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February 08, 2014

Margaret Carlson: Pro-Life Extremist [OregonMuse]
— Open Blogger

OK, so this article here I pulled from the sidebar a few days ago is Margaret Carlson's defense of Wendy Davis' lying lies about the narrative of her life story which is a bunch of lies. As you might imagine, Carlson's piece is a boiled-down, gooey tar pit of concentrated stupid (think of that oil slick that ate Tasha Yar), that'll lower your IQ by several points if you so much as glance at it.

But, buried deep in the dumb, there is something kind of interesting. In the midst of her defense of Wendy Davis' serial lying, she suddenly switches gears and says:

I donÂ’t agree with Davis on the filibuster that made her famous. Abortions should be illegal after viability, which is coming earlier and earlier as neonatal care improves.

Really, Margaret? You really believe there should be actual *limits* on abortion? You're saying that after the pregnancy progresses past a certain point, abortion should be illegal? That women should be *forbidden* from having them? You mean you would deny a woman her constitutionally protected "right to choose"?

Holy crap. How dare she?

So what's viability these days? 22-25 weeks? That's getting down to almost the second trimester, isn't it? That's pretty early.

So how has Margaret Carlson been able to get away with such heresy? Why hasn't she been asked to turn in her Sisterhood card? Where is the Legion of Outrage and why haven't they burned Ms. Carlson in effigy?

She is obviously not of the Body.

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1 U-S-A!

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 11:04 AM (ZshNr)

2 I thought we were saving the 'not of the body' joke for Mary Landrieu supporters. BTW, do I need to Go Get The Others?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 08, 2014 11:06 AM (eUipI)

3 Margaret Carlson is such a quisling. I like calling people quislings. I think it's some kind of duck. Or something.

Posted by: Billo Reily at February 08, 2014 11:06 AM (JQuNB)

4 She got by with it because Libs don't actually read the articles pertaining to the issues. They just recite what they are told. She totally blew this past them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 11:07 AM (DmNpO)

5 But she is fully in support of Wendy Davis. Weird how that works.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:07 AM (4+AaH)

6 Wendy Davis? Yep, quisling.

Posted by: Billo Reily at February 08, 2014 11:08 AM (JQuNB)

7 Quislings are a type of weasel.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:09 AM (4+AaH)

8 Isn't Wendy Davis famous for her filibuster (in blood stained and partially bleached tennies) of just such limiting legislation?

Posted by: The Hickster at February 08, 2014 11:10 AM (TI3xG)

9 Zod doesn't take babies, he gives them!

Posted by: General Zod at February 08, 2014 11:11 AM (2+bRt)

10 SOCONZZZZZZZZZZ!

Posted by: Our new lunatic troll at February 08, 2014 11:11 AM (MMC8r)

11 Sorry to go OT so soon, but I just finished the Mitt documentary. My recommendation: do not watch it unless you have a real desire to be depressed.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at February 08, 2014 11:12 AM (qFpRI)

12
Well Mr. Blogger, I may be a scrunt, but I'm not that kind of scrunt!

Posted by: Maggie Carlson at February 08, 2014 11:12 AM (nQjHM)

13 So her point about Wendy Davis is that her story has "truthiness," that she clawed her way out of poverty by pluck or by luck. I think it does rhyme with that.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:13 AM (4+AaH)

14
Wendy Davis, I don't give a shit!

Posted by: Honey Badger at February 08, 2014 11:13 AM (nQjHM)

15 Isn't Wendy Davis famous for her filibuster (in blood stained and partially bleached tennies) of just such limiting legislation?

That's exactly right, which makes Carlson's defense of her rather odd.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 08, 2014 11:13 AM (Ai04r)

16 The story of the courageous, articulate and inspiring lawyer has become the tale of a fabulist who canÂ’t be trusted... Courageous?! What has she been smoking?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 11:14 AM (DmNpO)

17 This is the normal "personally opposed" bullshit. It is a way for people to salve their conscience for full throated (at any time you can get away with it) support.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2014 11:14 AM (TGgNi)

18 Margaret Carlson just took the liberty of bullshitting her readers. Because the only way Democrats can discuss issues is to lie about their positions. Otherwise, people paying attention would notice the lies.

Posted by: Barry O at February 08, 2014 11:15 AM (84b7V)

19 Also, Swift boating when used by libs used to mean telling lies about a candidate. Now they have accepted it to mean telling the truth when the candidate lies. But Margaret Carlson is okay with it, because abortion. Which she thinks is icky, but we probably need it because of the colored girls.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:15 AM (4+AaH)

20
Wendy Davis ripped off her loving husband, all the while bouncing a much younger man's schlong for personal gratification. This behavior is normally associated with the words gold-diggin' bitch. And for good measure, she's a slimy turd.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at February 08, 2014 11:16 AM (nQjHM)

21 19 Or optionally, "swift-boating" is when republicans attempt to do to democrats what democrats do to republicans all the time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2014 11:17 AM (TGgNi)

22 All Wendy needs is a honkable red nose to go with the sneakers....

Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 11:17 AM (ULH4o)

23 I love the way she suggests that lying is only bad because Republicans say it is bad.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 11:17 AM (DmNpO)

24 >>all the while bouncing a much younger man's schlong for personal gratification<< Join Zod, Davis...join us! Your name will be second only to my own!

Posted by: General Zod at February 08, 2014 11:18 AM (2+bRt)

25 In some ways, the story of slimy turds is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Billo Reilly at February 08, 2014 11:18 AM (JQuNB)

26 And, whatever else about Mark Sanford, he did get around to telling the truth. It isn't like he is *still* saying that he was taking a walk on the Appalachian trail, and only Democrats would say otherwise.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:19 AM (4+AaH)

27 Babies are like republicans,(that is, they insist upon reality) and should be dealt with similarly. (i.e. Cuisinart, then American Standard)

Posted by: lefty default at February 08, 2014 11:20 AM (DtNNC)

28
Margaret Carlson was the liberal chick in college who believed the horny conservative who told her he valued her opinion and trusted her judgement while he humped her taco for bragging rights to the "most ignorant chick on campus who gives great blowjobs" award.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at February 08, 2014 11:21 AM (nQjHM)

29 She must be an icky socon. Clearly this is an issue that we should abandon cause unlimited abortion is the future. Sokaaaaaaaahhhhhnnn!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 08, 2014 11:21 AM (ZPrif)

30 ...courageous, articulate and inspiring lawyer has become the tale of a fabulist who canÂ’t be trusted... I think it's a 6-semester sequence at Harvard Law.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 11:22 AM (xSegX)

31 >>he did get around to telling the truth<< Yes, and in that sense, his karma is just slightly better than Bill Clinton's. Just slightly. Zod will not confer on Sanford any crown of laurels.

Posted by: General Zod at February 08, 2014 11:23 AM (2+bRt)

32 Margaret Carlson was the liberal chick in college who believed the horny conservative who told her he valued her opinion and trusted her judgement while he humped her taco for bragging rights to the "most ignorant chick on campus who gives great blowjobs" award. You gotta admit, though--those glasses have that "come hither" look.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 08, 2014 11:23 AM (JQuNB)

33
You gotta admit, though--those glasses have that "come hither" look.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 08, 2014 03:23 PM (JQuNB)

Bill, S E Cupp she's not!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at February 08, 2014 11:24 AM (nQjHM)

34 Liberal contradictions, I saw one this morning. The NAACP is planning a big rally for Monday to protest NC's new Voter ID law. The list of Instructions for participants states that a valid ID is required at all times.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 11:24 AM (ZshNr)

35 Little known fact: Velma Dinkley's character was based on Margaret Carlson.

Posted by: Scooby at February 08, 2014 11:24 AM (p78Co)

36 Margaret Carlson was the liberal chick in college who believed the horny conservative who told her he valued her opinion and trusted her judgement while he humped her taco for bragging rights to the "most ignorant chick on campus who gives great blowjobs" award I feel bad for liberal women sometimes. When they're young and hot, they think everybody thinks they're smart. Then they get older. And they think their "animal rights activism" and "environmentalism" isn't anything but a desperate cry for attention.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 11:25 AM (xSegX)

37 35 Little known fact: Velma Dinkley's character was based on Margaret Carlson. Posted by: Scooby at February 08, 2014 03:24 PM (p78Co) I think Velma was capable of logical deduction.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 11:27 AM (xSegX)

38 22-25 weeks is in the 5th month. In Europe, they don't allow abortions much after the end of the first trimester. Shouldn't we be more like Europe? (Isn't that the standard leftists are always saying America should strive for?)

Posted by: elaine at February 08, 2014 11:27 AM (GNZ0/)

39 Just because I'm wearing a vagina costume, you think I'm an attention-whore. Fascists!

Posted by: Margaret Carlson at February 08, 2014 11:28 AM (JQuNB)

40 What she says and how she votes are obviously 2 separate things.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 08, 2014 11:28 AM (ndlFj)

41 That is a really cool article in the sidebar about Bigelow habitats.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 11:29 AM (sdi6R)

42 Yes, and in that sense, his karma is just slightly better than Bill Clinton's. Just slightly. Not my point. My point is that Carlson is trying to make a parallel, and say, well, guys can lie but no, not this woman. The problems of the attempted parallels are multiple, but, come on.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:29 AM (4+AaH)

43 The Texas law Davis was fillibustering stopped abortion after 20 weeks. So I guess the difference between a general leading the war on women and a regular, level-haded gal like Margret Carlson is about three weeks.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at February 08, 2014 11:30 AM (aGWGv)

44 It's true that Karma's a bitch, but she gave one helluva blowjob.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 08, 2014 11:31 AM (JQuNB)

45 >>Isn't Wendy Davis famous for her filibuster (in blood stained and partially bleached tennies) of just such limiting legislation?

That's exactly right, which makes Carlson's defense of her rather odd.

Posted by: OregonMuse

Tribalism.

Affectations, mantras, and antipathy toward those evil Others.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 08, 2014 11:31 AM (cxs6V)

46 Also, Carlson has proven a point that I have made over and over. Democrats want their candidates to lie. They think it is cool. We try to pin flip-flopper labels on Dems, and they just revel in it. Hey, I was lying before or I am now, doesn't matter. My supporters will support it, because I am lying to win. Think about it - do you think that Obama supporters believed Obama's anti-gay-marriage position? No, they knew he was lying.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:32 AM (4+AaH)

47 Speed skating on now. 17-year old American going racing. It's a rerun of the 5,000m that I missed earlier.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 11:33 AM (ZshNr)

48
Understand this conservatives. I'm very serious about how I present myself, and I carefully prepare all my columns to reflect my lifelong views.

Any attempt to rewrite my long-held opinions on any matter will be met with a ferocious rebuttal in the New York Times. And if he agrees, on the infamous Ace of Spades HQ blog, sometimes inhabited by troglodytes and Obama hating miscreants.

Posted by: Maggie Carlson at February 08, 2014 11:33 AM (nQjHM)

49 No, they knew he was lying. They done found us out, Cletus. Heehee!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 08, 2014 11:33 AM (JQuNB)

50 Does this mean we have to wear tampon earrings and throw water balloons filled with piss at her now?

'Cause I don't wanna.

Posted by: Book at February 08, 2014 11:34 AM (qWES6)

51 >>>think of that oil slick that ate Tasha Yar

I'm either proud or ashamed that I got that reference. I can't decide which.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2014 11:35 AM (IN7k+)

52
Margaret Carlson....

Why is Al Franken dressed up like a lady?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 08, 2014 11:35 AM (kdS6q)

53 My recommendation: do not watch it unless you have a real desire to be depressed. Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at February 08, 2014 03:12 PM (qFpRI) Meanwhile, Choom boy demonstrates that the Democrat half of the electorate OUGHT to be on drugs. http://twitchy.com/2014/02/07/is-obama-stoned-president-just-not-that-into-bob-costas-interview/

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 08, 2014 11:35 AM (bb5+k)

54 Does this mean we have to wear tampon earrings and throw water balloons filled with piss at her now? And this is why we lose. Because we won't wear tampon earrings.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:35 AM (4+AaH)

55 Think about it - do you think that Obama supporters believed Obama's anti-gay-marriage position? No, they knew he was lying. And yet many believed him when he said you could keep your doctor.

Posted by: --- at February 08, 2014 11:36 AM (MMC8r)

56 4Â She got by with it because Libs don't actually read the articles pertaining to the issues. They just recite what they are told.Â She totally blew this past them - NDH _________ I didn't even read past your comment yet, but, Get Out Of My Head! You literally just stated exactly what I was thinking. I bet if you were to debate any pro-abortion lefty you know right now - even if they claimed to have read this article - they would have no idea this is Carlson's stance. She knows they only recite the talking points, and slipped this one in "under the radar."

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 08, 2014 11:37 AM (t+Ksb)

57 Does this mean we have to wear tampon earrings and throw water balloons filled with piss at her now?

And this is why we lose. Because we won't wear tampon earrings.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 03:35 PM (4+AaH)

::nods:: Exactly. If we want to appeal to Joe Merica, we need to be more mainstream. ::dons vagina costume::

Posted by: Book at February 08, 2014 11:38 AM (qWES6)

58 It depends on how viable your definition of viability is.

Posted by: m carlson at February 08, 2014 11:38 AM (OqkE5)

59 >>>22-25 weeks? That's getting down to almost the second trimester, isn't it?

Almost? That ain't almost; that's within the 2nd trimester.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2014 11:39 AM (IN7k+)

60 (I have no idea why my comment posted like that.)

Posted by: Book at February 08, 2014 11:39 AM (qWES6)

61 And yet many believed him when he said you could keep your doctor. LIV collateral damage. Recall all the "smart" lib were saying, well, of course it isn't true. He just had to say that to pass the bill.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:39 AM (4+AaH)

62
I'm very multicultural, and to prove my sincerity, after attending a Manhattan cocktail I went to the local Bodega and fucked a Mexican with big ears. Now that is the best of multicultural assimilation.

Posted by: Maggie Carlson at February 08, 2014 11:39 AM (nQjHM)

63 I am far less shocked by Carlson's admission against interest than I am by the SCOAMF having gone to the National Prayer Breakfast earlier this week and there, havinh sonorously intoned to the assembled grandees that the greatest of all transgressions against religion is the murder of the innocent.

Says the person who callously refused to support the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act. An Act that even uber-lefties such as Senator M'am Barbara Boxer found it impossible to vote against. And from the same person who has without doubt been ***THE*** single most active enabler and defender of the surgical murder of helpless infants ever to hold the office of President of the United States.

I'm slugging back the Val-U-Rite ice cold and undiluted, but it's still not getting that hot biting taste of bile out of the back of my throat.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2014 11:41 AM (gqT4g)

64 Many of the ignorant elites who advocate for abortion "on demand" in this country would be very surprised to learn (if they had any intellectual curiosity at all, which they don't, but whatever) that all those liberal, socialist European countries they admire so don't allow abortions too long into the 2nd trimester and most of them have shorter time-lines then the USA does (France, for example, only allows one up to 12 weeks -- that's 1/2 the time US law allows). All with the usual "life of the mother" provisio, of course.

As a woman, I do acknowledge that although I would never have one myself, there is a need for safe, legal abortions in LIMITED circumstances (the old "safe, legal and rare" line -- if it was actually true, not a trojan horse for abortion on demand, as it has turned out to be). I know the progs scream about *choice* but the fact is, when people CHOOSE to have sex both the male and female are making the choice to risk conception (even with protection -- nothing is 100%). Why should the female get a second bite at the apple --- a 2nd *choice* -- about whether to have the baby if conception occurs? Well, I can rationalize that since it is she who has to carry the child (which is hard on her body), and that having a child is something that will change her life in a way nothing else does (plus, don't forget that if the guy cuts out -- it is she who will have primary care of the baby), she should be given a VERY SMALL WINDOW to re-think/re-choose whether to have the baby. What the pro-abortion groups in the USA are currently advocating for, though, is completely uncivilized and demeaning to women. If a woman is so stupid that she can't figure out that she is pregnant and/or get herself to a clinic by her 5th month (which is basically what the pro-abortion groups claim with their "abortion on demand at any time" philosophy), she gets no sympathy from me and I advise her to start looking into adoption agencies if she doesn't want to raise the child herself.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 08, 2014 11:43 AM (FDGeg)

65 The Texas law Davis was fillibustering stopped abortion after 20 weeks. More than that: It demanded that abortion clinics be subject to the same sanitary and safety standards as any medical facility. That's what really burns them.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 11:44 AM (xSegX)

66 desperate cry for attention. Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 03:25 PM

Hear us roar, wingnut!

Posted by: The Janeane Garofalo Tattoo Collection at February 08, 2014 11:44 AM (KQp38)

67 How stupid are you? It's a question Republicans and their lobby-masters ask themselves of conservative Americans every day, I'd imagine. Most of you have heard that insulting radio ad about how the "Republican plan for immigration reform is," but there's one line in it that stands apart: "[Illegals] with criminal backgrounds should be deported." First, there is a big difference, in the eyes of the law, between the word should and shall. The former is merely a suggestion, whereas the latter is an order. So no illegals with criminal backgounds WILL be deported...but they should say Republicans and that ought to make you dummies feel better. Incidentally, Democrats are working on a law to make it illegal for employers to do background check...unless of course that employer is Government. So no one is to be discriminated against and no one is to be deported. So, that's why I plan to show how Repiblicans just how stupid I am and will forget to vote in Novemeber.

Posted by: Soothsayer in 10 Forward with Tribbles at February 08, 2014 11:45 AM (q19mL)

68 Abortion Barbie's big draw according to the feminists isn't abortion, but that she's a single mom who struggled but still went to Harvard Law, and isn't that every woman's story?

Funny though, nobody knew who she was until she filibustered the 20 week law in the TX legislature

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:46 AM (aTXUx)

69 Margaret Carlson is a "serious Catholic" woman, and has stated this view about abortion before on some talking heads TV show. And she got jumped by the other impartial "Media" types about it, because, you know, that just isn't said. And Cokie Roberts once also uttered that apostasy on the TV, because she was raised a Catholic girl down in Louisiana (her father was Hale Boggs). Her own husband, Steve Roberts was sitting next to her and mocked her for this. Abortion is a Big Deal for Democrats, and that pretty much makes them disgusting. Pat Moynihan, the late Democrat Senator from New York (and also an Irish Catholic) was also against abortion, and so what? He was still a Democrat and voted with them almost all the time.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 11:46 AM (+1T7c)

70 Most of you have heard that insulting radio ad about how the "Republican plan for immigration reform is I believe that it is a false flag op. Isnt that ad from Zuckerberg's crew?

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 11:47 AM (4+AaH)

71 Wendy Davis' career lost viability around the second trimester of her second year of law school.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2014 11:48 AM (g4TxM)

72 More than that: It demanded that abortion clinics be subject to the same sanitary and safety standards as any medical facility. That's what really burns them. Every dollar Planned Parenthood spends on Lysol is a dollar that starves the campaign of a Leftist.

Posted by: --- at February 08, 2014 11:49 AM (MMC8r)

73 These new ads are slightly different from the Zuckerberg front goup's ads, but could be just another Zuckerberg front group with a different name.

Posted by: Soothsayer in 10 Forward with Tribbles at February 08, 2014 11:49 AM (q19mL)

74 Another line is about the illegals paying back taxes or fines. Or what?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer in 10 Forward with Tribbles at February 08, 2014 11:51 AM (q19mL)

75 Life begins at conception, there can be no dispute of this, the question is, when does the value of that life begin?

For 55 million babies since roe v wade became law of the land the answer is never.

Dwell on that number.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 08, 2014 11:51 AM (Xkr8I)

76 But she is fully in support of Wendy Davis.

What's a few million dismembered babies when one's tribal affiliation is at stake?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2014 11:52 AM (8ZskC)

77 O/T Anyone else tired of the Olympics commentators constantly politicizing the Olympics, by talking about how Putin politicized the Olympics? Oh... Look.... they are doing Russian history, but leaving the bad stuff out... It would be like the US doing a US history, and talking about the Genocide of the American Indian, or the Civil War atrocities committed by the North...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 08, 2014 11:54 AM (RMCS5)

78 Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 03:46 PM (+1T7c)

Not only was Cokie Roberts' dad Hale Boggs, her mom was Lindy Boggs, who, after stepping into Hale's US Congressional seat when he died, became the US Ambassador to the Vatican under Clinton.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 08, 2014 11:54 AM (FDGeg)

79 >>I'm either proud or ashamed that I got that reference. I can't decide which. Mildly proud. To be really proud, you'd need to answer starting with "Well, technically it wasn't..."

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 08, 2014 11:54 AM (SUKHu)

80 76 Life begins at conception, there can be no dispute of this, the question is, when does the value of that life begin? For 55 million babies since roe v wade became law of the land the answer is never. Dwell on that number. ============ 55 million "rare" abortions. And then we gather at ball games and communally sing "God Bless America". Why would He?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 08, 2014 11:54 AM (P6QsQ)

81 He must want those lower salaried, Indian computer geeks really badly. Are they really so hard to get? I'm on a search committee for our math department and none of our top candidates are Americans and we don't give it a second thought.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 11:55 AM (xSegX)

82 btw, 2014 is 1/10th in the past already time flies like a banana

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 08, 2014 11:59 AM (IV1em)

83 I think Margaret Carlson is secretly a Democrat.

Posted by: whoever at February 08, 2014 12:01 PM (kGSN0)

84 "could be just another Zuckerberg front group with a different name."

Yup. Sure is.

Here's your periodic reminder to those of you who continue to use Farcebook: your patronage of Zuckerberg is what puts the money in his pockets to let him run this sort of Astroturf bullshit -- liberal agitprop prominently labeled as being from "conservatives".

Here's a broadly worded hint. A guy who sits down to a private dinner with Barack Obama every time Obama comes to Silicon Valley, and a guy who volunteered engineering help from his firm to assist the technology push of Obama's campaign arm in 2012, _just might possibly not be an actual conservative_.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2014 12:01 PM (gqT4g)

85 My daughter was born at 24 weeks. Looked like a space alien when she came out of womb. Docs told us to give her a name and pray. She turned 10 last October with barely any problems. Just some ADD. It's disgusting that to think that my wife could have gone to a clinic and had them vacuum the fetus out of her. It's even more disgusting that there's an element of society that thinks this is perfectly okay because the fetus is nothing more than inconvenience.

Posted by: Devil-Slayer at February 08, 2014 12:02 PM (Cggle)

86 Well, I can rationalize that since it is she who has to carry the child (which is hard on her body), and that having a child is something that will change her life in a way nothing else does (plus, don't forget that if the guy cuts out -- it is she who will have primary care of the baby), Two points, DancingQueen: Abortion is even harder on a woman's body than pregnancy. A guy who is willing to participate in baby-making activities should accept his part of the responsibility.

Posted by: Mindy at February 08, 2014 12:04 PM (mQwL2)

87 Right now I'd guess the opposite is true. Indian computer geeks are getting jobs that pay American wages rather than something closer to the Indian norm. Maybe. I don't know that market at all. I'd think computer stuff is very easily outsourced, though.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 12:11 PM (xSegX)

88 Not only was Cokie Roberts' dad Hale Boggs, her mom was Lindy Boggs, who, after stepping into Hale's US Congressional seat when he died, became the US Ambassador to the Vatican under Clinton. Posted by: Dancing Queen And her brother is Thomas Hale Boggs, one of the biggest lobbyists on K-Street, and has been for decades. And this is just one of the many Media - Political - Bullshit connections that just always seems to be going on. What a coincidence.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 12:14 PM (+1T7c)

89 I have (had? they divorced, after all) a step-brother who was born at 25 weeks. He's still alive some 25 yeas later. Given that a standard pregnancy is 40 weeks, each trimester would be 13 weeks (Â±3 days), so he was definitely second trimester. Assuming society doesn't collapse, viability (with extremely costly medical care) will be into the first trimester in a matter of a dacade or two.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at February 08, 2014 12:17 PM (MbqmP)

90 And this is just one of the many Media - Political - Bullshit connections that just always seems to be going on. What a coincidence.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 04:14 PM (+1T7c)

We're way past the point of having de facto hereditary pseudo-royalty. It is now accepted as normal, like "Hillary!/2016".

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 08, 2014 12:19 PM (o3MSL)

91 Assuming society doesn't collapse, viability (with extremely costly medical care) will be into the first trimester in a matter of a dacade or two.

Posted by: Stark DickflÃ¼ssig at February 08, 2014 04:17 PM (MbqmP)

Probably not in the US under Obamacide rules. Closets are much cheaper.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 08, 2014 12:21 PM (o3MSL)

Mostly on topic...

Everyone remember the moonbat feminist that had a couple articles linked in the ONT in the past couple months, claiming that all sex is rape and that people visiting her blog is a threat? Well, I wrote an open letter in response to her. Linked in my sig and by tweet @conservativecra earlier today.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 08, 2014 12:21 PM (R+XDI)

93 Margaret has Carlson has a daughter and has made it clear she desperately wanted and wants more grandchildren. She has them through her second husband, Ed Rendell, but not by daughter Courtney yet I believe. Funny how that catches up with you, isn't it?
All of a sudden the thought of someone aborting your grandchild, or even the grandchild of another makes one nauseous.
I was chatting with a 'liberated' woman the other day about various matters, and she told me a funny story. She was talking to her 30 year old childless married daughter about house owning matters when she said she blurted out of nowhere, she had no idea where it came from: "WHERE THE HELL ARE MY GRANDKIDS?" She said she felt much better afterwords.

Posted by: pat at February 08, 2014 12:25 PM (KCg4m)

94 Margaret Carlson is in the Mark Shields wing of Catholicism; complete hypocrisy.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 08, 2014 12:28 PM (V70Uh)

95 Two points, DancingQueen:

Abortion is even harder on a woman's body than pregnancy.

A guy who is willing to participate in baby-making activities should accept his part of the responsibility.

Posted by: Mindy at February 08, 2014 04:04 PM (mQwL2)

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Point one: Yes, abortion is hard on the body too. I'm not quite sure I accept that a first-trimester one is *harder* than a full-term pregnancy and delivery, especially one that requires a c-section. But even if it is, it's irrelevant to the overall point I was making about the need for a truly "safe, legal and rare" standard in this country -- what we have now is just "legal;" with "safe" and "rare" we aren't even close. I will say I'm not interested in debating whether there should be a complete ban or not (ideally, yes, I would like for no one to ever get one except in dire medical necessity cases -- but that's not going to happen). You can claim I am compromising my morals, but I don't think of it that way -- ultimately, I can only be responsible for my own choices and my own soul. As I stated, I would never have one.

Point two -- Again, ideally a guy should accept responsibility. Many don't though -- courts are full of claims for back child support, etc. That's just reality.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 08, 2014 12:28 PM (FDGeg)

96 Conservative Crank, I especially appreciated your point about "all PIV is rape" vs. actual rape.

Posted by: Mindy at February 08, 2014 12:30 PM (mQwL2)

97 What kind of idiot would front Michael Jackson $700 million?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 08, 2014 12:33 PM (6bMeY)

98
Most impressed Conservative Crank didn't call the radical feminist a taco slurping hard core lesbian. Protracted psychiatric intervention will never reorder this malignant mind into any semblance of normality. In medical terms, she's a fucking nut!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at February 08, 2014 12:33 PM (nQjHM)

99 Question: is DIV rape also?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 08, 2014 12:35 PM (xSegX)

100 Hamptons Group Home Workers Allegedly Ran Â‘Developmentally Disabled Fight Club. http://tinyurl.com/kzzeudr

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 08, 2014 12:36 PM (6bMeY)

101 Well done, CC.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 08, 2014 12:36 PM (o9Rp5)

102 Carlsen is a prime example I use to demonstrate that modern "journalism" requires neither writing skill nor insight as long as one holds the Politically Correct Views and ensures they are reinforced in every piece. She has never said anything remotely profound, or even nuanced, in her take on the issues of the day. So why has she been a published columnist for over 30 years? Because she is a liberal woman who doesn't stray off the reservation.

I don't know what got into her with this abortion "viability" argument. The MSM labored mightily to keep coverage of the Gosnell atrocities to a minimum, but modern science is making the traditional No Limit Abortion position less viable - not just through improvements in neo-natal care and treating premature births, but mainly through the ability of ultrasound images to illustrate that a baby is, in fact, a human being at very early stages and not the "mass of tissue" the abortionistas have always claimed.

The movement of some liberal females toward some limits on abortion now may be in effect a rearguard action as they see the writing on the wall.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 08, 2014 12:37 PM (QIQ6j)

103 so let's review if a conservative suggests there ought to be legal limits on abortion, the conservative is a misogynistic Bible thumping extremist who wants to throw women in jail and impose Christian theocracy if a liberal suggests there ought to be legal limits on abortion, that liberal is just smart and nuanced and just goes to show that liberals are not ideologues nope, no double standard whatsoever

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at February 08, 2014 12:37 PM (Osdie)

104 >>...why haven't they burned Ms. Carlson in effigy? Isn't that a place in Iowa? Road trip!

Posted by: Aviator at February 08, 2014 12:38 PM (DI+ja)

105 The guys making money in India are to go betweens who can translate our software requirements and testing specifications to the local teams of coders. A good one is worth his weight in gold.

Posted by: Jean at February 08, 2014 12:39 PM (4JkHl)

106 Biathlon now. Guns and skis, a match made in heaven.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 12:40 PM (ZshNr)

107 Posted by: pat at February 08, 2014 04:25 PM (KCg4m)

Sort of repeating something I read but can't attribute since I didn't bookmark it. The abortion tidal wave (coupled with birth control) is creating generations of people with no extended family, i.e., no siblings, no cousins, no nephews, etc. Old age might be a bit bleak for them.

Of course with divorce and gay marriage, they may have multiple parents and step-parents of varying persuasions, like Heather.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 08, 2014 12:40 PM (o3MSL)

108 Maybe they intend to drown Margaret. Is she made of wood?

Posted by: Erowmero at February 08, 2014 12:40 PM (OONaw)

109 The first rule of Developmentally Disabled Fight Club is you don't talk about Developmentally Disabled Fight Club. http://tinyurl.com/kzzeudr

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 08, 2014 12:42 PM (6bMeY)

110 Maybe they intend to drown Margaret. Is she made of wood?

Posted by: Erowmero at February 08, 2014 04:40 PM (OONaw)

That always seemed like such a fundamentally sound method of testing!

Posted by: C Mather at February 08, 2014 12:43 PM (o3MSL)

111 Does she weigh the same as a duck?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 08, 2014 12:43 PM (6bMeY)

112 >>She has them through her second husband, Ed Rendell, but not by daughter Courtney yet I believe. She is not married to Ed Rendell.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 08, 2014 12:46 PM (SUKHu)

113 I think Carlson is about as "pro-life" at the point of viability as Obama was pro-traditional marriage pre-2012 election.

She's just playing "reasonable" in order to make Wendy look like a viable candidate even for "us non-abortion extremists" *wink, wink*

Posted by: Lizzy at February 08, 2014 12:46 PM (POpqt)

114 Dancing Queen, I agree that abortion should be extremely rare. I've wondered if it could be tackled from another approach, like making it illegal to pressure a woman to abort. That would cut the rate considerably, but I have no idea how to enforce that. I consider even an early abortion to be a greater health risk than pregnancy due to the unnatural hormonal disturbance (unlike miscarriage, abortion is the #1 risk factor for breast cancer) and poking things in a uterus that don't belong and can introduce infection.

Posted by: Mindy at February 08, 2014 12:48 PM (mQwL2)

115 109 Biathlon now. Guns and skis, a match made in heaven. Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 04:40 PM (ZshNr) But how do you zero skis?

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 12:49 PM (sdi6R)

116 Nice job Conservative Crank.

You had me with your first line -- i.e., "straight male (translation: cis-normative heterosexual oppressor of wymyn."

I'm sure you realize that your talking (or "writing") to a wall re: RadFems, as they are immune to logic and satire.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 08, 2014 12:50 PM (FDGeg)

117 ot This is a great read. Christian Science Monitor Why USA will win Sochi Olympics medal count. (It's not what you think.) (+video) Team USA is favored to top the Sochi Olympics medal count in large part because America has innovated a unique Olympic ecosystem that thrives without a penny of federal money. heartwarming http://tinyurl.com/ppe89ha

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 08, 2014 12:52 PM (IXrOn)

118 103>> I hope each of those MFs goes to jail and becomes a bunk muffin for some bulking heathen with bad breath and an STD.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 08, 2014 12:58 PM (j2X6g)

119 Back in the day, she was kinda cute in a mousy way.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 08, 2014 01:00 PM (cEwEq)

120 I've wondered if it could be tackled from another approach, like making it illegal to pressure a woman to abort. That would cut the rate considerably, but I have no idea how to enforce that.

Posted by: Mindy at February 08, 2014 04:48 PM (mQwL2)

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That is a question I struggle with -- how to approach it. Your suggestion about making it "illegal to pressure a woman to abort" seems, to me, to be next to impossible to enforce (i.e., we'd only know about the pressure if the woman comes forward).

I usually end up concluding that we have to expose what the Dems *say* about abortion for the lie that it is (although with the MSM running interception for them at every turn, that's pretty impossible too). See, "safe, legal and rare" and "I can't impose my religion on/make that choice for others" *sounds* really good to the vast majority of people out there -- heck, I agree with those positions myself and when I was younger, I was fooled into thinking those statements embodied the Dem position. It was only as I got older and realized what was what that I realized it was all a b.s. cover story to advance abortion on demand at any time by the Dems. If people actually knew the Dems real position -- not the good-sounding lies they tell -- they would be repulsed.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 08, 2014 01:00 PM (FDGeg)

121 "The status of women up to now has been compared to that of a slave; women have been tied to the home, and only Socialism can save them from this." -- Lenin BUT "In 1936, |Krupskaya| defended restrictions on abortion passed by the Soviet government in that year, arguing that they were part of a consistent policy pursued since 1920 to do away with the reasons to have an abortion." Soviet Feminism was somewhat less murderous than "moderate" Progressive Feminism. Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 08, 2014 01:01 PM (thBHI)

122 Good letter, Conservative Crank. Reading the link to her newer post, the seems to think that men who read her PIV post are now also a threat. *facepalm* She doesn't appear to understand how the internet works. A blogger cannot simply restrict her posts only to her intended audience.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 01:01 PM (sdi6R)

123 That biathlon was wild. And those times are simply amazing. 6.25 miles plus two shooting stations in under 25 minutes?

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 08, 2014 01:24 PM (eQJwb)

124 125 It probably makes perfect sense to her, rickl. You see, men shouldn't even exist, so of course they shouldn't be reading her bog posts.

Posted by: Mindy at February 08, 2014 01:28 PM (mQwL2)

125 Festival !!! Festival !!!

Posted by: Landrau at February 08, 2014 01:51 PM (e8kgV)

126 Â‘CanÂ’t make this upÂ’!

NC NAACP tells voter ID protesters to bring photo ID to Moral March

Posted by: Hiliary "does it really matter" Clinton at February 08, 2014 02:09 PM (e8kgV)

127 "A boiled-down, gooey tar pit of concentrated stupid (think of that oil slick that ate Tasha Yar), that'll lower your IQ by several points if you so much as glance at it."

I hafta admit - that is a stunningly good putdown!

Posted by: anon at February 08, 2014 02:26 PM (PQ3tU)

128 After reading that rad fem blog and the comments there, I don't know what to think about progressive wymyns! I's confuzzled

Posted by: boned to the bone at February 08, 2014 03:09 PM (Ph479)

129 Joan Walsh to Peggy Carlson: You will be absorbed. Your individuality will merge into the unity of good, and in your submergence into the common being of the body, you will find contentment, fulfillment. You will experience the absolute good.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at February 08, 2014 05:44 PM (ZG3Fa)

130 I think we should put abortion back as the litmus test of a conservative

Posted by: Tighter at February 08, 2014 06:15 PM (qPiU/)

131

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