March 04, 2014
Russia: Okay We're Sending You to the Crimea
— Ace I don't know if this story would be a story at all without the epilogue. A Russia Today reporter (well, "presenter") strongly criticized Russia's "uncontested arrival" into the Crimea.
This isn't such a huge deal because Russia Today is the English-language propaganda arm of Russia. It's not primarily for broadcast into Russia, but intended as an arm of pro-Russia indoctrination for areas of the English-speaking world that don't receive the New York Times.
A bit of background on the station, and the reporter:
The English-language Russia Today is widely perceived as the voice of the Kremlin, with Reporters Without Borders describing it as a "step of the state to control information."
It is often anti-American in its coverage and has been accused of ignoring a number of human rights abuses in the country, as well as controversial issues such as the prison sentences given to punk ban[d] Pussy Riot.Her bold statement contrasted with the station's usual coverage of the Ukrainian crisis, which broadly reflects MoscowÂ’s position.
In its reports it has described new Ukranian prime minister Arseny Yatseniuk as "self-imposed" and is sympathetic to the Russian-backed ousted president Viktor Yanukovych.
Miss Martin, who has previously labelled the US government's version of 9/11 as "propaganda", criticised the coverage of the escalating crisis from all sides of the media spectrum as "disappointing.. and rife with misinformation".
But even a dummy like Martin understands that the Crimean invasion is wrong.
So here's the epilogue. Here's what Russia Today says about her off-message messaging:
"We respect her views, and the views of all our journalists, presenters and program hosts, and there will be absolutely no reprimands made against Ms. Martin.
"In her comment Ms. Martin also noted that she does not possess a deep knowledge of reality of the situation in Crimea. As such weÂ’ll be sending her to Crimea to give her an opportunity to make up her own mind from the epicentre of the story."Miss Martin however told the Telegraph: "I am not going to Crimea despite the statement RT has made."
By the way, Time Magazine just reported that "not only would Russia never invade Crimea, it would also never send a reporter to a warzone just for criticizing Russia."
And then they won a Peabody.
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Posted by: zombie at March 04, 2014 11:06 AM (mizYg)
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 04, 2014 11:07 AM (PFy0L)
"Something something something ironic, calling for italicization, but all the time..."
Posted by: My Sharia Moor at March 04, 2014 11:07 AM (P9ya5)
Posted by: zombie at March 04, 2014 11:07 AM (mizYg)
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 04, 2014 11:07 AM (jlOxu)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (hn70M)
So, when he forgets to close tags we call him a sieve instead?
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (sjdRT)
What a coinkidink:
The English-language USA Today is widely perceived as the voice of the White House.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (gorVZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (h1D+w)
It's not primarily for broadcast into Russia, but intended as an arm of pro-Russia indoctrination for areas of the English-speaking world that don't receive the New York Times.
ISWYDT.
*golf clap*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (4df7R)
If only we could do that with trolls, you know?
Posted by: HR at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: toby928© notes other at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Kawfytawk at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (EY4Et)
Posted by: Roy at March 04, 2014 11:09 AM (X5/mo)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 04, 2014 11:10 AM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 04, 2014 11:10 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 04, 2014 11:10 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: tasker at March 04, 2014 11:10 AM (RJMhd)
Miss Martin however told the Telegraph: "I am not going to Crimea despite the statement RT has made."
The Onion is finding it harder and harder to still pass itself off as parody when you've got THIS kind of thing happening in the real world.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:11 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Murdered Journalists at March 04, 2014 11:11 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: General Burkhalter at March 04, 2014 11:11 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 04, 2014 11:12 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 04, 2014 11:12 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 04, 2014 11:12 AM (6H6o8)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 04, 2014 11:12 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 04, 2014 11:12 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: thunderb at March 04, 2014 11:13 AM (zOTsN)
As such weÂ’ll be sending her to Crimea to give her an opportunity to make up her own mind from the epicentre of the story."
Don't get in front of anyone is my advice, ma'am.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sick of the Snowplow Bills for the Outrage Outlet - Bring Me The Head Of Al Gore! at March 04, 2014 11:14 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Roy at March 04, 2014 03:09 PM (X5/mo)
Katrina and her waves of crap.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 04, 2014 11:14 AM (YgTB4)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:14 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:14 AM (ZPrif)
-RT Management
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 04, 2014 11:14 AM (Z7PrM)
Best Feburary I've ever lived here. The weekend "storm" was a fizzle though.
Posted by: HR at March 04, 2014 11:14 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:15 AM (hq5sb)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 04, 2014 03:12 PM (7ObY1)
Every time a bell rings.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 04, 2014 11:15 AM (YgTB4)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 04, 2014 11:15 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Kawfytawk at March 04, 2014 11:15 AM (EY4Et)
So we think a woman's views on Crimea make sense, but that what happened on 9/11 per our govt is propaganda?? Hmmmm.
And yes, she's hot as fuck.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:15 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Soona at March 04, 2014 11:16 AM (jT/qa)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 04, 2014 11:16 AM (h1D+w)
Cause there is no way at all that Greenwald is in bed with Putin. Unpossible! He's just a freedom fighter with his pal Snowden. Posted by: Costanza Defense
..........
Yes.. Greenwald is saying the US media "cheered" us into a war with Iraq, and are now hypocrites for criticizing Puting for doing exactly the same as we did.
What a putz.. but he's trying to make a splash in his new job.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 04, 2014 11:16 AM (Z7PrM)
Posted by: flounder at March 04, 2014 03:15 PM (Kkt/i)
He can do a special report about how wonderful it is to be a Ukrainian who, until very recently, wasn't allowed to own a gun.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:16 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: JEM at March 04, 2014 11:16 AM (o+SC1)
That storm produced some nasty ice. I got stuck in Nashville for a day because of it.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 04, 2014 11:16 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 04, 2014 11:16 AM (yU1Dt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:17 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Random Billionaire at March 04, 2014 11:17 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 03:16 PM (gmeXX)
Balding and probably impotent?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:17 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 04, 2014 11:18 AM (3ZtZW)
http://is.gd/3XjtMs
Posted by: HR at March 04, 2014 11:18 AM (ZKzrr)
It was snowing in Kiev last night. Posted by: Nip Sip
...........
The Weather Channel has announced all new named storms will be Russian names until further notice.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 04, 2014 11:18 AM (Z7PrM)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 04, 2014 11:18 AM (aq/zi)
Posted by: Oschisms at March 04, 2014 11:19 AM (y9dfJ)
Posted by: Killerdog at March 04, 2014 11:19 AM (fMTEA)
Posted by: B at March 04, 2014 11:19 AM (VC56G)
Posted by: JEM at March 04, 2014 11:19 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:19 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: Mama AJ, just back from the movies at March 04, 2014 11:19 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 04, 2014 11:19 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:20 AM (zfY+H)
"...intended as an arm of pro-Russia indoctrination for areas of the English-speaking world that don't receive the New York Times."
If that doesn't deserve a Peabody, I don't know what does.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 04, 2014 11:20 AM (TOk1P)
I'm backing thunderb's point here.
To all of you who say Russian's actions in the Crimea are wrong, I ask: Why?
Are we freer here? We may just be better at statist power than the soviets.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:20 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:20 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 04, 2014 11:20 AM (yU1Dt)
Posted by: toby928© notes other at March 04, 2014 11:20 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 04, 2014 03:18 PM (aq/zi)
Give it #twoweeks
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:21 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:21 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: JEM at March 04, 2014 11:21 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Russia Strong!! at March 04, 2014 11:21 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Kawfytawk at March 04, 2014 11:23 AM (EY4Et)
You know the funny thing about RT?
Its more honest than our own MSM. Sure, its a continuum, sliding scale kind of thing, but still the propaganda isn't so fucking obvious and they actually cover what the MSM doesn't.
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 04, 2014 11:23 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 04, 2014 11:23 AM (yU1Dt)
Posted by: toby928© notes other at March 04, 2014 11:23 AM (QupBk)
I'm backing thunderb's point here.
To all of you who say Russian's actions in the Crimea are wrong, I ask: Why?
Are we freer here? We may just be better at statist power than the soviets.
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Yeah, because when I see an innocent guy getting rolled in the street, I just walk on by because, hey, doesn't impact *my* freedom.
And I really like the idea of an imperialist Russia. Makes me nostalgic for the good old days.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 04, 2014 11:23 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Get a grip at March 04, 2014 11:23 AM (EszTV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 04, 2014 11:24 AM (bitz6)
Its better than sending her to Niagra with all its global warming.
For the second time in what has been a frigid winter in the Northeastern United States, Niagara falls has come to an icy halt as the six million cubic feet of water that typically flow over the falls every minute has frozen over.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 04, 2014 11:24 AM (gorVZ)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 11:24 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: toby928© notes other at March 04, 2014 11:25 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:25 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: eleven at March 04, 2014 11:25 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: thunderb at March 04, 2014 11:25 AM (zOTsN)
Ooooo, now that's a shocka! Might as well say NBC is anti-Russian in its coverage when Brian Williams and Andrea Mitchell start yammering about Ukraine.
I can hear Poppin' Fresh saying: "In fairness, RT is sponsored by the Russian Government...."
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 04, 2014 11:25 AM (ff7/5)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 04, 2014 11:25 AM (yU1Dt)
JohnTant: The US army/some govt officers opened fire on the Bonus Army, you know veterans that simply wanted what was owed them. They were arrested for walking on the grass.
Should our government have been overthrown for that?
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:25 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:26 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: Kawfytawk at March 04, 2014 11:26 AM (EY4Et)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 04, 2014 11:26 AM (aq/zi)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 04, 2014 11:26 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 03:14 PM (ZPrif)
My brother has spent a lot of time in Russia, and he says he's seen more criticism of Putin in Russian media than of Obama in US media.
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at March 04, 2014 11:26 AM (DPMu1)
Posted by: Fred Thompson at March 04, 2014 11:26 AM (iEoiA)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:26 AM (QupBk)
Are we freer here? We may just be better at statist power than the soviets.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 03:20 PM (tVTLU)
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I can see your point and the question we should all be asking: Is Putin invading the Ukraine more of a threat to our freedom than Baraka Hussein Sotero?
Posted by: Soona at March 04, 2014 11:27 AM (jT/qa)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 04, 2014 11:27 AM (ojnk6)
Bevel:
I see you're already there. Indeed, all those who claim that we live in a free land as compared to Russia.
In fact I challenge you to do so.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:27 AM (tVTLU)
To all of you who say Russian's actions in the Crimea are wrong, I ask: Why?
Are we freer here? We may just be better at statist power than the soviets.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 03:20 PM (tVTLU)
So hey. Let's arrive uncontested in Mexico, because there are all those future Americans that we must protect from the drug cartel violence and political corruption. Do you just hate brown people? Or would that be wrong for some other reason.
Posted by: flounder at March 04, 2014 11:27 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:27 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (SY2Kh)
***
Go back and look at the Ukraine protest photos from a few days ago.
Now, count all the AKs in the hands of the protestors that they bought at their local Boris-Mart. I don't see the FedGov shipping Glenn Beck off to do his radio show on Shemya Island.
We have our own big problems with creeping statism here but the Russians own the patent on that shit, lock, stock, and barrel.
Posted by: B at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (VC56G)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (ZPrif)
84 -
Hmmm, I'm going to go with, she's not actually a reporter.
I think we used to call people like her spies/honey pots. I don't know what she is, but she ain't doing that job because she's good at reporty type stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: bopiddy at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (PSli5)
JohnTant: The US army/some govt officersopened fire on the Bonus Army, you know veterans that simply wanted what was owed them. They were arrested for walking on the grass.
Should our government have been overthrown for that?
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So your take is we can't say anything about Russia if we don't criticize the US government?
That's...childish. A convicted murderer can say "hey, murder is wrong" and still be absolutely correct in his statement. You seem to be arguing that hypocrisy (as seen by you) invalidates criticism.
You are incorrect.
And incidentally...the bonus army being fired on was shameful and the officers in charge if not the civilian leadership should have been punished. Severely.
Do I now have your permission to criticize Russia invading a sovereign nation?
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: wooga at March 04, 2014 11:28 AM (Q1BWs)
Posted by: HR at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (XcQUE)
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at March 04, 2014 03:26 PM
Kim Jong Il gets more crticism from the Nork press than Choom Boy gets from our media.
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (ff7/5)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: Adam at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (h1D+w)
Posted by: grognard at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Russia Strong!! at March 04, 2014 11:29 AM (ZPrif)
So their pretty much the equivalent of MSM media here in the US?
Posted by: George Orwell at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (Vv4Go)
>>>Oh, the Stalinist Greenwald has held up this RT chick's criticism as proof Russian media is actually freer than American media.
They are.
They can criticize the Lightbringer all they want and nobody fires em or sics the IRS on em or hacks their computers
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (ZshNr)
Or some relative of theirs. "My son played a Russian in a movie, so I know what I'm talking about here..."
Honestly, that would be one of the hardest things I'd have putting up with in congress, sitting through these kind of things without just going off on them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (zfY+H)
The US army/some govt officersopened fire on the Bonus Army, you know veterans that simply wanted what was owed them. They were arrested for walking on the grass.
Should our government have been overthrown for that?
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How is that relevant to the situation in Ukraine? Maybe if the Canadians had come across the border and grabbed New Hampshire....
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (sBUAE)
Posted by: eleven at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (XcQUE)
Posted by: JEM at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: thunderb at March 04, 2014 11:30 AM (zOTsN)
To all of you who say Russian's actions in the Crimea are wrong, I ask: Why?
Are we freer here? We may just be better at statist power than the soviets.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 03:20 PM (tVTLU)
Are you just completely forgetting that we aren't talking about Russia, we're talking about Russia marching into Crimea -- which is under Ukrainian authority -- and taking it over? The situation in Ukraine isn't about the Russian media. It's about one country invading the sovereignity of another on trumped up charges.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:31 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:31 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:31 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Russia Strong!! at March 04, 2014 11:31 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:32 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 11:32 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:32 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:32 AM (QupBk)
147Two Olympic cities were bombed less than ten years after the games.
We're now eating 47% more kale than in 1998
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 04, 2014 11:32 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 04, 2014 11:32 AM (0FSuD)
All I'm saying is that nothing is black and white, and certainly not this situation. Not at all.
Why is the EU better than Russia?
The EU, not individual countries like Germany or France in the EU. But the actual Union.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:33 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 04, 2014 11:33 AM (hn70M)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:33 AM (hq5sb)
Posted by: thunderb at March 04, 2014 11:33 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 04, 2014 11:33 AM (nfBpn)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 04, 2014 03:30 PM (sBUAE)
We'da boxed their ears, lousy hosers!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jen at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (3wFh7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (t3UFN)
Clinched no doubt, by their KGB handler stealing it before the trip was through. I took Russian in high school and the teacher there used to take students on trips there every few years. He told the story once of a trip he took where at the end he took his handler to a "tourist only" store and bought him a samovar. The KGB guy couldn't go in there, and couldn't buy that kind of stuff, it just wasn't available to him.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 03:29 PM (XcQUE)
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Quite frankly..... fuck you in the fucking fuck hole you smug fucker. There are plenty here.... myself included.... that have kids in the service.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Russia Strong!! at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (4yFKY)
I think he's talking about the Ukranian government being overthrown by the protestors.
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Ok, I can see the argument that the protesters went over the line, but when Russia came it the game changed.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (sBUAE)
Posted by: joncelli at March 04, 2014 11:34 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Lauren at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 03:32 PM (zfY+H)
THIS x the highest number in the universe.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (4df7R)
It is often anti-American in its coverage and has been accused of ignoring a number of human rights abuses in the country
Challenge accepted.
Posted by: MSM at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 04, 2014 11:35 AM (R8hU8)
Michael Savage is a red meat tosser. His whole schtick is to say offensive or outrageous things loudly, play a bumper of heavy metal music, then get calls by pissed off and crazy people. His show sucks.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:36 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:36 AM (hq5sb)
Posted by: Fritz at March 04, 2014 11:36 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 04, 2014 11:36 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:36 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 04, 2014 11:36 AM (Lrldw)
Posted by: Mooch at March 04, 2014 11:37 AM (611Rk)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:37 AM (QupBk)
MWR:
Who is the Ukranian authority? Wasn't Victor democratically elected?
There were no replacement elections, were there? In the muzzie world I don't care. But Victor hadn't engaged in any atrocities against his own people.
And yet here we are saying fuck democracy and somehow the interim govt now has total say and how dare it's 5 day old sovereignty be questioned by, you know, a country with significant fucking assets int his topsy turvey country.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:37 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 04, 2014 11:37 AM (8/DeP)
All I'm saying is that nothing is black and white, and certainly not this situation. Not at all.
Um, yeah it is.
Ukraine = sovereign nation
Russia = invaded them
That's about as black and white as it gets.
If Canada were to suddenly decide it was interested in strengthening it's economic ties with, say, china, rather than us, would we march into Toronto? Considering that's exactly what they've intended to do since we nixed the Keystone Pipeline, the answer to that is "no."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:38 AM (4df7R)
174 -
So... more like Tokyo Rose, only she's parked in DC.
I would suggest that's somewhere on the spectrum, if not exactly what we would call a spy.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 04, 2014 11:38 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 03:29 PM (XcQUE)
Criticizing the actions of Russia = Advocating for a Russian-American War.
You sir, are an imbecile.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sick of the Snowplow Bills for the Outrage Outlet - Bring Me The Head Of Al Gore! at March 04, 2014 11:38 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: thunderb at March 04, 2014 11:38 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: prescient11
Except for the people shot and killed by snipers.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 04, 2014 11:38 AM (hn70M)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 04, 2014 11:38 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:39 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 04, 2014 11:39 AM (4yFKY)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 11:39 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:39 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: alwyr at March 04, 2014 11:39 AM (V0j3u)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 11:39 AM (Aif/5)
Unless you're one of the 82.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 04, 2014 11:40 AM (hn70M)
Posted by: Pfizer at March 04, 2014 11:40 AM (0FSuD)
That's debatable. There were no mass graves, but he was systematically looting the country, stole the election, and jailed his opposition.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:40 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:40 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 03:35 PM (Kz9dH)
Yes. Ukrainian law. They are part of the Ukraine, just like Puerto Rico is part of the US. Spain doesn't get to march in and say, "We want this back now, bye," anymore than Russia gets to do so with Crimea.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:40 AM (4df7R)
Nah I doubt it. Poland is not the strategic buffer it once was. Missiles and planes now fly over places like that. But it would have been nice to put an Anti-Missile system in there when we had the chance but obama, being the smartest man in the room, thought he knew betterPosted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:40 AM (t3UFN)
I'd be ashamed if the whole world knew I was fucking such a douchnozzle... *srednop*
Posted by: HR at March 04, 2014 11:40 AM (ZKzrr)
I give up. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
So is there any situation in which a person should feel shame?
(I mean, other than than committing a Lefty-defined thoughtcrime, such as denying AGW or thinking young women should pay for their own contraception).
Posted by: Lizzy at March 04, 2014 11:41 AM (aq/zi)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 11:41 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 03:25 PM (tVTLU)
Yes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2014 11:41 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 04, 2014 11:41 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:42 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: thunderb at March 04, 2014 11:42 AM (zOTsN)
AmishDude to the white courtesy phone...
Posted by: HR at March 04, 2014 11:42 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:42 AM (hq5sb)
That is ... stupid.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 03:36 PM (ZPrif)
True, our media is more free, but that is not the same as "more objective".
Our media freely chooses to be the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at March 04, 2014 11:43 AM (DPMu1)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 04, 2014 11:43 AM (ZshNr)
Only by the people who thought onesie boy was a good representative for Obamacare.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:43 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Lauren at March 04, 2014 11:43 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Eyewitness at March 04, 2014 11:43 AM (EszTV)
Posted by: Ohio National Guard at March 04, 2014 11:43 AM (Lrldw)
Stupid slide show ... it's actually pic 9/31 I was referencing. As usual, it's not really funny if you have to explain it.
Good, because the linked pic was from Carneval and didn't show any boobehs. You were going to be called for a major infraction.
Posted by: The AoSHQ Style Manual at March 04, 2014 11:43 AM (A0sHn)
And what possible interest could Russia have in the EU plutocrats BUYING control of a country right on the Russian Border... part of which has historically been Russian... and would cut them off from their warm water port...
Where was it ever said that Russia would lose it's ports?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:44 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:44 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 11:44 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Eyewitness at March 04, 2014 11:44 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: eleven at March 04, 2014 11:44 AM (fsLdt)
Wasn't Victor democratically elected?
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Gee, I seem to recall something around 2004, Orange Revolution or something, pointing out the voting was fixed.
And hell, Saddam Hussein was "democratically elected" but that doesn't mean he was legitimate.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 04, 2014 11:44 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:45 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:45 AM (zfY+H)
And by golly, he sure hates all the other hosts out there. Every show I've listened to so far , he throws some kind of nasty insult toward Rush, Sean, Levin, etc. within the first minute or two, while bloviating on about how he is the ONLY one who has noticed this or written that about whatever subject.
Or have I misjudged this guy by not listening for more than four or five shows?
Posted by: Jen at March 04, 2014 03:34 PM (3wFh7)
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I listened to him once. He sounds like a mean drunk. Never listened since.
Posted by: Soona at March 04, 2014 11:45 AM (jT/qa)
Posted by: Blacksheep at March 04, 2014 11:45 AM (8/DeP)
I have no game at all folks. I've commented on here for more than a year.
I remember Kosovo, I remember thinking how in the world are we bombing the Christian homeland, these same people were slaughtered for saving US troops from the nazis. When the muzzies they are fighting were all pro Nazi and would have killed our boys.
Now again, we're are supposed to bleat Russia baaaaaaddddd. EU/West goooooddddddd. I'm not so sure anymore.
And those that say go to Russia fuck off. I will likewise call you out for being a fucking coward and allowing our country to come to this state. I want to bring our freedom back. The first step is understanding what we have lost. and Russia provides an apt comparison.
Savage is good. I don't like his attacking other hosts. But he is a blood in the streets intellect which is exactly what the pussies that are running the GOPe need.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:45 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (hq5sb)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (nfBpn)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (ZPrif)
Why is the EU better than Russia?
The EU, not individual countries like Germany or France in the EU. But the actual Union.
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All I know is Richard Branson never tried to steal my Super Bowl ring.
Posted by: Robert Kraft at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 04, 2014 11:46 AM (B/VB5)
The USA has done bad things in the past, and the current administration is acting like the Chicago Machine/Tweed Ring on a drunken spree. Therefore, there cacn be no criticism of Russia invading Ukraine.
That is the concept I am seeing being pushed here (along with Criticizing Russia = Advocating for a Russo-American War) and I find those concepts to be somewhat flawed.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sick of the Snowplow Bills for the Outrage Outlet - Bring Me The Head Of Al Gore! at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: hack at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (168MX)
No, we should have been invaded by Russia then had all our rights taken away.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (hn70M)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: DPR VIII at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (Q4p/h)
I just made a phone call saying otherwise.
Posted by: Barack H. Obama, Man's Country Platinum Member at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Lincolntf
All 100% true. I don't disagree with a digit of your plaint.
However, US voters voted for this. EU voters voted for this. Our fecklessness was a choice made by the respective polities.
Time to reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 04, 2014 11:47 AM (Y/M/K)
Poland would be a very difficult proposition for the Russians.
I think the Poles have had a taste of freedom, and they like it very much, and would fight like hell to keep it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2014 11:48 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:48 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Killerdog at March 04, 2014 11:48 AM (fMTEA)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:48 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:48 AM (hq5sb)
Savage is good. I don't like his attacking other hosts. But he is a blood in the streets intellect which is exactly what the pussies that are running the GOPe need.
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He has all the international policy acumen and gravitas duly accorded to a PhD in Nutritional Ethnomedicine.
Posted by: Robert Kraft at March 04, 2014 11:48 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:48 AM (QupBk)
I'm guessing they lost more than a few guys but had plenty to spare.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Killerdog at March 04, 2014 03:48 PM (fMTEA)
POETRY.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (4df7R)
That's from Friends.
I mean someone told me that's from Friends.
Yeah, someone told me.
Posted by: Zuzu Bailey, in some messed-up alternate universe at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (jlOxu)
Posted by: Time Magazine at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (8ZskC)
By every international measurement assigned to monitor the elections it was deemed legitimate . It's just the way it is. That doesn't mean we are on the wrong side of the issue. It just means we are inconsistent.
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Yeah, the same monitors who thought Venezuela's elections were legitimate.
Pull the other one.
Posted by: Robert Kraft at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 03:48 PM (hq5sb) [/i]
I think they're alluding to Obammy's executive power grabs, circumventing congress.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:49 AM (hq5sb)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 03:45 PM (zfY+H)
Poland is a member of the EU and NATO.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sick of the Snowplow Bills for the Outrage Outlet - Bring Me The Head Of Al Gore! at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Greece's out of work Democraticaly Elected Government at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (t3UFN)
Isn't the Costanza Defense "we were on a break!!!"?
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Ross Geller, and I denounce myself for knowing that.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Take That at March 04, 2014 03:39 PM (Aif/5)
The 82nd person might disagree with your threshold.
Posted by: flounder at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2014 03:48 PM (QFxY5)
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Yup.... the Ski's would make Russia's foray into Afghanistan look like a May Day parade.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (nELVU)
Could someone please define the "Golf Clap" meme for me?
Because in my mind a "golf clap" is a light smattering of applause that occurs after a golf pro sinks a putt to end the hole.
But sometimes I think it's used for "80s Teen Comedy Clap." You know that one. It's where Patrick Dempsey (playing Ronnie Miller) in the movie "Can't Buy Me Love" does his whole, I'm fed up with the cools picking on the nerds and why can't we just all get along speech. And then Ronnie's former friend/head football jock starts with one loud clap, big pause, clap, pause, clap, littler pause, clap and everyone starts clapping.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 04, 2014 11:50 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Barack H. Obama
Have you plugged the Snowden hole, yet?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (Y/M/K)
A grieving wife calls the local paper and asks the price to print an obituary and sell a car. The obituary was $125 and the car sale was $45.
She compromised: "Goldberg dead, Cadillac for sale!"
Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (nQjHM)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (7ObY1)
I think the Poles have had a taste of freedom, and they like it very much, and would fight like hell to keep it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2014 03:48 PM (QFxY5)
Ditto the Ukrainians.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: kartoffel at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (1zhvB)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (hq5sb)
We don't leave out the important stuff here.
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (hn70M)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 04, 2014 11:51 AM (hn5v5)
Posted by: tasker at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (RJMhd)
He's got a nutritional PhD from Berkeley, and has a whole bunch of books on that topic under his real name, Michael Weiner.
I think you're right, it's a performance. I read his charitable donations even until very recently were all to very lefty people and causes.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (P7Wsr)
Yeah, that election was thrown and you can tell easily by how THE WINNER THREW HIS OPPONENT IN PRISON. Seriously people how hard is this to grok?
"Poland is a member of the EU and NATO."
Thanks for the correction. I still don't see any invasion happening, they're expensive and a last resort kind of thing.
And while Poland would fight very hard to remain free... they did that in 1939, too.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 03:46 PM (84gbM)
Hey Ivan, do you mind if I borrow this strawman? It's cold as hell and I need some kindling to start a fire.
Western Europe hasn't been expansionist since the 19th century. Giving Ukraine membership in the EU creates a financial and administrative link that is nothing more than a trade organization with teeth. Nasty, sharp teeth if you are a shopkeeper, but if you have tanks and jets and nukes....not so much.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (Ud5vq)
Hollowpoint:
10% of my bank account in Cyprus says differently. The corruption/iron fist might be more old fashioned in Russia, but I'd say the EU has the ability, just hasn't used it hard yet, to really bring down the statism.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Daybrother at March 04, 2014 11:52 AM (hnIP7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (ZPrif)
.
I just like the word "funkiness" when a technical term can't spring to mind.Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (hq5sb)
Could someone please define the "Golf Clap" meme for me?
Because in my mind a "golf clap" is a light smattering of applause that occurs after a golf pro sinks a putt to end the hole.
Posted by: Sphynx
That's how it's usually used.
The movie thing is called the 'Slow Clap.'
And that itchy one is just 'The Clap.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (Y/M/K)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (sBUAE)
Posted by: tasker at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:53 AM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 04, 2014 11:54 AM (EGfqY)
Obama did nothing while our consulate in Benghazi was attacked and our ambassador killed. An act of war committed by terrorists that Obama shrugged off as disgruntled video critics. I'd say that's a good indication that America currently doesn't have the will to protect itself let alone Ukraine.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 04, 2014 11:54 AM (aq/zi)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:54 AM (zfY+H)
279 -
This is what I don't get about all this hootin' and hollerin'. People do a lot of shoulding all over these threads...
Remember who we have in the White House. You can talk all day about freedom of the press, American exceptionalism, standing up for freedom blah blah blah.
Remember who we have in the White House.
It doesn't matter what's right.
Seriously, it doesn't. This thing is going to go down the way it does, and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
I refuse to get myself emotionally worked up, and I don't have to DECIDE how this SHOULD go. Because it won't.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 04, 2014 11:55 AM (TOk1P)
That's okay. P-Funk are timeless.
Great music. There's a DVD of a 1976 show that is just mind-blowing in its retro-coolness.
Check 'em out on youtube sometime.Posted by: Citizen X at March 04, 2014 11:55 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:55 AM (zfY+H)
After what he did to that trash can.
No thank you, I'm not that kind of receptacle.
Posted by: The Barrel[/i][/b][/s] at March 04, 2014 11:56 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 04, 2014 11:56 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 11:56 AM (84gbM)
May I have some help from the horde. Should I spend any additional time listening to Micheal Savage?
No. He's a stopped clock, but there are far better sources to listen to than him. Stick with Levin or Rush.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 04, 2014 11:56 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: tasker at March 04, 2014 11:56 AM (RJMhd)
25 million dead Russians less than a century ago disagree with you. The odds of that happening again are pretty slim, clearly, but events like that are things people tend to learn from.
Posted by: kartoffel at March 04, 2014 11:56 AM (1zhvB)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:56 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 11:57 AM (hq5sb)
Posted by: Monroe Doctrine at March 04, 2014 11:57 AM (Kz9dH)
I count 10 EU countries that border Russia.
Lotta ultracrepidarianism around here.
Posted by: HR at March 04, 2014 11:57 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Sphynx at March 04, 2014 11:57 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 04, 2014 11:57 AM (0FSuD)
Miss Martin however told the Telegraph: "I am not going to Crimea despite the statement RT has made."
In Soviet Crimea, news reports you.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 04, 2014 11:57 AM (DL2i+)
I'm not sure that Nazi Germany and the Prussians should be considered "Western Europe."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2014 11:58 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:58 AM (tVTLU)
OK, thanks for clearing the clap up for me. ;~\
Posted by: Sphynx at March 04, 2014 03:57 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 04, 2014 11:58 AM (nQjHM)
Posted by: SH at March 04, 2014 11:58 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 04, 2014 11:58 AM (xEdOF)
a) the Ukraine parliament reinstating Russian as an official language
b) Ukraine agreeing to abide by the results of an independence referendum held in Crimea after the Russians leave
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at March 04, 2014 11:58 AM (DPMu1)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 04, 2014 11:59 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 04, 2014 11:59 AM (ZPrif)
Romeo13:
BINGFUCKIOOOO!!!! Who elects the parliament in Brussels??? hmmmmmm.
Who is more free? Indeed.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 11:59 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 12:00 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 04, 2014 12:01 PM (hq5sb)
Posted by: Jim Cantore at March 04, 2014 12:01 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 04, 2014 12:02 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 04, 2014 12:02 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 04, 2014 12:02 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 04, 2014 12:03 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 04, 2014 12:03 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Boxer Rebellion at March 04, 2014 12:04 PM (Kz9dH)
That's called the "slow clap".
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 04, 2014 12:05 PM (P7Wsr)
Guy found an opening in radio and figured that he'd have the best shot at success if he pretended to be a firebomb-throwing conservative.
If he arrived on the scene four years later he would have been on Air America.
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at March 04, 2014 12:06 PM (/AHDz)
I don't disagree about the EU, but it is not going to order troops to the borders and invade Western Russia for its wheat crop.
The EU is bureaucrats, and more bureaucrats.
And I was unaware of the standing army. Can you point me to a source?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 04, 2014 12:06 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 04, 2014 12:07 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: insert rim shot here at March 04, 2014 12:07 PM (QupBk)
I dont mind Savage... He says it like it is, to him at least.. A liitle over the top some times, but always makes you think...I say keep listening to him..
Posted by: Big Swingin Al at March 04, 2014 12:08 PM (iWo0u)
Posted by: Britain at March 04, 2014 12:08 PM (Kz9dH)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 04, 2014 12:09 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 12:10 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 04, 2014 12:14 PM (84gbM)
Are we freer here? We may just be better at statist power than the soviets.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 04, 2014 03:20 PM (tVTLU)
You're going full hyperbole now. Yes, we are freer here. Obama hasn't yet been made President For Life and my vote still counts--even though the choices I'm given bite the big wazoo. An IRS audit (and I had an IRS audit two years ago) is not a bullet in the brain.
Posted by: troyriser at March 04, 2014 12:16 PM (V9ol4)
Posted by: rightwingva at March 04, 2014 12:18 PM (kCnae)
Posted by: Big Swingin Al at March 04, 2014 04:08 PM (iWo0u)
Michael Savage makes me think, all right. He makes me think I'm grateful I never heard him when I was transitioning from Democrat to Republican. His rant-a-rama style grates on the nerves.
Posted by: troyriser at March 04, 2014 12:19 PM (V9ol4)
Posted by: Daybrother at March 04, 2014 12:19 PM (vb/qy)
Posted by: leesus at March 04, 2014 12:20 PM (5d3DC)
Posted by: toby928© at March 04, 2014 12:22 PM (QupBk)
Preach it brother!
Posted by: Ohio National Guard at March 04, 2014 03:43 PM (Lrldw)
Neither was Waco and the Branch Davidians.
Posted by: Janet Reno at March 04, 2014 12:39 PM (012vu)
Posted by: wth at March 04, 2014 12:47 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Jen at March 04, 2014 01:06 PM (3wFh7)
It's snark like this that brings me back again and again.
Posted by: cheshirecat at March 04, 2014 01:23 PM (SESZj)
http://tinyurl.com/mj5jljj
Posted by: Idiots at March 04, 2014 04:05 PM (hn70M
A Ukrainian poll.
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