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April 21, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (4-21-2014)
— Maetenloch

Pixy on the Democrats and Their Love for Totalitarian Iconography

The Hillary poster in particular seems to come from some weird alternate universe in which Eva Peron was an admiral of the Imperial Japanese navy.

"Shut Up Culture" Takes on Dissent Over Campus "Rape Culture"

So Cornell student Julius Kairey wrote a thoughtful, reasoned column in the campus newspaper pointing out how the movement to end 'rape culture' on campus has seriously eroded the due process rights of students.

But the belief that rape must be prevented by "any means necessary" has been used to justify the elimination of key protections for students accused of rape in campus judicial systems. Some want the claims of the alleged victims of rape to be accepted as true, and not scrutinized in a fair legal proceeding. Just two years ago, Cornell stripped those accused of sexual offenses of the right to retain an attorney in University proceedings and the right to cross-examine their accusers. A student accused of a sexual offense at Cornell is now not able to directly ask the person who is making a potentially life-ruining accusation a single question about the incident. This is an inexcusable erasure of the fundamental right to confront one's accuser, a right that has existed for all of our country's history. Such rights are not superfluous. They protect us against arbitrary action by those who hold the levers of power.

And outrage!! from the usual campus suspects ensued blaming Kairey for fomenting sexual assault as well as the newspaper for disrespecting rape survivors by having the temerity to even publish his trigger of a column:

We disagree with the decision to publish "The Truth About 'Rape Culture,'" by Julius Kairey '15. Kairey blatantly disrespected a sensitive subject by reducing and delegitimizing the scarring experiences of survivors. This newspaper erred in publishing this article and should now also take responsibility for the harmful, triggering effects that articles like these cause.

...Those, like Kairey, who have the power to create change by advocating for survivors instead choose to ignore their voices, erase their rights and refuse to hold perpetrators accountable..

Now to even disagree with those obsessed with 'rape culture' makes you a cheerleader for sexual assault as well as a common thought criminal.

Because Animal Rights Activists Hate NYC's Horse-Drawn Carriages

They've come up with this electric, truck-sized 'eCarriage' to replace it. It only travels at 5mph and costs a mere $150,000+.

At the New York Auto Show last week, a very large electric vehicle--effectively a larger-than-life electric scale model of a Brass Era touring car--was shown to the public by NYClass.
The animal-rights advocacy group has long advocated for the removal of horse-drawn carriages from Central Park on the grounds of animal cruelty.

It proposes that the 68 carriages now operating in and around the park be replaced with the so-called eCarriage, which would operate at 5 mph in the park, to replicate the open-air horse carriage experience for tourists as closely as possible--minus the clip-clop and the odor of horse manure.
The prototype electric car shown last Thursday is the size of a seven-passenger full-size SUV, seats eight, weighs 7,500 pounds, and rides on 26-inch truck tires. It uses a number of existing components from other vehicles, including the Ford F-450 heavy-duty commercial truck.

Kate Humble: We don't value food because it's not expensive enough

But of course one of the long proclaimed 'freedoms' of socialism was freedom from hunger. But then once food became plentiful and cheap, the new complaint becomes that we just don't appreciate it enough. Which is a big clue that it's really all about control and thinking the proper way.

Prager University: Jonah Goldberg Explains 'Social Justice'

And the noxious assumptions embedded into the term itself.

And fittingly Vox just published this article by Matt Yglesias: Beyond the Laffer Curve - the case for confiscatory taxation

Here he basically admits that it's not about the money - it's all about social engineering. And control.

The Laffer Curve - the idea that tax cuts can sometimes increase tax revenue - is one of the most influential and widely debated ideas in the past two generations of American politics. Beloved by the right and despised by the left, one thing that both sides have tended to agree on is that knowing what side of the curve we're on should be a key driver of tax policy.

But in an era of surging inequality, it's time to revisit that assumption. Maybe at least some taxes should be really high. Maybe even really really high. So high as to useless for revenue-raising purposes - but powerful for achieving other ends.

First Time in a Drive-Through Car Wash

Full disclosure: When I was very little (and normally fear-less) for some reason drive-thru care washes absolutely terrified me. I think it was a combination of the noise, shaking, and movement that convinced me that we were being attacked and eaten by robots or maybe possibly some kind of sea creature. More often than not I would end up in the back seat in tears attempting to curl up into the foot rest area.

In time I came to accept the car wash attacks and no longer fear them. These days I now use that time to check my email and toss trash into the backseat area. But I have to admit that every time I go through one the holy-shit-I'm-being-eaten part of my amygdala still twitches a bit.

Human Barbie is Kind of a Dumb Bitch

And yes thanks to modern materials and plastic surgery this is a real person.

And it turns out that Human Barbie, Valeria Lukyanova, believes you can subsist off of sunshine and air alone (Breatharianism) and is very concerned about racial miscegenation and mongrelization.

Ethnicities are mixing now, so there's degeneration, and it didn't used to be like that. Remember how many beautiful women there were in the 1950s and 1960s, without any surgery? And now, thanks to degeneration, we have this."

And no Human Ken Doll doesn't like her much either. He considers her an unserious dress-up-doll poseur as well as his arch-nemesis.

"She's a cute girl.I don't really get her. I don't get why people think she's so interesting. She has extensions. She wears stage makeup. She's an illusionist.Unlike me, who has spent nearly $150,000 permanently transforming myself into a human Ken doll, Valeria just plays dress up. But as soon as you wipe away all that makeup, she's just a plain Jane and there's absolutely nothing special about her."

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

Tonight's post brought to you by wasn't this a Twilight Zone episode:

And wouldn't make more sense for people to disappear while going through a drive-thru car wash? Those things are scary.

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 06:31 PM | Comments (392)
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1 Yo

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 06:32 PM (HVff2)

2 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 06:33 PM (T1005)

3 Yay! ONT!

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 06:33 PM (doBIb)

4 "triggering effects."

Fuck you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2014 06:34 PM (QFxY5)

5 Not first

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 21, 2014 06:34 PM (GEICT)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 21, 2014 06:35 PM (KCxzN)

7 I was hoping I would be first!

Posted by: Carol at April 21, 2014 06:35 PM (gjOCp)

8 and now I suck at first, too . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 06:36 PM (8lmkt)

9 Top. men.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 06:37 PM (JS0vr)

10 Tonight's post brought to you by wasn't this a Twilight Zone episode Weekly World News, right?

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2014 06:37 PM (AymDN)

11 "FOUR PEOPLE VANISH WITHOUT TRACE IN A PORTABLE TOILET!" Hey, why's everyone staring at me for.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 06:38 PM (30eLQ)

12 I once had my dog with me through a car wash. Labrador. Never again.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 06:38 PM (doBIb)

13 So, what does NCJ have to do with the missing outhouse users? I suspect they were at Solider Field & decided to end it all after the Packers won, again

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 06:38 PM (HVff2)

14 For those harridan harpies at Cornell

http://youtu.be/ZyhrYis509A

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 06:38 PM (DlqJm)

15 Good evening all. totally unplanned, but apparently I'm getting F'ing wasted tonight. Mr. Hat, prayers for you and yours. All my problems now seem petty after reading the previous thread.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 06:38 PM (rrKIh)

16 I would ask them to keep it real and get with the programme me but what programme could they possibly get with?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 21, 2014 06:40 PM (V4CBV)

17 The four missing from the portable toilets. So the CHUD now do sanitation work for Chicago?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 06:41 PM (DlqJm)

18 The portable toilet people eater. Cool, we need several all around Washington.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 21, 2014 06:41 PM (Zdgjo)

19 Mr. Hat, prayers for you and yours. All my problems now seem petty after reading the previous thread. Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 10:38 PM (rrKIh) TY. One of the things that makes the HQ so great is that there are people who actually care and aren't just a bunch of obsessed trolls.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2014 06:41 PM (AymDN)

20 Speaking of teh raep kultur... yeah, yeah it's not the book-thread but hey. I saw this at the Barnes ampersand Noble: http://www.amazon.com/Price-Silence-Lacrosse-Corruption-Universities/dp/1451681798/ It's getting the sh!t kicked out of it by the Amazon reviewers. 2 stars of 5. Apparently the whole case where the Duke players were falsely-accused by a violent madwoman is, in fact, a teachable moment about how Privileged the kids were. They could afford smart lawyers who could call her (and Nifong) on her bullshit. And that's bad! It might not have been "better" if the players had gone to PMITA prison, but it would have been more socially equitable.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 06:42 PM (30eLQ)

21 I only bitch and moan so the gods won't know I'm doing . . . .

*ZOT* *ZZZZZZZZZZ* *CRACKLE*

NO! Please I didn't mean it. My life sucks. it's terrible and awful and I hate it! Please leave me to my misery!!

.
.

*is it gone?*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 06:42 PM (JS0vr)

22 Maet, We really appreciate all the effort you put into the ONTs, but please don't start smother with pictures of SCOAMF & that Clinton woman. Eek!

Posted by: Carol at April 21, 2014 06:42 PM (gjOCp)

23 I'd also like to note that I somehow got #1 ranking for sock-puppeteers despite not commenting over the weekend. Oh well, if socking is a way to relieve stressÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat (or at least one of the many voices inside the head thereof) at April 21, 2014 06:43 PM (AymDN)

24 8Â and now I suck at first, too . . .Â Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 10:36 PM (8lmkt) ------- This is a new thing?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 06:43 PM (rrKIh)

25 23 Oh well, if socking is a way to relieve stressÂ… 99.7% of the time your socks crack me up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 06:45 PM (HVff2)

26 Gah, that "Ken" doll. I hate his face. He looks nothing like a Ken doll, and also I hate his face.

Posted by: sunny-dee at April 21, 2014 06:45 PM (bxdmt)

27 Empress Hirrohito

Posted by: Land of the Rising Slum at April 21, 2014 06:45 PM (wu/TK)

28 If you're a teenage boy and you try asking an older woman to prom, joyless hag Amanda Marcotte will accuse you of sexual harassment. http://tinyurl.com/me3gsmp Oh, and she still adores Bill Clinton. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2014 06:46 PM (WlWt+)

29 26 Gah, that "Ken" doll. I hate his face. He looks nothing like a Ken doll, and also I hate his face. Posted by: sunny-dee at April 21, 2014 10:45 PM (bxdmt) Racist

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 06:46 PM (HVff2)

30 I was never scared of the carwash, but every time we went through, I would spend the entire time yelling, "Aaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!" over the sound of it.

Posted by: Z Ryan at April 21, 2014 06:46 PM (fMK2m)

31 Hat, I don't know what's going on with you, just scoured the last thread, failed to find it but, my friend, if you need prayers, you got 'em. Always here for you, xoxo.

Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 06:46 PM (8lmkt)

32 I'm an uncommon thought criminal, the common thought criminals are over at Hot Air

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2014 06:46 PM (Aqvh6)

33 My ex-girfriend loved carwashes and would want to cuddle in them. She didn't like the joke that, "even though the women's magazine suggest making love in a carwash as a way to spice up your sex life, it is guaranteed to absolutely ruin a church youth group fundraiser."

Posted by: Kindltot at April 21, 2014 06:47 PM (SZM+L)

34 You've got to be shitting me. They left the hammer & sickle off?

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 06:47 PM (x3YFz)

35 just so you know if someone steals your identity and files a false 1040 with it you have to contact the police, the state attorney general, the FTC, the SS Administration, the IRS, the three credit reporting bureaus, your bank, your tax preparer the whole alphabet

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 06:47 PM (zOTsN)

Repost for certain morans. But also Grammie Winger's reference was absolutely accurate. So upon Christ's death on the cross, there is pagan non-Christian evidence not only of unnatural darkness but a massive earthquake throughout Judea that razed many structures. Cheers fellow morans!!

Troyriser, DLamp and anyone else interested in the contemporaneous pagan record of Christ's existence, here is the evidence of the very strangedarkness that fell after he died on the cross:

About the middle of the first century, roughly 50 AD, the pagan Thallus, in a fragment preserved by Julius Africanus, argued that the abnormal darkness that accompanied the death of Christ was a purely natural phenomena and coincidence...

This comes from the author William Durant, from the book Caesar and Christ, in his 11 volume series on the history of Western civilization (i.e., not written from a Christian defense or point of view), and appears to be sourced from Julius Philippus in Cicero, De off.

Will repost in ONT if this is not it. Cheers!!

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 06:47 PM (6HrmZ)

37 Land of the Rising Slum?

Thought Empress Vaginalope Jarret the Worst held sway there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 06:48 PM (DlqJm)

38 oh and on the horse drawn carriages? Liam Neeson had the temerity to say he thought they should stay so PETA is picketing his home in NYC

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 06:48 PM (zOTsN)

39 Don't most carwashes have cameras in them? You know, to see if it breaks down. I wouldn't do the dirty in one. Plus, you have, what?, like 60 seconds?

Posted by: Z Ryan at April 21, 2014 06:48 PM (fMK2m)

40 20 Speaking of teh raep kultur... yeah, yeah it's not the book-thread but hey. I saw this at the Barnes ampersand Noble: http://www.amazon.com/Price-Silence-Lacrosse-Corruption-Universities/dp/1451681798/ It's getting the sh!t kicked out of it by the Amazon reviewers. 2 stars of 5. Apparently the whole case where the Duke players were falsely-accused by a violent madwoman is, in fact, a teachable moment about how Privileged the kids were. They could afford smart lawyers who could call her (and Nifong) on her bullshit. And that's bad! It might not have been "better" if the players had gone to PMITA prison, but it would have been more socially equitable. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 10:42 PM (30eLQ) The calls for "Justice" are nothing more than a way for some group to try to settle some old score with someone who had nothing to do with the old score.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 06:48 PM (HxSXm)

41 Carol! I see you survived the marathon. Way to to go girl.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 21, 2014 06:48 PM (Q8vlx)

42 Guilty, until proven innocent.

Posted by: Cornell University at April 21, 2014 06:49 PM (Dwehj)

43 I wouldn't do the dirty in one. Plus, you have, what?, like 60 seconds? Posted by: Z Ryan at April 21, 2014 10:48 PM (fMK2m) Some people can do the dirty three times in that short span of time, so I hear.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2014 06:49 PM (WlWt+)

44 Have you seen hildebeast lately? She looks like someone dragged her behind an F-250 for about 3 miles. Which, in circumspect, would probably be an improvement.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 06:49 PM (x3YFz)

45 yikes Thunderb. I hope they catch who did it. Identity theft made me a fan of Islamic hudud vis-a-vis thieves. A few hundred scumbags with the new nickname "Stumpy" wouldn't cause me to shed tears

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 06:50 PM (30eLQ)

46 Taken on the whole, about the creepiest ONT commentary I've read.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2014 06:50 PM (aDwsi)

47 44 Hillary look's like nine miles of really bad road.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 21, 2014 06:50 PM (Q8vlx)

48 Would it be possible for someone accused of rape to sue the school and claim slander/libel if they don't provide the accuser's name? It seems to me that saying "we've been told by certain people that Mr. Smith is a rapist" when there was no accusation would be grounds for a lawsuit.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 06:51 PM (TNcMy)

49 39 Don't most carwashes have cameras in them? You know, to see if it breaks down. I wouldn't do the dirty in one. Plus, you have, what?, like 60 seconds? Posted by: Z Ryan at April 21, 2014 10:48 PM (fMK2m) Obviously you haven't been married for 30+ years

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 06:51 PM (HVff2)

50 Sounds to me like Cornell should have a campus-wide Chill Groove Break.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at April 21, 2014 06:51 PM (9F2c1)

51 Mike Hammer, and I bet that was before you clicked on Hat's link to his page.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2014 06:51 PM (Aqvh6)

52 Empress Hirrohito Posted by: Land of the Rising Slum at April 21, 2014 10:45 PM (wu/TK) Nah. The Emrpress PeronHito. Fortunately, we have a step up on Argentina. Our Hillllllary has started to embalm herself prior to her death.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 21, 2014 06:51 PM (SZM+L)

53 Peaches, #174.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 06:51 PM (rrKIh)

54 yep... prescient's still stupid http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/2661

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 06:51 PM (30eLQ)

55 It's not the nature of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge that really matters.

Posted by: Cornell University at April 21, 2014 06:52 PM (Dwehj)

56 Holy shit. That picture that they are using for Hillary in her poster has to be from a picture taken 15 years ago. That is like the female Realtors that still use a 20 year old "Glamour Shot" in their advertising. You think they are about 40, but when you see them they look 60.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 06:52 PM (HxSXm)

57 Evening all. Disney is really a world class operation. Professional all around, from the trash sweepers to the princess characters. My own Princess had saucer-eyes for a solid 80% of the time. But fuck me, I'm tired.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 21, 2014 06:52 PM (Pvcl5)

58 Guilty as charged by the victim.

No you can't question the victim.

No you can't present evidence that refutes the victim.

You can't investigate the victim.

You can't tell you side of the story.

The victim is a saint and you're a scum bag.

Victims don't lie.

Victims don't have ulterior motives.

Victims are pure and clean except for where you touched them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 06:52 PM (JS0vr)

59 Oh, Hat, I just found your heartbreaking post. I am so sorry . . . Prayers for you and your grandmother. {{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 06:53 PM (8lmkt)

60 Call me crazy but if I wanted to take a carriage ride, I'll hire a somebody with a horse and carriage. If I'm going to pay for a car ride, I'll hire a limo.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 21, 2014 06:53 PM (IV4od)

61 While I understand the surreal nature of most college campuses, why is sexual assault not being immediately referred to the local police instead of some kangaroo court.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2014 06:54 PM (Aqvh6)

62 But fuck me, I'm tired. Posted by: DC in Towson at April 21, 2014 10:52 PM (Pvcl5) And broke?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 06:54 PM (HVff2)

63 Would it be possible for someone accused of rape to sue the school and claim slander/libel if they don't provide the accuser's name? It seems to me that saying "we've been told by certain people that Mr. Smith is a rapist" when there was no accusation would be grounds for a lawsuit. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 10:51 PM (TNcMy) Kinda have to name the defendant. Right?

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 06:54 PM (x3YFz)

Boulder toilet hobo:

A quite aptly named fella. Cheers you skeptic you. Watch out for daffodils. That could be your grandma!!!!

hahahahahaha.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 06:55 PM (6HrmZ)

65 Victims don't lie. Victims don't have ulterior motives. Uhh...yeah...about that...

Posted by: Duke University, circa 2007 at April 21, 2014 06:55 PM (9F2c1)

66 56 Holy shit. That picture that they are using for Hillary in her poster has to be from a picture taken 15 years ago.
That is like the female Realtors that still use a 20 year old "Glamour Shot" in their advertising. You think they are about 40, but when you see them they look 60.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 10:52 PM (HxSXm)

I don't think she even looked that good 20 years ago. The last year or two she's really looked old and haggard. She's only 67 but it's an old 67.

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 21, 2014 06:55 PM (pAlYe)

67 Human Barbie? Yeah, she'll be doing pron in six months.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2014 06:55 PM (vn9w4)

68 Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2014 10:54 PM (Aqvh6)

Because then the victim might actually have to give *gasp* evidence of a crime and answer questions.

All of that demeans the victim and promotes rape.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 06:56 PM (JS0vr)

69 "Just two years ago, Cornell stripped those accused of sexual offenses of the right to retain an attorney in University proceedings and the right to cross-examine their accusers." Forgive my lack of legal knowledge, but how can Cornell just strip a 6th Amendment right of being able to confront your accuser? Guess what we should be telling guys on campus is to not engage in coitus at all. Pron is plentiful on the Internets...so I hear,

Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2014 06:56 PM (WlWt+)

70 Oh, Hat, I just found your heartbreaking post. I am so sorry . . . Prayers for you and your grandmother. {{{{{}}}}} Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 10:53 PM (8lmkt) Despite the linguistic barrier, I have little doubt that it will be felt.

Posted by: The Grateful Political Hat at April 21, 2014 06:56 PM (AymDN)

71 Kinda have to name the defendant. Right? Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 10:54 PM (x3YFz) The school is the defendant. They're the ones proclaiming that you're a rapist and making up a fake accuser to cover their ass. Oh, the accuser is real? Then prove it and provide a name?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 06:56 PM (TNcMy)

39 Don't most carwashes have cameras in them? You know, to see if it breaks down. I wouldn't do the dirty in one. Plus, you have, what?, like 60 seconds?

6.5 minutes if you get the De Luxe.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 21, 2014 06:56 PM (X3xYu)

73 For some reason the idea of a voracious and sinister portable toilet disturbs me more than the American Left's fondness for totalitarian iconography. I mean, think about it: four people missing, possibly swallowed up by a dimensional portal cleverly disguised as a common privy. Geez. I'm really sorry the Weekly World News went out of business. They had headlines about stuff like that all the time. And I never did find out what happened to Batboy.

Posted by: troyriser at April 21, 2014 06:56 PM (ptcFO)

74 Males must cease sex. (Good idea to avoid trouble on campus).

Posted by: Roseanne Barr at April 21, 2014 06:57 PM (WlWt+)

75 That poster of Hilary! reminds me what I told someone about Hilary's age being a factor "By the time the MSM is done photoshopping her, she'll look younger than Chelsea"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 06:57 PM (aTXUx)

76 orgive my lack of legal knowledge, but how can Cornell just strip a 6th Amendment right of being able to confront your accuser? The disciplinary committee isn't a government proceeding. It's the school's own private tribunal.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 06:57 PM (TNcMy)

77 Will repost in ONT if this is not it. Cheers!!

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 10:47 PM (6HrmZ)

++++

There's some question as to the authenticity of this ONT?

Posted by: Frito Bandito at April 21, 2014 06:57 PM (IN7k+)

78 Guess what we should be telling guys on campus is to not engage in coitus at all. Pron is plentiful on the Internets...so I hear, . Find the local girls college!

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 06:57 PM (doBIb)

79 I don't think she even looked that good 20 years ago. The last year or two she's really looked old and haggard. She's only 67 but it's an old 67. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at April 21, 2014 10:55 PM (pAlYe) I'm surprised with all of their money she doesn't have a complete remodel.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 06:57 PM (HVff2)

80 Kinda have to name the defendant. Right? Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 10:54 PM (x3YFz) The school is the defendant. They're the ones proclaiming that you're a rapist and making up a fake accuser to cover their ass. Oh, the accuser is real? Then prove it and provide a name? ____ well, that was the point: provide a name.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 06:58 PM (x3YFz)

81 Matt Yglesias: Beyond the Laffer Curve - the case for confiscatory taxation

======
in which Yglesias self identifies as a person that would cheerfully load millions of humans into the cattle cars and send them to their final destination.

Consider the phrase: "your own life." -- see the word 'own' in there, matty, you fucking dumbass? It is called 'your own life' because everyone is supposed to own theirs -- and you are not supposed to own anyone's life other than your own life. Get it? Nah, you are too fucking greedy and too fucking stupid to get it.

There are reasons why certain people are the voluntary new protagonists of the slavery party, and most of those reasons are ugly. matty is a truly disgusting, vile piece of shit.

Posted by: jc at April 21, 2014 06:58 PM (PlzOe)

82 More than half of all rape accusations are fake. Fun fact: if crazy and cruel people are handed a consequence-free tool that they can use to destroy the lives of their enemies -- they tend to use it. Most women would never lie about rape. But the ones that do, do it a lot. Cause there's no penalty.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 06:58 PM (ZPrif)

83 I mean, think about it: four people missing, possibly swallowed up by a dimensional portal cleverly disguised as a common privy. Geez. I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS!

Posted by: GLaDOS at April 21, 2014 06:58 PM (TNcMy)

84 Real life Barbie and Ken are total freaks.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 21, 2014 06:59 PM (mx5oN)

85 Who was keeping a watch on that Porta Potty so assiduously that they realized 4 people went in and no one came out?

Who is this person?

They didn't take their eyes off that toilet. Not once?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 06:59 PM (JS0vr)

86 I once had my dog with me through a car wash. Labrador. Never again. Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:38 PM (doBIb) My sister's Bugs (Pug/Boston Terrier cross) *love* the carwash. In a 'totally freak out and show it who's boss' kind of way, but still.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 21, 2014 06:59 PM (GDulk)

87 Rape accusations don't require sex. Celibacy is not a solution for males on college campuses. You cannot hide from militants who will lie just to destroy you - all in a vain attempt to kill their own internal pain.

Posted by: grognard at April 21, 2014 06:59 PM (t5lML)

88 ONT Open Thread Compliance Pic http://tinyurl.com/l32eq2u

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 06:59 PM (aTXUx)

89 Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 10:51 PM (TNcMy) Ummm... if it is RAPE... then why are not the Police Called? Why are they doing this on Campus? How do they have authority to deal with this??? They are NOT law Enforcement. How can they, for a Capital Crime... NOT allow you due process of Law???

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 06:59 PM (84gbM)

90 Despite the linguistic barrier, I have little doubt that it will be felt. Posted by: The Grateful Political Hat at April 21, 2014 10:56 PM (AymDN) prayers out.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:00 PM (x3YFz)

91 RE: Humble. In your soul of soul, you must realize that it is impossible to declare on is an ever expanding chain of victories for international communism without a holodomor. Marxism, where you have nothing to lose but your chains. When you starve to death in them, they at least are worth recovering from the mass graves.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 21, 2014 07:00 PM (SZM+L)

92 Good evening all. totally unplanned, but apparently I'm getting F'ing wasted tonight. Mr. Hat, prayers for you and yours. All my problems now seem petty after reading the previous thread. Posted by: shredded chi What happened w/ Mr. Hat?

Posted by: The Farmer at April 21, 2014 07:00 PM (eBupg)

93 Hat, wonderful grandmothers occupy a very special place in the general scheme of things. Mine have been gone for decades and I still think of them almost daily and am so thankful for the amazing blessing they were in my life. So, it touches me deeply to think about what you are going through and what you have ahead. I hope the family bs doesn't get too crazy, that's about all you can ask for at this point. I'm very sorry.

Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 07:00 PM (8lmkt)

94 83 I mean, think about it: four people missing, possibly swallowed up by a dimensional portal cleverly disguised as a common privy. Geez.

I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS! Posted by: GLaDOS at April 21, 2014 10:58 PM (TNcMy) Hide posts from (TNcMy)

*golf clap*

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 07:01 PM (T1005)

95 86 I once had my dog with me through a car wash. Labrador. Never again. Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:38 PM (doBIb) My sister's Bugs (Pug/Boston Terrier cross) *love* the carwash. In a 'totally freak out and show it who's boss' kind of way, but still. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 21, 2014 10:59 PM (GDulk) My dog lost it and had a psychotic break even before the pre-soak rinse. About destroyed the upholstery in the back seats. Never again!

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 07:01 PM (doBIb)

96 I'm surprised with all of their money she doesn't have a complete remodel.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 10:57 PM (HVff2)

The really scary thing is...maybe she did. And that's the best that could be done with what the docs had to work with.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2014 07:01 PM (vn9w4)

97 Plus, you have, what?, like 60 seconds?

Posted by: Z Ryan at April 21, 2014 10:48 PM (fMK2m)

That's why you go for the EXTENDED wash, with the wax and the dry at the end...

or so I've been told.

Evening roonz and roonettez, driveby break comment. Back later for lunchtime.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 21, 2014 07:01 PM (xa1/W)

98 prescient: you would do a better job at evangelising if you were using arguments that had actual merit. It took me about six seconds to google that rebuttal. It wouldn't take me much longer to google up more.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 07:02 PM (30eLQ)

99 Knew a girl who made a false rape accusation in college. I was dating her roommate. The dude was kicked out of school. No criminal charges since it was a total fucking lie. Just all of his family and friends learning he was kicked out of school for being a rapist. No life consequences there.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 07:02 PM (ZPrif)

100 Clinton Fun Fact:

Hillary Clinton blamed the sinking of the Battleship Yamato on a YouTube video.

Posted by: Fritz at April 21, 2014 07:02 PM (oJUxt)

101 88 ONT Open Thread Compliance Pic http://tinyurl.com/l32eq2u Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 10:59 PM (aTXUx) Nice.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 07:02 PM (doBIb)

102 The disciplinary committee isn't a government proceeding. It's the school's own private tribunal. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 10:57 PM (TNcMy) Ah, okay - got it.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 21, 2014 07:02 PM (WlWt+)

103 They are NOT law Enforcement. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 10:59 PM (84gbM) There's a fuzzy, but not indistinguishable line, between campus police and city police. They are LE from a protection standpoint regarding the students, but can't be arresting merrygoers.... It's a fine municipal line.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:03 PM (x3YFz)

104 87 Rape accusations don't require sex. Celibacy is not a solution for males on college campuses. You cannot hide from militants who will lie just to destroy you - all in a vain attempt to kill their own internal pain.
Posted by: grognard at April 21, 2014 10:59 PM (t5lML) Hide posts from (t5lML)

^^^This.

Once they decide to lie, why should they be burdened by having to start with a kernel of truth?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 07:03 PM (T1005)

105 wait, Z Ry is here? when did you get released?

kidding!!!! haven't seen you in ages. hope you are well . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 07:03 PM (8lmkt)

106 Hat: best you can do for Grammaw is see that she is comfortable and secure and any pain is mediated.

The other siblings need a smack and a wake up call.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:03 PM (JS0vr)

107 The really scary thing is...maybe she did. And that's the best that could be done with what the docs had to work with.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2014 11:01 PM (vn9w4)

Yeah. She was last sighted driving around a pest control van and walking with a distinct limp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnACpmrH108

Posted by: grognard at April 21, 2014 07:03 PM (t5lML)

108 Find the local girls college!
Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:57 PM (doBIb)

And wait until there's a kiln explosion. :-)

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 21, 2014 07:04 PM (pAlYe)

109 My dog lost it and had a psychotic break even before the pre-soak rinse. About destroyed the upholstery in the back seats. Never again! Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:01 PM (doBIb) Once had a male setter who didn't mind car washes, loved being vacuumed, had no fear of chain saws, lawn mowers & would ride for my miles on the back of my atv. His son, not so much

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:04 PM (HVff2)

110 Why are they doing this on Campus? How do they have authority to deal with this??? They are NOT law Enforcement. How can they, for a Capital Crime... NOT allow you due process of Law??? Because ultimately they're a private entity choosing whether or not to allow a person to remain a member of their organization. It's no different than if the local VFW voted to expel someone for misconduct. Whether or not the 'victim' wants to press charges through the legal system is a completely different matter.

Posted by: GLaDOS at April 21, 2014 07:05 PM (TNcMy)

111 They are LE from a protection standpoint regarding the students, but can't be arresting merrygoers.... It's a fine municipal line. Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 11:03 PM (x3YFz) But they are investigating Rape charges? Hmmm.... if they know about it, and do NOT inform Law Enforcement... isn't that a Conspiracy to Hide a Crime? And Conspiracy is a felony in and of itself.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 07:05 PM (84gbM)

112 And wait until there's a kiln explosion. :-) Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at April 21, 2014 11:04 PM Well played (golf clap)

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 21, 2014 07:06 PM (KCxzN)

113 But they are investigating Rape charges? Hmmm.... if they know about it, and do NOT inform Law Enforcement... isn't that a Conspiracy to Hide a Crime? And Conspiracy is a felony in and of itself. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 11:05 PM (84gbM) They shouldn't be investigating rape charges. Way beyond their jurisdiction once the act as occurred. Then it kicks off to the city or county.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:06 PM (x3YFz)

114 Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:01 PM (doBIb) Yikes!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 21, 2014 07:07 PM (GDulk)

115 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 10:57 PM (HVff2)

You know how sometimes you see an old classic in a yard somewhere but it's got thru and thru rust in the body pan and fenders, the engine is seized up and the upholstery is all torn up and been used for a chicken coop and the instrument cluseter is gone?

No one's rebuilding that sucker any time soon right?

Get my point?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:07 PM (JS0vr)

116

Boulder hobo,

Do you ever reflect, think for once, and then realize that your 7 second google and reliance on shitty sources which of course, beg the very question itself, may somehow not support your very biased, already arrived at conclusion??

In other words, open your mind and do some real fucking work. save the snark for someone else skippy, it simply undercuts any real "argument" you might have...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 07:07 PM (6HrmZ)

117 Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 11:05 PM (84gbM) Seems like private schools do this a lot, Marquette in Milwaukee has been dealing with this the past couple of years

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:08 PM (HVff2)

118 44 Have you seen hildebeast lately? She looks like someone dragged her behind an F-250 for about 3 milesÂ…. Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 10:49 PM (x3YFz) She's looked sickly for a while now.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 21, 2014 07:08 PM (ynL/v)

119 so, any of you intrepid lunatics ever take a cat through the carwash or is anyone with any information on that long carbon neutral?

Posted by: Peaches at April 21, 2014 07:08 PM (8lmkt)

120 It's the school's own private tribunal. Double-secret probation!

Posted by: Dean Wormer's Ghost at April 21, 2014 07:08 PM (Fp7JI)

121 Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at April 21, 2014 11:04 PM (pAlYe)

Now that's subtle.

Except around here probably not so much.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:08 PM (JS0vr)

122 Hmmm.... if they know about it, and do NOT inform Law Enforcement... isn't that a Conspiracy to Hide a Crime? And Conspiracy is a felony in and of itself. They'll argue that the victim didn't want it reported to the police and didn't want to pursue criminal charges.

Posted by: GLaDOS at April 21, 2014 07:08 PM (TNcMy)

123 116
Boulder hobo,

Do you ever reflect, think for once, and then realize that your 7 second google and reliance on shitty sources which of course, beg the very question itself, may somehow not support your very biased, already arrived at conclusion??

In other words, open your mind and do some real fucking work. save the snark for someone else skippy, it simply undercuts any real "argument" you might have... Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 11:07 PM (6HrmZ) Hide posts from (6HrmZ)

Did I just see something rear up on its hind legs and fault BTH for his scholarship?!?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 07:10 PM (T1005)

124 about the Hillary poster Puryear is also taking inspiration from propaganda posters, but by using a photograph, rather than illustration, it moves beyond its source. It mocks the Communist propaganda that was the inspiration. You can see the lines on ClintonÂ’s face, her eyelids are dropped a lit, she looks relaxed. She radiates warmth as much as power and intellect. SheÂ’s a human being, not an icon. Â“There is a twist to the Clinton image. But with Shepard Fairey, what you see is what you get what a load of mental masturbation she is "mocking" the communist propaganda? please

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 07:10 PM (zOTsN)

125 115 You know how sometimes you see an old classic in a yard somewhere but it's got thru and thru rust in the body pan and fenders, the engine is seized up and the upholstery is all torn up and been used for a chicken coop and the instrument cluseter is gone? No one's rebuilding that sucker any time soon right? Get my point? Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 11:07 PM (JS0vr) There is always one rookie kid in body shop school who wants to try :-)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:10 PM (HVff2)

126 I had a crazy chick, who I never even met, threaten my life. This was as a univ teacher. Was out of the blue. Campus police was 0 help. Contacted the FBI (it was across state lines). Campus police does.... uh.... zero except for stare at girls in yoga pants (I have a friend who runs campus police and he'll tell you exactly that).

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:12 PM (x3YFz)

127 "She's looked sickly for a while now." That's a real shame.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warrren at April 21, 2014 07:12 PM (l3vZN)

128 I needs to be said: I would do her.

Posted by: goatexchange at April 21, 2014 07:13 PM (sYUHT)

129 >>>And broke? Meh. Good shit ain't cheap, and cheap shit ain't good. It was worth every penny. Princess had such a huge smile the whole time, I'll never forget one second of it. Plus, we drove up to Tampa to see my best friend and meet their new kid. In short, don't confuse cost with value.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 21, 2014 07:13 PM (Pvcl5)

130 I wouldn't mind takeover ng my little mutt through a carwash just to see how he'd react - probably like an idiot. But he looks at "going for a ride" as a great adventure, which he loves & would be a treat. And that is something he doesn't get for the rest of the week. I came home in a shitty mood (for a few reasons), so started sucking on beers and went out to mow the front lawn today. Little fucker ate 10% of his bodyweight in cake while I was out there. Pulled a sealed Ziploc off the kitchen counter to get to it! I had one piece, he had four.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 07:13 PM (SzdFL)

131 @69 Forgive my lack of legal knowledge, but how can Cornell just strip a 6th Amendment right of being able to confront your accuser? -------------------- Because it's not an actual court case. It's the university's disciplinary group. They can't actually prosecute you. But they can expel you from the university, and publicize the reasons for doing so (though that last bit might require "accidental" leaks).

Posted by: junior at April 21, 2014 07:13 PM (Yxwtc)

132 That's a real shame. Posted by: Elizabeth Warrren at April 21, 2014 11:12 PM (l3vZN) ---------- And yet, she looks better than you, Fauxcohantas.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 07:14 PM (ojnk6)

133 I needs to be said: I would do her. Posted by: goatexchange at April 21, 2014 11:13 PM (sYUHT) No. You're not barreled. Not banned. Excommunicated, you are. Dead to me.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:14 PM (x3YFz)

134 Yeah. She was last sighted driving around a pest control van and walking with a distinct limp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnACpmrH108

Posted by: grognard at April 21, 2014 11:03 PM (t5lML)

You know, an insectoid alien wearing a Hillary! suit is...actually pretty plausible.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2014 07:14 PM (vn9w4)

135 61 While I understand the surreal nature of most college campuses, why is sexual assault not being immediately referred to the local police instead of some kangaroo court. Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2014 10:54 PM (Aqvh6) Exactly.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 21, 2014 07:14 PM (ynL/v)

136 "By the time the MSM is done photoshopping her, she'll look younger than Chelsea"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 10:57 PM (aTXUx)

------------------------

Photoshopping Hillary = Good

Photoshopping any other woman, ever = Evil

If only holding double standards resulted in instant death.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at April 21, 2014 07:14 PM (QTyrZ)

137 Any chance we can get Eric Holder to use that portable toilet?

Posted by: Blor-Utar at April 21, 2014 07:14 PM (2ofUQ)

138 Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 11:13 PM (SzdFL) Not too laugh but I've had counter surfers do that over the years. Bakery is tolerable, flesh is a different story

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:15 PM (HVff2)

139 They'll argue that the victim didn't want it reported to the police and didn't want to pursue criminal charges.
Posted by: GLaDOS at April 21, 2014 11:08 PM (TNcMy)

Some of the worst injustices have come from cases where the woman never reported anything to either the campus or local police and then filed a complaint months or years later.

In that case you have absolutely no physical evidence or contemporaneous accounts from witnesses. It's purely a he said/she said situation and the fact that she feels upset now is enough proof to convict him of something.

Posted by: Mætenloch at April 21, 2014 07:15 PM (pAlYe)

140 Wasn't Tacitus and Josephus, a better record than Durant 19 centuries later,

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at April 21, 2014 07:16 PM (Jsiw/)

141 65 Victims don't lie. Victims don't have ulterior motives. Uhh...yeah...about that... Posted by: Duke University, circa 2007 at April 21, 2014 10:55 PM (9F2c1) Also, women don't get pregnant on purpose to pressure a guy to marry them.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 21, 2014 07:16 PM (ynL/v)

142 Commies always out themselves. Control. Control. Control.

Posted by: eman at April 21, 2014 07:16 PM (AO9UG)

143 I don't think she even looked that good 20 years ago. The last year or two she's really looked old and haggard. She's only 67 but it's an old 67. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at April 21, 2014 10:55 PM (pAlYe) Oh hell no. She was boner killer juice back then, but some of the Realtor lasses were okay lookers 20 years ago when they had their glamour shots done at the mall. Shit, could you imagine being Bill, waking up on Christmas morning, running down to open your presents, and the one from Hillary was boudoir photos?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 07:17 PM (HxSXm)

144 I came home in a shitty mood (for a few reasons), so started sucking on beers and went out to mow the front lawn today. Little fucker ate 10% of his bodyweight in cake while I was out there. Pulled a sealed Ziploc off the kitchen counter to get to it! I had one piece, he had four. My dog is retarded. How retarded? He eats the cat's poops. He thinks they're a delicacy. He goes out in the backyard and hunts for them. Even the ones all crusted with pine needles.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 07:17 PM (doBIb)

145 TPH, just found your post on the previous thread; I really hate to hear that about your grandmother. I wish there was something I could say that eases the situation. Thoughts and prayers are with you and her.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2014 07:18 PM (vn9w4)

146 Oy, this Pens series with Columbus is going to give me an ulcer. They're up 2 games to 1 but barely. It would be nice to see Crosby and Malkin score a goal or two.

Posted by: puddleglum at April 21, 2014 07:18 PM (HpFuK)

147 130 I wouldn't mind takeover ng my little mutt through a carwash just to see how he'd react - probably like an idiot.

But he looks at "going for a ride" as a great adventure, which he loves & would be a treat. And that is something he doesn't get for the rest of the week.

I came home in a shitty mood (for a few reasons), so started sucking on beers and went out to mow the front lawn today. Little fucker ate 10% of his bodyweight in cake while I was out there. Pulled a sealed Ziploc off the kitchen counter to get to it! I had one piece, he had four. Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 11:13 PM (SzdFL) Hide posts from (SzdFL)

He'd probably get all excited for the novelty of the experience, but he'd lose interest in it if there were nobody to nip.

Hope it wasn't chocolate cake, or there's a good possibility you'll see it again.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 07:18 PM (T1005)

148 speaking of Frito Bandito... when i was little i had a frito bandito birthday party. everybody got official fritos frito bandito black cardboard mustaches to wear. i sneezed all over mine it tickled so much.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 21, 2014 07:18 PM (wvCkw)

149 good evening all

Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2014 07:18 PM (9GG/0)

150 In short, don't confuse cost with value. Posted by: DC in Towson at April 21, 2014 11:13 PM (Pvcl5) Did the Disney thing in October 2001, a month after 9/11. Yes, Disney is fun & well operated. But pricey and cost/value is subjective. Glad your family had fun

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:19 PM (HVff2)

151 the Archer season finale, returned the show to it's crazy roots,

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at April 21, 2014 07:19 PM (Jsiw/)

152 How retarded? He eats the cat's poops. He thinks they're a delicacy. He goes out in the backyard and hunts for them. Even the ones all crusted with pine needles.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:17 PM (doBIb)

++++

The heart wants what the heart wants.

Posted by: Turdy Allen at April 21, 2014 07:19 PM (IN7k+)

153 that case you have absolutely no physical evidence or contemporaneous accounts from witnesses. It's purely a he said/she said situation and the fact that she feels upset now is enough proof to convict him of something. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at April 21, 2014 11:15 PM (pAlYe) The "I was at a party 2 years ago and this guy with the NFL contract raped me" thing doesn't play well. Does it happen? shit, I have no idea. Never went to those parties. But if you're accosted, man the fuck up within 3 hours of crawling out of whatever shithole you found yourself in and report it.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:19 PM (x3YFz)

154 I really don't wear to see or hear anything about Shillary! I had FNC on for a few minutes tonight & saw part of a clip of her explaining The Vast Right Wing Conspiratory Theory! I put Nurse Jackie's episode on for next week on demand. She wasn't as old then, but time she was never an attractive woman. I'm going to say good night now,I've been up since 7, did my roots & spent over 8.5 hours outside pruning roses & trying to clean up leaves & crocus foliage. I filled four 30 gallon large leaf bags with dead rose canes. I'm about 80% done with pruning. I have roses to plant but can't because we have no water outside. I have irrigation system. I called early this morning to ask that owner of company that installed it to come here & turn water on. I used neighbor's water to soak roses. I was fine until I stopped & came in house. I'm ready to fall asleep, I have to call to have water on tomorrow because I'm having neck injection Friday & again on May 9. I won't be able to do anything outside this weekend. Good Night, Horde!

Posted by: Carol at April 21, 2014 07:20 PM (gjOCp)

155 Pretty soon most people will be getting their college education at home for the price of an internet connection. As soon as businesses wake up and realize the degrees they want to see are costing them money, and as soon as parents and kids wake up and refuse to pay for expensive rotten goods, the college system will collapse. Where will all the college assholes go after that?

Posted by: eman at April 21, 2014 07:21 PM (AO9UG)

156 Ever read House Atreides by Brian Herbert?

A prequel to the Dune Series by Frank Herbert.

In it is described the impregnation of Sister Mohiam by Baron Harkonnen so the BG can have Jessica born.

That scene is how I imagine Hillary and Bill getting together for Chelsea.

Once and once only and an unpleasant event for both.

I doubt if they were doing it at Yale either.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:21 PM (JS0vr)

157 good night Carol, sounds like you've earned a good night's rest tonight

Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2014 07:21 PM (9GG/0)

158 Some of the worst injustices have come from cases where the woman never reported anything to either the campus or local police and then filed a complaint months or years later. Yup. Like it or not, sexual assault cases are often messy and confusing. A legitimate victim may spend months or years avoiding the issue before they work up the courage to come forward with the accusation, by which point any physical evidence is long gone and it's a matter of accusation and counter-accusation. As painful as it may be, I think there need to be strict limitations on the ability of a person to bring up accusations of sexual assault after a period of time. It's better for the true victims in the long run.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 07:21 PM (TNcMy)

159 'Nite Carol good luck

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:22 PM (HVff2)

160 That picture of Hillary had to be done years ago.
Probably about the time she climbed Everest...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 21, 2014 07:22 PM (yagOO)

161 87 Rape accusations don't require sex. Celibacy is not a solution for males on college campuses. You cannot hide from militants who will lie just to destroy you - all in a vain attempt to kill their own internal pain. Posted by: grognard at April 21, 2014 10:59 PM (t5lML) True, just like all the fake hate crimes.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 21, 2014 07:22 PM (ynL/v)

162 Did any of the libs watch all of Evita? ...or do they just shut it off after the first hour?

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2014 07:23 PM (ZC2vt)

163 138 - MH The little fucker is spoiled rotten! (ask cthulhu, he's met him) I didn't even know he could reach that high. As soon as I walked into the house to get a fresh beer, I knew something was up, because he just ran past me out the back door. dude only weighs about 15lbs, but ate half a bundt cake. Can't say I blame him - that one piece I had was good.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 07:23 PM (SzdFL)

164 cthulhu: hang on for a moment . . . although, um, I'm flattered prescient: okay I won't snark. And I apologise for losing my temper. I do that too often when I see stuff like this (Aspergers Syndrome, or Asshole Syndrome; I've heard both). I do however need to point out: that when you are discussing historical events (here, of the Roman / Late-Antique Near East), you are discussing events which can be critiqued by use of the historical method. And I linked to one article that did that. There are some good arguments for the Christian kerygma. There are even better arguments for the Christian model for ordering a nation and its relationship to its most powerful religion. (Which is one reason I'm at this political site and not at, say, Islamic Awakening.) But just like I'd tread carefully when discussing - say - Jewish tradition when there are Jews about, as - at Ace's - there often are; you really should think hard when you are discussing the history of the Roman / Byzantine / post-Byzantine Near East when around people who've studied that stuff for however-long-it-is. I mean, you can do it. I love a good historical debate. But it has to be a GOOD historical debate.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 07:23 PM (30eLQ)

165 Simpler definition of "social justice": Revenge.

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2014 07:23 PM (sdi6R)

166 @113 They shouldn't be investigating rape charges. Way beyond their jurisdiction once the act as occurred. Then it kicks off to the city or county. ----------------------- They do, and they don't. They don't investigate it for criminal charges. That's the duty of the local law enforcement. They investigate it for things like "maintaining the school's good name and providing for the safety and security of our students." And because they're not a governmental organization, they're allowed to decide what rules and standards they use for the investigation and how to decide what punitive actions to carry out against the supposed perpetrator. And then you add to that things like some of these people are the same individuals who blatantly call for juries to ignore facts in favor of "social justice", and...

Posted by: junior at April 21, 2014 07:23 PM (Yxwtc)

167 Ducking sniper fire is excellent for your pores.

Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2014 07:23 PM (ZC2vt)

168 I've got a car question if anyone feels up for answering. I've been looking at 3.5L V6 Camry and a V4 Fusion recently. The Camry drives like a V6. The 1.5 Liter Ford V4 drives like...a V4. However, the 2.0 Liter Ford V4 feels like a V6. How is that possible? I got to drive the 1.5L and 2.0L Fords back to back so I could feel the difference between the right away. The Camry was a little while ago so I could be misremembering...

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 21, 2014 07:23 PM (M3hAT)

169 Oops, bad sock

Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 07:24 PM (M3hAT)

170 113 But they are investigating Rape charges? Hmmm.... if they know about it, and do NOT inform Law Enforcement... isn't that a Conspiracy to Hide a Crime? And Conspiracy is a felony in and of itself. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 11:05 PM (84gbM) They shouldn't be investigating rape charges. Way beyond their jurisdiction once the act as occurred. Then it kicks off to the city or county. Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 11:06 PM (x3YFz) Don't colleges have to report these things to the Sec of Education or something? I thought due to Title Whateverthefuck, that any rape or attacks on women have to be reported due to Federal $$$$$$$

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 07:24 PM (HxSXm)

171 You catch some photog that snaps a pic of hillabeast at an awkward moment? You'll never get it out of your head. She looks like... remember when you were a kid and you'd do those granny apples? You'd carve a face in an apple and let it sit in the sun and it would just peel back into a horrific face? That. X 20. The ugly tree fell on her and exacted its vengeance.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:24 PM (x3YFz)

172 143 I don't think she even looked that good 20 years ago. The last year or two she's really looked old and haggard. She's only 67 but it's an old 67.
Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at April 21, 2014 10:55 PM (pAlYe)

Oh hell no. She was boner killer juice back then, but some of the Realtor lasses were okay lookers 20 years ago when they had their glamour shots done at the mall.

Shit, could you imagine being Bill, waking up on Christmas morning, running down to open your presents, and the one from Hillary was boudoir photos? Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 11:17 PM (HxSXm) Hide posts from (HxSXm)

Well, considering that Hillary might well be giving Bill boudoir shots of other women.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 07:25 PM (T1005)

173 163 The little fucker is spoiled rotten! (ask cthulhu, he's met him) ---- Oh I believe you. I just found it funny. Been there :-)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:25 PM (HVff2)

174 The "I was at a party 2 years ago and this guy with the NFL contract raped me" thing doesn't play well. That was kinda my problem with the revelations against Singer as well. I saw "Apt Pupil"; I'm pretty sure I'd not let him be an assistant Scoutmaster. But whether he'd like to be a pedo and whether he is a pedo are two separate things. And false accusations just make it harder to convict for true ones.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 07:25 PM (30eLQ)

175 Help I'm steppin' into the Twilight Zone This place is a shithouse, smells like a fecal throne My paper's been moved under moon and star Where am I to go now that I've gone too far Soon you will come to know, someone peed upon the throne

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 21, 2014 07:25 PM (0AKks)

176 Oh, and while I was in Disney, we had a free upgrade from Avis, so we got a ragtop Mustang. Or, as Princess calls it, an "outside car". Sounds sweet, right? Wouldn't you know it, it was cloudy/rainy the whole time, and the damn car had speed governor on it at 80 MPH. Fucking weaksauce.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 21, 2014 07:26 PM (Pvcl5)

177 Hillary walks through the deep forests unafraid of the grizzly bears and mountain lions.

Posted by: eman at April 21, 2014 07:26 PM (AO9UG)

178 In it is described the impregnation of Sister Mohiam by Baron Harkonnen so the BG can have Jessica born. That was all done by the BG's hand. They were manipulating the bloodlines of the great houses to produce the Kwisatz Haderach. Jessica was supposed to bear a daughter to marry off to Baron Harkonnen. Sick! He was supposed to marry his granddaughter!

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 07:27 PM (doBIb)

179 Don't colleges have to report these things to the Sec of Education or something? I thought due to Title Whateverthefuck, that any rape or attacks on women have to be reported due to Federal $$$$$$$ Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 11:24 PM (HxSXm) they do push it up as a statistical thing, but not as a 'problem we need to solve' thing.

Posted by: tangonine at April 21, 2014 07:27 PM (x3YFz)

180 "Find the local girls college"

Yes! in the old days, that was what today would be called an "under-served community", with a campus motto of "Lights out at 11, candles out at 12."

Today...not so much.

Google "DareDorm"

Posted by: Hoes Я Us at April 21, 2014 07:28 PM (HFSaY)

181 Don't colleges have to report these things to the Sec of Education or something? I thought due to Title Whateverthefuck, that any rape or attacks on women have to be reported due to Federal $$$$$$$ Part of the problem is that the DoJ and Department of Education have demanded far looser standards of evidence than in a court of law. 50%+1, basically. A lot of this is to pad the count. If you have 100 accusations in a year, it doesn't matter that 90 of them were found to be bullshit. What gets reported is "90% of reported sexual assaults resulted in no punishment!" So the government and administrators have an incentive to do what they kind of wanted to do already, which is create these kangaroo courts.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 07:28 PM (TNcMy)

182 Creepy Lenin and Stalin pics. The USSR lives on.

Posted by: eman at April 21, 2014 07:28 PM (AO9UG)

183 The Camry drives like a V6. The 1.5 Liter Ford V4 drives like...a V4. However, the 2.0 Liter Ford V4 feels like a V6. ------------ Do you mean in terms of engine responsiveness? Power? Smoothness?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2014 07:28 PM (aDwsi)

184 Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:27 PM (doBIb)

Um. NO marriages in the BG.

And the scene is a rape by the Baron. But the Sister gets here revenge by making the Baron get fat.

It would be a hoot if the old slickster has a limp noodle these days. Blue pill or no.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:30 PM (JS0vr)

185 Michael Egan has filed a lawsuit against director Bryan Singer, saying he abused him when he was 17 years old in Hawaii and California In a shocking revelation Monday, Egan named Hollywood juggernauts Garth Ancier, David Neuman and Gary Goddard as additional abusers Ancier was a founding president of Fox entertainment at the age of just 28 in 1986 and went on to head up the entertainment divisions at the WB and NBC networks as well as BBC America Worldwide. One of the accused, Gary Goddard, is the head of an LA design firm The Goddard Group and has produced stage shows both on and off Broadway. The third accused man is former Disney TV head David Neuman, who the suit alleges hosted the sex parties in Encino where much of the assaults are alleged to have taken place. Neuman responded to the charges in a series of tweets Monday night, calling them 'completely false' and 'shocking Daily Mail

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 07:30 PM (zOTsN)

186 For the bottom of the poster:

Hillary 2016. Because seppuku.

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at April 21, 2014 07:30 PM (25HWz)

187 Vote for 20 years ago Hillary!!!!

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 07:30 PM (fsLdt)

188 Good evening, Horde. I have spent the day not talking due to the fact I haven't got a voice. Not uncommon after Holy Week but this came accompanied with a fever and sore throat. Wah. So I spent the day knitting and napping and sans pants.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 21, 2014 07:31 PM (N/cFh)

189 And wait until there's a kiln explosion. :-) Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch THAT'S NOT FUNNY!

Posted by: Zombie Fawn Leibovitz at April 21, 2014 07:31 PM (+1T7c)

190 Jessica was supposed to bear a daughter to marry off to Baron Harkonnen. Sick! He was supposed to marry his granddaughter! I thought the daughter was supposed to marry the Baron's nephew (the one Paul kills at the end of the book).

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 07:31 PM (TNcMy)

191 Who did nothing then either!!!!!

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 07:31 PM (fsLdt)

192 I'm pretty sure most libs could hum along with the songs, and think of a strong woman who captured the heart of a state dominating man, influenced a nation (snigger) and they think that she died loved, and happy, and that the dirty war was merely social justice and only a few outrages were committed. Oh, and the Falklands was a strike against colonialism.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 21, 2014 07:31 PM (SZM+L)

193 And Ford (or whoever they have making their engines) puts some pretty good four bangers in their trucks and cars.

Zippier than you'd expect and good mileage too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:31 PM (JS0vr)

194 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5603

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2014 07:31 PM (AymDN)

195 Ken doll is just jealous Barbie has a Malibu beach house and a convertible!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 21, 2014 07:33 PM (hn5v5)

196 184 Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:27 PM (doBIb) Um. NO marriages in the BG. And the scene is a rape by the Baron. But the Sister gets here revenge by making the Baron get fat. It would be a hoot if the old slickster has a limp noodle these days. Blue pill or no. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 11:30 PM (JS0vr) The child wasn't a BG sister, and Jessica wasn't one either by the time she and Leto hooked up. She was a concubine. The daughter of Duke Leto was supposed to seal the Atreides and Harkonnens together. Instead, Paul was born and became the KH.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 07:33 PM (doBIb)

197 Fawn Leibowitz was hot.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 07:33 PM (fsLdt)

198 Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 11:30 PM (zOTsN) They will do whatever needs to be done to make this go away.

Posted by: eman at April 21, 2014 07:33 PM (AO9UG)

199 I didn't know Ken doll looked like Keanu Reeves.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 21, 2014 07:33 PM (4Chvm)

200 Do you mean in terms of engine responsiveness? Power? Smoothness? *** Responsiveness and power. It took maybe 3s for the 1.5L Ford to "jump" when I floored the gas pedal. The 2.0L OTOH "jumped" in like 1s. All the Ford engines were smooth. Anyone own a new model Ford Fusion?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 07:34 PM (M3hAT)

201 so abusers headed entertainment divisions of Disney, Fox, WB, BBC and NBC nothing to see here

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

202 163 138 - MH

The little fucker is spoiled rotten! (ask cthulhu, he's met him)

I didn't even know he could reach that high. As soon as I walked into the house to get a fresh beer, I knew something was up, because he just ran past me out the back door.

dude only weighs about 15lbs, but ate half a bundt cake. Can't say I blame him - that one piece I had was good. Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 11:23 PM (SzdFL) Hide posts from (SzdFL)

He is a bit spoiled -- I think Chi lets him watch too many cartoons....'cause he freaked-out when I pantomimed doing a "sneak", even though it wasn't toward him or Chi.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 07:34 PM (T1005)

203 190 Jessica was supposed to bear a daughter to marry off to Baron Harkonnen. Sick! He was supposed to marry his granddaughter! I thought the daughter was supposed to marry the Baron's nephew (the one Paul kills at the end of the book). Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 21, 2014 11:31 PM (TNcMy) Maybe? I can't remember.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 07:34 PM (doBIb)

204 My dog is retarded. How retarded? He eats the cat's poops. He thinks they're a delicacy. He goes out in the backyard and hunts for them. Even the ones all crusted with pine needles. Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:17 PM (doBIb) They all do that. My golden goes out every morning and does a perimeter search of the property. Once and if she finds some deer shit, she is the happiest girl you have ever seen. Only time she is happier is if one of the cats has a hairball and she beats us to it. The other day it happened when I wasn't at home, and the wife had a headache, cat threw up hairball, wife said "fuck it, it's yours". Only time she has done it. Now that we have the 2 goldens, no way can we even get close to getting the furball up before they get it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 07:35 PM (HxSXm)

205 Get well soon, Gingy. Is Dave ok?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 07:36 PM (30eLQ)

206 Fawn Leibowitz was hot.

No, Fawn was dead.That was Shelly Dubinsky.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 21, 2014 07:36 PM (yagOO)

207 Good night, Misanthropic! I'm trying to stay awake to get clothes out of dryer. Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at April 21, 2014 07:36 PM (gjOCp)

208 and the head of entertainment at Nick is a perv, but he likes girls

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 07:36 PM (zOTsN)

209

BTH:

I'll stand down. Fair enough, my apologies if I get too pissed off, as a former atheist convert, I do want the most educated debate. And I do usually like your posts although we can tangle on special evolution all day.

But refer to the source you've cited. Even this "debunking" talks about events that occurred 32 AD. Now, the man who wrote literally 13000 pages of history of Western civilization and included also India, China and Japan, up to the 1930s on this, has stated that the author, Thallus, is trying to "explain away" these unnatural events after Christ's death.

Taking the historicity/critical approach, I'll refer to Mr. Durant's comment, and his many citations as to the historicity of Christ, something that intensely consumed Napoleon as well.

His basic conclusion was that our extant record provides far far more proof than even that of Julius Caesar, so if we believe that Caesar lived and died, then it's obvious that Christ lived and died.

Cheers!

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 07:36 PM (6HrmZ)

210 Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:33 PM (doBIb)

You're wrong but it's to involved to argue about as it's fiction.

If you didn't get my point then too bad.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:37 PM (JS0vr)

211 182 Creepy Lenin and Stalin pics. The USSR lives on. Claire says that they look great when displayed over the fireplace.

Posted by: Jay Carney at April 21, 2014 07:37 PM (2ofUQ)

212 205 Get well soon, Gingy. Is Dave ok? Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 11:36 PM (30eLQ) --- Thank you. He's fine.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 21, 2014 07:38 PM (N/cFh)

213 210 Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 11:33 PM (doBIb) You're wrong but it's to involved to argue about as it's fiction. If you didn't get my point then too bad. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 11:37 PM (JS0vr) Ok.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 07:38 PM (doBIb)

214 My youngest used to be terrified of car washes so I would volunteer to stay outside with her and wait for the rest of the family to go through. Cause they always freaked me out too.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 21, 2014 07:39 PM (4Chvm)

215 OK, I'll start practicing getting up at 0530 on Wednesday morning I'm out. Tomorrow night, mi migoes

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 21, 2014 07:40 PM (KCxzN)

216 Anyone own a new model Ford Fusion? Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 11:34 PM (M3hAT) -------# I have a 4 cylinder 2011 and love it. I choose them as rentals when I travel. Never an issue.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 07:41 PM (ojnk6)

217 Eeh gadz AJ practicing sucks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:41 PM (HVff2)

218 The spluge must flow!

Posted by: baron harkonnen at April 21, 2014 07:41 PM (hn5v5)

219 Nite Carol. Nite morons.x

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 21, 2014 07:41 PM (Q8vlx)

220 Hope it wasn't chocolate cake, or there's a good possibility you'll see it again. Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 11:18 PM (T1005) ---------- Nah. Mom calls it "Sock It To Me" cake. I just brought it home from Easter dinner last night. Fresh, moist, very good. Needless to say, he didn't get fed this evening. He's so bloated, I almost can't still be mad at him... this is just about as funny as the time we left him in the van for two minutes alone - the ex forgot she had just bought a pound of ground beef for taco night. He wasn't even a year old, but learned to love red meat. Good boy!

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 07:42 PM (SzdFL)

221 good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2014 07:42 PM (9GG/0)

222 Ah the 2nd duel of the evening averted

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:43 PM (HVff2)

223 Also, a Mercury Milan is a Fusion with a different brand/name. Usually cheaper.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 07:43 PM (ojnk6)

224

1,000 men need to accuse random women of sexual assault. According to the rules, the women will just have to accept the punishment and will not be able to ask the men any questions.

That should end that rather quickly...

Posted by: Dirk The Impailer at April 21, 2014 07:43 PM (pAnxr)

225 mmmm White Russian.

Posted by: buzzion at April 21, 2014 07:43 PM (LI48c)

226 so if we believe that Caesar lived and died, then it's obvious that Christ lived and died. Hey, now you're crossing the line. The Book of Allah clearly states, "they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him" /s But srsly now. That's where Carrier goes off the rails (in other work of his). He thinks Jesus never existed. In my agnostic opinion (and freakin' Bart Ehrman's agnostic opinion)... that's horseshit. For a start the epistle of 1 Peter doesn't make sense unless some people (starting with the author) thought that Jesus was the Christ and that he suffered and died. Ehrman tried to offer additional arguments against Carrier but unfortunately he seems to have lost his temper too.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 07:43 PM (30eLQ)

227 Well, considering that Hillary might well be giving Bill boudoir shots of other women..... Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 11:25 PM (T1005) You know those pictures would be stuck together too.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 07:43 PM (HxSXm)

228 Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy
Stacy: I may have had things in common with Stacy at the beginning, but
       thirty years of living her lifestyle taught me some very harsh
       lessons. Five husbands: Ken, Johnny, Joe, Dr. Colossus, Steve
       Austin --
Lisa: But if you can learn from Malibu Stacy's mistakes, so can
       everyone! I'm sure we can think of something together. Come on!
Stacy: Not now, I'm...to drunk.
***
Joe: Stacy, please, I must have you back. Just come for a ride with
       me in my Mobile Command Unit™.
Stacy: Joe, I told you, it's over. Release me from your Kung-Fu
       Grip™.
Joe: Fine. I'll bomb your house into the ground, missy.

Posted by: Z Ryan at April 21, 2014 07:44 PM (fMK2m)

229 Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 11:42 PM (SzdFL) Once had a Brittany spaniel get in to 3 boxes of chocolate covered cherries. My God what a mess

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:44 PM (HVff2)

230 Its not rape-rape if it gets you wet and you have an orgasim. Been there and done that, got the used condoms in my collection to prove it.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 21, 2014 07:45 PM (hpgw1)

231 A little OT, ut this IS an open thread: My daughter and I were just having a discussion about the actual shape of the earth. I suggested an obloid, or oblate sheroid, but this wasn't exactly correct. But I could not find an actual technical term for a pear-shaped solid. So I thought it was time that someone madeup one. I sugessted "hillaroid."

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 21, 2014 07:45 PM (8MjqI)

232 During the recent Carolina Ramble, the rental car was a Hyundai -- I think the Elantra....and, boy, did that car suck. I understand there are nice Hyundai models, but that wasn't one of them. No cruise control, C pillar artfully designed with oddly-oversized passenger head restraints to maximize blind spot, serious lag to acceleration (and not much when it did finally show), and the handling seemed to be all about "softening things up" instead of "accurately report and deal with actual road conditions."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 07:46 PM (T1005)

233 All the Ford engines were smooth. Anyone own a new model Ford Fusion? Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 11:34 PM (M3hAT) Got a V6 Explorer that replaced a V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee (FU auto bailout), and the Ford is just as responsive as the Jeep, gets better gas mileage, and is larger.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 07:46 PM (HxSXm)

234 Anyone own a new model Ford Fusion? Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 11:34 PM I drive an '08 Fusion...

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 21, 2014 07:46 PM (KCxzN)

235 So I thought it was time that someone madeup one. I sugessted "hillaroid." Sounds painful.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 07:48 PM (30eLQ)

236 201 so abusers headed entertainment divisions of Disney, Fox, WB, BBC and NBC nothing to see here Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 11:34 PM (zOTsN) Don't forget the Schneider dude over at Nickelodeon that is rumored to be screwing all the pre-teen female stars over there.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 07:48 PM (HxSXm)

237 223Â Also, a Mercury Milan is a Fusion with a different brand/name. Usually cheaper. Posted by:Â ManWithNoPartyÂ at April 21, 2014 11:43 PM (ojnk6) ------ I always thought the Mercury badge added money... was never a FoMoCo fan, so I guess I'm wrong.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 07:48 PM (SzdFL)

238 Sounds painful.
Not as painful as applying Constitution-H.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 21, 2014 07:49 PM (hn5v5)

239 Would you all say a prayer tonight. ....our dear friend Donn Majercik lost his battle with brain cancer tonight

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at April 21, 2014 07:49 PM (oKzyB)

240 Posted by: Dirk The Impailer at April 21, 2014 11:43 PM (pAnxr) Tovarisch, you obviously don't understand the rules!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 21, 2014 07:50 PM (o3MSL)

241 237 Depends ln the model, I guess. They do better advertising for the Ford brand, IMO.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 07:50 PM (ojnk6)

242 'sup what is it with communists/fascists/socialists and their shitty art?

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 07:51 PM (8OOTf)

243 I went and got a Ford Focus for reasons that also pertain to needing a new car and hating everyone else for expecting the taxpayer to pick up their slack, and I haven't been disappointed. It's a nice little car.

Posted by: Cato at April 21, 2014 07:52 PM (J+mig)

244

BTH:

Direct from the book Caesar and Christ:

"The oldest known mention of Christ in pagan literature is in a letter of the younger Pliny (ca 110), asking the advice of Trajan on the treatment of Christians. Five years later Tacitus described Nero's persecution of the Chrestiani in Rome, and pictured them as already (AD 64) numbering adherents throughout the Empire. Seutonius (AD 125) mentions the same persecution and reports Claudis' banishment (AD 52) of "Jews who, stirred up by Christ [impulsore Chresto], were causing public disturbances," the passage accords well with the Acts of the Apostles, which mentions a decree of Claudius that "the Jews should leave Rome."

I have many Jewish friends, one is the godfather of my first born son, yes I insisted... So don't think that I fail to respect the Jewish people or their incredible faith. They are God's chosen people after all. And the only original civilization that survives to today.

But so many prophecies have already been fulfilled. It is on me if I do not tell those who I like most what I know and believe. And the factual basis, as well as reason as well as faith, all leads back to the same path... Night fellow morans.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 07:52 PM (6HrmZ)

245 Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 11:51 PM (8OOTf)

lefties go for politics like religion.

Their art is their iconography. Idol worship.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 07:52 PM (JS0vr)

246 232 - cthulhu not to mention it was a 2014 car with no cruise control.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 07:52 PM (SzdFL)

247 Got a V6 Explorer that replaced a V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee (FU auto bailout), and the Ford is just as responsive as the Jeep, gets better gas mileage, and is larger. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 11:46 PM (HxSXm) get a jap or german vehicle, f*ck the UAW

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 07:53 PM (8OOTf)

248 lefties go for politics like religion. Their art is their iconography. Idol worship. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 11:52 PM (JS0vr) nice. Lets start calling their 'art' a golden cow...

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 07:54 PM (8OOTf)

249 235 So I thought it was time that someone madeup one. I sugessted "hillaroid." Sounds painful. 238 Sounds painful. Not as painful as applying Constitution-H. Regrettably, hillaroids have developed a resistance to even Constitution-H. This is one affliction you'll want to avoid contracting, period.

Posted by: Dr. C. Moore Butz, Protologist at April 21, 2014 07:54 PM (2ofUQ)

250 I wish Hillary! would embrace the Shut Up! culture and finally just please-oh-God just shut the fuck up.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 21, 2014 07:55 PM (tNrYO)

251 Good nite morons. To those with challenges I pray for Gods answers to be evident & that he blesses you. My life is pretty good now, but I know what it's like to be sunk. Be well, a long day on the road tomorrow. Fuck, that doesn't sound very misanthropic. Oh well, be well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 07:55 PM (HVff2)

252 Aw, heck, Westminster. So sorry to hear that. I think I'll take a break for a few, reflect, and say a few needed prayers. I might not be good at it, but I'm told they'll get through.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 07:57 PM (SzdFL)

253 rethinking it, I think it was a golden calf....

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 07:57 PM (8OOTf)

254 251 Good nite morons. To those with challenges I pray for Gods answers to be evident & that he blesses you. My life is pretty good now, but I know what it's like to be sunk. Be well, a long day on the road tomorrow. Fuck, that doesn't sound very misanthropic. Oh well, be well Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 11:55 PM (HVff2) Thanks, and don't worry: we hate you too!

Posted by: model_1066 at April 21, 2014 07:57 PM (tNrYO)

255 y'all know what haggis is right?

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 07:58 PM (8OOTf)

256 237 223 Also, a Mercury Milan is a Fusion with a different brand/name. Usually cheaper. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 11:43 PM (ojnk6) ------ I always thought the Mercury badge added money... was never a FoMoCo fan, so I guess I'm wrong. Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 11:48 PM (SzdFL) Mercury went the way of Oldsmobile and Pontiac about 6 years ago, but at that time it was between Ford and Lincoln. Now, all Lincolns are just pimped out Fords. I do miss the Farrah Fawcett Mercury Cougar ads of the 70's. She sure knew how to sell cars and shaving cream.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 07:59 PM (HxSXm)

257 237 223 Also, a Mercury Milan is a Fusion with a different brand/name. Usually cheaper.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 11:43 PM (ojnk6)
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I always thought the Mercury badge added money...
was never a FoMoCo fan, so I guess I'm wrong. Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 11:48 PM (SzdFL) Hide posts from (SzdFL)

Ford/Mercury have had "twins" for decades -- and, IIRC, Mercury was the premium brand in the 60s.....but in recent years, Mercury has been the Epiphone to Ford's Gibson.

It would be difficult for me to own another Ford -- I had a 1979 Mustang for college, and that POS went through two starters, a ring gear, a tranny (one repair place said that it had never been properly bolted to the frame), two carbs, a water-pump.....and it went through valve-cover gaskets like candy (valve covers and valve assemblies made of metals with different expansion coefficients -- 100 hot/cold cycles and it'd grind the gaskets to mush).

I replaced with a 1986 Nissan Sentra that was so stripped it didn't even have a radio -- cost $4,709 out-the-door -- but my down-payment and car payments for the first 12 months I owned the Sentra were less than the repair bills alone on the last 12 months I owned the Mustang.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:00 PM (T1005)

258 254 Thanks, and don't worry: we hate you too! Posted by: model_1066 at April 21, 2014 11:57 PM (tNrYO) :-) c'ya

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 08:00 PM (HVff2)

259 get a jap or german vehicle, f*ck the UAW Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 11:53 PM (8OOTf) I will only buy cars made by an American company. Scratch that, I will only buy cars made by an American company that wasn't bailed out, so Ford is my car of choice.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 08:01 PM (HxSXm)

260 239 Would you all say a prayer tonight. ....our dear friend Donn Majercik lost his battle with brain cancer tonight Posted by: westminsterdogshow at April 21, 2014 11:49 PM (oKzyB) Hide posts from (oKzyB)

Prayers for him and for you. Did he have family?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:02 PM (T1005)

261 >>>"The oldest known mention of Christ in pagan literature is in a letter of the younger Pliny (ca 110), asking the advice of Trajan on the treatment of Christians. ---------- Josephus mentioned followers of Jesus and the death of his brother James before 100 AD.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2014 08:02 PM (FITsd)

262 Ironic that Hillary is looking to the right. Somebody dun goofed.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 08:03 PM (fsLdt)

263

Cicero:

Does Josephus count as "pagan" though? I don't think so?

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 08:04 PM (6HrmZ)

264 Prayer said, Westminster...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 08:05 PM (6HrmZ)

265 Okay, you got me on a technicality. Josephus was Jewish.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2014 08:05 PM (FITsd)

266 get a jap or german vehicle, f*ck the UAW Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 11:53 PM (8OOTf) Little Jetta turned ten this month. Pro-tip - the engineering is sound, but don't have Bambi's dad run into you within two weeks of driving it off the lot. Tends to make the electrical screwy.

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 08:05 PM (QeH9j)

267 Those Hillary! and Obama posters are pretty fucking creepy.

Posted by: Car Wash Kid at April 21, 2014 08:06 PM (PAplM)

268 There needs to be a site with a larger scope that Newsbusters which aggregates all the stupid quotes not just from MSNBC, but also the garbage that just falls out of the brains of Klein, Weigel, Brooks, Friedman, Krugman and the rest of the anointed idiots. That way we can point and laugh without giving them the traffic.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 21, 2014 08:06 PM (HLprW)

269 But he was a loyal Roman who fought against the Jewish rebels in 66 AD.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2014 08:06 PM (FITsd)

270 Prayer said, Westminster... Posted by: prescient11 at April 22, 2014 12:05 AM (6HrmZ) Thoughts and prayers

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2014 08:07 PM (AymDN)

271 Ironic that Hillary is looking to the right. Somebody dun goofed. Keeping an eye on her enemies.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 21, 2014 08:08 PM (0AKks)

272 Keeping an eye on her enemies. And the Japanese war flag..... Makes sense.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 08:09 PM (fsLdt)

273 Ford/Mercury have had "twins" for decades -- and, IIRC, Mercury was the premium brand in the 60s.....but in recent years, Mercury has been the Epiphone to Ford's Gibson. It would be difficult for me to own another Ford -- I had a 1979 Mustang for college, and that POS went through two starters, a ring gear, a tranny (one repair place said that it had never been properly bolted to the frame), two carbs, a water-pump.....and it went through valve-cover gaskets like candy (valve covers and valve assemblies made of metals with different expansion coefficients -- 100 hot/cold cycles and it'd grind the gaskets to mush). I replaced with a 1986 Nissan Sentra that was so stripped it didn't even have a radio -- cost $4,709 out-the-door -- but my down-payment and car payments for the first 12 months I owned the Sentra were less than the repair bills alone on the last 12 months I owned the Mustang. Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 12:00 AM (T1005) The problem with your Mustang is that it was a car built in the 70's and early 80's. They were all shit. Honda, Toyota and Datsun were still building econoshitboxes, and the US manufacturers were about to embark on the greatness that was the K-Car.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 08:10 PM (HxSXm)

274 You just know she's rockin' some pretty sweet yoga pants with that turtleneck too.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 21, 2014 08:10 PM (HLprW)

275 Night all.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 21, 2014 08:11 PM (AymDN)

276 274 You just know she's rockin' some pretty sweet yoga pants with that turtleneck too.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 22, 2014 12:10 AM (HLprW)

I vote for an embarrelling for this.

Posted by: buzzion at April 21, 2014 08:11 PM (LI48c)

277 70s-80s cars made in Detroit deserved to have their asses kicked for much inferior product. Management .& Uaw sure hurt the greater good. As a guy who has driven gun for 40 years I'm ready to switch non Uaw vehicle, leaning honda & !toyota trucks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 08:11 PM (HVff2)

278 get a jap or german vehicle, f*ck the UAW

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 11:53 PM (8OOTf)

yeah, I'm actually having a struggle with that one lately. I need a new car and would like to buy American, but it don't seem to actually help America these days, just it's enemies. Anybody know anything about the mazda 6? I drove one today and it was pretty frigging nice. I don't have any idea of their reliability.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 21, 2014 08:11 PM (FMbng)

279 What can I say? I'm a giver.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 21, 2014 08:12 PM (HLprW)

280 Hillaroids? Constitution-H? I sense an internet meme in the making.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2014 08:12 PM (vn9w4)

281 Ok good nite again the melatonin & ambien is kicking in woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 08:13 PM (HVff2)

282 I vote for an embarrelling for this. Posted by: buzzion at April 22, 2014 12:11 AM (LI48c) --------- I'll go with this. It would look like a white kitchen can bag full of oatmeal.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 08:13 PM (ojnk6)

283 And with that, I'm off to bed...fully expecting to see teh twatters exploding with Hillaroid-themed pics tomorrow.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2014 08:14 PM (vn9w4)

284 278 get a jap or german vehicle, f*ck the UAW

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 11:53 PM (8OOTf)

yeah, I'm actually having a struggle with that one lately. I need a new car and would like to buy American, but it don't seem to actually help America these days, just it's enemies. Anybody know anything about the mazda 6? I drove one today and it was pretty frigging nice. I don't have any idea of their reliability.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 22, 2014 12:11 AM (FMbng)

You want to buy American you'd probably want to go with a Honda or Toyota then. A lot of Hondas built in Ohio and Alabama, in non- union facilities. I worked at the engine plant for a while.

Posted by: buzzion at April 21, 2014 08:14 PM (LI48c)

285 >>>274 You just know she's rockin' some pretty sweet yoga pants with that turtleneck too. ---------- I'm picturing two black nylon tubes overstuffed with mashed potatoes. Mmm. Mashed potatoes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2014 08:14 PM (FITsd)

286 @17 Anna Puma: Didn't the leech guy snack on someone in a portable toilet in one of the early X-Files?

Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at April 21, 2014 08:16 PM (UMsIr)

287 273 Ford/Mercury have had "twins" for decades -- and, IIRC, Mercury was the premium brand in the 60s.....but in recent years, Mercury has been the Epiphone to Ford's Gibson.

It would be difficult for me to own another Ford -- I had a 1979 Mustang for college, and that POS went through two starters, a ring gear, a tranny (one repair place said that it had never been properly bolted to the frame), two carbs, a water-pump.....and it went through valve-cover gaskets like candy (valve covers and valve assemblies made of metals with different expansion coefficients -- 100 hot/cold cycles and it'd grind the gaskets to mush).

I replaced with a 1986 Nissan Sentra that was so stripped it didn't even have a radio -- cost $4,709 out-the-door -- but my down-payment and car payments for the first 12 months I owned the Sentra were less than the repair bills alone on the last 12 months I owned the Mustang.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 12:00 AM (T1005)

The problem with your Mustang is that it was a car built in the 70's and early 80's. They were all shit. Honda, Toyota and Datsun were still building econoshitboxes, and the US manufacturers were about to embark on the greatness that was the K-Car. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 22, 2014 12:10 AM (HxSXm) Hide posts from (HxSXm)

I don't know, my dad had a Nissan minipickup that went forever and ever about the same time....although he got a Chevy S-10 about 3 years later whose bed *dented* the first time he loaded plywood into it. I just think Detroit from about 1973 to 1986 was a very special place......that should probably have been nuked then to save us all a great deal of later aggravation.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:16 PM (T1005)

288 Scratch that, I will only buy cars made by an American company that wasn't bailed out, so Ford is my car of choice. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 22, 2014 12:01 AM (HxSXm) =UAW

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 08:17 PM (8OOTf)

289 Since we're talking cars . . . I've decided to get a Nissan Rogue. I'm not in love with the car, but it gives me the most safety features (back-up camera plus 360-view when parking, blind spot warning, rear motion detection, and lane drift warning) for the lowest price. I'm not getting heated seats, which I will really miss, but I wanted to keep the price down because I know I will need to replace my HVAC system later this year. The dealer gave me a car to drive over the weekend, and I like how it drives. It feels like it hugs the road and I like the growly sound it makes when it starts up. I also like the keyless entry and power liftgate. Funny story about selling my car. I was going to sell it to Carmax and got an appraisal from them last week that I thought was very generous considering my car's condition. In front of CarMax there is a small used car dealer with big signs saying "We beat CarMax's price. Get your money today. We'll give you $200 if we can't beat the CarMax price." so I thought, what the heck, I should check this out. The guy there said he would give me the CarMax price plus $200, so I sold them my car. While they were doing the paperwork, I started chatting with the owner of this outfit and mentioned that my parents own some commercial property and used to rent part of it to a used-car lot. Turns out this guy used to work for the dealer who rented from my parents. In fact, my parents' tenant was his uncle. Now, this tenant caused my parents endless grief for not paying his rent, getting arrested for running an illegal betting operation at the used-car lot, trying to sublet the lot without my parents' permission (and for more than his rent and pocketing the difference), etc. I asked the guy I was talking to, "You're not running the same operation your uncle did, are you?" "Oh no!," he assured me. I had been feeling somewhat guilty about selling my car for what he was giving me without disclosing all the needed repairs, but after finding out he was related to my parents' scumbag tenant, I didn't feel bad anymore.

Posted by: biancaneve at April 21, 2014 08:18 PM (2sR50)

290 284
278 get a jap or german vehicle, f*ck the UAW Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 11:53 PM (8OOTf) yeah, I'm actually having a struggle with that one lately. I need a new car and would like to buy American, but it don't seem to actually help America these days, just it's enemies. Anybody know anything about the mazda 6? I drove one today and it was pretty frigging nice. I don't have any idea of their reliability.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 22, 2014 12:11 AM (FMbng)

You want to buy American you'd probably want to go with a Honda or Toyota then. A lot of Hondas built in Ohio and Alabama, in non- union facilities. I worked at the engine plant for a while. Posted by: buzzion at April 22, 2014 12:14 AM (LI48c) Hide posts from (LI48c)

My Accord Wagon was built in Ohio, and it's still a great car 200,000+ miles later.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:18 PM (T1005)

291

If we're going to talk cars, please weep for the BMW M3. It literally had the purest, cleanest V8 engine ever made.

And it has been discontinued due to EPA regulations. Ok and with that good night. Archer still has kind of sucked this year...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 08:20 PM (6HrmZ)

292 290 284

278 get a jap or german vehicle, f*ck the UAW Posted by: haggis, it
is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 11:53 PM (8OOTf) yeah, I'm
actually having a struggle with that one lately. I need a new car and
would like to buy American, but it don't seem to actually help America
these days, just it's enemies. Anybody know anything about the mazda 6? I
drove one today and it was pretty frigging nice. I don't have any idea
of their reliability.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 22, 2014 12:11 AM (FMbng)

You want to buy American you'd probably want to go with a Honda or
Toyota then. A lot of Hondas built in Ohio and Alabama, in non- union
facilities. I worked at the engine plant for a while.

Posted by: buzzion at April 22, 2014 12:14 AM (LI48c)
Hide posts from (LI48c)

My Accord Wagon was built in Ohio, and it's still a great car 200,000+ miles later.
Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 12:18 AM (T1005) Hide posts from (T1005)

Wait a second -- buzzion might have built my engine!!! What time were you there?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:21 PM (T1005)

293 Wait a second -- buzzion might have built my engine!!! What time were you there?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 12:21 AM (T1005)

Well unless you're driving 100,000 miles a year, and it not a V-6 I did not build that.

Posted by: buzzion at April 21, 2014 08:22 PM (LI48c)

294 Peaches, are you still around? Got to the last thread, heard of your car woes, wanted to chime in.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 08:24 PM (noWW6)

295 Buy Canadian like Obama's buses!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 21, 2014 08:24 PM (hn5v5)

296 Folks have a 93 Toyota Avalon along with a Toyota 2013 Highlander. They got the 2013 after the 93 250k plus Camry finally sputtered out. And by sputter, i mean had some minor repair work needed. But the Highlander was a good fit for the grandkids.

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 08:25 PM (QeH9j)

297 Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mercedes are all made in the USA, in the South, by non UAW goons. Check the label of the vehicle. Work good. Last long time and fuck the UAW

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 08:25 PM (8OOTf)

298 293 Wait a second -- buzzion might have built my engine!!! What time were you there?
Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 12:21 AM (T1005)

Well unless you're driving 100,000 miles a year, and it not a V-6 I did not build that. Posted by: buzzion at April 22, 2014 12:22 AM (LI48c) Hide posts from (LI48c)

Nah, it's a '95 inline 4, VTEC.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:27 PM (T1005)

299 190 Same here. Honda Civic made in Marysville, Ohio has run great for 140,000 so far. Have to replace brake pads too often, but otherwise a great vehicle.

Posted by: Jim Wright, not zombie yet at April 21, 2014 08:28 PM (HubSo)

300 Does Josephus count as "pagan" though? I don't think so? There were plenty of Joe's contemporaries who would have cursed him as such . . . Personally, I think Joe was right in the long run. The Revolt was a disaster. The only reason it can't be called an "epic fail" is because it was a tragic fail.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 21, 2014 08:31 PM (30eLQ)

301 229 Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 11:42 PM (SzdFL) Once had a Brittany spaniel get in to 3 boxes of chocolate covered cherries. My God what a mess Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Imagine the mess when our 3 yo lab ate about 7 dozen sugar cookies. The damn cat opened the pocket doors that where supposed to prevent that. Bailey the dog had diarrhea for about a week after, dumbass.

Posted by: The Farmer at April 21, 2014 08:31 PM (eBupg)

302 You want to buy American you'd probably want to go with a Honda or Toyota then. A lot of Hondas built in Ohio and Alabama, in non- union facilities. I worked at the engine plant for a while.

Posted by: buzzion at April 22, 2014 12:14 AM (LI48c)

Hmm, good point. Although, I would probably lean on Acura over the honda. We have 2 acuras now, and even the newer ones I test drove seem to drive better than the new hondas. The honda has a floaty feeling on the road, but the acura seems way more precise. The wife's TL has 262K miles on it and still runs great, but I'm sensing a dark future with it on the horizon, so its time.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 21, 2014 08:32 PM (FMbng)

303 Where does Mazda fit in the spectrum? I need to haul a full size bass violin. That is a deciding factor. I like the Ford Flex for that.

Posted by: navybrat at April 21, 2014 08:35 PM (JgC5a)

304 302 Never owned an Acura, but a friend of my ex who was an Acura dealer said it was the easiest job in the world. All you had to do was get people to take a test drive. But I love my Honda.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 21, 2014 08:36 PM (HubSo)

305 299 190 Same here. Honda Civic made in Marysville, Ohio has run great for 140,000 so far. Have to replace brake pads too often, but otherwise a great vehicle.
Posted by: Jim Wright, not zombie yet at April 22, 2014 12:28 AM (HubSo) Hide posts from (HubSo)

I can't say the car is perfect -- the rear hatch sensor that turns on the rearmost overhead light has never worked properly (I've always had to keep the On/Auto/Off light-switch on "Off") -- but I've had this car for damned-near 20 years.

Extra fun -- when I bought it, I wanted a Honda Accord EX Wagon with a stick. I'd done research, I'd looked at options, my mind was set. Looked around for a bit.....couldn't find any. Finally called Honda. When I bought my car, there were only 14 in the state (California emissions requirements made "in state" and "out-of-state" important). I visited the white one in San Bruno and the white one in Santa Cruz, and I think I visited a beige one in San Jose....the one I really would have liked was the green one in Chico. But I ended up using my credit union's fleet buying plan and buying a beige one in SLO, sight unseen.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:39 PM (T1005)

306 acrua= sooper honda lexus= sooper toyota

Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 21, 2014 08:40 PM (8OOTf)

307

Ok, I stayed up to see any Bimmer M3 comments.

This is the Josephus who arguably sold out his people? And does it strike anyone as ironic that a man named Judas is the one that finally led the successful revolt?

Finally, mazzel tov (sp?) means "may your planets be favorable" Fun fact for the day. Ok really, good night!!

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 08:41 PM (6HrmZ)

308 306 acrua= sooper honda
lexus= sooper toyota Posted by: haggis, it is what is for supper at April 22, 2014 12:40 AM (8OOTf) Hide posts from (8OOTf)

If you've got a Honda VTEC engine, it's built for Acuras....if your Acura doesn't have a VTEC engine, it's a dolled-up Honda.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:43 PM (T1005)

309 prescient11 at April 22, 2014 12:41 AM (6HrmZ) ----- Dude! Current conversation is about cars. WTF?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 08:43 PM (ojnk6)

310 Once had a Brittany spaniel get in to 3 boxes of chocolate covered cherries. My God what a messÂ Posted by: Misanthropic HumanitarianÂ Imagine the mess when our 3 yo lab ate about 7 dozen sugar cookies. The damn cat opened the pocket doors that where supposed to prevent that. Bailey the dog had diarrhea for about a week after, dumbass.Â Posted by:Â The FarmerÂ at April 22, 2014 12:31 AM (eBupg) ---------- And who was talking about the dog eating catpoop? Ok - this will be my last on this topic, and i should give a *GROSS WARNING, but when StinkButt (an actual nickname) ate that pound of ground beef, it ended up in four piles on the kitchen floor later that night. It was green. I had to walk away from it. Argued with ex over who should clean it up for quite a while... By the time we went in there to clean, three of the piles were gone.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 08:46 PM (8Samq)

311 Commies gotta commie.

And apparently mixing plastic and human is ok but not black and white?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 08:48 PM (DL2i+)

312 239 Would you all say a prayer tonight. ....our dear friend Donn Majercik lost his battle with brain cancer tonight Posted by: westminsterdogshow Will do, certainly. And I'm also praying for my friends Dave & Judy. He just called and said his daughter and granddaughter are dead. The granddaughter had brittle bone disease, suffered all her 12 yo life. Then her mother was diagnosed w/ some rare hardening skin disease. Both in much pain all the time. Dave called tonight and apparently the mother killed her daughter and herself. It's so sad. Please if you pray keep them in mind, I know they are in extreme pain. I talked to Dave, but I don't know what else to do other than to pray for them and ask others to do so.

Posted by: The Farmer at April 21, 2014 08:49 PM (eBupg)

313 310 Once had a Brittany spaniel get in to 3 boxes of chocolate covered cherries. My God what a mess
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Imagine the mess when our 3 yo lab ate about 7 dozen sugar cookies. The damn cat opened the pocket doors that where supposed to prevent that. Bailey the dog had diarrhea for about a week after, dumbass.

Posted by: The Farmer at April 22, 2014 12:31 AM (eBupg)
----------
And who was talking about the dog eating catpoop?

Ok - this will be my last on this topic, and i should give a *GROSS WARNING, but when StinkButt (an actual nickname) ate that pound of ground beef, it ended up in four piles on the kitchen floor later that night. It was green.
I had to walk away from it. Argued with ex over who should clean it up for quite a while...

By the time we went in there to clean, three of the piles were gone. Posted by: shredded chi at April 22, 2014 12:46 AM (8Samq) Hide posts from (8Samq)

Ground beef and sugar cookies were problematic, but they were at least heading in the right direction (maybe twice).....but I'm thinking the chocolates probably got marked "return to sender".

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:50 PM (T1005)

314 For Cornell to eliminate 'rape culture' the only way is female only, and there will be no possibility of rape. Well, outsiders...ok so you will have to put up a wall around campus and guards on the gates. No males, no rape. Problem solved.

Posted by: Williams the Youngest at April 21, 2014 08:52 PM (BhHy0)

315 @ Cthulhu: Ye almost got a girl name after ya. http://preview.tinyurl.com/mtyeatp

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2014 08:54 PM (M9BzG)

316 312 239 Would you all say a prayer tonight. ....our dear friend Donn Majercik lost his battle with brain cancer tonight
Posted by: westminsterdogshow

Will do, certainly.

And I'm also praying for my friends Dave & Judy. He just called and said his daughter and granddaughter are dead.

The granddaughter had brittle bone disease, suffered all her 12 yo life. Then her mother was diagnosed w/ some rare hardening skin disease. Both in much pain all the time.

Dave called tonight and apparently the mother killed her daughter and herself. It's so sad.

Please if you pray keep them in mind, I know they are in extreme pain. I talked to Dave, but I don't know what else to do other than to pray for them and ask others to do so.
Posted by: The Farmer at April 22, 2014 12:49 AM (eBupg) Hide posts from (eBupg)

Oh, Farmer!!!!!

If you're nearby, you could just go and sit with them, but oh what a heavy weight.

brb.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 08:54 PM (T1005)

317 Oh, Farmer! Just, damn. I can only try to send prayers for that poor family. But I will try.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 08:57 PM (8Samq)

318 Hmm, good point. Although, I would probably lean on Acura over the honda. We have 2 acuras now, and even the newer ones I test drove seem to drive better than the new hondas. The honda has a floaty feeling on the road, but the acura seems way more precise. The wife's TL has 262K miles on it and still runs great, but I'm sensing a dark future with it on the horizon, so its time. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 22, 2014 12:32 AM (FMbng) That's what happened to me. Stuff just didn't start seeming right on the old Jeep, but when I pressed the brake pedal down and it went to the floor, and the car took forever to slow down, I figured something was wrong, and with the heat, a couple of windows, and the door locks not all working, we decided it was time to replace. When we pulled in to the dealership to sign the papers, the radiator finally decided it was time to burst open. There was a lot of satisfaction knowing that I would not have to pay to have that fixed.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 08:57 PM (HxSXm)

319 Hmm, good point. Although, I would probably lean on Acura
over the honda. We have 2 acuras now, and even the newer ones I test
drove seem to drive better than the new hondas. The honda has a floaty
feeling on the road, but the acura seems way more precise. The wife's TL has 262K miles on it and still runs great, but I'm sensing a dark future with it on the horizon, so its time.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 22, 2014 12:32 AM (FMbng)

Built in the same plants using the same engines. In fact while I was there there were only 3 variations on the Honda/Acura V-6 engine block. And the only reason that there were 3 is because they were making changes to one of them to have some additional ports.

Posted by: buzzion at April 21, 2014 08:58 PM (LI48c)

320 Please if you pray keep them in mind, I know they are in extreme pain. I talked to Dave, but I don't know what else to do other than to pray for them and ask others to do so. Posted by: The Farmer at April 22, 2014 12:49 AM (eBupg) I don't know what to say, and I will be praying for all of them tonight.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 08:59 PM (HxSXm)

321 I've been driving a 1991 Toyota Corolla wagon for 15 years, but it's time to replace it. It runs fine, but the body is rotting away. I definitely want a non-UAW car. My own Toyota was built in Japan, but I know a lot of "foreign" cars are built in the US nowadays. I have some ironclad criteria: 1. It must have the same cargo capacity as the Corolla wagon, but it can't be too high off the ground. My cargo ramps are sized for my current car, and I wouldn't want to have them angled too steep. 2. It must be a stick shift. Beyond that, I would strongly prefer manual windows and door locks. I distrust a lot of that electronic shit. It's just more expensive stuff that can break. I'm probably going to bed soon, but I'd appreciate any suggestions. Oh, used cars only. I'm not planning on buying new.

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2014 09:00 PM (sdi6R)

322 "Dave called tonight and apparently the mother killed her daughter and herself. " At times like this, words are inadequate. I will pray for the comfort and solace of those who live another day, through this.

Posted by: navybrat at April 21, 2014 09:01 PM (JgC5a)

323 Ground beef and sugar cookies were problematic, but they were at least heading in the right direction (maybe twice).....but I'm thinking the chocolates probably got marked "return to sender". Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 12:50 AM (T1005) Chocolate usually results in "express delivery" and not return to sender.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 09:01 PM (HxSXm)

324 There are no words for that. Will offer up some prayers as well.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 21, 2014 09:02 PM (M9BzG)

325 323 Ground beef and sugar cookies were problematic, but they were at least heading in the right direction (maybe twice).....but I'm thinking the chocolates probably got marked "return to sender".
Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 12:50 AM (T1005)

Chocolate usually results in "express delivery" and not return to sender. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 22, 2014 01:01 AM (HxSXm) Hide posts from (HxSXm)

Just shows you can learn something new about "canine postage" every day.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 09:03 PM (T1005)

326 So very sorry to hear that. Jesus. Prayers and thoughts for all of those affected.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 21, 2014 09:04 PM (6HrmZ)

327 I have some ironclad criteria:Â ---- rickl, it sounds to me like you're in the market for a 1983 AMC Eagle wagon. No, i'm not making fun of you - if I could find one tomorrow, I would own it. I saw one on eBay recently with only 47k miles. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go finish this cry.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 09:07 PM (8Samq)

328 Sorry to hear about your Grandmother and the family situation Hat. Personally I had a terrible relationship with my mean as a snake grandmother and she passed away suddenly when I was out of the Country. I miss her though. Lately all my extended family is gone and I've realized how much I missed compared to "normal" families. She's lucky you care for her and you are lucky to have her. Do the best you can for her and don't be afraid to push around a family member who doesn't have her best interests at heart. I've learned that from experience. I'll say a prayer.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 09:07 PM (BtDfQ)

329 I have a Honda Civic that my son rode home from the hospital in after he was born. He now drives it. Funny that....... 1996 with 299,000 miles on it. The body is starting to go but it runs like a top.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 21, 2014 09:08 PM (jucos)

330 Farmer, prayers for your friends. I've seen both conditions and can say they are indeed both painful and crippling and without hope. I'm always especially horrified when a parent take's a child's life though. I can't quite process that. It goes against my, well, everything. It is just so sad. At least they will suffer no more.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 09:15 PM (OEwif)

331 168 I've got a car question if anyone feels up for answering.
I've been looking at 3.5L V6 Camry and a V4 Fusion recently.
The Camry drives like a V6. The 1.5 Liter Ford V4 drives like...a V4. However, the 2.0 Liter Ford V4 feels like a V6.
How is that possible? I got to drive the 1.5L and 2.0L Fords back to back so I could feel the difference between the right away. The Camry was a little while ago so I could be misremembering...
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 21, 2014 11:23 PM (M3hAT)

I just checked in so I might be behind on this, but my Fusion 4-cylinder feels like a V6 because a) it's so light, b) it's a 6-speed automatic so it's a smooth transition, and c) it's a 2-liter so it has enough power to move. It's a blast to drive.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at April 21, 2014 09:16 PM (pl1y3)

332 D'oH! Focus, not Fusion.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at April 21, 2014 09:17 PM (pl1y3)

333 Guess I don't have much to say tonight. Huh.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 21, 2014 09:23 PM (Pvcl5)

334 Anyone driving a 1992 Mustang? It's a 50% chance I painted the tail light. Glad I moved on from that job.

Posted by: Up With People at April 21, 2014 09:28 PM (pf+hU)

335 I have a car question also if anyone is still here. I need a SUV or Truck to haul stuff in but it needs to get decent mileage because I have to drive a couple of hours into Austin and elsewhere a few times a month. I'm looking at three used trucks: 1998 Explorer v-6 SOCH, 98 Pathfinder 2WD and 1994 Ford Ranger. The Ranger should get the best mileage but I know nothing about them other than they blow head gaskets and I want something that will last 5-8 years. I had a ford F100 that was one of the best vehicles I ever had. Anyone?

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 09:32 PM (4G9um)

336 A little levity, perhaps? Rodney Dangerfield on Carson: http://tinyurl.com/mucnokv

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 09:36 PM (8Samq)

337 Anyone? Posted by: Daybrother at April 22, 2014 01:32 AM (4G9um) All 3 are good, but you might want to go with the Ranger. I still see a shitton of them on the road around here. The Explorer might be your second choice only because those two models were really popular and most salvage yards will have a whole lot of them in the yard for spare parts.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 09:38 PM (HxSXm)

338 336 A little levity, perhaps?

Rodney Dangerfield on Carson:
http://tinyurl.com/mucnokv Posted by: shredded chi at April 22, 2014 01:36 AM (8Samq) Hide posts from (8Samq)

I don't know about levity, but I was working to tee-up another free-association topic before I was silenced by thinking about Farmer's friends.

And, BTW, you have mail -- which one do you read?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 09:40 PM (T1005)

339 Daybrother, I'm certainly no expert, but I've owned two explorers, and the transmission blew up in both. Admittedly, I only paid $400 for the '92, and it lasted a year. That thing was basically a rolling toolbox to me. but i only had the '98 a few months, and it was a nice truck, but trans took a shit &I lost my ass. I'd go for the Nissan & never think twice.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 09:43 PM (8Samq)

340 Seriously, what cultural/evolutionary function makes people think: permanent disfigurement= sexually arousing? Ken and Barbie. Good Lord. I have the same problem with most tattoos and piercings. Foot binding on the other hand... hawt. I've always wanted a wife whose broken little feet make it impossible for her to perform even the simplest house work. What man doesn't have that fantasy?... I'll see myself out.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 21, 2014 09:49 PM (LiHKo)

341 Posted by: Daybrother at April 22, 2014 01:32 AM (4G9um) Buy a 16 year old used truck Needs to do 500 miles minimum a month Needs to get great mileage Needs to haul shit Needs to last 8 years Can't need maintenance more than once a year ?????? A Miracle happens! Seriously, the Pathfinder will probably get the best mileage, be the most reliable, and it'll haul the shit you need to Austin

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 09:50 PM (aTXUx)

342 I don't know about levity, but I was working to tee-up another free-association topic before I was silenced by thinking about Farmer's friends. And, BTW, you have mail -- which one do you read? Posted by: cthulhu at April 22, 2014 01:40 AM (T1005) ---------- I read both a couple times a day. I know what you mean - Hailey will be twelve in about two weeks, so that hit me in the gut. Still coming to grips with all that. The ex has turned from just being a royal bitch to now being intentionally malevolent. I doubt I'll ever see those kids again. At least not until they get old enough to seek me out.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 09:50 PM (8Samq)

343 On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. H. L. Mencken Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/h_l_mencken.html#4zq7mX3V8PegZHKi.99

Posted by: George Tirebiter at April 21, 2014 09:50 PM (91kn2)

344 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac ---- Thanks. The Ranger is the best deal and supposed to get 20-22mpg but as I said I have read they blow gaskets in the heat. The Explorer is in perfect shape and I actually lean toward it a bit more but don't want 16 mpg driving from the Hill country to Houston for 250 bucks also it has a new engine with an old transmission and I've heard they eat transmissions. Heard anything about their mileage and transmissions? Some say they get better mileage than that. I've always heard that Pathfinders were comfy and reliable but it is distant third choice. This is going to be my utility truck and I can't justify the expense of something less than 10 years old.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 09:51 PM (tDaH9)

345 I still have the 94 Bronco that I ain't using right now

Posted by: OJ Simpson at April 21, 2014 09:52 PM (aTXUx)

346 Â The Explorer might be your second choice only because those two models were really popular and most salvage yards will have a whole lot of them in the yard for spare parts. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 22, 2014 01:38 AM (HxSXm) ---------- I bet none of them have a decent transmission in it

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 09:53 PM (8Samq)

347 Squirrel interrupts Phillies-Rockies game in Denver http://tinyurl.com/lh2ahq5

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 09:57 PM (aTXUx)

348 So, lamely and shell-shocked -- this last trip, I discovered the joys of pottery in Seagrove, NC. There's a museum there and a boatload of potters, and as you drive around, you can seriously see sections where a gang of guys must have ripped into the side of a stream-bed to take out blocks of clay.

It must be a bitch-and-a-half to grow tomatoes in this slime, so local landowners keep pulling chunks of the landscape out, cleaning all the bugs, worms, coffee-grounds, twigs, and roots out.....then slappin' 'em, turnin' 'em, gloppin' 'em around, and firin' 'em (although all the techniques discussed at the museum would probably have the EPA wetting themselves in a panic and it looks like everyone now uses electric kilns).

There was a lot to admire, but I had to fly back on an airplane so I only bought one piece, a small tile with a cicada that is much like this bumblebee that's currently on the website (but more colorful) -- http://tinyurl.com/lcacdl9 . You will note the strong art nouveau / arts + crafts influences, and it certainly doesn't hurt that the artist is cute and personable, as I can attest. Overall, however, it is fascinating that there is an ordinary house, and in the back is a workshop, and in this workshop is a kiln and racks of clay going in and clay coming out, with a little display area. The kiln is about 4' across and 4' high. That's it.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 09:58 PM (T1005)

349

My condolences Mr Hat, its tough to see people you love dearly in the final stage of life.

Posted by: Gmac at April 21, 2014 10:00 PM (4pjhs)

350 I drove so many cars in the last month its all a blur. Drove a new charger, it was nice inside, had lots of room, and was pretty big car. Just not trusting the reliability, and it would suck in the snow.

Drove the KIA optima, by far the most impressive interior, everything laid out great, drove nice, had good power and trans shifted nice. Looked great, but under it all lurks a frigging recycled beer can. The hood felt like I could fold it. Brakes seemed a tad weak.

The chrysler 200 was a little missile with its 283HP V6. It was amazingly quiet inside, rode nice, handled nice, and they were practically giving them away, but again there is the reliability thing.

Infinity G37. Damn nice, but pricey.

Mercedes CLA...yeah enough about that.

Mazda 6. Damn impressive. Wish it had a little more power, but was nice with a stick. Overall I could see owning that one. Was damn fun to drive. The hood felt pretty heavy, so it seems to made out of some decent gauge metal. Incredible gas mileage at almost 40mpg

Acura TSX. Very nice, but pisses me off the fucking thing with a 4cyl costs as much as a hemi challenger. 30k for something with a 4cyl is just retarded.

Acura RDX. very nice, but pricey, and not the greatest mpg.

Volkswagon jetta. meh...nice but kind of plain. The diesel had nice torque, but I'm not going to buy a frigging diesel.

Volkswagon passat. yeah, not interested in anything that sounds like pissant.

The wife drove some lexus hybrid just for shits and giggles. She said it was the most dangerous piece of fucking shit she ever sat in. It almost got her killed trying to pull out on the highway because it had zero acceleration.

Its been a hell of a month.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 21, 2014 10:01 PM (FMbng)

351 Daybrother, since you're looking for a truck that's a minimum of 16 years old and since it's Texas no doubt is high mileage, the best thing you can do whatever truck you buy is to invest in a good tool kit and a few classes in automotive repair, and a Chilton's manual Also get in good terms with your NAPA, Autozone, or Pep Boys store managers

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 10:01 PM (aTXUx)

352 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 22, 2014 02:01 AM (FMbng) Buy an Audi A4 or A6 and call it a day If you want to die but don't want to know how until the MSM can't hold the secret anymore, buy a Caddy or Chevy

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 10:05 PM (aTXUx)

353 thanks shredded chi. That is good first hand advice. kbdabear I know it sounds stupid but I've actually owned a truck that hauled heavy crap for over twenty years and never really stopped till I sold it cause the oil pump went wonky. Had another that I paid $300 for and it served me without fail for 8 years. They are out there. I 'm just trying to get general information while I decide. I know nothing personally about Explorers, Rangers and Pathfinders other than what I read on the net. I appreciate everyones' advice and opinion.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 10:05 PM (XBOlr)

354 Farmer, prayers for your friends. I've seen both conditions and can say they are indeed both painful and crippling and without hope. I'm always especially horrified when a parent take's a child's life though. I can't quite process that. It goes against my, well, everything. It is just so sad. At least they will suffer no more. Posted by: Daybrother at April 22, 2014 01:15 TY for your thoughts, they are very similar to mine. For Dave & Judy to have to deal w/ this just makes me so sad. I could on about recent loss, I'm trying to get that done and past. We all have to deal death in our own ways. I'm afraid that esp for Dave these deaths might lead to real decline in his health. Sorry to ramble, this has thrown me for a loop. T

Posted by: The Farmer at April 21, 2014 10:09 PM (eBupg)

355 I used to get a kick out of imagining taking my cat on the Tower of Terror at Disneyworld.

Posted by: Alana at April 21, 2014 10:10 PM (gdiBW)

356 Here he basically admits that it's not about the money - it's all about the control and social engineering. We had that figured out a long time ago...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 21, 2014 10:14 PM (jOKH1)

357 Guys need to start accusing campus women of rape. That will fix it.

Posted by: pawn at April 21, 2014 10:18 PM (KlYu1)

358 Sorry to ramble, this has thrown me for a loop. T Posted by: The Farmer Understood. Got a prayer for you too. The dead move on and leave us behind to live.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 10:19 PM (vsWPl)

359 navybrat, I am carrying an upright bass in a Ford Escape but the neck sticks a little bit over the center console. Also it is 3/4, not full size. The only way to know is to put it in the car before you buy it.

Posted by: FOAF at April 21, 2014 10:29 PM (rZ7kp)

360 Buy an Audi A4 or A6 and call it a day

If you want to die but don't want to know how until the MSM can't hold the secret anymore, buy a Caddy or Chevy

Posted by: kbdabear at April 22, 2014 02:05 AM (aTXUx)

I thought about the A4, a tad pricey but not too bad seeing its in the acura ballpark price wise. Haven't gotten around to that one yet. From what I hear it isn't as reliable as acura, and costs way more to fix, but who knows. Its suppose to be a real nice driver though.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 21, 2014 10:32 PM (FMbng)

361 Farmer, don't even say you're sorry - I don't know you, Dave or Judy, but it's thrown me for a loop, too. Probably a lot of us. Just be there for your friends if you can.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 10:35 PM (8Samq)

362 348Â So, lamely and shell-shocked -- this last trip, I discovered the joys of pottery in Seagrove, NC... -cthulhu ---------- Look, I'm pretty drunk here, so the last thing I need is a mental picture of you and some Patrick Swayze wannabe recreating a scene from Ghost...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 10:40 PM (8Samq)

363 So, lamely and shell-shocked -- this last trip, I discovered the joys of pottery in Seagrove, NC...
-cthulhu
----------
Look, I'm pretty drunk here, so the last thing I need is a mental picture of you and some Patrick Swayze wannabe recreating a scene from Ghost...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 22, 2014 02:40 AM (8Samq)

Somewhere in hell a man card whimpers and burns brightly.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 21, 2014 10:48 PM (FMbng)

364 363 So, lamely and shell-shocked -- this last trip, I discovered the joys of pottery in Seagrove, NC...

-cthulhu

----------

Look, I'm pretty drunk here, so the last thing I need is a mental
picture of you and some Patrick Swayze wannabe recreating a scene from
Ghost...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 22, 2014 02:40 AM (8Samq)

Somewhere in hell a man card whimpers and burns brightly.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 22, 2014 02:48 AM (FMbng) Hide posts from (FMbng)

I'm shell-shocked by trying to empathize with folks who have just lost a daughter and granddaughter under such circumstances. When it comes to man-card issues, I draw your attention to: "You will note the strong art nouveau / arts + crafts influences, and it certainly doesn't hurt that the artist is cute and personable, as I can attest."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 11:16 PM (T1005)

365 Understood. Got a prayer for you too. The dead move on and leave us behind to live. Posted by: Daybrother at April 22, 2014 02:19 AM (vsWPl) So true. Thanks for being such a good friend here tonight. And thanks to others who responded. I know Dave & Judy will be bolstered by your prayers. T

Posted by: The Farmer at April 21, 2014 11:19 PM (eBupg)

366

360 In my experience you are exactly correct

I would never get an audi or a saab acura will make you smile

Posted by: MAx at April 21, 2014 11:24 PM (b7yum)

367 May those in pain be healed and comforted ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 21, 2014 11:34 PM (qoKTg)

368 I'm not a Moron - no elephant sightings - but I am pretty stupid, and that makes me pissed off about having my Republic stolen in slowmo right in front of my eyes. So here's what I want all y'all to do: Give Hillary! a few weeks to become completely identified with that image. Then flood the tubes with this: http://tinyurl.com/mr8e8g3 It could help.

Posted by: phunctor at April 21, 2014 11:39 PM (Hy2qH)

369 I'm crawling into bed soon.

Everything is so scrambled. I hope things are clearer in the morning.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 21, 2014 11:44 PM (T1005)

370 Good night, cooth ... Good Morning, when you rise ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 21, 2014 11:50 PM (qoKTg)

371 Give Hillary! a few weeks to become completely identified with that image. Then flood the tubes with this: http://tinyurl.com/mr8e8g3 It could help. Posted by: phunctor at April 22, 2014 03:39 AM (Hy2qH) Do it side by side.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 21, 2014 11:50 PM (TL3bt)

372 Durant had something interesting to say about the bible as well. In considering whether the bible, the new testament events were made up, his take was, for a group of people or even one person to craft such a perfect document/religion, especially given the frailties, such as Christ asking God why he was forsaken, is more improbable then if every word of the bible were absolutely true.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at April 22, 2014 12:19 AM (syknG)

373 " is more improbable then if every word of the bible were absolutely true."

No one can force you to be a believer in Christ. What I have found in my experiences is that the non believers just can't abide the fact that there are believers.

Thus the questioning of each and every word in the Bible. Something the non Christian would never do with the quran.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at April 22, 2014 12:37 AM (nkPV9)

374 I have a 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe, with a bumper-to-bumper 10 year warranty. Only 35,000 miles on it. I have properly maintained it, it runs great. The dealer where I bought it is absolutely begging me to trade it in for a 2014 model. I'm 3 payments away from owning the 2008, I want to see what life is like without a car payment.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 22, 2014 01:00 AM (Q3tFF)

375 Durant had something interesting to say about the bible as well. In considering whether the bible, the new testament events were made up, his take was, for a group of people or even one person to craft such a perfect document/religion, especially given the frailties, such as Christ asking God why he was forsaken, is more improbable then if every word of the bible were absolutely true. Posted by: Auntie Doodles
.................
You might want to read up on the Council of Nicea... The New Testament wasn't exactly formed out of thin air by God, you know.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2014 01:09 AM (b/lt+)

376 I have a 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe, with a bumper-to-bumper 10 year warranty. Only 35,000 miles on it.
...........
I have a 2004 Santa Fe with 160,000 miles on it.. I've been car payment free for 5 years, and it's still running.. although it is starting to show its age.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2014 01:10 AM (b/lt+)

377 374 I have a 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe, with a bumper-to-bumper 10 year warranty. Only 35,000 miles on it. I have properly maintained it, it runs great. The dealer where I bought it is absolutely begging me to trade it in for a 2014 model. I'm 3 payments away from owning the 2008, I want to see what life is like without a car payment. Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 22, 2014 05:00 AM (Q3tFF) That's one of the keys to true financial independence. Run it, til the doors fall off.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 22, 2014 01:17 AM (TL3bt)

378 373 GMB, The reason most Atheist Heroes don't rectal exam Jihadi Jim's faith is he kills folk o'er it... I asked Hrothgar to apply a learning algorithm to the lesson Christianity is being taught by the left...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 01:49 AM (TE35l)

379 375 Chit Town Geraldo, Plaintiff's Exhibit One

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 01:50 AM (TE35l)

380 And the lesson can be applied in soooo many areas: violence works.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 22, 2014 01:53 AM (JS0vr)

381 Well, except against the Jews. But they're hard cases from way back.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 22, 2014 01:58 AM (JS0vr)

382 380 Biter Clinger, Generation Pajama Boy ain't gonna like the post Western Civ World he thinks he wants.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 02:32 AM (TE35l)

383 Hey there Chi-Town Jerry! Just wanted to say thanks for the tip on Sobelman's in MKE. Took the Navy's newest sailor and her entourage there and had some good food and local beer. A good time was had by all.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 22, 2014 02:48 AM (60Vyp)

384 "The reason most Atheist Heroes don't rectal exam Jihadi Jim's faith is he kills folk o'er it..."

That could explain why I have never seen news coverage of a homosexual pride parade in Riyadh.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at April 22, 2014 03:00 AM (nkPV9)

385 Passed out last night trying to find out what people were talking about with Hat's grandmother. Found the messages this morning. Trying to search for "political hat" won't work on AoSHQ's socklist-topping Bartholomew Cubbins. Had to search on " hat" which brings up Capt Hate, among other things. The wonders of modern communication! Howdy, people. New thread up.

Posted by: mindful webworker - up at the usual hour for a change at April 22, 2014 03:01 AM (WQhht)

386 "Rape culture"? I thought that to the left, all cultures are equally valid.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 22, 2014 03:01 AM (tNrYO)

387 The council of nicea was deciding which manuscripts that were already in existence and widely circulated to include, they weren't making up new ones. I wasn't even making the argument on whether I agreed with the statement. I was offering the info in response to something someone above said concerning Durant. But either way, did you need to respond like such a prat?

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at April 22, 2014 03:30 AM (syknG)

388 I find it funny that "Vox" has no comment capability. This allows the writer to maintain a bubble environment where they never have to be exposed to alternate ideas. I propose the "Compliance Curve". This principle states that as taxes increase, there comes a point where the effect is indistinguishable from prohibition, and the item taxed goes "underground". You can see this effect by the amount of tobacco products smuggled into New York. I think it works for most things progressives want to tax heavily.

Posted by: Dogbert at April 22, 2014 05:13 AM (oKVs5)

389 I find it funny that "Vox" has no comment capability. This allows the writer to maintain a bubble environment where they never have to be exposed to alternate ideas. I propose the "Compliance Curve". This principle states that as taxes increase, there comes a point where the effect is indistinguishable from prohibition, and the item taxed goes "underground". You can see this effect by the amount of tobacco products smuggled into New York. I think it works for most things progressives want to tax heavily.

Posted by: Dogbert at April 22, 2014 05:13 AM (oKVs5)

390 "rape culture" = more word salad

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 22, 2014 06:47 AM (HEo6y)

391 RE: No. 350, Berserker:

If you're looking at cars like an Audi A4 or Acura TSX, you might want to inspect the Buick Regal. This is not the bland consumer-mobile of the '90s or 2000s, now. The Regal is based on the Euro Opel Insignia. I bought one this January. Solid, tight car with good handling and mpg.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 22, 2014 07:54 AM (+1Uyl)

392 The Hillary profile poster is a direct knock off of the Lenin/Stalin profile shots that used to be standard in the Soviet Union.

Posted by: bildung at April 22, 2014 08:06 AM (riOeb)

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