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March 02, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (3-2-2014)
— Maetenloch

Are NOT the Koch brothers contrary to what every Democratic hack will tell you.

In fact the Koch brothers don't even appear until position #59 - which means that UPS and the National Beer Wholesalers Association give twice what the K Bros do to the GOP yet get almost none of the irrational lefty hate.

Remembering Congressman Ronald Reagan

"It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so."

-- Ronald Reagan

Obama-MSM Complex vs Sarah Palin on Russia Invading the Ukraine

Advantage: Palin

Mass Murder Almost Always Means Mohammed is Involved Somehow

You'll be shocked shocked to learn that the attackers who hacked 29 people to death in a Chinese train station have something in common with most group mass killers around the world.

Patient States He Was Experiencing an Itchy Rectum

And inserted a remote control to scratch. From What Did We Get Stuck in Our Rectums Last Year.

Iran in the 60s and 70s

also 90 years of Progress in Egypt

You Never Think You're Going to Be the Type of Space Captain to Throw Someone Out the Airlock

No you sure don't.

So What Does Your Earwax Say About You?

The team of organic chemists says earwax is a "neglected body secretion" that can reveal a person's ethnicity and possibly much more information, Fox News reports. When they heated earwax samples from volunteers to release volatile organic compounds (VOCs), the researchers found that the earwax of Caucasians, which tends to be wet, could easily be told apart from the wax of those of East Asian descent, which is usually dry, with the former containing heavier amounts of 11 of the dozen VOCs they tested for.

Why I Wrote a Scathing Obituary About My Mother

"Marianne Theresa Johnson-Reddick born Jan 4, 1935 and died alone on Sept. 30, 2013. She is survived by her 6 of 8 children whom she spent her lifetime torturing in every way possible. While she neglected and abused her small children, she refused to allow anyone else to care or show compassion towards them. When they became adults she stalked and tortured anyone they dared to love. Everyone she met, adult or child was tortured by her cruelty and exposure to violence, criminal activity, vulgarity, and hatred of the gentle or kind human spirit." - Reno Gazette-Journal

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [645 comments] 'Vic</i>' [90.42 posts/day]
2 [465 comments] 'Flatbush Joe'
3 [408 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
4 [345 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse'
5 [323 comments] 'sven10077'
6 [323 comments] 'garrett'
7 [318 comments] 'ManWithNoParty'
8 [313 comments] 'Beagle'
9 [303 comments] 'Boss Moss'
10 [302 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [123 names] 'Adam' [17.24 unique names/day]
2 [97 names] 'phreshone'
3 [69 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
4 [68 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
5 [66 names] 'Semi-engaged scroller'
6 [49 names] 'The Political Hat'
7 [45 names] 'Prez'nit 404'
8 [44 names] 'Barack Hussein Obama'
9 [38 names] 'Hate Miser'
10 [37 names] 'andycanuck'

The group. Yeah.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by Audrey and Grace backstage at the 1956 Academy Awards:

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 06:30 PM | Comments (577)
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1 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5215

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 02, 2014 06:30 PM (AymDN)

2 Hey, y'all! ONT!!!!!

Posted by: Gem at March 02, 2014 06:31 PM (zw+pb)

3 Guess I gotta go downstairs and get the kids.

Posted by: Gem at March 02, 2014 06:33 PM (zw+pb)

4 The rectum is no place for a pipe wrench.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2014 06:33 PM (eL/q6)

5 Dare I even hope to be in the first 10?

Posted by: PabloD at March 02, 2014 06:33 PM (SGw+w)

6 The rectum is no place for a pipe wrench. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2014 10:33 PM (eL/q6) Speak for yourself!

Posted by: Mr. Slave at March 02, 2014 06:34 PM (AymDN)

7 Not even...

Posted by: DM at March 02, 2014 06:35 PM (Ztudx)

8 Obama: US wonÂ’t be able to defend Israel if peace talks fail .... at this point, Obama couldn't defend a tree house

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 02, 2014 06:35 PM (e8kgV)

9 Ok not sure I will look at a candy cane the same way again.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 02, 2014 06:36 PM (RZ8pf)

10 4 The rectum is no place for a pipe wrench. ***** Rectum? Damn near killed 'em!!! I actually don't get that punch line...

Posted by: Taco Shack at March 02, 2014 06:36 PM (C+qQ0)

11 Maet, thanks Grace was such beauty, huh?

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 06:36 PM (1S9oZ)

12 Couldn't or wouldn't?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 06:37 PM (wxETA)

13 I don't always murder innocent people in a Chinese train station, but when I do, I prefer to kill them for allah.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Chinese Muslim in the World at March 02, 2014 06:37 PM (eL/q6)

14 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 06:37 PM (T1005)

15 The candy cane X-ray is fake. There would be no difference between the red and white.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 06:37 PM (TI3xG)

16 That's a whole lot of classy in that dressing room. And I'm thinking that the whole "insert strange object in orifice" thing might have alcohol involved in many cases. Or stupidity.

Posted by: joncelli at March 02, 2014 06:38 PM (/AYWV)

17 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 02, 2014 06:38 PM (JMmQ9)

18 She didn't have great tits or a good caboose...but she really was a beautiful woman. Very elegant.

Posted by: Taco Shack at March 02, 2014 06:38 PM (C+qQ0)

19 *Mass Murder Almost Always Means Mohammed is Involved Somehow* Obviously we need moar gun control!

Posted by: Piers Morgan at March 02, 2014 06:39 PM (WlWt+)

20 Ronald Reagan was in congress when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2014 06:39 PM (YgTB4)

21 I missed the list! I missed the list! Yay!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 06:40 PM (T1005)

22 Oh, and you all will be happy to know that the Oscars are more powerful than troops, helicopters, and ships: @howardfineman 10m #AcademyAwards show diversity, tolerance, cultural creativity of US in Obama Era. Hard power matters, per Putin, but Oscars r as powerful.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 02, 2014 06:41 PM (WlWt+)

23 ONT compliance gif:

http://tinyurl.com/ml8ff65

Posted by: bill-o at March 02, 2014 06:41 PM (bjND7)

24 Wow, I made #7 on the wall of shame. I need some hobbies, obviously.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 06:41 PM (ojnk6)

25 That obituary was written by a sad pathetic sack of shit. I give no shit about the mother, nor am I bothered by people who speak ill of the dead. But to shit all over your own dead mother in a newspaper...that person is deeply disturbed and is every bit a miserable human being as they describe their own mother.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 06:41 PM (wxETA)

26 Loved the Snickers/Godzilla commercial

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 02, 2014 06:41 PM (e8kgV)

27 The question is. Has any promise of security towards Israel from the United States outlive is usefulness.

From the Israeli point of view?

Posted by: GMB who is anti everything at March 02, 2014 06:42 PM (nkPV9)

28 Of course I'm the type of space captain that would toss someone out of an airlock. Hell, I want an airlock *now*.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at March 02, 2014 06:42 PM (Gk3SS)

29 That McSweeney piece had me laughing until I had tears streaming.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 06:43 PM (DmNpO)

30 But this is what happens when you live in the most self-indulgent and self-involved time in human history.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 06:43 PM (wxETA)

31 soothsayer at March 02, 2014 10:41 PM (wxETA) ***** Your mother is/was a saint. But you wouldn't believe how evil some mothers are...

Posted by: Taco Shack at March 02, 2014 06:44 PM (C+qQ0)

32 I watched all of Veronica Mars on the Kindle, and realized it's pretty much non-supernatural Buffy. (Wallace = Xander, Mac = Willow, Duncan = Angel, etc.) I never really checked out the writing credits, but Joss Whedon did do a cameo on the show, so maybe he was involved somehow and has just offering up his usual schtick. Still strangely invested in the romantic outcome of the upcoming movie.... is it going to be Riley, or Spike? Er...I mean, Piz or Logan? If it's drippy Piz, well, fuck that shit.

Posted by: Gem at March 02, 2014 06:44 PM (zw+pb)

33 Spent the last hour trying to get AVG to scan Mrs. Road's 10 year old PC.

I see an IPad in her future.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 06:44 PM (4Mv1T)

34 I wonder if it was a yellow submarine.

Actually, no I don't. A pool ball? Ho Le Shit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 02, 2014 06:45 PM (cHZB7)

35 *You Never Think You're Going to Be the Type of Space Captain to Throw Someone Out the Airlock* I would have defeated the Reapers single-handedly if only there was an airlock big enough to throw them out of.

Posted by: Javik (Prothy the Prothean) at March 02, 2014 06:45 PM (WlWt+)

36 I see an IPad in her future.>>

Have you looked at the side bar lately?

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 06:45 PM (TI3xG)

37 Is tonight's theme assholes?

Posted by: Thunderb at March 02, 2014 06:47 PM (zOTsN)

38 I see an IPad in her future.>>

Have you looked at the side bar lately?
Posted by: The Hickster
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No.

What am I looking for?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 06:47 PM (4Mv1T)

39 37 >> Is tonight's theme assholes?

Can't have an ONT without an asshole or ten.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 02, 2014 06:48 PM (cHZB7)

40 Can't have an ONT without an asshole or ten.
Posted by: GnuBreed
----------------------------

It's what makes the world go 'round.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 06:49 PM (4Mv1T)

41 What am I looking for?>>

Stupid crap the Apple CEO said.

http://tinyurl.com/n7adyy5

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 06:49 PM (TI3xG)

42 Is the " 90 years of Progress in Egypt" link a duplicate of the Hidden Candy Cane link? I sort of understand the hidden meaning, but I thought there might be some special content.

Posted by: Arbalest at March 02, 2014 06:49 PM (FlRtG)

43 Bejeezus! Is there no end to their bullshit? Howard Fineman ‏@howardfineman 19m #AcademyAwards show diversity, tolerance, cultural creativity of US in Obama Era. Hard power matters, per Putin, but Oscars r as powerful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 06:49 PM (DmNpO)

44 Thanks for coming to the rescue Maet. I came from the last open thread, which came to smell of dirt and trannies, with just a hint of elbows.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 06:49 PM (ojnk6)

45 28 Of course I'm the type of space captain that would toss someone out of an airlock. Hell, I want an airlock *now*. -------------- Without your space helmet, Alex? You're going to find that rather difficult.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at March 02, 2014 06:49 PM (eL/q6)

46 25
That obituary was written by a sad pathetic sack of shit. I give no shit about the mother, nor am I bothered by people who speak ill of the dead.

But to shit all over your own dead mother in a newspaper...that person is deeply disturbed and is every bit a miserable human being as they describe their own mother.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 10:41 PM (wxETA) Hide posts from (wxETA)

Did you read the article?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 06:51 PM (T1005)

47 42 Is the " 90 years of Progress in Egypt" link a duplicate of the Hidden Candy Cane link? I sort of understand the hidden meaning, but I thought there might be some special content.
Posted by: Arbalest at March 02, 2014 10:49 PM (FlRtG)

No just the usual fuckuppery. I blame a wonky mouse. And the French.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 02, 2014 06:51 PM (OCFnV)

48 What is Grace holding in that picture? A flask?

Posted by: Retread at March 02, 2014 06:51 PM (cHwk5)

49 Well, this is self-defeating, but I proudly proclaim that I am NOT on the top 10 list this week.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 06:52 PM (aDwsi)

50 "PATIENT STATES HE GOT DRUNK AND PASSED OUT AT GIRLFRIENDS HOUSE, AWOKE WITH SPOONS AND DILDOS IN RECTUM"

True love.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 02, 2014 06:52 PM (cHZB7)

51 If the Oscars are the measure of how well the USA is doing under obama... then the USA is found wanting. *and by under obama I do mean under.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 06:52 PM (wxETA)

52 41 Ah yes, a CEO telling investors that their money may not be welcome. Way to exercise that fiduciary responsibility to share holders you have. See Immelt and GE for how that one worked out.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 06:52 PM (ojnk6)

53 cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:51 PM (T1005) Yeah, her type isn't as rare as we would hope.

Posted by: Taco Shack at March 02, 2014 06:54 PM (C+qQ0)

54 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 10:49 PM (DmNpO) How many divisions are the people at the Oscars willing to field to counter Putin's hard power?

Posted by: Thrawn at March 02, 2014 06:54 PM (WlWt+)

55 Well, this is self-defeating, but I proudly proclaim that I am NOT on the top 10 list this week. Posted by: Mike Hammer
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*Bows head reverently*

Your cat has passed on to its 10th life, I see.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 06:55 PM (4Mv1T)

56 Congratulations, Mike! ;^) I enjoy your posts but somehow squeaking by and not being in the top 10 list myself, I understand your relief. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 06:55 PM (XyM/Y)

57 Â Is tonight's theme assholes? __________ i volunteer to be the first one! Actually, it won't even be like work.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 06:55 PM (wuRvW)

58 I barely read AoS.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 06:56 PM (wxETA)

59 That Howard Fineman. What an asshole. There, I said. Release the hounds!!

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 06:56 PM (RFeQD)

60 Certainly a terrible life that woman who wrote the obituary experienced, but I'm not sure what she did is a step toward healing or evidence of it. My dad was abused by his dad as a kid. Beaten, starved, neglected. And he, too, turned to crime to survive. Eventually he was shipped off to a Catholic boarding school near some aunts. He credits that with his survival. But although we knew some of the horrible treatment he suffered at the hands of his father, he never treated his dad with anything other than respect. And he spent his life helping the cast-offs of society. Maybe he was motivated by his hard life to do good. I think that's better than petty venting.

Posted by: Y-not at March 02, 2014 06:57 PM (zDsvJ)

61 It was 70 here today. Had all the windows open.

18 tomorrow night.

If you don't like the weather in NC...

Just wait a minute.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 06:57 PM (4Mv1T)

62 Grace's dress blows everyone's tonight out of the water.

Posted by: Lauren at March 02, 2014 06:57 PM (hFL/3)

63 The woman who wrote that article says she is an assistant principal dedicated to closing the achievement gap.

Obama voter. Not only that, but if your kid is white and attends her school, expect him or her to be actively discriminated against. And I bet it wouldn't take much for that kid to get her into a Nurse Ratched mode if someone were to complain.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2014 06:58 PM (30eLQ)

64 I was channel chasing, and went across the Academy Awards show, and there was Whoopi Goldbug babbling about something. What a conglomeration of self adsorbed twat-waffles, a gaggle of recredescent scum. Is it too much to ask for a meteor to strike the building they are all in and incinerate every last one of them?

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 06:58 PM (RFeQD)

65 TR - Nope. I've just been assiduous about turning the computer off. Really..., who would think a cat could learn to type just by watching? Still, except for his anti-dog tirades (those mostly appear on HuffPo), our philosophies are remarkably similar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 06:59 PM (aDwsi)

66 I do take the author at her word that she and her were abused as children though.

All the more reason to keep your own kids far far away from her.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2014 06:59 PM (30eLQ)

67 Is it too much to ask for a meteor to strike the building they are all in and incinerate every last one of them? Posted by: Ribald Conservative
-----------------------------------------------

Do not ask what you can do for your meteor, but your meteor can do for you.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 06:59 PM (4Mv1T)

68 Bette Middler is an asshole

Posted by: Thunderb at March 02, 2014 07:01 PM (zOTsN)

69 60 Certainly a terrible life that woman who wrote the obituary experienced, but I'm not sure what she did is a step toward healing or evidence of it.

My dad was abused by his dad as a kid. Beaten, starved, neglected. And he, too, turned to crime to survive. Eventually he was shipped off to a Catholic boarding school near some aunts. He credits that with his survival.

But although we knew some of the horrible treatment he suffered at the hands of his father, he never treated his dad with anything other than respect. And he spent his life helping the cast-offs of society.

Maybe he was motivated by his hard life to do good. I think that's better than petty venting. Posted by: Y-not at March 02, 2014 10:57 PM (zDsvJ) Hide posts from (zDsvJ)

I certainly would say that it's better....but the other side is understandable -- and may serve a useful purpose to bring some closure.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:01 PM (T1005)

70 Y-Not, yesterday I drove past a black Ford Pickup in MA with NH plates: Y+NOT.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 07:01 PM (wxETA)

71 Bette Middler is an asshole Posted by: Thunderb
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And not very handsome, either.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:01 PM (4Mv1T)

72 I see an IPad in her future.>> Have you looked at the side bar lately? Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 10:45 PM I'm about to buy TheMissusÂ™ a new laptop (despite the "Soon To Be Ex" appendage). I'm lookin' at Win 7 machines, 'cause Win 8 would completely blow her mind (and create a lot of grief for me). Teh Hordes' thoughts will be appreciated...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 02, 2014 07:01 PM (JMmQ9)

73 I thought pretty seriously about the airlock once, but figured throwing people *into* engines was workin' just fine.

Posted by: Malcolm Reynolds at March 02, 2014 07:01 PM (zw+pb)

74 I think the progs just love the sound of the words cock brothas. Plus, it's more Alinsky, in being a name, personal, and not an organization. Make it personal.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 02, 2014 07:02 PM (tmFlQ)

75 And now, Lou Dobbs on Fox speaks of Putin mobilizing 150,000 additional troops to the border of Ukraine. And now, "reporting for Doody" Kerry urges Russia keep their word about keeping the peace. I am sure that Putin and his government are worried now. Strongly worded messages from the Obama regime forthcoming.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 07:02 PM (RFeQD)

76 Audrey Hepburn. Caught "My Fair Lady" on tcm this morning. Have never seen anyone carry themself with such grace and poise. Classy lady.

Posted by: bill_in_kennesaw at March 02, 2014 07:02 PM (f28MD)

77 Grace's dress blows everyone's tonight out of the water. *** http://bit.ly/1lnBc12

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 07:03 PM (DmNpO)

78 "The rectum is no place for a pipe wrench."

Nor any wrench of any other type, thank you very much.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 07:03 PM (gqT4g)

79 And now, Lou Dobbs on Fox speaks of Putin mobilizing 150,000 additional troops to the border of Ukraine. *** No fear. Hollywood will talk him down.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 07:04 PM (DmNpO)

80 I really can't explain; I know it was insane But in this blizzard we went for a drive. Black ice with blinding snow. I took it really slow. Consequently, we got home alive. Karma Shave

Posted by: mindful webworker - bring back those lazy hazy crazy days of summer at March 02, 2014 07:04 PM (kUq7A)

81 Ahhh, a fixed link. Thanks M.

Posted by: Arbalest at March 02, 2014 07:04 PM (FlRtG)

82 Just asking for prayers for Shirley-a dear lady I know. She has been dealing with cancer for years. Right now she is so very dizzy. I am praying for healing for her but she also asked for prayers because she's supposed to go on a trip this week and, of course, wants to feel better and to go. Thx so much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:04 PM (XyM/Y)

83 @ Alton Jackson Win 7 platforms are what I am using now. Win 8.1 on a touchscreen computer (which are out now) is actually OK. The original Win 8 (on a non-touch screen PC) was pretty unlikeable.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 07:05 PM (RFeQD)

84 Iran in the 60s and 70s I remember some Iranian students when I was in college in the late 70s. OMG. Iranian women are among the most beautiful women on Earth.

Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2014 07:05 PM (sdi6R)

85 72 Alton, Stay far, far away from Win 8. Tigerdirect.com still has wome availwble with the Win 7 or 8 option. If you wind up with 8, make sure it's 8.1 as you can use the Classic shell feature to get it to look like Win 7.m

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:06 PM (ojnk6)

86 "I'm lookin' at Win 7 machines, 'cause Win 8 would completely blow her mind (and create a lot of grief for me)."

There is a hack to revert a Win 8 machine to the Win 7 shell.

The underlying internals of Win 8 are just polished, performance tuned Win 7 to begin with. That would have been okay. Until Redmond slapped this dopey new smartphone derived shell on top. Not okay.

I haven't tested the method but many on line claim it's a godsend.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 07:06 PM (gqT4g)

87 Howard Fineman @howardfineman Â· 7m Not saying military power, diplomatic guts are unimportant. They're key, never more so than now. Just saying cultural appeal matters, too.

Posted by: The Facepalming Hat at March 02, 2014 07:07 PM (AymDN)

88 Fineman wrote for the NYTimes, the WaPost, Newsweek, and now AOL HuffPo He is among the best of the journalist tribe Read it and weep

Posted by: Thunderb at March 02, 2014 07:07 PM (zOTsN)

89 @84 -- Exhibit A -- Catherine Bell

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 02, 2014 07:07 PM (ZwFP/)

90 61Â It was 70 here today. Had all the windows open. 18 tomorrow night. _______ Yep. High 60's here today. Supposed to be freezing & get a couple inches of global warming tomorrow - I blame George Bush.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 07:07 PM (wuRvW)

91 Alton, Lenovo.com still has Win7.

Posted by: Steck at March 02, 2014 07:08 PM (5i94q)

92 Reagan lied just as bad as Bush

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at March 02, 2014 07:08 PM (FRZNB)

93 Howard Fineman is right: the Oscars are a reflection of obama. Where else would you gather so many compassionate, generous, and caring people...who do Absolutely Nothing to help others and the truly needy? Someone should tweet Fineman this: How many needy people did all those at the Academy Awards tonight actually help? #finemanisadumbassrube

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 07:09 PM (wxETA)

94 Bette Middler is an asshole Posted by: Thunderb --------------------------------- And not very handsome, either. Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 11:01 PM (4Mv1T) F**kin' tranniesÂ…

Posted by: The Hollywood Hat at March 02, 2014 07:09 PM (AymDN)

95 Who is this Doofus Blimline?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:09 PM (4Mv1T)

96 Just asking for prayers for Shirley-a dear lady I know. She has been dealing with cancer for years. Right now she is so very dizzy. I am praying for healing for her but she also asked for prayers because she's supposed to go on a trip this week and, of course, wants to feel better and to go. Thx so much. *** done

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 07:10 PM (DmNpO)

97 Ah, so now Mr Fineman backtracks. Frankly, our "cultural appeal" via "Hollywood" is pretty repulsive, on the whole. A lot of people around the world are more than a little repulsed by the garbage that comes from the Hollywood cesspool. Fineman defends the narrative. Unexpected.......zzzzzz

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 07:10 PM (RFeQD)

98 My dad was abused by his dad as a kid. Beaten, starved, neglected. And he, too, turned to crime to survive. Eventually he was shipped off to a Catholic boarding school near some aunts. He credits that with his survival. But although we knew some of the horrible treatment he suffered at the hands of his father, he never treated his dad with anything other than respect. And he spent his life helping the cast-offs of society. Maybe he was motivated by his hard life to do good. I think that's better than petty venting. Posted by: Y-not at March 02, 2014 10:57 PM (zDsvJ) Hide posts from (zDsvJ) I certainly would say that it's better....but the other side is understandable -- and may serve a useful purpose to bring some closure. Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 11:01 PM (T1005) ******************** I know mothers who raped their children. Held them down while the stepfather deflowered them. And they did it willingly. Sacrificed their children for the fleeting affections of some man. They don't deserve anything but scorn.

Posted by: Taco Shack at March 02, 2014 07:10 PM (C+qQ0)

99 Bette Middler is a fabulous asshole Posted by: Thunderb FIFY

Posted by: Bruce, From San Francisco at March 02, 2014 07:10 PM (aDwsi)

100 Fineman, People helped by obama: 0 People helped by the Oscar-goers tonight: 0

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 07:10 PM (wxETA)

101 My 8-year old daughter anxiously awaits the release of Frozen on DVD.

And I look forward to having it in continuous play until 2015.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 02, 2014 07:11 PM (ZwFP/)

102 doG, we're still talkin' Oscars? This is just slightly more stupider than talkin' Final Four bullsiht. Marker. Laid.

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 02, 2014 07:11 PM (JMmQ9)

103 "Who is this Doofus Blimline?"

A close friend of "Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 07:11 PM (gqT4g)

104 Fineman, Starving children fed tonight by Oscar attendees: 0. But aren't they diverse and tolerant!

Posted by: soothsayer at March 02, 2014 07:12 PM (wxETA)

105 Howard Fineman is right: the Oscars are a reflection of obama. *** I could GAS about the Obama reference. I'm pissed off that he thinks the power of the Oscars is equal to that of Putin's "hard powers". So, when Putin's troops march across the border, I hope the filmmakers, and Fineman, will stand in their path.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 07:12 PM (DmNpO)

106

Howard Fineman @howardfineman Â· 7m

Not saying military power, diplomatic guts are unimportant. They're key, never more so than now. Just saying cultural appeal matters, too.

Hokey beliefs and ancient Oscar trophies are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Posted by: Han Solo at March 02, 2014 07:13 PM (BAS5M)

107 There is a hack to revert a Win 8 machine to the Win 7 shell.>>

I have not used this so take care. But it looks like there are hacks. I have looking into this for my Father.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/make-windows-8-like-windows-7

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 07:13 PM (TI3xG)

108 I have a doppelganger in MA!

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at March 02, 2014 07:13 PM (zDsvJ)

109 $19.55 for a roast beef on french roll, avocado, tomatoes, lettuce and jalapeÃ±os .. if delivered within 26 minutes ..

Posted by: Leon Spinks at March 02, 2014 07:13 PM (qQk+U)

110 In many ways, the story of the Oscars is the story of Barack Obama. In many ways.....

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 07:13 PM (RFeQD)

111 105 Lead by Tom Cruise, as he already knows being an actor is as hard as being a Soldier in a combat situation.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:14 PM (ojnk6)

112 What a pompous silly man

Posted by: Thunderb at March 02, 2014 07:14 PM (zOTsN)

113 I've seen Keith Olbermann's bathtub. How many of you can claim that?

Posted by: Howard Fineman at March 02, 2014 07:14 PM (Aif/5)

114 I get a day off tomorrow...... Finally!

Posted by: Balack Obama at March 02, 2014 07:15 PM (jucos)

115
Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly? Come on....way to make a man feel insignificant and totally blessed all at the same time.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 02, 2014 07:15 PM (gorVZ)

116 Hokey beliefs and ancient Oscar trophies are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. Posted by: Han Solo ------------------------ Possible thread winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 07:15 PM (aDwsi)

117 If anyone is thinking about renovating an old house, I recommend setting it on fire instead. Every thing you do uncovers just something else to be done, like a hamster on a wheel it just keeps going and going. I'm doing the kitchen, which lead to replacing the entire old drain plumbing. 50 years of h2s had eaten the iron pipes away to basically nothing. I had to have the water off for 36 hours, which was mostly spent crawling around under the house taking out old and putting in new pipes. Next time I'm just going to blame the fire on rat chewed wires.

Posted by: traye at March 02, 2014 07:16 PM (FDMwY)

118 @98 I guess I'd choose silence. In a way the obituary minimizes the atrocity by summing it up in a few sentences.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at March 02, 2014 07:16 PM (zDsvJ)

119 And may our all lives be such that even though none of us are perfect people that when we die we have many people in our lives including children-if we have any-that they can say that they felt blessed to have known and been in relationship with us.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:16 PM (XyM/Y)

120 105 So, when Putin's troops march across the border, I hope the filmmakers, and Fineman, will stand in their path.Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 11:12 PM (DmNpO)
They'll send them a DVD of "12 Years a Slav"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2014 07:16 PM (YgTB4)

121 Kaboom was not mentioned in that obituary .

Posted by: Tmitsss at March 02, 2014 07:16 PM (Pa9vP)

122 Financial planning question for the Horde.

If one were to assume there is a 50% to 110% chance that the US dollar will collapse due to the enormous weight of our oppressive debt...and our idiot leadership, in say 2-5 years...

How much would you be willing to bet on this?

I am contemplating a significant bet with a percentage of my retirement account, such as it is.

Silver is at $21 now. If I buy now, and silver goes to $500-$1000 due to currency collapse in several years, I can continue to eat and pay bills. If it goes to $10, I loose no less than any other crummy investment I've made in recent years.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:17 PM (4Mv1T)

123 I know mothers who raped their children. Held them down while the stepfather deflowered them. And they did it willingly. Sacrificed their children for the fleeting affections of some man.

They don't deserve anything but scorn.

Posted by: Taco Shack at March 02, 2014 11:10 PM (C+qQ0) Hide posts from (C+qQ0)

For a child to truthfully forgive a parent for that sort of thing is ennobling, but hardly expected or usual.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:17 PM (T1005)

124 Lead by Tom Cruise, as he already knows being an actor is as hard as being a Soldier in a combat situation. Posted by: ManWithNoParty Actually, in fairness to Cruise, he was being sarcastic and meant just the opposite of what he said. Meaning, he thought his life as an actor was nothing like or as hard as a soldier serving in combat. And I really don't care much for Cruise, the perpetual adolescent.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 07:17 PM (RFeQD)

125 I saw that the dems sent out the email about when Reagan was in Congress. I wonder how many actually believe it is true. IÂ’m sure it is too many.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 07:19 PM (z4WKX)

126 Dallas

- Observed High at 12:05 am - 71 deg F (Yesterdays High 81)
- Current Temp - 21 deg F

Posted by: phreshone at March 02, 2014 07:19 PM (Q6pxP)

127 Held them down while the stepfather deflowered them. And they did it willingly. Sacrificed their children for the fleeting affections of some man. They don't deserve anything but scorn. Posted by: Taco Shack at March 02, 2014 11:10 If by scorn, you mean being skinned alive and fed to wild animals of some sort, then I agree with you.

Posted by: traye at March 02, 2014 07:19 PM (FDMwY)

128 If by scorn, you mean being skinned alive and fed to wild animals of some sort, then I agree with you. Posted by: traye
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And by wild animals, we mean hogs.
They like the bones, too.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:20 PM (4Mv1T)

129 "Silver is at $21 now. If I buy now, and silver goes to $500-$1000 due to currency collapse in several years, I can continue to eat and pay bills."

That's what they said about gold until I came along.

Posted by: Executive Order 6102 at March 02, 2014 07:20 PM (gqT4g)

130 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:04 PM (XyM/Y) Prayers for your friend are on their way. I know she is in a hard place and I hope she will do well. H

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 07:20 PM (o3MSL)

131 123 I did not know that, thanks. What does it say about the state of things thst I had no trouble believing this was sincere?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:20 PM (ojnk6)

132 THE Irish singer Bono once described a difference between America and his native land. Â“In the United States,Â” he explained, Â“you look at the guy that lives in the mansion on the hill, and you think, you know, one day, if I work really hard, I could live in that mansion. In Ireland, people look up at the guy in the mansion on the hill and go, one day, IÂ’m going to get that bastard.Â”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 02, 2014 07:21 PM (e8kgV)

133 n many ways, the story of the Oscars is the story of Barack Obama. In many ways..... Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at March 02, 2014 11:13 PM (RFeQD) Yes it is, as in it is all bullshit.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 07:21 PM (z4WKX)

134 That's what they said about gold until I came along. Posted by: Executive Order 6102 at March 02, 2014 11:20 PM (gqT4g) Turns out my canoe trip was very ill-advised.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 07:22 PM (o3MSL)

135 OK, I'm out tomorrow noches, mi amigoes

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 02, 2014 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)

136 If you don't like the weather in NC... Just wait a minute. Â—Tobacco Road Hey, now! Â©! I said that about Oklahoma. Where, by the way, it's 3Â° & ice storms now. 70Â° next Sunday.

Posted by: Zombie Will Rogers at March 02, 2014 07:23 PM (VV7s1)

137 Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 11:17 PM (4Mv1T) For currency collapsing, more serious issues than the price of silver occur. Food and gas e.g.

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 07:23 PM (qoKTg)

138 >>>"In the United States,Â” he explained, Â“you look at the guy that lives in the mansion on the hill, and you think, you know, one day, if I work really hard, I could live in that mansion. In Ireland, people look up at the guy in the mansion on the hill and go, one day, IÂ’m going to get that bastard.Â” ----------- At some point, you've made enough money.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2014 07:24 PM (eL/q6)

139 TR, whatever wild animals, mine would probably be sharks, fish and crabs since they are close by. I would only have to carry the skinned goblin a couple hundred feet to the water.

Posted by: traye at March 02, 2014 07:24 PM (FDMwY)

140 Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 11:23 PM (qoKTg) haven't seen a gas pump that takes silver dimes.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 07:24 PM (o3MSL)

141 It should be noted the earwax research is funded by federal tax dollars.

Because something that important couldn't wait until we were no longer over our heads in debt.

Posted by: Adjoran at March 02, 2014 07:24 PM (QIQ6j)

142 136 Exactly. See also: Ammo, booze, tobacco. Trade worthy items.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:24 PM (ojnk6)

143 The Oscars are considerably more boring than ever. Insipid too.

Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2014 07:25 PM (F58x4)

144

48 What is Grace holding in that picture? A flask?

More likely, a little clutch purse.

They used tiny ones back then with evening wear.

Posted by: wheatie at March 02, 2014 07:25 PM (QsHQT)

145 At some point, you've made enough money. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
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This is jest, no?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:25 PM (4Mv1T)

146 Next time I'm just going to blame the fire on rat chewed wires. Make sure it's not a rat on the endangered species list or they could slap you for loss of habitat ...

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 07:26 PM (qoKTg)

147 At some point, you've made enough money. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2014 11:24 PM (eL/q6) Unless you've made a lot of BIG donations to the right causes to get (and stay) on the cronies list!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 07:26 PM (o3MSL)

148 Audrey? Reminds me of this great indie pop tune. http://youtu.be/bca1pQuR0hI (Official video copies exist but the sound sucks on them.)

Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2014 07:26 PM (fOFYL)

149 Thx brother, Hrothgar. I appreciate that. I know that you do understand and you have my continuing prayers for both you and your dear wife.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:26 PM (XyM/Y)

150 It's warmed up a little and only -5 currently here. But we may break into the 30s by Friday so looking forward to that.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 07:26 PM (TI3xG)

151 116 If anyone is thinking about renovating an old house, I recommend setting it on fire instead. Posted by: traye at March 02, 2014 11:16 PM (FDMwY) -------------------- Yeah. Been there. Done that. Oh, who am I kidding? 20+ years and we're STILL doing that. *gag*

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 02, 2014 07:27 PM (dfYL9)

152 "If anyone is thinking about renovating an old house, I recommend setting it on fire instead. Every thing you do uncovers just something else to be done, like a hamster on a wheel it just keeps going and going."

Or at a minimum find the toughest, most hardbitten and cynical home inspector in your area, before you buy, and turn them loose with orders to find and notify you of EVERYTHING that is likely to go wrong.

"I'm doing the kitchen, which lead to replacing the entire old drain plumbing. 50 years of h2s had eaten the iron pipes away to basically nothing. I had to have the water off for 36 hours, which was mostly spent crawling around under the house taking out old and putting in new pipes."

::: Four Yorkshiremen :::

Oh, you could get _under_ the house. Luxury! We would have _loved_ to be able to get under the house. It would have been like a palace to us!

Seriously, going underneath houses is a giant pain in the ass. Dangerous. No fun. There are things that bite. Dust. Webs. Sharp edges. Things to hit your head on. It doesn't smell great. It's horrible for claustrophobics. But at least you can get to things and fix them. Consider how much fun it would have been if those decayed pipes were under a nice sturdy reinforced concrete slab.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 07:28 PM (gqT4g)

153

Agh...where do the Unions get all those millions to donate?

Are they robbing from their pension funds...or laundering money for some other donors?

Posted by: wheatie at March 02, 2014 07:28 PM (QsHQT)

154 Â“In the United States,Â” he explained, Â“you look at the guy that lives in the mansion on the hill, and you think, you know, one day, if I work really hard, I could live in that mansion.

If a professional athlete lives there, you'll be able to buy it for 25 cents on the dollar in foreclosure. You may have to do a little renovation (see #116).

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 02, 2014 07:28 PM (ZwFP/)

155 Was scrolling through ukraine liveblog and saw this.

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The scrappy independent Crimean Tatar TV station ATR is still on the air, after a night of rolling Â“The PatriotÂ” with Mel Gibson (on the American revolution) mixed with webcam footage of the armed men strolling up and down their parking lot outside. While the State TV station was taken over in Simferopol, and ATR has been gathering its personnel together and expecting the worse, they are still broadcasting. Perhaps the authorities need to keep at least some alternative sources of news open.is --

Posted by: gracepmc at March 02, 2014 07:28 PM (rznx3)

156 In Venezuela there is no TP, no soap, no milk ... et c.

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 07:28 PM (qoKTg)

157 I'm the type of space captain that would toss someone out of an airlock The only question is whether I put a pulser dart through your ear first.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 02, 2014 07:28 PM (cHwSy)

158 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:26 PM (XyM/Y) I remain grateful that you are out there doing such good work, and really appreciate your presence on this site.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 07:28 PM (o3MSL)

159 121 Financial planning question for the Horde.

If one were to assume there is a 50% to 110% chance that the US dollar will collapse due to the enormous weight of our oppressive debt...and our idiot leadership, in say 2-5 years...

How much would you be willing to bet on this?

I am contemplating a significant bet with a percentage of my retirement account, such as it is.

Silver is at $21 now. If I buy now, and silver goes to $500-$1000 due to currency collapse in several years, I can continue to eat and pay bills. If it goes to $10, I loose no less than any other crummy investment I've made in recent years.

Thoughts?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 11:17 PM (4Mv1T) Hide posts from (4Mv1T)

Got plenty o' thoughts -- few of 'em happy ones.

What we're seeing now is an epidemic of consumption, strong disincentives to save, appropriation of the interest savers deserve in order to fuel government malinvestment on an unprecedented scale, and massive fraud and graft. Physical ownership of precious metals hedges some of those risks....but have a care, paper "ownership units" or interests in asset-holding trusts do not.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:29 PM (T1005)

160 houghts? Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 11:17 PM (4Mv1T) Guns/ ammo/ and toilet paper are the new currancy. and a good apple jack recipie

Posted by: Smart Military Blog at March 02, 2014 07:29 PM (q0r5L)

161 In Venezuela there is no TP, no soap, no milk ... et c. Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 11:28 PM (qoKTg) So Obama still has unmet goals for the US, is that what you're trying to say?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 07:29 PM (o3MSL)

162 Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 11:28 PM (o3MSL) How kind of you to say. :^) Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:30 PM (XyM/Y)

163 152 Wheatie, the answer is "Yes" to your question.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:30 PM (ojnk6)

164
You'll be shocked shocked to learn that the attackers who hacked 29 people to death in a Chinese train station have something in common with most group mass killers around the world.

Ya know, islam gets a bad name due to lack of understanding what with the abuse of women, hanging of gays, beheading of Jews, shooting of Christians, suicide bombers, teaching their children of hate, and terrorist attacks.

Other than that its quite peaceful.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 02, 2014 07:30 PM (gorVZ)

165 That candy cane must have been rock hard.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at March 02, 2014 07:30 PM (IPz9m)

166 Yeah. Been there. Done that. Oh, who am I kidding? 20+ years and we're STILL doing that. *gag* Posted by: Margarita ---------------------- I do not believe that there is a square yard of our house that does not need *something* done to it. And that does not take into account larger issues.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 07:30 PM (aDwsi)

167 Be nice to the Muslims or the founder of GOProud will scold us again..........

Posted by: Adam at March 02, 2014 07:31 PM (Aif/5)

168 OMG! LMAO! Jon Lovett ‏@jonlovett 3m This is Woody Allen's 24th Oscar nomination. He is also a child molester.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 07:31 PM (DmNpO)

169 It just so happens that due to shifting plans we have a glut of TP right now, so that market's cornered. . . .

Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2014 07:32 PM (fOFYL)

170 Other than that its quite peaceful. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 02, 2014 11:30 PM (gorVZ) Yes, that stoning of adulterers thing is so calming!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2014 07:32 PM (o3MSL)

171 >>>This is jest, no? ---------- This is the political wisdom of the President of the United States.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2014 07:32 PM (eL/q6)

172 153 In LAUSD we teach students that whoever owns that mansion got it from stealing from the 99%

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:32 PM (b7yum)

173 "Silver is at $21 now. If I buy now, and silver goes to $500-$1000 due to currency collapse in several years, I can continue to eat and pay bills." That's what they said about gold until I came along. Posted by: Executive Order 6102 at March 02, 2014 11:20 PM (gqT4g) Why hello there!

Posted by: Palladium at March 02, 2014 07:33 PM (AymDN)

174 That earwax story is bullshit 'cuz I spent 13 years in college being taught that race is a social construct

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:33 PM (b7yum)

175 So have you noticed how TFG has contracted out the Russian problem to Giddyap John Kerry and Sheriff Joe? Foghorn Leghorn is not impressed: http://bit.ly/1de2Toh

Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2014 07:33 PM (F58x4)

176 172 "Silver is at $21 now. If I buy now, and silver goes to $500-$1000 due to currency collapse in several years, I can continue to eat and pay bills." That's what they said about gold until I came along. Posted by: Executive Order 6102 at March 02, 2014 11:20 PM (gqT4g) Why hello there! Posted by: Palladium at March 02, 2014 11:33 PM (AymDN) No, polonium is where it's at.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 02, 2014 07:34 PM (fOFYL)

177 167 You can tell which actors are approaching their retirement by stuff like this. They've made their pile, get residuals, and no longer care for the Tinsel Town PC crap.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:34 PM (ojnk6)

178 82 Just asking for prayers for Shirley-

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:04 PM (XyM/Y)

********

Will keep Shirley in my prayers -- for a good trip. Also you may be interested -- the other day The Anchoress had a few suggestions for Lenten Readings. I'm getting one.

Posted by: gracepmc at March 02, 2014 07:34 PM (rznx3)

179 172 Silver was almost twice as high five years ago. Watch out. Brass and lead are far better

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:34 PM (b7yum)

180 172 Silver was almost twice as high five years ago. Watch out. Brass and lead are far better Posted by: MAx
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Which is why silver is a buy now. Brass and lead? I have enough.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:35 PM (4Mv1T)

181 174 - Apparently Kerry is complaining that Putin is playing by "20th Century Rules".

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 07:35 PM (aDwsi)

182

The Crotch brother's are evil self-serving bastards, and America would be a better place after they're convicted and sent to jail for whatever they did.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 02, 2014 07:35 PM (nQjHM)

183 Thx so much. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:04 PM (XyM/Y) Prayers for Shirley said, Fenelon.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 07:36 PM (z4WKX)

184 What we really need is more research into improving the flavor of ear wax.

Posted by: Zombie Albus Dumbledore at March 02, 2014 07:37 PM (YLiN/)

185 I do not believe that there is a square yard of our house that does not need *something* done to it. And that does not take into account larger issues.>>

I grew up in an early 20s house that my Father was renovating. The experience was not quite 12 years a slave but closer to Cool Hand Luke. Learned a ton though working on it with my father.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 07:37 PM (TI3xG)

186 By the way, on the list of all those who saw Russia getting ready to misbehave (I know, I know, that included everyone not a Progressive Democrat) was Niall Ferguson and Frank Gaffney. Here they are from just a week ago: http://bit.ly/1hUgIN6

Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2014 07:37 PM (F58x4)

187 Thx for the prayers, Grace and for the suggestion on the site for the Anchoress. I used to read her stuff more than I do (I just got out of the habit) but I do like her reflections on faith.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:38 PM (XyM/Y)

188 Someone stuck dice up their penis!!?

Dice? Not a die, but at least two dice.

I'm both impressed and perplexed. I guess if you're going to be sticking dice up your penis, 2d20's would probably be the way to go, for her pleasure.

d4's or d8's, that's for crazy people. And anyone who can stick d100's up their penis, is just spending way too much time putting dice up their penis.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 02, 2014 07:38 PM (AC0lD)

189 #7 Best Director: Alfonso CuarÃ³n YES!!!!!!!

Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2014 07:38 PM (sdi6R)

190 Which is why silver is a buy now. Brass and lead? I have enough. Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 11:35 PM (4Mv1T) impossible

Posted by: Smart Military Blog at March 02, 2014 07:38 PM (q0r5L)

191 179 Only a buy now if it doesn't fall any further

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:39 PM (b7yum)

192 Love the Hepburn picture. Damn fine women, and far better than most of what passes for human in Hollywood today.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 02, 2014 07:39 PM (lr3d7)

193 187 What about the dice cup???

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:40 PM (b7yum)

194 Sidney Poitier looking good at 87. And gets to have Angelina Jolie on his arm.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 02, 2014 07:40 PM (ZwFP/)

195 When Americans no longer have the freedom to decide which size dice to stick up their penis, then the terrorists have already won.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2014 07:40 PM (eL/q6)

196 Sink reinstall done. It appears that only half as many mounting brackets/bolts were used as recommended. Here's hoping that my attempts to over engineer all the repairs work.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 02, 2014 07:41 PM (R+XDI)

197 @194--some guys will do anything to win at Risk.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 02, 2014 07:41 PM (ZwFP/)

198 China and Iran must be delighted to witness our weakness. And will seek to exploit it

Posted by: thunderb at March 02, 2014 07:42 PM (zOTsN)

199 179 Only a buy now if it doesn't fall any further Posted by: MAx
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DAve. If it falls, it might fall to $10. I lose 50%. Chump change.

If the dollar collapses and it goes to $500-$1000, that's a factor of 50.

Big Five Oh.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:42 PM (4Mv1T)

200 But we have to gut the military because da joos control it.

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at March 02, 2014 07:43 PM (Aif/5)

201 The Crotch brother's

***

Barry and Reggie???

Posted by: cool arrow at March 02, 2014 07:44 PM (Dqdyh)

202 Really great role models for girls--alcoholics, con artists.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 02, 2014 07:44 PM (ZwFP/)

203 198 Well I wish that I could be good with a 50% loss but I'm just a humble public servant. .223's never going to .15 a round tho

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:45 PM (b7yum)

204 195 Sink reinstall done. It appears that only half as many mounting brackets/bolts were used as recommended. Here's hoping that my attempts to over engineer all the repairs work. Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 02, 2014 11:41 PM (R+XDI) Hide posts from (R+XDI)

Congrats, Crank! Re-plumb tomorrow?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:46 PM (T1005)

205 Someone stuck dice up their penis!!? Dice? Not a die, but at least two dice. I'm both impressed and perplexed. I guess if you're going to be sticking dice up your penis, 2d20's would probably be the way to go, for her pleasure. d4's or d8's, that's for crazy people. And anyone who can stick d100's up their penis, is just spending way too much time putting dice up their penis. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 02, 2014 11:38 PM (AC0lD) Maybe they were cylindrical diceÂ…

Posted by: The d20 Hat at March 02, 2014 07:46 PM (AymDN)

206
Life begins at birth, and this isn't lore but established fact by over 4000 scientists and approximately 8000 doctors. You can't argue with settled science, and I've communicated these facts to the president.

Posted by: Lizzy "Two Dogs Fucking" Warren at March 02, 2014 07:46 PM (nQjHM)

207 Carol -- still prayin' for Paul.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:46 PM (T1005)

208 Crank, When is baby due? I forget. I have new very warm sweatshirt jacket, w/o hood, from L. L. Bean. ItÂ’s great, it is not leaving pieces of medium blue fabric all over the house. I was buying sherpa lined sweatshirt jackets from Eddie Bauer until the last ones had zippers that fell out on the first day I wore one. I washed first & still it made dust everywhere. I am never buying anything from EB again.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 07:47 PM (z4WKX)

209 Dice up the peen hole? Ouch.

Posted by: Toaster Fucker at March 02, 2014 07:47 PM (Aif/5)

210 I just wish people were half as eager to publicly out some leftist fascist son of a bitch as they are to out me

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:47 PM (b7yum)

211 TR - You looking at junk silver, or bars?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 07:48 PM (aDwsi)

212 I'm both impressed and perplexed. I guess if you're going to be sticking dice up your penis, 2d20's would probably be the way to go, for her pleasure. d4's or d8's, that's for crazy people. And anyone who can stick d100's up their penis, is just spending way too much time putting dice up their penis. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 02, 2014 11:38 PM (AC0lD) Confucius say: "Man who stick dice up penis, sooner or later going to roll snake-eyes."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2014 07:48 PM (yDmQD)

213 Yes, I think Audrey Hepburn was a genuinely gracious and generous and good person. I always got the impression that Jimmy Stewart was too and I love their movies. Spouse got out "Roman Holiday" from the library so we'll watch that tomorrow. One of my favorite films. I understood they originally wanted Cary Grant to play the journalist part but he turned it down.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:48 PM (XyM/Y)

214 Dice up the peen hole? Ouch. Snake Eyed

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2014 07:48 PM (gfvnS)

215 Dice up the peen hole? Ouch. Posted by: Toaster Fucker at March 02, 2014 11:47 PM (Aif/5) It gets worse... *shudders*

Posted by: Traumatized D&D Figure at March 02, 2014 07:48 PM (AymDN)

216 208 I used to hide my dice cup up my butt but it kept falling out

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:49 PM (b7yum)

217 DNA says that we are about 98% in common with chimpanzees, and yet you can tell our race by earwax?

I remain unconvinced.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 07:49 PM (AW7Gr)

218 Cate Blanchett is thanking everyone from the cast members and cameramen, to her publicist, to her make-up artist, to her childhood dentist. Hmmm. Did not even mention Woody Allen.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 02, 2014 07:49 PM (dfYL9)

219 The d20 Hat:

Yatzy!

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 07:49 PM (c6N69)

220 214 Dice up the peen hole? Ouch.

Posted by: Toaster Fucker at March 02, 2014 11:47 PM (Aif/5)

It gets worse...

*shudders*

Posted by: Traumatized D&D Figure at March 02, 2014 11:48 PM (AymDN) Hide posts from (AymDN)

Uh-oh....did somebody miss their saving throw?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:49 PM (T1005)

221 Agh...where do the Unions get all those millions to donate?
Are they robbing from their pension funds...or laundering money for some other donors?

Posted by: wheatie at March 02, 2014 11:28 PM (QsHQT)

My guess is papa doc obama soaks the tax payers to bail out the automotive industry (unions) and other unions. Then the money gets laundered through the unions and donated back to the dems as campaign donations. Almost seems like a good reason stimulus money never seemed to hit street level. It seems like one big money laundering scam by the dems to run campaigns with war chests filled the tax payers. I could be wrong, but with this group of scumbags it almost makes sense.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 07:50 PM (FMbng)

222 Somewhere in here there is a joke about Craps..., just can't figure out how to work it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 07:51 PM (aDwsi)

223 220 Berserker...nailed it in 1.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:51 PM (ojnk6)

224 I wonder: Are people at all embarrassed by showing up in the emergency room and having these sorts of odd things extracted or do they just get them removed, recover and go back to the same beyond odd activities?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:51 PM (XyM/Y)

225 The Iran pictures give me a sad. Love Persian women and hate to see them hidden away these days...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 02, 2014 07:52 PM (lr3d7)

226 @223, the latter.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 07:52 PM (AW7Gr)

227 223 These days? They are proud.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:53 PM (ojnk6)

228 223 I wonder: Are people at all embarrassed by showing up in the emergency room and having these sorts of odd things extracted or do they just get them removed, recover and go back to the same beyond odd activities? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:51 PM (XyM/Y) Hide posts from (XyM/Y)

The ones that get stuck in livestock might look a little sheepish....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:53 PM (T1005)

229 McCounaghy thanking God

Posted by: thunderb at March 02, 2014 07:53 PM (zOTsN)

230

I passed a kidney stone once that was I swear to God 3/8" in one dimension. I told my doctor I was blessed that the tube it passed through was so large.

He didn't believe something so large came out of my dick until he tested it and confirmed it was indeed a kidney stone

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:53 PM (b7yum)

231 so damn cold outside

Posted by: The Dude at March 02, 2014 07:53 PM (bStrg)

232 So Matthew McConahahay definitely not like Rust Cohle. Spent a solid two minutes talking about God.

Posted by: Adam at March 02, 2014 07:53 PM (Aif/5)

233 223 I wonder: Are people at all embarrassed by showing up in the emergency room and having these sorts of odd things extracted or do they just get them removed, recover and go back to the same beyond odd activities? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:51 PM (XyM/Y) 52% voted for Obama. There's your answer.

Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2014 07:54 PM (sdi6R)

234 truly a serman

Posted by: thunderb at March 02, 2014 07:54 PM (zOTsN)

235
Are people at all embarrassed by showing up in the emergency room and having these sorts of odd things extracted

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:51 PM (XyM/Y)

Yes, it was a little embarrassing.

Posted by: Richard Gere at March 02, 2014 07:54 PM (nQjHM)

236 Colorado Alex: But, hey, Carter got rid of that meanie, the Shah.

You know, a modern ruler who wasn't shy about executing islamic radicals.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 07:54 PM (c6N69)

237 Holy carp. Matthew McConaughey is thanking God and praising his grace. Whoa. Bet a lot of people wish they could take that vote back.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 02, 2014 07:54 PM (dfYL9)

238 TR - You looking at junk silver, or bars? Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Junk silver and Eagles to have in my hand, but no too much.

For the mentioned hedge? Buying shares of SLV that would not be in my hand, but part of an investment portfolio. If the SHTF, and the markets closed I'd probably be screwed, but the money I'd use to buy it is in an IRA, so my choices of funds are limited, plus I wouldn't want to have $30,000 worth of bullion at home.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:55 PM (4Mv1T)

239 I passed a kidney stone once that was I swear to God 3/8" in one dimension. I toldmy doctor I was blessed that the tube it passed through was so large. Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 11:53 PM (b7yum) Lucky...

Posted by: Hank Hill at March 02, 2014 07:55 PM (AymDN)

240 222 220
Berserker...nailed it in 1. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:51 PM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)

There are further wrinkles....as in legislators voting against a state going "right-to-work" and getting political funds from unions derived from their now-mandatory dues. But that's the general tone of the graft in a nicely summarized nutshell.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:55 PM (T1005)

241 if I can just get to sleep, maybe I can dream that it will be warm when I wake up. Good night, Gracies. Be of good cheer. it's not just a good idea. It's a command!

Posted by: zombie mindful webworker at March 02, 2014 07:55 PM (GwyfB)

242 229 You're welcome for the visual. Now think of something else.

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 07:55 PM (b7yum)

243 McCounaghy thanking God Oh, no!!!. Will he now be blacklisted?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:56 PM (XyM/Y)

244 he spoke of God, humility, respecting yourself, striving to achieve

Posted by: thunderb at March 02, 2014 07:57 PM (zOTsN)

245 223 I wonder: Are people at all embarrassed by showing up in the emergency room and having these sorts of odd things extracted or do they just get them removed, recover and go back to the same beyond odd activities?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:51 PM (XyM/Y)

I'm going to guess that for some of them its not an either or situation. Probably embarrassed but as soon as its removed they'll be back to doing it again, maybe just trying to not get stuck again.

Posted by: buzzion at March 02, 2014 07:57 PM (LI48c)

246 Tobacco Road: Buy a gunsafe, and bolt it to the basement floor.

If you aren't shy about having $30,000 worth of guns and cars, why fret about bullion?

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 07:57 PM (c6N69)

247 You're All Racists wins.

Posted by: Adam at March 02, 2014 07:57 PM (Aif/5)

248 He spoke of humility? That's rather impressive.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 07:58 PM (XyM/Y)

249
After a concert, I has hospitalized for removal of a turkey baster from my ass.

Posted by: Johnny Mathis at March 02, 2014 07:58 PM (nQjHM)

250 McConaughey's marriage and children really caused him to grow up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 07:58 PM (DmNpO)

251 246 Not a hard call to make these days. The title alone ensured it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 07:58 PM (ojnk6)

252 223 I wonder: Are people at all embarrassed by showing up in the emergency room and having these sorts of odd things extracted or do they just get them removed, recover and go back to the same beyond odd activities?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 11:51 PM (XyM/Y)

Embarrassed? Probably not.

Shame is very under-rated...

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at March 02, 2014 07:59 PM (AC0lD)

253 he spoke of God, humility, respecting yourself, striving to achieve>>

The point of being your own hero 10 years out was I thought quite inspiring.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 07:59 PM (TI3xG)

254 237 TR - You looking at junk silver, or bars?

Posted by: Mike Hammer
----------------------------

Junk silver and Eagles to have in my hand, but no too much.

For the mentioned hedge? Buying shares of SLV that would not be in my hand, but part of an investment portfolio. If the SHTF, and the markets closed I'd probably be screwed, but the money I'd use to buy it is in an IRA, so my choices of funds are limited, plus I wouldn't want to have $30,000 worth of bullion at home.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 11:55 PM (4Mv1T) Hide posts from (4Mv1T)

I've heard rumors (not just zerohedge, but they're all over it) that precious-metal funds routinely claim to own more precious metals than actually exist.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 07:59 PM (T1005)

255 Tobacco Road: Buy a gunsafe, and bolt it to the basement floor.

If you aren't shy about having $30,000 worth of guns and cars, why fret about bullion?
Posted by: Kristophr
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I have a gun safe.

Think man.

Precious metals are "bearer bond". Stolen guns and cars, not so much.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 07:59 PM (4Mv1T)

256 These days? They are proud.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:53 PM (ojnk6)

How dare we as a society shun them. One day this discrimination will stop and people who like to stick things up their urethras will be able to stand up in public and be proud of who they are!

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 02, 2014 07:59 PM (lr3d7)

257 Oh, and if rectal insertion bothers you, do not ever look up "Jar Squatter video".

( shatter ) "Mommy ..."

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 07:59 PM (c6N69)

258 The take-away Â… Think of the commercial for Prego spaghetti sauce. A woman wonders what other bad decisions sheÂ’s made (like the 70′s). We all know this wonÂ’t occur to anybody at the White House, but perhaps they have made other bad decisions.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 02, 2014 08:00 PM (e8kgV)

259 255 LOL. This is truly where we're at or going to shortly.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:01 PM (ojnk6)

260 I've heard rumors (not just zerohedge, but they're all over it) that precious-metal funds routinely claim to own more precious metals than actually exist.
Posted by: cthulhu
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Now this is a real concern, and I've been considering it. Like all the gold that is no longer in Ft Knox.

Last time someone one saw it was '53 as I recall.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:01 PM (4Mv1T)

261 TR: Guns are also damned near "bearer bond".

On option is to buy bullion jewelry ... spending Gold Eagles might get the attention of bad people, but someone selling bits of his wife's jewelry just looks desperate.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:01 PM (c6N69)

262 I think this Steve McQueen guy should spell his name Steeve or something. Anything to distinguish him from the REAL Steve McQueen. Better yet, he should call himself Steven McQueen. Or Stevie McQueen.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 02, 2014 08:01 PM (dfYL9)

263 "Last time someone one saw it was '53 as I recall."

Not that it matters. Thank you, President Nixon.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:02 PM (AW7Gr)

264 Thx for the prayers for Shirley, fellow rons and ronettes. I'm grateful. Now I'll try to go to sleep until the darn Lyme Disease Insomnia kicks in at 4:30. Have a peaceful and restful night.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 02, 2014 08:03 PM (XyM/Y)

265 cthulhu: Which is a damned good reason to only buy bullion to hold.

I wouldn't buy warehouse receipts unless I was forced to ( example: a bullion IRA ).

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:03 PM (c6N69)

266 261 I think this Steve McQueen guy should spell his name Steeve or something. Anything to distinguish him from the REAL Steve McQueen. ------------- Steve McQueen is his slave name. His African name is Desmond McQueen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2014 08:04 PM (eL/q6)

267 253 Cth, I've read the same . I own some, but make sure it's in my physical, posession rather than in paper ownership. If things go sideways, bankruptcy of the oaper PM firms and screwing of investors is only a team of attorneys and a court filing away.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:04 PM (ojnk6)

268 I'm the kind of Spaceship Captain who would post a list of who was least important to the mission, and thus first out of the airlock - should the necessity arise.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 08:04 PM (4JkHl)

269 Not a hard call to make these days. The title alone ensured it. *** it didn't win for best actor, director, music, or any of the technical categories, but... best picture.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 08:05 PM (DmNpO)

270 I think Audrey Hepburn was beautiful & she was a wonderful lady. I believe she was the head or very high up in UNICEF or some other relief group. She is in two of my old favorite movies, Breakfast at TiffanyÂ’s (I know Capote wrote that for Marilyn Monroe) & My Fair Lady.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 08:05 PM (z4WKX)

271 252 The point of being your own hero 10 years out was I thought quite inspiring. Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 11:59 PM (TI3xG) ----------------- Very.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 02, 2014 08:05 PM (dfYL9)

272 Can't wait until 12 Years A Slave is turned into a musical.

Let It Go would actually be a great opening.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 02, 2014 08:05 PM (ZwFP/)

273 268 Understood, but isn't that the grand Oscar prize?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:06 PM (ojnk6)

274 I'm sorely disappointed in the night shift given that the phrase 'EMBEDDED DOMINO IN PENIS "TO PLEASE THE LADIES" ' has not yet been used in a sentence. It's like I don't even know you people anymore.

Posted by: dogfish at March 02, 2014 08:06 PM (nsOJa)

275 273 Ribbed for her pleasure?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:08 PM (ojnk6)

276 265 Steve McQueen is his slave name. His African name is Desmond McQueen.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 03, 2014 12:04 AM (eL/q6)
Any relation to Butterfly?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2014 08:09 PM (YgTB4)

277 266 253
Cth, I've read the same . I own some, but make sure it's in my physical, posession rather than in paper ownership. If things go sideways, bankruptcy of the oaper PM firms and screwing of investors is only a team of attorneys and a court filing away. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 12:04 AM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)

When TSHTF, I'd guess the lifespan of paper ownership would be somewhere in the range of single-digit milliseconds.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 08:09 PM (T1005)

278 Incidentally, the biggest earner on Wall Street, number one on the list last year? George Soros, according to Forbes. Damn those Koch brothers!!!1!!!1!!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2014 08:09 PM (zfY+H)

279 276 Exactly.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:10 PM (ojnk6)

280

morning horde.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 08:11 PM (ga+7c)

281 So Gravity was nominated for 10 Oscars and won 7. Not too shabby. I'm glad Alfonso CuarÃ³n won Best Director. That's the one I really cared about. I'm also happy that it cleaned up in the technical awards. I didn't expect it to win Best Picture, but I was sort of rooting for Sandra Bullock to win Best Actress. Oh, well. The nominations were good enough.

Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2014 08:11 PM (sdi6R)

282 Ed O'Keefe ‏@edatpost 2h House Foreign Affairs Committee schedules first congressional hearing on crisis in #Ukraine for Thursday @ 9:30am Thursday. By then this dang thing may be over.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2014 08:12 PM (DmNpO)

283 I'm sorely disappointed in the night shift given that the phrase 'EMBEDDED DOMINO IN PENIS "TO PLEASE THE LADIES" ' has not yet been used in a sentence. >>

I knew a Filipino guy that explained to me how they have those airsoft silicone BBs sewn just below the skin on their dicks. And how it was an improvement over the old copper BBs. The part that shocked me even more that all this was done in some dirty office off an open air market. I kinda like my dick I'd never put him in that kind of danger.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 08:13 PM (TI3xG)

284 >>>It's like I don't even know you people anymore.

Posted by: dogfish at March 03, 2014 12:06 AM (nsOJa)<<<

maybe I should start reading from the top of the thread.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 08:13 PM (ga+7c)

285 Confucius say: "Man who stick dice up penis, sooner or later going to roll snake-eyes." Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2014 11:48 PM (yDmQD) lol!

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 02, 2014 08:13 PM (UOjzE)

286 Wow meandered back to #10.

Okay, back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 02, 2014 08:13 PM (GKbOt)

287 It isn't just problems with paper.

Banks often loan out depositor assets, and unfortunately, many gold depositories pull the same crap.

The German government demanded repatriation of over 400 tons of gold the Federal Reserve was supposed to have stored for them ( they paid rent for the vault space ).

They refused to do so, and are only repatriating 5 tons at a time ... and the bars they did repatriate did not have any of the original markings on them. So not only did they "lend" the bars, but the probably sold them, and the Fed didn't even own them in the first place ... while fraudulently charging storage fees.

I suggest buying gold or silver and storing it yourself.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:13 PM (c6N69)

288 I'm not talking about ever taking possession of said precious metals. Simply investing. If it goes to $500 an ounce, why couldn't that investment simply be sold, provided the markets aren't closed?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:18 PM (4Mv1T)

289 TLC has a show called Sex Sent Me to the ER.

One of them. Guy inserts a homemade sex toy up his squeakhole. Sends him to the ER with all the signs of a heart attack. When the doctor gets the X-ray back and sees what is there, well pregnant pause was in order. So he goes get an item from the Obstectrics a machine that uses negative pressure to convince a baby to come on out and get taxed. Needless to say the doctor successfully delivered a sex toy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 02, 2014 08:18 PM (GKbOt)

290 "...provided the markets aren't closed?"

You just answered your own question!

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:19 PM (AW7Gr)

291 Given the recent ammo shortages, esp. in .22LR, I might have to update my Burning times ammo as currency chart. Everything seems to be clustering around .25-.50 a round.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 08:19 PM (4JkHl)

292 "...provided the markets aren't closed?"

You just answered your own question!
Posted by: navybrat
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The money to invest is in a retirement account. I can't liquidate it just to make this purchase, like most folks.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:21 PM (4Mv1T)

293 TR if you have time, and haven't yet read it, Currency Wars by James Rickards was a pretty solid read. He got into precious metals, rare earths, currency, executive order 6102, etc. More of a macro look, but you might find something helpful with your silver thoughts.

Posted by: scampydog at March 02, 2014 08:21 PM (xYb8+)

294 if you are investing in precious metals and taking possession of 'em you may have difficulty divesting yourself of 'em in the future. if you are stockpiling for survival after some apocalyptic event that is a different matter. lots of guys that bought 'em some kruggerands in the 80s were stuck with 'em.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 08:22 PM (rDidD)

295 As for precious metals, if you can't own physical, I would pass on it.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:22 PM (AW7Gr)

296 287 I'm not talking about ever taking possession of said precious metals. Simply investing. If it goes to $500 an ounce, why couldn't that investment simply be sold, provided the markets aren't closed?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 03, 2014 12:18 AM (4Mv1T) Hide posts from (4Mv1T)

So, you're thinking of buying 100 ounces of silver at $20, when you already know that the person selling it to you only has 20 ounces on-hand and has IOUs for the other 80.....and expecting that someone will pay you $500 for the same 100 ounces of gold when TSHTF, and the guy who sold it to you has no ounces on-hand and 100 ounces of IOUs? Even if the market is open, I'm not seeing that as a probable outcome.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 08:22 PM (T1005)

297 292 You actually can, but with about a 33% up front loss just to taxes. So, this would be an especially risky thing to do.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:24 PM (ojnk6)

298 Oh, the poor owner of Kruggerands.
Weep for him. Yeh.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:24 PM (AW7Gr)

299 Thanks Y-5. This has been a concern. One thing to have some rolls of junk dimes and quarters. Another thing to have your life savings, or a portion of same tied up in a hard asset that requires your personal protection, and ability to liquidate.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:24 PM (4Mv1T)

300 "The money to invest is in a retirement account. I can't liquidate it just to make this purchase, like most folks."

Retirement accounts that give you the option to own physical metal, instead of dubious virtual/paper depository receipts, are pretty rare.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 08:24 PM (gqT4g)

301 "Retirement accounts that give you the option to own physical metal, instead of dubious virtual/paper depository receipts, are pretty rare."

Gee, I wonder why is that. Hmm. Maybe I better sit down....

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:26 PM (AW7Gr)

302 Retirement accounts that give you the option to own physical metal, instead of dubious virtual/paper depository receipts, are pretty rare.

Posted by: torquewrench
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That was the point. I can buy shares only.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:26 PM (4Mv1T)

303 My faith in humanity took another shot recently when I had to go get a kidney stone removed. Part of of the prep involved a bunch of stupid questions, the gist of which was - "Do you really have a kidney stone?".

So I asked WTF (I was kinda cranky)? Appearently, there exists a class of men who get some vicarious thrill from knowing or thinking about a nurse catheterizing them and doing all sorts of "extremely painful for weeks later shit" to their dick - while they are unconscious. The nurse was trying to sort that crap out of the system.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 08:28 PM (4JkHl)

304 Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 12:13 AM (c6N69)

Late to the conversation, I'm sure.

Has everyone seen the old schoolhouse rock video where they celebrate how banks multiply money? You put a dollar in the bank who lends it to some guy to buy a house. The guy he bought it from puts it in his bank who loans it to some chick who charged a pair of shoes and her shoe company banks it. That banks then loans it as student aid to a fifth year pot studies major who 'invests it in gardening tools. The hardware store banks it, and so on, and so on. Cycle 20 times and lookie, 20 different people got to spend the dollar, so success!

Except all those people who spent it now owe it, plus interest. And there's still just the one dollar. Well, there's other dollars, but they've all been through the same multiplication. So if everyone pulls their banks accounts because they'd rather have the dollar on their person, only one can have it and kaboom.

Since the banks got away with doing this with dollars for a long time, it's no surprise they did the same with other valuables they have access to (despite it being generally illegal for precisely the above reason).

And that's not even getting into the Corzine situation where he disappeared a billion and a half dollars, and gold belonging to other folks which he hadn't leant out, was seized to pay the cash losses.

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 08:28 PM (hO9ad)

305 So the cumulative wisdom of the Horde is that this investment strategy sucketh mightily.

I DO try to be creative.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:29 PM (4Mv1T)

306 "Oh, the poor owner of Kruggerands. Weep for him. Yeh."

I know a couple of people who committed to gold as their long term ace in the hole (apologies to the esteemed Ewok proprietor) many decades ago.

One of them held a stash of K-coins from the late-seventies early-eighties constant dollar peak until the very nadir of the market, finally lost faith, and sold them all at an absolutely colossal loss.

He bottom ticked the decline to within a couple of months.

I remember thinking at the time he sold, "Holy crap, if this guy with his iron determination is finally selling, I should be buying with both fists." Best investment advice I never took. Goddamnit.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 08:29 PM (gqT4g)

307 Just as an aside -- the next time the market crashes, I expect a big push to swap blown-up 401Ks for government-sponsored retirement annuities.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 08:29 PM (T1005)

308 The other hedge investment is tillable land. I rent some out currently that covers the taxes. And if things go to shit having that land to grow food on may be better than money. Investing is an area of life where diversity can be a real advantage.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 08:29 PM (TI3xG)

309 Here is the thing with silver (or almost any other PM).
You buy your shares and so far, so good.
Then, a new mine opens up some where in Mexico, India, etc.
And there you are with a big haircut.

At least if you have the physical metal you can barter or trade or sell when YOU choose.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:29 PM (AW7Gr)

310 Torquewrench, I apologize for responding to your comment on my oncologist Thursday,I fell asleep before I could read your response to mine, if I managed to post it. I think IÂ’m suffering from lack of sunlight here in MA. I keep curtains & blinds closed so they do not damage furniture. The only time I see sunshine is on my way to work, if it is out. It usually takes 20 minutes to get to my office.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 08:29 PM (z4WKX)

311 Retirement accounts that give you the option to own
physical metal, instead of dubious virtual/paper depository receipts,
are pretty rare.

I looked into it once for a self directed IRA. There are some in which you purchase the gold/silver and then they hold it for you in a safe guarded place, but the problem comes in that they charge you storage fees which can eat away at your savings. (you can't take possession as it is just like cashing out).

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 02, 2014 08:30 PM (gorVZ)

312 Fixed fortifications are monuments to Man's stupidity. Securing your valuables is certainly prudent, but if TSHTF, what lies between your ears will be far more valuable than what rests in your safe.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 02, 2014 08:31 PM (X9Mnx)

313 304 Yep, Fractional banking baby. Used to be a 5 to 1 ratio. Now at 20 to 1 and likely to get higher to prop upmthis complet3ly false economy. Woo hoo! Enjoy the ride!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:32 PM (ojnk6)

314 308 The other hedge investment is tillable land. I rent some out currently that covers the taxes. And if things go to shit having that land to grow food on may be better than money. Investing is an area of life where diversity can be a real advantage.
Posted by: The Hickster at March 03, 2014 12:29 AM (TI3xG) Hide posts from (TI3xG)

+++ (so long as it doesn't require Federal water....I'm looking at you, Central Valley of CA)

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 08:32 PM (T1005)

315 The other hedge investment is tillable land. I rent some out currently that covers the taxes. And if things go to shit having that land to grow food on may be better than money. Investing is an area of life where diversity can be a real advantage.
Posted by: The Hickster
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I have some farmland also and the rent covers taxes. But from an investment standpoint, it is extremly long term.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:33 PM (4Mv1T)

316 310 Torquewrench,

I apologize for responding to your comment on my oncologist Thursday,I fell asleep before I could read your response to mine, if I managed to post it.

I think IÂ’m suffering from lack of sunlight here in MA. I keep curtains & blinds closed so they do not damage furniture. The only time I see sunshine is on my way to work, if it is out. It usually takes 20 minutes to get to my office.
Posted by: Carol at March 03, 2014 12:29 AM (z4WKX) Hide posts from (z4WKX)

I hope you're taking Vitamin D supplements.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 08:33 PM (T1005)

317 Hmmm ...

I still consider the US stock market to be too risky for an IRA.

If you denominate the DJI in ounces of gold, the Dow has gone from 43 ounces in 1980, to 14 ounces today. Basically, anyone investing in the US stock market has lost more than a third of their real purchasing power over the last 40 years.

There are some reputable metal IRAs out there, but they may not be fungible in the event of a zombie apocalypse ... you still take your chances.

Talk to these guys: goldsilver.com/ira/

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:33 PM (c6N69)

318 "One of them held a stash of K-coins from the late-seventies early-eighties constant dollar peak until the very nadir of the market, finally lost faith, and sold them all at an absolutely colossal loss."

Your acquaintance is an idiot. You never buy PM with money you need to pay the rent.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:33 PM (AW7Gr)

319 "I knew a Filipino guy that explained to me how they have those airsoft silicone BBs sewn just below the skin on their dicks. And how it was an improvement over the old copper BBs."

I have very little time in grade in Japan, but someone who spent two decades there and speaks the language to native fluency says that the yakuza will sometimes have chrome-steel pachinko balls implanted similarly. A lot bigger than a BB.

I'm guessing that the yak don't often have to worry about getting through a Stateside airport security procedure with same.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 08:33 PM (gqT4g)

320 I hope you're taking Vitamin D supplements. Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 12:33 AM (T1005) Amen. I was skeptical but it does help.

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 08:35 PM (MtC8f)

321 "Torquewrench, I apologize for responding to your comment on my oncologist Thursday, I fell asleep before I could read your response to mine, if I managed to post it."

No worries. We're in different time zones.

"I think IÂ’m suffering from lack of sunlight here in MA."

See what cthulthu said about Vitamin D. Strongly endorsed.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 08:37 PM (gqT4g)

322 Here's the problem with our society.

Interest in having money in a collapse, and interest in having BBs sewed into your schmeckle.

Priorities, anyone?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 02, 2014 08:37 PM (4Mv1T)

323 Koch is the newer Haliburton....

Posted by: @ParisParamus at March 02, 2014 08:37 PM (ztMkL)

324 So how was everybody's Oscar Themed Party tonight?

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 08:37 PM (MtC8f)

325 Of course, skills are definitely proof against disaster.

Paper may be valueless, but you can still trade, say, welding or electrician skills for food.

And of course, anyone who can give a good blowjob is welcome in most cities.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:38 PM (c6N69)

326 323= Soros is the new Stalin. Thanks for pathetically attempting to play.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:38 PM (ojnk6)

327 And apparently there is a future in pachinko ball implanting.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:38 PM (c6N69)

328 Investments in order of precedence if things go bad:

1. Useful Education, Faith, Family, and Good Friends
2. Rural property that can sustain you
3. Guns and Tools
4. Medical supplies
5. Modest amounts of bullion in small volumes
6. Modest amounts of barter grade assets
7. Rental property (might not get cash, but services)
8. Energy (stored fuel, gas well, falling water, batteries ...)
9. Cash, I-Bonds, Dividend producing stocks, REIT with revenue
10. Annuity
11. Cash in a trust to buy real estate or stock in blue chips, utilities, and energy companies whose price drops -- for the long term.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 08:39 PM (4JkHl)

329 326: looks like a hobo found a 24hr wifi hotspot.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:39 PM (c6N69)

330 land is also good, if you are strong enough .

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 08:41 PM (rDidD)

331 329 Seems so. Wipe your shoes, alll.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:42 PM (ojnk6)

332 323= Soros is the new Stalin. Thanks for pathetically attempting to play. Posted by: ManWithNoParty

I'm saving some popcorn for the Putin-Soros rematch. Putin is not going to forget Soros' role.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 08:42 PM (4JkHl)

333 323 ParisParamus Are you F.ParisParamus?

Posted by: Arbalest at March 02, 2014 08:43 PM (FlRtG)

334 "The other hedge investment is tillable land. I rent some out currently that covers the taxes. And if things go to shit having that land to grow food on may be better than money."

Tillable land with water you control.

Or that you can pump out of a durable aquifer without external energy inputs and/or government subsidies.

There's a metric shit-ton of superb ag land in central/southern Commiefornia going fallow (and bankrupting the people who own it) because it came down to a choice between giving them their subsidized government water, and possibly endangering an obscure bait fish, the Delta smelt.

The obscure bait fish won.

WRT "external energy inputs", there are lots of farmers not addicted to subsidies, who are just fine on water until the supplies of diesel to run their pumps are interrupted, in which case they promptly crap out on their crops.

Note that supplies of diesel have not yet been declared to be a fundamental 'oomin right.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 08:43 PM (gqT4g)

335 I converted all my silver into BB sized pellets and had them surgically inserted under the skin of my penis. Hidden storage and it pleases the ladies.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 02, 2014 08:43 PM (lr3d7)

336 325 Of course, skills are definitely proof against disaster.

Paper may be valueless, but you can still trade, say, welding or electrician skills for food.

And of course, anyone who can give a good blowjob is welcome in most cities.
Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 12:38 AM (c6N69) Hide posts from (c6N69)

Part of this involves the skills and supplies of the trade. I've got a coil of romex and some random switches and boxes in the garage, for instance, in case I need to be a jackleg electrician.

And then, there's marketing.....Helen Thomas could have been the ultimate artiste in the art of giving a hummer -- but with her potential customers limited to the blind......

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 08:44 PM (T1005)

337 Interest in having money in a collapse, and interest in having BBs sewed into your schmeckle.

Priorities, anyone?>>

Having family is more important to survival than money. If that goal required me having BBs sewed into my schmeckle. It could have been a good investment.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 08:44 PM (TI3xG)

338 If Putin gets a hold of Soros, he is likely to threaten to ship him to Israel to stand trial for the crap he did to Jews as a Hitler Youth.

I'm sure he can squeeze a few billion out of the wretch.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:44 PM (c6N69)

339 Interest in having money in a collapse, and interest in having BBs sewed into your schmeckle. Priorities, anyone? Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 03, 2014 12:37 AM (4Mv1T) This may be totally off the mark but instead of watching the praise to pedophiles show I watched a marathon of jail house tats. I always wanted to know why they would tat their face.. Basically intimidation, and they just don't care. I can see the reasoning, but could never do it. Oh, and there was an episode about Oakland. Looks worse than Somalia.

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 08:45 PM (MtC8f)

340 332 I bet on Putin. Soros is a grave dancer, a crasher of currencies for profit. Of course, that old Nazi thing might give Vlad an extra impetus to reward a Spetsnaz Sniper for a great shot....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:45 PM (ojnk6)

341 One of my doctors had me have a bone density test years ago. I have taken Calcium since 2000. I was told I needed Vitamin D. Calcium is tough on your stomach. I went through several brands before I added the lemon flavor chewable calcium with vitamin D at dinner & I take the other calcium, magnesium brand I liked almost 14 years ago & take it at work with Centrum for D. ItÂ’s not that cold here now. I have all my dark mens sweatshirts in washing machine to go into dryer. Good Night, Horde.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 08:45 PM (z4WKX)

342 Hide posts from (c6N69)

Is there an idiot filter here? Is this some kind of premium feature?

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:47 PM (c6N69)

343 None of this arguing over where to hide money and guns in a SHTF scenario would even be necessary without certain administrations converting your basic citizenship in to liability.

Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2014 08:48 PM (AW7Gr)

344 Note that supplies of diesel have not yet been declared to be a fundamental 'oomin right.

Posted by: torquewrench

Remember the wheel from Conan.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 08:48 PM (4JkHl)

345 ItÂ’s not that cold here now. I have all my dark mens sweatshirts in washing machine to go into dryer. ----- Good night Carol, stay warm. I have to tell you, that parting comment would, for anyone other than yourself, of course, produce ribald commentary.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 08:48 PM (aDwsi)

346 342 It' s probably a one and done. Not worth the effort.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:49 PM (ojnk6)

347 340 332
I bet on Putin. Soros is a grave dancer, a crasher of currencies for profit. Of course, that old Nazi thing might give Vlad an extra impetus to reward a Spetsnaz Sniper for a great shot.... Posted by: ManWithNoParty

Polonium would be too kind.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 08:49 PM (4JkHl)

348 1 metric ton of dead hobo can be converted by heat depolymerization into 80 gallons of Soylent Diesel.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:50 PM (c6N69)

349 "land is also good, if you are strong enough"

For a while there, people were telling me there was a vogue on television for "period" householder shows. Take a randomly selected modern family and have them live for a few months the way that a family of previous centuries would have had to live. With all of the exhausting inconveniences of same.

Never saw any myself, but I am told the genre are often called "_____ House". Colonial House, Frontier House, et cetera.

I'm wondering about "EMP House" or "Hyperinflation House" or "Lethal Pandemic House".

Any one of which will surely test how strong their inhabitants are. Nonmechanized agriculture is a stone cold bitch for people who are not in sub-fortysomething exceptional physical shape.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 08:51 PM (gqT4g)

350 80 gals. per metric ton? It's gonna take a lot of hobo's to run the generator.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 02, 2014 08:52 PM (aDwsi)

351 Non-mechanized agriculture is a stone cold bitch for people who actually ARE in sub-fortysomething exceptional physical shape.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:53 PM (c6N69)

352 "Is there an idiot filter here? Is this some kind of premium feature?

Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 12:47 AM (c6N69)"

Been wondering about that, myself.

Posted by: Saber Alter at March 02, 2014 08:53 PM (DNu5Y)

353 From the "rectum" post: "CLASSMATE PUT A ROCK IN EAR, HAS PIECE OF PAPER IN OTHER EAR" Um... did he have scissors in his mouth? Because it seems odd not to complete the game properly.

Posted by: gekkobear at March 02, 2014 08:53 PM (2zHxV)

354 347 I was thinking more about a long range .50 strategically placed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 08:54 PM (ojnk6)

355 gekkobear: Choose Scissors, because Hitler always chooses Paper.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:54 PM (c6N69)

356 Cthulhu. I have two pounds of Campari tomatoes to try another version of your roasted tomatoes but I had to get that cleaning bug today.

Posted by: Carol at March 02, 2014 08:56 PM (z4WKX)

357 Yep, Fractional banking baby. Used to be a 5 to 1 ratio. Now at 20 to 1 and likely to get higher to prop upmthis complet3ly false economy. Woo hoo! Enjoy the ride!

The Last I saw anywhere it was somewhere around 30 here and estimated at 100 (!) in London.

This multiplicative effect is also why you can have 2 or 3 trillion physical dollars in circulation and have the fed print another trillion in a years time and not immediately blow the monetary system all to hell (the fact that so much of this is purely digital is more of a complication). In stead of expanding the money supply from 3 to 4 (which should immediately cause 33% inflation), it's an expansion from, say, 3x30=90 to 91 (a little more than 1% inflation, and who would even notice that). It even brings the overall multiplier down (90/3=30 to 91/4=22.75).

At least until the new money gets multiplied, which takes some time.

Oh, and it has to continue being multiplied because while I mentioned in my previous comment that the whole thing blows up if everyone lays claim to the same dollar, that's not the only death available. Since the multiplication occurs due to lending, anyone paying off their debts is working against it. So if you get a point where people are generally paying off their debts, the chain of multiplication unwinds and the Fed gets its dollar back. Except that every step a long the way there was interest being charged and there are no dollars available to pay it (since each of them is busy unwinding, too).

And note that none of this systemic situation is affected by 'working hard', 'meaning well', or 'being responsible.' Obviously some individuals who make better decisions can manage to not be the points where the system breaks, but that just (mathematically) means the breaks occur elsewhere, as they must happen.

Oh by the way. Since the population of earth, a country, or whatever group this system applies to is finite, you will reach a point where there aren't enough people to take on the new debt that keeps it all going.

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 08:57 PM (hO9ad)

358 342 Hide posts from (c6N69)

Is there an idiot filter here? Is this some kind of premium feature?
Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 12:47 AM (c6N69) Hide posts from (c6N69)

There is a story about this....

So, the deal is, things were a bit rough about a month ago.....and I'd noticed that Merovign had this in his quotes and asked him about it. It's a script to load into your browser so that you can blank off a particular commenter. So I loaded it.

I've used it three times -- once for a guy who was banhammered later the same night; once for someone who later disappeared (don't know if banned); and once on a 'ron in good standing who I felt was messing with an 'ette in an unkind and unhelpful way [despite having run off the 'ette, I unbanned him later that same night....and saw the 'ette in question some days later][it was probably helpful for me not to interact with the 'ron in question while this was still an active issue].

OTOH, I've been questioned about the obnoxious "Hide posts from (XXXXX)" message well over a DOZEN times. I fully intend to go into the script and replace it with "(X)" or "*". I just haven't gotten to it yet.

I'd recommend getting the script from Merovign, as it is very handy -- but it's not unflawed.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 08:57 PM (T1005)

359 Methos:

All Ponzi schemes eventually fail, and all fiat currencies go to zero value.

All of them. No exceptions.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 08:58 PM (c6N69)

360 357 Absolutely. My post did not take into account the multiplier yours did, except for the toally false economy aspect. We're livingmin fantasy land now. Eventually, such as when the Dollar is no longer the reserve currency, it all comes down.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 09:00 PM (ojnk6)

361 That's OK, cthulhu. Idiots amuse me still.

Now if lace wig spam re-appears, I might want it ...

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:00 PM (c6N69)

362 "Oh, and there was an episode about Oakland. Looks worse than Somalia."

Minor quibble. The Somalis have heavier weapons than the Oaktown crowd do.

RPGs, mortars. And "technicals", which are basically Toyota pickup trucks, with whatever random leftover weaponry from the era when Somalia was a Soviet client state welded into the cargo bed. Usually machine guns, but sometimes bigger.

It is rumored that the most feared technical is the type with the quad 23mm cannon rig from the ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" antiaircraft system. I would shit down my pants leg if something like that even pointed anywhere close to where I was standing, never mind having it actually shoot. I can't believe you could put that in a lightweight truck without destroying or tipping the truck.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 09:00 PM (gqT4g)

363 Any one of which will surely test how strong their inhabitants are. Nonmechanized agriculture is a stone cold bitch for people who are not in sub-fortysomething exceptional physical shape. Posted by: torquewrench oh yeah, you have to worry about the physical energy, I was primarily referring to being able to hold on to the land and / or use it and / or hold on to the finished products. I have some but I am not sure it is useful for much beyond a fortress.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 09:01 PM (rDidD)

364 "All Ponzi schemes eventually fail, and all fiat currencies go to zero value."

But when, its like surfing - when do you pull out

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 09:01 PM (4JkHl)

365 Investments in order of precedence if things go bad: 1. Useful Education, Faith, Family, and Good Friends Everything below this can be taken away. Often with the stroke of a pen. There is no such thing as a powerful hermit.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 02, 2014 09:01 PM (X9Mnx)

366 Posted by: Methos at March 03, 2014 12:57 AM (hO9ad) Hide posts from (hO9ad)

Nice comment -- sounds like you "get it".

Oddly enough, my '83 Bachelors is in Bus Econ.....and I didn't "get it" until much later. When did you?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:02 PM (T1005)

367 If you denominate the DJI in ounces of gold, the Dow has gone from 43 ounces in 1980, to 14 ounces today. Basically, anyone investing in the US stock market has lost more than a third of their real purchasing power over the last 40 years.

And that's being generous since the DJIA regularly replaces unrepresentative stocks in its mix with more representative stocks.

Which is to say the swap out the cheap crap for stuff that's on the way up at no cost, which you can't do using actual stocks and money.

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 09:02 PM (hO9ad)

368 ManWithNoParty:

The only thing hold it up right now is the fact that all the western democracies were suckered into trading their gold reserves for dollars, were left holding this green paper when Nixon repudiated the Bretton Woods agreement, and are desperately trying to hide this house of cards with bullcrap and straw.

China is desperately buying up gold for good reason.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:04 PM (c6N69)

369 Jean: right now.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:04 PM (c6N69)

370 So how was everybody's Oscar Themed Party tonight?

Posted by: RWC at March 03, 2014 12:37 AM (MtC8f)

You mean the one where I played LotRO all night and watched Swap Thing off the DVR?

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 09:04 PM (hO9ad)

371 Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2014 01:01 AM (X9Mnx Family and good friends will be taken as well.q

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 09:04 PM (MtC8f)

372 I can't believe you could put that in a lightweight truck without destroying or tipping the truck.

Posted by: torquewrench

You can't. Even a 12.7mm will be impossible to hold on a point of aim with a commercial suspension. You have to worry about the first few rounds - the rest are going high and wild. I say this as a guy who has footage of a LAV with a 105mm on it's side.

If the goat herders knew what they were doing, the truck mounted mortars could be a real pia.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 09:05 PM (4JkHl)

373 365 Investments in order of precedence if things go bad:

1. Useful Education, Faith, Family, and Good Friends

Everything below this can be taken away. Often with the stroke of a pen.

There is no such thing as a powerful hermit. Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2014 01:01 AM (X9Mnx) Hide posts from (X9Mnx)

Missed "neighbors". Seriously, if you can't leave your key with your neighbor to let the plumber in....move.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:05 PM (T1005)

374 Jean: right now.
Posted by: Kristophr

Can't , its Sunday night.

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 09:06 PM (4JkHl)

375

It is rumored that the most feared technical is the type with the quad 23mm cannon rig from the ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" antiaircraft system. I would shit down my pants leg if something like that even pointed anywhere close to where I was standing, never mind having it actually shoot. I can't believe you could put that in a lightweight truck without destroying or tipping the truck.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 03, 2014 01:00 AM (gqT4g)

They've gotten even more complex in the past twenty years. Anti-tank weaponry, AA guns, even a BMP turret for one.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 02, 2014 09:06 PM (lr3d7)

376 370 So how was everybody's Oscar Themed Party tonight? Posted by: RWC at March 03, 2014 12:37 AM (MtC8f) You mean the one where I played LotRO all night and watched Swap Thing off the DVR? Posted by: Methos at March 03, 2014 01:04 AM (hO9ad) As Admiral Akbaar would say...It's a trap!

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 09:06 PM (MtC8f)

377 Missed "neighbors". Seriously, if you can't leave your key with your neighbor to let the plumber in....move.>>

Why did I lock the door?

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 09:07 PM (TI3xG)

378 "And that's being generous since the DJIA regularly replaces unrepresentative stocks in its mix with more representative stocks."

About a decade ago, I went through the stocks which at that time made up the supposed "Dow Jones Industrial Average" and considered each for its actual physical metal-bending industrial nature.

Good for a laugh, anyway. Even more laughable today.

But, y'know, if the Chinese decide to forcibly re-annex Taiwan, we can always unfriend them on Facebook. They'd never risk that.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 09:08 PM (gqT4g)

379 The Hickster:

I live in Wyoming, and had to put locks on the garage doors.

Section 8 assholes and asylum-seeking tribals are everywhere these days.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:09 PM (c6N69)

380 I have some but I am not sure it is useful for much beyond a fortress. Posted by: yankeefifth

All you need is enough for some chickens, vegetables, and enough trees for firewood. Now, if you want to thrive in the long term ...

Posted by: Jean at March 02, 2014 09:09 PM (4JkHl)

381 368 Grok that. I graduated with a Finance/Econ Major/Minor in '86. -Never ever heard a word about the way the system works until a guy who I worked for told me the truth in 1990. At the time, he was viewed as a wacko and retired comfortably. For all I know, he's a mini Soros by now. Never forgot what he said though, and profited accordingly.,

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 09:11 PM (ojnk6)

382 Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 03, 2014 01:06 AM (lr3d7) We should construct a plane that can take the abuse of the ZSU 23mm round as well as small arms fire. And then cancel it. Dumbasses in power.

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 09:11 PM (MtC8f)

383 Section 8 assholes and asylum-seeking tribals are everywhere these days.>>

It was a half joke. But where I live Locking the doors only means they need to break a window in the rear for access. It also means my neighbors know every car that has business in my driveway so breaker inner beware.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 09:13 PM (TI3xG)

384 All you need is enough for some chickens, vegetables, and enough trees for firewood. Now, if you want to thrive in the long term ... Posted by: Jean I am in nyc now but have a place out west, beyond misisssippi. as is in these times it is more than adequate for my family, and is a going concern. however, when it hits the fan I am not sure how long I would be able to hold on to everything I have there. my thought is lay in a lot of supplies and lay as low as possible for as long as possible. limitations to that as well. it is interesting to think about how you lay low in a world with thermal sensors and drones.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 09:13 PM (rDidD)

385 RWC: Those airframes will never die.

Every time the fighter mafia tries to have the A-10 scrapped, the Army demands control of them so they can put warrant officers in them.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:13 PM (c6N69)

386 Missed "neighbors". Seriously, if you can't leave your key with your neighbor to let the plumber in....move. Good point. Living in the city, it's amazing how many people (myself included) don't make much effort to secure such an important yet simple and mutually beneficial relationship

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 02, 2014 09:15 PM (X9Mnx)

387 The Hickster:

Thieves fear noise and time. A lock will send them down the street. Catching them in the act is better though.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:15 PM (c6N69)

388 Well, hell, if it ain't one thing, it's your mother.

I think I'll leave the obit to the professionals, when the time comes. Keep me out of hot water. And that darned fourth commandment issue, which has put me in the confessional more times than I can count.

Posted by: tcn at March 02, 2014 09:16 PM (fwcEs)

389 Night all. Here is "Roundabout" by Yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkGzjIq4aZI

Posted by: The Topographic Hat at March 02, 2014 09:16 PM (AymDN)

390 Still talking about the A-10?

Well could always ask Hagel that if they are obsolete then why was the flying fleet upgraded to A-10C PE in 2008. Things like HOTAS and HUD and MFD along with carriage of even more smart munitions.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 02, 2014 09:17 PM (GKbOt)

391 Thieves fear noise and time. A lock will send them down the street. Catching them in the act is better though.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 01:15 AM (c6N69)

I don't bother locking the front door. If they are foolish enough to try it, they will either get barked out the door or they will trip over the beagle in the dark. And odds are they will just try the next house instead.

Posted by: tcn at March 02, 2014 09:18 PM (fwcEs)

392 Well. It has been a somewhat eventful evening in the IRL channel. I have just learned (after 25 years together) that the Better Half would rather trade-in that credential for "fiancee".

I would have thought the stability and reliability of BH would be far superior....but, y'know, women......

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:18 PM (T1005)

393 361 That's OK, cthulhu. Idiots amuse me still. Now if lace wig spam re-appears, I might want it ... Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 01:00 AM (c6N69) I miss MACHINES FOR SALE.

Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2014 09:18 PM (sdi6R)

394 Every time the fighter mafia tries to have the A-10 scrapped, the Army demands control of them so they can put warrant officers in them. Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 01:13 AM (c6N69) I hope you're right. Tatal aside, but my favorite GI Joe toy was the Rattler. I guess the love of the A-10 was planted early.

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 09:18 PM (MtC8f)

395 Why the hate for ParisParamus? He pops in here from time to time, more a lurker than a troll. His comment that the Koch Brothers are the "new Halliburton" is a pretty concise description of the current state of the moonbats' pandaemonium. You go to Kos or Huffpoo, and that's pretty much what they say there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2014 09:19 PM (yDmQD)

396 regarding embarrassing in an emergency room, I have read a few stories over the years about couples every so often who are wheeled in on a stretcher, together in missionary or similar, because they were in the middle of messin' around and she cramped or clamped in some way that he cannot remove himself . only sayin' I read it in the newspapers

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 09:19 PM (rDidD)

397 "I live in Wyoming, and had to put locks on the garage doors. Section 8 assholes and asylum-seeking tribals are everywhere these days."

I can't recall where I read it, but it was from someone talking about their now elderly father in a tiny town way up a holler atop a crick in West Virginia, darkly predicting many decades ago that, "You know, a day will come when people here will have to lock up their barns at night."

And at the time that sentiment was voiced, it was total apocalyptic science fiction. Lock your barn? Are you kidding?

Yet fast forward to the present, and yep, if you live in that part of WV right now, you had better lock up the barn if there's anything of value inside.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 09:20 PM (gqT4g)

398 All Ponzi schemes eventually fail, and all fiat currencies go to zero value.

All of them. No exceptions.

Yup. All that matters is the time frame involved. If you're particularly clever (and evil) you come up with something that can last a good century or more so that everyone who set it up, and anyone they cared about is long dead before it ends. And when the end approaches, the people that have to deal with it have known no other way than trying to keep it going.

We're livingmin fantasy land now. Eventually, such as when the Dollar is no longer the reserve currency, it all comes down.

Yeah, the sheer volume of dollars in use around the rest of the world is a yet further complication. I don't know if there is any estimate of it. I don't know where those even go at the end. Probably wallpaper, since we aren't going to be trading whatever stuff we happen to have for it. What it will mean is that our ability to import dries up overnight, which fortunately isn't an issue since we used our turn as a great world power as an opportunity to set up a system of colonies that will continue supplying us with goods no matter what.

Oh, wait we didn't do that, and we're slashing the military as we speak.

Fuck.

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 09:21 PM (hO9ad)

399 395 That's how I read it

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 09:22 PM (b7yum)

400 392 Wow man, if you're saying what I think you are, I'm terribly sorry Cth. Especially considering how you found out about it, if I'm reading this correctly. Been there, done that, bare the emotional scars.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 09:22 PM (ojnk6)

401 Posted by: yankeefifth at March 03, 2014 01:19 AM (rDidD) You pay an extra 17,000 Thai Bhat in Thailand for that!q

Posted by: RWC at March 02, 2014 09:23 PM (MtC8f)

402 There is no such thing as a powerful hermit.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2014 01:01 AM (X9Mnx)

The fuck, you say?

Posted by: Obiwan Kenobi, pre ghost version at March 02, 2014 09:23 PM (hO9ad)

403 "Well. It has been a somewhat eventful evening in the IRL channel. I have just learned (after 25 years together) that the Better Half would rather trade-in that credential for 'fiancee'."

Ouch. Really? And this weekend just passed was supposed to have been a happy milestone, yes? With a lavish dinner? Sympathies.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 09:26 PM (gqT4g)

404 Is there an idiot filter here? Is this some kind of premium feature?

Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 12:47 AM (c6N69)

I think it is a greasemonkey script one of the horde wrote up. can zap on the hash.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 09:27 PM (ga+7c)

405 There is no such thing as a powerful hermit.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2014 01:01 AM (X9Mnx)
The fuck, you say?
Posted by: Obiwan Kenobi, pre ghost version>>

Pfft I am powerful hermit most. I swamp live in.

Posted by: Yoda at March 02, 2014 09:30 PM (TI3xG)

406 Bitches be crazy

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 09:30 PM (b7yum)

407 15 The candy cane X-ray is fake. There would be no difference between the red and white.
Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 10:37 PM (TI3xG)

What if they used metallic paint for the reds?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 02, 2014 09:30 PM (M9BzG)

408 And they like dropping the D bomb when it causes the most collateral damage.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:31 PM (c6N69)

409 The fuck, you say? Posted by: Obiwan Kenobi, pre ghost version at March 03, 2014 01:23 AM (hO9ad) Your only real power came from your ability to influence others. When you tried going it alone you got your ass shanked.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 02, 2014 09:31 PM (X9Mnx)

410 Oddly enough, my '83 Bachelors is in Bus Econ.....and I didn't "get it" until much later. When did you?

BS in Mathematics from the late 90s.

Been generally able to look at a numbers situation and see a problem with it since high school chemistry (okay, it's not that hard to realize that if the exponent in your scientific notation is significantly distant from 23, something has probably gone wrong).

Mostly got it over the last decade-had a conversation with a friend (who wasn't really a numbers guy) around 9/11 (unrelated to it, I just remember the conversation in terms of where he was living at the time) who had issues with money being debt. Karl Denninger lit the big lightbulbs for me, particularly the lilly pad analogy.

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 09:35 PM (hO9ad)

411

Posted by: Obiwan Kenobi, pre ghost version at March 03, 2014 01:23 AM (hO9ad)

saw the ewok documentary, The Return of the Jedi before I came in this morning. lol.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 09:35 PM (ga+7c)

412 The fuck, you say?

Posted by: Obiwan Kenobi, pre ghost version at March 03, 2014 01:23 AM (hO9ad)

Your only real power came from your ability to influence others. When you tried going it alone you got your ass shanked.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 03, 2014 01:31 AM (X9Mnx)

No shit. You would think he was powerful enough to say "This isn't the wrinkly old mofo in a robe you want to cut in half with a light saber"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 09:36 PM (FMbng)

413 What if they used metallic paint for the reds?>>

Titanium for white would make some sense if it was paint but not food. Iron oxide may also make some sense for red paint again it's food. But the density of sugar and food coloring will not change contrast in an X-ray.

Posted by: Yoda at March 02, 2014 09:36 PM (TI3xG)

414 413 crap sock and Titanium oxide for white paint.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 09:38 PM (TI3xG)

415 Oh, and I remember that schoolhouse rock video from whenever it aired originally sometime in the 80s. But I didn't really think about it specifically until recently.

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 09:40 PM (hO9ad)

416

Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 01:18 AM (T1005)

if I read that the right way sorry to hear that.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 09:40 PM (ga+7c)

417 Mogambo Guru and the good folks at Goldsilver.com for me.

Opened my eyes about how poorly the stock market was really doing, and how useless a DJI denominated in federal reserve notes is.

mogamboguru.blogspot.com
preview.tinyurl.com/qakhmxt

I used to really pimp the Dow and the S&P for retirement.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:40 PM (c6N69)

418 Have you got a pic of the Technical with the BMP Turret? That would be a great Idea for a model.

Posted by: GMB who is anti everything at March 02, 2014 09:41 PM (nkPV9)

419 400 392
Wow man, if you're saying what I think you are, I'm terribly sorry Cth. Especially considering how you found out about it, if I'm reading this correctly. Been there, done that, bare the emotional scars. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 01:22 AM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)

She's not going anywhere....it's just that we had a bit of an [extended] emotional discussion today regarding our future plans and the distinction slipped in sideways.

We both have managed people in California, and we've both seen peers ruined by absolutely bullshit lawsuits about "discrimination" -- as if a manager who couldn't discriminate between: net contributors and net problems; cases requiring discipline or tolerance; or individuals who could or couldn't benefit from mentoring to advance to the next level....could be more than worthless. That's what management is -- discrimination! Remaining unmarried helped firewall each other from the prospect of total loss....and, to boot, resulted in tax savings sufficient to send us on glorious vacations around the world.

I didn't let it get to me over the last 25 years....but it has evidently been a perpetual annoyance to her.

So, no....this is not a horrific change. It's a "I'm doing this because it pleases her, though I know not why...." deal.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:42 PM (T1005)

420 417 That used to be my job, did well. Left it for a job selling indespensable services (disaster recovery services) at the end of 1999. Great timing, the biz drove me batshit crazy, knowing what I know.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 09:43 PM (ojnk6)

421 Well. It has been a somewhat eventful evening in the IRL channel. I have just learned (after 25 years together) that the Better Half would rather trade-in that credential for "fiancee".

Congratulations?

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 09:44 PM (hO9ad)

422 @howardfineman 10m #AcademyAwards show diversity, tolerance, cultural creativity of US in Obama Era. Hard power matters, per Putin, but Oscars r as powerful. Posted by: Thrawn at March 02, 2014 10:41 PM (WlWt+) KBDaBear @kbdabear @howardfineman Gone With The Wind won Best Picture in 1939. Hitler still invaded Poland. Oscar can't win 'em all I guess

Posted by: kbdabear at March 02, 2014 09:44 PM (aTXUx)

423 410 Oddly enough, my '83 Bachelors is in Bus Econ.....and I didn't "get it" until much later. When did you?

BS in Mathematics from the late 90s.

Been generally able to look at a numbers situation and see a problem with it since high school chemistry (okay, it's not that hard to realize that if the exponent in your scientific notation is significantly distant from 23, something has probably gone wrong).

Mostly got it over the last decade-had a conversation with a friend (who wasn't really a numbers guy) around 9/11 (unrelated to it, I just remember the conversation in terms of where he was living at the time) who had issues with money being debt. Karl Denninger lit the big lightbulbs for me, particularly the lilly pad analogy.
Posted by: Methos at March 03, 2014 01:35 AM (hO9ad) Hide posts from (hO9ad)

Karl has laid it out well, effusively, clearly, and often. And if the data you see doesn't slot into that....don't worry, they'll revise it later.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:45 PM (T1005)

424 cthulhu:

Congrats on not being married before the separation. You may have avoided an asset-ectomy.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 02, 2014 09:46 PM (c6N69)

425 424 cthulhu:

Congrats on not being married before the separation. You may have avoided an asset-ectomy.
Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 01:46 AM (c6N69) Hide posts from (c6N69)

Again, no separation. BH is still BH in my book.....she just prefers flighty French terminology.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:49 PM (T1005)

426 Er, I'm not sure if I read what everyone else seems to be reading cooth, I thought you meant she wants to marry you-not getting that vibe from everyone else's responses.

*tries to step out of what ever is swallowing my foot up to the knee*

Posted by: Methos at March 02, 2014 09:50 PM (hO9ad)

427 Regarding the candy cane in the X-ray, there just might be a dye or flavoring agent in one of the stripes that fluoresces under X-ray bombardment. If a molecule of Red dye #3 absorbs an X-ray photon, and emits visible light in turn, that's an X-ray photon that doesn't make it to the detector. X-ray fluorescence is real, and it is used to identify minerals in geology labs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2014 09:51 PM (yDmQD)

428 419 CTH, I'm not sure if I understand that, but glad that you feel OK about it. Do yoy mean that you've just lived together and never made it legal? If that were the case, it would have been made legal by duration here in GA. Again, sorry for hoe you found out about this. If you would prefer not answer, understood.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 09:51 PM (ojnk6)

429 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 01:18 AM (T1005) I believe we are of a similar age, although I have a few years on you, and I think women of my generation want to be married ladies. Somewhere in the back of our minds, despite all your loving words, is the thought that you don't want to marry us, that we don't meet some standard, regardless of what very good reasons you may have for not wanting to get married. And she may well be content to remain a fiancee, just as long as you demonstrate that you would marry her if she wanted it that badly. Congratulations!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 09:51 PM (Pfvig)

430 And still a bit gobsmacked at how the fiancee thing all fell out. It's like someone with an international driver's license said, "no, put me down as having a California learner's permit."

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:52 PM (T1005)

431 Somewhere in the back of our minds, despite all your loving words, is the thought that you don't want to marry us, that we don't meet some standard, regardless of what very good reasons you may have for not wanting to get married.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 01:51 AM (Pfvig)

Frigging women, you can't live with them, and you can't break them up for parts. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 09:54 PM (FMbng)

432 She's a female; gobsmacking you with emotions coming seemingly out of nowhere is what she does best. We don't understand ourselves half the time.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 09:55 PM (Pfvig)

433 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2014 01:54 AM (FMbng) See, now Berserker GETS it!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 09:56 PM (Pfvig)

434 X-ray fluorescence is real, and it is used to identify minerals in geology labs.>>

But one would need to drive the Kv and Ma up to image the bones. Which would also take the contrast needed for a food dye detection out of the films contrast range.

Oh shit I skipped over noticing you mentioned X-ray Florescence instead of X-ray imaging. Way different detectors.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 09:56 PM (TI3xG)

435 Frigging women, you can't live with them, and you can't break them up for parts. lol

Well, actually...

Posted by: Buffalo Bill at March 02, 2014 09:58 PM (hO9ad)

436 43w Tammy, if I may, why is that? I understand internal confusion, Lord knows I've been there, but if you're honest enough to admit that, why does it get external in realtionships?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 09:58 PM (ojnk6)

437 428 419
CTH, I'm not sure if I understand that, but glad that you feel OK about it. Do yoy mean that you've just lived together and never made it legal? If that were the case, it would have been made legal by duration here in GA. Again, sorry for hoe you found out about this. If you would prefer not answer, understood. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 01:51 AM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)

No, it's ok. I live in California, the granola state, land of fruits and nuts....and it is positively dangerous to be a legally married heterosexual couple. So we've been a heterosexual couple that actually has been taking advantage of some domestic partnership laws . In a sane state [....in a sane country], we'd probably be married already....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 09:58 PM (T1005)

438

Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 01:42 AM (T1005)

well hope it all works out and congratuations on the future wedding bell maybe.

still trying to catch up and the money talk was interesting. Rothbard's "What has gov done to our money" is a short but good read too (think that is going to be my only contribution to the discussion).

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 09:59 PM (ga+7c)

439 I think X-ray film has gone the way of the dodo bird. Leastwise in medical use. They have some sort of solid-state detector like the CCD used in digital cameras.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 02, 2014 10:00 PM (yDmQD)

440 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 01:58 AM (ojnk6) I am not quite sure what you mean? 'splain it to Lucy a little more, por favor? Not sure what you mean by external in relationships...

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:02 PM (Pfvig)

441 429 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 01:18 AM (T1005)

I believe we are of a similar age, although I have a few years on you, and I think women of my generation want to be married ladies.

Somewhere in the back of our minds, despite all your loving words, is the thought that you don't want to marry us, that we don't meet some standard, regardless of what very good reasons you may have for not wanting to get married.

And she may well be content to remain a fiancee, just as long as you demonstrate that you would marry her if she wanted it that badly.

Congratulations! Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 01:51 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

You've pretty much got how the conversation went.....which wasn't entirely how I'd romantically thought about it. I was thinking about something in the future on one knee, with "....if you'll have me." What happened was more upright just a bit ago with, "of course, I'd....."

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:03 PM (T1005)

442 437 Good to hear Cth. As long ss you're OK with this, cool. I approached it froma Red State, apparently Puriticanical perspective. Glsd the land of fruits and nuts at least gets you some cover. Start keeping cash aside. Immediately. As much ss you can.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:06 PM (ojnk6)

443 Frigging women, you can't live with them, and you can't break them up for parts. No, but you can rent their parts.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 02, 2014 10:06 PM (X9Mnx)

444 >>>408 And they like dropping the D bomb when it causes the most collateral damage.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 01:31 AM (c6N69) <<<

deflation? depression? think I need to reread some of this thread.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 10:07 PM (ga+7c)

445 cthulhu: So. Yer gitt'n hitched. Congrenelations. Is there a 12gauge involved?

Posted by: Arbalest at March 02, 2014 10:07 PM (FlRtG)

446 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:03 AM (T1005) Oh, she sounds just like me! ( You have my sympathies!

) I didn't care about any foo-foo romantic gestures, but I was increasingly hurt by the lack of a proposal. A word of warning... I am the furthest thing from a girly-girl that you could imagine, and had no interest whatsoever in a big fancy wedding and ballgown. UNTIL, one of my cousins gave me a bridal magazine. Keep her away from bridal magazines, just sayin'.....

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:07 PM (Pfvig)

447 I think X-ray film has gone the way of the dodo bird. Leastwise in medical use. They have some sort of solid-state detector like the CCD used in digital cameras.>>

This is what I do for a living. I run a digital X-ray system for Imaging, a X-ray florescence system for metallic coating thickness (and basic elemental percentages) and an EDS system that works backwards from the fluorescence system for elemental analysis. But I started with film and some companies still require it for documentation.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 10:07 PM (TI3xG)

448 MissTammy! why is a nice lady like you slumming in a hole like this?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 10:08 PM (rDidD)

449 Thanks all around for the congratulations, though they don't hold a candle to having shared 25 years of love and adventure with my Better Half. Thanks for the concern, but don't worry for those who came into this at the wrong spot.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:10 PM (T1005)

450 Yankee! I dropped in earlier, but I have no financial wisdom to impart and I was afraid if I asked questions about why in God's name anyone would have BBs sewn onto their penises, things would get tacky again!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:10 PM (Pfvig)

451 440 Tammy, my question was about why women, who don't understand themselves half the time, involve this lack of understanding into a relationship with a man, who understands himself a great deal of the time. In other words, why is a guy expected to understand and deal with rhings coming at him when the person launching them has only about a 50% understanding of why they are being launched in the first place?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:11 PM (ojnk6)

452 I was afraid if I asked questions about why in God's name anyone would have BBs sewn onto their penises, things would get tacky again!

Heh.

Posted by: Gregory House with a CAT scanner at March 02, 2014 10:13 PM (hO9ad)

453 442 437
Good to hear Cth. As long ss you're OK with this, cool. I approached it froma Red State, apparently Puriticanical perspective. Glsd the land of fruits and nuts at least gets you some cover. Start keeping cash aside. Immediately. As much ss you can. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:06 AM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)

Seriously, she's had a Medical Power of Attorney for the last 15 years....I'm not handing those out on streetcorners.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:13 PM (T1005)

454 That couple who found all those gold coins will have to pay almost half of the value in taxes

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 10:14 PM (b7yum)

455 445
cthulhu:

So. Yer gitt'n hitched.

Congrenelations.

Is there a 12gauge involved?
Posted by: Arbalest at March 03, 2014 02:07 AM (FlRtG) Hide posts from (FlRtG)

The date is "when it's safe". There's no 12-gauge involved, but there is a relocation.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:14 PM (T1005)

456 451 They're looking for someone to help them stabilize

Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2014 10:15 PM (b7yum)

457 X-ray Imaging

http://tinyurl.com/k5eragx

X-ray Florescence

http://tinyurl.com/l4zvv8b

EDS generated from emitted X-rays

http://tinyurl.com/lz4qmr6

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 10:15 PM (TI3xG)

458 440 Tammy, to be clearer, not asking you to explain all female behavior, just interested in your perspectine on this topic.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:16 PM (ojnk6)

459 ManWithNoParty, if I had an answer for that, I'd be a rich woman. It just seems to be the way life is. Every feminist in the world is gonna hunt my red head down for saying this, but wimmenz are very child-like when it comes to their emotions. A I'm afraid all y'all men just have to keep being our rocks and loving us despite ourselves. I'm always open with Thor and I fight fair and I don't cry or carry on or withhold sex from him or anything. Being raised with boys was good for me. I am scared to death of most women.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:17 PM (Pfvig)

460 446 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:03 AM (T1005)

Oh, she sounds just like me! ( You have my sympathies! ) I didn't care about any foo-foo romantic gestures, but I was increasingly hurt by the lack of a proposal.

A word of warning... I am the furthest thing from a girly-girl that you could imagine, and had no interest whatsoever in a big fancy wedding and ballgown. UNTIL, one of my cousins gave me a bridal magazine.

Keep her away from bridal magazines, just sayin'..... Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:07 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

I'll keep that in mind.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:18 PM (T1005)

461

Posted by: Gregory House with a CAT scanner at March 03, 2014 02:13 AM (hO9ad)

lol. not going even bother asking.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 10:18 PM (ga+7c)

462 Seriously, she's had a Medical Power of Attorney for the last 15 years....I'm not handing those out on streetcorners. Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:13 AM (T1005) And lemme tell ya how she views that.... you expect her to deal with the horror of pulling the plug on you so you don't suffer, but you won't give her the emotional support of a wedding ring. (let alone your SS survivor benefit) You see it as the ultimate in trust and respect, which is what means the most to you. But there isn't anything especially loving in it, in the way she needs to feel love.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:21 PM (Pfvig)

463 459 You are a rare gem. Thanks. Thor is a lucky guy. I had a wife who used ro think like you do currently. After 17 years, she....changed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:21 PM (ojnk6)

464 Oh my. mother of everything that is holy, this doggie stinks. Almost 70Â° today so we spent the day in the backyard. What in God's name did he he eat???

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 10:24 PM (qTg95)

465 So do you want two lanes or four? /Genie from the old joke.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 02, 2014 10:25 PM (X9Mnx)

466 just interested in your perspectine on this topic. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:16 AM (ojnk6) In case I wasn't clear in my reply above, let me say this... My perspective is that it isn't fair, and there is absolutely no logic in it; women are just emotional, and can be irrational, and y'all have to deal with it, and it sucks.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:25 PM (Pfvig)

467 Yankee! I dropped in earlier, but I have no financial wisdom to impart and I was afraid if I asked questions about why in God's name anyone would have BBs sewn onto their penises, things would get tacky again! Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 I am probably not the guy to ask about that, I am more the type to turn a ribbed condom inside out so I can have the added pleasure .

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 10:26 PM (rDidD)

468 462 Seriously, she's had a Medical Power of Attorney for the last 15 years....I'm not handing those out on streetcorners.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:13 AM (T1005)

And lemme tell ya how she views that.... you expect her to deal with the horror of pulling the plug on you so you don't suffer, but you won't give her the emotional support of a wedding ring. (let alone your SS survivor benefit)

You see it as the ultimate in trust and respect, which is what means the most to you. But there isn't anything especially loving in it, in the way she needs to feel love. Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:21 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

I think it's more like I thought I had her convinced 60-40 my way, but it's more like 40-60 the way you're talking about.....but you've got the right issues.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:27 PM (T1005)

469 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:21 AM (ojnk6) Oh, God bless your heart. Is she going through menopause?

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:27 PM (Pfvig)

470 464 Oh my.
mother of everything that is holy, this doggie stinks. Almost 70Â° today so we spent the day in the backyard.

What in God's name did he he eat??? Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:24 AM (qTg95) Hide posts from (qTg95)

....or roll in?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:28 PM (T1005)

471 What in God's name did he he eat??? Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:24 where is the smell emanating from? my methlab eats the same thing every day and every so often she has a hot nose burning lingering clinging gas you would not ever be able to imagine. and it never dissipates it eventually rolls out under our doors.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2014 10:29 PM (rDidD)

472 469 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:21 AM (ojnk6)

Oh, God bless your heart. Is she going through menopause?

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:27 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

The BH is.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:29 PM (T1005)

473 I am probably not the guy to ask about that, I am more the type to turn a ribbed condom inside out so I can have the added pleasure . Posted by: yankeefifth at March 03, 2014 02:26 AM (rDidD) I never understood the whole ribbed condom thing, either. Of course, I have an almost phobic horror of condoms, because that's how I discovered I am allergic to latex.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:30 PM (Pfvig)

474 466 That's been my conclusion after years of observarion, but thsnks for the perspective. Yoy were clearer thsn I've ever heard it expressed in any kind of print or verbally from a woman to me. My answer is thar as long as as you can return the favor, we're good. And that's when the fight started...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:31 PM (ojnk6)

475 lol. not going even bother asking.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 03, 2014 02:18 AM (ga+7c)

Think magnetism

Posted by: Gregory House with a CAT scanner at March 02, 2014 10:31 PM (hO9ad)

476 473 I am probably not the guy to ask about that, I am more the type to turn a ribbed condom inside out so I can have the added pleasure .
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 03, 2014 02:26 AM (rDidD)

I never understood the whole ribbed condom thing, either. Of course, I have an almost phobic horror of condoms, because that's how I discovered I am allergic to latex. Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:30 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

YIKES!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:33 PM (T1005)

477 When I finally met a chick I didn't need a fucking Phd to figure out I got married, and I had to go through a shitload of them to find her.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 10:33 PM (FMbng)

478 "Of course, I have an almost phobic horror of condoms, because that's how I discovered I am allergic to latex."

As the late Warren Zevon sang, "makin' polyvinyl chloride in the factory".

No unpleasant biological proteins with allergens in the space-age polymer.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 10:35 PM (gqT4g)

479 The BH is. Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:29 AM (T1005) I kinda figured. You need to love her more now than you ever did. Thangs is about to get real. You have no idea the rollercoaster she is on. Well, I mean, I think you're getting the picture, but it's a horrible thing to go through. My own situation with Thor could not possibly have come at a worse time, which is why I try and get away when I can. I am shocked myself at how quickly my moods change and I go from perfectly fine to pissed off in about 10 seconds. What's so bad about it for me is I have NEVER been moody, never had any PMS other than chocolate cravings, and have never been overly emotional. It's scary, it truly is.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:35 PM (Pfvig)

480 I have an almost phobic horror of condoms, because that's how IÂ discovered I am allergic to latex.Â Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:30 AM (Pfvig)Â Hide posts from (Pfvig) ___________ How you doin'? Ok - I denounce myself.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 10:37 PM (qTg95)

481 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:31 AM (ojnk6) Oh, I can imagine! Was blood drawn??

And it's so unfair. SO, so, so unfair. And half the time you don't even get laid.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:37 PM (Pfvig)

482 I had to go through a shitload of them to find her. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2014 02:33 AM (FMbng) Poor, poor Bers, having to screw hundreds of women....

Tough job, but someone's gotta do it!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:39 PM (Pfvig)

483 479
The BH is.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:29 AM (T1005)

I kinda figured.

You need to love her more now than you ever did. Thangs is about to get real.

You have no idea the rollercoaster she is on. Well, I mean, I think you're getting the picture, but it's a horrible thing to go through.

My own situation with Thor could not possibly have come at a worse time, which is why I try and get away when I can. I am shocked myself at how quickly my moods change and I go from perfectly fine to pissed off in about 10 seconds.

What's so bad about it for me is I have NEVER been moody, never had any PMS other than chocolate cravings, and have never been overly emotional.

It's scary, it truly is. Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:35 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

Several years ago, we went through some prescription medication that went totally psychotic, but we lived through it. Current menopausal issues -- mere bumps on the road -- mainly regarding thermostat control.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:40 PM (T1005)

484 Cth - I only read back about 20 comments so far... did you "put a ring on it?" (I hate that saying ) Congrats! (?) Maybe you can machine one with the new tool - just find a big chunk of gold.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 10:41 PM (qTg95)

485 469 She did, and it did not turn out like the wwy most women end upat the conclusion of this natural process. Quite the opposite, actually. I should have known early on when she joked about how her Dad hadn't gotten laid past age 55. I met the man, and guarantee he was getting some womewhere. Point is, she was 53 when trouble started, 55 when we split. Generarional things tend to migrate, I guess.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:41 PM (ojnk6)

486 How you doin'? Ok - I denounce myself. Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:37 AM (qTg95) I can laugh about it now, but it was awful. I just kept thinking surely this will start feeling better pretty soon, that it was just painful because it was my first time, second, time, etc. Poor Tho was starting to get a complex, and I was beginning to think he gave me some sort of disease!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:41 PM (Pfvig)

487 Got a 20 year old chick pregnant when I was 24 we got divorced 4 years later and with 2 kids. I went single parent (yes I had them) for 10 years alone. I picked another crazy bitch with my little head. And now am divorced twice. Don't plan on delving into the market ever again since I am such a poor picker of women that are worth having and taking care of (that is a 2 way street for a team).

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 10:42 PM (TI3xG)

488 Several years ago, we went through some prescription medication that went totally psychotic, but we lived through it. Current menopausal issues -- mere bumps on the road -- mainly regarding thermostat control.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:40 AM (T1005) Hide posts from (T1005)

Well, I suppose "thermostat control and being engaged" now......

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:43 PM (T1005)

489 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:41 AM (ojnk6) Well, damn it. I hope you're okay with it. I personally think you're better off!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:44 PM (Pfvig)

490 484 Cth - I only read back about 20 comments so far... did you "put a ring on it?" (I hate that saying )

Congrats! (?)
Maybe you can machine one with the new tool - just find a big chunk of gold. Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:41 AM (qTg95) Hide posts from (qTg95)

I understand that a ring is involved. Since I can't be trusted with anything more decorative than a toilet plunger, I assume I'll be further informed.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:45 PM (T1005)

491 Well, I suppose "thermostat control and being engaged" now...... Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:43 AM (T1005) Hah, if you can work out the thermostat thing, you might be able to remain engaged! It is 54 degrees in my house at now, 6 inches of sleet on the ground with snow falling, and I am burning up. BURNING THE FUCK UP. If I told you what I was wearing, I'd get banned. But did I mention I'm BURNING THE FUCK UP??

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:46 PM (Pfvig)

492 Posted by: The Hickster at March 03, 2014 02:42 AM (TI3xG) Leave them sexy women alone. Git you an ugly one that likes to cook.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:48 PM (Pfvig)

493 487 Got a 20 year old chick pregnant when I was 24 we got divorced 4 years later and with 2 kids. I went single parent (yes I had them) for 10 years alone. I picked another crazy bitch with my little head. And now am divorced twice. Don't plan on delving into the market ever again since I am such a poor picker of women that are worth having and taking care of (that is a 2 way street for a team).
Posted by: The Hickster at March 03, 2014 02:42 AM (TI3xG) Hide posts from (TI3xG)

I'm so sorry, Hickster -- that's one of the things I've feared from the get-go, and I've been fortunate enough to avoid.....and been blessed even more by the BH I've now spent a quarter-century with.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:48 PM (T1005)

494 Have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation, but wish everyone peace and health. And wisdom.

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 10:49 PM (qoKTg)

495 Maybe you can machine one with the new tool - just find a big chunk of gold. Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:41 AM (qTg95) Hide posts from (qTg95) Gold is right out now. Platinum is what you want, cthulu. I do agree it's probably best to let her choose, though. I asked for a rose garden in lieu of an engagement ring. She might like that! And I have my mama's plain gold wedding band, which means more to me than a gazillion carat wedding ring. Do you have any of your mama's or grandma's jewelry to use?

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:51 PM (Pfvig)

496 If I told you what I was wearing, I'd get banned. A florescent green mankini specialty made for hairy Italian joggers?!?

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 10:51 PM (qoKTg)

497 491 Well, I suppose "thermostat control and being engaged" now......
Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 02:43 AM (T1005)

Hah, if you can work out the thermostat thing, you might be able to remain engaged!

It is 54 degrees in my house at now, 6 inches of sleet on the ground with snow falling, and I am burning up.

BURNING THE FUCK UP.

If I told you what I was wearing, I'd get banned.

But did I mention I'm BURNING THE FUCK UP?? Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:46 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

Where are you -- Thorside, NC or Momville, AR?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:51 PM (T1005)

498 Adriane!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:52 PM (Pfvig)

499 Do You Like My Wang?

http://youtu.be/lEF1F-VswsM

Posted by: The Dude at March 02, 2014 10:52 PM (bStrg)

500 489 Thanks Tammy. Indeed, once it was denied at home, I did in fact act like her old man, but only after it was made clear that the woman I wanted to do that with made it totally off limits. Some parts of the body continue to want what they want, never mind the validation inherent in the act.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:53 PM (ojnk6)

501 "Current menopausal issues -- mere bumps on the road -- mainly regarding
thermostat control."

Dual control electric blanket. The most amazing intergender comity device EVAR.

(Note that this is hooman intergender comity only. Your various kittehs and doggehs may vigorously dispute the settings of the thermostat on your side of the bed.)

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2014 10:53 PM (gqT4g)

502 Adriane! I'm not answering the door until I get a "NO!" on the mankini !!!!!

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 10:53 PM (qoKTg)

503 Momville. Got held up by this storm. I am actually thrilled, because I have the house all to myself. A cousin has been staying here to keep an eye on mama for me, but he had to be gone this weekend, so it worked out great. I can keep the place as cold as I want and it's nice to be myself!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:54 PM (Pfvig)

504 495 Maybe you can machine one with the new tool - just find a big chunk of gold.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:41 AM (qTg95)
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Gold is right out now. Platinum is what you want, cthulu.

I do agree it's probably best to let her choose, though.

I asked for a rose garden in lieu of an engagement ring. She might like that!

And I have my mama's plain gold wedding band, which means more to me than a gazillion carat wedding ring. Do you have any of your mama's or grandma's jewelry to use? Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 02:51 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

True fact -- the only family jewelry I could bring to the table is a silver ring in the form of a western saddle. While this may have worked for my gramps, I'm not seeing it being too popular today.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 10:54 PM (T1005)

505 Git you an ugly one that likes to cook.>>

I think I have a couple of those that are interested in me currently (not even ugly just my age so not the beauty of youth which I have also lost) But I am scared to try again. I don't have the raging hormones so why bother.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 10:55 PM (TI3xG)

506 I'm so happy for you, cth! And (redacted) her! I'm going backwards to read what I miseed...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 10:55 PM (qTg95)

507 True fact -- the only family jewelry I could bring to the table is a silver ring in the form of a western saddle. While this may have worked for my gramps, I'm not seeing it being too popular today. There's a Sex in the City in there somewhere ... but since I never watched the show, I don't know where it is ...

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 10:57 PM (qoKTg)

508 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:53 AM (ojnk6) I do understand. Don't blame you at all.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 10:57 PM (Pfvig)

509 Wow, don't get me started on the $500 electric bills I paid to keep the house at 64 degrees in July/August in GA.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 10:58 PM (ojnk6)

510 I don't have the raging hormones so why bother. Posted by: The Hickster at March 03, 2014 02:55 AM (TI3xG) Welllll...... yes and no. The raging hormones are usually the cause of all the problems, one way or other. Someone that you really, really like a whole lot, just a super good friend and someone to laugh with and hangout with is often the very best thing. Especially if she can cook. You don't need to get married, but I'd hate to see you cut yourself off from what could be a very cool relationship.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:00 PM (Pfvig)

511 Dayum, this thread is not going to do much to keep me off of the wall of shame next week, he said while undermining his cause...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:01 PM (ojnk6)

512 Wow, don't get me started on the $500 electric bills I paid to keep the house at 64 degrees in July/August in GA.....>>

Pick a room for the extreme and get a window unit.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 11:01 PM (TI3xG)

513 http://www.printkiller.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ regular_borat-mankini-very-nice1.jpg

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 11:01 PM (qoKTg)

514 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 02:58 AM (ojnk6) That was a truly humanitarian gesture on your part. Thor lucks out on this one, cuz I just don't turn the heat on now! What pat of GA? I was raised in Rabun County...

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:03 PM (Pfvig)

515

Posted by: Adriane... at March 03, 2014 02:49 AM (qoKTg)

about where I'm at. morning and goodnight. the snow has arrived.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 02, 2014 11:03 PM (ga+7c)

516 cthulu, I wanna see this saddle! It sounds beautiful! Has Gushie seen it??

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:04 PM (Pfvig)

517 Wow, don't get me started on the $500 electric bills I paid to keep the house at 64 degrees in July/August in GA..... Be grateful. We paid $600 in electric to keep the house at 85 in PHX in July / August ...

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 11:04 PM (qoKTg)

518 506 I'm so happy for you, cth!
And (redacted) her!

I'm going backwards to read what I miseed... Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:55 AM (qTg95) Hide posts from (qTg95)

Reader's Digest version -- we've spurned government definitions of relationships for 25 years because it has gained us significant protections from harm and saved us enough taxes to have us travel the world....with the intent that we'd buy into the government definition of marriage when it could confer survivor's benefits. From there go back and read Tammy's posts, 'cause I'm still adapting.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 11:05 PM (T1005)

519 512 That implies that the Ex would have confined herself to one room in a 5K SF house. Wasn't gonna happen.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:05 PM (ojnk6)

520 Someone that you really, really like a whole lot, just a super good friend and someone to laugh with and hangout with is often the very best thing. Especially if she can cook.>>

The one I know and like that currently that peaks my interest. Has 2 sons that I know I would strangle for the way they treat their mother. So until that changes I figure it's a bad match.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 02, 2014 11:07 PM (TI3xG)

521 514 Tammy, I'm at the outer edge of Cobb County. Live on Lake Allatoona. Extreme suburbs of Atl.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:07 PM (ojnk6)

522 516 cthulu, I wanna see this saddle! It sounds beautiful! Has Gushie seen it?? Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 03:04 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

I'll have to dig it out. The saddle, itself, is huge -- like 5/8" x 1-3/8" -- and the ring is quite robust....and both are pitted and worn. It has some meaning to me because it's family.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 11:09 PM (T1005)

523 Oh, that's nice! Up around Red Top, right? I have family all over there.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:11 PM (Pfvig)

524 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 03:09 AM (T1005) I bet it is quite striking when worn.... probably not engagement ring material, but cool nonetheless!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:13 PM (Pfvig)

525 So until that changes I figure it's a bad match. Posted by: The Hickster at March 03, 2014 03:07 AM (TI3xG) I agree, and that's too bad. And if she lets herself be treated that way, she'd probably get to be annoying in the long run. Sometimes the sweetest women end up being the ones you just want to shake!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:14 PM (Pfvig)

526 517 Sure Adrian, but thst was probsbly to keep the house at 72-74, while my deal, wasmtomtry and cure an incurable interal inferno. One thst had me and my daughter wearing sweatshirts with undershirts inside when it was 95 degrees outside with 100 percent humidity...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:14 PM (ojnk6)

527 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 03:05 AM (T1005) Now don't go getting all hurt that she hasn't appreciated the very logical and good reasons you had, or that she doubted judgement on the matter or your love. You're gonna like being married!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:17 PM (Pfvig)

528 Somehow, this little doggie can hear me slipping on my boots. He's wide awake now. I was just going to take a bag of trash outside, but now I have to let him out. Probably not a bad thing, considering the smell of his farts...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 02, 2014 11:17 PM (qTg95)

529 524 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 03:09 AM (T1005)

I bet it is quite striking when worn.... probably not engagement ring material, but cool nonetheless! Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 03:13 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

There's no stone, it's large, and somewhat clunky....more like folk art than jewelry you'd find in a store....but that's what I come from.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 11:18 PM (T1005)

530 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 03:14 AM (ojnk6) She sounds like a selfish heifer, which is rude of me to say, and I apologize, but still.....

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:19 PM (Pfvig)

531 but that's what I come from. Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 03:18 AM (T1005) Hah, better than where I come from; none of my grandparents could afford rings and I'd be willing to bet Daddy had to hawk (hock?) something to buy my mama's 40 dollar gold band! I'm sorry I have drug this out so much, but I am happy for you! And once your head stops spinning from the shock, you will be fine.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:22 PM (Pfvig)

532 Well, I best shut up and let someone else get a word in......

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:22 PM (Pfvig)

533 You're gonna like being married!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 03:17 AM (Pfvig)

yeah, until you pop the ring on, and say I do, and then her face cracks away and skeletor pops out and says kneel before zod. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 11:23 PM (FMbng)

534 527 Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 03:05 AM (T1005)

Now don't go getting all hurt that she hasn't appreciated the very logical and good reasons you had, or that she doubted judgement on the matter or your love.

You're gonna like being married! Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 03:17 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

I'm still going to protect her to the best of my ability, whether she likes it or not, and that means getting her the fuck out of this progressive shithole.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 11:24 PM (T1005)

535 530 It didn't begin that way, but, yeah, ended that way. Thanks. I've appreciated your insights tonight. Been dating some, what a freaking disaster. I was actually told it has to be 100% her way or 100% my way. Who the cfuk thinks like that? Rhetorical question only.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:25 PM (ojnk6)

536 yeah, until you pop the ring on, and say I do, and then her face cracks away and skeletor pops out and says kneel before zod. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2014 03:23 AM (FMbng) Like you'd have it any other way.....

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:25 PM (Pfvig)

537 Tammy, aside from all of my drama for the evening -- look around at all the people you've touched....and tell me you haven't been missed.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 02, 2014 11:27 PM (T1005)

538 Actually, my other half qualifies for sainthood for dealing with half the shit I dragged her through over the years. The fucked up thing was she was a blind date. Thats the last thing I would have expected to succeed.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 11:28 PM (FMbng)

539 I'm still going to protect her to the best of my ability That right there makes me want to marry you myself. You've got your head on straight and a heart as big as Texas. Northern Arkansas is mighty beautiful, by the way, and if you avoid Fayetteville), is a very red state, which is chronically poor, so holds no real draw for lefties to come and spoil.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:28 PM (Pfvig)

540 Like you'd have it any other way.....

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 03:25 AM (Pfvig)

Yeah not sure about that, been there done that.lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 11:29 PM (FMbng)

541 533 I always thought thet could have ended the Gulf Oil leak by putting a wedding ring on it. What better way to stop it from putting out? I'll be here all week. Tip your Wait staff and try the veal.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:30 PM (ojnk6)

542 537 Big plus one on that. Thanks, Tammy.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:32 PM (ojnk6)

543 Who the cfuk thinks like that? Rhetorical question only. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 03:25 AM (ojnk6) There is no such thing as a rhetorical question with me!

Honest to God, society has changed so much... as if women weren't already a handful, you have all this other stuff going on now, and no more social mores to guide or follow. I wouldn't date again for a million years, even if Thor dumped me. The rules have all changed and I liked the old ones, where everyone kind of knew how to behave and what to expect. I'd just have to force one of y'all to marry me.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:32 PM (Pfvig)

544 I'd just have to force one of y'all to marry me.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 03, 2014 03:32 AM (Pfvig)

You got guitars. I'm sold. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 02, 2014 11:34 PM (FMbng)

545 Blush...... thank you, gentlemen! Y'all are the best. Except Bers who is a dog and doesn't deserve his good fortune!

I'm kidding. It takes a great man to land a great woman, you know, blind date or no blind date.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:35 PM (Pfvig)

546 You got guitars. I'm sold. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 03, 2014 03:34 AM (FMbng) But you're used to a saint, so you'd best pass on those guitars!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:36 PM (Pfvig)

547 Yeah not sure about that, been there done that. lol You married Alan Colmes? NTTAWWT

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 11:38 PM (qoKTg)

548 543 Many of us probably would, just for the attitude alone, sight unseen. Because very cool. As I said, Thor's a lucky guy. This dating world blows bqlls, especially at my age. Most people have some baggage. Fine, at my age I do too. What Imdo not have is the Warehouses full of Steamer trunks full of baggage thst many I meet seem to have. Good grief, losing faith in the whole paradigm these days.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:38 PM (ojnk6)

549 DiCaprio got shut out: I guess the Great Gatsby was last year but he didn't win for Wolf of Wall Street, either. That movie sucked, too. They all sucked.

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 02, 2014 11:40 PM (6Nj7A)

550 People have always had baggage, even big steamer trunks full...what strikes me is that people used to have a little dignity and a willingness to compromise and some control over themselves and now it just seems like everyone lets it all hang out and women think they can just walk all over everyone and demand everything because EQUALITY!!1! and men think they oughtta get laid just cause they buy you dinner. Come to think of it, that happened to me on my very first date more than 30 years ago, so I guess things haven't changed THAT much!

Lord, I was gonna give y'all a rest, wasn't I?

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:44 PM (Pfvig)

551 And I blame autocorrect for...tonight. My typing has really sucked...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:45 PM (ojnk6)

552 They all sucked. Posted by: Judge Pug at March 03, 2014 03:40 AM (6Nj7A) I haven't seen a movie since Act of Valor and before that I swear it was Titanic, and Thor wanted to see that one. I'd go see Lone Survivor but I wasn't sure if it was one of those that puts the military in a bad light. We'll probably go see Noah if I can verify it isn't a total reworking of it to somehow fit Hwood standards.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:47 PM (Pfvig)

553 We'll probably go see Noah if I can verify it isn't a total reworking of it to somehow fit Hwood standards. Something about the flood being caused by global warming from Cannanite SUVs ...

Posted by: Adriane... at March 02, 2014 11:49 PM (qoKTg)

554 550 As is apparent by the responses, no break needed. I'm willing to be patient while one unpacks the bags. It's when someone revels in having and then attempts to add to that that I draw the line.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:50 PM (ojnk6)

555 Exactly, Adriane!

ManWithNoParty, you are a smart, smart man. I am gonna go stand outside in the snow for a bit, dear hearts. Thank you for listening tome babble!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 02, 2014 11:52 PM (Pfvig)

556 555 Enjoy Tammy. Please don't tske it personally when I blame you and this thread for being on the wall of shame again next Sunday ;-). Because baggage. Be well and thanks again.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 02, 2014 11:56 PM (ojnk6)

557 556 As well as the Nascar thread.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 12:00 AM (ojnk6)

558 Thank you, everyone, for being who you are....while I've been up long past my bedtime.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 03, 2014 12:00 AM (T1005)

559 "Something about the flood being caused by global warming from Cannanite SUVs ..."

I am totally stealing that.

Posted by: GMB who is anti everything at March 03, 2014 12:01 AM (nkPV9)

560 "You just can't invade a country on a phony pretext to assert your interests." ---- John Kerry yesterday A-hahahahahaha.... Oh, you were serious?

Posted by: The World at March 03, 2014 12:03 AM (sOtz/)

561 558 Right there with ya, but not like that. Got to view a new property at 11:00 EST, so gonna call it. Have a good night Horde, or morning, whatever your schedule.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 12:04 AM (ojnk6)

562 Basically, the Unions are money launderers for the Democrat party.

To the tune (according to that list) of 1/2 a billion dollars or more. (cause that's just what they declared they gave. who knows what the true figure is.)

Note how many government employees unions are on that list.

Yet somehow the Republicans can't muster enough outrage to try and do something about. Hell, just trying to educate the public would do for a start.

I'm not voting for anyone who won't fight those who want to put me in jail or take away my stuff.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 03, 2014 12:25 AM (LSDdO)

563 Wandering in after letting the dogs out... Cthulhu, congrats! If the BH is like 95% of women, there will be plenty of hints about what form the Ring of Power should take. Miss Tammy!!! I applaud your advice--Mes. Cranks was/is a great friend and she was taught by Jewbillies how to cook, yum!

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 03, 2014 01:32 AM (R+XDI)

564 Nice ONT Maet, Congrats commiserations to the top tens. 323? I'll have to work on that.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 01:53 AM (TE35l)

565 338 Kristophr, See that is not making me dislike Putin....at all

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 02:06 AM (TE35l)

566 "Who let the the dogs out?" (Crank, obviously)

Posted by: shredded chi at March 03, 2014 02:10 AM (qTg95)

567 Looks like about three inches of GlowBull Worming fell last night.
So far.
Still falling.

Yeah me!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 03, 2014 02:16 AM (DPkKe)

568

morning daywalkers.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 03, 2014 02:39 AM (ga+7c)