April 02, 2014

Report: CIA's Harsh Interrogations Were More Numerous Than Previously Believed
— Ace

The Democrats don't only have the Koch brothers as their 2014 midterm plan.

It appears they may try to recreate 2006 magic by putting the Bush Administration on trial again. They've complied a report on previously-secret CIA interrogation practices -- and they want to vote to make it public.

Interrogation techniques on foreign terror suspects – a practice that has provoked international condemnation – was more widespread than the agency has publicly acknowledged, Senate investigators have learned.

Moreover, the CIA’s own internal documents confirm the agency’s culpability in the hypothermia death of one Afghan captive – an incident that also has never even been publicly discussed, McClatchy was told.

...

Since the inception of the interrogation program shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the CIA has steadfastly refused to completely describe what happened to the estimated 100 detainees believed to be in its custody.

The committee is scheduled to vote Thursday on what is expected to be a damning 6,000-page report on the CIA practices that Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the committee’s chairwoman, has called “un-American and brutal.”

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Most lawmakers and those familiar with the report agree on this much: “There will be a lot of things in those sections that will be upsetting to people to read,” said the former U.S. official. “But it would make it impossible for the United States to argue that this was defensible.

“There has to be certain levels of sunlight. The CIA and others are still saying these things were necessary and they had good results. But the public needs to know the horrific things that were done. What needs to be known is that these activities did not yield good and actionable and timely intelligence and they’re reprehensible by our own values and they cannot and must not be repeated.”

The report also claims another detainee death, and says that nearly 100 detainees were subject to some level of "enhanced" interrogations, not 30. (Actually the leakers are so vague on this point I strongly suspect the CIA is justified to say that thirty detainees were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques, with the additional ones falling into the "arguable" or "ticky-tack" categories. Additionally, one leaker confirms that the CIA's claim that only three detainees were waterboarded is actually true.)

The CIA admits the death of the Afghan captive, due to hypothermia, but says it was an accident. One of McClatchy's leakers disputes that, calling it either "willful negligence or even negligent homicide."

For those who say that controlling the Senate means nothing, well, it means something: Democrats (and Democrat-allied Senator King of Maine) will probably vote to pass this on to the President with a recommendation to declassify.

On the other hand, should some kind of inquiry ever be made into Government Motors' cover-ups of malfunctioning cars and resulting deaths, I'm sure these same solid citizens will deem it proper to keep it classified and/or redacted down to the punctuation until 2065.

"The equities" must be protected, you know, as Victoria Nuland said when she deleted any reference to a terrorist attack from the White House talking points on Benghazi.

Posted by: Ace at 09:26 AM | Comments (251)
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1 Wow, one dead in a war.

Posted by: southTexas at April 02, 2014 09:28 AM (Oc7QX)

2 Foist?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 02, 2014 09:28 AM (R5UOB)

3 Saw this yesterday.... When all else fails blame BUSH!

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 02, 2014 09:28 AM (9+ccr)

4 As we descend into feudalism, why not bring back old school torture?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 02, 2014 09:28 AM (/qzu7)

5 If only WE could use these techniques!

Posted by: NSA at April 02, 2014 09:29 AM (R5UOB)

6 Should have just drone striked their asses. That's the approved humane way, correct? Oh I forgot. BUSHHHHH!

Posted by: RWC at April 02, 2014 09:29 AM (fWAjv)

7 One of McClatchy's leakers disputes that, calling it either "willful manslaughter or negligent homicide." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm good either way.

Posted by: Scruntly McScrunterson at April 02, 2014 09:30 AM (LSJmV)

8 The stench of fear & desperation is strong and we are still 8 months away.

Posted by: Casual Observer from the watchtower at April 02, 2014 09:30 AM (qBRoN)

9 Dead Jihadi? So sad.

Posted by: garrett at April 02, 2014 09:31 AM (4ohpZ)

10 Not many FBI documents read like crime thrillers, but the criminal complaint of the FBI's case against the Chee Kung Tong in California could have sprung from the mind of a screenwriter. In the affidavit, undercover FBI agents discuss alleged firsthand meetings with a shady Chinese community leaders, felonious political operatives, and a state senator who now stands accused of taking bribes and brokering an international arms deal. To read the document is to enter a world of drug smuggling, gun running, political favors, murder-for-hire plots, and quid pro quo election fundraising.

And it's got weapons. Scores of them. To understand the weapons at play is to understand this scandal and its players. With that in mind, here's a rundown of who's packing what.

Posted by: Harry Reid's minion at April 02, 2014 09:31 AM (e8kgV)

11 I am tortured every fucking day by this inept, whining administration and its media toadies. Where is the outrage on my behalf?

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 02, 2014 09:31 AM (6H6o8)

12 Good thing not changing a one-time sock ain't a barrel offense.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 02, 2014 09:31 AM (LSJmV)

13 I read they didn't talk to any Republicans or others who had a different take. Not convenient for them as it wouldn't make Bush, and the Republicans, look bad...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 02, 2014 09:31 AM (9+ccr)

14 Still waiting for the Benghazi interrogation techniques report to be declassified. Boy do I have a story to tell

Posted by: Chris Stevens at April 02, 2014 09:31 AM (R5UOB)

15 If a video caused them to kill an ambassador and 3 others, what will this make them do?

Posted by: Adam at April 02, 2014 09:31 AM (Aif/5)

16 Barry's interrogation by drone is soooo much better

Posted by: George S. Patton at April 02, 2014 09:32 AM (kFxpe)

17 This could never come back to bite Obama because after knowing these things, he closed Guantanamo.

Posted by: shillelagh at April 02, 2014 09:32 AM (hRzu2)

18 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 02, 2014 09:32 AM (PYAXX)

19 I don't trust any claims at all in a "Senate report" that is coming out of a committee controlled by Senator Dianne Fein-ken-stein.

As a longtime observer of Princess DiFi going back to the 1970s, I will note that she's as careless with the actual truth as Pelosi is, if not more so.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2014 09:32 AM (noWW6)

20 Uh... the CIA is mostly leftist. The leadership, anyway. Watching the left do this is like watching Erkel pick a fight with Tyson. hand that feeds you shit where you eat kinda thing. Popcorn? Anyone? Cold drinks in the fridge.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 09:32 AM (x3YFz)

21 These are the same animals who are beheading and crucifying Christians all over Africa, Asia and the Middle East...but we should afford them rights, because Obama didn't get a chance to drone them?

Posted by: garrett at April 02, 2014 09:32 AM (4ohpZ)

22 I've moved beyond this.  If they got useful information from them, then I don't care.  Good for the CIA.  Maybe they aren't the complete fuck ups we think they are.


Anyone ever watch "Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead"?  Chris Walken, playing a mob boss, asks a former henchman to make a boyfriend of a girl go away so his own son has a shot at winning her back.


"Jimmy, I want this kid braced.  I want him so he'd sooner fuck the Fry-O-lator at McDonalds than ever laying eyes on Meg again!"


Posted by: EC at April 02, 2014 09:33 AM (GQ8sn)

23 RAAAAAPE!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Feminists at April 02, 2014 09:33 AM (R5UOB)

24 Wasn't Hillary! in the Senate then?  What did Hillary! know and when did she know it?  And if she knew, why did she not stop it.

Posted by: CUS at April 02, 2014 09:33 AM (wcLJG)

25 Bush isn't running.

Posted by: --- at April 02, 2014 09:33 AM (MMC8r)

26 The Koch brothers built the secret torture chambers used by Bush and Cheney.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 02, 2014 09:33 AM (/Nxsb)

27

"Who cares?" is the only proper response to any of this. 

A nation with any sense of self and self-preservation would do much, much worse to anyone connected with Al Qaeda.  The proper moral response to the suffering of muslims at Guantanamo is indifference.

Posted by: Sam In VA at April 02, 2014 09:34 AM (Q52VH)

28 Was the prisoner American?  If not, he has    no protection from the bill of rights.   Was the prisoner in a military uniform?  If not, he has no protection from the Geneva convention.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 02, 2014 09:34 AM (eoeps)

29 Here's a plan: make an enemy of the CIA (crowd laughter)

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 09:34 AM (x3YFz)

30 With that in mind, here's a rundown of who's packing what.


Smith and Wesson E-Series?

Posted by: EC at April 02, 2014 09:34 AM (GQ8sn)

31 Palate cleanser.
http://is.gd/Tdqo1Y

Posted by: HR needs a beer at April 02, 2014 09:34 AM (ZKzrr)

32 The committee is scheduled to vote Thursday on what is expected to be a damning 6,000-page report on the CIA practices that Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the committee’s chairwoman, has called “un-American and brutal.”



You'll pardon me, Miss   Feinstein,   if I don't trust your assessment of anything being    in terms as extreme as   "un-American and brutal" when you are a member of a party that considers    childhood obesity and AGW to be    national security threats.     Come back when you've learned    how    to   express yourself     in anything other than reactionary   extremist terms and maybe I'll give you a     moment of my precious time.   Until then,   shit or get off the pot.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 09:35 AM (4df7R)

33 Well, they've been running against Herbert Hoover for the past 80 years - this should be a cakewalk for them.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at April 02, 2014 09:35 AM (hLRSq)

34 I.Don't.Give.A.Shit.

Posted by: Fistin Pug at April 02, 2014 09:35 AM (vFh9Q)

35 The democrats are really stupidÂ…. Going after the CIA? Really?? I see more takedowns of the democrats by the FBIÂ…..

Posted by: redguy at April 02, 2014 09:36 AM (d8wEw)

36 The report also claims another detainee death, and says that nearly 100 detainees were subject to some level of "enhanced" interrogations, not 30. only 100? If I was the president at the time i'd change my nick to waterboardjoe they are terrorists even more, they were combatants not in uniform...the Geneva convention allows for summary execution...should have shot them on sight

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 02, 2014 09:36 AM (Ft87j)

37 Johnny Lindh Walker went to Afghanistan to fight for jihad.  He sat amongst other terrorists in a prison.  Knew they were going to revolt and did nothing.  So Mike Spann was killed.

Crimea river you useless goat felching power crazed wastes of human skin of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 09:36 AM (7oL8c)

38 The only anger I feel over this is that I wasn't there to see these POSs suffer.

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2014 09:36 AM (MzhHs)

39 You do that, Democrats. Please, run on Bush again. Because the failures of your toolbag President are non-existent.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at April 02, 2014 09:36 AM (EYfcP)

40 Bush was a war criminal. Obama redefining who an enemy combatant is is bold and brave.

Posted by: The Washington Post at April 02, 2014 09:37 AM (Aif/5)

41 'Efff it. If the dems are going to reveal classified information for political gain, we should do the same. Reveal the plots that enhanced interrogation actually stopped. Reveal the plots that weren't stopped and show the body count that ensued due to excessive PC sensitivities. Make the dems choke on the body count. Put a face to it. "Suzy Smith died due to intellrestrictions put in place by Nancy Pelosi."

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 02, 2014 09:37 AM (C+qQ0)

42  Where is the outrage on my behalf?

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 02, 2014 01:31 PM (6H6o

 

 

Come right on in, you're at the right place, friend.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at April 02, 2014 09:37 AM (hLRSq)

43 This is getting ugly, and it will only get worse seeing the state of the upcoming races. I'm not sure of the impact of this when you see what is happening in Russia, etc. Even though the benghazi testimony is a joke, there's a couple of good "ads" to come out of it. One that Al Qaeda and their ideology is on the rise. Just jam that ad back in their throats. Especially after the Boston bombing. These heinous acts are what interrogations are for.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2014 09:37 AM (IXrOn)

44 Only in America can you be damned for accidentally killing a suicide bomber during interrogations.

Posted by: garrett at April 02, 2014 09:37 AM (4ohpZ)

45 Should have just drone striked their asses.


That's the approved humane way, correct?

The official story on the droning of Anwar al Awlaki's son (two weeks after droning the father) is that he was sitting in a cafe where a known al Qaida operative was supposed to be.  Apparently now it's OK to drone a cafe, killing 19 people sitting around without eyes on the target.

Hey, he was supposed to be there, right?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 02, 2014 09:37 AM (8ifMA)

46 here they go again, another round of shadow wars.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 02, 2014 09:37 AM (5gbS5)

47 31 Palate cleanser. http://is.gd/Tdqo1Y Posted by: HR needs a beer +++++++++++++++++++++++ Aaahhhh.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 02, 2014 09:38 AM (LSJmV)

48

The only anger I feel over this is that I wasn't there to see these POSs suffer.

Posted by: Soona

 

--

 

Agree.  That,     or to help administer the punishment.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 02, 2014 09:38 AM (eoeps)

49 "RAAAAAPE!!!!!!!!!!!" Yeah, but was it rape-rape?

Posted by: Whoopi at April 02, 2014 09:38 AM (gOoFi)

50 I'll have to consider all of this on my work in "critical a-hole studies"

Posted by: Larry Flynt at April 02, 2014 09:38 AM (e8kgV)

51 The report also claims another detainee death, and says that nearly 100 detainees were subject to some level of "enhanced" interrogations, not 30.



I   have an overwhelming urge to shrug and say, "So?"   



I think I'll indulge myself.



*shrug*   So?   


They're     primitive    goat fucking,   baby-raping Jihadis.      I really do not give a shit.   If they were uniformed military of a sovereign nation that might be a slightly different story   because    Geneva Convention, but this?   Uh, no.   Sorry.    My   "Give a Shit"   Meter does not, in fact,   give a shit.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 09:38 AM (4df7R)

52 So we can drone a cafe but not bomb a wedding party...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 09:38 AM (7oL8c)

53 BTW - picking a fight with the CIA is never a good idea, not if you have secrets you would like to stay secret.  And this Administration and this Senate have more skeletons than than a cemetary.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at April 02, 2014 09:38 AM (hLRSq)

54 You know who was tortured to death? **indicates to self with thumbs** This guy.

Posted by: Zombie Moamar Quadafy at April 02, 2014 09:39 AM (4ohpZ)

55 Umm, I'm thinking even the LIVs don't give a shit about this. But hey, whatever.

Posted by: jeannebodine at April 02, 2014 09:39 AM (2LJqa)

56 "The only thing we have to offer is fear itself." (Really, that's about all we got.)

Posted by: DNC at April 02, 2014 09:39 AM (gOoFi)

57 The Koch brothers built the secret torture chambers used by Bush and Cheney. Posted by: Harry Reid at April 02, 2014 01:33 PM (/Nxsb) hehe the tweets following the SC decision is insane it's all Koch all the time twitchy

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2014 09:39 AM (IXrOn)

58 Did they use the *gasp* COMFY CHAIR?

Posted by: huerfano at April 02, 2014 09:40 AM (bAGA/)

59 "So we can drone a cafe but not bomb a wedding party..." Was it a gay wedding party...?

Posted by: Concern People at April 02, 2014 09:40 AM (gOoFi)

60 It'll work, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 09:40 AM (5Kf7w)

61 i'm still pissed over some seals that got courtmartialed over giving some terrorist a fat lip sorry but if a seal gives you only a fat lip I think you came out of it in damn good shape

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 02, 2014 09:40 AM (Ft87j)

62 So the Democrats have fully realized Edward Snowden.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2014 09:41 AM (IXrOn)

63 Given the fact that     virtually every news outlet in this country has already lied about stories to assist democrats, I can only imagine what they will invent from    whole cloth and yell from the rooftops as the    election draws near.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 02, 2014 09:41 AM (eoeps)

64 Anybody who believes we can be too harsh when interrogating people whose soul purpose in life is to murder your families, raise your hand.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 02, 2014 09:41 AM (GGCsk)

65 We're all Snowden's now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2014 09:41 AM (IXrOn)

66 Were any of those terrorists wearing yoga pants?

Ah...screw it.
If these idiot's are replaying "Bush was torturing kittens", they have seen internal polling for the mid-term that has them scared shitless.
And on top of that, when the real ObamaCare signup numbers come out, it will be like another kick in the nads.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 02, 2014 09:41 AM (si68n)

67 Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at April 02, 2014 01:38 PM (hLRSq) That's only true when the senior CIA officials believe in the original mission of the CIA!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 09:41 AM (o3MSL)

68 "You know who was tortured to death? **indicates to self with thumbs** This guy." They were cramming that stick pretty deep in your ass.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (gOoFi)

69 So is it true or not that the CIA only waterboarded 3 terrorists?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (ZPrif)

70 59 it's all Koch all the time shouldn't this comment be in the prior post about yoga pants and teen boys?

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (Ft87j)

71 The new face of the Democrat Party: Edward Snowden.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (IXrOn)

72

Call me callous but I think having to make the decision of jumping off a high rise building or being burnt to death is a pretty cruel.

 

I think that sitting in an aircraft  that will be used as a missle and calling your loved ones for the last time is pretty cruel.

 

Being a woman, Christian, or child in an Islamic state is pretty cruel.  Stonings, genital mutilation, child marriage/rape, beheadings, etc. etc.

 

Excuse me if I don't give a shit about detainees.

Posted by: Cheri at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (G+Wff)

73 So we can drone a cafe but not bomb a wedding party...

Good point. 

Keep in mind that when Obama was asked about killing the kid, who was not suspected of being a terrorist, was "He should have picked a better father."

Maybe the kid was a murderous bastard.  Or maybe he was just looking to find and talk some sense into his Dad. 

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (8ifMA)

74 You see, when Republicans are going to run on Nothing, and the Democrats have Nothing to run on, the Democrats are wise to fall back on tried-and-true alternatives. Politics loves a vacuum.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (5Kf7w)

75 VIA, they are Democrats by definition they lack nads...  

All they have are mewling dick slots.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 09:42 AM (7oL8c)

76 How can you come out of your shell if something is sitting on you?

Posted by: Fistin Pug at April 02, 2014 09:43 AM (vFh9Q)

77 25 Bush isn't running. Posted by: --- at April 02, 2014 01:33 PM (MMC8r) He wasn't running in 2008, either. Did that stop the Dems?

Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2014 09:43 AM (zoehZ)

78 As we descend into feudalism Almost there.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 02, 2014 09:43 AM (OPTxt)

79 How do we work Ted Cruz's name into this report?

Posted by: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN at April 02, 2014 09:43 AM (LSJmV)

80 We lost a true hero the other day, Admiral Jeremiah Denton who knew what real torture was. The Democrats are assholes to bring up this trivial  shit now...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 02, 2014 09:43 AM (3khYP)

81 At this point what difference does it make!?!? Oh wait, wrong scandal.

Posted by: Hilary Clinton at April 02, 2014 09:43 AM (Aif/5)

82 Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the committee’s chairwoman, has called “un-American and brutal.” Whereas, killing 4 thousand innocent Americans who were only guilty of going to work one day? Not that brutal. Suicide bombers? Not that brutal. Misogynist pin-dicks who mutilate their women's genitals, send them out in public wearing Hefty bags and murder them for talking to strangers? Not that brutal.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 02, 2014 09:44 AM (7ObY1)

83 Is there another type of "enhanced" interrogation that the Left has now said is torture as well? Does anything other than climate control, cable TV, halal meals, high speed internet and a free Koran count as "enhanced" interrogation now?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 09:44 AM (ZPrif)

84 They were cramming that stick pretty deep in your ass. It was like I was Obama, and they were Reggie Love right after Ohio State went out in Round 1.

Posted by: Zombie Moamar Quadafy at April 02, 2014 09:44 AM (4ohpZ)

85 81 How do we work Ted Cruz's name into this report? Koch. I want Koch.

Posted by: Noted Pederast Hairy Reid at April 02, 2014 09:44 AM (7ObY1)

86 The take I have on this?  The CIA was doing what we hired them to do.  People willing to do the work most Americans don't want to do.

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (MzhHs)

87 Any Republican asked about this should merely respond:

"All of these allegations were made by Presidential Candidate Barack Obama and he promised to closed Gitmo. Gitmo remains open still today. I think that speaks to the truth of the allegations."

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (VjL9S)

88 Politics loves a vacuum.
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 01:42 PM (5Kf7w)
And as Nancy Pelosi said : "Embrace the suck."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (/Nxsb)

89 >>>"willful negligence or even negligent homicide." Well taking the charge apart, while you have no right to be at a comfortable temperature, you do have a right not to freeze to death. Allowing a detainee to freeze to death *is* negligence since he had a right that you as the detainer would take reasonable steps to prevent that. If he was being deliberately made to be cold for any reason then it would be "Willful" negligence, and if he died as a result, negligent homicide. Now if it can be shown that the detainee made no effort to survive the cold, and deliberately exacerbated his condition then the charge could not be sustained, as a detainer you have the right to expect your detainees to *try* and survive adverse conditions and your actions cannot be thought of as negligent if, while in otherwise good mental health, they do not.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (0q2P7)

90 This is especially rich since this comes out just two days before the March jobs data is released. Not like the R's would politicize obama's jobs data report, but still...

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (5Kf7w)

91 Many on the Left believe making a terrorist cold, hungry, or tired counts as torture.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (ZPrif)

92 Keep in mind that when Obama was asked about killing the kid, who was not suspected of being a terrorist, was "He should have picked a better father." He should know.

Posted by: garrett at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (4ohpZ)

93

Some consultancy was paid a great deal of money to come    up with the strategy of running against Bush and the CIA,

 

and the democrats are proud to run with it, even if it    inevitably causes people to die from islamic pushback.

 

Think about that.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (eoeps)

94 Who is more evil: the Koch Brothers or Harry Reid?

Who gave us Obamacare?
A stagnated, crumbling economy?
High unemployment?
Destruction of private businesses?
No budgets for years?
The highest debt in our nations history?
The highest level if welfare ever?
An open border?

I am pretty sure it wasn't the Koch Brothers.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (GGCsk)

95

OT, but Powerline has discovered the existence of something called the "Congressional Review Act" that allows Congress to reject (by simple majority) any regulation enacted by the executive branch. 

 

Is the vote subject to veto?  Yes, but it could be a huge power to have if the GOP manages to take the Senate.

 

http://bit.ly/1lCgkno

Posted by: MTF at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (LISuA)

96 I'm gonna predict that this report sees 50 times the airtime coverage from the MSM than Fast n Furious, Benghazi, and the IRS targeting conservatives stories combined.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 02, 2014 09:45 AM (wNF3N)

97 "Was the prisoner in a military uniform? If not, he has no protection from the Geneva convention."

This is pretty much what I argued for from the beginning of the whole mess. No torture or anything that could be described as such. To instead play it strictly by the book, and say to jihadi prisoners:

"You're a combatant, provably so. You're not wearing a clearly identifiable uniform. It has been allowable under the Geneva protocols for many years to have military firing squads execute spies and saboteurs and commandoes who engage in combat without such a uniform."

::: meaningful pause :::

"In case you think the American law or Constitution shields you and your fellows, the U.S. Supreme Court specifically heard and rejected such an appeal in 1942, and we executed a group of Germans under circumstances similar to yours. Have your lawyer discuss _Ex parte Quirin_ with you."

::: second meaningful pause :::

"But you and your fellow defendants should not spend too much time on such discussions because all your drumhead courts-martial begin on Thursday at zero six hundred hours. Meanwhile, I'm going to be selecting marksmen for the firing squad detail. If you decide you'd like to talk to me again before the proceeding convenes, ask the guard. Good day."

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2014 09:46 AM (noWW6)

98 OK.... let's break down this fight, sportsfans. In the commie corner, we have a bunch of limp wristed pussies with degrees they never earned because of daddy, but from ivy league universities. They weigh in at 120lbs, soaking wet, holding a brick and are horrified by the image on twitter of a 9mm round. In the Yer Fucked corner, we have former SEALs, Regiment, Force Recon and the finest minds we can recruit. They weigh in at 180lbs, don't say shit, are masters at separating emotion from event and know how to hump 300lbs for 20 days at 8 thousand feet. FIGHT!

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 09:46 AM (x3YFz)

99 That's only true when the senior CIA officials believe in the original mission of the CIA!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 01:41 PM (o3MSL)

 

 

They seem to believe in self-preservation and revenge.  That is a pretty powerful motivator right there.  So yeah, I wouldn't want to antagonize them too much, even if it is the Administration the entire press is in love with.*

 

*I am not saying this is good or right.  Just that it is.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at April 02, 2014 09:46 AM (hLRSq)

100 Meh, If I were the Rep leadership or hell, the CIA, I'd find some victims of the Boston terrorist bombing willing to go on camera and show their wounds. And have them voice their support for either enhanced interrogation or torture to get info that prevents other Americans from having to suffer what they did. Of course this is Assachusetts. All they may want to do is whine over the fate of poor Speedbump.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 02, 2014 09:46 AM (0cMkb)

101 Does anything other than climate control, cable TV, halal meals, high speed internet and a free Koran count as "enhanced" interrogation now?

Are they still allowed to play death metal and slow, creepy versions of kids tunes.

"I looooove yeeeew,
Yeeeeew looooooooove meeeeee,
Weeeeeee're a hapyyyyyyyyyy faaaaaaamiiiiiiiiiiileeeeeeeee"

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 02, 2014 09:46 AM (8ifMA)

102 You wanna know how politics are done? Just watch this Friday as the UE numbers are released. obama will take another victory lap while simultaneously demanding the House R's pass another UE extension.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 09:47 AM (5Kf7w)

103 "All they have are mewling dick slots"

Somewhere out there are upstanding traditional democratic voters.
And they try to do what they think is best for their country, and their family.


And at least one of them holding a healthcare cancellation notice in one hand, and  is now thinking "Did the guy who told me that I could keep my healthcare just tell me that seven million people signed up?"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 02, 2014 09:47 AM (si68n)

104 Droning people *to death* willy nilly while feeling cool and powerful about your kill list is so much more compassionate and, let's not forget, smart, than harsh interrogations to obtain information from jihadis. Oh, and harsh interrogation techniques creates more terrorists but droning people, including innocent ones, will make the Middle East love us. And before anyone thinks I have sympathy for the jihadis being droned, I think it has been made clear that the administration/Obama (PBUH) didn't really take the time to make sure they were killing the right people.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 09:48 AM (r+7wo)

105 Maybe they could bring Bush and Cheney up on trial for war crimes? That would be a dandy distraction from no jobs, jobs going from full time to part time, the debacle of Obamacare and our messed foreign policy

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 02, 2014 09:48 AM (XyM/Y)

106 Keep in mind that when Obama was asked about killing the kid, who was not suspected of being a terrorist, was "He should have picked a better father."
Posted by: bonhomme at April 02, 2014 01:42 PM (8ifMA)
Yeah, he should have picked Frank Marshall Davis.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 02, 2014 09:48 AM (/Nxsb)

107

 Bush isn't running.
Posted by: --- at April 02, 2014 01:33 PM (MMC8r)

 

He wasn't running in 2008, either. Did that stop the Dems?

Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2014 01:43 PM (zoehZ)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

And 2012.  Unfortunately, when it comes to the LIV, running against Bush works.  I'm really starting to hate half this country. 

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2014 09:48 AM (MzhHs)

108 Actually, looking at Jeb's travel schedule, it appears that Bush is running.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 09:49 AM (ZPrif)

109 btw, do you know what obama is doing today? he's in Michigan pimping his whim to raise the Minimum Wage. Remember all that Ukraine Crimea crisis bullshit last week? Yeah, all gone. Disappeared. We're back to this important issue now.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 09:49 AM (5Kf7w)

110 "Any Republican asked about this should merely respond:  'All of these allegations were made by Presidential Candidate Barack Obama and he promised to closed Gitmo. Gitmo remains open still today. I think that speaks to the truth of the allegations.'"

We'd have to hold down damn near every one of the Beltway Republican contingent and strap a Port-A-Spine onto them first, to give an actual ballsy brassy bossy answer, rather than their customary lame, handwaving equivocation.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2014 09:49 AM (noWW6)

111 Okay, now tell me what the Republicans are doing today. /waiting

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 09:50 AM (5Kf7w)

112 Is it torture to deprive them of that sweet, sweet goat ass?

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 02, 2014 09:50 AM (LSJmV)

113 VIA weren't you referring to the Democrat party leadership in your original post in reference to the nads?  That was how I was responding, the leadership is always agitating and crying about injustice.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 09:50 AM (7oL8c)

114 This story is bullshit. "Interrogation techniques on foreign terror suspects – a practice that has provoked international condemnation – was more widespread than the agency has publicly acknowledged, Senate investigators have learned. What the Fuck? "Interrogation Techniques"? How about "Reporters Confirm Headlines from Media Contain Buzzwords!" Don't ever believe anything from a McClatchy media outlet. Their people are all far left arrogant assholes.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 02, 2014 09:51 AM (Y+fPp)

115 And 2012. Unfortunately, when it comes to the LIV, running against Bush works. I'm really starting to hate half this country.

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2014 01:48 PM (MzhHs)



"Which is why Jeb Bush is our best candidate to win the White House in 2016!"


-Karl Rove

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 09:51 AM (4df7R)

116 torquewrench at April 02, 2014 01:46 PM (noWW6) ************ Yup. Or go the total other way. Give them full prisoner of war status. All of it. But...no release until war is over. Which will be arround about when hell freezes over. No lawyer, no nothing. Admittedly, I like your method better. But I would reluctantly accept my method, if it kept the supreme court and all the lawfare turds out of this.

Posted by: Taco Shack at April 02, 2014 09:52 AM (C+qQ0)

117 The creemeenull Boosh waterboarded the wrong guys. You lot should crowd-source a snatch of the ex-Judenrat Esperantist and waterboard him to see what out next move will be.

Posted by: Pencil-necked Marxist Theoretician buckin' those headwinds of reality, on a way strewn with kiosks at April 02, 2014 09:52 AM (1/4XQ)

118 This story is hinting that waterboarding was more widespread than acknowledged. But that's not what it actually says. It wants you to think that, though. It seems.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 09:52 AM (ZPrif)

119 Is it torture to deprive them of that sweet, sweet goat ass?

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 02, 2014 01:50 PM (LSJmV)



Is it torture   to make them eat the goat after they've   indulged in some of that sweet   goaty   poon-tang?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 09:52 AM (4df7R)

120 There are thousands of children with no fathers due to these islamic turds.  I have no   compunctions about anything done to an un-uniformed terrorist that can possibly prevent another American death.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 02, 2014 09:52 AM (eoeps)

121 I think Nigeria once asked Interpol to arrest Dick Cheney as a war criminal.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 09:52 AM (7oL8c)

122 And at least one of them holding a healthcare cancellation notice in one hand, and is now thinking "Did the guy who told me that I could keep my healthcare just tell me that seven million people signed up?" Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 02, 2014 01:47 PM (si68n) The bullshit piles up so deep during Democrat administrations, you need wings to stay above it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 02, 2014 09:54 AM (OPTxt)

123 So, the day after it is revealed that obama's UAW-built cars have killed more than a dozen people, here we are, defending the CIA's interrogation methods on evil terrorists.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 09:54 AM (5Kf7w)

124 I couldn't give less of a shit about anything that happened to any damn terrorist. It pisses me off to no end that any American who lived through 9/11 does.

Posted by: Kate at April 02, 2014 09:54 AM (3hwuo)

125 106 Droning people *to death* willy nilly while feeling cool and powerful about your kill list is so much more compassionate and, let's not forget, smart, than harsh interrogations to obtain information from jihadis. Oh, and harsh interrogation techniques creates more terrorists but droning people, including innocent ones, will make the Middle East love us. And before anyone thinks I have sympathy for the jihadis being droned, I think it has been made clear that the administration/Obama (PBUH) didn't really take the time to make sure they were killing the right people. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 01:48 PM (r+7wo) A hammer can be used to kill someone or build a house for them. It's a tool. Drones, govt agencies: tools. Don't misattribute responsibility by blaming the tool.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 09:54 AM (x3YFz)

126 Wonder what would happen if you tried to grab one of them there eagle eggs?

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 02, 2014 09:54 AM (LSJmV)

127 Is it torture to deprive them of that sweet, sweet goat ass?

Who cares?  But the goat will be grateful.

Posted by: HR needs a beer at April 02, 2014 09:54 AM (ZKzrr)

128 The reports continue to refer to the report as a 'Senate Investigation' report.   Does anyone know who exactly in the Senate produced this report?  Admittedly I am trying to avoid reading through all of the muckity muck if someone has the answer. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2014 09:55 AM (m2CN7)

129 123 I think Nigeria once asked Interpol to arrest Dick Cheney as a war criminal. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 01:52 PM (7oL8c) Really? I thought that was one of the European countries. I don't think Nigeria cared much about Dick Cheney. Sure, we have a rabid Islamic north, but we haven't had a muslim president in over a decade.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 09:55 AM (r+7wo)

130 I consider myself a civil libertarian, but I really have no issue with straight up torture if you're talking about enemies on the battlefield. 

So we can shoot them in the head, but we can't pour water on their face?  It's ridiculous.

Since when does the Constitution apply to someone we're at war with?  How did such a ridiculous concept ever even see the light of day?

Posted by: McAdams at April 02, 2014 09:56 AM (nbQjb)

131 Don't misattribute responsibility by blaming the tool.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 01:54 PM (x3YFz)



That's not what chique is doing.   Rather,   she was pointing out the absurd hypocrisy of saying that    torturing   known jihadis    for information     is   OMG SO MUCH WORSE   than   droning   alleged terrorists by the score,   and killing more than a few innocents at the same time.    That is what the left and the MFM (BIRM) are trying to do, and we should not let them do so.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 09:56 AM (4df7R)

132 I know we're supposed to be outrageously outraged against torture. I get that. I'm just struggling to really, really care about people who routinely used power tools on their captives.

Posted by: joncelli at April 02, 2014 09:56 AM (RD7QR)

133 Chique d'afrique, not sure.  So many different leftist groups were agitating for Cheney to be arrested, I have lost track.  I think Belgium might have been one also.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 09:57 AM (7oL8c)

134 Don't misattribute responsibility by blaming the tool. Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 01:54 PM (x3YFz) That's what I was trying to accomplish with my last paragraph. I don't mind droning jihadis, but we need to be careful to make sure it's only bad guys that are being killed. Which Obama didn't really care about judging from the statement Carney (?) made that a few people cited in this thread.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 09:57 AM (r+7wo)

135 but we haven't had a muslim president in over a decade. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 01:55 PM (r+7wo) /looks at watch /looks at history books Um....

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 09:57 AM (x3YFz)

136 I'm just struggling to really, really care about people who routinely used power tools on their captives.

Like at abortion clinics?

Posted by: Underprivileged Whitey at April 02, 2014 09:57 AM (Cs2tJ)

137 Anna,

A little bit of the leadership, and a little bit of the followers.

You are correct that the feckless Democratic leadership has no nads.
Or Morals.
Or ethics
Nor love of Country.

But I think the real kick in the junk is going to be the voters.
Some of them are Low Information, but dependable lever pullers for the party that enslaves them in exchange for free and shiny shit.

They, for the most part are beyond redemption, and during the dooming times, we need to wish them luck, and a fervent that their chains of slavery rest lightly on their shoulders.

The blue collar worker trying to support his/her family, and does not qualify for healthcare subsidies is gonna take a shot to the balls that will not quit.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 02, 2014 09:58 AM (si68n)

138 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 02, 2014 01:56 PM (4df7R) Thanks twin. You are always so eloquent.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 09:58 AM (r+7wo)

139 "Like at abortion clinics?" Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 02, 2014 09:58 AM (gOoFi)

140 To destroy America, first you must destroy the *idea* of America. The only comfort here is that process has taken many decades. For the first time in my life I wonder if, instead of being born too soon, I was born too late.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 02, 2014 09:59 AM (qyfb5)

141 Once again the left and enemies of America want to eat the sausage but don't want to know how the sausage is made.  And when you tell them how its made , they insist that it would  taste the same or better if it was made a different way,  instead of disgusting meat by products, you made it out of marshmallows  and skittles.

Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2014 09:59 AM (m2CN7)

142 ~ tap tap tap tap tap ~ ... of course Hadji worked for the CIA. Hadji was the opening act for the enhanced interrogation at the secret undisclosed location outside of Scranton in the Poconos. Hadji tortured them with laughter ... wait, this microphone? It is on? Yes? and so... Hello! It is I, Hadji, the only comic to have made a person laugh directly after the water boarding ... at least the water came forth from the nose of the person. Hadji calls it as he sees it. And so, Hadji will now make with the funny: What is the distinction between the sawing off the head of a heathen and the smearing of red ink on the chest of a lion of Allah? Only one sends Andrew Sullivan into a tizzy. What is the difference between the uterus of Sarah Palin and the events that caused the death of US contractors? Only one is worth the investigative actions of Andrew Sullivan. Not funny? This stuff was killer in the 2006 times. Hadji tries newer material ... What is the difference between ace and an Israeli tank? one spends all day and all night defending Israel, the other gets stuck in the mud on Fox TV. Hadji ... he slices like the hammer. Thank you Thank you Thank you Tip your waitresses, they have to plan for the future in which John Kerry is making peace in the Middle East.

Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at April 02, 2014 09:59 AM (4CVLy)

143 Hey, you know who was a big fan of torture?


Che Guevara.


Why, you'd think these leftist asshats would be   GRATEFUL    to see their   beloved martyr's    hobbies being   maintained in the modern age.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 09:59 AM (4df7R)

144 Close Gitmo stop sending my tax money to feed,clothe and provide recreational materials for these scum of the earth. Then after it's closed send them to me I need target practice have lots of rural land and plenty of lime. Yeah I am as caring as my nic shows.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at April 02, 2014 09:59 AM (GKF3X)

145 he's in Michigan pimping his whim to raise the Minimum Wage.
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 01:49 PM (5Kf7w)
What's he waiting for? Is his pen out of ink?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 02, 2014 09:59 AM (/Nxsb)

146 Torquewrench I think every serving officer in the United States Army would find your solution a disgrace to our flag, our uniform and our values. That's why I'd have South Koreans assigned as JAGs at the battalion level to process such prisoners, with South Korean MPs as their security detail. And supervision of that crew would be outsourced to CIA.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 02, 2014 09:59 AM (5xmd7)

147 And fuck the leakers. They should be water-boarded and subjected to long hours of looped Obama speeches.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 02, 2014 10:00 AM (GGCsk)

148 136 Don't misattribute responsibility by blaming the tool. Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 01:54 PM (x3YFz) That's what I was trying to accomplish with my last paragraph. I don't mind droning jihadis, but we need to be careful to make sure it's only bad guys that are being killed. Which Obama didn't really care about judging from the statement Carney (?) made that a few people cited in this thread. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 01:57 PM (r+7wo) Sorry girl. I must have misread. You know I think you're the awesome.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 10:00 AM (x3YFz)

149 Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 01:57 PM (x3YFz) LOL, I was referring to Nigeria, not the US. Btw, I don't believe POTUS is a Muslim. He'd have to believe in a power higher than himself for that to be true. But he is certainly a Muslim sympathizer, being a leftist and all.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 10:00 AM (r+7wo)

150 PS - gentle, kind, intellectual "liberals" really do think America is awful and failed and has to go. And some of them have worked their entire lives to ensure this is so, and the irony escapes them entirely.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 02, 2014 10:01 AM (qyfb5)

151 When I'm president ( read King) I'm putting Tom Kratman in charge of all jihadi interrogations .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 02, 2014 10:01 AM (whqez)

152 Crowd-source the Gosnell movie?

Posted by: Life Lover at April 02, 2014 10:01 AM (1/4XQ)

153 As far as the enhancer interrogation techniques for known terrorists go, I'll paraphrase Stacey McCain: "Dunk 'em again!"

Posted by: physics geek at April 02, 2014 10:01 AM (MT22W)

154 No worries, tangonine.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 10:02 AM (r+7wo)

155 Obama kills US citizens overseas with drones with no opprobrium.

The proper response to this is FUCK YOU LEFTOID SHITBAG and moveon.org.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 02, 2014 10:02 AM (TE35l)

156 Chique d'frique is right.  As I pointed out earlier up thread.

The Global Left and its subset the US Democrat Party was up in arms screaming when an Iraqi wedding party out in the middle of the desert got bombed.  Killing many.

But this President orders a drone strike on a cafe, a cafe is normally situated where there is traffic and population, based on shaky intelligence.  So the son of a terrorist, who apparently was innocent, along with 19 by-standers got blown into the afterlife.  But the supporters of this President are well nigh mute in their outrage.  Why?  Because it was THEM deciding who was going to live or die.  Did not matter if they killed the wrong people, they still got to kill without getting their soft hands dirty.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 10:03 AM (7oL8c)

157 Btw, I don't believe POTUS is a Muslim. He'd have to believe in a power higher than himself for that to be true. But he is certainly a Muslim sympathizer, being a leftist and all.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 02:00 PM (r+7wo)



Ayuh.   The only religion    of    which Obammy is a    member   is the   High and Exalted Church of the Mocha Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 10:03 AM (4df7R)

158 Oh FFS, they were claiming that putting bugs on detainee's shoulders was torture. War is an ugly business, and I don't care what anyone says, if your enemy is chopping off heads and targeting civilian populations, the I want our side to torture the f#ck out of them. I'm sorry I'm not sorry...oh wait, f#ck'em! I guess any means necessary refers to our own countrymen.

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 02, 2014 10:03 AM (xtby2)

159 This thread needs some "Poseidon Rex" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6ZeOdY5ti8 Just saying'. You can trawl with jihadis just like you were trawling for marlins.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 02, 2014 10:04 AM (0cMkb)

160

"I looooove yeeeew,
Yeeeeew looooooooove meeeeee,
Weeeeeee're a hapyyyyyyyyyy faaaaaaamiiiiiiiiiiileeeeeeeee"

 

=============

 

Start me up, I'll never stop.

Posted by: that 70s earworm at April 02, 2014 10:04 AM (3ZtZW)

161 So, just to be clear -- US still only water-boarded 3 Islamic terrorists, right?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 10:04 AM (ZPrif)

162 Seriously, my Give-A-Shit meter for jihadi terrorists is registering a couple of picofuckits and is dropping like a stone.

Posted by: physics geek at April 02, 2014 10:04 AM (MT22W)

163 obama wants to raise the minimum wage just like he wants to ban all guns. Poverty is a great political. People getting paid a pittance is a great political issue. People getting shot is a great political issue. Great political issues, when used shrewdly, yield great power.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 10:04 AM (5Kf7w)

164 I'm sure if we wait long enough,  we will have a photo op of a crowd of lefties protesting about this  report and at least a half dozen of them will be wearing Che Guevara T-shirts.

Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2014 10:04 AM (m2CN7)

165 "Oh FFS, they were claiming that putting bugs on detainee's shoulders was torture."

I vas only following orders.

Posted by: Face Sized Spider at April 02, 2014 10:05 AM (noWW6)

166 I survived September 11th and can therefore with good conscience say I wish they would have started water-boarding people prior to 2001. If it spares another generation a repeat or worse- I am all for it.

Unleash the dogs of war. We didn't start this fight.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 02, 2014 10:05 AM (GGCsk)

167 We will fight to death for goat ass infidel.

Posted by: Dirka Dirka at April 02, 2014 10:05 AM (Aif/5)

168 "What needs to be known is that these activities did not yield good and actionable and timely intelligence."

Judging by the way Benghazi was handled,  I'm not surprised.

Posted by: Dang at April 02, 2014 10:05 AM (MNq6o)

169 Why? Because it was THEM deciding who was going to live or die. Did not matter if they killed the wrong people, they still got to kill without getting their soft hands dirty. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 02:03 PM (7oL8c) Looking back over the last two and a half centuries, it *does* seem to be their favorite game. Well, some hands dirtier than others.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 02, 2014 10:06 AM (qyfb5)

170 This is a Big Fn Deal. Engadget ‏@engadget Windows will be free on phones, small tablets and the Internet of Things http://engt.co/1lCjqYp

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 10:06 AM (ZPrif)

171 157 Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 02:03 PM (7oL8c)

They are open about it, "well it's ok I trust Obama..."

Their position is basically they get a "real Presidency" and dissent is patriotic when we're in.

Fuck 'em I've reached my breaking point I tolerated this shit under Clinton "for the good of the troops"...

here's the score we're about to find out as a nation what happens when it is ALWAYS one hand clapping b/c I am done letting them get double standards.

Obama is a war criminal.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 02, 2014 10:06 AM (TE35l)

172 >>"What needs to be known is that these activities did not yield good and actionable and timely intelligence."<<

Then we should have moved to electric shock.

Anyway. That's total bullshit.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 02, 2014 10:07 AM (GGCsk)

173 "What needs to be known is that these activities did not yield good and actionable and timely intelligence."



And clearly the broad-brush NSA collection of "meta data" doesn't yield good, actionable or timely intelligence, either, since, y'know,   fucking    Benghazi and the Boston Marathon Bombing.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 10:07 AM (4df7R)

174
And clearly the broad-brush NSA collection of "meta data" doesn't yield good, actionable or timely intelligence, either, since, y'know, fucking Benghazi and the Boston Marathon Bombing.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 02, 2014 02:07 PM (4df7R)



Both of    which, by the way,   our intelligence community had    prior   knowledge.     If they can't even recognize something as obvious as,  "Hey, all these al Qaeda terrorists in Libya might want to pull some shit on 9/11"    and    "Hey, the Russians are telling us to keep our eyes on these two brothers in Massachusetts," then why the hell should I believe that they would recognize   useful,  actionable or timely intelligence when it was spat into their faces by an angry jihadi?   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 02, 2014 10:10 AM (4df7R)

175 I don't often suggest going to war with my enemies, but when I do I yodel.

Posted by: The Yodeling Smith at April 02, 2014 10:10 AM (mKHS6)

176 Regarding Ogabe's religion, quoting The Vatican's chief justice, Cardinal Raymond Burke: “It is true that the policies of the president of the United States have become progressively more hostile toward Christian civilization. He appears to be a totally secularized man who aggressively promotes anti-life and anti-family policies,”.... http://preview.tinyurl.com/n96rndn Totally secularized. Doofus:"Izzat s'posed to be an insult?" Moi: "I can think of none worse."

Posted by: le meilleur mot at April 02, 2014 10:10 AM (1/4XQ)

177 Ayuh. The only religion of which Obammy is a member is the High and Exalted Church of the Mocha Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 02, 2014 02:03 PM (4df7R) Aye. And (holy cow, please let not this become another Bible thread, it's exhausting) didn't Stan (everyone calls him Satan, but Stan sort of trivializes him, no offense to anyone named Stan) wasn't he all "me! me! me!" and got thrown out of the bighouse because he was a selfish jerk? Same thing here.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 10:10 AM (x3YFz)

178 What is the difference between a car bomb taking out a cafe or a Hellfire missile?

To the families of the murdered collateral damage, not one damn bit of difference.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 10:10 AM (7oL8c)

179 "And clearly the broad-brush NSA collection of 'meta data' doesn't yield good, actionable or timely intelligence, either, since, y'know, fucking Benghazi and the Boston Marathon Bombing."

The intel community like to say that their failures are public knowledge but their successes are never known.

However, I really do seriously wonder how many actual successes all of this intrusive-intercept business have produced. I would bet that it's not too many.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2014 10:12 AM (noWW6)

180 Nothing will come of this. The very second that Obama had Holder confirmed he hit the ground and had teams of people trying to figure out how to charge all the CIA people and their civilian (Bush) overseers with torture and murder. Even Holder's DoJ couldn't make the case. This is desperation by the Left. Look for massive vote fraud next. Like nothing ever seen before in this Country.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 02, 2014 10:12 AM (ZOFdB)

181 >>Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the committee’s chairwoman, has called “un-American and brutal.”<<

Brutal is looking at her for too long.

Water-boarding is like an opera

Posted by: Marcus T, Virgo. Loves long walks on the beach, water-boarding and linked ammunition at April 02, 2014 10:12 AM (GGCsk)

182 123 I think Nigeria once asked Interpol to arrest Dick Cheney as a war criminal.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 01:52 PM (7oL8c)


Then Cheney told them that they should come talk to his warcock about it and that was that.

Posted by: joncelli at April 02, 2014 10:12 AM (RD7QR)

183 Re: Internet of Things - my car and my washing machine are not going to have publicly accessible net presence. Get over it. Some ideas are just stupid, no matter how many hipsters and salesmen want them. Like the "cloud" is not new, people have been trying to replace PCs with dumb terminals and centralize storage since the PC was invented.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 02, 2014 10:12 AM (qyfb5)

184 "And clearly the broad-brush NSA collection of "meta data" doesn't yield good, actionable or timely intelligence, either, since, y'know, fucking Benghazi and the Boston Marathon Bombing."

Interesting that as I type these words, there is a not small possibility that the NSA is reading them.

Yet the Boston Bombing did in fact occur.
Despite dire and specific warnings from at least one other nation directly to our government.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 02, 2014 10:12 AM (si68n)

185 The only thing worse than reading this $h!t is watching the Benghazi hearings. Catherine Heritage of Fox(totally hawt!), not only summed up the pertinent information of the incident, but posed several questions needing answers in less than 3 f#cking minutes. I watched two hours of the hearings, and other than Thornberry, no one got to the f#cuking point.

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 02, 2014 10:12 AM (xtby2)

186 Thanks twin. You are always so eloquent. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 02, 2014 01:58 PM (r+7wo) So your real first name is Eliza?

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 10:13 AM (o3MSL)

187 Rush: Is Pelosi really this dumb, or is it an act tailored to low-information voters?

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 10:13 AM (5Kf7w)

188 >>However, I really do seriously wonder how many actual successes all of this intrusive-intercept business have produced. I would bet that it's not too many.<<

It only takes one September 11th to ruin your day. Just sayin.

Posted by: Marcus T, Virgo. Loves long walks on the beach, water-boarding and linked ammunition at April 02, 2014 10:13 AM (GGCsk)

189 "(everyone calls him Satan, but Stan sort of trivializes him, no offense to anyone named Stan)"

Not to be confused with me.

Posted by: Phil, Prince Of Insufficient Light at April 02, 2014 10:13 AM (noWW6)

190 The main news was that MS is now pricing Windows at $0 to compete with Android on phones and tablets. The people who said this was inevitable and MS should have done this years ago appear to have been correct.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 10:14 AM (ZPrif)

191 Go ahead and close Gitmo then, Democrats. That's the only response any GOPer should give to these Booooosh Is Evil crap.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at April 02, 2014 10:14 AM (zDsvJ)

192 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 02:10 PM (7oL8c)

Hellfires are *supposed* to be radically different.

The line is somewhat blurred now, and that upsets me greatly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 02, 2014 10:15 AM (QFxY5)

193 Yeah Merovign, who wants a 'net connected 'fridge that has just been hacked by the 16yr old script kiddy down the street.  So he orders to be delivered via your Amazon Prime service, that is stored on your 'fridge, 80 kegs of PBR to be delivered to you.  Because you won't let your daughter date him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 10:15 AM (7oL8c)

194 Rush: Is Pelosi really this dumb, or is it an act tailored to low-information voters? Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 02, 2014 10:15 AM (ix+5k)

195 Cut to the chase: the "treatment" these captives received, however characterized, was justified on instrumental grounds that the information might save lives on our side. Tell those jihadis that the beatings will continue until the information improves. Bring some of those death panel people in on it for some exotic pharmaceutical cocktails. "Needlemarks?!? Dood! He was flippin' dehydrated!""

Posted by: le meilleur mot at April 02, 2014 10:15 AM (1/4XQ)

196

If the CIA had used union goons to interrogate, you'd be damn sure there'd be no chance this report would ever see the light of day.

Posted by: MacGruber at April 02, 2014 10:15 AM (xvtYZ)

197 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 02, 2014 02:12 PM (qyfb5) Seem to remember a 'suppressed' report from the old Bell Labs that advocated for dumb but highly efficient data transport networks with all the smarts provided by (and customized for) each end user as being the best approach.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 10:16 AM (o3MSL)

198 The Vatican's chief justice, Cardinal Raymond Burke is correct.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 02, 2014 10:16 AM (XyM/Y)

199 We're losing to these people!

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 10:16 AM (5Kf7w)

200 Exactly CBD, the way the Hellfire missiles are being used is not how the tactic was originally envisioned.  Now they are akin to Zeus' lightning bolts but unleashed at the whim of a far more capricious godling than Zeus ever way.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 10:17 AM (7oL8c)

201 "Rush: Is Pelosi really this dumb, or is it an act tailored to low-information voters?"

Pelosi really is that dumb.

She demonstrates what happens when you have intergenerational dynastic inbreeding of politicians, and then install them in a district where the locals think that "voting" consists of walking into a booth and pulling the lever for everything with a (D) beside the name.

Around here you could have run the late Jeffrey Dahmer and as long as he was an identified Democrat, the straight-ticket political-machine voters would have assured him a place in office.

So under those circumstances, no, Pelosi doesn't need any brains at all.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2014 10:17 AM (noWW6)

202 Actually, a fairly large and growing # of people seem to want to connect everything in their life to the internet. I don't. Doesn't mean the market isn't sizable and growing. Home automation is a growing biz. Internet-connected TVs are selling well. This is a niche market for rich geeks for now. Might stay that way. Might not. We'll see.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 10:18 AM (ZPrif)

203 Rush just played a 15-second audio clip of Pelosi that the average Dumb person could understand. And then Rush spent over 5 minutes explaining how wrong she is. Who do you think wins the day, Pelosi or Rush?

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 10:19 AM (5Kf7w)

204 #75

Funny thing is, that really is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 02, 2014 10:19 AM (bPxS6)

205 The CIA admits the death of the Afghan captive, due to hypothermia, but says it was an accident. One of McClatchy's leakers disputes that, calling it either "willful negligence or even negligent homicide." Oh shit. Who left the taliban outside again? Better get the hair dryer.

Posted by: Harsh Interrogator No. 8 at April 02, 2014 10:19 AM (8ZskC)

206 182 >>Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the committee’s chairwoman, has called “un-American and brutal.”<< Brutal is looking at her for too long. Water-boarding is like an opera Posted by: Marcus T, Virgo. Loves long walks on the beach, water-boarding and linked ammunition at April 02, 2014 02:12 PM (GGCsk) She's unamerican. That woman needs to be taken on an unfortunate fishing trip.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 10:20 AM (x3YFz)

207

good grief. the dems really want to push forward with this.

 

 

Posted by: rich@gmu at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (5W6e+)

208 This is desperation by the Left. Look for massive vote fraud next. Like nothing ever seen before in this Country.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 02, 2014 02:12 PM (ZOFdB)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

And let no one say, "it can't get any worse".    Dear Leader and the dems have shit planned that'll rip this country apart far more than it is right now.

 

They've got the power now.  They aren't going to let it go peacefully.

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (MzhHs)

209 I can see it now in the CIA Book on How to Interrogate Taliban

#616 Taliban are not like cats, they can't be left out at night.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (7oL8c)

210 Seem to remember a 'suppressed' report from the old Bell Labs that advocated for dumb but highly efficient data transport networks with all the smarts provided by (and customized for) each end user as being the best approach. Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 02:16 PM (o3MSL) I think the best approach is my car and washing machine are not going to be on the network. The only reason they *have* to be there is so someone else can gather information or control something without my permission. How about "no." Is "no" okay? 'Cause I'm going with "no."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (qyfb5)

211 You know, Lincoln was a Republican.  Perhaps the Dems could rehash the Federal war crimes during the War of Northern Aggression.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (bbivj)

212 If they were torturing gun owners I don't think id have a problem with it.

Posted by: Senator Feinstein at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (Aif/5)

213 Regarding Ogabe's religion, ... Posted by: le meilleur mot To paraphrase an interview I saw with his spiritual leader of 20+ years: The Rev Wright, in one of his books said something to the effect that Obama learned to "find a place" for Jesus in his religion or worldview. When pressed by a reporter if Obama ever considered himself a Muslim, the Rev smiled and repeated that Obama "found a way for Jesus" to fit in with his religion or worldview. I paraphrase but that is how the interview went. Wright danced around the issue. Muslims have a place for Jesus to "fit in" within Islam as a prophet. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (GHrAo)

214 If the CIA had used union goons to interrogate, you'd be damn sure there'd be no chance this report would ever see the light of day.

Unions? Were you around during the Clinton administration? Nothing was found out until the Special Prosecutor's time was up! Every.Single.Time.

Look at the current administration. Nothing will be found out until the zipster is out of office. Guaranteed!

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 02, 2014 10:21 AM (xtby2)

215 206 The CIA admits the death of the Afghan captive, due to hypothermia, but says it was an accident. One of McClatchy's leakers disputes that, calling it either "willful negligence or even negligent homicide." Oh shit. Who left the taliban outside again? Better get the hair dryer. Posted by: Harsh Interrogator No. 8 at April 02, 2014 02:19 PM (8ZskC) ...and this is why you do field interrogations and don't take prisoners.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 10:22 AM (x3YFz)

216 It is true that the policies of the president of the United States have become progressively more hostile toward Christian civilization. He appears to be a totally secularized man who aggressively promotes anti-life and anti-family policies Nailed it.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 02, 2014 10:22 AM (mx5oN)

217 How about "no." Is "no" okay? 'Cause I'm going with "no." Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 02, 2014 02:21 PM (qyfb5) It's cute that you think you will have a choice!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 10:22 AM (o3MSL)

218 ...and this is why you do field interrogations and don't take prisoners. Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 02:22 PM (x3YFz) The old rules are always the best!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 10:23 AM (o3MSL)

219 212 You know, Lincoln was a Republican. Perhaps the Dems could rehash the Federal war crimes during the War of Northern Aggression.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at April 02, 2014 02:21 PM (bbivj)


So what, Lincoln ordered drone strikes on Richmond?

Posted by: joncelli at April 02, 2014 10:23 AM (RD7QR)

220 If my car has a wireless 'net connection, I am going to find the fuse or wire connector that will physically disable it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 10:23 AM (7oL8c)

221 Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 02, 2014 10:23 AM (ix+5k)

222 I demand that Nigeria change its rayciss name, stat.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 02, 2014 10:23 AM (7ObY1)

223 If internet-accessible AC and water heaters become "a thing," it will be because of government. Who, by the way, do *not* want this access to guarantee your privacy and autonomy. Also, did someone say "look for massive voter fraud *next*"? Oh, we're *so* far down that road...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 02, 2014 10:24 AM (qyfb5)

224 ...and this is why you do field interrogations and don't take prisoners.

Allen West had to resign because of this. Although, he made the mistake of letting the prisoner live. But some Bradley Manning-type probably would have ratted him out if he did.

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 02, 2014 10:25 AM (xtby2)

225 Who do you think wins the day, Pelosi or Rush?

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 02, 2014 02:19 PM (5Kf7w)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

I like the track that Rush is on right now.  He IS explaining the falsehoods of the leftist mindset to the LIV, because as dumb as they are, even they know something is terribly wrong.  Rush is explaining why.

 

For us,  it sounds boring and tedious, but it's  new information to the frustrated LIV tuning in for the first time.

 

His children's books  on American history  are another brilliant idea. 

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2014 10:26 AM (MzhHs)

226 221 If my car has a wireless 'net connection, I am going to find the fuse or wire connector that will physically disable it. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 02, 2014 02:23 PM (7oL8c) paranoia will serve you well, young padawan.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 10:26 AM (x3YFz)

227 >>>55 BTW - picking a fight with the CIA is never a good idea, not if you have secrets you would like to stay secret. And this Administration and this Senate have more skeletons than than a cemetary.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at April 02, 2014 01:38 PM (hLRSq)<<<

 

been wondering how much help the irs and nsa provided to dems in 2012.  guess we just might find out.

Posted by: rich@gmu at April 02, 2014 10:26 AM (5W6e+)

228 This is a dirty trick because it will be difficult, if not impossible for folks to refute it without violating the law and revealing classified information. Only time will tell if people leak and if the media reports it. But this also shows that the democrats must be aware that they have a base problem. Anytime they change the subject to the previous administration, that is a pretty good bet.

Posted by: Czar Peter at April 02, 2014 10:27 AM (yM2N8)

229 LIVs and Leftists won't ever hear Rush. Rush is explaining things to his millions of listeners -- so they can explain things to the LIVs and Leftists in their circle of friends, families, and co-workers. Rush knows his market well.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 10:28 AM (ZPrif)

230 Anyone catching the debate in UK between Nigel Farar and Nick Clegg? Way interesting to listen to euro side ofthings rdgarding immigration and whether it's good for UK or not to be in EU. Its so disgusting,sickening, and enraging to hear the shit the leftist commie fucks in congress are pulling.

Posted by: fastfreefall at April 02, 2014 10:28 AM (+2N4E)

231

and isn't the rule it is better to have them in the tent pissing out, then outside the tent pissing in ...

 

pretty sure DiFi and hubby has some dirty deals they wouldn't want public.

 

Posted by: rich@gmu at April 02, 2014 10:31 AM (5W6e+)

232 Net-connected cars are a huge thing that consumers are demanding. Audi launched a big partnership with Google this year. All the big car companies are doing the Connected Car thing. Not everybody wants it, of course. But many do. Especially the rich geeks and the younger generation.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 02, 2014 10:32 AM (ZPrif)

233 Nick Clegg's great aunt was an agent with the Cheka/GRU. No doubt she was responsible for hundreds of people being put to death. Clegg still admires her. Puke.

Posted by: Fistin Pug at April 02, 2014 10:32 AM (vFh9Q)

234 Dead thread extension of thoughts mentioned above - what if this is a pre-emptive strike on the CIA from the administration?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 02, 2014 10:33 AM (qyfb5)

235 Isn't this the kind of thing we pay the CIA for?

Posted by: Beef at April 02, 2014 10:33 AM (XERws)

236

"What is the difference between ace and an Israeli tank?

one spends all day and all night defending Israel, the other gets stuck in the mud on Fox TV."

 

Still not seeing the difference.

Could you try another example Hadji?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at April 02, 2014 10:33 AM (hLRSq)

237 226 ...and this is why you do field interrogations and don't take prisoners. Allen West had to resign because of this. Although, he made the mistake of letting the prisoner live. But some Bradley Manning-type probably would have ratted him out if he did. Posted by: Travis McGee at April 02, 2014 02:25 PM (xtby2) When our boys took Bagrahm air field, the Marine general said outright: "we don't have room." "Sir, we have xx prisoners." "We don't have room." (any lefties reading this are going to go apeshit) Never happened, I made it all up. Just a story.

Posted by: tangonine at April 02, 2014 10:33 AM (x3YFz)

238 But IRS emails about targeting citizens for political beliefs are classified beyond belief.

Posted by: ejo at April 02, 2014 10:34 AM (GXvSO)

239

Posted by: Marcus T, Virgo. Loves long walks on the beach, water-boarding and linked ammunition at April 02, 2014 02:13 PM (GGCsk)

 

all true but the issue is one of judgment and with political correctness run wild, everyone has to be suspected.

 

really gramdma a threat and has to be searched?

Posted by: rich@gmu at April 02, 2014 10:36 AM (5W6e+)

240 What does Ace and an Israeli tank have in common? Sexy girls with guns crawl all over them.

Posted by: Fistin Pug at April 02, 2014 10:50 AM (vFh9Q)

241 Since the end of World War II, has there ever been a foe of the United States with whom the Democrats haven't provided aid and comfort, and characterized as victims?

I can't think of any.

Posted by: Mike at April 02, 2014 10:54 AM (Rk8LS)

242 "Let's shine a light on these abuses by the CIA!  But let's ignore all that talk about the IRS."

--Democrats

Posted by: Null at April 02, 2014 10:55 AM (j8Jx5)

243 So, what you are telling me is that the CIA killed fewer terrorists than GM did American citizens?


Posted by: West at April 02, 2014 10:55 AM (1Rgee)

244 as far as i know Obama kept the extraordinary rendition capabilty  just send em somewhere else to get information

Renditions continue under Obama, despite due-process concerns By Craig whitlock WP, Published: January 1, 2013

Posted by: willow at April 02, 2014 11:04 AM (nqBYe)

245 anyway i find it interesting drones killings of american citizens Without due process are OKey Dokey with this team of malignant liars. Yet  ..

whatever .

Posted by: willow at April 02, 2014 11:05 AM (nqBYe)

246 really gramdma a threat and has to be searched? Posted by: rich@gmu at April 02, 2014 02:36 PM (5W6e+) Yes, unless she's wearing a burkha and has no photo ID.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 11:13 AM (o3MSL)

247 So the whole Democrat 2014 campaign will be "Blame Bush"? Again?!? Are they serious? How about "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too?"... that hasn't been used for a while. Besides, Bush's popularity is well above our "You can keep your plan / you can keep your doctor / $12,000 average savings" leader.

Posted by: theCork at April 02, 2014 11:32 AM (hbAdE)

248 Yes, unless she's wearing a burkha and has no photo ID. Posted by: Hrothgar at April 02, 2014 03:13 PM (o3MSL) And is sporting a full beard under the burkha. And has a history of "workplace violence".

Posted by: theCork at April 02, 2014 11:34 AM (hbAdE)

249 Apparently now it's OK to drone a cafe, killing 19 people sitting around without eyes on the target.

Yes it is.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 02, 2014 11:36 AM (DL2i+)

250 Somebody ought to start leaking the situations where aggressive interrogation yielded results that stop attacks and saved lives.

Posted by: scr_north at April 02, 2014 11:48 AM (6CWKl)

251 So the Dems want to run on the success of Zerocare and 8 year-old "torture" of Jihadis?


Good luck.

Posted by: Hollowhead at April 02, 2014 12:15 PM (YmPwQ)

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