October 02, 2013
— Ace The "barricade" at the WWI memorial is just a single six-foot length of fence, barricading nothing at all, and a sign:
Now let's look at the WWII memorial.
Wow, it's almost like Fort Knox, if Fort Knox is where we guarded our precious stores of grass and concrete.
What's the difference?
Simple, really: There are Honor Flights of vets scheduled to see the latter but not the former.
Thus this isn't about "maintenance" or "saving money" or CPR, as the Park Service claimed yesterday. (That they had staff trained in CPR administration, who were not actually at the site, but I guess theoretically if someone stopped breathing they could take a cab and get there in 20 minutes or something.)
This is about the fact that a lot of people are coming to see the WWII Memorial, and the Administration wishes to hurt them.
Very few people are coming to see the WWI Memorial (sadly), and thus suddenly these worries about "CPR" and "maintenance" (of concrete) and "funding" no longer apply.
By the way, let's look at the funding for the WWII Memorial.
The National World War II Memorial was funded almost entirely by private contributions, as specified in Public Law 103-32. The campaign received more than $197 million in cash and pledges. Support came from hundreds of thousands of individual Americans, hundreds of corporations and foundations, veterans groups, dozens of civic, fraternal and professional organizations, states and one territory, and students in 1,200 schools across the country.Donated and pledged funds were used to cover the total project costs of approximately $182 million. These costs include site selection and design, construction and sculpture, a National Park Service maintenance fee required by the Commemorative Works Act, groundbreaking and dedication ceremonies, fund raising, and the 11-year administrative costs of the project from its inception in 1993 through completion in 2004.
Remaining funds are held on deposit with the U.S. Treasury in a National WWII Memorial Trust Fund. The funds will be used by the American Battle Monuments Commission solely to benefit the World War II Memorial.
Hey Barack Obama -- you didn't fucking build that. Someone else did, and someone else is paying for its upkeep.
Via @mccormackjohn and @lochnar
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Posted by: wheatie at October 02, 2013 08:45 AM (vqZWI)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 08:46 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 02, 2013 08:46 AM (+lsX1)
My Comment from the last thread that needs reiterated and focused on by Ace
"Wait a minute. What kind of First Amendment activity might be exempted and allowed to go on.... hell even encouraged?
The sons of bitches wanted to close the memorials- but SPECIFICALLY EXPEMT AND ALLOW people to gather around them and protest the evil republicans in a super photo op. That's the only reason a first amendment exception could be in there.
Bastards. "
Posted by: Jollyroger at October 02, 2013 08:47 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: getonwithit at October 02, 2013 08:47 AM (MbeEN)
The Forbidden City of the God-King.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 02, 2013 08:48 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Joe at October 02, 2013 08:48 AM (7pOq5)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 08:48 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 08:48 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 08:48 AM (yETln)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 08:48 AM (gA69l)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 08:48 AM (gA69l)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 08:49 AM (IXrOn)
Wait until Obama figures out he can save money on nuclear weapon fail safes and cooling systems at the nuclear reactors. Hydraulic fluid in fighters is expensive I bet.
Posted by: Beagle at October 02, 2013 08:49 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (gA69l)
"Dog One is open!"
"We're in business!!!"
Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 08:49 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: madamemayhem at October 02, 2013 08:49 AM (S2RnE)
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at October 02, 2013 08:49 AM (mPKiR)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 02, 2013 08:49 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2013 08:49 AM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 02, 2013 08:50 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 08:50 AM (IXrOn)
Our government is spending extra money in order to try and hurt us.
Think about that for a minute.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 08:50 AM (QA8q2)
Don't forget that there was an order from the OMB to close this park, according to somebody on Tweeter, Steve Hayes, IIRC.
Sounds about right: TFG closes this park, but only for certain people, which is pretty illegal.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 02, 2013 08:50 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (DHQv9)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Low Information Republican Squish at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (RFeQD)
Obama sends more reinforcements to WWII Memorial than to Benghazi.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (EGPJQ)
This is a story that could break Obama.
Except it will never see the light of day.
Posted by: rd at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (D+lxs)
And this.
Also fuck Tom Hanks with a syphilitic unicorn.
Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (KXm42)
"We're in business!!!"
Would've been great if one of the vets brought a bangalore.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (gA69l)
Posted by: yakov at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (9bLam)
@31
Exactly. As I said above, even the signs on the barricades acknowledge the monuments are available to protesters (US govt union workers anyone) and exclude anyone else.
Posted by: Jollyroger at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (t06LC)
Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (Hx5uv)
@woodruffbets Breaching the barrier to the Vietnam memorial pic.twitter.com/jmR9BaH9LW
@woodruffbets The Vietnam wall barrier is less than compelling pic.twitter.com/CVFZ3DQ8a9
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 02, 2013 08:51 AM (YjDyJ)
They should make it an all-memorial monument tour. Let's see just how many barriacdes they can set up.
Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Buck An Ear at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (zCDcA)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (QA8q2)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (g1DWB)
Tomorrow I shall direct the National Park Service and the Army Corps of Engineers to cover the Grand Canyon with a giant tarpaulin.
If only House Republicans authorized the spending I requested, this extraordinary and expensive measure wouldn't be necessary.
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 08:52 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (SO2Q8)
So none of those three "men" pictured had the stones to say, "Fuck, no, I'm not closing off the Memorial! It's fucking public land!" but instead just clicked their heels to follow orders?
Get the vets out of DC and nuke the site from orbit.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: #OccupyResoluteDesk at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (4lqiH)
Posted by: Every Lefty Buttrag that Blamed Bush for not Sending in Troops for Katrina Aid at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (yETln)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (RFeQD)
Definitely.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (B/VB5)
What a petty, petulant little bitch he is.
The next time a lib tells me how Barry and Mooch support the military and their families, I'm going to tell that person to kindly fuck themselves with a barbed-wire-wrapped rotten pineapple.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (lVPtV)
Reply 1: Exactly.
Reply 2: Exactly.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:49 PM (IXrOn)
Thread winner.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (gA69l)
Alinsky 101 -- overwhelm the system
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (9MLX+)
Posted by: L, elle at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (0PiQ4)
Wonder why California is broke and the LA Unified School District struggles at its core mission of educating children? The sad saga of the iPad project demonstrates at least some of the issues. At an estimated cost of $1 billion, the LAUSD launched an effort to hand out “borrowed” iPads to its students in order to minimize textbook and material costs, but despite all of the money spent, their security program on the devices lasted hours in the hands of the students. Now the district will try to confiscate all of the iPads, throwing in the towel on the massive investment after just a few weeks:
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 08:53 AM (pgFQF)
Posted by: ryukyu at October 02, 2013 08:54 AM (C6XFd)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 08:54 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 02, 2013 08:54 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 02, 2013 08:54 AM (gfQ4L)
WWII veterans but not Vietnam War veterans?
WWII veterans but not Desert Storm veterans?
WWII veterans but not Operation Iraqi Freedom veterans?
Just how specific are Barry's orders?
Posted by: mrp at October 02, 2013 08:54 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 08:55 AM (/Crba)
Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90
The cornflakes are in the cupboard and the milk is in the fridge, Mr. President. Try not to burn the place down.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 02, 2013 08:55 AM (hLRSq)
This has probably been mentioned here at the HQ already, but this was Rand Paul's reaction to this story yesterday on "Hannity":
“If Harry Reid and the President want to keep the parks closed— I mean did you read the story today? Some idiot in government sent goons out there to set up barricades, so they couldn’t see the monument. People had to spend hours setting up barricades where there are never barricades to prevent people from seeing the World War II monument because they’re trying to play a charade,” Rand (R-Ky.) said Tuesday on Fox News’s “Hannity.”
Damn right!
And while I got that passage from the Hot Air, it's actually from Politico. You know how I knew it was from a lefty outfit before I even checked? From the very next paragraph.
PaulÂ’s attack[ /b] comes after reports that a group of World War II veterans had to break down barricades to access the National World War II Memorial, one of the sites that was closed due to the government shutdown.
That's right. Pointing out the buffoonery and theatrical tactics of this asshole regime is an ATTACK.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 08:55 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 02, 2013 08:55 AM (1M/xn)
I guess I didn't expect anything better from drones. If you make waves, you lose the cushy.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 08:55 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 08:55 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: C Montgomery Obama at October 02, 2013 08:55 AM (Ec6wH)
Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90
Obama's dog feels 'exposed'; hides under porch.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (VjL9S)
They should protest the barricading of the monument.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: alinsky ette at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (yETln)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 12:53 PM (pgFQF)
Nope. Rotten government toadies, every last one.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: BPSCG at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (YO6qw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 08:56 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: John McCain - D at October 02, 2013 08:57 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 02, 2013 08:57 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Kensington at October 02, 2013 08:57 AM (5rVux)
Except it will never see the light of day.
Posted by: rd at October 02, 2013 12:48 PM (D+lxs)
MFM: It's like you read our mind
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 08:57 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 08:58 AM (IXrOn)
When is a MFM type going to ask the obvious fucking question, why do we have to raise the debt ceiling? Why is debt increasing? Where is the plan to freaking kill the deficit make some money and pay the debt? How is Obobo going to reduce the deficit when he's outspending all previous administrations?
Those are the topics I'd like Clueless Charlie Gibson to tackle (is he even around any more?)
Posted by: Sphynx at October 02, 2013 08:58 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Bill at October 02, 2013 08:58 AM (uvyrw)
Just how specific are Barry's orders?
That's an excellent question. I wonder if any Morons in the DC area who're out and about could tell us?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 02, 2013 08:58 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 08:58 AM (1Jaio)
They want to be petty fascists, let them fund it.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (/Crba)
Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90
Last I checked Obammy, Mooch and Mooch's mooch mother are all adults, and the daughters should be away at school. Why teh fuck do they need to be "taken care of"? Are they incapable of wiping their own asses?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Joe "I seriously believe 2016 is a completely reasonable goal for me" Biden at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (kVw0W)
Who'll walk the dogs? Will TFG still get his fucking waffles? Will the Wednesday night cocktail parties be cancelled?
*rage headache*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (lVPtV)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (yETln)
And while I got that passage from the Hot Air, it's actually from Politico. You know how I knew it was from a lefty outfit before I even checked? From the very next paragraph.
PaulÂ’s attack[ /b] comes afterreportsthat a group of World War II veterans had to break down barricades to access the National World War II Memorial, one of the sites that was closed due to the government shutdown.
That's right. Pointing out the buffoonery and theatrical tactics of this asshole regime is an ATTACK.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 12:55 PM (4df7R)
Take another look at that sentence, MWR. Not only is Paul's comment an "attack," but note how they snidely insinuate that nothing may have happened at all: "after reports that a group of. . ."
Yeah, "reports." Not "after WWII vets had to break down barricades," but "reports."
The next GOP nominee better take a fucking blowtorch to the media.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (zF6Iw)
why wouldn't they once they have control over other things like health care use some of those systems as they Do IRS Epa and other agencies services to pressure the People?
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (bCEmE)
Just another reminder, if my local news is right, the NPS did not close the Arch Grounds, only the Building.
The grounds are a National Park, yet remains "open" (you can't close the outdoors but you know what I mean.)
I kinda understand closing the main entrances to places like Yellowstone because you don't have the staff to clear the roads and such if there's a car breakdown or what have you (assuming the roads aren't actual through roads which is a different question altogether) but this is insanity of the highest order.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 08:59 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (U2UQk)
===============
As long as the royal douche administrator is still on duty -- the FLOTUS with a not-so-fresh feeling won't help things.
Posted by: Kensington at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (5rVux)
Posted by: A Bag of AIDS and Maggot Infected Dog Shit at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (90aTA)
When is a MFM type going to ask the obvious fucking question, why do we have to raise the debt ceiling? Why is debt increasing? Where is the plan to freaking kill the deficit make some money and pay the debt? How is Obobo going to reduce the deficit when he's outspending all previous administrations?
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Another tea bagger launched a racist assault on the president today....
Posted by: MFM at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (pgFQF)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: no good deed at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (k55Fc)
Posted by: jeff at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (MOSsR)
Posted by: jmel at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (t1oUn)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (zF6Iw)
And also scream its for the children.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 02, 2013 12:51 PM (OWjjx)
And, mention how WOMEN are not allowed, either.
Nor, gay, transgendered, black, hispanic...
War on everyone!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 12:58 PM (IXrOn)
Maybe someone told Imam Obama that a Muslim group want to see the memorial
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (1Jaio)
He's either doing fine....
....or getting a nice wooden baton massage.
Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 09:00 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Evil Libertarian at October 02, 2013 09:01 AM (mSg7b)
Because of the shutdown, only 15 people will care for the White House and the Obama family -- down from 90
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Home Alone IV
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 02, 2013 09:01 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 09:01 AM (d0L02)
Posted by: brak at October 02, 2013 09:01 AM (iEoiA)
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 09:01 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: georgeofthedesert at October 02, 2013 09:01 AM (Eq2MX)
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Have you seen the size of Moochelle's ass lately?
I'm not sure that she could reach it, even with a rag-on-a-stick.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (/Crba)
That has to go through a truck wash. Big 18 wheeler truck wash
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2013 09:02 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 09:02 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Colonel Nathan Jessup at October 02, 2013 09:02 AM (/Crba)
Take another look at that sentence, MWR. Not only is Paul's comment an "attack," but note how they snidely insinuate that nothing may have happened at all: "after reports that a group of. . ."
Oh, I noticed that, too. I'm pretty sure I burst a few blood vessels in my eyeballs from the effort of trying to suppress my rage long enough to be able to type.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:02 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 12:59 PM (4df7R)
Somebody has to launder Barry's "small smooth stones", doncha know?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2013 09:02 AM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 09:03 AM (d0L02)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 09:03 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Jet Built Around Cannon at October 02, 2013 09:03 AM (4L2D1)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 09:03 AM (T0NGe)
LET IT FUCKING BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, but this is an all caps fucking moment.
Posted by: prescient11 at October 02, 2013 09:03 AM (tVTLU)
So sad...awwww.
Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 09:03 AM (GQ8sn)
They use a pressure washer with a V-12 engine for Moochelle. Talk about carbon footprints.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 09:04 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 09:04 AM (h1D+w)
75 Cicero Kid, saw a news blurb this morning about park rangers kicking out campers in tents at Dunes Nat'l Park in indiana. Bet you can't get past the gates at the park entrance. Wonder what happens if you go to the State Park right next to it and try to walk down the beach to the Nat'l Park. Barriers on the beach? Ha!
CONFIDENTIAL: WAR PLAN
Marine assault. A beach landing. There is a new moon on 5 October.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 02, 2013 09:04 AM (DHQv9)
but they will keep the ONE that will be looking into Ben Carlson's tax forms?
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 09:04 AM (nqBYe)
They'll be running wild doing all sorts of embarrassing things, like picking up trash, weeding flower beds, some of the more militant will even be showing up with {gasp} lawn mowers and weed whackers.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 02, 2013 09:04 AM (9MLX+)
Median Federal worker salary in 2010: $83,679
Social justice!
Posted by: AmishDude
And that doesn't include the non-monetary benefit of job security of a public sector job.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 02, 2013 09:04 AM (1C7lu)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 02, 2013 09:04 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Fritz at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: brak at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (iEoiA)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (QA8q2)
Posted by: Tantor at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: dogfish at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (bCEmE)
Simply incredible that we have idiots that will even follow such orders.
Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 09:05 AM (IkYZ3)
Posted by: Moccachino Babe at October 02, 2013 09:06 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at October 02, 2013 09:06 AM (6KSs1)
If this ends up being the PR disaster that it looks like it is becoming, will the President throw some park Ranger under the bus himself or will that insufferable fuck Jay Carney do the honors?
Posted by: ed gibbon at October 02, 2013 09:06 AM (4eNxd)
Remaining funds are held on deposit with the U.S. Treasury in a National WWII Memorial Trust Fund
-- And those funds are not there, sorta like the S.S.lock box
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 02, 2013 09:06 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 09:07 AM (/Crba)
He's double-essential, given he's allegedly both the Emperor's consort and his choom dealer.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 09:07 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 09:07 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: Iosif Vissarionovich Stalin at October 02, 2013 09:07 AM (90aTA)
Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (IkYZ3)
Sounds better in the original German.
Posted by: Beagle at October 02, 2013 09:07 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Reggie Love, Obama's Personal Bather at October 02, 2013 09:07 AM (/Crba)
They'll be running wild doing all sorts of embarrassing things, like picking up trash, weeding flower beds, some of the more militant will even be showing up with {gasp} lawn mowers and weed whackers.
Posted by: Purp at October 02, 2013 01:04 PM (9MLX+)
I just blew tea through my nose. Thanks.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2013 09:07 AM (lVPtV)
The IRS said it expected to furlough more than 85,000 employees, leaving only about 9.3 percent of its staff on duty.
Excuse me, but isn't the IR-fucking-S a major player in the infernal 404care rollout? I'd assume that those employees directly attached to 404care would therefore be considered ESSENTIAL for its debut. So just how many fucking useless, waste of space mouthbreathers does the IRS employ?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: redenzo at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (vx61Q)
And obviously these guys don't do "stand down". Hats off.
Posted by: gracepmc at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (rznx3)
I thought Ace destroyed his entire stockpile of F-bombs. Guess he kept a few away from the prying eyes of the UN for things that really pissed him off.
Welcome the fuck home, Ace.
Posted by: Jaws at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (sFQyf)
Posted by: shillelagh at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (hRzu2)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (gfQ4L)
Posted by: mrp at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Buckeye Katie at October 02, 2013 09:08 AM (1M/xn)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (WD0KF)
Posted by: rplat at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (HkjaF)
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (eKnFR)
The 24/7 on-call movie projectionist finally gets a day off?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Mr. Mean at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (Tlix5)
Posted by: Genghis Con at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (qYvEa)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: Yogi Bear at October 02, 2013 09:09 AM (zF6Iw)
Brilliant! We're evil monsters for wanting to secure our border, but TFG has no problem erecting fencing to keep veterans and other Americans from honoring those who served in WWII.
The arrogance and hatred that this administration has are simply mind blowing.
Posted by: Brewer at October 02, 2013 09:10 AM (eV1I0)
Think about the Park Police here. They just knuckled under and obeyed a stupid order.
Now then, someone tell me again that if the CinC decides to order the police to round up his political enemies at gunpoint, the police will refuse to obey?
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 09:10 AM (F3IIA)
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Twitter worthy. Hot damn, I hate this president.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2013 09:10 AM (XB5Ak)
As the event ended, the cop said it was the most respectful protest he'd ever seen. Not a single flower was trampled, and there was ZERO trash on the ground. He said typical protests at the state capitol entailed total replanting of the flower beds and massive trash cleanup. We left the place in better shape than we found it.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 02, 2013 09:10 AM (9MLX+)
Drudge just posted the Omaha Beach photo. Heh.
Posted by: mrp at October 02, 2013 01:08 PM (HjPtV)
The Vets just landed on Obama Bitch.
Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 09:10 AM (m2CN7)
"Obama HAS to cave by Friday or this memorial occupation shit's gonna mushroom over the weekend into tens of thousands."
The story is already being reported (just heard ABC news) and there is no blame put on Obama. Some unknown entity closed the memorial but veterans were allowed to go in, so everyone's happy.
Remember, it never matters what the facts are, only how the story is told.
Posted by: jwest at October 02, 2013 09:10 AM (u2a4R)
Simply incredible that we have idiots that will even follow such orders.
Easy for you to say when it's not your job on the line.
They weren't following an order to open fire on civilians. They were ordered by their employer to put up the fences, so they did. The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 09:10 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:05 PM (/Crba)
*SEETHE*
I saw a coworker in the hall earlier proudly wearing his fucking purple goon shirt. Holy fuck, I almost had a stroke.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:11 AM (4df7R)
They were just following orders.
Got it.
Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 09:11 AM (GQ8sn)
All government systems must pass NIST 800-53 security testing, which include disaster recovery and dealing with capacity issues. Apparently the NIST director testified at some point that HHS was not being granted an exception for the exchanges.
So if the exchanges are crashing like this, it means they failed their security testing, or were never tested. They should not have received their ATO (Authority to Operate).
Now I wouldn't go so far as to say someone broke the law by allowing the sites to go live, but they clearly violated a very strong policy framework that this administration has been shoving down everyone's throats everywhere else.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 02, 2013 09:11 AM (wCEyv)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 02, 2013 09:12 AM (VtjlW)
Preach it, brother.
Posted by: Jaws at October 02, 2013 09:12 AM (4I3Uo)
IRS collecting money, not sending refunds during shutdown...
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 09:12 AM (Hx5uv)
-- And those funds are not there, sorta like the S.S.lock box
Posted by: Velvet Ambition
Big.F'ing.Mistake.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 02, 2013 09:12 AM (1C7lu)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 02, 2013 01:11 PM (wCEyv)
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I think they intended them to fail
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 09:13 AM (QA8q2)
The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.
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I don't recall that defense working at Nuremberg.
Something those vets down in DC today could probably explain to you.
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 09:13 AM (F3IIA)
IRS is shutdown.
Even as a CPA, I wouldn't mind, except they are saying their furlough does not extend the October 15 deadline for filing tax returns on extensions.
In other words, the government is going to monetarily penalize people for their own shutdown.
Posted by: Marybeth at October 02, 2013 09:13 AM (Ks0w4)
Casual Wednesday?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 09:13 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 09:13 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 09:14 AM (QF8uk)
They are fucking with the bull now, I double dog dare them to keep this shit up. They are going to get the fucking horn big time. Picking on old people especially war vets is frowned upon.
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 02, 2013 09:14 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 09:14 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: RWC at October 02, 2013 09:15 AM (fWAjv)
What will happen if it rains? Who will open the umbrella?
Posted by: Brown Line at October 02, 2013 09:15 AM (VrNoa)
http://tinyurl.com/qcyqm4t
Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:09 PM (xWW96)
Great move! I also like the use of the term Barrycade in one of the comments. Have to keep that for future use.
Posted by: tofer732 at October 02, 2013 09:15 AM (z3MpN)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 02, 2013 09:15 AM (bCEmE)
Got it.
Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 09:15 AM (SY2Kh)
Yes, as well as the Korean War Memorial, but neither as heavily as the WWII Memorial.
@woodruffbets The Vietnam wall barrier is less than compelling pic.twitter.com/CVFZ3DQ8a9
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 02, 2013 09:15 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 02, 2013 09:15 AM (/kI1Q)
That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever read.
Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 09:16 AM (IkYZ3)
I emailed links on this matter to my friends this morning under the title
From Omaha to Obama
Posted by: Methos at October 02, 2013 09:16 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2013 09:16 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 09:16 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 01:14 PM (QF8uk)
An illegal order is an illegal order. No one is suggesting the Park Polizei be hanged for putting up the barricades, but demoting or firing them me be appropriate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2013 09:16 AM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 02, 2013 09:16 AM (DmNpO)
What will happen if it rains? Who will open the umbrella?
Posted by: Brown Line
It's cool. It's cool. NOAA turned off the clouds.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 02, 2013 09:17 AM (1C7lu)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2013 09:17 AM (XB5Ak)
Simply incredible that we have idiots that will even follow such orders.
Easy for you to say when it's not your job on the line.
They weren't following an order to open fire on civilians. They were ordered by their employer to put up the fences, so they did. The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)
Now I see why everyone has been busting you balls. Crystal clear.
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 02, 2013 09:17 AM (nTgAI)
Nice catch, ace. Beat everyone to the punch by 24hrs.
Posted by: 13times at October 02, 2013 09:17 AM (fGPLK)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 09:17 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 09:17 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 09:18 AM (QA8q2)
Posted by: Jerry Rivers [/i] at October 02, 2013 09:18 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 02, 2013 09:18 AM (DmNpO)
Something those vets down in DC today could probably explain to you.
OK, you got me.
The murder of six million people is very much on the same moral plane as keeping people out of a park.
I apologize for failing to comprehend the gravity of the situation, imbecile.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 09:18 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2013 09:18 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 09:18 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 09:18 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 09:19 AM (/PCJa)
Got it.
Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)
I hope your boss doesn't ask you for a hummer
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 02, 2013 09:19 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 09:19 AM (/PCJa)
The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs.
You might want to consider rewording that.
Posted by: Yogi Bear at October 02, 2013 09:19 AM (zF6Iw)
I apologize for failing to comprehend the gravity of the situation, imbecile.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)
who went in and fought for those people?
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 09:19 AM (nqBYe)
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Thanks for that image! I was eating lunch!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2013 09:19 AM (BDU/a)
"The blame lies with those who gave the order, not those who are simply doing their jobs."
The ones doing their jobs could say, "We put up the barricades like you wanted. What's that? We only put up one, and it's across the street behind a bush? Gosh, we'll look right into that.
"What's that? We were supposed to tie the barricades together to make them more impassable? Shucks, we just didn't have the zipties to do that, and the CAUTION tape kept breaking.
"What's that? We're not supposed to let anyone near the memorial except on 1st amendment business? Well they all said they were here on first amendment business, so I let them by."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:20 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 09:20 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 09:20 AM (U13jb)
Story out that the NPS is closing the tour bus turnaround (which is National Park Service land) at Mt Vernon (which is privately owned and operated).
Because the middle class!
Next step: the NPS barricades the federally owned parkways around DC (they are NPS land, federally and not state maintained, major commuter routes)?
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 02, 2013 09:20 AM (AVz13)
Posted by: Lauren at October 02, 2013 09:20 AM (ELdpj)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 02, 2013 09:20 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Bill at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (uvyrw)
Posted by: SO ANGRY TRUE CON at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (9bLam)
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (F3IIA)
http://is.gd/07mrpy
***
Yeah, that's what we need especially if it can replace math and logic.
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (Hx5uv)
Yesterday, ace put up a twitter link saying the memorial is open 24 hours a day to visitors, 7 days a week. It doesn't "close".
The fact that none of these Park Police understands their own rules is telling.
Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Kanyay West at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (8CpOJ)
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (n/+FT)
But, that's just me.
Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (IkYZ3)
Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (r2PLg)
They allocated their resources to do the most harm.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 02, 2013 01:16 PM (DmNpO)
Against people who *had* to fight in a war they had *no part* in starting, for the very survival of the free world.
Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 09:21 AM (KXm42)
They were just following orders.
Got it.
Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)
You must have a very interesting job if your employer regularly orders you to close off publicly-owned property to its owners.
Posted by: Yogi Bear at October 02, 2013 09:22 AM (zF6Iw)
I'm very glad to hear that you've led a sufficiently sheltered life such that you've never had to undertake a course of action your employer directed you to take though you disagreed with it.
Congrats, you.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 09:22 AM (SY2Kh)
It's cool. It's cool. NOAA turned off the clouds.
Wait until later this afternoon when they turn the sun off. The wind is already calm...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 02, 2013 09:22 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 09:22 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2013 09:22 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 09:23 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 09:23 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 09:23 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Czar Peter at October 02, 2013 09:23 AM (CXr4y)
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (nqBYe)
Just think...
When the govt takes control of our Healthcare...President Bitchy Breaches can put up barricades at our hospitals too.
Posted by: wheatie at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (vqZWI)
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)
It's on the same continuum, imbecile.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (/kU/5)
Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: @JohnTant at October 02, 2013 09:24 AM (F3IIA)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 02, 2013 09:25 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 09:25 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2013 09:25 AM (zF6Iw)
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Saw pretty much the same thing on CNN. They found a few vets that complained about the shutdown, but not Obama or the GOP. CNN, of course, is slanting this as vets blaming the GOP.
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Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 02, 2013 09:25 AM (YmPwQ)
Andrea Plunkett þ@AndreaPlunkett 1h
We were told that the park rangers "went on break" when the vets arrived. They were thanking vets as we left.
YES! THAT'S what I'm talking about! "Hey, what could we do? We were on break when they came along."
Good for them!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: joeindc44 didn't analyze nuthin, just offered his own anecdotal evidence at October 02, 2013 09:26 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at October 02, 2013 09:26 AM (4p5/2)
Got it.
Just like every other employed person does every workday, yes.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)
Thanks for your support.
Posted by: mortgage ghost signers, the London whale, MS13 soldiers, anyone in Hamas, and of course the SS at October 02, 2013 09:26 AM (hO9ad)
When we have uniformed people in this government willing to do that to old men, then this government is truly lost.
Why not call in sick, or claim your back is hurting for the day. There is not a fucking chance I would work on that barricade.
Fucking brown shirt thugs.
Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 02, 2013 09:26 AM (iuY0Y)
They didn't exactly round up the vets and arrest them when they first broke through the barricades though, did they?
Again- the blame lies 100% with the administration. To put this on Park Police employees distracts from that.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 09:26 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 02, 2013 09:26 AM (YjDyJ)
Wade into the bastards.
Posted by: George S. Patton at October 02, 2013 09:27 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 01:21 PM (n/+FT)
Yes its better than calling a fellow member of the cause a selfish, coward who is doing these protests only for his own personal gain. I'm sure Cruz never the less thanks you for your vigilantism.
Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 09:27 AM (m2CN7)
"The fact that none of these Park Police understands their own rules is telling."
The three uniformed asshats in the pic were exempted from furlough specifically to erect fences to keep the vets out. the order came from the White House.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 02, 2013 09:27 AM (DHQv9)
Uhh.... I thought the reason these places were closed, were no Park Rangers due to shutdown...
so how can there be Park Rangers there to Keep people out?
/facepalm
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 02, 2013 09:27 AM (lZBBB)
Calm the f down, Francis.
Posted by: 13times at October 02, 2013 09:27 AM (fGPLK)
Posted by: boned to the bone at October 02, 2013 09:27 AM (Ph479)
Posted by: LadyS at October 02, 2013 09:28 AM (oTXXN)
Posted by: Arthur Dent at October 02, 2013 09:28 AM (/Crba)
306 @GOPLeader President Obama has just threatened to veto funding bills for NIH kids, veterans, nat'l parks, nat'l guard [and] DC. pic.twitter.com/ofe2ucn7vA
Daddy always beats us when he doesn't get what he wants.
Posted by: wheatie at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (vqZWI)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (/PCJa)
Asked him whether the memorials on the Mall were closed back during the '95 shutdown. Said he wasn't working there then but called over another guy (who I think might've been his superior?) who was. Guy said "hell no they weren't closed! How you gonna secure an open area anyway?" Asked him what he made of that, he laughed and looked at me pointedly and said "draw your own conclusions!"
They all basically took off when the vets showed up. Neat stuff.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: Arthur Dent at October 02, 2013 01:28 PM (/Crba)
Hmm... I wonder if the Vogons know where SMOD's gotten to?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (4df7R)
Is this:
a. tone-deaf stupidity.
or
b. a last fuck you to the "old" americans who should just die off already because they're old and white and not really hip to hope and change?
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A: Yes.
(No, it doesn't make sense. What about Boama and his policies does/)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (BDU/a)
Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (QA8q2)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (/Crba)
YES! THAT'S what I'm talking about! "Hey, what could we do? We were on break when they came along."
Good for them!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:25 PM (4df7R)
Thanks for posting that. atc get her a lemon bar, stat.
Posted by: polynikes at October 02, 2013 09:29 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: unknown at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (UpdGw)
Yep. One day you're putting up some temporary barricades after your boss tells you to, tomorrow you're rounding people up for the gas chamber.
Got it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Hitler's Genital Wart at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (iuY0Y)
Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 01:24 PM (r2PLg)
Yeah let's not be hasty. We have no idea what kinds of games the Park people are playing to avoid following these orders.
Posted by: eleven at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (4p5/2)
Posted by: navybrat at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (IkYZ3)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (/Crba)
Throw a bucket of water on her and she'd LITERALLY melt down. It'd be beautiful.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (4df7R)
@noonanjo: Park Ranger confirms order to shut down #WWIImemorial came from the White House
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (1C7lu)
Andrea Plunkett þ@AndreaPlunkett 1h We were told that the park rangers "went on break" when the vets arrived. They were thanking vets as we left.
Those slackers need to be hanged and then shot!
Posted by: Hollowhead at October 02, 2013 09:30 AM (ggRof)
Come to the Dark Side. We have pie. And a vinyl copy of Selling England By The Pound.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2013 09:31 AM (B/VB5)
*Vets plan to storm Lincoln Memorial (yeah, they know how to overwhelm the system)
*NPS says they got their orders from the Obama Admin (Barry blaming it on some low-level employee in 3...2...1...)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2013 09:31 AM (vvueH)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 02, 2013 09:31 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: tasker at October 02, 2013 09:32 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 02, 2013 01:29 PM (4df7R)
I fear SMOD has been destroyed to make way for a hyperspace bypass.
Posted by: EC at October 02, 2013 09:32 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 09:32 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 02, 2013 09:32 AM (RZP0w)
Hell, they didn't even give me shit for smoking, which I'm sure was technically a violation of some sort. (Of course I made it a point to not just leave my cigarette butt on the ground -- disrespectful as hell at a memorial in any event.)
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 09:32 AM (n/+FT)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 02, 2013 09:33 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Eton Cox at October 02, 2013 09:33 AM (q177U)
http://tinyurl.com/mmpuedq
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 02, 2013 09:33 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: I'm the honey Badger, BITCH! at October 02, 2013 09:33 AM (Wy05x)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 02, 2013 09:33 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Just following orders guy at October 02, 2013 09:33 AM (iuY0Y)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 02, 2013 09:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 09:34 AM (xWW96)
Dyed in the wool o'admin commissars would've stood their ground and arrested the congressional rep's as they removed the barricades.
Posted by: 13times at October 02, 2013 09:35 AM (fGPLK)
Posted by: Soona at October 02, 2013 09:35 AM (6BIFo)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 02, 2013 09:35 AM (VtjlW)
@MPPP (accidently socking Yogi Bear),
I've already lost one job for accidently standing up for what I thought was right (seriously, I didn't even realize there was even a line, just walked right past it, and no one said anything until several weeks later when they decided suddenly "not to renew my contract.")
In any case having done that before (by accident), I don't blame someone for not trying to be the hero here. It is what it is, and the fear of being pushed out in the cold in this economy may drive people to do things we ordinarily wouldn't. The world is a sad sad place to live in.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No really.) at October 02, 2013 09:35 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 09:35 AM (d0L02)
Posted by: J. Johnston at October 02, 2013 09:35 AM (cmA+5)
Posted by: maddogg at October 02, 2013 01:34 PM (xWW96)
From what I hear, she is actually uniquely smart and uniquely evil... It doesn't mean she doesn't have a tin-ear, especially after 5 years in the bubble.
Posted by: Juan McLame at October 02, 2013 09:37 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 02, 2013 09:38 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 02, 2013 09:39 AM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Sugar Land at October 02, 2013 09:39 AM (h8hmA)
Posted by: Book at October 02, 2013 09:39 AM (qWES6)
This.
The point of shitting on the park rangers' collective reputation isn't simply punitive for obeying Obama. It's to send a message to anyone else who might be inclined to 'just follow orders'.
If you disobey your conscience just because the boss makes a demand, you have no character, you are no American, and your fate is no worry of mine.
Posted by: Methos at October 02, 2013 09:39 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 09:40 AM (U13jb)
Posted by: Lev Bronstein at October 02, 2013 09:40 AM (BwsYg)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2013 09:40 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2013 09:40 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Book at October 02, 2013 09:43 AM (qWES6)
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 02, 2013 09:44 AM (ZYDOv)
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 02, 2013 09:44 AM (ZYDOv)
Posted by: Book at October 02, 2013 09:44 AM (qWES6)
Posted by: Dogbert at October 02, 2013 09:44 AM (Ynbgq)
Posted by: Tocquevillian at October 02, 2013 09:46 AM (iuY0Y)
I think you're being more than bit silly here. Obama's order may have been stupid, or vindictive, or doltish (it was in fact all of these things) but it was not unlawful. You cannot refuse unlawful orders, no matter how much you disagree with them, without consequences. Instead, they did the best possible splitting of the difference: they "followed orders" and then conveniently disappeared, nowhere to be found, when the vets and various other folks went through the barricades to the memorial.
To demand anything else of them is to demand they literally destroy their careers and fall on their swords for this petty bullshit. They don't want to be pawns in our current partisan drama and you can't compel them to be. They weren't herding Jews into gas chambers (which is why the Nuremburg "just following orders" phrase I hear from some here is so Godwin-like and out of line), they were putting up easily removed barricades to fulfill the letter of their instructions and then arguably getting themselves into trouble (before the new policy came down) by conspicuously disappearing from the scene to allow those barricades to be overrun. Give folks a break.
It was a very happy, pleasant, upbeat scene out there today. Not a lot of anger. Honestly, it felt less about the current shutdown battle and more about the reverence for the fighting men who gave their lives and their service for the country in World War II.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 09:50 AM (n/+FT)
Yep. One day you're putting up some temporary barricades after your boss tells you to, tomorrow you're rounding people up for the gas chamber.
Got it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint
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Hollowpoint's right. Extermination camps are never preceded by lesser steps or signals that should be any cause for concern. That's because they always spring up magically, like mushrooms, fully formed, overnight, chimneys smoking away. Wannabe tyrants would never be so foolish as to test the resolve of their adversaries or the loyalty of their minions by doing tyrant things incrementally.
That's precisely why Hitler did not breach the treaty of Versailles in 1936 by sending a few platoons of armed police into the demilitarized Rhineland with orders that they retreat upon the least showing of French resolve.
It's not like, one day some comical tyrant is gambling on the French backing down in the face of a couple of inexperienced platoons and then, before you know it, he's conquered most of Europe and is gassing Jews, or something.
Posted by: Boiling Frog at October 02, 2013 09:52 AM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 09:52 AM (U13jb)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 09:54 AM (yETln)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 02, 2013 09:55 AM (d0L02)
Hollowpoint actually is right, and your post is ridiculously overheated. Hey, you know how we'll know if we're on the way to gas chambers? When a party takes power on the platform of physically expelling and/or exterminating a certain minority group. Then forcibly expels them from public life under color of law. Then passes national legislation disenfranchising and expropriating money from them. Then holds government-sponsored pogroms against them.
All those things happened in Germany. Until they do in America, please...please, do not embarrass yourself with this kind of rhetoric.
Posted by: Jeff B. at October 02, 2013 09:56 AM (n/+FT)
If not, the poetry should do the trick.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2013 09:56 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2013 09:58 AM (yETln)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at October 02, 2013 09:58 AM (4p5/2)
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Go on. Newsletter?
Posted by: Barry Zero at October 02, 2013 10:03 AM (YmPwQ)
384. All those things happened in Germany. Until they do in America, please...please, do not embarrass yourself with this kind of rhetoric.
Posted by: Jeff B.
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You appear to be unacquainted with the rhetoric and actions of this administration. See, IRS, NSA, AP, and now, NPS.
You feeling like you have more or less liberty than you used to?
BTW, well done on missing the point. None of the things you list were done by the Nazis in 1933, 1934, 1935 ...
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Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 02, 2013 10:25 AM (U13jb)
Ouch. Good one, LM Spellcheck!
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