March 12, 2014
— Maetenloch
Car F*cker Ready to Settle Down
There's comes a time for a man when playing the parking lot no longer holds the thrill it once did and he begins to long for a single vehicle to share his life with and perhaps one day even raise a fleet of little priuses with.
And for Edward Smith that time is...well real soon now.
After losing his virginity 45 years ago, Edward Smith of Yelm, Washington, knew that the way he felt about headlights and bumpers was the way most men felt about "boobs and buns." Although he never forgot his first - a neighbor's Volkswagon Beetle - the self-proclaimed mechaphile went on to sleep with thousands more automobiles and one woman (who we can only assume is his long-term neighbor Sarah, who is very happy that he's found "something that makes him happy").Now, at the age 62, after driving around with any car or helicopter part that ignited his passion, Smith is ready to give up his slutty ways and become a one-car kind of man. Well, kind of. Although he considers his carfriend Vanilla (a secondhand VW Beetle he's been with for 30 years) his number one, he still has two other cars he sees on the side - Cinnamon and Splash. But Vanilla doesn't seen to mind much. Their relationship is as solid as steel according to Smith.
"When I hold Vanilla in my arms there's a powerful energy that comes from her in response to that . There's something about Vanilla that I can't fully express on an emotional level," Smith said of his carfriend.
[Side note to Yelma-Olympia area morons: Be careful where you park you car and watch yer exhaust hole.]
Ukraine: Hopeless But Not Serious
Spengler is quite down on Ukraine as a viable, independent nation.
There isn't going to be a war over Ukraine. There isn't even going to be a crisis over Ukraine. We will perform our ritual war-dance and excoriate the Evil Emperor, and the result would be the same if we had sung "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" on a road trip to Kalamazoo. Worry about something really scary, like Iran.
Ukraine isn't a country: it's a Frankenstein monster composed of pieces of dead empires, stitched together by Stalin. It has never had a government in the Western sense of the term after the collapse of the Soviet Union gave it independence, just the equivalent of the family offices for one predatory oligarch after another-including the "Gas Princess," Yulia Tymoshenko. It has a per capital income of $3,300 per year, about the same as Egypt and Syria, and less than a tenth of the European average. The whole market capitalization of its stock exchange is worth less than the Disney Company. It's a basket case that claims to need $35 billion to survive the next two years. Money talks and bullshit walks. Who wants to ask the American taxpayer for $35 billion for Ukraine, one of the most corrupt economies on earth? How about $5 billion? Secretary of State Kerry is talking about $1 billion in loan guarantees, and the Europeans are talking a similar amount. That's not diplomacy. It's a clown show.
Still even a poor, benighted country deserves its sovereignty. But that doesn't imply that we must or should go to war over it.
And yes it's clown shows all the way down.
Is Talking the Shortest Path to War?
All too often it is. Thank you State Department.
A half century worth of experience, however, does not support the thesis that diplomacy with rogue regimes or terrorist groups brings peace. Rather, diplomacy misapplied can be the shortest path to war.False assumptions undermine strategic interests. Rogues do not accept American standards of diplomacy or the sanctity of agreements. By Western standards, North Korea, Iran, and the PLO cheat, but if judged by their own goals, they triumph. The West may consider economic integration a benefit, but adversaries do not share motivations. Throughout the 1990s, diplomats spoke of the "China model" for Iran, in which trade might bring economic liberalization and, in turn, spark political reform. The result was a cash infusion into Tehran that ended up fueling its nuclear and missile programs.
...The maxim that "it never hurts to talk" has cost lives. Diplomacy imbues rogue leaders with respectability and rewards both bluster and terror. Rogue rulers are not idiots; they understand that they can delay retaliation for months or even years by feigning sincerity. Iranian authorities have become masterful at taking ten steps forward toward their nuclear goal, so long as they mollify diplomats by occasionally taking one step back.
Also Is Sports Diplomacy Worth it?
The short answer is no since sports were the outcome of diplomacy - not the beginning of it.
Second is the Ping-Pong diplomacy that allegedly broke the ice between the United States and Communist China. Henry Kissinger makes clear in his memoir White House Years, however, that the Ping-Pong exhibition actually came after months of behind-the-scenes diplomacy. To credit the athletes for the diplomatic breakthrough puts the cart between the horse.
Bad Girls, Bad Girls, Whatcha Gonna Do?
Can you guess the crimes these hoosegow honeys were charged with?
How about attempted larceny...of my heart. And misdemeanor bossiness.
Attempted murder, mopery, and littering? Well I'm sure it's all a misunderstanding or something.
If You Can Whine, Thank a Teacher
Some jobs appear right off the bat to be harder than others. Most would concede that it's incredibly hard to do road maintenance work in Arizona in summer or in Michigan in winter. Marine work - both training and fighting - is hard too. Working in a coroner's office must have a high disgust factor. Working on a cattle ranch is a 365-day-a-year, physically exhausting job. I won't go on, but I will point out that you never read articles from road maintenance people, or Marines, or coroner's assistants, or cattle ranchers and cowboys moaning on and on about how horrible their job is and how only haters don't appreciate what they're doing. Funnily enough, that kind of whiny, narcissistic, incredibly irritating rant comes only from teachers.
Teachers make very good money for the hours they work and the job security they enjoy yet are absolutely convinced that they are uniquely underpaid across all professions. The market disagrees.
With five unanimous thumbs up, officials on Tuesday agreed to let Facebook foot the bill for a full-time sworn police officer to work out of a substation near the social media giant's new campus.Menlo Park police Chief Robert Jonsen called it a "benchmark in private-public partnerships" that will result in a highly visible patrol in the Belle Haven neighborhood, an area that has a lower socioeconomic status than the rest of the city and a higher crime rate.
Facebook would fund the officer for three years, with an option to extend the agreement for another two. Tuesday's vote accepted the company's offer of $200,000 a year but added a stipulation that there may be a need to ask for more should costs rise due to pension issues.
Well footing the bill also means influencing how the shots get called.
News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole
I've had many cynical friends over the years. Those friends are funny when you're in your early 20s, but as time marches on that cynicism and negativity tends to wear on a friendship. If you have too many of these types in your social circle, it's hard to kick the habit of being cynical all the time.
I didn't notice how cynical I'd become until I noticed how negative one of my friends was. I realized that we spent the bulk of our time complaining about things, whining about trivial mishaps from the day, or resenting anything new. I couldn't take it anymore and started changing the dynamics of our relationship. The friendship remained, but we hung out less and for shorter periods of time.
Does The Kind of Car You Drive Matter?
It does when you're trying to get a woman's phone number.
The results? The men were successful 23.3 percent of the time when women saw them in a high-status car, 12.8 percent of the time when they drove a middle-status car, and 7.8 percent of the time when they drove a low-status car. Clearly, women are monitoring our status, and we're acutely aware of that fact.
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How were they? (I never have leftovers.)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 06:52 PM (T1005)
Senator Feinstein says the CIA 'spied' on her committee staffers, and the CIA says committee staffers took documents in violation of their agreement. Obama's 'justice' department dithers while Feinstein smears the CIA in the news media.
Drudge has links.
Damn Democrats are traitors and have been for a very long time. Damn shame we put up with it.
Posted by: Stunted Fir Polar Bear Ranch at March 12, 2014 06:52 PM (7OIjL)
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Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 06:53 PM (ZPrif)
I loved flying up it years later in a car with a V8.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 12, 2014 06:53 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 06:54 PM (8FyP4)
" 3 Meanwhile Canucks and Aussies arrested for taking nude pictures at Machu Picchu. "
It was 4 guys acting out scenes from
Brokeback Picchu.
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Posted by: American Dawg at March 12, 2014 06:55 PM (p6iIL)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 10:44 PM (23VXG)
All males? Sounds very ghey to me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 06:55 PM (3Li4k)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 06:55 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: traye at March 12, 2014 06:56 PM (PZeh4)
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Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 06:56 PM (Fi+kS)
Of course it was worth it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2014 06:57 PM (wNF3N)
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Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (gjOCp)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (ZshNr)
The car-status thing is not really new...
Women thru the ages have been attracted to a man astride a mighty steed.
I guess it's kind of a regional thing though, as to what is a 'high status' ride...
Country girls would find a shiny Lexus rather silly.
And City girls probably wouldn't be impressed with a fully loaded 4X4 truck.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 06:58 PM (8quPO)
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Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 07:01 PM (gjOCp)
"News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole'
Frankly, at this point my only hope is reincarnation.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (kdS6q)
One doesn't deserve sovereignty; one takes it and defends it.
You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (30eLQ)
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Posted by: f'd at March 12, 2014 07:02 PM (JdEZJ)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Air_Flight_574
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:03 PM (23VXG)
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Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:03 PM (g4TxM)
Yeah, for sure I won't use that. Why give up being right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 07:04 PM (3Li4k)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 07:04 PM (gjOCp)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:04 PM (ojnk6)
Can you guess the crimes these hoosegow honeys were charged with?
Charge(s): Soliciting prostitution
Hmmm - wait a second, soliciting. That means she was the one trying to purchase the services.
Oh, you naughty, naughty girl.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:05 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (8FyP4)
I've actually met a girl who did this work. She didn't mind it. It helped that she could joke about the "clients". After all, they're a lot less demanding than a teacher's clients . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (30eLQ)
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Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:06 PM (IW1TI)
"News You Won't Use: How to Stop Being a Cynical Asshole"
I'd read that article, but, it's probably just a bunch of shit.
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Posted by: Thrawn at March 12, 2014 07:09 PM (WlWt+)
See also: 20 Naughty Girls With Smoking Hot Mugshots
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Charge(s): Bringing in and harboring aliens
Hey, Mrs Hector! *waves*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:09 PM (kdS6q)
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Posted by: model_1066 at March 12, 2014 07:10 PM (KWIwL)
Someone posted a comment with a link to a news article at Romea.cz. I followed the link, but when I came back here and refreshed the comments, that comment was gone.
Is that site banned here? I never looked at it before, but it looks to be a site dedicated to news regarding the Romani people (gypsies). Didn't see anything offensive, so I'm trying to figure out why the comment disappeared. Or maybe the commenter him or herself is the problem?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:11 PM (IN7k+)
Buying guns can actually be a very sensible investment if some thought goes into it, and they can be passed down to the next generation.
Unless they're lost in tragic boating accidents. Which I understand sometimes happens with elderly gun owners.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:11 PM (gqT4g)
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Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 11:11 PM (IN7k+)
Probably someone who's been TB3K-banned. Or on the outs with the CT Mafia.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:12 PM (XkotV)
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Good evening, y'all!
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Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 07:16 PM (whqez)
8 Women Who Auctioned Off Their Virginity
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Rosie Reid, an 18-year-old lesbian from the UK, decided to sell her first sexual experience for $13,300 to attend Bristol University. The buyer? After 2,000 bids, a 44-year-old engineer and divorced father of two won the coveted prize. Rosie regrets the decision. After the act took place she and her partner Jess Cameron “cried and cried.”
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:16 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 11:07 PM (whqez)
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Today had a doctor's appt, and in the waiting room ( 6 or 7) peoples were hunched over thumbing some kind of device. Not clue. No sit-awareness. No nothing.
I felt like a pure honest-to-god alien in my own city, country, whatever. Go ahead and shoot me now.
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 07:16 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:17 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 07:17 PM (ZshNr)
Hipster douchebags all over San Francisco routinely get rabbit punched by feral teens from the projects, who then take the phone plus any wallets/purses on hand.
The hipsters never see it coming, because they're head down in the device the whole goddamn time, as they walk down the sidewalk.
The projects population are reputed to call these hipsters "Apple trees", as 90% of those thus targeted are carrying various glossy iShit.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:17 PM (gqT4g)
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Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 07:19 PM (Q8vlx)
Forecast was for 3-5" tonite--that was 8" ago.
We already have 2' laying around this shot looks to leave about 18" by the end of the fun.
Plus the wind is really howling.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2014 07:19 PM (SAMxH)
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Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (g4TxM)
This is why I was cynical about "charter schools!" in an earlier thread (having seen what their students are doing as coursework here in Denver).
It's not about "charter schools!". What are they actually teaching in those "charter schools!"?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:22 PM (30eLQ)
It's a lot like many years ago when I read The Stand, and every time I coughed I'd think, Uh oh.
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Posted by: Lincolntf at March 12, 2014 07:24 PM (ZshNr)
lol. You got me curious, so I just read 4 pages on the history of the CT mafia.
I'd ask you if there's anything you need to know about them, but you would probably take that as an invitation to come up with some obscure trivia kind of query.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:24 PM (IN7k+)
I use the term asshole as a modifier.
There is no such animal as a non asshole hipster.
No such being has yet been discovered.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2014 07:25 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:25 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:25 PM (g4TxM)
Some day he hopes to move to Utah and have a 12 car garage.
Posted by: Lincolntf
On some days he takes the subway.
The tramp.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 12, 2014 07:26 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 12, 2014 07:26 PM (Q8vlx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 11:21 PM (23VXG)
I was going to say that shit.
Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at March 12, 2014 07:26 PM (HBDnk)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:27 PM (JMmQ9)
Do I understand her correctly? Because, if I do, it seems she has completely unraveled her own argument, and quite early on at that.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 11:19 PM (DmNpO)
No I think she's saying that the best, most experienced teachers didn't teach her how to be an effective teacher. Which is almost certainly true since that's not the purpose of school unless you're studying education, and graduate classes in education are notoriously worthless at teaching practical teaching skills.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:27 PM (XkotV)
FIFY.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 10:56 PM (IN7k+)
I don't really see it as Obama's CIA because I don't think he really cares. DOJ, on the other hand, is important to him because he can direct Holder to persecute political enemies and protect political allies.
Panetta was reported to be a Hillary person, and if true, that would make the CIA an enemy of Obama. Especially since Feinstein is accusing the agency of 'spying'. Obama as nominal leader of the democrat party could shut that down if he wanted. Since he hasn't, I hold to my conclusion; Obama and Feinstein are trying to castrate the CIA.
Posted by: Stunted Fir Polar Bear Ranch at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (7OIjL)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:28 PM (PaW7t)
Utter emotive bullshit, of course.
What it comes down to is a generically incapable individual suddenly realizing a specific case of their own incapacity.
I've had many conversations about "best teachers" who people recall from their own lives, and many times said teachers were ones with little or no previous experience in teaching. Or in "reaching" or in "inspiring".
An incredible number of old time military service members have said that military technical training school had the highest quality teachers. Teachers? Sure. They would be called "instructors", but they're teachers in all but name. They're educating young adults, and they're certainly not professors. They're often just technical sergeants with not much more than a high school degree to their own name.
But, those technical school teachers had certain incentives to convey the information efficiently. Such as being sent off to man some godawful Arctic Circle radar station if they failed to perform. And they had certain advantages, such as being able to administer genuinely painful discipline to goldbricking pupils.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: Jen at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (JqB3t)
Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2014 07:29 PM (whqez)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:30 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:30 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:30 PM (23VXG)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 12, 2014 07:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:31 PM (ojnk6)
That's a lot of missing ice-creams from their fridge
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:33 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:33 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: The VW at March 12, 2014 07:33 PM (79AXR)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:34 PM (IW1TI)
http://oopsmile.com/someone-likes-sharks-too-much/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:34 PM (23VXG)
Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:35 PM (DtNNC)
(OK, so technically that was 3 questions. Sue me.)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 11:22 PM (g4TxM)
None exist. Its impossible to mention the word hipster without thinking of things like the first new hood ornament on lord Humungus's car when the balloon goes up
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 07:35 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:36 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Goldilocks at March 12, 2014 07:36 PM (OQbOG)
Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2014 07:37 PM (y7PFk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:37 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (IW1TI)
Oh hell, I'll stand in for him. "Melt". Stop what you are doing now if you haven't heard that album.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: and irresolute at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (RqHWH)
Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (DtNNC)
Yeah teaching is not that hard. It's a skill like any other which means that experience and practice ultimately determine how good you are. Some people are naturally charismatic or great at explaining things and they'll become better sooner and maybe even make it to the top 5% of all teachers. But it's not like teaching is some magical gift that only a special few can do.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:39 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (MtC8f)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (DmNpO)
When I (increasingly rarely) take public transit I look around and I am the only guy looking around, without ear buds, or my retinas locked on a touch screen.
Occasionally I see another similar human. Our eyes meet. We smile in acknowledgement.
Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2014 07:40 PM (AW7Gr)
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Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Goldilocks at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (OQbOG)
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Seems it was becoming clear that her 'friend's'
father (lawyer) and said 18 yo plaintiff were very 'close'.
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 07:44 PM (Fi+kS)
Posted by: buzzion at March 12, 2014 07:45 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:45 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:45 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 11:30 PM (DmNpO)
Like I said graduate studies in education are pretty much worthless when it comes to teaching the nuts and bolts of classroom teaching. Friends I've known who have gotten a masters in Education to get certified universally say they learned vastly more in six weeks of student teaching with a mentor than they did in two years of graduate classes.
Posted by: Mætenloch at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (XkotV)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (MtC8f)
"Someone who knows about the business of inspiring children. Of reaching students."
My second grade homeroom teacher was a harridan. A battleax. And she certainly reached me. With her hand reaching down and gripping my ear with the power of a hundred-ton hydraulic press and hauling me upright out of my seat. Ow ow ow!
Once in that position, did she then "inspire" me? With a joy of learning?
Shit, no.
She instead filled me with a pure abject terror of FAILING TO LEARN.
Because if I didn't learn, I would not be able to answer when called upon, and I would be hauled out of my seat again and verbally humiliated in front of the class. As would happen to any of my other classmates if they failed.
Today's pedagogy views such methods as horribly abusive. They say it will crush the spirits of the delicate flowers of childhood.
Except that today's pedagogy routinely turns out a noticeable percentage of _high school graduates_ who perform at a lower level academically than did my second grade homeroom by the end of the year. And every single one of us, crushed spirits or not, performed up to the requisite specification. Or else.
Funny thing, also. No "learning disabilities" in evidence in that second grade homeroom. Not a one.
That stuff just came along all of a sudden a few years later. Right as modern pedagogy came in, and the insensitive old harridans were sent off to retirement, replaced with sensitive and caring new educational specialists armed with the latest theories from grad school. "New math". "Whole word reading." "Ebonics".
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Adam at March 12, 2014 07:46 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 07:47 PM (HYcaA)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:47 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (IW1TI)
The CIA has no business spying on senators. If they did do that, it should be exposed. Heads should roll, publicly.
Panetta worked for Obama when he was at CIA, he still works for him now that is is SecDef. You really think that Obama would promote someone to to that position if that person was disloyal to Obama. The CIA is under the control of the president, and Obama is responsible for all that it does. Including when they illegally spy on members of the legislative branch.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (MtC8f)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:48 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: Bizarro World Winston Churchill at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (nzhKN)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (DmNpO)
Hey! Not fair!
I just wanted to offer them some hot chocolate!
Posted by: Pajama Boy at March 12, 2014 07:49 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:50 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: cynical asshole at March 12, 2014 07:51 PM (RqHWH)
I know many here don't want to admit it, but I'm actually Sec Def.
Posted by: Chuck Hagel at March 12, 2014 07:51 PM (HBDnk)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (ojnk6)
The CIA wasn't 'spying' on senators. Read the washington post story linked on Drudge. The agency was trying to track sensitive documents the senate committee staffers took. In other words, the agency was trying to protect sensitive information that Feinstein wanted to leak.
It's a five year long witch hunt first started to hang GWBush who is no longer in public office, and it has now turned into a vendetta against the CIA.
Posted by: Stunted Fir Polar Bear Ranch at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (7OIjL)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Adam at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:52 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 12, 2014 07:53 PM (R+XDI)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (WdbF7)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:54 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (RZ8pf)
The very first thing hillary will do the day after she wins in 2016 is serve Bill with papers.
Then soon into her lifelong term, she'll have her FBI and CIA goons torture and kill Bill Clinton. Who knows, maybe she'll be a new woman after that.
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 11:34 PM (IW1TI)
If we get Jeb Bush as an "electable" candidate, I'd vote for Rodham if I was sure the last paragraph would happen. I'd even volunteer to help carry that out, gratis.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (YbFCe)
Posted by: Tom Hanks at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (nzhKN)
I know many here don't want to admit it, but I'm actually Sec Def.
Posted by: Chuck Hagel at March 12, 2014 11:51 PM (HBDnk)
****
Ack! You're right. I blocked it out that Hagel (spit) took over the position.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (IN7k+)
http://oopsmile.com/epic-elevator-prank/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 07:55 PM (23VXG)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 07:56 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 07:57 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: and irresolute at March 12, 2014 07:57 PM (RqHWH)
Machiavelli had some comments about this. He said that while/if the Prince is winning, all his subjects will be unanimously supportive of him. Pootypoot just snagged the Crimea for Russia.
Of course Putin is popular amongst ethnic Russians. Just like an American President would be popular amongst us if he'd annexed Baja California and Barbados without a war and without any real local opposition. Fuck, dude, cheap winter vacations.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (WdbF7)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: cryptocon at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (cgWjy)
She does not realize that she is the last of the shelter adoptees and that by her very, um, self, she has doomed many kittens to not being adopted by me-ness.
Posted by: Null at March 12, 2014 07:58 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 07:59 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 07:59 PM (RZ8pf)
Nothing will ever be as epic as the Brazilian "ghost girl" elevator prank.
I am completely nonsuperstitious and that would have flipped me out.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 08:00 PM (gqT4g)
We male morons have had Helen Thomas's grin seared, seared into our memories. So we can endure a lot.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:00 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Shoey at March 12, 2014 08:01 PM (vA94g)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:01 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 12, 2014 08:01 PM (5REbo)
Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:02 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Angela Merkel at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (M3hAT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 12, 2014 11:53 PM (R+XDI)
Important errands we suppose
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:03 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:05 PM (Fi+kS)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 12, 2014 08:05 PM (M3hAT)
Right. And Panetta would've been SCOAMF's CIA Director when it happened.
Panetta, who we were told, though having know intelligence experience, and was a political hack previously, would be wonderful as head of the CIA. Might as well've just appointed Sandy Berger.
But, anyway, was just reminding that he is not Sec Def now, unfortunately Hagel the Horrible is.
Posted by: Chuck Hagel at March 12, 2014 08:05 PM (HBDnk)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 11:55 PM (RZ8pf)
Scarred for life eh?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 08:06 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 08:06 PM (MtC8f)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 12, 2014 08:07 PM (M3hAT)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 08:08 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: The Political Blob Hat at March 12, 2014 08:08 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 08:08 PM (gjOCp)
One of the few men of my acquaintance who I think actually understands women (or at least to a much higher level than does the typical male) says that if Hillary is elected, it's not going to work the way it did with Obama.
White female baby boomer media figures supported Obama quite obviously as a candidate, and their support didn't slack one bit once he was President. If anything it became even more intense and less well concealed.
Whereas, he says, white female baby boomer media figures will support Hillary right up until she's elected, and then the long knives will quietly come out from behind their backs, and the bitchy teardown will begin.
Crabs. A bucket. Some assembly required.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 08:09 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:09 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 12, 2014 08:10 PM (M3hAT)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:10 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: whyme at March 12, 2014 08:10 PM (l9mF2)
So I'm outa here before those big evil black MRAP and black suburbans full of FBI SWAT show up.
Posted by: Dr Johnny Fever at March 12, 2014 08:11 PM (0mp5c)
Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:11 PM (Fi+kS)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:12 PM (IW1TI)
http://oopsmile.com/cosplay-win-2/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 08:12 PM (23VXG)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 12, 2014 11:55 PM (RZ8pf)
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Umm, but won't that mean that your eyes will always be closed and you will always see that vision of - I won't repeat it.
Unless... that's what you're going for?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:12 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (MtC8f)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 12, 2014 08:13 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 12, 2014 08:14 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Hillary! at March 12, 2014 08:14 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 08:15 PM (ojnk6)
This is like how "mahna mahna" was originally composed for a Swedish pr0n.
But Dr Teeth from the Muppets owned it -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_tupPBtWQ
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:15 PM (30eLQ)
_______________________________
Begging you Fever, do not let the phone cops get put you down. Play Sam Cooke, quick.
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:15 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 08:16 PM (HYcaA)
Posted by: Countrysquire at March 12, 2014 10:54 PM (8FyP4)
Dual exhaust makes me fap
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:16 PM (aTXUx)
http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=issue&id=16
Second Amendment
There are many in Washington who give lip service to the Second Amendment, but vote to restrict gun ownership once they begin serving in public office. Gun control laws only restrict access to responsible gun ownership. High risk individuals will still be able to acquire firearms even with an increase in prevention. I do not support any proposed gun control law which would limit the right to gun ownership by those who are responsible, law-abiding citizens.
Politicians often give lip service to the 2nd Amendment but then go off to Washington and vote to restrict gun ownership. We need to send people to Washington that not only understand the 2nd amendment but the entire Bill of Rights.
How many supposed pro-gun politicians voted for the Patriot Act which gives the government the right to search your home without a warrant, when you're not home, leave listening devices, and use any and all information to create a prosecution on any charge regardless of their original reason for the search?
Gun rights advocates need to know that the 2nd amendment is only as good as the fourth amendment. If we are not free from unreasonable and warrantless searches, no one's guns are safe.
As your Senator, I plan to remain vigilant and fight against infringements on our 2nd Amendment rights.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:17 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:18 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: NCKate at March 12, 2014 08:18 PM (y7PFk)
Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:19 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2014 08:19 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2014 08:20 PM (HYcaA)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (23VXG)
You got questions, you come to me
Posted by: Carr the Threadwalker at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Mindy at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (Ew9Pv)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (ojnk6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN5Mqr6tRlw
It might help if you are from Washington State or Colorado.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 11:59 PM (DtNNC)
Its the scene of him banging the hookers while looking at himself in the mirror flexing his biceps isn't it.
Posted by: buzzion at March 12, 2014 08:21 PM (LI48c)
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May I order the Dodge Charger Daytona (winged option) please?
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 13, 2014 12:20 AM
You ain't gonna be a hard case, are ya boy?
Posted by: Carr the Threadwalker at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (iB0Q2)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:22 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:23 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:25 PM (DmNpO)
Not me, Boss. I'm just going to quietly do my time in the barrel and get my mind right.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:25 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:26 PM (Fi+kS)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 08:26 PM (Aqvh6)
Now, a Boss 302 Mustang, Shelby Mustang GT, Camaro SS, Challenger, Cuda, and of course the 68 Olds 442, 66 Pontiac GTO, 69 Chevelle SS, or the 64-67 327 Corvette
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Fox2! at March 12, 2014 08:29 PM (cHwSy)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 12, 2014 08:30 PM (4Chvm)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 08:30 PM (Aqvh6)
I horked in it.
Ah, I thought I heard the Horked-Wessel-Song...good to know at this late date...
Posted by: Null at March 12, 2014 08:30 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:31 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 12, 2014 08:32 PM (4Chvm)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:33 PM (aTXUx)
What's the consensus on Queensryche's "American Soldier" album? Its a tribute to the US armed forces, and I really, really like it. But I never have served and I don't know maybe it seems cheesy to real soldiers.
http://youtu.be/RfGAdkKuqag
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2014 08:33 PM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 12:29 AM (DmNpO)<<<
I'd buy one.
Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 12, 2014 08:34 PM (xntvk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:34 PM (DmNpO)
lol. I was thinking along similar lines. Difference being I was to lazy to actually go look it up.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:36 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:37 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Dendritic at March 12, 2014 08:38 PM (Fi+kS)
Posted by: irright at March 12, 2014 08:39 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 12, 2014 08:39 PM (IW1TI)
Posted by: Mr Know-It-All at March 12, 2014 08:39 PM (9Zci/)
Posted by: dennis kucuinich at March 12, 2014 08:41 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: RWC at March 12, 2014 08:42 PM (MtC8f)
Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2014 08:42 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 08:42 PM (gjOCp)
Go look at my post #55 of an Indonesian 737 that went down. Took them nine days to even find the wreckage that was floating.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (23VXG)
Because they can kick out the ones who don't want to be there and make the rest sweat and suffer when they screw up. Teachers can do neither. Which is part of the problem.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:44 PM (JMmQ9)
And the wonderful teachers will march in protests when their unions call to protect those bad teachers
When you circle the wagons, you take the fire
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:45 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 08:45 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: Vallerie Jarrett at March 13, 2014 12:37 AM (5MaPI)
I bet a fast pass with a Geiger counter would tell a whole different story.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (gjOCp)
I say the same of teachers that I do of cops
You want respect, stop protecting the bad ones
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (aTXUx)
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All yours are da best. Talkin' bout Daytona 500 contenders. (PS Owned and loved the Mustang 302)
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 08:47 PM (aUQgu)
holy smokes, I just realized he's been gone for a while!
Posted by: soothsayer
Purp has taken long hiatuses before when he's had projects or just felt like doing other things for a while
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:49 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 12:44 AM (dfYL9)
It was never the priest who was the enforcer--always the nuns. They had no feet, they never went to the bathroom, they were positively ethereal, and they sure as hell brooked no shit in the classroom. And we loved them for it.
Catholic school for the win.
Posted by: tcn at March 12, 2014 08:49 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Mindy at March 12, 2014 08:49 PM (Ew9Pv)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 08:50 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 12, 2014 08:51 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 08:51 PM (DmNpO)
I have no sympathy whatsoever. I have paid the price in taxes, so I'll not pay it in emotion or wasted breath.
Posted by: tcn at March 12, 2014 08:52 PM (fwcEs)
The wonderful teachers usually hate the union.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 12:51 AM (dfYL9)
And the way cool thing is that most of the good ones in Madison and the rest of the state aren't paying union dues anymore, either. The union has laid off more workers than any other sector. Parasites, all of 'em.
Posted by: tcn at March 12, 2014 08:53 PM (fwcEs)
A new keyboard. You owe me one.
Unless I can somehow rinse the beer out of this one. BRB.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 08:53 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Gilligan at March 12, 2014 08:54 PM (84gbM)
I wonder if that crosses her mind as she's screaming over the phone to the customer service rep who is patiently trying to explain the terms of service she neglected to read or the loan terms she initialed quickly to get out the door ASAP
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:54 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:54 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Mary Kay Letourneau, education facilitator at March 12, 2014 08:56 PM (FbMva)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 08:57 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 08:57 PM (PaW7t)
If you go to google and search for this term:
"Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say"
The 4th link is the WSJ post. If you come to it from google, you will get the whole article, even if you are not a subscriber.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 08:57 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 08:58 PM (PaW7t)
The wonderful teachers usually hate the union.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 12:51 AM
Wonderful teachers must be a rarity rather than the norm, because most of the teachers I've met are huge union supporters, and every "Teacher of the Year" talks of how everyone should belong to a union
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 08:58 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Dr. Elliott P. Joslin at March 12, 2014 08:59 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2014 08:59 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 08:59 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The AIP Hat at March 12, 2014 09:01 PM (AymDN)
Nonsense. The Gremlin. If you were driving one of those, everybody who saw you knew you were utterly and completely fucked.
Posted by: Epobirs at March 12, 2014 09:01 PM (bPxS6)
http://is.gd/3xkuaY
http://is.gd/99V9RC
Edgar sounds like Mr. Garrison at times, and Johnny could play Billy Bob's part in Sling Blade.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at March 12, 2014 09:01 PM (m0h0I)
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
The investigators believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 09:02 PM (IN7k+)
It's happened before, there were even incidents where a coast to coast flight overshot SFO and flew on over the Pacific for an hour before waking and realizing what happened
American carriers have strict flight hours rules for pilots as do many foreign carriers. I don't know what Malaysia's regulations are
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:03 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 13, 2014 12:54 AM (IN7k+)
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Chinese do not "think" like you and me. They are not beyond creating a political environment wherein they can declare supremacy. In this case, possibly, by using their own citizens as pawns.
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 09:03 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:03 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:05 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 12, 2014 09:05 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:05 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 09:06 PM (gjOCp)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:07 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:07 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:07 PM (PYAXX)
There is a ton of onboard computational intelligence in a big modern jet engine. Sensors all over the thing.
The engine is constantly reporting back to home base on its own via various communications channels what its overall state of health is. And passing along any error or wear signals in subsystems.
If the primary fuel pump on #2 has an erratic pressure output? Maybe headquarters need to have a replacement pump shipped to meet the arriving jet for a quick swap at the gate. It costs a whole lot of money to have a 777 sitting in a hangar waiting for a part, instead of out flying in revenue service.
Outfits like Rolls-Royce, who made the engines on the missing jet, track this stuff obsessively. It's a key competitive tool for them. And, sometimes, the likes of Rolls have contracts with the airlines where the manufacturer maintains the engine so their airline doesn't have to mess with it: a "power by the hour" contract.
If I have this right, the Rollers called home via satellite link.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 09:08 PM (gqT4g)
U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
WSJ (not infowars or zerohedge)! http://tinyurl.com/k8oslqt
This means the engines have their own transmit bus or whatever shut down the rest of the communications didn't impact the engine hums systems access to the antennas and radios.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:08 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Epobirs at March 13, 2014 01:01 AM
Gremlins crashed that plane! Didn't you see it? It was out there on the wing!!!!
Posted by: Twilight Zone Shatner at March 12, 2014 09:09 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:10 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 12, 2014 09:10 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:11 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: The AIP Hat at March 12, 2014 09:11 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:08 AM (Aqvh6)
Maybe because whoever shut down the transponders and the comms radios didn't know about the data link for the engines?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:11 PM (3Li4k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:12 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:13 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:13 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:14 PM (ojnk6)
If that condition is not present, no learning will happen. Ever. By any teacher, no matter what you pay them.
Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2014 09:14 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:14 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 09:15 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Its a background maintenance thing, they have them for vibration data as well, the pilots may have been briefed once in training and its a numbered breaker on a bus of hundreds. I doubt the pilots would know how to turn it off without a few minutes flipping thru the manual.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:15 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: The Farmer at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (lA4ty)
Posted by: Carol at March 12, 2014 09:16 PM (gjOCp)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:17 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:18 PM (3Li4k)
Amazing that Rolls-Royce is the only one with the data uplink and monitoring
I know that if the engines flame out the electrical system will only hold out as long as the batteries do, but will the engines keep running if the electrical system goes down?
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:18 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 12, 2014 09:18 PM (84gbM)
You want respect, stop protecting the bad ones
Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 12:47 AM (aTXUx)
I remember when I graduated high school, and my brother was starting high school the year I got out, so I figured I would drive him to school just to look at the school and be able to say not this year. Well, I see all the teacher striking with their fucking signs on the first frigging day of school. There were teachers and students and a frigging refreshment table, etc. I saw a teacher who I didn't really get along with, she was a psycho who gave me an F one semester, and an A the following semester without me doing a damn thing different. Anyway, I said whats up with the strike? She rattles off a fucking laundry list of grievances that was the biggest pack of shit I ever heard.
Having the ink barely dry on my diploma and realizing there wasn't a damn thing they can do to me anymore I let out an epic rant. I said are you fucking kidding me? Mr P never taught a god damn class the 3 years I was here, he handed out multiple choice work sheets every day and sat at his desk reading the news paper. And Mr G used to fall asleep at his desk every day leaving the kids to just hang out and talk among themselves. Also, every body knows Mr Z was fucking Mrs A in his pickup at night after their coaching duties were over, and Miss M was getting high with her students. Mr A spends his summers off bar tending at club so and so down the shore spending his time eying up chicks too young for him, and you think you all have it rough?????? You people are fucking insane. I turned to my brother and said man good luck.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 09:19 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:20 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:21 PM (RJMhd)
This is lovely: an elderly lady who waved at the high school students passing her house every day got a wonderful surprise.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/mrhpb9d
Just a little pick-me-up, and a reminder that the kids are, like, totally redeemable. ;-)Posted by: Beverly at March 12, 2014 09:21 PM (YmX6W)
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:15 AM (Aqvh6)
And if a hijacker put a gun to the pilot's head, and said, "Turn off all the radios and transponders now!" the pilot could throw switches, and show the lights going out on the comms radios, and the transponders, and simply not mention the data links, and hope that somebody else on the ground watches them.
I wonder if that plane is on the ground somewhere in Burma or bangladesh?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:21 PM (3Li4k)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (ojnk6)
But if engines were sending data over the satlink that proves that the transponders weren't turned off by some catastrophic event that destroyed the satlink. So that supports the hijacking theory -- just one where the bad guys didn't know about the engine data being sent. Posted by: Flatbush Joe
There was no common, high data rate satcom antenna on that plane - unless Rolls has their own in the engines ( it would be a low data rate burst messager - eg Iridium SMS).
These are terrestrial VHF or SSB data bursts, and a collected and forwarded to IP addresses by automated systems. (I am familiar with the vibration ones, which do so on the ground - but could do it in the air if the money was right.) I would assume various mil ferret sats would also pick up (and discard) the data. I don't see what Rolls couldn't have there own SSB or VHF modem; they are smaller then a deck of cards, draw nothing, and are relatively cheap.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (Aqvh6)
I regret nothing.
Posted by: The Cat at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (gqT4g)
403 engine data should show at least whether it was under human control and not just flying blind. Couldn't it show if it landed, too?
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 13, 2014 01:12 AM (ZPrif)
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Maybe...if the thrust reversers were used, it might show that in the data link.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 09:22 PM (8quPO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:24 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 13, 2014 01:19 AM (FMbng)
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Thanks, Bro. Wanna get me a few more enemies with power over me prior to Friday?
Did you top that by telling all the girls your bro had a tiny dick?
Posted by: jc at March 12, 2014 09:24 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:25 PM (RJMhd)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezola_B._Foster
There are DuBois blacks. There are Booker T Washington blacks. And then there are William Hannibal Thomas blacks . . .
Posted by: zimriel at March 12, 2014 09:25 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (84gbM)
Amazing that Rolls-Royce is the only one with the data uplink and monitoring
I don't think that's true. GE certainly has it on other platforms.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:26 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: tasker at March 12, 2014 09:27 PM (RJMhd)
They produce the electrical power.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:27 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 12, 2014 09:28 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:28 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Piercello at March 12, 2014 09:30 PM (jJ97i)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:30 PM (PYAXX)
"Arabian Sea", aka Persian Gulf. And what was the nationality of the people with the stolen passports? Iranian. If the plane actually landed somewhere, I think Iran would be an excellent place to look.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 09:31 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (DmNpO)
That's all way out of bounds - getting there would mean flying over India, and that didn't happen. Bangladesh and Burma, maybe - but they are relatively densely populated. Did they try and hit Diego - but miss. Somalia ?
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (Aqvh6)
435 429
Agreed, getting a little tired of every thread getting infested with this incident. It is what it is, let's move on, folks.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 13, 2014 01:26 AM (ojnk6)
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It's just now getting even more interesting.
But you are free to come up with some brilliant topic that 'folks' may find more intriguing, and 'move on' to.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (8quPO)
Posted by: Elaine Dickinson at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:32 PM (PYAXX)
That was one hell of a text wal to climb, but good stuff. Thanks.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 13, 2014 01:22 AM (ojnk6)
Well it was 2 paragraphs when I typed it. Last night I typed 2 organized paragraphs and it looked like somebody with tourettes typed it. It was a scattered mess.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 09:33 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:33 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:34 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: jc at March 13, 2014 01:24 AM (PlzOe)
Shit, my bro was the football dude, he fucked his way through highschool.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2014 09:36 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: dennis kucuinich at March 13, 2014 12:41 AM
I saw 100,000 Maniac Whores open for The Indigo Girls at the Universal Amphitheater in 1996
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:36 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:38 PM (DmNpO)
Never did see 10,000 Maniacs. Contented myself with Curve, Lush and Echobelly. Any of whose lead singers could have torn Natalie Merchant apart Bacchae-style
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:40 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2014 09:41 PM (xq1UY)
454 It would have to fly over two US carrier battlegroups to get to Iran.
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:33 AM (Aqvh6)
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I've heard of smaller planes flying 'below radar' for pretty long distances.
But it would be truly remarkable for one this size to do that.
Over water, they would decrease the chances of being sighted...but still, it would be quite a feat to fly for four hours at really low altitude.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 09:41 PM (8quPO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:42 PM (DmNpO)
pessimist -- "that glass is half empty"
cynic -- "who cares, that swill isn't fit to drink."
Posted by: jc at March 12, 2014 09:42 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:43 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: The Farmer at March 12, 2014 09:43 PM (eBupg)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:43 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 12, 2014 09:44 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (Aqvh6)
They produce the electrical power.
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 01:27 AM
I know that a diesel engine on a boat, bus, or truck will keep running if the electrical system goes down but not vice-versa. I was wondering if a turbojet which doesn't require electrical spark for combustion could keep running without the electrical system, assuming that the control surfaces dependent on electricity locked in place at level flight in clear weather
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Piercello at March 12, 2014 09:45 PM (jJ97i)
Over water, they would decrease the chances of being sighted...but still, it would be quite a feat to fly for four hours at really low altitude.
Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 01:41 AM (8quPO)
Planes fly at 30-40 thousand feet because the air is much thinner, and they expend less fuel to overcome air resistance, and can travel farther. I expect an airliner's range would be considerably lessened if they stayed at 3000 feet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:47 PM (3Li4k)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:47 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 09:48 PM (DmNpO)
I expect an airliner's range would be considerably lessened if they stayed at 3000 feet.
Absolutely
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 09:49 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 01:45 AM (aTXUx)
I suppose that would depend upon whether the fuel pumps are electrical, or mechanical, and driven off the engines. And there are probably redundant electrical systems, too. Not all the eggs in one basket.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 09:50 PM (3Li4k)
There are also other electrical power sources. Batteries. APU. Ram air turbine.
But if the bus based power distribution systems do a face plant, suddenly there's no way to get power to where it needs to be. Especially since bus failures sometimes damagingly cascade.
Note that this is why it's a major airliner layout mistake to place galleys or lavatories on the passenger deck immediately above the electrical systems controls on the lower deck. Yet this has happened with bad results.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 09:53 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 09:53 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 09:59 PM (PYAXX)
Thanks!
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at March 12, 2014 10:00 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:00 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:02 PM (Aqvh6)
466 Interesting forum with aviation folks chatting it up
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Thanks for that link, NDH.
You're right...really interesting forum.
Someone just posted about being able to tell from the engine data if it had landed or not:
"If Rolls Royce can monitor engine data, i'd assume this means N1, reverser status?
They should be able to know whether the recording ended with the A/C at full power, low EGT (fuel exhaustion), a lower powered approach setting or maybe with reversers (having landed)?"
~ dr dre
That's what I meant upthread about the thrust reversers being deployed.
Which means = landed.
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 10:02 PM (8quPO)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 10:05 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)
The word "monitor" may be taken by some to have expansive implications.
Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 10:09 PM (gqT4g)
The word "monitor" may be taken by some to have expansive implications.
Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 10:09 PM (gqT4g)
The word "monitor" may be taken by some to have expansive implications.
Rolls get occasional squawks of data from the engines, not a continuous data stream. Whereas when most of us think of something being "monitored", we assume it is being continuously and closely watched.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 10:09 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 10:13 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:13 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 10:13 PM (IN7k+)
http://bit.ly/1ifDLQb Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
His description seems like a meteor. An aircraft going down on fire isn't going to be very bright. It's not a firework full of magnesium - at 500Kts you see smoke, maybe a flash if their is an explosion. What would be making all that light during the descent - the kerosene wouldn't, it would make alot of smoke.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:14 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2014 10:14 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 12, 2014 10:16 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:17 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 12, 2014 10:17 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 02:09 AM (gqT4g)
But would the engine data systems not be programmed to squawk whenever the engine status changed? Presumably Rolls Royce would want to know that they were performing within spec, whether at cruise, or in climb-out, or in thrust reversal on the runway? Problems are most likely to show up first when the engines are working hard, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2014 10:17 PM (3Li4k)
496...His description seems like a meteor.
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 02:14 AM (Aqvh6)
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Yeah it sort of does, doesn't it.
If the plane went down at that time...then what would account for the additional hours of engine data being transmitted?
Posted by: wheatie at March 12, 2014 10:19 PM (8quPO)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:20 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:25 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 02:14 AM
Jean, what do you do for a living? Your posts indicate some working experience with aircraft engineering and flight
They're very informative, I thank you
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 10:29 PM (aTXUx)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qfIecwXFg
Good night, everyone! May your dreams be Obama-free.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 12, 2014 10:30 PM (/96QU)
better number to use than max speed. True, airlines typically prefer to
run the planes at the typical cruising speed. But, hijackers and other
kinds of bad guys are going to want to haul ass with their booty and
would be willing to go with the max speed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 13, 2014 02:13 AM (IN7k+) Hide posts from (IN7k+)
Cruising speed is the speed where the plane is at its most efficient....that is to say, where it will have its greatest range.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 10:32 PM (T1005)
These HUMS systems (Health and Usage Monitoring) are critical for keeping these complex systems operating.
I would love to see a basic map of continuous air search radar coverage with ranges to a modest figure of merit on 777 in that region. Who should have seen something, but didn't would put some holes in the big map they are searching.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:39 PM (Aqvh6)
A flight time of five hours is interesting because the flight time from KL to Beijing is 5:55 hours, including fuel for diversion, etc, the 777 should have been fulled for at least 7:00 hours flight time.
So, if they only ended up flying for 5 hours, they could afford to burn some extra fuel to get there faster.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 12, 2014 10:46 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:51 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Joewhoisalwayslatetothethread at March 12, 2014 10:55 PM (4jlYO)
Posted by: AOSHQ Style Guide at March 12, 2014 10:56 PM (AWwDY)
You also learned not to become a teacher or a unionized government employee, I'd say he did a damn good job.
Posted by: Jean at March 12, 2014 10:57 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 12, 2014 11:07 PM (PaW7t)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 12, 2014 11:15 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Joewhoisalwayslatetothethread at March 12, 2014 11:28 PM (4jlYO)
It is utterly outrageous to make the spurious claims he does, and if he wants to claim Ukraine is not a nation, I suggest he tell it to a couple of septuagenarian emigres in the Bronx, the wussie.
If a fair and impartial election were held, not 20% of the Russian-speaking population of Crimea would choose Putin's oligarchy over the hope of democracy with Ukraine and eventual integration with Europe. And almost none of the Ukrainian speakers.
Screw that sell-out Goldman. The greatest curse I can place upon that slime is "May he get what he deserves."
Posted by: Adjoran at March 12, 2014 11:35 PM (QIQ6j)
I did learn that being an effective teacher is way more difficult than it seems, and is a skill in addition to knowledge of the material. Unfortunately our ed schools just teach socialist politics and PC speech now ... Posted by: Joewhoisalwayslatetothethread at March 13, 2014 03:28 AM (4jlYO) Hide posts from (4jlYO)
My dad worked all day and taught night classes in Engineering when I was a kid; my mom was a college professor of mathematics; my maternal uncle taught, IIRC, High School -- and I've had to train accountants and auditors many times and have been told "you should be a teacher."
I probably never will be. I might be a tutor or something -- I have no problem with sharing my knowledge or explaining things. But Gramsci has turned schools into war zones, specifically opposed to people like myself.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2014 11:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 12, 2014 11:40 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ALH at March 12, 2014 11:45 PM (btTLZ)
Posted by: ALH at March 13, 2014 03:45 AM (btTLZ)
http://youtu.be/3IZjYc8NSN4
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 12, 2014 11:49 PM (yh0zB)
Oh criminy. Now I can't sleep either, even though it's completely calm and quiet.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 11:59 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: ALH at March 13, 2014 12:02 AM (btTLZ)
Posted by: NCwoof at March 12, 2014 11:02 PM (aUQgu)
*looks at Baja*
*ponders*
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 13, 2014 12:08 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Mr_Fastbucks at March 13, 2014 12:13 AM (b67KU)
Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 12:17 AM (2bql3)
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2014 11:46 PM (gqT4g)
The best teacher I had in high school was the history teacher. Doretta Youngman, we all called her Sarge (where she couldn't hear us, of course) because she was one, in the USMC, during WW2. She would tell us "I not only teach history, I helped to make it." No one, and I mean NO ONE, acted up in her class.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 13, 2014 12:24 AM (yh0zB)
Yes, a 777 has an air-startable APU for auxiliary power, and it also has the "spinner thingy", the ram air turbine, infelicitously enough called the RAT. Although if you're down to the RAT as the only power source, things are pretty bad.
Statistically, the triple seven is an extremely safe aircraft. One of the safest aircraft in history on a seat-mile basis.
That's part of what makes the disappearance so alarming. And why suggestions of violent chicanery began very promptly.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 12:25 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 13, 2014 12:27 AM (BE73W)
2 dead MANY wounded.
I saw a brief cell video just minutes after, and the aftermath stretched for a city block!! Its on youtube, search SXSW within 1 hr.. not for faint hearts.
Cops have suspect in custody.
Link in my sig..
Posted by: JarvisW at March 13, 2014 12:31 AM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 13, 2014 12:31 AM (E7Iyp)
Text messages, ACARS, can be transmitted in burst, think Twitter, on VHF of upto 220 character length. This was how the first information was transmitted to pilots aloft on 9/11 warning of hijacked planes. IIRC the display for these messages with keypad is located on center console between the pilots.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/decoders/acars.pdf
The slang for a transponder answering an IFF query from a radar is a 'squawk.' Commercial aircraft worry about Mode 3 and Mode C. Mode 3 is the plane's flight number while Mode C is the aircraft's height. This information is what is returned to ATC. They transmit independent of the aircraft's communication systems and they can be accidentally blanked by the plane itself. They can also be turned off, there is a circuit breaker that can be pulled in the cockpit.
Rolls Royce Engine Health Monitoring system transmits its data either SATCOM or via ACARS. Total size of the data sent is 3KB per transmission.
http://tinyurl.com/oh3atgp
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 12:41 AM (23VXG)
The other nite, Alton, three yoots followed (18 or 19) me out of the supermarket. 11:30 or so on an empty parking lot. I was parked in a handicapped slot, walked with a cane (I'm 65). They turned toward me, about ten yards away.
Up to no good, methinks.
Normally I pack (I've got a CCW and live in a SYG state), No gun this evening. But I reached under my coat, as if I wore a shoulder rig, and gave the group the 'ol stinkeye.
Their eyes got big as dinner plates and they took off 180 degrees away from me at a high rate of speed.
Coulda beat 'em to death with an inch of hickory, I guess. Next time I'll have the Glock on my hip.
Posted by: SGT Mike, RVN '69 at March 13, 2014 12:53 AM (sFYRF)
Posted by: SGT Mike, RVN '69 at March 13, 2014 04:53 AM (sFYRF)
I carry St Christopher (Glock 36) with me everywhere I go.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 13, 2014 01:06 AM (yh0zB)
Lindsay Lohan
Speaking of which, apparently she's made a list and checked it twice.
Of who she's done in Hollywood or wherever.
http://tinyurl.com/mp78tan (the Daily Caller)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 01:21 AM (LSDdO)
They just wanted to make sure you could load your bags in the car.
Modern yoot are nothing if not solicitous about caring for their elders.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 01:27 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 01:44 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 01:50 AM (r7mtu)
Arsonist sets store fire with 27 pups inside
http://kxan.com/2014/03/12/arsonist-sets-store-fire-with-27-pups-inside/
Fortunately, all pups were rescued. What the hell is a puppy boutique? Sounds skeezy. Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 05:44 AM (r7mtu) Hide posts from (r7mtu)
That is one nasty story. Everything on video, no excuses. Ick. Thankfully, all the pups made it.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 13, 2014 01:51 AM (T1005)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 01:52 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 01:52 AM (2bql3)
Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:08 AM (2bql3)
On Mar 13th 2014 afternoon Malaysia's Transport Minister said in a televised press conference, that the last ACARS transmission was received from the aircraft at 01:07L (17:07Z), there were no later transmissions via ACARS (editorial note: which effectively states a report by a single US "news" paper of the engines monitoring recording information via ACARS for 4 more hours is untrue), the last transmission received from the aircraft indicated all systems were operating normally. Malaysia's Search Control Center consulted with the NTSB and other agencies with respect to the unidentified primary radar returns and it was a common decision, that there were sufficient grounds to dedicate forces to search for the aircraft west of Malaysia. The aircraft dispatched to the location identified by SASTIND did not find anything, China did not intend to release the satellite images to the public. Malaysia is committed to find the aircraft and is going to intensify search efforts further.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 02:11 AM (23VXG)
Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:11 AM (2bql3)
Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:13 AM (2bql3)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 02:19 AM (r7mtu)
I can't tell you if those passengers are alive, but I can tell you how fast they are going.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 13, 2014 02:20 AM (xq1UY)
Yes, I did indeed go on a run with her in the big black taxi to get a client in a box.
Only, no box, gurney.
And spent several night trips going down to the city Morgue to drop off clients.
And that should wrap up the ONT.
Morning all!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, postulated outside the blast radius at March 13, 2014 02:41 AM (si68n)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 02:42 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 13, 2014 02:44 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 02:45 AM (2bql3)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 02:51 AM (r7mtu)
Evil actions from evil motives. Michael Vic was not this monstrous.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 02:58 AM (o9ypU)
MilSpec 7075 tube and all
http://tinyurl.com/n7r68un
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2014 03:08 AM (si68n)
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