March 16, 2008
— LauraW Finds Lefty Vitriol Disturbing And Corrosive; No Fuckin' Shit, Shirley
What happens when you have a party that is obsessed with lockstep adherence to party policy and also obsessed with identity politics?
A war over gender and race. Well, it's a war over personal character as well, but what that term actually means to a lefty seems rather backward, considering their candidates.
Diarist Alegre is taking her ball and going home.
It's a Kos link, so you might want to deny him the traffic. But it's almost worth it for the divisive commenty goodness under the post.
I’ve decided to go on "strike" and will refrain from posting here as long as the administrators allow the more disruptive members of our community to trash Hillary Clinton and distort her record without any fear of consequence or retribution. I will not be posting at DailyKos effective immediately. I will not help drive up traffic or page-hits as long as my candidate – a good and fine DEMOCRAT - is attacked in such a horrid and sexist manner not only by other diarists, but by several of those posting to the front page.Instead, I will put my energy into posting at sites where my efforts aren’t routinely trashed, spammed and ridiculed by a handful of angry, petty and spiteful folks who clearly have too much time on their hands.
A sample from the comments:
Let the Shillarys walk...Hillary has abandoned the Democratic party, in an even more destructive way than Joe Lieberman did. She does not deserve our support; her shills have earned our scorn and derision.
Instead of simply joining forces with the Republitards, she and her campaign have worked to re-define the term "Democrat" as "people who support Hillary Clinton as the only true choice for President in 2008."
As her campaign foundered, she blamed the media (and not her own complete lack of a post-Super Tuesday strategy), and clearly indicated her preference for John McCain over Obama if the latter leads the Democratic ticket. She, and her staff, has played the kind of dirty politics we expect from Karl Rove. Racism, coupled with false claims of sexism, is now the language spoken by her entire organization.
Small wonder that the Left has turned against her: she turned against us first! No surprise that our admiration for, and support of, Obama grows by leaps and bounds.So, I urge anyone who wishes to follow Alegre to do so. I also urge kos to close the door behind them, and change the locks.
We are stronger for having shed Joe Lieberman and his camp followers, and we will be stronger still when the last Hillary apologists have left the building.As a true Liberal, I was always appalled by the raw hatred directed at Hillary by the Ridiculous Right. Now, I'm starting to understand it...
I'm not a Democrat, I'm a liberal. Democrats go to meetings.
by willie horton on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 06:17:20 PM PDT
The only thing missing is "I'm John McCain, and I support this message."
Thanks to Stop The ACLU.
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March 15, 2008
— Ace In related news, Albert Speer just emailed to ask me, "Adolf who now?"
Also, Heinrich Himmler writes to say, "I swear to God, I thought he was talking about the gnus. Honestly, yeah, I thought it was pretty weird he was always ranting about them, but I thought it was mostly harmless; I can count the number of gnu-owned businesses I've seen on one hand. Wow. Guess we might have avoided an awful lot of stress and upset if we'd just been listening a little closer. I'm going to have to call a great big 'my bad' on this one. I don't mind telling you fellers I feel like a bit of a horse's ass, if I'm being honest. Oh well, that's why God gave pencils erasers!"
Whoah, the mailbag is overflowing with emails from high ranking Nazis. This from Dr. Josef Mengele: "Anyone who doubts Herr Obama is telling the truth is a racist."
As I'm concerned, Dr. Mengele's word is the gold standard, so file closed.
Bonus: ABCNews' Jake "Racist" Tapper also questions the Obamessiah's convenient lapses from omniscience to obliviousness. If Obama's just hearing of all this now, how come he disinvited Wright from a public event a year ago, with a staffer explaining sometimes Wright's sermons get "too rough"?
Here's a more interesting nugget: Rolling Stone published an article about the radical roots of Barack Obama called, cleverly enough, "The Radical Roots of Barack Obama."
You can see that title in this URL:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13390609/
campaign_08_the_radical_roots_of_barack_obama
But now that the radical roots of Barack Obama turn out to be not just something that gets impotent aging RS editors sexually aroused, but something that might just end Obama's candidacy, the article isn't called that anymore.
Now it exists officially in the Rolling Stone archives under the decidedly less damning headline Destiny's Child.
Ah, well. Rock n' roll is forever reinventing itself, I guess. Rock on, aging out-of-touch pot-addled Rolling Stone hippies. Rock on.
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— Gabriel Malor Commenter William Amos links to this news story with video from June of last year at the 93rd annual Hampton University Ministers' Conference. In the first minutes of the video, Obama had this to say:
"I've got to give a special shout-out to my pastor, the guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to my wife complain about me. He's a friend, and a great leader. Please everybody give an extraordinary welcome to my pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr. ...Where he at? -There he is! That's him right there!"
Sounds pretty tight with the reverend, doesn't he?
I know we shouldn't pass up a chance to slay this beast. But, man, think of how this would have played post-nomination.
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— Gabriel Malor "Kristen's" friends and neighbors are disputing her MySpace claims of a youth of poverty, abuse, drugs, and occasional homelessness.
It's a tough image to reconcile with the wealthy surroundings of a childhood spent with her mother, older brother and stepfather, an oral surgeon.The white brick home in an upscale development near the Jersey Shore, is bordered with manicured shrubs and a wide, curved driveway. Large brass letters spell "PEACE" above the polished, auburn wood door. A similar house next door, where one of Dupré's close childhood friends still lives, is on the market for more than $1.5 million, according to its owner.
The idea of a woman who has no choice but to turn to prostitution to pull herself out of the gutter may have been armor for Kristen, some kind of excuse or justification for behavior that she knew was wrong. Poverty, abuse, and homelessness make for a better story than BMWs, cheerleading, and million-dollar homes.
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— Open Blog
"I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor"
Barack Obama
Senate Debate with Alan Keyes
I have a feeling that Obama would rather have polio than this pastor right about now.
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After doing some digging I found some of Pastor Wright's earlier work:
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— DrewM It's been a slow news Saturday, so here's a little 'Whack-A-Terrorist' to end the day.
Lesson learned...never bring just small arms to a combined arms fight. Alas, these particular terrorists won't be around to share that information.
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— Ace Nuclear.
From a NewsMax article, but whatever. Even if his defenders claim we can't take NewsMax's word on the nodding, we know he was there, we know he heard this, and we know he did not ever say a word about this until it threatened to tank his candidacy.
Wright laced into America's establishment, blaming the "white arrogance" of America's Caucasian majority for the woes of the world, especially the oppression suffered by blacks. To underscore the point he refers to the country as the "United States of White America." Many in the congregation, including Obama, nodded in apparent agreement as these statements were made.
More at the link.
Thanks to someone.
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Update: Lots of Stuff, Including Mark Steyn on Wright's 9/11 Chickens-Coming-Home to Roost Sermon
— Ace And as an added bonus, the title of his book, The Audacity of Hope, is once again borrowed (shocker) from a Wright sermon.
And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. As the sermon unfolded, though, the stories of strife became more prosaic, the pain more immediate. The reverend spoke of the hardship that the congregation would face tomorrow, the pain of those far from the mountaintop, worrying about paying the light billÂ…
I'm informed that this sermon is actually on YouTube, but I can't find it.
Not really on point, but...
"I wouldn't call it radical, I'd just call it being black in America."
Well, there's some truth in that. Blacks tend to have a radical's view of America. Black pols and activists tend to be view America antagonistically -- perhaps for good reason -- and are often far more comfortable with the radical strain of politics as exemplified by Marx, Chomsky, etc.
But Barack Obama certainly has not represented himself as a radical, even the "normal" sort of black radical that's pretty common. He represents himself as a true moderate and centrist, above the divisive extremes.
But of course he's not a moderate. At best he's a left-liberal -- the most liberal Senator in America -- but his close political associations with die hard anti-Americans such as Wright, and the genuine terrorist Bill Ayers, suggest he's not even merely a left-liberal.
Look, I went apeshit on Ron Paul for his own repellent embrace of hatred, paranoiac conspiracy-theorizing, anti-Americanism, and yes, racism.
Are we all supposed to give Obama a pass because this passes as relatively normal among a certain segment of the American electorate?
Ron Paul's noxious newsletters also seem relatively anodyne among a certain segment of the American electorate, but we (most of us, at least) do not say he's free to court Neo-Nazis and employ racist ghostwriters just because a fairly extreme group sees their views not as extreme but just good old common sense.
If Barack Obama is truly to transcend race and "heal" our nation, he's going to have to tell white people things they don't want to hear -- and tell black people things they don't want to hear, either.
He's had 20 fucking years to say something to Jeremiah Wright. He has not. So I'm not thinking he's eager to tell blacks they have to give up on some of their wilder flights of paranoid fantasy and scapegoating.
Jesse Jackson couldn't "heal" our country's racial wounds because he was plainly a partisan on one side in the racial cold war. From what we've seen of Obama, he's precisely the same, albeit with a more affable and calm demeanor.
But we don't elect people based upon their demeanors. Or at least we shouldn't. We elect them upon their actual beliefs, ideas, and policy impulses. And while Obama talks a nice, safe, nonthreatening game of gauzy, nonspecific racial "healing," he is an acolyte of firebrand race-warrior and has been such for 20 years.
And in all that time, he failed to bring the "healing" and "reconciliation" he promises to the nation to a single man.
If he can't heal Wright's age-old hatreds and paranoias, how the hell does he claim he can do the same for Texas? For Boston? For LA? For Crown Heights? For the whole country, and for (as some of his more unhinged supporters would have it) for the entirety of the Earth itself?
Charity begins at the home, Senator. So too does healing and hope for change.
Awesome: Dueling demagogues: Wright vs. Obama.
Thanks to Doug.
Obama's Foreign Policy Judgment: One can of course be right for the wrong reasons.
Let's say, arguendo, that Obama was right to oppose the War in Iraq.
The reasons he'd like you to think he opposed that war are prudential in nature -- not the right enemy, not the right time, not the right force levels, not the right amount of world support, not the right doctrine, not the right tangible security-interests gain for the right sacrifice.
But what if his reasons are not prudential but ideological in nature? His spiritual guide and political mentor views America as a positive force for evil in the world -- there are few woes that cannot be traced directly America's imperialist, racist, selfish nature.
He claims he condemns Wright's statements (but not necessarily his worldview) now that they've become public. He has not previously disavowed this view of God Damn America, America the Evil.
Like seeks like. Obama comes from a radical background and counts radicals among his most important advises and supporters and friends.
It hardly shows off Obama's good "judgment" if he, as seems nearly certain, he opposed the American invasion of Iraq simply because he views America as the disease infecting the world.
That's hardly a nuanced, well-considered view. It's a childishly simplistic and borderline insane view.
So: What were Obama's true reasons for opposing the war? And what does that say about his foreign policy impulses?
Barack Obama has been vague and evasive on such questions to the point of self-parody, so we must turn to the best evidence available to determine what he really thinks. He's certainly not telling himself.
And the best evidence in this case are the words of the man who married him, who baptised his children, who delivers vicious tirades against the evil of the US of KKK A apparently every second or third Sunday.
Good, sound, well-considered nuanced judgment?
Or ugly old kneejerk, hateful blame-America-First-ism?
I know which way I'm leaning.
And Even More On That: This time from Mark Steyn.
I’m not a believer in guilt by association, or the campaign vaudeville of rival politicians insisting this or that candidate disassociate himself from remarks by some fellow he had a 30-second grip’n’greet with a decade ago. But Jeremiah Wright is not exactly peripheral to Barack Obama’s life. He married the Obamas and baptized their children. Those of us who made the mistake of buying the senator’s last book, The Audacity of Hope, and assumed the title was an ingeniously parodic distillation of the great sonorous banality of an entire genre of blandly uplifting political writing discovered circa page 127 that in fact the phrase comes from one of the Reverend Wright’s sermons. Jeremiah Wright has been Barack Obama’s pastor for 20 years — in other words, pretty much the senator’s entire adult life. Did Obama consider God Damn America as a title for his book but it didn’t focus-group so well?Ah, well, no, the senator told ABC News. The Reverend Wright is like “an old uncle who says things I don’t always agree with.” So did he agree with goofy old Uncle Jeremiah on September 16th 2001? That Sunday morning, Uncle told his congregation that the United States brought the death and destruction of 9/11 on itself. “We nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,” said the Reverend Wright. “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards.”
Is that one of those “things I don’t always agree with”? Well, Senator Obama isn’t saying, responding merely that he wasn’t in church that morning.
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There are many preachers who would be happy to tell their congregations “God damn America.” But Barack Obama is not supposed to be the candidate of the America-damners: He’s not the Reverend Al Sharpton or the Reverend Jesse Jackson or the rest of the racial-grievance mongers. Obama is meant to be the man who transcends the divisions of race, the candidate who doesn’t damn America but “heals” it — if you believe, as many Democrats do, that America needs healing.
I'd like to check the record as to Obama's whereabouts on Sept. 16th, 2001. If he wasn't in church that day -- where the hell was he?
And is he really trying to tell us no one, no one informed him Wright had laid the blame for the deaths of 3000 Americans, quite predictably, at the feet of American evil?
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— LauraW Here's a few that cracked me up; the rest are at the link.
- Candidate said she could not provide a writing sample because all of her writing had been for the CIA and it was "classified."
I'm using that one. I can't even give you my resume. 'Darkish-Grey Ops.' Shhh. Trust me, I'm a shoo-in.
- Candidate told the interviewer he was fired for beating up his last boss.- When an applicant was offered food before the interview, he declined saying he didn't want to line his stomach with grease before going out drinking.
- Candidate flushed the toilet while talking to interviewer during phone interview.
Classy.
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— Ace Yes, this is old. So what? You haven't heard it.
The band is "The Bastard Fairies."
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