March 13, 2014

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— andy

In case the circumstances of this plane disappearance weren't odd enough already ...

U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours, based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777Â’s engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

Update: Of course this report is disputed, but the amount of conflicting information on this thing continues to amaze.

Posted by: andy at 03:16 AM | Comments (251)
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1 Morning.

Posted by: NCKate at March 13, 2014 03:16 AM (y7PFk)

2 why don't they tell us more about what the engine data says, speed. How is the data sent? Can it still be sent if the plane flies very low for a long time?

Posted by: Village Idiot at March 13, 2014 03:17 AM (utXSy)

3 Aliens.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 03:18 AM (xorT2)

4 So is it like the golfer's plane where everyone was passed out and froze to death before the plane crashed?

Posted by: NCKate at March 13, 2014 03:18 AM (y7PFk)

5 At this point, I half expect to find out that the plane never actually took off. Sheesh.

Posted by: In Exile at March 13, 2014 03:18 AM (mz/2V)

6 Today's celebrity birthdays: Abigail Fillmore (FLOTUS #17) Percival Lowell (24") Paul Fix (proto-Bones) L. Ron Hubbard (Xenu commands it) Lt. Cmdr. Edward O'Hare (MoH) Leslie Parrish (Olympian lover) Neil Sedaka (75 today) Sean Kenney (beeping chair) Charles Krauthammer (suicidal picks) William H. Macy (father of 2) Robin Duke (60 today) Glenne Headly (scoundrel) Dana Delany (red river valley) Annabeth Gish (mother of 2)

Posted by: Gran at March 13, 2014 03:19 AM (mw0FO)

7 Speculation that slow decompression occurred, everyone was unconscious, and it flew on autopilot. No evidence for this hypothesis.
http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/?og=1

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 13, 2014 03:19 AM (HubSo)

8 @4 Maybe. That was Payne Stewart you were referring to. A similar thing happened to an airliner about 9 years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

Posted by: Gran at March 13, 2014 03:20 AM (mw0FO)

9 Allah Akbar!......

Posted by: IrishEd at March 13, 2014 03:21 AM (D0NZx)

10 Malaysia has already refuted the WSJ article.

On Mar 13th 2014 afternoon Malaysia's Transport Minister said in a televised press conference, that the last ACARS transmission was received from the aircraft at 01:07L (17:07Z), there were no later transmissions via ACARS (editorial note: which effectively states a report by a single US "news" paper of the engines monitoring recording information via ACARS for 4 more hours is untrue), the last transmission received from the aircraft indicated all systems were operating normally. Malaysia's Search Control Center consulted with the NTSB and other agencies with respect to the unidentified primary radar returns and it was a common decision, that there were sufficient grounds to dedicate forces to search for the aircraft west of Malaysia. The aircraft dispatched to the location identified by SASTIND did not find anything, China did not intend to release the satellite images to the public. Malaysia is committed to find the aircraft and is going to intensify search efforts further.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 03:21 AM (o9ypU)

11

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.

 

I think IÂ’ve mentioned before the sexual habit of Darry Zanuck, head of Twentieth Centrury-Fox.  Every afternoon at 4.00, heÂ’d take a break, spending half an hour with a starlet who understood providing release to the chief was one of the few ways to escape the hell of endless cattle calls.*

 

ZanuckÂ’s wife, Virginia, knew all about her husbandÂ’s daily dalliances – and his more long-term affairs** – but she didnÂ’t hold grudges.  She understood the position the starlets were in, and so long as the affair had been discreet and was in the past, she didnÂ’t bar the “other women” from enjoying the hospitality of the Zanuck table.  “After all,” she once quipped, “that could cut down the available guest list considerably.”

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

 

*Zanuck’s approach was at least brisk and businesslike, as opposed to the degrading Harry Cohn of Columbia’s usual open fly and command of “Suck it, bitch!”

 

**ZanuckÂ’s marriage would eventually break apart over the exotic Bayla Wegier, whom the mogul rechristened “Bella Darvi.”  Zanuck left Virginia for her, but broke off their relationship after discovering she liked to play on both sides of the fence.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 03:21 AM (zF6Iw)

12 Hmf.  That's "Darryl" Zanuck, of course.  Got to get another cup of coffee.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 03:22 AM (zF6Iw)

13 So are we talking about the missing plane like a bunch of fucking loons from Roswell?  Or shall we talk about how Levin pointed out that Top Men were dropping negative comments on Politico, off the record of course, about David Jolly's chances because he wasn't too enamored with having Johnny Boehner as the Speaker in the future?

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 03:23 AM (YbFCe)

14 New thread and I am back.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 03:24 AM (T2V/1)

15 Relax everyone

I have summoned the others.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2014 03:24 AM (si68n)

16

Or shall we talk about how Levin pointed out that Top Men were dropping negative comments on Politico, off the record of course, about David Jolly's chances because he wasn't too enamored with having Johnny Boehner as the Speaker in the future?

 

Don't tell me that surprises you, Cap.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 03:25 AM (zF6Iw)

17 Welcome back, Vic.  How was the trial?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 03:26 AM (zF6Iw)

18 #10-- yeah, but who do you trust more, at this point? The incompetent Malaysian authorities or Rolls Royce?

Posted by: tough choice at March 13, 2014 03:26 AM (QWEYJ)

19 VIA, the Rolls Royce EHM transmits data either via satellite link or VHF in 3KB bursts using the ACARS system.
http://tinyurl.com/oh3atgp

ACARS was developed in the 1980s.  It operates a bit like Twitter.  Can send or receive messages over VHF on it.  Message length a total of 220 characters.  Plain text messages can be sent via ACARS but it is more normal for pilots and ground to send coded messages on it.  The display and keyboard IIRC are located between the pilot and co-pilot on the center console.  On 9/11 ACARS was used to notify planes in flight of the hijackings.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 03:27 AM (o9ypU)

20 Vic,

The bradford pears are in full bloom here.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 03:29 AM (V70Uh)

21 Newsbusters adds up the seconds (yes, seconds) of coverage of the FL-13 bellwether results from the Big 3 networks.
 
Total coverage time from all 3 -- under a minute.
 
http://tinyurl.com/n2w5gmo
 
The silence was deafening.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2014 03:30 AM (wNF3N)

22 Don't tell me that surprises you, Cap.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 07:25 AM (zF6Iw)



No, in a tight race I'd be shocked if those turds didn't hedge their bets, given their unwillingness to do anything other than roll over when the donks magically start finding boxes of missing ballots.  And somebody gave me a link to opensecrets dot org that pointed out that Top Men *and* the Chamber of Crony Capitalism ponied up enough jack that made Jolly competitive with Sinkhole (although I keep hearing that under Prince Reibus how much better funded the RNC is than the donks). 

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 03:31 AM (YbFCe)

23 18 Welcome back, Vic. How was the trial?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 07:26 AM (zF6Iw)



It was a child molestation case.  I am glad they did not pick me for the jury.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 03:32 AM (T2V/1)

24 tough choice.  Right now the safe answer is We Don't Know.

How about we remember a 737 that went down in 2007 in Indonesia.  Took them nine days to find it.  Very little debris on the water.  The FDR and CVR with the rest of the plane were on the sea floor. 

The final determination of cause of crash.  Flight crew distraction.  The auto-pilot disengaged and plane departed controlled flight.  And when crew finally tried to recover they over stressed the airframe and it broke apart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Air_Flight_574

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 03:33 AM (o9ypU)

25 Vic, I thought you said it was a Federal case.  You had to go all the way to Columbia for child molestation?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 03:35 AM (V70Uh)

26 21  The bradford pears are in full bloom here.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 07:29 AM (V70Uh)



My neighbor's tree is blooming.  Mine isn't yet.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 03:35 AM (T2V/1)

27 from Washington Times: The letter, by Michael Jerome McKay, alleges that he observed the plane “burning at a high altitude” while he was aboard the oil rig “Songa Mercur” off Vung Tau. He notes that the plane appeared to be in one piece. “From when I first saw the burning (plane) until the flames went out (still at high altitude) was 10-15 seconds,” he wrote. “There was no lateral movement, so it was either coming toward our location, stationary (falling), or going away from our location.” “The surface location of the observation is: Lat 08” 22’ 30.23” N; Long 108” 42’ 22.26” E,” he said. http://tinyurl.com/o49mqrc

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 03:36 AM (MhA4j)

28
Meanwhile.,over at HuffPo -- where all the real TrueCons hang out:

Dole Is Conservative, Cruz Is Not

Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) mocked former Republican presidential nominees Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney as candidates that do not stand on principle. The implication being that those men lost because they were not conservative enough.

No one who followed those presidential races, or paid even cursory attention to the exit polling, can reasonably conclude that these candidates lost because they did not subscribe to Cruz's radical brand of so-called "conservatism." On the contrary, each of these candidate's campaigns were damaged by their proximity to right-wing extremism.

David Jenkins - President of Conservatives for Responsible Stewardship

http://tinyurl.com/k6dpg57

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 03:36 AM (kdS6q)

29 Steyn continues to take the ball to the hoop over Mann, in print:
 
http://www.steynonline.com/6165/a-change-of-climate
 
... (Dr Mann holds the Nobel Prize in Hashtags)...

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2014 03:36 AM (wNF3N)

30 My neighbor's tree is blooming. Mine isn't yet.
Posted by: Vic

Well, that's not right. Your neighbor is obviously a rich one percenter. We must pass a law to make sure all trees bloom at the same time...or not at all.

Posted by: Bruce at March 13, 2014 03:37 AM (igJW1)

31 26 Vic, I thought you said it was a Federal case. You had to go all the way to Columbia for child molestation?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 07:35 AM (V70Uh)



I never did figure out why it was a federal case.  They did not specify where the act was committed so it may have been on federal property.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 03:38 AM (T2V/1)

32 Yeah, the Malaysians are saying "uh, no" about the extra four hour thingy..... The confusing thing about all of this is that their is not one investigation being conducted by the Malay authorities. Each of their particular involved entities seem to be conducting individual investigations independent of each other and then making public releases about it. No unified effort under which there is a clearing house to disseminate information so this result.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 13, 2014 03:39 AM (RoAA2)

33 As to how that plane could fly for 400 years, well I just don't have an answer.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at March 13, 2014 03:39 AM (JQuNB)

34 David Jenkins - President of Libs Posing as Conservatives for Responsible Stewardship Cocksuckerage

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 03:39 AM (YbFCe)

35 This kind of sounds like someone missed some wires.

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2014 03:40 AM (FcR7P)

36 >> so it may have been on federal property. Or crossed state lines.

Posted by: Andy at March 13, 2014 03:40 AM (vGQV1)

37 Meanwhile Navy Flt 19 is going, "Hey we are still missing."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 03:41 AM (o9ypU)

38 Mornin' all. 70s yesterday. 20s today. Make up your mind mother nature!

Posted by: Mainah at March 13, 2014 03:41 AM (659DL)

39 >> On the contrary, each of these candidate's campaigns were damaged by their proximity to right-wing extremism. Hahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Andy at March 13, 2014 03:42 AM (vGQV1)

40
And The O is waving his magic twanger again and EOing massisve changes to the American economy by fiat::

Business groups and congressional Republicans are blasting regulations President Obama will announce Thursday that could extend overtime pay to as many as 10 million workers who are now ineligible for it.

But the plan could backfire if employers choose to limit the hours of employees or cut their base pay to account for expected overtime.

http://tinyurl.com/kzkr232


Prediction - it will backfire.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 03:43 AM (kdS6q)

41 Plane disappearance?
Bigfoot.

Posted by: Racist Opposittion Party at March 13, 2014 03:43 AM (Cs2tJ)

42 the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles At 555 mph, it could have flown 2220 additional miles. Putin's got the thing!

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2014 03:43 AM (FcR7P)

43 37 yeah transporting across state lines.

Posted by: NCKate at March 13, 2014 03:43 AM (y7PFk)

44 But the plan could backfire if employers choose to limit the hours of employees or cut their base pay to account for expected overtime. If they do that, we should nationalize them.

Posted by: Maxine Waters at March 13, 2014 03:44 AM (JQuNB)

45 "10 Malaysia has already refuted the WSJ article." Why would Malaysia Airlines know more than the WSJ on this? The Journals source is Rolls Royce maintenance center in England, which, according to the article, is the recipient of the every thirty minute update. I don't know who is correct here, but "Malasia" sure as hell hasn't "refuted" anything. Disputed, maybe, but on what basis?

Posted by: MTF at March 13, 2014 03:45 AM (oKs5r)

46 If Paul Ryan put half the effort into impeaching O as he does into amnesty, there would be no problem right now.

Posted by: Racist Opposittion Party at March 13, 2014 03:45 AM (Cs2tJ)

47 http://tinyurl.com/lt2x3t8 What remains unknown overwhelms whatever tidbits of what is known. and btw, as if to our great relief (NOT): "Two of the passengers on board were discovered by investigators to have false passports, but they were apparently seeking to emigrate illegally to the West." (Seeking to emigrate illegally to the West hardly qualifies someone with a stolen identity as trustworthy. That's all anyone needs, another illegal alien whose intentions are his own, certainly not endorsing Rule of Law.)

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 03:46 AM (MhA4j)

48 It was a child molestation case. I am glad they did not pick me for the jury.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2014 07:32 AM (T2V/1)

 

Did you see the puppy arson case near the end of the ONT?  Put me on that jury and you're not seeing the sun for a long time.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 03:46 AM (zF6Iw)

49 If Paul Ryan put half the effort into impeaching O as he does into amnesty, there would be no problem right now.

Posted by: Racist Opposittion Party at March 13, 2014 03:46 AM (Cs2tJ)

50

29-

I also go to PuffHo to get my right-wing talking points.

 

/s

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 13, 2014 03:47 AM (KlVdw)

51 41
Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 07:43 AM (kdS6q)

This guy makes Chinese central planners from the 50s blush.

Posted by: 5 Year Plan at March 13, 2014 03:47 AM (QWEYJ)

52 MTF Malaysia is saying ACARS stopped transmitting.

If ACARS stopped transmitting, then there will be no more reports from the engines.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 03:47 AM (o9ypU)

53 WSJ also covered the case of a Northwest Orient DC-4, still missing over Lake Michigan since 1951. This goes back to the days of spectacular train crashes: better write a real heart-wrenching country ballad right now, because in the long run, folks, nobody really gives a shit.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 13, 2014 03:47 AM (xq1UY)

54 If Paul Ryan put half the effort into impeaching O as he does into amnesty, there would be no problem right now.

Posted by: Racist Opposittion Party at March 13, 2014 07:45 AM (Cs2tJ)



Speaking of amnesty, David Jolly is opposed to it and won a race which was supposed to be a tossup.  The marching orders should be clear but the Party of Stoopid is pretty autistic on that topic.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 03:48 AM (YbFCe)

55 47  No, I'll have to go look at it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 03:48 AM (T2V/1)

56
And actor Richard Coogan of the 1950s Sci-Fi show Captain Video has passed away at age 99.

"Captain Video! Master of space! Hero of science! Captain of the Video Rangers! Operating from his secret mountain headquarters on the planet Earth, Captain Video rallies men of good will everywhere. As he rockets from planet to planet, let us follow the champion of justice, truth, and freedom throughout the universe!"

http://tinyurl.com/k2hhd7g

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 03:48 AM (kdS6q)

57 In the long term, we're all dead.

Posted by: Maynard Keynes at March 13, 2014 03:49 AM (V70Uh)

58 (Seeking to emigrate illegally to the West hardly qualifies someone with a stolen identity as trustworthy. That's all anyone needs, another illegal alien whose intentions are his own, certainly not endorsing Rule of Law. -- It pains me to say it, since I am a legal immigrant, but even legal immigration is not proof of good intentions.Weren't the Tsarnaevs here on asylum?

Posted by: votermom at March 13, 2014 03:54 AM (GSIDW)

59 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 07:47 AM (o9ypU) That may be so, and Malaysian Airlines (are they the ones disputing the RR report, or is it the Malay government?) might be correct. But the report is out there and until Rolls Royce comes out officially and says the WSJ got it wrong I'd tend to think a reader would want to keep an open mind on this one.

Posted by: MTF at March 13, 2014 03:54 AM (oKs5r)

60 Hey guys! Remember that free phone I gave you to buy your votes? Well maybe you should turn it off so that you can pay the $350/mo. for Obamacare. Oh yeah, better unhook your cable too. That ought to zero out that $350 right? So get on your phone, call the folks at ACA, get covered, then turn off your phone and cable and internet too. Oh yeah internet. But wait! Keep your internet on until you get covered and then turn it off. It's just a matter of prioritizing your bills. And see? $350 doesn't look that bad anymore now, does it? --- FROTUS

Posted by: Dr. Manbube at March 13, 2014 03:54 AM (/QjPQ)

61 I am so surprised at how Paul Ryan has turned out to be someone I'm glad didn't get elected.

He's got more crazy in him than expected.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 03:55 AM (LSDdO)

62 Malaysia is a third-world country.  I would not expect their govt. to be anywhere near as competent as ours.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 03:55 AM (V70Uh)

63 When news first broke of the missing Boeing, I wondered aloud of the political-economic ramifications, international power plays; whether creating or using the incident in order to facilitate a stronger hold by either China or US trade alliances. Treaties have been and are being drawn. (Now, Vietnam "ally" of the US against China, example. Another thread, the burning ironic tragedy of interventionist US Wars.) With current treaties in mind, consider what China might be up to distributing disinformation in this case. Also, who would willingly share intelligence with whom. And it seems wise for Malaysia to turn to the non-aligned regional India for naval and intelligence assistance. == "Malaysia says no evidence missing plane flew hours after losing contact" March 13, 7:36 a.m. Reuters http://tinyurl.com/lt2x3t8 WRONG IMAGES On the sixth day of the search, planes scanned an area of sea where Chinese satellite images had shown what could be debris, but found no sign of the airliner. Hishammuddin said the images were provided accidentally. "The Chinese government neither authorized nor endorsed (putting it on a website)," he said. "The image is not confirmed to be connected to the plane." It was the latest in a series of false signals for the Boeing 777-200ER, adding to the confusion and agony of the relatives of the passengers. As frustration mounted over the failure to find any trace of the plane, China heaped pressure on Malaysia to improve coordination in the search. Around two-thirds of the people aboard the lost plane were Chinese. Premier Li Keqiang, speaking at a news conference in Beijing, demanded that the "relevant party" step up coordination while China's civil aviation chief said he wanted a "smoother" flow of information from Malaysia, which has come under heavy criticism for its handling of the disaster. If the military radar signal cited by air force chief Rodzali Daud was the missing plane, the aircraft would have flown for 45 minutes and dropped only about 5,000 feet in altitude since its sighting on civilian radar in the Gulf of Thailand. That would mean the plane had turned sharply west from its original course, travelling hundreds of miles over the Malay Peninsula from the Gulf of Thailand to the Andaman Sea to a point roughly south of Phuket and east of the tip of Indonesia's Aceh province and India's Nicobar island chain. Indonesia and Thailand have said their militaries detected no sign of any unusual aircraft in their airspace. Malaysia has asked India for help in tracing the aircraft and New Delhi's coastguard planes have joined the search.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 03:56 AM (MhA4j)

64 The bradford pears are in full bloom here.

--

Here, too.  They're such pretty trees, especially when they bloom...but I could do without the smell of the blossoms.  Reminds me of a zoo.  I go running at a location that's loaded with Bradford Pears.  I honestly get nauseated by the smell. 

Posted by: Lady in Black, reading from the bottom up at March 13, 2014 03:56 AM (22bm2)

65 Posted by: Dr. Manbube at March 13, 2014 07:54 AM (/QjPQ)

You're just being silly now.

The free phone program was started before Obama. It's risen because so many have had contact with their local welfare office (because of the loss of jobs due to the poor economy) and found out about it.

The phones you get for free are basic and simple. 250 minutes a month. If you want an upgrade you have to start paying for the phone. (not expensive but not free and not a smart phone)

So let's be sensible here, this isn't The Daily Kos. M'kay?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 03:59 AM (LSDdO)

66 Morning!  I got nuthin...  It's mid-March, 9 degrees and 4 inches of new snow on the ground yesterday.

North America has seen record low temps for the last six months.. if those muther f*ckers at NASA dare to claim this another year of warming, I'm gonna find Hansen and shove a two foot icicle up his ass.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2014 03:59 AM (b/lt+)

67 "Meanwhile, Malaysia’s acting Transport Minister, Hishammuddin Tun Hussein, flatly rejected a report from The Wall Street Journal claiming U.S. investigators suspect the plane flew for as long as four hours — possibly hundreds of miles — after it lost contact with ground control. The Journal, citing “two people familiar with the details,” said data automatically downloaded from the plane’s Rolls Royce Trent 800 engines as part of a maintenance program continued to reach the ground for four hours after the flight went off radar. “Those reports are inaccurate,” said Hussein. He said the last transmission of data from Flight 370 came prior to the loss of the plane’s signal on radar and communications with the crew, and indicated “everything was normal.” “As far as Rolls Royce and Boeing are concerned, those reports are inaccurate,” said Hussein." The Malaysian Transport Minister is denying it and saying that officially Boeing and RR are as well. The report is coming from "others." I tried to post the link to Drudge but too many strings. Don't know how to use "tiny URL" either. In fact, don't even know what the Hell it is.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 13, 2014 04:00 AM (RoAA2)

68 Well, it did have a happy ending.  I was worried there for a bit.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 04:01 AM (T2V/1)

69 bradford pears, aka sperm trees?

Posted by: Mainah at March 13, 2014 04:01 AM (659DL)

70 "I am so surprised at how Paul Ryan has turned out to be someone I'm glad didn't get elected." What did it for me was those goofy weight lifting/workout pics.

Posted by: freaked at March 13, 2014 04:01 AM (JdEZJ)

71 Gmornin' all ! I gotta say that I really don't care all that much about this airliner thing, lots of bigger and closer-up problems on my planet, thankyouverymuch. That said, I do find it encouraging that the Global Panopticon seems to be getting such a noisy signal .... kind of a far cry from the No-Sparrow-Shall-Fall image that the Powers That Be like to portray. Ha ha ! (thank you, Nelson Muntz)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 13, 2014 04:01 AM (+jyzN)

72 Well I looked at that Politico piece, Captain, there was only one person, stupid enough to put their name on it, Mike Fasano, and yes he has left no doubt.

Posted by: Corolianus Snow at March 13, 2014 04:03 AM (Jsiw/)

73

@60-"Malaysia is a third-world country.  I would not expect their govt. to be anywhere near as competent as ours."-Grampa Jimbo

 

Bwahahahahaha!

Posted by: Case at March 13, 2014 04:04 AM (9mWut)

74 There was the Helios 737 crash that was similar to the golfer's death.

Previous crew complained about a possible door seal issue.  So ground crew did a pressurization check but to do that required the system to be switched to Manual.  Mechanic forgot to put it back to Automatic.  Then flight crew running through the check lists missed the switch setting three times.  So as the plane passed 10,000ft the crew received a cabin pressure audible alarm but mistook it for a ground only alarm.  They were in contact with ground and mechanic asked them to see if switch was in Manual or Automatic but pilot ignored it.  Crew and passengers lost consciousness and plane continue to Greece.  Greek Air Force sortied F-16s to intercept the plane when no one could raise the crew.  The fighter pilots saw crew slumped over.  Then just as one of the cabin attendants reached the cockpit, both engines failed in succession due to fuel starvation.  The 737 crashed into a hill with no survivors.

So the Helios event is unlikely to have happened here.  It is not a sudden event that would instantly incapacitate the crew.


MTF I am simply pointing out how the systems work.  If Malaysia is right that ACARS stopped transmitting when they say it did, then Rolls Royce could not receive any data from the engines. 

I have also repeatedly said We Don't Know.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:04 AM (o9ypU)

75
Credit reporting company Experian was duped into giving out 200 million peopleÂ’s records to some random Vietnamese guy:

http://tinyurl.com/mwuujcb

and what credit reporting company is being used in the Obamacare marketplace?

http://tinyurl.com/l3bmfwk

Top people.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 04:05 AM (kdS6q)

76

Makin' a livin' the old hard way

Takin' and givin' day by day

I dig snow and rain and the bright sunshine

Draggin' the line

Draggin' the line

Posted by: that 70s earworm at March 13, 2014 04:05 AM (3ZtZW)

77

Posted by: that 70s earworm at March 13, 2014 08:05 AM (3ZtZW)

 

You, sir, are worse than Hitler.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 04:07 AM (zF6Iw)

78 Well, I'm diggin' snow

Posted by: that 70s earworm at March 13, 2014 04:08 AM (3ZtZW)

79 The three main parties have brought Ukip upon themselves. It is the product less of specific policy issues than with deep-seated contempt for what the public see as the pampered, identikit members of the political class. A new YouGov poll shows how these feelings have driven Ukip's surge: 73 per cent of its supporters think that never having had a "real" job outside the worlds of national politics, think tanks, journalism or local government before becoming an MP is "unsuitable in a leading politician". And 54 per cent of Ukippers think that going to Eton and not understanding how normal people live makes someone undesirable to be a politician. Ukip voters are also more likely than anyone else to look disapprovingly upon MPs who have worked im investment banks or benefited from "connections" to enter politics. This will all be news to those who still indulge the myth that Ukip are just a bunch of disgruntled Tory toffs.

Posted by: Frank Underwood at March 13, 2014 04:08 AM (e8kgV)

80 I'm sticking with my Rapture theory.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 04:09 AM (sdi6R)

81 Rickl - Raptors on the Plane???

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:10 AM (o9ypU)

82 munchmunchmunch

Posted by: The Langoliers at March 13, 2014 04:10 AM (QupBk)

83 Good morning all

Today is K9 Veterans Day:

"March 13, 1942 is the official birthday of the United States K9 Corps, and so it seems only right to annually honor their service on that date. They served to save, and they deserve to be remembered. "

http://k9veteransday.org/

So remember our four footed veterans!

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 13, 2014 04:10 AM (OtQXp)

84

I'm sticking with my Rapture theory.

 

Can't be.  Mrs. P is still here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 04:10 AM (zF6Iw)

85 There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Malaysian Airplane Zone.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 13, 2014 04:11 AM (ee9LE)

86 sounds like a simple hi jack

Posted by: sven10077 at March 13, 2014 04:11 AM (lma+o)

87 Everyone moved to one side to admire the sunset and, well..you know what happened.

Posted by: Hank Johnson, Esq. at March 13, 2014 04:11 AM (JQuNB)

88 Well I looked at that Politico piece, Captain, there was only one person, stupid enough to put their name on it, Mike Fasano, and yes he has left no doubt.

Posted by: Corolianus Snow at March 13, 2014 08:03 AM (Jsiw/)



Well that's double plus ungood for Fasano, who will lose his executive parking place for a while until he can grovel enough to get back in the good graces of Top Men.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 04:12 AM (YbFCe)

89 /off earworm

Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 04:12 AM (3ZtZW)

90 morning all.

Posted by: rich@gmu at March 13, 2014 04:12 AM (3yFC4)

91 Hijack is still possible. After they strangled the parrot and the crew...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:13 AM (o9ypU)

92 David Jenkins - President of Conservatives for Responsible Stewardship

Mobys and concern trolls have a PAC?

Huh. Who knew?

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at March 13, 2014 04:13 AM (5ikDv)

93 Someone please kick SuperStormSandy Gore in the nuts next time they see him.

Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 04:13 AM (fWAjv)

94 It is an area which we call the Malaysian Airplane Zone. The Shatner knows... And greetings, Horde-like people. The American Screwedning continues apace. SNAFU, y'all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 04:14 AM (0HooB)

95 The people using Obama phones are getting free Medicade. The people he wants to give up their phones and cable are those who do not qualify for any freebies.....the middle class.

Posted by: Spring Fling at March 13, 2014 04:17 AM (i7KmQ)

96 MTF I am simply pointing out how the systems work. If Malaysia is right that ACARS stopped transmitting when they say it did, then Rolls Royce could not receive any data from the engines. I have also repeatedly said We Don't Know. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 08:04 AM (o9ypU) I agree. Too often these "people familiar with the investigation" or whatever aren't really a part of it. They overhear something or are tangentially involved and pass on info that just isn't right. If you say something with enough authority, it's got to be true, right? "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."--Otto von Bismarck

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 13, 2014 04:17 AM (QR7wx)

97 Heh. I thought whomever posted that TFG has an advanced copy of GoT was kidding. Nope.

Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 04:19 AM (fWAjv)

98 Hijack is still possible. After they strangled the parrot and the crew... That's a former captain...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 04:20 AM (0HooB)

99 The people using Obama phones are getting free Medicade. The people he wants to give up their phones and cable are those who do not qualify for any freebies.....the middle class.

--

IOW, commence the sacrificin'. 

Posted by: Lady in Black, reading from the bottom up at March 13, 2014 04:20 AM (22bm2)

100 Polly want a choker?

Posted by: J.F. Sebastian at March 13, 2014 04:20 AM (15Hah)

101 As he rockets from planet to planet, let us follow the champion of justice, truth, and freedom throughout the universe!" In many ways, isn't this Barack Obama's story as well?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 04:20 AM (7ObY1)

102 better write a real heart-wrenching country ballad right now, - Does anyone know where the love of God goes When the big plane flew for minutes or hours?

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 13, 2014 04:21 AM (ee9LE)

103 Mornin' morons. This little flight gets odder and odder doesn't it. Glad my upcoming trip is on SW rather than Malaysian Air

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 04:21 AM (HVff2)

104 "VIA, the Rolls Royce EHM transmits data either via satellite link or VHF in 3KB bursts using the ACARS system.
http://tinyurl.com/oh3atgp"


Anna

That wasn't me.

Just one of the many actual qualified Village Idiots in the world.

Ten years on the blogs, and I am still an Apprentice.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2014 04:21 AM (si68n)

105 Regarding the 2 Iranians, they look kinda gay to me. I don't think they're terrorists, probably just trying to avoid being stoned to death with cinder blocks.

Posted by: Cat-Snatch-Beavaar at March 13, 2014 04:21 AM (cquH6)

106
So let's be sensible here, this isn't The Daily Kos. M'kay?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


What started out as an effort by President Reagan to help poor people in rural areas have a phone in cases of emergency has mushroomed into what critics suspect is a new welfare program.

"The cost has gone from $143 million a few years ago to $2.2 billion today," Republican Louisiana Sen. David Vitter said, noting that today's cost is 15 times what it was.

And Vitter adds, "The FCC, itself, said in a recent year there were 270,000 beneficiaries that had more than one of these subsidized cellphones. That's completely against the law right there."

The FCC told lawmakers the top five companies can't verify the eligibility of 41 percent of those who get phones.

Foxnews

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 04:22 AM (kdS6q)

107 After a while, you've watched enough TV.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 04:22 AM (0HooB)

108 Bloomberg is Conservative, Cruz is Not.

Posted by: HuffPo! - Your Official Guide to Conservativism [/i] [/b] at March 13, 2014 04:22 AM (5ikDv)

109 Thanks for the clarification VIA.  Reading comprehension, how does that work again?? 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:23 AM (o9ypU)

110 Still a total mystery. 6 days and not a trace. Hard to support any of the earlier theories that they were able to land as part of a theft/hijacking plot. Long time to be holding/feeding 239 hostages without making a ransom demand.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 04:25 AM (ZshNr)

111 I'll guarantee stability in the Ukraine in exchange for the vodka concession.

Posted by: Nucky Thompson at March 13, 2014 04:26 AM (JQuNB)

112 Egypt Air Flt 990.  RSO Gameel managed to turn the CVR off a couple times and the Captain kept turning it back on.  Gameel would also be recorded on the CVR saying "Allah" a few times as he drove the 737 into the water after shutting the engines off thus preventing the Captain from saving the situation.

Though if you ask Egypt for cause of the crash, they blame a mechanical malfunction of the 737 for it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:27 AM (o9ypU)

113 Glad my upcoming trip is on SW rather than Malaysian Air

I'd skip Egypt Air, too. Or any airline who hires pilots with either first, middle, or last name of Mohammed.

Posted by: Ugg Boots at March 13, 2014 08:23 AM (oGrEy)



Don't forget Asiana Air who shut down SFO by turning cartwheels on the runway.  Fucking idiots.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 04:27 AM (YbFCe)

114 Posted by: that 70s earworm
 
Thanks for earning us another 2000 years in purgatory you ass.

Posted by: Tommy James and the Shondells at March 13, 2014 04:27 AM (wNF3N)

115 "Thanks for the clarification VIA. Reading comprehension, how does that work again?? "


You?


How 'bout me.

I'm sitting there reading the comment going "When the hell did I post that?"


You know you're getting older when your own assumption is that you forgot that you did something.


Now, I need to go up stairs for a few.
I think I may have soiled myself.

BRB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 13, 2014 04:27 AM (si68n)

116 Drudge link reporting Hillary "trouncing" GOP in Iowa.  Can we please take away any early importance from the grip of that state? 

Posted by: Lady in Black, reading from the bottom up at March 13, 2014 04:28 AM (22bm2)

117 Merkel's making claims of "massive consequences" over the Ukraine.

Oh, honey. If we can ignore our agreement with them, surely we will wait until Vlad sends some tanks through the Fulda Gap before we send boots over to back your play.

The German Army's good but they ain't THAT good.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 04:28 AM (LSDdO)

118

Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:20 AM (7ObY1)

 

Hey, how'd it work out for you yesterday?

Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 04:28 AM (3ZtZW)

119 Lincol;ntf a 727 and pilot were literally stolen out of an airport in Africa.  The pilot and plane have never been seen again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:28 AM (o9ypU)

120 Mornin' Morons. Stoopid gastrointestinal bug has me sidelined, drove me nuts last night, so my first sick day in four years gets taken. I just want the damn thing gone...but isn't that the story of Obama, too...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, finally crawling out of the sock drawer at March 13, 2014 04:29 AM (m9V0o)

121 oops bbl

Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 04:29 AM (3ZtZW)

122 Have you guys seen this? We're the photos of the two false passport Iranians photoshopped? http://tinyurl.com/odgm23c

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 13, 2014 04:29 AM (ee9LE)

123 "March 13, 1942 is the official birthday of the United States K9 Corps, and so it seems only right to annually honor their service on that date. They served to save, and they deserve to be remembered. " http://k9veteransday.org/ So remember our four footed veterans! Sa lute! // Hee Haw Cornfield Cast

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 04:29 AM (xorT2)

124

This 777 thing sounds like it's from a Clive Cussler novel, Treasure I think.

 

In that book, there was an assassin who impersonated the pilot, locked the cockpit and killed the rest of the flight deck crew, then set the autopilot to fly the plane 180 degrees away from its filed course so it would disappear in the arctic.  He then parachuted out of the plane via a maintenance hatch in the cockpit and was picked up by an accomplice.  The idea was the plane (and the target of his assassination) would just disappear in what looked like an accident of some kind.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 13, 2014 04:29 AM (PFy0L)

125 Lincol;ntf a 727 and pilot were literally stolen out of an airport in Africa. The pilot and plane have never been seen again. I remember hearing about another case where the airliner turned up later in rather shady hands. Enough to make you worry...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, finally crawling out of the sock drawer at March 13, 2014 04:29 AM (m9V0o)

126 60. Malaysia is a third-world country. I would not expect their govt. to be anywhere near as competent as ours. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 07:55 AM (V70Uh) deja vu, no? Hm, US Government "competent" heh. That explains everything. And nothing. http://tinyurl.com/ljvebvt Malaysia is as "modern" a former British colony as any. http://tinyurl.com/ljvebvt With its natural resource trade in agriculture, GOLD, rubber and tin, Malaysia has never been considered a poor backwater. It boasts a rich culture, a high civilization attained as Hindis, since capitulated to Islamic conversion begun by a King's marriage to his Muslim Indonesian bride, taking hold in Malaysia during the 15th-16th centuries (coinciding with the European Renaissance). Comparing smaller governments vs. too big to fail monstrosities? The US Constitutional Republic functioned as such while a smaller government. No longer given the "more biggest is bestest" obscene authoritarian governance. Third World status? "The Southeast Asian country experienced an economic boom and underwent rapid development during the late 20th century and has GDP per capita of $17,200 today, to be considered a newly industrialized country. Since it became independent in 1957, Malaysia's economic performance has been one of Asia's best. Real gross domestic product (GDP) grew by an average of 6.5% per year from 1957 to 2005. Performance peaked in the early 1980s through the mid-1990s, as the economy experienced sustained rapid growth averaging almost 8% annually. High levels of foreign and domestic private investment played a significant role as the economy diversified and modernized. Once heavily dependent on primary products such as rubber and tin, Malaysia today is a middle-income country with a multi-sector economy based on services and manufacturing. Malaysia is one of the world's largest exporters of semiconductor components and devices, electrical goods, solar panels, and information and communication technology (ICT) products." http://tinyurl.com/l8zanxc "Literacy rates (percentage of people over 15 who can read and write) are high in Malaysia, with an overall Literacy rate of 88.7%. Literacy rates are higher among males (92%) than females (85.4%)." "The Malaysian population continues to grow at a rate of 2.4% per annum. In 2010, the Malays were 60.3%, Chinese 22.9%, and the Indians 8.1% of the total population. The Chinese population has shrunk to half of its peak share from 1957 when it was 45% of Malaysia, although in absolute numbers they have multiplied more than threefold." http://tinyurl.com/mrlrvaz As for freedom of religion in the Muslim Malaysia? http://tinyurl.com/mte7cv9 The right to choose exists without martial execution, despite social pressures. Sharia only applies to Muslims. Problem being, not all Malay officially recorded by law as Muslim want to be Muslim. But as far as Islamic State Religion nations go, better Malaysia under British model than a Wahhabi Saharan Desert.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 04:30 AM (MhA4j)

127 Wonder if the discrepancy in data from the engines is due to a time zone difference between the engine's location and wherever it is sending data to.

Simple explanation, but it happens, cough, Mars Orbiter, cough

Posted by: negentropy at March 13, 2014 04:30 AM (27KAF)

128 115 Drudge link reporting Hillary "trouncing" GOP in Iowa. Can we please take away any early importance from the grip of that state? Posted by: Lady in Black, reading from the bottom up at March 13, 2014 08:28 AM (22bm2) Now that's a good one.

Posted by: GOP Establishment at March 13, 2014 04:30 AM (JQuNB)

129 Speculation that slow decompression occurred, everyone was unconscious, and it flew on autopilot.

Doesn't account for the course change, or altitude.  That wouldn't happen for long time on ER (Extended Range) aircraft.

Posted by: Paladin at March 13, 2014 04:31 AM (E1aoU)

130 Engines have/have not shed new light on story. Helpful.

Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 04:31 AM (RP55l)

131 @111

He repeated the phrase "I rely on God" over and over.

Dramatized here: http://youtu.be/V_o87T-q91c

Posted by: Gran at March 13, 2014 04:31 AM (mw0FO)

132 The three main parties have brought Ukip upon themselves. It is the product less of specific policy issues than with deep-seated contempt for what the public see as the pampered, identikit members of the political class. A new YouGov poll shows how these feelings have driven Ukip's surge: 73 per cent of its supporters think that never having had a "real" job outside the worlds of national politics, think tanks, journalism or local government before becoming an MP is "unsuitable in a leading politician". And 54 per cent of Ukippers think that going to Eton and not understanding how normal people live makes someone undesirable to be a politician. Ukip voters are also more likely than anyone else to look disapprovingly upon MPs who have worked im investment banks or benefited from "connections" to enter politics. This will all be news to those who still indulge the myth that Ukip are just a bunch of disgruntled Tory toffs.

So they are the English Tea Party, must be racist.

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 04:31 AM (Aqvh6)

133 Have you guys seen this? We're the photos of the two false passport Iranians photoshopped? Blamed it on photocopying in a rush to get the pics out. Yeah, riiight. IOW, "We have no clue, but we need to be seen doing something!"

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 04:31 AM (xorT2)

134 Morning all. Ya know those toilets on that 777 was be real foul by now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 04:31 AM (t3UFN)

135 Have you guys seen this? We're the photos of the two false passport Iranians photoshopped? I totally expected to see the London Boys there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, finally crawling out of the sock drawer at March 13, 2014 04:32 AM (m9V0o)

136 Gran I know its transcribed from the Arabic of the CVR but I give full accord to the native language term for their deity so Allah it is.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:33 AM (o9ypU)

137 I see the EPA is totally abusing the government (taxpayer) credit card. Gym memberships, child care, dance halls, theatre, charity donations, untraceable Am Ex gift cards... With a budget of over 8 billion who is going to notice the little stuff!

Posted by: Spring Fling at March 13, 2014 04:33 AM (i7KmQ)

138 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 08:22 AM (kdS6q)

Sure but that guy was acting like those free phones are smart phones on $350 dollar plans.

And yeah they're not well documented and fraud abounds.

Everyone forgets that to find fraud you have to hire people to do that and there just isn't enough money to do a good job.

Now there's some who will say; "cut all the programs" and I say right on. Before we do that, how's about we take a look at the 65 billion in corporate welfare that gets given to those that are already making a profit? Or cut some of the Farm subsidies. Or please god cut the forced usage of our FOOD to make ethanol to put in our gasoline that makes our cars run shittier and use more gas.

How's about we shut that shit down first?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 04:33 AM (LSDdO)

139 I heard about the stolen African plane, but that was just two or three guys I think. I still hold out a .01% bit of hope that they're all alive, but really can't make myself think it. Most likely scenario to me is still straight down into the sea after a catastrophic event, terror or mech. related. Of course that has holes in it, too. No mayday, no transponder signal, no wreckage, no clues at all.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 04:34 AM (ZshNr)

140 Diversity!! http://tinyurl.com/qcc93hd "College cancels diversity ‘happy hour’ after learning event coordinators intended to exclude white people"

Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 04:34 AM (fWAjv)

141 Speculation that slow decompression occurred, everyone was unconscious, and it flew on autopilot. Clearly, they were trying to escape the Langoliers...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, finally crawling out of the sock drawer at March 13, 2014 04:34 AM (m9V0o)

142 Lincolntf, actually would you believe if its about a 727 in South America.  That was a totally different 727 than the one that vanished in Africa.  Since neither plane or pilot have ever been found, the assumption is the plane crashed and has not been found.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:34 AM (o9ypU)

143 Saw on Drudge that Lena Dunham threatened to quit acting.

When did she start?

Posted by: Turnip Defense League [/i] at March 13, 2014 04:35 AM (O7Q1u)

144 >> Blamed it on photocopying in a rush to get the pics out. Yeah, riiight. Well that would account for the big white line on the "photoshopped" picture right where the two images are joined.

Posted by: Andy at March 13, 2014 04:35 AM (vGQV1)

145 Now there's some who will say; "cut all the programs" and I say right on. Before we do that, how's about we take a look at the 65 billion in corporate welfare that gets given to those that are already making a profit? Considering the corporate partner on Obozophones is Carlos Slim's empire, this would be a two-fer.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, finally crawling out of the sock drawer at March 13, 2014 04:36 AM (m9V0o)

146 127 Wonder if the discrepancy in data from the engines is due to a time zone difference between the engine's location and wherever it is sending data to. The aircraft would be using UCT/GMT/ZULU time. Rather than local time. Just to avoid such problems. The engineers would (should) be accustomed to that.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 13, 2014 04:36 AM (cHwSy)

147 135 >> I totally expected to see the London Boys there.
 
Have you no faith in Teh Horde, Brother?
 
*actually, you've been around for a while, your concern is *real**
 
(when our esteemed Host does it on a regular basis)

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2014 04:36 AM (wNF3N)

148 Or please god cut the forced usage of our FOOD to make ethanol to put in our gasoline that makes our cars run shittier and use more gas. How's about we shut that shit down first? Shutting down the EPA would stop that.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 04:36 AM (xorT2)

149 122 Walrus Rex The close up original shots are clearer, anyway. No good reason to have added legs, as if we'd imagine the young men without legs unless shown legs. We are to rest assured given the stolen ID Iranian young men MAYBE, MAYBE NOT terrorists. Two are better than one? "Law enforcement officials said Tuesday that the men who used the stolen passports were PROBABLY not terrorists. Police said both men bought their tickets in Thailand and entered Malaysia together."

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 04:36 AM (MhA4j)

150 I see the EPA is totally abusing the government (taxpayer) credit card. Gym memberships, child care, dance halls, theatre, charity donations, untraceable Am Ex gift cards... With a budget of over 8 billion who is going to notice the little stuff!

Posted by: Spring Fling at March 13, 2014 08:33 AM (i7KmQ)



I expect Johnny "Blank Check" Boehner to start sobbing about this shortly.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 04:37 AM (YbFCe)

151 Yeah, I've seen the lists of the missing/disappeared airliners, read about some of the cases. This one in Malaysia doesn't sound a lot like any of them to me, knowing as little as we do, it's still just "poof" until someone finds a piece of the thing.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 04:39 AM (ZshNr)

152 Well time to flee.  Have a good day.

Maybe Geraldo will find the missing 777 in Al Capone's bank vault.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 04:39 AM (o9ypU)

153 @137.  The EPA should be bulldozed out of existence.  They are not useful anymore, they are a burden.  Nothing but government crooks.

Posted by: Case at March 13, 2014 04:39 AM (wf3Kt)

154 UCT = UTC &@!??!$ French

Posted by: Fox2! at March 13, 2014 04:40 AM (cHwSy)

155 152 Well time to flee. Have a good day. Maybe Geraldo will find the missing 777 in Al Capone's bank vault. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 08:39 AM (o9ypU) Awesome, a prime time special the entire nation could watch.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 04:40 AM (HVff2)

156 Hey, how'd it work out for you yesterday? Hey, we got about 17 inches. Rough ride home but the worst was getting stuck in my own parking lot. Burned some rubber off the ol' tires! Dug out this morning, snow was about halfway up the doors of my car. It drifted worse in other parts of the lot, so I kind of lucked out. It's all over now, and the cities and towns are digging out. If there's one thing we do well in WNY, it's digging out! Fun fact: yesterday's total means that this winter has seen more snowfall than the past two winters combined! (stats as of the Buffalo Airport.)

Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 04:40 AM (7ObY1)

157 "The sacrifice" goes like this. Guy in my neighborhood, retired, owns his house. Taxes and utilities and insurance are just over $1000/month, for what he calls "the right to live in your own property." You couldn't rent any cheaper.

When O'Care kicks in on him next year, there will be an additional $1100/month for him to pay for "healthcare." Plus, somewhere between $5K-$10K in deductibles, up from $300 and small co-pays now. That's $18000+ a year he needs to come up with. His income is $30,000. It's not just cablevision he'll be giving up.

He'll have to move into subsidized housing to afford his subsidized "health." This is not a satisfied citizen. We're past Atlas Shrugged territory now, and well over into We The Living.

 

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 13, 2014 04:41 AM (xq1UY)

158 Have you no faith in Teh Horde, Brother? *actually, you've been around for a while, your concern is *real** (when our esteemed Host does it on a regular basis) More a matter of being cognizant of my own sins. Recall my "scoop" re the Boston Bombers...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, finally crawling out of the sock drawer at March 13, 2014 04:41 AM (m9V0o)

159 The most disturbing denial from Malaysia is their refuting they searched the crew's home(s). That should have been done by now. I don't trust Malaysia in this matter at all. Why are they denying this?

Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 04:41 AM (2bql3)

160 143 Saw on Drudge that Lena Dunham threatened to quit acting. When did she start? Posted by: Turnip Defense League at March 13, 2014 08:35 AM (O7Q1u My money is on Ace having all of that special knowledge.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 04:41 AM (HVff2)

161 It's just a matter of prioritizing your bills. And see? $350 doesn't look that bad anymore now, does it?

--- FROTUS

Posted by: Dr. Manbube at March 13, 2014 07:54 AM (/QjPQ)


*****************


I have a modest proposal for prioritization of expenditures. You have to show a health insurance card before buying alcohol, tobacco, marijuana in CO and WA, or lottery tickets. And big gulps in NYC. This the LIVs would go for it? HHS could just write the regs.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 13, 2014 04:41 AM (HubSo)

162 Is that a missing jetliner in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?

Posted by: Christy Blinky at March 13, 2014 04:42 AM (yhJhK)

163 106 Bloomberg is Conservative, Cruz is Not. Posted by: HuffPo! - Your Official Guide to Conservativism at March 13, 2014 08:22 AM (5ikDv) Weird what people willingly swallow. Huffpo preserved artificially Bloomberg obsessions unnatural "it depends" -- what is being conserved

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 04:42 AM (MhA4j)

164 Posted by: Brother Cavil, finally crawling out of the sock drawer at March 13, 2014 08:36 AM (m9V0o)

I know. Now if we had an organization that promoted the ideal of fiscal responsibility and the cutting of programs that serve no national purpose or cutting agencies that duplicate effort or that act like they are unaccountable to the People.

If we could find some group that would stand up and fight against spending for non essentials, why they might actually gain a following.

And doing so would not only put money back in citizens pockets but those rogue agencies wouldn't be making citizens lives difficult and expensive and may some jobs would evolve that those people receiving aid could become self sufficient.

Gosh suddenly, everything and everybody would start to work again.

But that's just crazy talk.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 04:42 AM (LSDdO)

165 "Dug out this morning, snow was about halfway up the doors of my car. It drifted worse in other parts of the lot, so I kind of lucked out. It's all over now, and the cities and towns are digging out" The shop fixing my sidewalk plow said they were going to work through the weekend to finish and get it back to me. So expect all the snow to be gone by Monday.

Posted by: jwest at March 13, 2014 04:43 AM (u2a4R)

166 Oh brother. Your 'mom' wants you to #GetCovered. http://tinyurl.com/opkfouz

Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 04:43 AM (fWAjv)

167 Bugger. I should work up a script to handle my socks on this site...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 04:43 AM (m9V0o)

168 I don't trust Malaysia in this matter at all. Why are they denying this? Posted by: Baldy at March 13, 2014 08:41 AM (2bql3) It's a mulsim county, why are you repeating yourself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 04:43 AM (t3UFN)

169 Dance halls?  Where the hell did they find a dance hall?

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 04:43 AM (Aqvh6)

170 Hey Horde just testing what's likely to be a new has. If I'm right I'll miss GaqMA

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 04:44 AM (HDwDg)

171 A Facebook friend just announced she left the Dem party, or to put it precisely, she says the Dems left her long ago. She let loose with some nice invective against Teh Won, and "came out" as having voted for the Repubs in 08 and 12. Warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 04:45 AM (7ObY1)

172 He'll have to move into subsidized housing to afford his subsidized "health." This is not a satisfied citizen. We're past Atlas Shrugged territory now, and well over into We The Living. Some enterprising group of individuals could make a few political points from this situation if they chose to do so. As it stands today, they seem to have no interest in the welfare of the citizens, only their own power over them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 04:46 AM (0HooB)

173 Gosh suddenly, everything and everybody would start to work again. I have a saying that's a retort to one of the standard bromides: If people are the solution, doesn't it stand to reason they were the problem? Politics and government are the avalanche's last stop. The real work is to reclaim the culture, and until we start to properly focus on what has to be done in that regard--and accept that it will likely take a VERY long time to fix--things have no hope of truly getting better.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 04:46 AM (m9V0o)

174 The most disturbing denial from Malaysia is their refuting they searched the crew's home(s).

I didn't see that, a suicide note taped to a mirror would be a decent clue.

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 04:46 AM (Aqvh6)

175 Warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:45 AM (7ObY1 Go shovel, that should get the blood flowing. And for once Western WIS missed a big ass storm. Thank you God.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 04:46 AM (HVff2)

176 Comrade! Face the telescreen! It's time for exercise!

Posted by: Telescreen Lady at March 13, 2014 04:47 AM (JQuNB)

177 Go shovel, that should get the blood flowing. And for once Western WIS missed a big ass storm. Thank you God. Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 08:46 AM (HVff2) LOL, I did more than enough shoveling already, believe me!

Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 04:47 AM (7ObY1)

178 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in ChinaÂ’s Stealth Fighter Design data on F-35 stolen in 2007 An AVIC subsidiary, the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group, used the stolen data in building the J-20, said defense and intelligence officials familiar with reports of the illicit tech transfer. The newly unveiled J-20 jet fighter / Chinese website Pentagon technology security officials in 2011 opposed a joint venture between General Electric and AVIC over concerns that U.S. fighter jet technology would be diverted to AVICÂ’s military aircraft programs. The Obama administration ignored the concerns and instead has since promoted the systematic loosening of technology controls on transfers to China. Fucking traitors

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 04:47 AM (t3UFN)

179 Oh, and now there appear to have been mini-T. Rex wandering the Arctic at one time: http://tinyurl.com/o32wzev

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 04:48 AM (m9V0o)

180 Warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:45 AM (7ObY1) Any comments on her coming out?

Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 04:49 AM (fWAjv)

181 Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 08:47 AM (7ObY1) I know you poor folks got blasted. I almost, almost feel guilty that we missed it......We are starting to see signs of spring. Another day in the 40s here, woot woot.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 04:49 AM (HVff2)

182
Re: 2016

Republican Senate leaders in Kentucky cheered a bipartisan vote Wednesday that advanced a bill to let Republican Sen. Rand Paul run for president without automatically giving up his Senate seat - but Democratic leaders in the State House warned it was not a sign the bill has enough support to become law.

Rep Sen. Thayer told reporters after the committee meeting he believes Paul does not need a law change to run for both offices. But Paul and his staff asked Thayer to introduce the bill just in case. "If the Senate does pass the bill and the House decides to kill the bill, ultimately this is going to end up in court where I believe Sen. Paul has a very strong constitutional case to make."

Foxnews

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 04:49 AM (kdS6q)

183 Iran's official IRNA news agency reported on Wednesday that Russia, not content with defying the West as it invaded the Crimea, has now made a preliminary agreement with Iran to build two more Iranian nuclear power plants. This will help blunt the effect of the WestÂ’s sanctions on Iran, as the deal entails as much as 500,000 barrels per day of Iranian crude being sent to Russia, which would boost IranÂ’s crude exports by 50%. Putin showing obama his middle finger and mooning him at the same time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 04:50 AM (t3UFN)

184

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 08:49 AM (kdS6q)

 

---------------

 

Assholes.

 

One person should only be able to run for one office. 

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 13, 2014 04:51 AM (PFy0L)

185 Was the first mate on the plane named Gilligan?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2014 04:51 AM (1Jaio)

186 The last of the six-week-old snow in our back yard melted away in Tuesday's warm spell. Six degree wind chill for the one-mile walk to school this morning. 60 degrees on Saturday. Freezing again for St. Pat's. I hate winter.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at March 13, 2014 04:51 AM (a5ljo)

187 Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 08:46 AM (m9V0o)

Until the money stops, the people won't have the incentive to work.

Until the money stops and the taxes go down and the distortions of the government in the marketplace ease off, they're won't be any place to work.

Until the money stops and the corporations have to quit rent seeking and actually produce (and are required to produce it in THIS country) they won't expand their market and they won't increase their business so their won't be jobs for people to have.

It's gotta start somewhere and with the Left having a strangle hold on the means of communication, there will never be a cultural change sufficient to force DC to take the necessary steps.

DC has to change first.

*sigh*

But most likely what will happen is that economically we will continue to implode until no one is working and the problem becomes obvious to everyone in spite of the filtration by the Media.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 04:51 AM (LSDdO)

188 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in ChinaÂ’s Stealth Fighter
Design data on F-35 stolen in 2007

So in 5-6 years we will see a Chinese Lucky 888 airliner debut that is amazingly similiar to the 777.


Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2014 04:52 AM (Aqvh6)

189 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:50 AM (t3UFN) So since the invasion has the blustery man child in mom jeans done anything? All this talk of bank assets freezing, etc Anything done? I doubt it.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 04:52 AM (HVff2)

190 Wonder if the discrepancy in data from the engines is due to a time zone difference between the engine's location and wherever it is sending data to. - In WWII when the island of Malta was under siege the Brits were desperate to get planes there so they loaded some Spitfires on a carrier, cruised as close as they dared, and let fly. The problem was that the navy figured the Spits' range in nautical miles instead of statute miles and they all ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 13, 2014 04:52 AM (ee9LE)

191 denial from Malaysia is their refuting they searched the crew's home(s). That should have been done by now. Baldy, All in all, this disappearing act has never happened before, anywhere. Were it to have happened stateside here in America, imagine the public protests demanding an answer, people going hog wild. Malaysian "spokespersons" are just getting broken in to that job description. Their experience has been in repeating official statements, and not being questioned by the DEMANDING international press to solve riddles. No doubt there are people who cave under pressure and say what they think someone wants to hear in order to get someone off their back. Bad move, that. They'd reported searching homes of their missing crew. Then the Western Leftist bleeding heart media mouths screamed "foul" since the missing crew were victims, and their families "tortured" by home search during mourning. So some kneejerk denied having disrespected families at their time of mourning. No doubt, the homes were searched pronto. Before this unprecedented incident (yuck Obama), the Malaysian Airlines boasted high ranking quality. Of course, how this incident is handled will prove their worth. The airline and the nation of Malaysia is coordinating with every other nation. Consider what a clusterfuck that must be. Best of intentions paving the road to hell and all...

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 04:52 AM (MhA4j)

192 Gotta tell ya, Rand doing this is a deal breaker for me.

This is just ego and arrogance.

Good thing we not step in it. (old cheech and chong joke)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 04:53 AM (LSDdO)

193 Putin showing obama his middle finger and mooning him at the same time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 08:50 AM (t3UFN)

I disagree.

Putin is paying no attention to Obama, because there is no reason to. Obama is unimportant, and will do nothing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 04:53 AM (QFxY5)

194 WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama will direct the Labor Department to strengthen overtime pay protections for millions of workers, a White House official said.

The directive is meant to help salaried workers, such as fast-food shift supervisors or convenience store managers, who may be expected to work more than 40 hours a week without receiving overtime pay. The proposed change is part of Obama's effort to focus on closing the gap between the wealthy and the poor, which also includes a call to raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 per hour to $10.10.





It's almost as if the fuckwit has no idea how the economy or job market works. And where does he get the authority to demand companies pay overtime? At what point does someone finally nut up and tell him he doesn't?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2014 04:54 AM (1Jaio)

195

>>>If there's one thing we do well in WNY, it's digging out!

 

Yup, doing OK here in Rochester now. Kinda touch n go for awhile but easy getting to work

Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 04:55 AM (3ZtZW)

196

The SCOAMF is a gutless pussy.

 

Good morning, 'rons and 'ettes!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 04:55 AM (DrWcr)

197 Iran's official IRNA news agency - The Iranians have accused us of being responsible for the disappearance of the plane.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 13, 2014 04:55 AM (ee9LE)

198 Dug it all out at 430am

Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 04:55 AM (3ZtZW)

199 And here we thought Bond villains and secret lairs were fiction.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 04:55 AM (659DL)

200 182 >> Republican Senate leaders in Kentucky cheered a bipartisan vote Wednesday that advanced a bill to let Republican Sen. Rand Paul run for president without automatically giving up his Senate seat...
 
If that worthless waste of wormfood McCain got to keep his Senate seat, I surely see no problem with letting Rand have a go at it LDC.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2014 04:55 AM (wNF3N)

201 Putin == Iron Man

Obama == Gnat

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 04:56 AM (LSDdO)

202 I have also repeatedly said We Don't Know. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 13, 2014 I sure as shit know nothing about ACARS or anything else about this aircraft, and I bow to your superior knowledge on ACARS etc and this report certainly falls a couple of standard deviations outside the rest of the info we've seen, so I'm inclined to think its wrong. But you're right: we just don't know.

Posted by: MTF at March 13, 2014 04:56 AM (F58x4)

203 The Iranians have accused us of being responsible for the disappearance of the plane. Well of course they have. It's parked next to the earthquake machine and the hurrican generator.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 04:57 AM (659DL)

204 Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2014 08:54 AM (1Jaio)

Obama has never held a job.

Nor even his wife. (Her jobs were sinecures where she spend all her time pretending to work and posing for pictures.  Like she does now.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 04:57 AM (LSDdO)

205 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 13, 2014 07:46 AM (zF6Iw) Puppy arson you say? WTF. Granted, I wanted to trap the squirrels around my house that are causing problems and put them down with a .22 pellet gun, but my parents said "that's how people end up on youtube." Which to me is totally insane, .22 to the head is even listed as a "conditionally acceptable" method of putting an animal down in the AVA guide. (Granted my city considers pretty much anything that fires a projectile, including arguably a nerf gun a "firearm" so there's that to contend to, since it'd be "discharging a firearm" in the city limits.) Meanwhile horde, groundhog apparently decided it wants to live under my porch: http://t.co/B8ZZWdzDLF (Link to a pic I took)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 04:57 AM (HDwDg)

206

I sometimes fantasize about what a real leader would do in the wake of this Russian shit.


A real leader who would call the Kremlin and say "Vladdy...can I call you Vladdy?  Vladdy, here's the thing.  You need the west much more than the west needs you.  If you don't play nice with us, we are going to drill baby drill.  We are opening Keystone.  We are going to frack the hell out of every deposit we can find.  We are going to renew our relationships with Europe and get them technology so they can safely jump on the fracking train.  We are going to push the price of a barrel of oil to where a schoolkid can buy it with pennies from sofa cushions.  You know as well as I do that if oil goes below $90 a barrel, you are finito, bandito.

 

We will halt any and all tech transfers...because yeah, you have your western Siberia oil fields but they are almost tapped out, and you don't have the technology to get the eastern fields up and running any time soon.  And while we're at it, we're going to put the kibosh on western capital investments in Russia - you're basically a consolation member of the BRICs anyway, and all it would take is just a small push to consign you to economic oblivion.

 

And then we're going to get serious.  We may be facing DOOM, but we can still field military deployments that will force you to spend money you don't have either to keep up - and your creditors are a lot less patient than ours.

 

So dude - chill.  Forget this Russian Empire shit and come join the rest of the world."

 

But that's just a pipe dream, alas.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 13, 2014 04:58 AM (PFy0L)

207 Another interesting thing about the EPA credit card charges is they were told that no charge should be over $3000 because that might trigger some questions or additional paperwork. The EPA was given 50 million over what the White House had requested for a total budget of 8.2 billion.

Posted by: Spring Fling at March 13, 2014 04:58 AM (i7KmQ)

208 At what point does someone finally nut up and tell him he doesn't? Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2014 08:54 AM (1Jaio) Thanks for the morning laugh.

Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 04:58 AM (fWAjv)

209 And here we thought Bond villains and secret lairs were fiction. I'm certain they've checked all the volcanos in the area by now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 13, 2014 04:58 AM (0HooB)

210 I just want to say about Mel Gibson -- To my knowledge, "We Were Soldiers" is the only film to come out of Hollywood to depict American soldiers in Vietnam behaving bravely and honorably since "The Green Berets." Those in fact might be the only two. Other movies might have had a few brief scenes of such, but they were never without explicit anti-war and ultimately anti-military and other messages to make them palatable to the Sixties lefty crowd.

Posted by: Brewdog at March 13, 2014 04:58 AM (ZgUuK)

211 $1,000 for taxes, insurance and utilities?

I am paying about $375 here in SC.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 04:58 AM (V70Uh)

212 I hate the EPA with the fire of a thousand SMODs.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 04:59 AM (7ObY1)

213 The problem was that the navy figured the Spits' range in nautical miles instead of statute miles and they all ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea. Posted by: WalrusRex at March 13, 2014 08:52 AM (ee9LE) http://tinyurl.com/lfyzn95 Rule Britannia! damned frustrating when miscalculations kill so unnecessarily your own, as if "friendly fire" from headquarters. (another instance, NASA brainfart between inches and centimeters?)

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 04:59 AM (MhA4j)

214 Posted by: @JohnTant at March 13, 2014 08:58 AM (PFy0L) Hell, I'd skip the call and just jump straight to doing all of that. It's in our nation's best interest anyway.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 05:00 AM (HDwDg)

215 It's almost as if the fuckwit has no idea how the economy or job market works. And where does he get the authority to demand companies pay overtime? At what point does someone finally nut up and tell him he doesn't? It's a tax?

Posted by: John Roberts at March 13, 2014 05:00 AM (JQuNB)

216 Oh, and now there appear to have been mini-T. Rex wandering the Arctic at one time: Was he chasing those mini Russian giraffes?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 05:00 AM (xorT2)

217
I surely see no problem with letting Rand have a go at it LDC.
Posted by: GnuBreed




I just posted the news, didn't make a value judgement.

However -- one election at a time seems fair. But then again, whatever it takes to get the conservatives into the race, cause Lord knows Team Republican doesn't hold back on using the rules to their advantage.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 05:00 AM (kdS6q)

218 Malaysia has the bumiputra system for discriminating against non-Muslim and non-Malay people, especially the substantial Chinese minority. Non-white racism, so OK.

Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 05:01 AM (sOtz/)

219 I want to emphasize again that Scott Walker delivers surpluses, tax cuts and jobs. Chris Christie consumes surpluses, taxes and jobs, all while deciding how you should purchase cars and donuts. Scott Walker for President! (Unless I get really pissed off at something he does or says, in which case its Peruvia for me)

Posted by: MTF at March 13, 2014 05:01 AM (F58x4)

220 I remember this Twilight Zone episode. The plane will eventually show up. Empty.


*The Arrival* Original air date September 22, 1961

Posted by: Something at March 13, 2014 05:01 AM (Ojgjr)

221 Meanwhile horde, groundhog apparently decided it wants to live under my porch: http://t.co/B8ZZWdzDLF (Link to a pic I took) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 08:57 AM (HDwDg) Used ammonia to force my groundhog to go find another shed.

Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 05:01 AM (fWAjv)

222 So IF the 777 were stolen what would be it's target way over there? The only one worth hitting, I mean hitting the great satan, is our Navy Base in Japan? Unless they want to hit China for some reason?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 05:02 AM (t3UFN)

223 Here was a hymn I was not famillar with, "In Times Like these you need a Savior." I like the words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2MP0E0vO1I ~In Times Like These During the fearful days at the height of World War II, this comforting hymn was written. In the midst of a busy day as a housewife, Ruth Caye Jones felt an inspiration from the Holy Spirit. She stopped her work to quickly put down both words and music. Since that day the hymn has been a blessing to countless Christians at special times of need. It has brought comfort during illness, has been used widely at funerals, has encouraged and challenged Christian workers, and has drawn many to salvation. -Kenneth W. Osbeck Mrs. Jones experienced for herself the consolation the words of the song could bring as she spent time recovering form serious surgery a few years after it was written. ++++++++++ In Times Like These (1) In times like these, you need a Savior, In times like these, you need an anchor; Be very sure, be very sure, Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock! CHORUS: The Rock is Jesus, Yes, HeÂ’s the One, The Rock is Jesus, The only One Be very sure, be very sure, Your anchor holds, And grips the Solid Rock. (2) In times like these, you need the Bible, In times like these, O be not idle! Be very sure, be very sure, Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock. (3) In times like these, I have a Savior, In times like these, I have an anchor, IÂ’m very sure, IÂ’m very sure, My anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 05:03 AM (XyM/Y)

224 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 08:57 AM (HDwDg)

Buy a HavaHart trap. When you catch one, bring it into the garage or wherever is hidden from sight and shoot it.

Repeat as necessary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 05:03 AM (QFxY5)

225 (Granted my city considers pretty much anything that fires a projectile, including arguably a nerf gun a "firearm" so there's that to contend to, since it'd be "discharging a firearm" in the city limits.) I wonder how they square the with the federal definition or physics since their is no "fire" with an airgun.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2014 05:04 AM (xorT2)

226 Buy a HavaHart trap. When you catch one, bring it into the garage or wherever is hidden from sight and shoot it. Repeat as necessary. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 09:03 AM (QFxY5) We had squirrels in the attic many years ago and used that. Caught them and I took them to your side of RT17 and released them. Near your town actually

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 05:05 AM (t3UFN)

227 Obama has never held a job.

Nor even his wife. (Her jobs were sinecures where she spend all her time pretending to work and posing for pictures. Like she does now.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 08:57 AM (LSDdO)



Too bad we don't have an opposition party with candidates to point that out, instead of just mincing around him making compliments.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 13, 2014 05:05 AM (YbFCe)

228 Yup, doing OK here in Rochester now. Kinda touch n go for awhile but easy getting to work Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Hands at March 13, 2014 08:55 AM (3ZtZW) Yeah, I see you guys got clobbered in Roch-cha-cha. My sis lives in W. Henrietta.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 13, 2014 05:05 AM (7ObY1)

229 220 I remember this Twilight Zone episode. The plane will eventually show up. Empty.<< And there will be evidence of damage on one of the wings.

Posted by: Roy at March 13, 2014 05:06 AM (VndSC)

230 dump

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 13, 2014 05:07 AM (T2V/1)

231 52% of the electorate never had a real job.  They voted for one of their own.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 05:07 AM (V70Uh)

232 217 >> I just posted the news, didn't make a value judgement.
 
Of course you did LDC -- by choosing to post that at all, you have made a value judgment.
 
In your judgement, this is important information to disseminate to your potential readers. Your fans, if I can be more precise. Your detractors have already tuned you out. Your fans or neutrals may be influenced.
 
There's nothing wrong with all this; I just like tidier labels.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 13, 2014 05:08 AM (wNF3N)

233 wtf: ever heard of this from the 1930s? America's Planned War on Britain documentary http://tinyurl.com/kjr9q7g "War Plan Red" was an American strategy to make war on Great Britain (hotbed of socialism). It was conceived in the late 1920s and developed throughout the next decade, including the idea to build air bases capable of bombing cities in the British dominion of Canada, where the US top brass intended the conflict to take place. The plan was officially withdrawn in 1939, with the outbreak of the Second World War, although it was not declassified until 1974. Peter Carlson, ed., American History magazine, former Washington Post journalist, researching in our National Archives, was introduced to Mr. Taylor of the National Archives in Wash.D.C. employed for 60 years This will make for good conversation...

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 05:08 AM (MhA4j)

234 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 09:03 AM (QFxY5) Yeah, here's the problem. I've already had one police call that ended up at my house for "gunfire" after my neighbor shot off some fireworks. I think the slightly noisy lady behind us saw me cleaning my shotgun on the back patio (listen that Hoppes #9 solvent smells like shit, I'm cleaning outside.) and now assumes I'm a "gun nut." So the last thing I need to be doing is actually firing even a .22 around here. (4 cop cars, 4 cop cars for fireworks.) Having said that, I have no problem buying a stop that will kill the thing outright. And no problem cleaning up after it (mouse worker remember?) Nor for that matter do I have a problem accidently killing the cat that seems to be stray around here.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 05:08 AM (HDwDg)

235 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 09:05 AM (t3UFN)

And then I caught them, brought them into the garage and shot them in the head with a .22 pellet pistol.

They're rats with bushy tails, and I hate them.

[Anyone have a chipmunk problem? I found a good solution]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 05:09 AM (QFxY5)

236 G'day, all. Later

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 05:09 AM (MhA4j)

237 why don't they tell us more about what the engine data says, speed.

Because the data is all proprietary to Rolls-Royce, and there's probably some Ministry of Defence protocols in there as well.

Posted by: HR needs a beer at March 13, 2014 05:10 AM (ZKzrr)

238

Morning, all!  

 

So where did US investigators get THEIR    engine    data if the data Malaysian officials checked came directly from Boeing and Rolls Royce?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 13, 2014 05:10 AM (4df7R)

239 Posted by: RWC at March 13, 2014 09:01 AM (fWAjv) The interwebs seems mixed about that. In any case, chasing him off only means he'll come back soon enough. I prefer my pests dead. In the case of deer, dead and then turned into sausage. It's part of my anti-Singer shtick.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 05:10 AM (HDwDg)

240 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 09:08 AM (HDwDg)

Pellet pistol!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 05:11 AM (QFxY5)

241 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 09:09 AM (QFxY5) Chipmunks? My parents do, and I will soon enough I'm sure. My mom has taken to putting poison in the holes.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 05:11 AM (HDwDg)

242
wtf: ever heard of this from the 1930s?
Posted by: panzernashorn



Yep.  One of the "Color" series of strategic war plans from the pre-war years.

For fun, take a look at the US Plan Orange that would have sailed the US Fleet right into where the Japanese War Plan wanted them.  Would have been a bloodbath.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 05:13 AM (kdS6q)

243 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2014 09:11 AM (QFxY5) At the cost this is racking up I can have someone remove it for me and not have to worry about neighbors calling the cops .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 05:13 AM (HDwDg)

244 Has  the  UN  blamed  the  Jews  for  the  missing  777  yet?  Can  this  really  be  called  a  serious  investigation  into  a  missing  aircraft  without  someone  somewhere  blaming  the  Jews?

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 13, 2014 05:14 AM (rXcBX)

245 President Obama is threatening to veto a law  that would allow Congress to sue him in federal courts for arbitrarily changing or refusing to enforce federal laws because it "violates the separation of powers" by encroaching on his presidential authority.

Obama also threatened to veto another bill by Rep. Ron DeSantis, R-Fla., which would require the administration to explain decisions not to enforce laws when those decisions are rooted in policy concerns rather than just constitutional concerns (which the Justice Department is already required to do).




How dare anyone question his imperial majesty's ability to do whatever in the hell he wants to


Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2014 05:25 AM (1Jaio)

246 "War Plan Red" was an American strategy to make war on Great Britain (hotbed of socialism). That was just one of the "color" plans. We also had one for Japan (Orange), Germany (Black), and Mexico (Green) among others. Fast forward a bit and Desert Storm was largely based on Schwartzkopf's planning document for war with Iraq that he wrote in the early 1980's.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 13, 2014 05:44 AM (659DL)

247 Not true about the Spits...some did get through. Google "George Beurling" great WW2 Air Ace....Aceholes.

Posted by: IrishEd at March 13, 2014 06:02 AM (D0NZx)

248 Oh, and it was "War Plan Red" because red used to be Britain's color. Remember "redcoats" and "the all-red route"?

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 13, 2014 06:19 AM (/wH7n)

249 Somebody's hiding something on the "triple seven."

Either someone shot it down, it was nuked at 35,000 feet and blasted to atoms, or it is in a hanger in China or Iran.

I do wonder if we will ever know what happened to these people.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 06:55 AM (baL2B)

250 Greetings: What's the morning line on it ending up in Banda Aceh, that infamous Islamist beach community ???

Posted by: 11B40 at March 13, 2014 07:49 AM (evgyj)

251 Count 127. Defendant Steyn has said substantially the same things or worse about the fraudulence of PlaintiffÂ’s hockey stick for many years in far more prominent publications in Australia and other jurisdictions without attracting legal action by Dr Mann. It cannot be the intent of the First Amendment that it should leave citizens of the United States with fewer rights to free speech than those of countries that remained within the British Empire.

This sounds like typical Steyn!.

Posted by: Anon at March 13, 2014 08:26 AM (PQ3tU)

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