retire early so she had to get Obamacare. She got a policy for $168 a month with a very reasonable deductible.

Now get back to work, because you're paying for the rest of it.

Posted by: HR at March 17, 2014 01:11 PM (ZKzrr)

177 #CavutoBrackets Cavuto was doing his own brackets on Ocare today... They had a big whiteboard, and his producers were putting up 'Reasons Why It's A Disaster', or something. They were filling in the spaces with things like "Bosses cutting hours", etc. *** The winner was 'cost'

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 17, 2014 01:11 PM (DmNpO)

178 The firestorm began when McCarthy’s comments were reported by The Wall Street Journal last week while the agency head discussed federal gift guidelines. McCarthy said that federal officials chased her down for a “dinky” North Pole pin someone gave her at an event to which she said, “I threw the f–ing thing away.” She also said that a jar of moose meat she got from a little girl at a hearing in Alaska “could gag a maggot.”

Posted by: Chef Boyardee at March 17, 2014 01:11 PM (e8kgV)

179 "Even former White House spokesman Robert Gibbs now confesses Democratic hold of the Senate is "definitely, absolutely" in danger."
Sure, it helps with fundraising. They looked panicky in 2012 too. Guess it all worked out okay for them though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 17, 2014 01:11 PM (zfY+H)

180 OT: Since our only access to the ISS is via a seat aboard a Russian Soyuz at $70 million a pop, given the Russian/Ukraine/US situation if I was a US astronaut I would be very nervous about my current/future career opportunities right about now. Brilliant move by Top Men putting our only access to the space station - which we for the most part paid for - in the hands of the Russians. T.O.P. M.E.N.

Posted by: Alf767 at March 17, 2014 01:11 PM (Lh/vu)

181 go credit union Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 17, 2014 05:10 PM (DmNpO) I am not sure how anyone who has online access can bounce a check? You can see if your funds have cleared or not? And if you don't look, it's your own fault

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:11 PM (nzKvP)

182 CAC Now that you are here... Florida does not report like Wisconsin. Dems do hold their results back. The primary and huge difference between-- Wisconsin and how you watched the results reported there for a local election and Florida? Florida is a HUGE general election SWING state. It rolls different--much higher stakes.

Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 01:12 PM (RJMhd)

183 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 05:09 PM (a8eFL)

CAC is just slumming here.

His real gig is over at The Federalist, where he makes that mad blogger money and they pick up his bar tab in exchange for plaid and blown margins.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:12 PM (QFxY5)

184 Noramaly that is true but how do you explain the election of the SCOMF Obama in 2008 and again in 2012? It was pure marketing of an obvously defective product to anybody with any common sense. --- 2008 was the confluence of a very unique set of events with a once in a lifetime candidate. 2012 - well it may not have made all the difference, but we didn't really nominate a good candidate. It was a poor pool, but he was an exceptionally poor candidate nonetheless.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:12 PM (gmeXX)

185 Sign up for this thing I keep delaying! Brilliant! Pithy with just a hint of snark.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 17, 2014 01:12 PM (9Bdcz)

186 go credit union Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 17, 2014 05:10 PM (DmNpO) I checked the largest CU in my town, but they don't have their own SWIFT code - they go through an intermediary bank. With all the international wire transfers, I can't deal with that.

Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2014 01:12 PM (u2a4R)

187 Social media is why the Dems are whipping our asses!

Posted by: ms moooo mooooo at March 17, 2014 01:13 PM (hn5v5)

188 >>Noramaly that is true but how do you explain the election of the SCOMF Obama in 2008 and again in 2012? It was pure marketing of an obvously defective product to anybody with any common sense. True to a point. But most people weren't "buying" Obama, they were voting for him for free. And the alternative product was McCain in 2008 and he had the press covering for him madly in 2012. If the msm had actually reported on F&F, Benghazi, the IRS, the real facts about Obamacare, etc., he would have been dust. Hell, they actually reported the WH spin that the economy and unemployment were improving. But Obamacare has real costs to almost everyone that are only now becoming apparent. When it was just a plan the left and the media could spin (lie) about how it was going to work and those who couldn't be bothered to look at the facts thought it was a great product. Thats why Obamacare implementation was put off until after the 2012 election. I've always believed that once people got to see what Obamacare was really all about they would reject it out of hand. One of the oldest jokes in advertising is that the best advertising campaign in the world for dog food won't work if the dogs won't eat the dog food. The dogs have now seen the food and they won't eat it.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2014 01:13 PM (g1DWB)

189 Bob Beckel is ignorant. It is as if he doesn't read the news before going on? **** Now, now. You know that Libs don't have to know anything about a subject to voice an opinion on the matter. Besides that, yeah, he's basically admitted that in the past.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 17, 2014 01:13 PM (DmNpO)

190 "Obamacare is going to crush the Dems this fall. Bank on it."
My crystal ball sucks, so I hope you're right and I'm wrong but I just don't see it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 17, 2014 01:13 PM (zfY+H)

191 Except: The polls show the Ds are suffering, there's absolutely no indication of LIV turnout (hence the sudden scramble to get these voters activated now), and the Democratic strategists and analysts themselves are forecasting a rough year. There are very, very few rah-rah'ers among them right now, which was not the case in 2012- most were overwhelmingly cocky and rightfully dismissive of Republican claims of "skewed polls". Go to any left-wing site when polls are released now showing their Senate incumbents in trouble. It's like looking into a mirror: a whoooole lot of "Republican tactics with voters" and "the polls are undersampling/oversampling/skewed (ha!)". They are doing what we were doing in 2012. They even have their "black hole" candidate, doomed to lose, whom they can't help but keep shuffling money and support towards- Wendy Davis. It really is fascinating to watch. Posted by: CAC at March 17, 2014 05:07 PM (pQkGj) ____________ I agree with all this. BUT... Why not do the social media / pop culture thing? There's no downside and only potential upside. My point is the GOP/right is being very obtuse if it thinks not using these types of tools is the way to go in the future. I don't like it any more than you. But the reality is pop culture is a vehicle to gain votes. I hate that this country is at the level where POTUS goes on Entertainment Tonight. But you're not going to change that. So either you cede the Entertainment Tonight demo to the Dems or you fight back. And the same goes for ESPN appearances, American Idol, you name it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 01:13 PM (0LHZx)

192 129 Please tell me that Barry picked Duke to win it all. Is he going to extend the final whistle until they do? Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2014 05:00 PM (FcR7P) Hey, assholes, Barry's team is UNC. Tingle leg's school. Seriously.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 17, 2014 01:13 PM (0FSuD)

193 Yeah right. Nice testimonial. Now show me the facts Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 05:09 PM (nzKvP) I'd believe it if only because the dems want people addicted to subsidies. Drop your income to the right value and you get a cheap plan.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:14 PM (a8eFL)

194 Hey Vlad - my bracket can beat your bracket!

Posted by: Preznit at March 17, 2014 01:14 PM (B3WUC)

195 In 2014 it's a known catastrophe with the worst yet to come.

Democrats in 2014 are now the Kaboom Kids and there's nothing they can do but choke it down.

I'd like to believe it, and it could well happen, but a lot of us said similar things about the UE rate, gas costs, etc. in the run up to '12. 

The prudent thing now is to avoid overconfidence and stay hungry.

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 01:14 PM (4nR9/)

196 #CavutoBrackets Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 05:09 PM (Xs26g) The hashtag was #1 on US trends. It's now moved off the list.

Posted by: George Carter Costanza [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 17, 2014 01:14 PM (bCEmE)

197 CAC, I just saw an Iowa poll that says Iowans are very disappointed in Obama yet they are going to pull that D lever for Harkins open seat and Hilllary has a 12 point lead over any R.

Posted by: Spring Fever at March 17, 2014 01:15 PM (i7KmQ)

198 Drop your income to the right value and you get a cheap plan. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 05:14 PM (a8eFL) Yeah it's called Medicaid and it's selling like hot cakes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:15 PM (nzKvP)

199 Other things Democrats don't understand: Math.

Posted by: Lea at March 17, 2014 01:16 PM (lIU4e)

200 The prudent thing now is to avoid overconfidence and stay hungry.

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 05:14 PM (4nR9/)

CAC seems cautiously optimistic, and he got burned in 2012, so he is sensitive to allowing emotions dictate projections.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:16 PM (QFxY5)

201 The conventional wisdom is GOP = old angry white guy. This isn't a just a political things. It's a cultural thing. And you don't change culture by taking the attitude that culture and politics shouldn't mix.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 01:16 PM (0LHZx)

202 Troll alert

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:16 PM (nzKvP)

203

165 Give the dems credit, they were willing to take and pay for a risk.

 

I don't think they saw it as a "risk".

 

They didn't read the Bill...they were told that "people will love it", and so they believed their own propaganda. 

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 01:16 PM (Xs26g)

204 No matter what 'republicans' do the guy won't be touched. He will 'go down' in history as a historic first-born or whatever. Don't forget,  yankees have been writing our history since before T.W.B.T.S., and they have been changing it (just like in Orwell's 1984) for a long time.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 17, 2014 01:16 PM (1gcFZ)

205 My point is the GOP/right is being very obtuse if it thinks not using these types of tools is the way to go in the future. ----- Mr. Moo - I think you are right that it isn't a bad idea for Obama to go there, because (a) it is basically all he knows and (b) it works. But it works for him. I don't think a similar strategy will work for other candidates. I understand your general point, which I somewhat agree with. It is all just a variation of who would you rather have a beer with. But Obama has taken the pop thing to an extreme primarily because he has the cover to do so.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:17 PM (gmeXX)

206  Why the fuck do they have to make something as mindless as a parade about their lifestyle?

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 17, 2014 05:05 PM (/rlXg)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

C'mon.  Everything is political now.  EVERYTHING!

Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2014 01:17 PM (0IPQM)

207 Hilllary has a 12 point lead over any R.

Posted by: Spring Fever at March 17, 2014 05:15 PM (i7KmQ)

And name recognition plays a huge roll in these early polls.

What is important is who is on the ballot in 2016, not whose name Iowans recognize in early 2014.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:17 PM (QFxY5)

208 OT the senior pilot, the one everyone is looking at as the potential suicide, was not on the flight schedule that night the pilot who was supposed to fly that night got pulled off the schedule, and this guy was asked to fly instead don't know who made the switch or why. in light of that, a poster at Jetphotos.net wrote, I cannot see any far fetched scenario where the aircraft has been flown to a secret location by shadowing another airliner etc etc for future use. The planning required to pull this off would be massive involving a worldwide team with members in many locations across various countries. Intelligence would likely have had a hint that something of this nature was in the planning as many international calls and/or much internet chat would have been going on for many months or longer. The change of Captain at the last minute also suggests that a combined Captain/Co-pilot plan was unlikely. When I think of it, it also suggests an unlikelihood that the Captain was involved, neither did he wish to commit suicide. I am assuming the latter since it appears that he was scheduled to be off at the time, then asked at the last minute to operate the flight. How could he have put such an elaborate plan together at such short notice? To me, this narrows things down to the co-pilot. Also corroborated by the latest suggestion that the co-pilot may have made the last radio call after the first stages of the plan have already been set in motion. The climb to much higher than normal altitude followed by erratic altitude flying could indeed be explained by a struggle on the flight deck. It could also contrarily have been part of the plan to eliminate the passengers and cabin crew as quickly as possible by hypoxia, knowing that the flight deck has access to a much longer supply of oxygen. The co-pilot could ultimately have set the aircraft to head south for the vast Indian Ocean (or north to the vast expanses of uninhabited wilderness), then also killed himself so that the aircraft would continue for many hours until fuel starvation and ultimate crash. No weapon would have been necessary, he could simply have depressurized the aircraft (for the second time assuming he re-pressurized after all the passengers were dead/unconscious) and let hypoxia set in. This is a painless way to die. If this theory, or something close to it is what happened. Debris will be found somewhere (maybe not for a long time) in the Indian Ocean or wreckage somewhere in China, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan or even Turkmenistan. I have recently flown a route in the vicinity of the outer part of the northern arc over some of these countries and can assure posters/readers that these countries have vast uninhabited expanses of desert/wilderness/mountains and the burned out wreckage of a B772 would be tiny in comparison. The only thing that might make such a thing a little easier to spot might be the fact that significant areas of higher ground in these areas is at present snow covered making a dark spot more obvious. I do think however that the Indian Ocean is somewhat more likely. this makes the most sense to me

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 01:17 PM (zOTsN)

209 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:12 PM (QFxY5) Maybe he can tell me where to tap into that sweet sweet Koch money (I still need my driveway fixed.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:18 PM (a8eFL)

210 CAC, I just saw an Iowa poll that says Iowans are very disappointed in Obama yet they are going to pull that D lever for Harkins open seat and Hilllary has a 12 point lead over any R. ---- Sure the tea party may want to get rid of those corn subsidies.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:18 PM (gmeXX)

211 Well here is something that shocked me. My next door neighbor has decided to retire early so she had to get Obamacare. She got a policy for $168 a month with a very reasonable deductible.

Retired early to be subsidized by the productive class for the next 40 years? Awesome! Say, was your neighbor a public employee? Bet she was.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 17, 2014 01:18 PM (+lsX1)

212 Can you just imagine the possibilities if there was a true oppostion party?

Posted by: Sam In VA at March 17, 2014 01:18 PM (Q52VH)

213 Just had my first Yuengling Black and Tan, bottle, poured into a pint glass. Not bad at all. Heavier than I expected, but that's not a bad thing. Have to have a few to see how it manifests itself.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 17, 2014 01:18 PM (ZshNr)

214 Don't forget, yankees have been writing our history since before T.W.B.T.S., and they have been changing it (just like in Orwell's 1984) for a long time.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 17, 2014 05:16 PM (1gcFZ)

That's because most Southerners can't write.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:18 PM (QFxY5)

215 Obama seemed to take pains to bolster Abbas, commending him for his commitment to peace and praising him as a leader who "has consistently renounced violence, has consistently sought a diplomatic and peaceful solution that allows for two states, side by side in peace and security - a state that allows for the dignity and sovereignty of the Palestinian people and a state that allows for Israelis to feel secure and at peace with their neighbors." What a load od horse shit, even from obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:18 PM (nzKvP)

216 And name recognition plays a huge roll in these early polls.

The huge roll thread is the one below this one. 

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 01:19 PM (4nR9/)

217 I don't like it any more than you. But the reality is pop culture is a vehicle to gain votes. I hate that this country is at the level where POTUS goes on Entertainment Tonight. But you're not going to change that. So either you cede the Entertainment Tonight demo to the Dems or you fight back. And the same goes for ESPN appearances, American Idol, you name it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 05:13 PM (0LHZx)


Okay, but doesn't he eventually get to the point of over saturation in pop culture. Every pop culture icon eventually has their downfall, look at pop singers, athletes, movie stars. Eventually people say enough. Does that eventually happen with Obama?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Inviisble Pimp Hand at March 17, 2014 01:20 PM (WdbF7)

218 Have to have a few to see how it manifests itself.

Statistics, my friend.  Make sure your sample set is sufficiently large.

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 01:20 PM (4nR9/)

219

178...The winner was 'cost'

 

Thanks, NDH...I didn't get to see what the winner was.

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 01:20 PM (Xs26g)

220 And name recognition plays a huge roll in these early polls. What is important is who is on the ballot in 2016, not whose name Iowans recognize in early 2014. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:17 PM (QFxY5) __________ Here we go.....the polls are skewed.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 01:20 PM (0LHZx)

221 @14 Would we say the Democrats are "having a cow" or should that wait a few more threads? Posted by: boulder toilet hobo

And that cow...named "Bossy"?
____________________
I called it a sexual preference and some asshole tried to correct me and say it is an "orientation"?

Na-bro. Guinness and Bass Arthur-Narf is a preference.
Yuengling "Black and Tan" in a green can is an "orientation."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 17, 2014 01:20 PM (xq1UY)

222 "Why not do the social media / pop culture thing? There's no downside and only potential upside.

My point is the GOP/right is being very obtuse if it thinks not using these types of tools is the way to go in the future."

1) The GOP does use them to the extent they're able (Everyone in Washington has a Twitter feed, John McCain has a Twitter feed for God's sake).

2) The people who run/populate social media VOLUNTEER to help Obama.  They don't for the GOP.  There can never be celebrity-filled ads for GOP candidates because there aren't many conservatives in media/pop culture.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 17, 2014 01:20 PM (kUgpq)

223 We're the Vermont of the Midwest.

Posted by: Iowa at March 17, 2014 01:21 PM (Dwehj)

224 Yeah it's called Medicaid and it's selling like hot cakes Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 05:15 PM (nzKvP) I'm not saying I approve of it. In in fact to steal unabashedly (and poorly) from Kant: If everyone did that we'd all be fucked, so it's immoral. But that sweat spot is 151% poverty. It's possible, and it's disaster for the economy.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:21 PM (a8eFL)

225 215 That's because most Southerners can't write. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:18 PM (QFxY5) *c@nt punt* Here laddie, ave a beer.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 17, 2014 01:21 PM (SKSM5)

226 I wouldn't count on Iowa going GOP in next election. Those corn subsidies are tough to shake off.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:21 PM (gmeXX)

227 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo


You really are fucking tiresome.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 17, 2014 01:21 PM (slXFW)

228 Okay, but doesn't he eventually get to the point of over saturation in pop culture. Every pop culture icon eventually has their downfall, look at pop singers, athletes, movie stars. Eventually people say enough. Does that eventually happen with Obama?

Vanessa Hudgens and Britney Spears could take their clothes off.  I doubt it will work for him.  

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 01:22 PM (4nR9/)

229 Okay, but doesn't he eventually get to the point of over saturation in pop culture. Every pop culture icon eventually has their downfall, look at pop singers, athletes, movie stars. Eventually people say enough. Does that eventually happen with Obama? Posted by: Adam Smith's Inviisble Pimp Hand at March 17, 2014 05:20 PM (WdbF7) _________ That's a valid point. And I don't know. But that's not what everyone here is saying. What everyone here is saying is that it's somehow beneath the office to do what he's doing. My view is fuck it, there are no rules anymore. You do what you have to do. And if that means making a complete mockery of the office, so be it. Enough of this "the office of the presidency is too important to do X". If X = more votes do it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 01:22 PM (0LHZx)

230 @209 Thanks, makes good sense, but wasn't co pilot married also?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 17, 2014 01:22 PM (0FSuD)

231 Dancing duck GIFs win elections!

Posted by: ms moooo mooooo at March 17, 2014 01:22 PM (hn5v5)

232 Dear Obamacare Forum,

You'll never believe this but it's true. My next-door neighbor recently retired and had to get Obamacare. Well I don't need to tell you it's a knockout! Once I saw those taut deductibles and firm, rounded coverage, I couldn't wait to get my own plan.

Posted by: True Story at March 17, 2014 01:23 PM (FrfNj)

233 It's spam. Obamacare is nothing but spam now.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2014 01:23 PM (xSegX)

234 Here we go.....the polls are skewed. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 05:20 PM (0LHZx) No: Skewed polls turned out to be a stupid idea. Saying "it's far to early for the polls to predict the future." If it's July 2016 and we're still seeing that, yeah we're hosed.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:23 PM (a8eFL)

235 Well, he's trying to sell the Democrat Party. The Party loves you and is just like you. We care. About you.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 17, 2014 01:23 PM (jhfwW)

236 What everyone here is saying is that it's somehow beneath the office to do what he's doing. My view is fuck it, there are no rules anymore. --- It can be both beneath the office and good politics. I think the press coorespondence dinners are beneath the office (and more navel gazing), but I guess they are necessary parts of the job today.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:24 PM (gmeXX)

237 Here we go.....the polls are skewed.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 05:20 PM (0LHZx)

And you aren't too bright if that's what you think I said.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:24 PM (QFxY5)

238 That's because most Southerners can't write. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:18 PM (QFxY5) Really? How you like that constitution Jefferson and I wrote, Yankee?

Posted by: James Madison at March 17, 2014 01:24 PM (0FSuD)

239 sock off

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 17, 2014 01:24 PM (bCEmE)

240 234 It's spam. Obamacare is nothing but spam now.

I'd rather click on one of those "make your penis larger" ads.  They're relentless once they know you're interested. 


Or so I've heard. 

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2014 01:24 PM (4nR9/)

241 I made this point last night and was pilloried here for it... Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 04:41 PM (0LHZx) ________________________ Hang in there Moo Moo! If you insist on making the same "point", please expect the same results.

Posted by: alwyr at March 17, 2014 01:24 PM (V0j3u)

242 "I am not sure how anyone who has online access can bounce a check? You can see if your funds have cleared or not? And if you don't look, it's your own fault" Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 05:11 PM (nzKvP) This was an odd situation where the hold up came from two accounts within the same bank. Funds were deposited from an investment account (outside the bank) into a little used account - a living trust checking account. Then a check was written on that account to my personal account. Not knowing, the bank held clearing the check from their own bank for a few days. Yes, I should have checked, but I never thought a bank would try to float their own checks to gain some miniscule amount in interest. Fucking bankers.

Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2014 01:25 PM (u2a4R)

243 Here laddie, ave a beer.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 17, 2014 05:21 PM (SKSM5)

Finally....an important topic.

What the fuck am I going to do about Guinness?

What is the appropriate replacement?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:25 PM (QFxY5)

244 I made this point last night and was pilloried here for it...

Now there's a surprise.

Posted by: Iowa at March 17, 2014 01:26 PM (Dwehj)

245 I wouldn't count on Iowa going GOP in next election. Those corn subsidies are tough to shake off.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 05:21 PM (gmeXX)

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

Yup.  Iowans had a price.  It was paid by the corn fiasco.  I'll  not put any hopes in anyone in Iowa being for anything good for America.  They've been bought.

Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2014 01:26 PM (0IPQM)

246 The dogs have now seen the food and they won't eat it.

And yet I'm supposed to show up and pull the R lever so the chow gets "fixed".  BRB gotta go fool the cat.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 17, 2014 01:27 PM (DL2i+)

247 You used to drink Guinness? Nazi enabler.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 17, 2014 01:27 PM (hn5v5)

248 Yup. Iowans had a price. It was paid by the corn fiasco. I'll not put any hopes in anyone in Iowa being for anything good for America. They've been bought. ---- I would cede Iowa and make them pay a price.

Posted by: SH at March 17, 2014 01:27 PM (gmeXX)

249 No: Skewed polls turned out to be a stupid idea. Saying "it's far to early for the polls to predict the future." If it's July 2016 and we're still seeing that, yeah we're hosed. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 05:23 PM (a8eFL) ____________ FWIW....Bush led Gore in early 1999 and for a couple of blips here and there, was never behind until election day.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 01:28 PM (0LHZx)

250 Thanks, makes good sense, but wasn't co pilot married also? Posted by: Nip Sip engaged. and described by his grandma as "religious". he is in the age range for sudden jihadi syndrome. pulled a quieter Egypt Air

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 01:28 PM (zOTsN)

251 What is the appropriate replacement? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:25 PM (QFxY5) A nice Kentucky bourbon barrel stout.

Posted by: AMDG at March 17, 2014 01:28 PM (eFytx)

252 CAC, I just saw an Iowa poll that says Iowans are very disappointed in Obama yet they are going to pull that D lever for Harkins open seat and Hilllary has a 12 point lead over any R. Posted by: Spring Fever at March 17, 2014 05:15 PM (i7KmQ) Well by all means then the world is surely over. Or...that's one poll showing the Republican field hasn't gelled at all (makes sense- no first-tier candidates and a very divided primary) and that Hillary leads in a theoretical election that is over two years away. R's aren't favored to win the IA Senate seat, certainly not to the degree they are in South Dakota, Montana, West Virginia, Arkansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, Michigan, Colorado or Alaska. If they can get their act straight there and unify rapidly post-primary, watch those numbers close up a tad. It also helps the Democrats that the candidate they have running there has been using the "Obamcare is a big failure" line, despite voting for it. FL13 was a special election, but what should terrify Dems MOST about it was they had the strongest possible candidate to compete in a tossup district against a Republican candidate who barely won his primary and was already being written off by DC-area politicos, they polled "fix it" as working well, they out-fundraised the Republican, their candidate RAN on being a moderate and won a substantial crossover vote... and they still lost.

Posted by: CAC at March 17, 2014 01:28 PM (pQkGj)

253 Posted by: James Madison at March 17, 2014 05:24 PM (0FSuD)

Morris, Dickinson, Adams, Paine, Sherman, and a few I don't remember.

Adams helped Jefferson and Madison with the big words.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:28 PM (QFxY5)

254

Pop culture idols don't have power over you.

Not like Barky has.

 

He abuses this power...like an abusive boss who has power over his employees.

 

No amount of propaganda will camouflage this forever. 

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 01:28 PM (Xs26g)

255 "But the reality is pop culture is a vehicle to gain votes. I hate that this country is at the level where POTUS goes on Entertainment Tonight. But you're not going to change that. So either you cede the Entertainment Tonight demo to the Dems or you fight back. And the same goes for ESPN appearances, American Idol, you name it."

1968. Richard Nixon went on _Laugh-In_.

Guess what changed between 1968 and now?

Starting in the Seventies, baby boomers fresh from leftist campus radicalism took over all the executive positions in entertainment and media.

As the boomers have aged and started to die or retire, they've been replaced in those key positions by younger figures who are cut from the same cloth.

So any "pop culture" strategy basically relies on an uphill attack against a strongpoint that's been completely dominated and extensively fortified by the New Left for four decades now. Sure, that'll work brilliantly.

Not to mention that Republicans generally aren't any good at this stuff. I still remember with a huge cringe Mitt Romney coming across a couple of young black guys and essaying, with a stiff Mormon smile, "Who let tha dogs out?"

Facepalm.

What's the counter strategy to flashy triviality? It's not to ineptly try to mirror flashy triviality. It's to instead project dignified seriousness. The media model that Mike Deaver put together for Reagan.

The Deaver message to the public was: "This guy is _the president_. THE PRESIDENT. Of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. He has the most important job in the country. Crushing responsibilities. Massive demands. Do not expect him to go fluttering after trivialities."

Perhaps that won't work any longer. Couldn't hurt to try.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2014 01:29 PM (gqT4g)

256 Hey, once you've had a suck or two on that sweet Uncle Sugar teat, there's no turnin' back.

Posted by: Iowans at March 17, 2014 01:29 PM (Dwehj)

257 CBD, I believe someone mentioned it up thread...Yuengling's Black and Tan. Good beer and bonus points for tolerance!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 17, 2014 01:29 PM (SKSM5)

258 CBD, I believe someone mentioned it up thread...Yuengling's Black and Tan. Good beer and bonus points for tolerance! Posted by: BCochran1981 please a fight broke out this morning over canned black and tan

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 01:30 PM (zOTsN)

259
Yeah right. Nice testimonial. Now show me the facts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 05:09 PM (nzKvP)

I'd believe it if only because the dems want people addicted to subsidies. Drop your income to the right value and you get a cheap plan.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 05:14 PM (a8eFL)

******

I've got a sliver plan with subsidy.

Overall shit a plan compared to the one I lost and more expensive if you don't qualify for a subsidy.

Rx more expensive no eye, no dental. I take that back I do have dental. Pediatric dental.


Posted by: YIKES! at March 17, 2014 01:30 PM (mETGQ)

260 Did someone say spam?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 01:30 PM (pR5YY)

261 A nice Kentucky bourbon barrel stout.

Posted by: AMDG at March 17, 2014 05:28 PM (eFytx)

Got one in mind?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:30 PM (QFxY5)

262 FWIW....Bush led Gore in early 1999 and for a couple of blips here and there, was never behind until election day. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 05:28 PM (0LHZx) That's a great 1 PT graph you have there, 1 more and you have a shitty trend line. I'm not saying we're definitively not screwed, I'm saying it's too early to lose hope. Plus 2014 does matter more than 1999 did, if we can get control of both houses, we can force democrats to vote

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:32 PM (a8eFL)

263 Finally....an important topic. What the fuck am I going to do about Guinness? What is the appropriate replacement? Scotch. Single malt.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2014 01:32 PM (3DBKx)

264 Posted by: BCochran1981 at March 17, 2014 05:29 PM (SKSM5)

Now it's official.

I have to attend your meet-up just to teach you people how to drink.

I'll bring a back-up Jew just in case I can't handle 12 Southerners on my own.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:32 PM (QFxY5)

265 a fight broke out this morning over canned black and tan

Sigh. Only on the interwebs...

Posted by: Iowans at March 17, 2014 01:32 PM (Dwehj)

266 Scotch. Single malt.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2014 05:32 PM (3DBKx)

We're talking about breakfast, not lunch or dinner.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:32 PM (QFxY5)

267 CBD: That's the brand. Kentucky Bourbon barrel stout, from Lexington Brewing and Distilling Co. I'm in Ohio, so not hard to find, but best of luck on your end.

Posted by: AMDG at March 17, 2014 01:33 PM (eFytx)

268
The Deaver message to the public was: "This guy is _the president_. THE PRESIDENT. Of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. He has the most important job in the country. Crushing responsibilities. Massive demands. Do not expect him to go fluttering after trivialities."

Perhaps that won't work any longer. Couldn't hurt to try.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2014 05:29 PM (gqT4g)


__________


1980 might as well have been 1580 in terms of pop culture compared to the 2010s.


For people under 35/40, the OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY just doesn't mean a hell of a lot. It's what can he do for me and is he cool? And yes I know this doesn't apply to 100% of the people, but it does apply to a significant majority.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 01:33 PM (0LHZx)

269 >>I'll bring a back-up Jew just in case I can't handle 12 Southerners on my own. Give 'em a Rubik's Cube. Keep 'em busy for weeks.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2014 01:34 PM (g1DWB)

270 Posted by: AMDG at March 17, 2014 05:33 PM (eFytx)

Got it!

Thanks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 01:34 PM (QFxY5)

271 After this mornings brouhaha (yeah I chose not to cute it up with "brew haha"), I understood the Yuengling's Band T to be a brand name, marketing thing, not an attempt to re-create a barroom Black and Tan. It's not bad. Out of a bottle, then glass. Second one end route.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 17, 2014 01:34 PM (ZshNr)

272 I'm in the 35-40 age group and quite frankly, I don't give a fuck about THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. And this is why Clinton survived as well I think. Enough people thought, yeah he bones his interns. Meh. NASDAQ is at 5K, and life is good. Who cares? That was my attitude and I thought impeachment was insane.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 01:35 PM (0LHZx)

273 I've got a sliver plan with subsidy. Overall shit a plan compared to the one I lost and more expensive if you don't qualify for a subsidy.Rx more expensive no eye, no dental. I take that back I do have dental. Pediatric dental. Posted by: YIKES! at March 17, 2014 05:30 PM (mETGQ) Happy people will be far and few between, but there will be outliers. And the dems will find them and try to make them the norm. We need to point out that tethered to the government teeth is no way to go through life.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:35 PM (a8eFL)

274 Just an aside I've fighting with some libs on FB about St Paddy's Day and the gays. I called it a sexual preference and some asshole tried to correct me and say it is an "orientation"? Just inform him that according to current dogma, pedophilia is also an "orientation."

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at March 17, 2014 01:36 PM (C15wm)

275 nood...in case you didn't know

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 01:36 PM (Xs26g)

276 That was my attitude and I thought impeachment was insane.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 05:35 PM (0LHZx)


We can fix that for you.

Posted by: ACA IPAB (A/K/A at March 17, 2014 01:37 PM (Kkt/i)

277 We need to point out that tethered to the government teeth is no way to go through life.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 05:35 PM (a8eFL)

 

 

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In this day and age, good luck with that.

Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2014 01:37 PM (0IPQM)

278 CBD, I believe someone mentioned it up thread...Yuengling's Black and Tan. Good beer and bonus points for tolerance!

Growing up we had a very tolerant black and tan Dachshund.  She was protective too.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 01:37 PM (P7Wsr)

279 In this day and age, good luck with that. Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2014 05:37 PM (0IPQM) Then despair, because it's all over but the shooting.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 01:38 PM (a8eFL)

280 Meh. NASDAQ is at 5K, and life is good. Who cares?

I like you, son. You have that certain "I, Me, Mine" about you that folks like me find so endearing.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 17, 2014 01:38 PM (Dwehj)

281 The Democrats deserve much more to lose an election what they did in shoving Obamacare through.  The MFM too, for their role.  Fucking assholes.  They are hurting so so many people and families with this mess.  These little "bracket" stunts and other failing efforts to make O-care even have a chance (with billion$ wa$ted on the same as well as on 'navigators', stoopid adverts and the other things to sweeten the shit sandwich) just add insult to injury.  Oh, you can throw in his racialist wife's living large bill as more salt in the wound of so many hard working people.

Putting aside the self evident failure of this "signature legislation" for Barkey, the Rats and media are letting  and/or defending Obama and the DHS as they make up new rules contrary to their own fucking law  as each new O-care shitstorm arises.  All to save face and legacy for the lazy, loser of a president who has fucked everything up he has touched, intentionally or through arrogant incompetence or neglect.  Nobody, I mean nobody, could have convinced me that the nation and world would be so boned by his election. 

At least race relations are better.  Oh wait.... 

Posted by: eureka! at March 17, 2014 01:39 PM (06U7A)

282 I'll bring a back-up Jew just in case I can't handle 12 Southerners on my own. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:32 PM (QFxY5) I'm in. Where are we gong?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:40 PM (nzKvP)

283
Why do you lay these troubles on an already troubled mind? Can you not see your president is wearied by your malcontent? Your warmongering?

Posted by: Gríma Wormtongue aka MFM at March 17, 2014 01:41 PM (mETGQ)

284 How many of these "dropped my income & got a great Ocare plan" are going to be subject to Medicare clawback?

Posted by: votermom at March 17, 2014 01:41 PM (GSIDW)

285 Pic of The Day: Vans Offering “Free” Obamacare In Spanish Now Roaming Streets of Miami… Matt Drudge snapped the below pic today in Miami. Under the license plate it says “totalmente gratis,” which means “totally free” in English. Weasel Zippers: Totally free ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 01:42 PM (nzKvP)

286 286 Pretty sure there's candy in that van too

Posted by: votermom at March 17, 2014 01:43 PM (GSIDW)

287 Can Barak issue an executive order delaying the start of the NCAA tournament so I'll have additional time to make my picks?

Posted by: alwyr at March 17, 2014 01:47 PM (V0j3u)

288 hey, anyone know if lebron james was paid for his obamacare ad?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 17, 2014 01:49 PM (rDidD)

289 I wouldn't know a bracket from a strut. That indicates what I know about college basketball, but given their past record I have no doubt that Obama's cronies would combine signing up for Obama with anything including pee-wee football and T-ball for tots.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2014 01:49 PM (XyM/Y)

290 signing up for "Obacare".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2014 01:50 PM (XyM/Y)

291 People are plenty upset at Democrats but the truth is, they don't see a positive alternative in Republicans. So when it comes to the end of the day, do you think they'll really pull that lever for the R?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 17, 2014 01:52 PM (zfY+H)

292 Duh!1 is still an idiot-at best. & so are his enablers...
Feel free to quote me....

Posted by: backhoe at March 17, 2014 01:55 PM (ULH4o)

293 This isn't a just a political things. It's a cultural thing. And you don't change culture by taking the attitude that culture and politics shouldn't mix.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 05:16 PM (0LHZx)

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Agreed.  Hella lot catching up to do.  Now we will be battling Common Coron LIVs, taught from Day 1 that "gov't good" and the needs of many trump the desires of one who has more stuff --even if he or she earned it.  The fucking commies have taken over from within.

Posted by: eureka! at March 17, 2014 02:01 PM (06U7A)

294 My next door neighbor has decided to retire early so she had to get Obamacare. She got a policy for $168 a month with a very reasonable deductible. wheatie at March 17, 2014 05:09 PM (Xs26g) __________________________________ That's nothing! My next door neighbor made $3,030 just last week from her couch at home. And guess what? YOU CAN TOO!! All you have to do is sign up to be a paid shill/troll for Obamacare. It's real easy! And, if you run out of irritating stuff to post at websites?....That's no problem either, because you still have the couch as a source of income!

Posted by: alwyr at March 17, 2014 02:01 PM (V0j3u)

295 Oh look. Some ignorant peckerhead blew out the margins asshole

Posted by: NativeNH at March 17, 2014 02:03 PM (E2CHb)

296 Hell boys , I'll bring me a couple a' southern jews from Charleston to take you yankees on . Let's see ya' talk shit then !! Course , I don't reckon they kin rite all that good either , so maybe you have a point .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 17, 2014 02:04 PM (whqez)

297 Because nothing says, "serious you guys" like a contest akin to voting for your favorite Halloween candy applied to your signature legislative "accomplishment" that is single-handedly destroying one sixth of our economy #ObamacareBracketology

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 17, 2014 02:14 PM (HsTG8)

298

2009: Boy, ObamaÂ’s sticking it to those wingnuts now, huh?

2010: Ha! ItÂ’s the law! Go Obama! Eat it, wingnuts!

2011: HeÂ’s untouchable! CanÂ’t pin a thing on him!

2012: Mitt Romney? Hahahahaha, stupid wingnuts!

2013: Um, er, yes, sure, thereÂ’s been a few problemsÂ…

2014: Obama who? Never heard of him. I donÂ’t know him!  Chicago cock crows three times

Posted by: Dobie Gillis at March 17, 2014 02:59 PM (e8kgV)

299 My next door neighbor has decided to retire early so she had to get Obamacare. She got a policy for $168 a month with a very reasonable deductible. wheatie at March 17, 2014 05:09 PM (Xs26g) __________________________________ The Obamacare commandos have even infiltrated AOSHQ's........ Seriously, this is most likely another part of the marketing. Sending their trolls to spread the word via comments sections.

Posted by: Jen at March 17, 2014 03:17 PM (JqB3t)

300 I have never gone near the ACA websites. I can only imagine what happens to your email and your browsing once you click on that site and it velcros cookies to your address. Pajama boy appears in every site you open. Daily email blasts touting the benefits of signing up for Obamacare. EEeek! By the way, the administration announced this afternoon that they now have FIVE million signups. Which of course, no sane adult believes.

Posted by: Jen at March 17, 2014 03:20 PM (JqB3t)

301 Morris, Dickinson, Adams, Paine, Sherman, and a few I don't remember. Adams helped Jefferson and Madison with the big words. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 05:28 PM (QFxY5) So all those guys also helped write the Virginia constitution? Thank God for Yankees. Weak.

Posted by: James Madison at March 17, 2014 04:35 PM (0FSuD)

302 do Kosovo and it done to you

Posted by: Brad at March 17, 2014 04:56 PM (OpJLB)

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