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April 15, 2014

CNN's National Security Analyst on Anniversary of Boston Bombing: Rightwing Extremists Are More Deadly Than Jihadists, You Know
— Ace

The media literally has the same storyline one year later.

Nothing is ever learned; nothing ever changes.

Are Â“right-wingÂ” extremists more dangerous than Al-Qaeda terrorists? According to CNNÂ’s National Security Analyst Peter Bergen, they are. In a CNN commentary posted yesterday Bergen wrote, Â“U.S. right wing extremists [are] more deadly than jihadists.Â” He also also happens to be a director for the George Soros-funded liberal New America Foundation. What a coincidence.

Must be great being a progressive, being able to collect two checks from your partisan/ideological group and the "straight media." *

Bergen claimed that Â“white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists and anti-government militants have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al QaedaÂ’s ideology.Â” He cited a New America study which counted 34 people killed by right-wing extremist acts and just 23 people killed by Al Qaeda-linked terrorism, after 9/11. Why start there? WouldnÂ’t the 2,977 people killed that day by jihadists skew those findings somewhat?

Nah bro.

Like Obama, Obama's progressive allies change the numbers to get the outcome they wish.

Meanwhile, Obama has declared that what worries him most is the prospect of a nuclear bomb detonating in a major American city. (Most likely this would be a Rightwing Nuke, I suppose.)

Here's what to do if a bomb goes off near you and you survive.

* Note that while CNN hires conservatives for commentary, they are in fact commentators.

This guy who works for a George Soros organization is an "analyst."

Posted by: Ace at 01:42 PM | Comments (180)
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1 34? Name 1.

Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 01:43 PM (hFL/3)

2 what an asshole

Posted by: hammer down at April 15, 2014 01:43 PM (q+fqH)

3 34 > 2,977 Common core.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2014 01:45 PM (8ZskC)

4 "Preserve protect and defend the US Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic." Remember that, incumbents? Nah, bro.

Posted by: DM at April 15, 2014 01:46 PM (Ztudx)

5 That same study (still looking to see how they got that 34 number) also says the following: 229 Individuals charged with jihadist terrorism 177 Nonjihadists Hmmm. I wonder why Bergen didn't go with that number?

Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 01:46 PM (hFL/3)

6 A New American study. Must be just like a global warming study. Reach a conclusion and then make the numbers fit.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 15, 2014 01:46 PM (+hPIb)

7 Well, they can't crowd you onto the cattle cars and send you to the camps until you've been sufficiently demonized, first. Remember: They're scorpions. That's just the way they are.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at April 15, 2014 01:47 PM (q6kaG)

8 I'd love to see who killed the "34" and find out why they what about they're politics earned them the "right wing" label. Lots of Hayek-reading, Buckley-loving small government libertarians in there, I'll bet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2014 01:47 PM (8ZskC)

9 i can list some of the right wing shooters:
the Chic Filet guy, both Ft Hood shooters, Adam Lanza....

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2014 01:47 PM (q+fqH)

10 Boy, my proof reading is for shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2014 01:48 PM (8ZskC)

11 Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2014 05:47 PM (q+fqH)
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No no no! Those guys were all Teahadists! Cereally!

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 15, 2014 01:48 PM (+hPIb)

12 More and more brazen they grow.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at April 15, 2014 01:49 PM (wKjeW)

13 Anti abortion extremist killers? I can think of the Tiller case. Are there more?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 01:50 PM (oMKp3)

14 They keep poking the sleeping giant. Someday the giant will actually wake. I hope I'm not around after that.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 15, 2014 01:50 PM (ndlFj)

15 Nothing is scarier than the thought of middle class women at a suburban kaffeeklatsch trying to figure out how the build a working backpack nuke.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2014 01:50 PM (8ZskC)

16 Charlie Daniels ✔ @CharlieDaniels Follow

Putin if you invade Ukraine we will remove Smirnoff vodka from the congressional dining room

8:42 PM - 14 Apr 2014

Posted by: Whiny Communists at April 15, 2014 01:51 PM (e8kgV)

17 And, my "tolerance for reading news" meter has now been pegged. Oops, make that broken. Time for a cold beer, a smoke & a walk outside with a cute doggeh. I don't even f'n care that it's raining.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 15, 2014 01:51 PM (Zkic6)

18 " Rightwing Extremists Are More Deadly Than Jihadists, You Know" Well I happen to agree with this statement. Yes, we fucking are, and you really ought to stop fucking with us before we get up and kick your ass.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 01:51 PM (bb5+k)

19 The phrase more deadly would carry more weight if there were, you know, dead people associated with the claim.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 15, 2014 01:52 PM (o3NFc)

20 Like I said earlier today, arguing with propaganda is a fool's errand.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 15, 2014 01:52 PM (o3NFc)

21 What I've never understood is how Benedict Arnold was going to pull off the surender of West Point?. What did they expect the troops to do? What if the commie and chief did the same thing to Putin? Not only take Ukraine, but here is the whole kitten-kaboodill.

Posted by: Paladin at April 15, 2014 01:53 PM (bxc5w)

22 Is he counting the dead in Ft. Hood after the first shooting and the victims of the snipers in the early 00's?

Posted by: Sphynx at April 15, 2014 01:53 PM (OZmbA)

23 Sorry, but NONE OF THIS SHIT seems REMOTELY IMPORTANT ANYMORE, at least NOT in light of the 26 year old Iranian woman who's been held in prison for the past 7 years and is now sentenced to be hanged this week - FOR BEING RAPED!!!! http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-to-hang-26-year-old-rape-victim WHERE THE FU^K IS THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF WOMEN???? No doubt (still) protesting as to whether women should/should not wear bras!!.......WOW! Am I impressed! (and REALLY fuc^ing DEPRESSED)

Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 01:54 PM (V0j3u)

24 Long, long ago, the media had "credibility." Leftists seized this repository of credibility and have been using it up ever since. The flaw in thei thinking is that they think the credibility lasts forever. They don't seem to realize that a reputation can be destroyed little by little, just as it is built up little by little. Real journalists spent a century earning a profession-wide status that earned the public's respect. The modern partisans posing as journalists are coasting on that status. But with every lie, and every insult, and every partisan spin, the reputation erodes, day by day. Among political addicts like us, the credibility is already long used up. Journalism is now a joke job. But there were a few Low Information Americans who still assigned some social status to the journalism profession. Not any more, however. The last six years has wiped away all that. The only remaining people who "believe what's on TV" are all over 80 years old. So, rant all you want, CNN analyst. Nobody cares anymore. Nobody.

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 01:54 PM (mizYg)

25 Since 2001....Fort Hood Shooter, VT Shooter, NIU Shooter, Navy Yard Shooter, Aurora Shooter, Tuscon Shooter, Connecticut Shooter...all right wing guys, right!? YGBSM.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 15, 2014 01:55 PM (Ec6wH)

26 I followed the link but I can't figure out where to find the lists of attacks, and who the attackers were, and how they are classified. Does anyone see the breakdown of names or incidents?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 01:55 PM (oMKp3)

27 This country sucks now.

Posted by: Dan at April 15, 2014 01:55 PM (COpZ4)

28 u-mazing. 34 ? first who might those be? second how many people have been killed in america because of Left ideology, from constant screams of separatist racism and because of THEM you have nothing thinking? , to ideology, Ayers - Dohrn type conduct to to abortion, why stop with just what They chose to portray as Right winger?

Posted by: willow at April 15, 2014 01:55 PM (nqBYe)

29 I am sure Nidal Hasan was counted as "right-wing" violence, and not terrorism. The sociology is settled!

Posted by: Beorn at April 15, 2014 01:55 PM (dGF4J)

30 As usual, the Left acts and we react. They say 'jump,' and we jump. We need to discipline ourselves to ignore this bullshit, or we return it in kind. But arguing their outlandish lies?? That's foolish.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 15, 2014 01:56 PM (o3NFc)

31 the whole kitten-kaboodill. Posted by: Paladin Most creative misspelling I've seen all week. Bravo!

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 01:56 PM (mizYg)

32 Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 05:54 PM (V0j3u) I thought I heard today that her sentence has been stayed, at least temporarily. I'm assuming you know all about Pastor Saaed as well?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 01:56 PM (oMKp3)

Let me guess:

- Incidents of "workplace violence" committed by Islamists shouting "Allahu Akbar!" aren't counted as Islamokazi terror.

- Jared Loughner is considered "right-wing".

Posted by: steveegg at April 15, 2014 01:56 PM (o44nj)

34 Since 2001....Fort Hood Shooter, VT Shooter, NIU Shooter, Navy Yard Shooter, Aurora Shooter, Tuscon Shooter, Connecticut Shooter...all right wing guys, right!? Don't forget us.

Posted by: John Lee Malvo and John Allen Muhammad, Tea Partiers at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (8ZskC)

35 23, the Left supports Iran and all Islamic nutcases. That is why there is no outrage. The left runs America and the media.

Posted by: Dan at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (COpZ4)

36
Quick, somebody ask this guy if gang bangers are right wing?

Just for chuckles to watch him squirm.

Also ask him about illegal aliens and where on the spectrum they fall.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (hUf/y)

37 Disgusting. These people are insane

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (5PkZK)

38 I think I've figured this out. If you kill with a gun, you're a right wing terrorist. If you use a bomb, you're jihadist.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (8MjqI)

39 Sheesh Ace, you object to propaganda? What the hell else would CNN broadcast if they didn't have propaganda?

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (1Boes)

40 CNN just keeps flying and it only has a left wing.

Posted by: Sphynx at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (OZmbA)

41 34 dead? Must have been a hell of a birthday party.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 15, 2014 01:57 PM (l3vZN)

42 The right wing caused MH370 to crash. Seriously, the right wing hit the ocean first.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 15, 2014 01:58 PM (Ec6wH)

43 I think all conservatives should boycott the companies that help cnn stay on the air.

Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at April 15, 2014 01:58 PM (rO5kl)

44 How many other radical Islam murders that are inspired by other than al-Qaeda?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 15, 2014 01:58 PM (R+XDI)

45 Nidal Hasan's openly and proudly admitted jihadi rampage was legalistically defined away as mere "workplace violence" with no terror component.

That right there should tell you all you need to know.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 15, 2014 01:58 PM (noWW6)

46 What do CNN, Soros, and the Islamists have in common? All three hate Christians and Jews. It is just that simple.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at April 15, 2014 01:59 PM (1mtKP)

47

LIST OF ISLAMIC TERROR ATTACKS FOR THE PAST 30 DAYS
http://tinyurl.com/z6o55

ISLAMIC TERRORIST HAVE CARRIED OUT MORE THAN 22,781 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11

http://tinyurl.com/8ft5g

Posted by: Hepcat at April 15, 2014 01:59 PM (Q4mug)

48 Searching "right wing" in the report this came from resulted in two names. William Krar and Judith Bruey. White supremacists. They were arrested because they had cyanide back in 2003, but no one was killed. I have no idea where that 34 number came from, but I'll keep looking.

Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 01:59 PM (hFL/3)

49 Most creative misspelling I've seen all week. Bravo!

Was I even close?

Posted by: Paladin at April 15, 2014 01:59 PM (bxc5w)

50 9 i can list some of the right wing shooters: the Chic Filet guy, both Ft Hood shooters, Adam Lanza.... Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2014 05:47 PM (q+fqH) ========================== I'm sure they used news stories as the primary reference, as in "if the news stories identified the terror as right wing in origin, that's how we classified it". That sounds totally impartial, right?

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 02:00 PM (1Boes)

51 Also, how many people identify as to the right of HW Bush (media definition if right wing extremist) vs. identify as jihadi? I'm guessing about 6 orders of magnitude?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 15, 2014 02:00 PM (R+XDI)

52 26 I followed the link but I can't figure out where to find the lists of attacks, and who the attackers were, and how they are classified. Does anyone see the breakdown of names or incidents? Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 05:55 PM (oMKp3) I think the Left wing Democrats who pretend to be News people regard Timothy McVeigh as a "right wing extremist". (He wasn't really, but that's how they see him.) 168 people dead in the worst domestic terrorism incident in US History.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:01 PM (bb5+k)

53 Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 05:54 PM (V0j3u) You're losing your protest at the wrong site. Preaching to the choir as it were. Yep, the radical muslims of Iran suck. No doubt about it. Try posting over at the DU or HuffPo or Daily Kos or any number of leftwing sites. That's where minds and hearts need to be changed. Godspeed.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 15, 2014 02:01 PM (0cMkb)

54 His trick is to compare ALL vioence even faintly associated with the "right" vs. violence conducted by a specific rather small group (Al Qaeda). Guy who once voted for Reagan throws a punch? Right-wing violence. Jihadist screams "ALLAH ACKBAR!!" and murders 13 people? That doesn't count, you see, because technically speaking he wasn't in Al Qaeda and he was just acting on his own and was mentally ill. Thus, not Al Qaeda-linked violence.

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 02:01 PM (mizYg)

55 left wing thinking- Gosnell- Ayers-Floyd Kockins and family research center, Guy the other day shooting at a Jewish center, Forth Hood? VA Tech? Colorado theatre shooter Rweg Dem? so?

Posted by: willow at April 15, 2014 02:01 PM (nqBYe)

56 Uh.... he is absolutely correct... Patriotic Americans ARE a much bigger threat to the Obama Cabal... and the Left... than Islam is... Islam can kill a few of them as they apologize... if'n we get really pissed... they are done.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 15, 2014 02:01 PM (84gbM)

57 Ugh. You're lodging your protest.... Stupid auto-correct

Posted by: naturalfake at April 15, 2014 02:02 PM (0cMkb)

58 Why are White Supremicists classified as "right wing"? They're just racist fucks who sneak up on unsuspecting innocents. What makes them right wing?

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 02:02 PM (1Boes)

59
And what about injuries too, not just death, like all the ones from left wing fanatical muzzies in the Boston Marathon bombing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2014 02:02 PM (hUf/y)

60 49 Most creative misspelling I've seen all week. Bravo! Was I even close? Posted by: Paladin Nope. Sorry. Well, you got the first three letters right, but after that - - you're battin' .000

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (mizYg)

61 And how many white people have people with ties to the Black Panthers or Nation of Islam killed in America? Those ties never seem to count.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (ZPrif)

62 23 jihad victims, huh? Beltway Snipers, headed by one Mr. Muhammed: 10 dead Fort Hood Shooter: by Mr. Nidal "Allahu Akbar!!" Hasan: 13 dead Boston Marathon Bombers: courtesy of two guys who happened to be muslims: 3 dead TOTAL: 36. And I only scratched the surface.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (8ZskC)

63
And:

"Moreover, since 9/11 none of the more than 200 individuals indicted or convicted in the United States of some act of jihadist terrorism have acquired or used chemical or biological weapons or their precursor materials, while 13 individuals motivated by right wing extremist ideology, one individual motivated by left-wing extremist ideology, and two with idiosyncratic beliefs, used or acquired such weapons or their precursors."

200+ >> 13

And I'll bet those two "idiosyncratic" have a story to tell.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (kdS6q)

64 If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown Washington, what should you do?

Christopher, I'll see you at the triage center.

Posted by: Tony Soprano[/i][/b][/s] at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (DL2i+)

65 43 I think all conservatives should boycott the companies that help cnn stay on the air. Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at April 15, 2014 05:58 PM (rO5kl) Yeah, I wish we had an app for that. Sure would make the job easier if you could always figure out quickly whether or not to support a company with your dollars.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (bb5+k)

66 The Jew killin', Heil Hitler dude from last week? Extremist Right winger is how he's tagged. Even though he's run for office, several times, as a Democrat.

And so it goes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (wNF3N)

67 Looking forward to the comparison to the number of people killed by gangland thugs. Is it more than 34 since 2001?

Posted by: Original Roy at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (Dg1cR)

68 I just want to see the 34 names. I also want to see the list of anti abortion extremists who have killed people, besides the Tiller case. He makes a big point of including this group. I need some names here.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 02:03 PM (oMKp3)

69 Traveling down the rabbit hole. The citations included a study on domestic terrorist with biological weapons. 5 "anti-government" incidents. Still no deaths. No citation for the 34 number.

Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 02:04 PM (hFL/3)

70 This shit is wearing me out. And for what?? For now, it's time to eat, drink, sex, and be merry. For tomorrow we die. Besides, Petticoat Junction is on in 54 minutes.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 15, 2014 02:05 PM (o3NFc)

71
I guess we can all see thru this BS, so the mocking of CNN is basically where our fun lies.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2014 02:05 PM (hUf/y)

72 Beltway Snipers, headed by one Mr. Muhammed: 10 dead Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 15, 2014 06:03 PM (8ZskC) ======================== How was that political? He was just an ordinary everyday delusional mass-murderer, and he liked shooting at school kids.

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 02:06 PM (1Boes)

Posted by: Edgar Allen Hoe at April 15, 2014 02:06 PM (8/dgB)

74 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 06:03 PM (bb5+k) It's a lot easier if you don't buy stuff. Buy used. Buy generic. Grow your own. Use alternatives.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 02:06 PM (oMKp3)

49...Was I even close?

Posted by: Paladin

Kinda sorta...it's 'kit and caboodle'.

Posted by: wheatie at April 15, 2014 02:06 PM (FWbLS)

76 59 Why are White Supremicists classified as "right wing"? They're just racist fucks who sneak up on unsuspecting innocents. What makes them right wing? Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 06:02 PM (1Boes) State sanctioned hate is no crime. Rather, it is justice. Any actions by whites other than grovelling are not of the state, and therefore must be right wing racism.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 15, 2014 02:07 PM (R+XDI)

77 Islam can kill a few of them as they apologize... if'n we get really pissed... they are done. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 15, 2014 06:01 PM (84gbM) Funny thing about Islam: the one violent religious fundamentalist cause that the left can't help but support. Why? Because they share the same hatred of western culture, especially the wealth and power made possible by it.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 15, 2014 02:07 PM (tNrYO)

The KKK was the Militant and Domestic Terrorist wing of the Democrat Party since the end of the civil war.

Instead of Brownshirts, the KKK wore White Sheets and kept the Southern Democrats in power for almost a century. They were protected by the elected Democrat Sheriffs, Legislators, Judges, and Prosecutors. And in return, they delivered votes to the Democrats, and beatings and lynchings to their opponents. Ask "Sheets" Byrd, Democrat patriarch form West Virginia.

Posted by: rd at April 15, 2014 02:07 PM (D+lxs)

79 If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown Washington, what should you do? Posted by: Tony Soprano at April 15, 2014 06:03 PM (DL2i+) I'm still thinking....who's in town? Congress in recess?

Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2014 02:07 PM (HtUkt)

80 The catalyst for the entire piece: that the Kansas shooter was "right wing" is ridiculous as well. National Socialists: right wing. Klu Klux Klan: right wing. Interesting read on history.

Posted by: dan-O at April 15, 2014 02:07 PM (D0bIN)

81 Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 06:03 PM (oMKp3) And Pro Abortion extremists have used the Courts to kill upwards of 30 Million... Almost as many as used the EPA to outlaw DDT, and Kill 10s of Millions in Africa...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 15, 2014 02:07 PM (84gbM)

82 Part of the dis-information here is "anti-government militants"- the only deadly attacks I can think of in recent years from "anti-government militants" were from Leftwing anti-government militants. So, you know....

Posted by: naturalfake at April 15, 2014 02:07 PM (0cMkb)

83
I just want to see the 34 names.
Posted by: grammie winger

Notice that CNN isn't linking to the actual report so we can fact'em.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 15, 2014 02:08 PM (kdS6q)

84 80 If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown Washington, what should you do? Posted by: Tony Soprano at April 15, 2014 06:03 PM (DL2i+) Duck and cover!

Posted by: model_1066 at April 15, 2014 02:08 PM (tNrYO)

85 62 Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 15, 2014 06:03 PM (ZPrif) ==================== I'm betting zero. As in, those groups haven't killed anyone in acts of political violence. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 02:08 PM (1Boes)

just 23 people killed by Al Qaeda-linked terrorism

Our soldiers don't count.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2014 02:09 PM (aq5Dc)

87 Finally found the damn data set. http://homegrown.newamerica.net/nonjihadist

Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 02:09 PM (hFL/3)

88 But arguing their outlandish lies?? That's foolish. I disagree. Their lies need to be refuted at every available opportunity, preferably by a Pubbie on a Sunday talking head show. Even to the point of ignoring the original question. Imagine confronting that Rachel Maddow fellow about their scurrilous lies and having the data to disprove it. Remember how much fun it was to see Pierced Organ get his pee-pee slapped on his own show? It can be done, but would require someone with cojones to actually take the fight to the enemy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 15, 2014 02:09 PM (0HooB)

89 Of course the analyst is basically right. If, as a liberal, you want a one party, neo-feudalist state, American style conservatism is a much bigger threat then Islam.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 15, 2014 02:09 PM (M3hAT)

90 Note also that back during the original dawning heyday of the New Left, when their various militant affiliates, the Weathermen and the Black Panthers and the SLA, were out pulling lethal stick-up jobs on banks and armored cars, this was always explained away as with a dismissive wave of the hand by other leftists as merely "crime".

Instead of being accurately called what it was, which was left-wing terror.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 15, 2014 02:10 PM (noWW6)

91 He probably actually believes that and in a sense he's right. Because if it came right down to armed conflict in America between your average Rightie and your average Leftie it wouldn't really be a contest. Duck Dynasty vs PJ Boy as it were. Which of course explains the Left's desperate need to gut the 2A.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 15, 2014 02:10 PM (dvRYt)

92 80 If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown Washington, what should you do? Since it's Holy Week, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut here for a moment.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 02:10 PM (oMKp3)

93 Islam can kill a few of them as they apologize... if'n we get really pissed... they are done. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 15, 2014 06:01 PM (84gbM) And this is what i'm saying. Conservatives are producers. They know how to get shit done. They aren't phony baloney actors playing make believe for a living, they are the real thing. They aren't college professors opining on social theory, they are movers and shakers. We are in the Army, the Police Force, Engineers, Mechanics, Doctors, Roustabouts, Ranchers, Builders, Manufactures and so forth. We are the Warrior class, and if they push us till we decide to fight, their ass is toast.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:10 PM (bb5+k)

94 Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should be hanged, drawn and quartered Â— strangled by hanging, but released while he is still alive, emasculated, eviscerated and his bowels burnt before him, beheaded, then cut into four parts. His preserved head (par boiled) should be placed on a light post on the Longfellow Bridge in the middle of the Charles River.

Posted by: William Wallace at April 15, 2014 02:10 PM (e8kgV)

95 85 80 If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown Washington, what should you do? Posted by: Tony Soprano at April 15, 2014 06:03 PM (DL2i+) Duck and cover! Posted by: model_1066 at April 15, 2014 06:08 PM (tNrYO) Well.... when the Whitehouse got destroyed in the movie Independence Day... I stood up and applauded.....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 15, 2014 02:11 PM (84gbM)

96 And don't forget Joe Biden's speech today about the bombing. "It was worth it." He apparently meant that it was worth it to come and see how Boston has recovered but it is still an asshole thing to say. Joe Biden: completely out of touch with reality.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 15, 2014 02:11 PM (XUKZU)

97 I just checked out Drudge and recoiled when I saw TFG dressed as Uncle Sam. Uncle Scam.

Posted by: Cheri at April 15, 2014 02:11 PM (VDGzf)

98 Interesting read on history. Posted by: dan-O at April 15, 2014 06:07 PM (D0bIN) Well, for lefties and all their cherished 'nuance': Bad Things = conservatives and/or Republicans Good Things = liberals and/or Democrats facts be damned.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 15, 2014 02:11 PM (tNrYO)

99 1 34? Name 1. Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 05:43 PM (hFL/3) My thoughts exactly Lauren. Ace your sarcasm is wicked today

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2014 02:11 PM (HVff2)

100 "You validate a madman's rantings by engaging with him." - Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 15, 2014 02:12 PM (o3NFc)

101 Uncle FUCKING Scam FIFY 98

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2014 02:12 PM (HVff2)

102 You're losing your protest at the wrong site. Preaching to the choir as it were. Yep, the radical muslims of Iran suck. No doubt about it. Try posting over at the DU or HuffPo or Daily Kos or any number of leftwing sites. That's where minds and hearts need to be changed. Godspeed. Posted by: naturalfake at April 15, 2014 06:01 PM (0cMkb) ----------------------------- Thank you for 'writing off' a human life and recommending nobody try to do SOMETHING/ANYTHING about it - simply because you've 'been there/done that' and it's not your problem

Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 02:13 PM (V0j3u)

103 I recall Occupy tried to blow up a bridge on I-480 in suburban Cleveland, but were arrested before succeeding. Are they right wing? They are in fact domestic terrorists, much like Assistant to the President Bill Ayers.

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 02:13 PM (1Boes)

104 Of course the leftist position of "but AQ-linked!" takes many of these out, but yeah, waaay more than 23: http://preview.tinyurl.com/8w66bw6

Posted by: Country Singer at April 15, 2014 02:14 PM (sBXOp)

105 If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown Washington, what should you do?

Break out the best liquor in the house!

Posted by: Paladin at April 15, 2014 02:14 PM (bxc5w)

106
Take that back. Think the numbers are being pulled from this link:

Jihadist Terrorism: A Threat Assessment

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 15, 2014 02:14 PM (kdS6q)

107 Thank you MH @ 102. You're a poet

Posted by: Cheri at April 15, 2014 02:14 PM (VDGzf)

108 It's a lot easier if you don't buy stuff. Buy used. Buy generic. Grow your own. Use alternatives. Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 06:06 PM (oMKp3) Other than food, I mostly do. As for growing my own, i'm working towards that as quickly as I can. I decided to start with working to keep and maintain my own fuel source. I currently own four natural gas powered vehicles, and a pumping system to fuel them. I'm trying to become as off the grid as possible, because i'm not sure "the grid" is going to be up much longer.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:14 PM (bb5+k)

109

What to do if a nuke goes off in Washington DC?

1) Mourn & miss the Smithsonian Institute;

2) Laugh histerically and hope TFG was at home on ground zero... muhuhahahaha;

3) Denounce myself for 2.

Posted by: OK, thanks, bye at April 15, 2014 02:14 PM (uopHF)

110 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 15, 2014 06:09 PM (0HooB) Ted Cruz can pull the Susan Rice stint and be on all Sunday shows

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (HVff2)

111 Posted by: WalrusRex at April 15, 2014 06:11 PM (XUKZU) When I heard that today I thought. "haven't heard much from Joe, lately"....bet ball gag got put back on as soon as he reached the limo.

Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (HtUkt)

112 Speaking (indirectly) of Speedbump- Maybe one of the Photoshop savvy morons can mock up a picture of Speedbump getting run over by Joker. You know, for Speedbump Day later this week. Even better...make it look like a poster for Speedbump Day as you would for some event like Cinco de Mayo.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (0cMkb)

113 101 "You validate a madman's rantings by engaging with him." - Shih Tzu Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 15, 2014 06:12 PM (o3NFc) NO Shit Tzu?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (84gbM)

114

This guy who works for a George Soros organization is an "analyst."

Did you mean analist?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (AaZet)

115 88 Finally found the damn data set. http://homegrown.newamerica.net/nonjihadist Posted by: Lauren For real????????????????????????????? Included on the list are several "Animal Rights/Environmental"s and "Anarchists," and the only guy to have multiple deaths attributed to him, Bruce Edwards Ivins, was never charged or convicted of anything, nor is there any evidence against him! Complete idiocy.

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (mizYg)

116 Of course the analyst is basically right. If, as a liberal, you want a one party, neo-feudalist state, American style conservatism is a much bigger threat then Islam. Til they start hacking off Teh Ghey's heads.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (CRyse)

117

But the Left has decreed that 'Evil is Cool'.

So if we right-wingers...hereinafter referred to as the designated villains...are supposed to be "evil", then that means we're Cool, right?

If we're so scary, then they should be trying to appease us...just like they do with the jihadists.

Posted by: wheatie at April 15, 2014 02:15 PM (FWbLS)

118 88 Finally found the damn data set. http://homegrown.newamerica.net/nonjihadist Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 06:09 PM (hFL/3) Well huh. There's only 15 deaths on that entire non- jihadi list, regardless of political persuasion. Not 34.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 02:16 PM (oMKp3)

119 Who are the real domestic terrorists? ELF Funny how they just pretend there are no eco-terrorists burning shit down.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 15, 2014 02:17 PM (IdOTf)

120 Ok, So far for actual Right Wing killers I've got Jim David Adkisson -Killed 2 at a Unitarian Church Scott Roeder -Killed Tiller So our grand total is 3. In the past 13 years. It's an epidemic! They included Raymond Franklin Peake -Killed his lawyer. Fellow inmate said to start a revolution, but that's a bit dubious. James von Brunn -Holocaust shooter. Neo Nazi. Not Rightwing Andrew Joseph Stack III -Guy who flew into the Austin IRS building. Also not Rightwing, per his own manifesto. And Bruce Edwards Ivins -Accused of sending the poisonous letters after 911. But even with those not rightwingers added in, our grand total of deaths from non jihadist terrorism is... 11. Take away Ivins, and we're down to 6. So, where'd they get 34 again?

Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 02:18 PM (hFL/3)

121 "You validate a madman's rantings by engaging with him." - Shih Tzu And the LIV looking on, sees someone who won't call out the liar by refuting his/her outrageous claims, so it appears that the liar is right. All it takes is to say, "That's not true and you know it," then proceed to present the facts. The truth is out there, but you'd never know it from listening to spineless Pubbie pols.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 15, 2014 02:18 PM (0HooB)

122 118 If we're so scary, then they should be trying to appease us...just like they do with the jihadists. Posted by: wheatie at April 15, 2014 06:15 PM (FWbLS) Because we do not decapitate those who disagree with us

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2014 02:18 PM (HVff2)

123 11. Take away Ivins, and we're down to 6. So, where'd they get 34 again? Posted by: Lauren BINGO! Here's where they got 34: Out of their asses.

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 02:19 PM (mizYg)

124 91 Note also that back during the original dawning heyday of the New Left, when their various militant affiliates, the Weathermen and the Black Panthers and the SLA, were out pulling lethal stick-up jobs on banks and armored cars, this was always explained away as with a dismissive wave of the hand by other leftists as merely "crime". Instead of being accurately called what it was, which was left-wing terror. Posted by: torquewrench at April 15, 2014 06:10 PM (noWW6) Zombie did an excellent article regarding Barry's whereabouts in New York when a very famous Weather Underground armored car robbery occurred there. For some reason, Barry went to Pakistan shortly thereafter, and doesn't like talking about his New York experience. Oh, and Barry has this weird scar across the top of his head. Looks like he was involved in a pretty serious accident at some time in his past, but for some reason he's never mentioned such a thing. (He also has a compartment wound scar on his leg.)

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:19 PM (bb5+k)

125 Well huh. There's only 15 deaths on that entire non- jihadi list, regardless of political persuasion. Not 34. Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 06:16 PM (oMKp3) But 34 is such a friendly number...

Posted by: Common Core Math at April 15, 2014 02:19 PM (84gbM)

126 If we're so scary, then they should be trying to appease us...just like they do with the jihadists. Posted by: wheatie at April 15, 2014 06:15 PM (FWbLS) Because we do not decapitate those who disagree with us. Yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2014 02:20 PM (CRyse)

127 Like Obama, Obama's progressive allies change the numbers to get the outcome they wish.

And that includes elections.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 15, 2014 02:20 PM (Dwehj)

128 Thank you for 'writing off' a human life and recommending nobody try to do SOMETHING/ANYTHING about it - simply because you've 'been there/done that' and it's not your problem Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 06:13 PM (V0j3u) No one here is doing that. I've personally signed petitions for both the young woman and also Pastor Saeed. Many others here have as well, I'm sure. The person who addressed your post was just attempting to say that you might try spreading the word on other sites that are not as aware of these atrocities. We are on the same team here. Best wishes to you.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2014 02:20 PM (oMKp3)

129 I've been trying to find a definition for "right wing" on the interwebs. Basically just circular definitions. Conservative - reactionary - right wing - conservative...

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 15, 2014 02:21 PM (8MjqI)

130 The truth is out there, but you'd never know it from listening to spineless Pubbie pols. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 15, 2014 06:18 PM (0HooB) I would LOVE to see an online Fact check of all the news shows... like the Red Eye Halftime report...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 15, 2014 02:21 PM (84gbM)

131
OK, did a quick scan of that report. Don't see a list or a cite to a list for their numbers, so I guess you just have to trust that their left wing think tank is categorizing everyone's motivations objectively.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 15, 2014 02:21 PM (kdS6q)

132 Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 06:13 PM (V0j3u) My heart goes out to the woman, but our chance to do something about it was back in 1979.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:22 PM (bb5+k)

133 Thank you for 'writing off' a human life and recommending nobody try to do SOMETHING/ANYTHING about it - simply because you've 'been there/done that' and it's not your problem Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 06:13 PM (V0j3u) Not writing off anything. But- If you really want something to get done, and I mean really want something done- then the people who keep something from being done, i.e.. the Leftards, need to be convinced and confronted- and that means confronting them at the source. Me? I couldn't care less if Iran was nuked tomorrow into a pool of molten glass. They're islamotards - hanging rape victims is what they do. I find it reprehensible- why aren't you confronting those on the Left who don't?

Posted by: naturalfake at April 15, 2014 02:22 PM (0cMkb)

134 Since I'm running a fever I'm just going to pretend I'm hallucinating.

Posted by: Adam at April 15, 2014 02:23 PM (Aif/5)

135 Zombie did an excellent article regarding Barry's whereabouts in New York when a very famous Weather Underground armored car robbery occurred there. For some reason, Barry went to Pakistan shortly thereafter, and doesn't like talking about his New York experience. Oh, and Barry has this weird scar across the top of his head. Looks like he was involved in a pretty serious accident at some time in his past, but for some reason he's never mentioned such a thing. (He also has a compartment wound scar on his leg.) Posted by: D-Lamp a For those who want to while away the afternoon learning how Barry crossed paths with the Weather Underground, here is the essay: http://www.zombietime.com/obama_and_the_weather_underground/ "Barack Obama's Close Encounter with the Weather Underground Did the presidential candidate and the revolutionary terror group cross paths at a violent 1981 anti-Apartheid protest? posted: October 27, 2008 Barack Obama would have you believe that the bombings by the radical domestic terrorists known as The Weather Underground were something that happened "when I was eight years old" and with which he had absolutely no connection. And while it is true that their bombings started when Obama was eight years old, they actually continued until he was twenty years old. And, incredibly, the life of Barack Obama and the terror campaign of the Weather Underground nearly intersected on the evening of September 26, 1981 at an anti-Apartheid protest which turned violent at John F. Kennedy Airport in New York. I'm tempted to say they may have intersected, rather than just "nearly." But I don't know for sure. What I do know is that Obama had the same political interests as the final remnants of the Weather Underground at the exact same time in the exact same place. That as an adult he was living in the same city where and when they conducted their second-to-last terror attack, which was a protest against the Apartheid polices of South Africa -- the very topic to which Obama has said he was devoted at that time. So because of all this, Obama must have known about the Weather Underground and their tactics while he was still in college. So when he met Weather Underground founder William Ayers 13 years later, Obama certainly had to have known exactly who Ayers was and what he had done. " ...etc. With evidence out the wazoo.

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 02:23 PM (mizYg)

136 88 Finally found the damn data set. http://homegrown.newamerica.net/nonjihadist Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 06:09 PM (hFL/3) ============================= First off, NAF calls these cases "non-jihadist". Peter Bergen should explain why he is adding the "right wing" characterization. Second, the worst of the cases is Bruce Ivins, a Ft. Deitrich researcher the FBI now describes as their primary suspect in the anthrax attacks years ago. There is no direct evidence that he was involved. The FBI cites his Catholicism and his expertise in dealing with Anthrax spores, as he was a microbiologist. That's it for evidence, I believe. The others appear to be a mostly collection and I'll bet most are non-political. This is a straight up smear job by CNN, and the network should retract and apologize.

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 02:23 PM (1Boes)

137 Sadly violence tends to work with our "elites." They fold to any Muslim complaint because they know there are enough crazy ones to actually commit violence. One thing I am curious about. The nut job, whose main complaint seemed to be about immigration, in Norway murders a bunch of liberals' kids and suddenly an anti-immigration party is leading the government. I don't know enough about Norway, but more than our ambassador, to understand the dynamics there.

Posted by: Better Feared than Loved at April 15, 2014 02:25 PM (crkWb)

138 And I wonder if he included honor killings in his account. Somehow I doubt it.

Posted by: Adam at April 15, 2014 02:25 PM (Aif/5)

139 Maybe all of these phantom right wing terrorists can get professorships at prestigious universities.

Again, it galls me that anyone on the Left has the nerve to call anyone on the Right at terrorist, given that their own boyfriend was buddies with one.

Posted by: Mike at April 15, 2014 02:25 PM (Rk8LS)

140 Oops, somehow missed a shooting. Christopher and Wade Lay (father and son) who...robbed a bank? I'm not sure why that's on the list at all. They killed a security guard.

Posted by: Lauren at April 15, 2014 02:25 PM (hFL/3)

141 Bet you that 23 doesn't include those murdered by Nidal Hassan while shouting 'Allahu Akbar!'

Posted by: Epobirs at April 15, 2014 02:26 PM (bPxS6)

142 With evidence out the wazoo.

Look, the American public obviously doesn't give a damn about evidence. They clearly demonstrated that in 2008 and then again in 2012. I win! It's good to be King!

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 15, 2014 02:26 PM (Dwehj)

143 How many deaths have been caused by left-wing extremists in the United States since 2001?

Posted by: Boone at April 15, 2014 02:27 PM (aDkn+)

144 ...etc. With evidence out the wazoo. Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 06:23 PM (mizYg) Yes. I was very impressed with the effort you put into that article. Again, it was excellent.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:28 PM (bb5+k)

145 So how do white supremacists qualify as 'right wing?'

Posted by: --- at April 15, 2014 02:28 PM (MMC8r)

146 This guy who works for a George Soros organization is an "analyst." You can't spell "analyst" without "anal." Or "George Soros" either.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 15, 2014 02:28 PM (0HooB)

147 This is really a despicable report. Bergen must really be hurting for money, and the Soros crowd probably threatened to cut off his paycheck unless he got them publicity.

Posted by: MTF at April 15, 2014 02:29 PM (F58x4)

148 Again, it galls me that anyone on the Left has the nerve to call anyone on the Right at terrorist, given that their own boyfriend was buddies with one. Posted by: Mike at April 15, 2014 06:25 PM (Rk8LS) And possibly was one himself. A lot of circumstantial evidence points in that direction. Read Zombie's article.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 15, 2014 02:29 PM (bb5+k)

149 I counted 25 eco-facists.

Posted by: Better Feared than Loved at April 15, 2014 02:29 PM (crkWb)

150 Trayvon Martin shooting: right wing extremism... and racist.

Posted by: CNN at April 15, 2014 02:30 PM (j0wOO)

151 How many deaths have been caused by left-wing extremists in the United States since 2001? We aren't collecting that date either.

Posted by: US Census Bureau at April 15, 2014 02:31 PM (ILBCY)

152 "Real journalists spent a century earning a profession-wide status that earned the public's respect. The modern partisans posing as journalists are coasting on that status."

So, rant all you want, CNN analyst. Nobody cares anymore. Nobody.

Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 05:54 PM (mizYg)

Zombie, I'd suggest the rot started when they ceased being "reporters", i.e. tradesmen who worked their way up the ladder in an apprenticeship system, and started becoming "journalists", who had the heads stuffed full of marxism at some J-school, and never really apprenticed in the trade of word-smithing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 15, 2014 02:31 PM (N91pB)

153 How many deaths have been caused by left-wing extremists in the United States since 2001? We aren't collecting that data either.

Posted by: US Census Bureau at April 15, 2014 02:31 PM (ILBCY)

154 speaking of Soros. Wasn't Cantor going to go hang out at a Soros function soon?

Posted by: willow at April 15, 2014 02:32 PM (nqBYe)

155

137...Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2014 06:23 PM (mizYg)

You do great work, zombie.

I, for one, appreciate it.

There is a shit ton we don't know about Barky's mysterious past.

And the Leftist media turns a blind eye to it...while going all the way back to the kindergarten days of Republican candidates.

I actually do think it is good to know the whole background of our Presidential Candidates...

Because when they have deep dark secrets, they can be blackmailed.

Posted by: wheatie at April 15, 2014 02:33 PM (FWbLS)

156 speaking of Soros. Wasn't Cantor going to go hang out at a Soros function soon? One mopre thing Which group left or right espouses killing fellow citizens for the good of Gaia, or peace?

Posted by: willow at April 15, 2014 02:33 PM (nqBYe)

157 speaking of Soros. Wasn't Cantor going to go hang out at a Soros function soon? One mopre thing Which group left or right espouses killing fellow citizens for the good of Gaia, or peace?

Posted by: willow at April 15, 2014 02:33 PM (nqBYe)

158 So how do white supremacists qualify as 'right wing?' Because Shut Up, that's how.

Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Truthiness at April 15, 2014 02:33 PM (8ZskC)

159
Note that their "Non-Jihadist Cases, 2001-2011" table has a "Deaths Caused" column, while the "Jihadist Cases, 2001-2011" table doesn't.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 15, 2014 02:34 PM (kdS6q)

160 If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown Washington, what should you do?

Break out the best liquor in the house!

Article says 10 kiloton. I'm saving the good stuff till someone does better.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 15, 2014 02:35 PM (L02KD)

161 131 I've been trying to find a definition for "right wing" on the interwebs. Basically just circular definitions. Conservative - reactionary - right wing - conservative... Posted by: bergerbilder at April 15, 2014 06:21 Perhaps under this definition somebody who wants to keep things 7th century is reactionary and therefore right wing. Commie purges of contra-revolutionaries would qualify too. If the progressives ever get their way when they try to preserve their system they'll automatically become right-ringers too. That will require another re-classification of what's good and bad.

Posted by: delurk ergo sum at April 15, 2014 02:35 PM (+bAL7)

162 Nidal Hasan: workplace violence And who works? Likes guns? Is violent? Is pro military? Right Wing Extremists. So, Nidal Hasan: Right Wing Extremist

Posted by: CNN at April 15, 2014 02:35 PM (j0wOO)

163

I donÂ’t think AceÂ’s response covers it all. This was my response on CNN.com.

As a right-leaning person, it wouldn't shock me that right-wing extremists are a threat. (More "deadly" than Muslim extremists? Sure. Only if you rig the numbers by starting the count after 9/11. Which is silly.)

In previous decades, left-wing political extremists were more violent. (They're just not labeled "left-wing," not Bill Ayers, not avowed Marxist Lee Harvey Oswald, not the would be assassins of President Ford, the Black Panthers, etc.) Today, the left has little to be agitated about. The country is moving in their direction and has been for some time.

The major institutions - news & entertainment media, academia and government - are dominated by the left. Even the most wealthy of the wealthy now support left-leaning causes. They set out to turn the country into something else - anything else - and they are succeeding. Not by persuading the electorate, but by changing it via open borders, and by replacing fathers in the home with government dependence. The left has the power. They have no motive to attack the establishment because they are the establishment.

DonÂ’t let the fact that the media has never labeled left wing violence as Â“left wing,Â” or its juvenile inference that conservatives are more prone to political violence, or its PC attempt to inflate it beyond the Muslim extremist threat, make you blind to the fact that the far right might me be sometimes overrepresented in political violence stats.

Posted by: CJ at April 15, 2014 02:36 PM (jbdp1)

164 Duck season. Wabbit season. Daffy knew the artiste, Bugs had an underground lair. Hard to know how to add to that. I hear Porky did not get to be bacon through that. Kind of funny how that logic shows up when it is over, folks.

Posted by: neal at April 15, 2014 02:42 PM (X2BAI)

165 "Right-wing" = "Not of the Body", aka "Death to Unbelievers!!!"

Posted by: --- at April 15, 2014 02:45 PM (MMC8r)

166 Thank you for 'writing off' a human life and recommending nobody try to do SOMETHING/ANYTHING about it - simply because you've 'been there/done that' and it's not your problem

Posted by: alwyr at April 15, 2014 06:13 PM (V0j3u)

What do you expect us to do? Write a strongly-worded letter to the damned mullahs?

About the only thing guaranteed to work would be launch orders to a Trident missile sub, and that ain't in my job description.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 15, 2014 02:46 PM (N91pB)

167

Oh God

ABC News: White supremacists are increasing!

Which is why a penniless old fool in Kansas City Shot up a Jewish Center and killed 3 Christians. The racist was 73 years old. He used to be a KKK grand asshole, had a 5000 man racist white people's party in the 1980's; but has NO friends and is penniless today as he stated in his court appearance.

White Supremacists are increasing?

And again, the KKK was the militant domestic terrorist wing of the Democrat Party since the Civil War.

Posted by: rd at April 15, 2014 02:48 PM (D+lxs)

168

I donÂ’t think AceÂ’s response covers it all. This was my response on CNN.com.

Posted by: CJ at April 15, 2014 04:07 PM (jbdp1)

169 Why start the terrorist death count with 9/11? What about the 1st WTC bombings under Clinton?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 15, 2014 04:11 PM (XO6WW)

170 Hmmm. I wonder why Bergen didn't go with that number?
My granddad liberated Bergen!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at April 15, 2014 04:15 PM (hn5v5)

171 Good comment, CJ.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 15, 2014 04:22 PM (hn5v5)

172 BTW, more abortionists and staff have been killed by "pro-lifers" on Law 'N' Order than in real life.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 15, 2014 04:24 PM (hn5v5)

173 We only have the Bush Administration's worthless word for it that 9/11 was caused by the oppressed Islamic peoples of the world. I personally believe it was a Zionist plot to start a war that would benefit Cheney's Halliburton Corporation and the Carlyle Group of investors. So yes, that would be three thousand people killed by right-wing capitalist war criminals and international bankers.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at April 15, 2014 04:26 PM (m8SHO)

174 CNN wasn't the only one that ran similar stories and accusations. I'll have to search history of comments debates

if you want other publications.

- Off the cuff, I believe the Hill ran one, and the Daily Beast. This is part of their campaign strategy kicking in: Race-baiting, fear-mongering ie conservatives are extremists nut-jobs, the war on women.. and they are just warming up. Get ready, stay calm and don't let anger chose your strategy. May I make a small suggestion? We have all recognized this environment the Left creates resembles descriptions of the "Red Scare" Days and McCarthyism sunk to its basest level. The result is the target group always put on the defensive, and sometimes slightly punchy from the blows. It's hard to get your message out when you are dodging lethal strikes, and even harder to make a long term strategy during continual emergencies. So, what did they do to overcome the attacks and eventually grow strong enough to control most of our schools, media and entertainment? It did not happen overnight. Their strategies might be unethical and something we can't accept as a plan. But, meanwhile, conservatives and libertarians had better get out of the defensive mode. It does not win elections or large followings. An inspiring visionary plan for the future wins hearts and minds. Â“The fault lies not with the mob, who demands nonsense, but with those who do not know how to produce anything else.Â” ― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at April 15, 2014 04:28 PM (s0aOC)

175 Pete Bergen, a test. Make an Easter joke about Jesus and then make a joke about Mohammed during Ramadan. See which carries more risk.

Posted by: Michael J. Bilek at April 15, 2014 04:29 PM (5Zd0D)

176 Also, I keep hearing the left blather on and on about "all those Christians who bomb abortion clinics." Where? When? How many?

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 15, 2014 04:58 PM (I8YZX)

177

Posted by: andycanuck at April 15, 2014 08:22 PM (hn5v5)

We'll have to revisit this, Andy. It's not going to go away.

Posted by: CJ at April 15, 2014 05:10 PM (jbdp1)

178 Presumably you all heard Biden's latest mumbling while in Boston to observe the memorial for the bombing victims; "you have survived and you have soared. It was worth it. " At about 50 sec. into the video. What perfect douche: http://tinyurl.com/mnmurs4

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 15, 2014 05:14 PM (aDwsi)

179 What about all of the leftwing mobs that are killing whites all over the US? Probably dozens, if not hundreds, dead just because the killers hate white people.

Posted by: Baldy at April 15, 2014 06:18 PM (2bql3)

180 "As usual, the Left acts and we react. They say 'jump,' and we jump. Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 15, 2014 05:56 PM (o3NFc) Precisely, but neither can we let a lie spread without a counter message. The problem is how we express a rebuttal. Frankly, too many conservatives and libertarians lose their temper during debates occurring on media and other public sites - as a result, they lose the debate, even when they are have made a valid point (if these commenters actually are the real deal) Its easy to do- left wing trolls will gang up and begin over-the-top baiting and insults, offer straw man or red herring arguments; and people finally snap. But then they appear irrational or the core of their argument is missed by the sound and fury. Too often they too fall into the pattern of leaving off making actual debate points, to return personal insults - and lose the teachable moment - not necessarily to the person who attacks you, but to others following the discussion.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at April 15, 2014 07:43 PM (twRHO)

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