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March 13, 2014

Flight 370: Let the Confusion Continue
— Ace

The bombshell from the WSJ is either right, right in the basics but wrong in the particulars (it wasn't the engines sending that data to a satellite, but an onboard system monitoring all systems), or just completely wrong, depending on who you ask.

I did good work today. I'm knocking off early.

Open Thread.

Oh: Maybe there should be some actual politics on a political blog.

So here's Chris Matthews saying the Senate is lost to Harry Reid.

And here's Harry Reid proving that old maxim from the Bible, "Wow, that old guy smells like ass and talks like stupid."

I think that's from Psalms.

A fuller explanation, from someone in or close to the CIA I think, for the current scandal alleging the CIA spied on Congress.

Via @rdbrewer4, somethin' cute:

Posted by: Ace at 01:56 PM | Comments (1117)
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1 First?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 13, 2014 01:56 PM (V70Uh)

2 I keep thinking an FMS might send data, but why would an EMS? FMS: flight management system EMS: engine management system

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 01:58 PM (3R7WS)

3 I did good work today. You did . The Gibson post was excellent .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 13, 2014 01:59 PM (XWw96)

4 It's obvious what happened. Has nobody ever watched LOST?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 13, 2014 01:59 PM (T0NGe)

5 I asked a friend who's a Boeing engineer about this WSJ report today. He did a tap-dance that would have made Bojangles proud.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 01:59 PM (MLvXa)

6 First? I suspect that this will come down to Scandi incompetence as most things do.

Posted by: Mooch at March 13, 2014 02:00 PM (611Rk)

7 Tell me did the wind sweep you off your feet
Did you finally get the chance to dance along the light of day
And head back to the Milky Way
And tell me, did Venus blow your mind
Was it everything you wanted to find
And did you miss me while you were looking for yourself out there

Posted by: Obama For Suckers at March 13, 2014 02:00 PM (e8kgV)

8 It's obvious what happened.

I'm starting to understand why your species has never gotten off your rock.

Posted by: Zklpxk at March 13, 2014 02:00 PM (ZKzrr)

9 I just did some checks with Google Earth. Worst case scenario: Plane flew in one direction once contact was lost and eventually ran out of fuel puts the search area equivalent to the diameter of the moon. I don't think the worst case scenario is that credible, but there you go.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:00 PM (3R7WS)

10 Yeah, Ace, I loved your post today on that thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:01 PM (IW1TI)

11 As much as my personal inner conspiracy theorist wants to spin a convoluted plan out of all this (a la Moonraker where the terrorists hijacked the plane for their own purposes), a more simple explanation is probably more likely to be correct.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 13, 2014 02:01 PM (TGgNi)

12
Boss, da plane, da plane.

Posted by: Herve Villechaise at March 13, 2014 02:02 PM (gorVZ)

13 Anyone arguing the Civil War in this thread gets an arrow to the knee.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 02:02 PM (oFCZn)

14 Snatched up by the Mother Ship.

Posted by: huerfano at March 13, 2014 02:02 PM (bAGA/)

15 They're all dead. And that's what matters. So this mystery is for our benefit, our amusement. Those passengers and crew of Flight 370 are dead and will stay dead until our mystery is solved, if ever.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:03 PM (IW1TI)

16 Let me out and I'll find it.

Posted by: OJ at March 13, 2014 02:03 PM (C94J7)

17 Meanwhile, SCOAMF decides that some salaried people should have overtime pay, too:

http://tinyurl.com/o8k5g3g

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 13, 2014 02:03 PM (YEelc)

I did good work today. I'm knocking off early.

Yes you did, Ace. ...Hope you're feeling better.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 02:03 PM (8quPO)

Maylasia is really inconsiderate by having daytime when the civilized world has nighttime, so no real news comes out during our day and we can't keep an eye on them at night.

I'm going to write a memo.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 02:04 PM (A0sHn)

20 OT: BREAKING - JON CORZINE'S SON, JEFFREY, DEAD AT 31. No other info announced as of yet. Condolences.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2014 02:04 PM (olDqf)

21 13 Anyone arguing the Civil War in this thread gets an arrow to the knee. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 06:02 PM (oFCZn) Crossbow or longbow?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 13, 2014 02:04 PM (T0NGe)

22 That plane was in the air for 400 hours.

Posted by: Shiela Jenteal Jackson Lee at March 13, 2014 02:04 PM (/rlXg)

23 I suspect that many people will be eating the remains of Flight 370 within a few weeks, depending on the wind direction.

Posted by: Soylent Malaysia at March 13, 2014 02:04 PM (yhJhK)

24 CNN sucks.

Posted by: tasker at March 13, 2014 02:04 PM (RJMhd)

Crossbow or longbow?

Now you've done it.......

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 13, 2014 02:05 PM (CpbrP)

26 Ace's post today Comparative Ethics And Technology was worthy of a Cronkite.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:05 PM (IW1TI)

27 And I'm kind of expecting I'll get hit with some sort of mandatory corporate "don't talk to the fucking media about our products when they're in the news" training.

Posted by: HR needs a beer at March 13, 2014 02:05 PM (ZKzrr)

28 >>I did good work today. I'm knocking off early.

You totally over did it today.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 02:05 PM (slXFW)

29 kinda want to sit through Langoliers again

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 02:05 PM (bStrg)

30 What I find the most disturbing about the entire scenario so far is the fact that the airplane stopped squawking at EXACTLY the time it was handed off from Malaysian ATC to Ho Chi Minh City ATC. No one...NO ONE was watching that airplane when it disappeared.

Flight crews don't wait long to check in with the next station after they're handed off. And yet this one went from "All right. Good night." to gone in sixty seconds.

When they're not stonewalling they're flat-out lying. But that's not surprising, considering how well it has worked for Obastard.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:06 PM (MLvXa)

31 Good for you. I knocked off all day today. Mighty relaxing.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 13, 2014 02:06 PM (IXrOn)

32 They're both dead and alive.

Posted by: Schrodinger's Cat at March 13, 2014 02:06 PM (yhJhK)

So this mystery is for our benefit, our amusement.

It's of more than passing importance to the tens of millions of people who get on airplanes each day to know whether we have terror, psychosis, military mischief, metal fatigue or anal probers to put at the top of our "pay attention to that" list.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 02:06 PM (A0sHn)

34 22 That plane was in the air for 400 hours. Posted by: Shiela Jenteal Jackson Lee at March 13, 2014 06:04 PM (/rlXg) You know how long it must have took to wind that rubber band?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2014 02:07 PM (olDqf)

35 I am starting to believe the aircraft did not suffer a catastrophic event at the moment contact was lost. It's difficult to hide that much fuel on the water, and the land in that area, particularly near the beach, is heavily populated. Add in a healthy amount of shipping traffic, and I don't think we would have gotten this far without finding debris.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:07 PM (3R7WS)

36
Also over at the Blaze, see Miss Lindsey Graham telling Kerry when he thought he was off mic, "let me know what I can do to help you with Boehner".

These fuckin people hate us.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2014 02:08 PM (gorVZ)

What I find the most disturbing about the entire scenario so far is the fact that the airplane stopped squawking at EXACTLY the time it was handed off from Malaysian ATC to Ho Chi Minh City ATC. No one...NO ONE was watching that airplane when it disappeared.

Flight crews don't wait long to check in with the next station after they're handed off. And yet this one went from "All right. Good night." to gone in sixty seconds.

If you wanted to divert a plane, what better time?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 13, 2014 02:08 PM (CpbrP)

38 I suppose I should cook some rice.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 02:08 PM (dfYL9)

39 If it had landed China may well have flipped over.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:08 PM (bitz6)

40 Agonizing for the families of this flight. We are being jerked around. Mostly by the media at this point.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 13, 2014 02:08 PM (IXrOn)

41 BREAKING NEWS : According to Malaysian authorities, the area to be searched for the missing airplane will be reduced to planet Earth.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 02:08 PM (slXFW)

42 And here's Harry Reid proving that old maxim from the Bible, "Wow, that old guy smells like ass and talks like stupid." ********* Is he talking about the tourists at the Capitol again?

Posted by: tasker at March 13, 2014 02:09 PM (RJMhd)

43 22Â That plane was in the air for 400 hours. just thank God that it didnt crash into guam...the whole island may have capsized...

Posted by: sound awake at March 13, 2014 02:09 PM (fKOqs)

44 It didn't have enough fuel to reach any other planets.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:09 PM (bitz6)

45 15 They're all dead. And that's what matters. So this mystery is for our benefit, our amusement. Those passengers and crew of Flight 370 are dead and will stay dead until our mystery is solved, if ever. Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 06:03 PM (IW1TI) _______ Yep. But printing that in a newspaper gets very few hits. Printing all sorts of conspiracy theories....ratings gold!!

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at March 13, 2014 02:10 PM (0LHZx)

46 REPORT: place spotted in Thailand

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 02:10 PM (e8kgV)

47 Soon we will crash the 777 into the Kremlin.

Posted by: Ukrainian Separatists United at March 13, 2014 02:10 PM (D+lxs)

48 29 kinda want to sit through Langoliers again Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (bStrg) Weird. The whole thing is on youtube and I was watching bits and pieces of it last night.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 02:10 PM (oFCZn)

49 #37 Precisely.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:10 PM (MLvXa)

50 I'll bet that wherever Flight 370 is, my tax refund is also. It's been 5 weeks and still no sign of my tax refund.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:11 PM (IW1TI)

51 Lose plane, invade Ukraine, find plane. In Soviet Russia, missing plane finds you!

Posted by: Not Too Funny Guy at March 13, 2014 02:11 PM (yhJhK)

52 I do not get the Reid thing. I would love to know how a leftie reacts to this (fly on the wall analysis). Does it really do anything?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 13, 2014 02:11 PM (IXrOn)

53 I am tellin y'all, it is effin d.b. cooper .

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:11 PM (rDidD)

54 41 BREAKING NEWS : According to Malaysian authorities, the area to be searched for the missing airplane will be reduced to planet Earth. Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (slXFW) *looks in sock drawer* Nope, nothing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 02:12 PM (oFCZn)

55 As I get older I understand how men can smell like ass. I also understand that every old dude gets wire like hairs growing out of their ears and nose and eyebrows. Getting old sucks. I am to the point now where I am delighted when I have a nice clean BM and can sleep through the night.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 02:12 PM (jucos)

56 If those sister-humping rednecks in NASCAR can send out engine telemetry, surely a highly sophisticated Boeing 777 would be setup to do the same. Just without all of the banjo-picking and yee-hawing.

Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2014 02:12 PM (UzPAd)

57 46 REPORT: place spotted in Thailand Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (e8kgV) **************** Place?

Posted by: tasker at March 13, 2014 02:12 PM (RJMhd)

58 There was a link that Niedermeyer's Dead Horse posted earlier today. I was reading through it and one of the aviation experts they interviewed had someone talking about a service issue with fuselage cracking specifically around the antenna housing. If they had a sudden de-pressurization the 777 is designed to start shutting down systems. So who knows. I think it will be one of those great mysteries that will go on for a long time.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 13, 2014 02:12 PM (/rlXg)

59 I'm just thankful we've in daylight savings time now, which gives searchers one more hour of valuable time to ...uh...search.

Posted by: Hawk lurking at March 13, 2014 02:13 PM (CYS6Q)

60 Has nobody thought to call 411?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 13, 2014 02:13 PM (CpbrP)

61 It's been a week. Bangkok has them now.

Posted by: LaSalle Dubois at March 13, 2014 02:13 PM (yhJhK)

62 Definitely not in the Sam's Club Parking lot. They should put some kind of tracking device on those things. It could ping every few seconds.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:13 PM (bitz6)

63 Maylasia is really inconsiderate by having daytime when the civilized world has nighttime, so no real news comes out during our day and we can't keep an eye on them at night. I'm going to write a memo. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 06:04 PM (A0sHn) We use to live in Singapore and Hong Kong. Towards the end of our time there, my husband was working with an US headhunter. She calls at midnight one night. I answer the phone all groggy and she asks for my husband. I said, "He's sleeping." She says, "Oh...what time is it there." I said, "It's midnight". She says, "I can never remember if you guys are 12 hours ahead of us or 12 hours behind us."

Told my husband the next morning that he was in deep shit if she was the one responsible for finding him a new job.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 02:13 PM (bCEmE)

64 as organized as malaysia is they will accidentally find amelia.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:13 PM (rDidD)

65 And after you find the missing 777, find us!

Posted by: Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan at March 13, 2014 02:14 PM (BAS5M)

66 BREAKING NEWS : According to Malaysian authorities, the area to be searched for the missing airplane will be reduced to planet Earth.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (slXFW)

Why?

Posted by: Empire Strikes Back at March 13, 2014 02:14 PM (nqBYe)

67 They were delicious.

Posted by: Starving North Koreans at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (M5APF)

68 Whatever happened to the plane happened quickly, otherwise at least one passenger would have managed to get a text out. Although a course change might not have been n o ticed by passengers.

Posted by: votermom at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (25RWp)

69 And after you find the missing 777, find us!

We did, and you were delicious.

Posted by: The sharks at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (YEelc)

70 The Koch Brothers used dirty foreign Chamber of Commerce money to hijack and steal Flight 370!

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (KbrNh)

71 A picture of a mommy and her baby always makes the day brighter.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (M/TDA)

72 They couldn't have just vanished.

Posted by: D.B. Cooper at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (bitz6)

73 BREAKING NEWS : According to Malaysian authorities, the area to be searched for the missing airplane will be reduced to planet Earth. Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (slXFW) Heh, heh, heh.

Posted by: The Gray Aliens at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (AymDN)

74 Shit I can't find my ass even with this map.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 13, 2014 02:15 PM (oFCZn)

75 Holy shit, we found Jimmy Hoffa buried under Nguyens woopie parlor.

Posted by: Malaysian Seach And Rescue. at March 13, 2014 02:16 PM (/rlXg)

76 There also seems to be a reluctance to admit how big the planet is to we puny humans. People are wondering how can we not find it?? Because oceans are vast, jungles are thick, and trees make a formidable canopy, that's why.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:16 PM (IW1TI)

She says, "I can never remember if you guys are 12 hours ahead of us or 12 hours behind us."

That is priceless.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 02:16 PM (A0sHn)

BREAKING - JON CORZINE'S SON, JEFFREY, DEAD AT 31.

Breaking MF GLOBAL STILL BROKE; CLIENTS STILL SCREWED; CORZINE LIVING LARGE

Posted by: not in a forgiving mood at March 13, 2014 02:17 PM (D+lxs)

79 They couldn't have just vanished.

Posted by: D.B. Cooper at March 13, 2014 06:15 PM (bitz6)

Why yes, yes they could.

Posted by: Flight 19 of five TBM Avengers in 1945 at March 13, 2014 02:18 PM (BAS5M)

80 anyone else have a little snicker at the expense of DiFI over the CIA spying on them thing?

it was ok when they found out WE are, you know the little folks. or Congress

they work for us but believe They shouldn't be spied on, because privacy and ......?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:18 PM (nqBYe)

81 Good god. Kerry gives Russia a Monday deadline. Geez. Louise. What's he gonna do if they don't comply? Stomp his foot?

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:18 PM (M/TDA)

82 Anyone think to check Michele Obama's landing strip? I denounce myself.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 13, 2014 02:18 PM (/rlXg)

83 @30 I have those same concerns. Lacking a catastrophic event, there are few options for the transponder to quit communicating, particularly for it to stop and the flight crew or ATC not to pick up on it. In either event, who was ever in control would be entering airspace without notifying who they were or ATC's knowledge. The number of scenarios then start dwindling pretty fast. Absent complete incompetence in the search crews, foul play is starting to become the number one probability. And as it gets stronger, nations that either have poor infrastructure and/or closed authoritarian societies seem to be more likely candidates for finding the planes. Absent a catastrophic event putting the plane in the Gulf of Thailand, there are not many rational scenarios for it ditching in other bodies of water. A competent crew would have expected most of the flight to be over land, and terrorist would want someone to know what they did. Even the theories of remote hijacking are not plausible with a competent crew.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:18 PM (3R7WS)

84 When my father loses his glasses, they're usually on the top of his head. brb, checkin dad's head for a 777

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:18 PM (IW1TI)

85 A dreamer of pictures I run in the night You see us together, Chasing the moonlight, My Synonym Girl.

Posted by: that 70s earworm at March 13, 2014 02:19 PM (KgN8K)

86 Suckers .

Posted by: David Copperfield at March 13, 2014 02:19 PM (XWw96)

87 57 46 REPORT: place spotted in Thailand Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (e8kgV) **************** Place? Posted by: tasker at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (RJMhd) Harry Reid's Joy-Boy BarÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2014 02:19 PM (olDqf)

88 I keep thinking an FMS might send data, but why would an EMS?

I would suspect that the engines are on a power-by-hour program with GE or Rolls or Pratt... The engine OEM monitors the hell out of them. The engines are by far the most valuable item on an aircraft

Posted by: phreshone at March 13, 2014 02:19 PM (Q6pxP)

89 brb checking under the couch cushions where the remotes usually end up.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 13, 2014 02:19 PM (BAS5M)

anyone else have a ~~little snicker~~ schadengasm at the expense of DiFI over the CIA spying on them thing?

Why, yes.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 13, 2014 02:19 PM (A0sHn)

91 80 They couldn't have just vanished. Posted by: D.B. Cooper at March 13, 2014 06:15 PM (bitz6) Why yes, yes they could. Posted by: Flight 19 of five TBM Avengers in 1945 at March 13, 2014 06:18 PM (BAS5M) Word.

Posted by: Two of Your Search Planes at March 13, 2014 02:19 PM (Aif/5)

92 A picture of a mommy and her baby always makes the day brighter.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:15 PM (M/TDA)

Sarah Jessica Parker is truly a great mother.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 13, 2014 02:20 PM (WdbF7)

93 22 That plane was in the air for 400 hours. Great, that means it is still airborne. Always count on Miss Sheila to provide heart warming news!

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:20 PM (3R7WS)

94 There also seems to be a reluctance to admit how big the planet is to we puny humans.

Then we might have to admit we can't control it, and the whole eco-totalitarian scheme falls apart.

Posted by: HR needs a beer at March 13, 2014 02:20 PM (ZKzrr)

Whatever happened to the plane happened quickly, otherwise at least one passenger would have managed to get a text out.

You need a cell tower in range to accept the text message. Aint too many cell towers in the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: No, I cannot hear you now at March 13, 2014 02:20 PM (D+lxs)

96 Is there anyone in the search party without his eyes 3/4s closed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:20 PM (bitz6)

97 Indian Ocean is rayciss. Should be Native American Ocean.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2014 02:21 PM (olDqf)

98 93 I needed that laugh today.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:21 PM (M/TDA)

99 50 I'll bet that wherever Flight 370 is, my tax refund is also. It's been 5 weeks and still no sign of my tax refund. Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 06:11 PM (IW1TI) --- A what?

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at March 13, 2014 02:21 PM (N/cFh)

100 Yeah, Radish, and we might have to admit we don't have all the answers to the Universe, either.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:21 PM (IW1TI)

101 Has anyone investigated the Tea Party in this disappearance yet?

Posted by: --- at March 13, 2014 02:21 PM (NrilE)

102 Indian Ocean is rayciss. Should be Native American Ocean. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 13, 2014 06:21 PM (olDqf) Dot Not Feather Ocean

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 02:21 PM (bCEmE)

103 Huh? After Helping To Lift Sanctions Against Iran, Kerry Says U.S. Has Made It Clear Iran Is Â“Not Open For BusinessÂ”Â… Baffling to say the least. Weasel Zippers

?? These are the stupidest people in the world

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 02:22 PM (t3UFN)

104 Is that a Malaysian 777 in your pocket, or...no, it's not a joke. Is that a 777 in your pocket? We lost one.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 02:22 PM (oFCZn)

105 apparently aircrew switch transponders to standby if changing codes so it is not sqwaking while during the input sequence. you would change codes in case of emergency, I think you input 7500 for hijacking, 7500 for emergency.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:22 PM (rDidD)

106 Occam's Razor would dictate that if we cannot find the debris field, the simplest explanation is that there IS no debris field.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:22 PM (MLvXa)

107 Here's my guess. Malaysia is right - as far as they know. My guess is some of the data being released is from spy satellites whose capabilities we don't want to reveal. How do the WSJ sources know the engines are running? I'm guessing they tried to say, Oh, the engines were sending data back. Malaysia says definitely not, no way. Then they said, oh, it's the satcomms pinging. Again, Malaysia is saying no, no, no. China would really like to know what spy sat capabilities we have watching over that area. America obviously wants to keep that a secret.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 02:22 PM (ZPrif)

108 82 Maybe a stern glare and a chin gesture. We have turned into the three stooges of diplomacy. Wait, that would actually have more gravitas.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 13, 2014 02:22 PM (TGgNi)

109 We need to find the plane to know where it is.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 13, 2014 02:22 PM (C94J7)

110 while a boring crash landing in the ocean is most likely, I can't figure out why no one is wildly speculating that it was just outright stolen and flown to some terrorist camp/wasteland for future use as a WMD. We're all thinking it.

Posted by: ss at March 13, 2014 02:23 PM (m5B7W)

111 82 Good god. Kerry gives Russia a Monday deadline. Geez. Louise. What's he gonna do if they don't comply? Call Putin bossy.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:23 PM (3R7WS)

112 Just to be clear, I don't know jackshit. I'm just trying to make sense of this odd disconnect between the WSJ (two sources) and the Malaysian denials.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 02:23 PM (ZPrif)

113 Is that a Malaysian 777 in your pocket, or...no, it's not a joke. Is that a 777 in your pocket? We lost one. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 06:22 PM (oFCZn) is that a Malaysian 777 in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 02:23 PM (t3UFN)

114 IT'S NOT OVER! YOU WILL NOT IGNORE ME!

Posted by: psycho ex-gf of Old Man Winter at March 13, 2014 02:24 PM (KgN8K)

115 I think the plane must be wherever my piÃ±a colada monkey sex gel is. Doesn't matter though, Dave just told me I can't have any.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at March 13, 2014 02:24 PM (N/cFh)

116

Is that a 777 in your pocket? We lost one.

Andrei, you've lost another 777?

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt from Hunt for Red October at March 13, 2014 02:24 PM (A0sHn)

117 Horses are psychic vampires, they drain IQ points from their owners.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 02:24 PM (kxSZr)

118 Plane, bird, whatever.

Posted by: GODZILLA at March 13, 2014 02:24 PM (slXFW)

119 That's it! I'm sick of this shit! Everybody go out to your garage-right now-and check for that Malaysian Airlines jet. I'm tired of this drama, someone has to have it, which one of you morons is it?

Posted by: Weirddave at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (N/cFh)

120 If we cannot find the debris field after searching every possible square foot, then it remains that there exists no debris field.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (IW1TI)

121 I felt pretty much the same the last time I lost my car keys .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (XWw96)

122 nevergiveup, 3 more years of this.
we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (nqBYe)

123 Malaysia recruits witch doctors to find missing Boeing passenger jet Ibrahim Mat Zin, famous shaman called Â‘king of the witch doctorsÂ’ performs ritual at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Reports say he was invited by government officials. Oh yeah Top men, Top Men

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (t3UFN)

124 Just to be clear, I don't know jackshit. I'm just trying to make sense of this odd disconnect between the WSJ (two sources) and the Malaysian denials. ** I said at the end of the other thread that the US may well be holding info close to the vest because, if the plane was hijacked and landed, they would need time to put together a plane of attack/recovery. Then again. I'm pulling it out of my ass.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (DmNpO)

125 I think my car keys and remote may have been aboard.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (bitz6)

126 Are we arguing the Civil War, crazy lost airplane theories or something else?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 13, 2014 02:25 PM (GEICT)

127 Emergency squawk is 7700. 7600 is "lost communications" and 7500 is "Hijack".

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:26 PM (MLvXa)

128 Raylan Givens is never gonna find me this time.

Posted by: Drew Thompson, passenger on Flight 370 at March 13, 2014 02:26 PM (stVgz)

129

A 777 missing mysteriously over the Indian Ocean?

This is a job for . . .

Dirk Pitt and NUMA!

Posted by: Clive Cussler at March 13, 2014 02:26 PM (BAS5M)

130 89 I would suspect that the engines are on a power-by-hour program I was thinking from a purely maintenance standpoint, as the data can be pulled by maintenance on the ground very easily. But if the engines are leased, then I can understand why GE, RR, Pratt would want that data sent directly to OEM without relying on the airline.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:27 PM (3R7WS)

131 109 Putin laughs and downs another shot of vodka.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:27 PM (M/TDA)

132 A real mystery. There aren't many like this.

Posted by: Son of Liberty at March 13, 2014 02:27 PM (BPKIW)

133 Ted Cruz on CSpan-2 right now. Speaking from the Senate floor about Ukraine.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:27 PM (DmNpO)

134 looks in the drier for the sock stealing gremlins.
It's probably the same gremlins stealing da plane, da plane.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:27 PM (nqBYe)

135 Well, it's either a groundhog or a raccoon, either way the trap is set. Did I mention it's legal to shoot, gas or drown caught animals that are destructive to property in my state? (which include both raccoons and groundhogs according to our regulations!) Granted, "shoot" is out since I can't discharge a firearm inside the county limits (and I don't feel like driving out to my aunt's just to deal with this.) Drowning is a PITA, but lucky for me, lab work has taught me well about how to gas animals with limited resources. (And before anyone says "aww how mean." it's illegal to relocate if it's a groundhog

)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 02:27 PM (HDwDg)

136 30 What I find the most disturbing about the entire scenario so far is the fact that the airplane stopped squawking at EXACTLY the time it was handed off from Malaysian ATC to Ho Chi Minh City ATC. No one...NO ONE was watching that airplane when it disappeared.

Flight crews don't wait long to check in with the next station after they're handed off. And yet this one went from "All right. Good night." to gone in sixty seconds.

When they're not stonewalling they're flat-out lying. But that's not surprising, considering how well it has worked for Obastard.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:06 PM (MLvXa)

I think this proves it disappeared intentionally , it gave them a head start before the search started.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at March 13, 2014 02:28 PM (AWmfW)

137

The Boeing was delicious, but I prefer the subtle flavors of an Airbus from Thailand.

Posted by: Megashark! at March 13, 2014 02:28 PM (D+lxs)

138 130 OMG. You are so correct! Where's Dirk when the world needs him?

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:28 PM (M/TDA)

139 108 that makes sense

Posted by: votermom at March 13, 2014 02:28 PM (LlySn)

140 @ Boss Moss , I hit the horn button on my backup set . Nothing .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 13, 2014 02:28 PM (XWw96)

141 If it's been flying for 400 hours it could be anywhere, the moon even.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 02:28 PM (kxSZr)

142 Gas is $3.53/gal and rising quickly. If conquering Ukraine or Crimea or wherever will save me gas money, I'm all for it. Otherwise..

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:29 PM (IW1TI)

143 I'm suing.

Posted by: Rod Serling at March 13, 2014 02:29 PM (fY2bK)

144
Open thread? Gotacha:

These Three Questions Tell You If Your Relationship Is Likely to Last

Based on research from OKCupid's four Harvard-trained mathematicians who conducted surveys on the dating site's singles. Three questions tested above all others in determining if you and someone else have long-term potential are:

1. "Do you like horror movies?"
2. "Have you ever traveled around another country alone?"
3. "Wouldn't it be fun to chuck it all and go live on a sailboat?"

http://tinyurl.com/mq5ouqn

1. Not particulary
2. Yes
3. No.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 02:29 PM (kdS6q)

145 They will not return with sore asses.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 02:29 PM (r7mtu)

146 I don't think they have 400 hours of fuel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:30 PM (bitz6)

147 The plane may be intact if it was hijacked, but the passengers are almost certainly dead. Unless it was aliens/time vortex.

Posted by: votermom at March 13, 2014 02:30 PM (LlySn)

148 The PPRUNE site has interesting discussion of US might have such data about engines running when Malaysia does not. http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-149.html

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 02:30 PM (ZPrif)

149 NDH @125 What's coming out of your ass looks mighty plausible from here.

Five days after Air France went down in the middle of the Atlantic they found a section of the tail floating. There is still not one seat cushion from MH370.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:30 PM (MLvXa)

150 Via Twitter :
Signficant: Two communications systems on the missing Malaysian Airlines flight shut down separately-14 mins apart

http://tinyurl.com/l45qy4v

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 02:30 PM (slXFW)

151

Malaysia recruits witch doctors to find missing Boeing passenger jet
Ibrahim Mat Zin, famous shaman called Â‘king of the witch doctorsÂ’ performs ritual at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Reports say he was invited by government officials.

Oh yeah Top men, Top Men

Need an sign language guy? Im available.

Posted by: Mandela Funeral Sign Language Guy at March 13, 2014 02:30 PM (BAS5M)

152 I have it. Bigger on the inside, you know.

Posted by: The Tardis at March 13, 2014 02:31 PM (A0sHn)

153 There are any number of insults in the Psalms, However, perhaps this quote from 2 Peter 2 might be more appropriate: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. 17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 02:31 PM (XyM/Y)

154 125 NDH, you were clear. I'm trying to use my training in FMEA and PRA to walkthrough what may have happened, but otherwise, its coming out of my ass too. I simply don't know enough about the systems on 777. If it was a missing Space Shuttle, I'd have more information.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:31 PM (3R7WS)

155

nevergiveup, 3 more years of this.

It will Get Out of Control and
we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 06:25 PM (nqBYe)

FIFY

Posted by: Admiral Painter at March 13, 2014 02:31 PM (D+lxs)

156 And yes, ace. I know you were kidding.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 02:32 PM (XyM/Y)

157 153 I have it. Bigger on the inside, you know. Posted by: The Tardis at March 13, 2014 06:31 PM (A0sHn) --- Hello, Sexy.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at March 13, 2014 02:32 PM (N/cFh)

158 "Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure."

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 02:32 PM (slXFW)

159 107 Occam's Razor would dictate that if we cannot find the debris field, the simplest explanation is that there IS no debris field. Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:22 PM (MLvXa) Hey.... gimme back my razor!

Posted by: Occam at March 13, 2014 02:33 PM (84gbM)

160 Thanks for the link Dr. Spank. Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure. The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m. This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said. ************* Why the 15 minute gap? Any ideas?

Posted by: tasker at March 13, 2014 02:34 PM (RJMhd)

161 Did I mention it's legal to shoot, gas or drown caught animals that are destructive to property in my state? You mean like, liberals?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 13, 2014 02:34 PM (qfzh9)

162 Ace's post today Comparative Ethics And Technology was worthy of a Cronkite. Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (IW1TI) Wellllll.....

Posted by: Post-Tet Cronkite at March 13, 2014 02:34 PM (fkPNN)

163 telepathic
fortune teller
clairvoyant

you'd think one would step up and tell us what happened/

amirite?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:34 PM (nqBYe)

164 Schrodingers Cat walks into a Bar. And doesn't.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 02:34 PM (jucos)

165 Wow, what if this happened to a high-speed train?

Posted by: Slow Joey B. at March 13, 2014 02:34 PM (MMC8r)

166 Hmmmm..... has anyone looked in... the Bermuda Triangle???

Posted by: The OTHER theory... at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (84gbM)

167 Maybe the second one turned off when they hit the ocean floor at mach 5.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (bitz6)

168 Anyone remember CBS Radio Mystery Theater in the 70's? One episode The Time Fold was about a small private jet that gets pulled into space: In this bizarre science-fiction tale, an ill-fated plane gets trapped in a space-time variance in 1979 and ends up with all its passengers in a space station a thousand years after. Herman Munster (Fred Gwynne) was in this episode. You can listen to all the eps online.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (IW1TI)

169 Not to detract from the colossal yuck factor of John McCain, but Hairy Reed is The Worst Living Senator. Pat Gray named him the Worst Living Human Being in the World. I tend to agree.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ready to get Liquored Up at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (RwwCT)

170 NDH @125 What's coming out of your ass looks mighty plausible from here. Five days after Air France went down in the middle of the Atlantic they found a section of the tail floating. There is still not one seat cushion from MH370. *** I guess it could be possible that Malaysia is playing the fool to buy timel, but I'd bet the US is going it alone, at least in part. I'm beginning to understand how the mystery of Amelia Earhart remained so compelling for decades.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (DmNpO)

171 tasker to have another gps system in place or to shake their private compass?

ok yeah i don't know.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (nqBYe)

172 Why the 15 minute gap? Any ideas? Mile high club .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (XWw96)

173 well we do not have aclue about anything except that we have not clue where the plane is. I hate to be selfish / ruthless but if we know it is a hole in the ground or no survivors, no reason to divulge any intelligence capabilities.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:35 PM (rDidD)

174

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (CpbrP)

ABC News is saying what you just said.

Posted by: rd at March 13, 2014 02:36 PM (D+lxs)

175 Why the 15 minute gap?

Slow moving fire? It was made by Boeing.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 02:36 PM (kxSZr)

176 I mindfreaked the world!

Posted by: Criss Angel at March 13, 2014 02:36 PM (BAS5M)

177 Maybe they watched part of the in flight movie.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:37 PM (bitz6)

178 Not here, but you are welcome to redouble your search efforts.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's Sniz at March 13, 2014 02:37 PM (Kkt/i)

179 yeah 15 minutes? would it take time for another system failure if the first was?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:37 PM (nqBYe)

180 NDH, you were clear. I'm trying to use my training in FMEA and PRA to walkthrough what may have happened, but otherwise, its coming out of my ass too. I simply don't know enough about the systems on 777. If it was a missing Space Shuttle, I'd have more information. *** I am always in awe of the wisdom of crowds which occurs on this blog. There is so much diversity of knowledge here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:37 PM (DmNpO)

181 Why the 15 minute gap? Any ideas? -- Adrenaline nerves: "Oh, yeah, forgot about that other switch"

Posted by: votermom at March 13, 2014 02:37 PM (GSIDW)

182 @151 considering a roughly 2000 fpm fall, and 14 minutes would be about the time for an initial catastrophic event to occur prior to the final crash event. That's a small diameter search area in comparison. Otherwise I'm not sure the significance of the information. I guess it could take someone 14 minutes to figure out how to disable other communications, but that seems a long time. Consider, if this was terrorism/hijacking, these people were competent enough to pull it off without a message getting out. If its a corrupt flight crew, they would disable the communications pretty fast. If it was a talented hijacked, they likely wouldn't be much slower.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:37 PM (3R7WS)

183 wrt psychics http://is.gd/LTwOTi

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 02:38 PM (KgN8K)

184 162 Did I mention it's legal to shoot, gas or drown caught animals that are destructive to property in my state? You mean like, liberals? Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (qfzh9) So, you say we'll be gone awhile? *grabs CAR-15, 782-Gear, Ammo Vest and Debit Card*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 13, 2014 02:38 PM (fkPNN)

185 'Preciate that, Dr. Spank. More confusion. Just what we need.

"Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for flying Malaysia Airlines today. Welcome to Mogadishu."

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:38 PM (MLvXa)

186 I would never fly on Malaysian Airlines, even before this. Sorry, just do not trust them enough to put my life in their hands.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:38 PM (IW1TI)

187 The bombshell from the WSJ is either right, right in the basics but wrong in the particulars, or just completely wrong, depending on who you ask. That goes for pretty much everything, doesn't it?

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 02:38 PM (sdi6R)

188 @173 Nah, it wouldn't have taken 15 minutes...

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:38 PM (3R7WS)

189 Somali Pirates?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:38 PM (bitz6)

190 The families beg to differ.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:39 PM (M/TDA)

191 >Why the 15 minute gap?

Maybe it was a slow moving disaster with the plane shutting down piece by piece. Or maybe the people in control of the plane were not super familiar with it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (slXFW)

192 Open thread fodder:

Ace has mentioned cannabis oil before, which is stripped of the components that get you high and is used to treat epilepsy. Well those backward, stodgy right wingers in the Utah Legislature have passed a bill that would legalize its use. Excellent. Helps those who need it without needing to make the state a pot free-for-all.

http://tinyurl.com/lqkwpma

We also had three legislators, in open hearings about a abuse education bill, admit that they had been sexually abused as children. Has been a very interesting session.

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (BF+2f)

193 Bigby's yikes someone actually did !

lol , well i guess we'll see if it is all balderdash.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (nqBYe)

194 One of the best crashes caught on videotape was a 747 that nearly crashed onto a beach. Just about everyone survived that crash, I think.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (IW1TI)

195 We're Asiana Airlines, something special just short of the runway.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (bitz6)

196 Getting old sucks. I am to the point now where I am delighted when I have a nice clean BM and can sleep through the night. Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (jucos) I'd pay big money for that. Even passing out, my fucking torn rotator cuff wakes me up after about four hours. I guess it beats being dead.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (0FSuD)

197 How did that pony get up on his mom's shoulder?

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (M/TDA)

198 191 Somali Pirates? Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (bitz6) Air Pirates!

Posted by: Johnny Quest at March 13, 2014 02:40 PM (84gbM)

199 It was windy here today. Very windy. When I got home from work I found my recycling bucket four doors down, but despite an extended search into the next block, I fear my trash can has met the same fate as Flight 370. Both the can and lid. Now that's mysterious.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 02:41 PM (sdi6R)

200 Is that Fatty Lumpkins and Bill Feny's Pony?

Posted by: perdogg at March 13, 2014 02:42 PM (o6/Pl)

201 I wonder if we, the U.S., have been misdirecting or searching in the wrong area so we are able to find it when no one is around and make sure we are the ones who get the recorders. if something especially bad happened, and I do not mean the shi lang running in to it, such as someone shooting it, we would have evidence.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:42 PM (rDidD)

202 Donny Most and Brooke Hogan in... Dude, Where's My Malaysian 777?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 02:42 PM (oFCZn)

203 ABC News ‏@ABC 3m BREAKING: Sources: US invest team on ground "convinced" of "manual intervention" in Flight MH370 comms. shut down: http://abcn.ws/1iikm0X

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:42 PM (DmNpO)

204 ....my housekeeper said it was aliens....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at March 13, 2014 02:42 PM (8v/hq)

205 Now they're CONVINCED....damnit. ‏@ABC 1m BREAKING: Sources: US invest team on ground "convinced" of "manual intervention" in Flight MH370 comms. shut down:

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 02:43 PM (bCEmE)

206 I wonder if we, the U.S., have been misdirecting or searching in the wrong area so we are able to find it when no one is around and make sure we are the ones who get the recorders. if something especially bad happened, and I do not mean the shi lang running in to it, such as someone shooting it, we would have evidence. *** I can't see misdirection as much as a lack of confidence in those leading the efforts. Then again, there is hero status at stake here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:43 PM (DmNpO)

207 why the 15 minute gap? why not?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at March 13, 2014 02:43 PM (8v/hq)

208

Thanks for the link Dr. Spank.

Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.

The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m.

This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.

*************

Why the 15 minute gap?

Any ideas?

Posted by: tasker at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (RJMhd)

Electrical Fault? Were they trying to isolate an electrical fire by turning off various systems? But why no radio call, even on the guard/emergency channel.

FYI -- This is not the Boeing with the Lithium Ion Batteries, that was the 787.

The Hijacker checklist had these two items separated by others?

The Co-pilot or Pilot hijacked the plane and the transponder breaker was in the dead guys working space?

Posted by: rd at March 13, 2014 02:43 PM (D+lxs)

209 They lost a humongous ship in the Atlantic ocean -remember the cannibalistic rats might get run aground in Ireland or Britain? So if one of the pilots decided to do an aloha snakbar move and took the plane off its expected course first they may never find any wreckage. I wonder if they could bleed off passenger cabin air pressure slowly so that the masks would not fall until passengers too groggy to use them or something?

Posted by: palerider at March 13, 2014 02:44 PM (dkExz)

210 I'm wondering about the flight crew, now...

Posted by: --- at March 13, 2014 02:44 PM (MMC8r)

211 that's it! the pilots couldn't drive a manual intervention

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 02:44 PM (KgN8K)

212 my housekeeper said it was aliens.... Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at March 13, 2014 legal or illegal or do you mean undocumented. I do not see the mexicans doing this.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:44 PM (rDidD)

213 someone has to have it, which one of you morons is it? Posted by: Weirddave at March 13, 2014 06:25 PM (N/cFh) It's in the conservatory with Miss Scarlett.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at March 13, 2014 02:44 PM (PZ6/M)

214 203 So we find it and know its terrorism what do you suppose our brave leader would do about it? I say a big fat nothing.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:44 PM (M/TDA)

215 http://tinyurl.com/qa8mop9 Space Weather & Depression - So Happy Together 03/11/14 There's a growing body of research indicating that depression correlates to certain cyclical changes in Space Weather parameters. This goes well beyond typical 'seasonal depression' and into the established fact that the Schumann resonance is generated between Earth and the ionosphere created by lightning, thunder-storming due to variations in the intensity of the solar wind emanating off of the Sun. The disruption of melatonin production in the human organism being caused by variations in the Schumann resonance signal via changes in geomagnetic activity from solar/cosmic perturbation has been put forth as one possible mechanism as to how space weather can impact health. This is not to say that every single case of depression can be correlated to space weather, but mass incidences and changes in the population tend to have a solar/cosmic component. Space Weather & Suicide - A Correspondence with Dr. Pyare Lal Verma ... 03/12/2014

Posted by: David Hyde at March 13, 2014 02:44 PM (MhA4j)

216 In many ways, the disappearance of the plane and all the speculation in the absence of facts on the matter is really the story of Obama.

Posted by: Acolyte at March 13, 2014 02:45 PM (C94J7)

217 It really seems like terrorism or sabotage. Terrible.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at March 13, 2014 02:45 PM (tNMLW)

218 >>> So here's Chris Matthews saying the Senate is lost to Harry Reid.

Matthews is a fool, but even the fools get it right sometimes, possibly. Which republican would be most likely to fill Reid's seat if this happened?

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 02:45 PM (BF+2f)

219 alright, so it IS suspicious.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:45 PM (nqBYe)

220 An anti-islamic video caused the plane to go down.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:46 PM (IW1TI)

221 So we find it and know its terrorism what do you suppose our brave leader would do about it? I say a big fat nothing. *** Against a Muslim country?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:46 PM (DmNpO)

222 I can't see misdirection as much as a lack of confidence in those leading the efforts. Then again, there is hero status at stake here. Posted except theby: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 I could go either way, I am only spitballin. It is so interesting cause we know nothing except what the tell and untell us.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:46 PM (rDidD)

223 What's the point of a terrorist group blowing the plane up and then not bragging about it after the fact?

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:46 PM (M/TDA)

224 207 Now they're CONVINCED....damnit. Ã¾@ABC 1m BREAKING: Sources: US invest team on ground "convinced" of "manual intervention" in Flight MH370 comms. shut down: Posted by: Tami at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (bCEmE) And there aRe chemical Weapons in Iraq... and there is no IRS coverup... And the NSA does NOT spy on Americans... And Benghazi was because of a video... And the checks in the mail....

Posted by: Romeo13.... at March 13, 2014 02:47 PM (84gbM)

225 208 NDH I also can't see misdirection nor certainty that 15 minutes means manual disabling of systems. However, I can see US putting experts on the ground due to lack of confidence and hero status. Of course, nobody would admit to either lack of confidence or hero status.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:47 PM (3R7WS)

226 legal or illegal or do you mean undocumented. I do not see the mexicans doing this. Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (rDidD) lol....actual space aliens

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at March 13, 2014 02:47 PM (8v/hq)

227 @161 "Why the 15 minute gap?"

Just winging it, but if one of the pilots were compromised he might have shut one system off first to see if the other pilot notices. Shut one down and see what happens. If nothing, shut the other one down. Or maybe he waited till the other pilot had left the flight deck to make the second shutdown.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:47 PM (MLvXa)

228 Harry Reid has lost his damn mind.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 13, 2014 02:47 PM (GrtrJ)

229 Maybe the tech guys were the objective.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:47 PM (bitz6)

230 225 they might need it for something, eh?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 02:48 PM (KgN8K)

231 219 It really seems like terrorism or sabotage. Terrible.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at March 13, 2014 06:45 PM (tNMLW)

Am still hoping for best, but fearing the worst.

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 02:48 PM (BF+2f)

232

ABC News Ã¾@ABC 3m
BREAKING: Sources: US invest team on ground "convinced" of "manual intervention" in Flight MH370 comms. shut down: http://abcn.ws/1iikm0X

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:42 PM (DmNpO)

Why do I have the feeling someone in the NTSB has said, "Enough of this Clown Car Malaysian Bullshit! Let's get this solved! I want to go home."

Posted by: rd at March 13, 2014 02:48 PM (D+lxs)

233 218 Indeed. You are so perceptive.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:49 PM (M/TDA)

234 The first 787 certified to fly with a fix for the lithium battery problem caught fire on the ground for an unrelated reason, so I'm still going with Boeing = fire.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 02:49 PM (kxSZr)

235 @PzFeed 4m DEVELOPING: Reports of a plane crash at PHL airport. Emergency personnel rushing.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 02:49 PM (bCEmE)

236 I do not have any trouble believing BA has the acars data active even on airplanes where the customer is not subscribing. It is akin to a backdoor in software. nsa loves that stuff.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:49 PM (rDidD)

237 ....my housekeeper said it was aliens....

Resident or the other kind?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 13, 2014 02:49 PM (YEelc)

238 @210 Yeah, what you said.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 02:50 PM (3R7WS)

239 Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines (which were on this 777) do have an Aircraft Condition Monitoring System (ACMS ) which reports via a VHF radio or satellite link whilst the aircraft is in-flight.

The Rolls-Royce Trent series of engines have been maintained a strong market share on wide-body aircraft due to RR being very competitive on power-by-hour maintenance contracts, on which, if they are to make money, they need to monitor the engines heavily and predict maintenance events in advance.

Posted by: phreshone at March 13, 2014 02:50 PM (Q6pxP)

240

Why the 15 minute gap?

* silence *

Posted by: Rose Mary Woods at March 13, 2014 06:36 PM (oGrEy)

[golf clap]

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 13, 2014 02:50 PM (BAS5M)

241 This sentence from the Mamet thread works for every single thread, no matter what the topic: Here, I'll try it: "The Senate is lost to Harry Reid." "And even when they got that far, they had a long slog back to actual civilization."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 02:50 PM (g4TxM)

242 I've found that when a Democrat, Leftist, Communist or Progressive mentions the Kochs that it involves the Koch corollary to Goodwin's Law, which is simply ... "I am a fluke of the universe. Don't waste your breath attempting to change my mind. I have none". It would be easier to squeeze an ObamaPhone from a rock than to save the "terrible mind" of anybody invoking the Koch corollary to Goodwin's Law.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 02:51 PM (e8kgV)

243 What's the point of a terrorist group blowing the plane up and then not bragging about it after the fact? *** The taking of the plane may not be the end game.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:51 PM (DmNpO)

244 Harry Reid should look on the bright side Being demoted to Minority Leader in the Senate would give him more time to kidnap and sexually molest young children

Posted by: TexasJew at March 13, 2014 02:51 PM (U+u4A)

245 I find it hard to believe that satellite images do not track that aircraft throughout its entire flight.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 02:51 PM (IW1TI)

246

Matthews is a fool, but even the fools get it right sometimes, possibly. Which republican would be most likely to fill Reid's seat if this happened?

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 06:45 PM (BF+2f)

ME! ME! ME!

Posted by: Bitch McConnell, Country Club Republican and Milquetoast Extraordinaire at March 13, 2014 02:51 PM (D+lxs)

247 I think that's from Psalms.

I don't know why but that made me laugh and laugh.

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 13, 2014 02:51 PM (Gk3SS)

248 Maybe they will load it with C4 and it will turn up somewhere.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:51 PM (bitz6)

249 Why do I have the feeling someone in the NTSB has said, "Enough of this Clown Car Malaysian Bullshit! Let's get this solved! I want to go home." *** that's exactly what I think.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:52 PM (DmNpO)

250

217...Space Weather & Depression

Cosmic perturbation...

Of course! That explains a lot.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 02:52 PM (8quPO)

251 If I'm not mistaken, there is a Bermuda Shorts Rhombus in the Indian Ocean. Also, Extraterrestrials are really pissed lately. (And can you blame them?)

Posted by: Ghost Riders in the Sky at March 13, 2014 02:52 PM (/cUUk)

252 201 It was windy here today. Very windy. When I got home from work I found my recycling bucket four doors down, but despite an extended search into the next block, I fear my trash can has met the same fate as Flight 370. Both the can and lid. Now that's mysterious. Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (sdi6R)

Those sneaky space aliens, is there nothing they won't do?

You know, I haven't listened to Coast to Coast in a long time, but I bet the conspiracy theories people are touting about the missing plane are fantastic. Better than a Hollywood script.

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 02:53 PM (BF+2f)

253 245 That's why blowing it up doesn't make sense. Right now I'm trending toward hijacked and on the ground.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:53 PM (M/TDA)

254 I dunno. Harry Reid is the type of guy who gives delusional morons (and that's not a good use of the word moron as we know among our fellow morons on this blog) a bad name. Let me start over--without the moron. Harry Reid is the kind of guy who gives delusional paranoid schizophrenic idiots a bad name.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 13, 2014 02:53 PM (wdHk6)

255 Ancient Alien Astronauts. Is there anything they can't do?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:53 PM (bitz6)

256 Maybe the plane catastrophically lost cabin pressure, then just flew on course until it ran out of fuel on autopilot and crashed The crew being dead or unconscious That's happened to small planes

Posted by: TexasJew at March 13, 2014 02:53 PM (U+u4A)

257 I don't know why but that made me laugh and laugh === yup that was Psomething

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 02:53 PM (KgN8K)

258 well, until we find it I hope everyone is paying very close attention to every 777 approaching the U.S.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:53 PM (rDidD)

259 248 Oh no. I hadn't even begun to think about that yet.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 02:54 PM (M/TDA)

260

Cosmic perturbation...

I used to get those all the time. A little dab of Prep H and you're good to go.

Posted by: Alan Grayson at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (BAS5M)

261 Chris Matthews talked to Harry Reid? That must have made some brains hurt.

Posted by: wth at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (wAQA5)

262 245 What's the point of a terrorist group blowing the plane up and then not bragging about it after the fact?

To create confusion and fear in the flying public.

247
I find it hard to believe that satellite images do not track that aircraft throughout its entire flight.

Satellites have better things to do, like fulfilling their purpose.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (slXFW)

263 Maybe they will load it with C4 and it will turn up somewhere. Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 06:51 PM (bitz6) maybe a huge effin nuke for someone who is not able to miniaturize one for missiles.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (rDidD)

264 Odd that not one single passenger used a cell phone to report on possible catastrophe. No Mayday calls or anything from pilot? Makes me think either terrorist hostage takeover or sudden explosion.

Posted by: Mr. Guess at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (/cUUk)

265 so if the plane was stolen.
for the plane ?
or who's on the plane?
if hijackers, don't they usually want something?

or is it someone on the plane?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (nqBYe)

266 Thanks, Guy Mohawk! Is there a good candidate to primary Miss Lindsey?

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (gjOCp)

267 Cosmic perturbation... **** Maybe that's why the Hubble telescope was going blind.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 02:55 PM (g4TxM)

268 I must say that all of this comes as a complete shock. I don't know what to say...

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 02:56 PM (BZAd3)

269 A little dab of Prep H and you're good to go. Posted by: Alan Grayson

And now we know what he uses for body wash.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 13, 2014 02:56 PM (YEelc)

270 Flying major airliner to land anywhere is going to get noticed by somebody, whether in person or by surveillance.

Posted by: --- at March 13, 2014 02:56 PM (MMC8r)

271 245 What's the point of a terrorist group blowing the plane up and then not bragging about it after the fact? *** The taking of the plane may not be the end game. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:51 PM (DmNpO) Remember the Beltway sniper??? Caused a huge ruckus... and really scared people... and we had no idea who or why... And the only claim to the 83 Beirut blast was a group called Islamic Jihad.... which believe me, we looked for but could not find, as they really did not exist. Terrorists do not always claim their acts...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 02:56 PM (84gbM)

272 Is the detachment of 36th level tech nerd story true?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 13, 2014 02:56 PM (bitz6)

273 no one has released its cargo manifest so maybe it is in there. guys over at pprune were speculating it was flying gold into china.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (rDidD)

274 so if the plane was stolen. for the plane ? or who's on the plane? if hijackers, don't they usually want something? or is it someone on the plane? *** For the plane

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (DmNpO)

275 @236 That doesn't explain the lack of any emergency communication. No call, no 7700 squawk...nothing.

Don't some cell phones work on satellites? Wouldn't a passenger have made a call in the even of a fire?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (MLvXa)

276 258 Maybe the plane catastrophically lost cabin pressure, then just flew on course until it ran out of fuel on autopilot and crashed
The crew being dead or unconscious

That doesn't explain the transponders being turned off 15 minutes apart or why it apparently changed course.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (slXFW)

277 Don't fuck with me today...I'm cosmically perturbed.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (8quPO)

278 Hijack/kidnap for hostages, unknown at this point if successful or not.

Posted by: Occam's hephew's girlfriend's brother at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (C94J7)

279 237 DEVELOPING: Reports of a plane crash at PHL airport. Emergency personnel rushing. Posted by: Tami at March 13, 2014 06:49 PM (bCEmE) Looks like a nose gear collapse. http://tinyurl.com/my9fwxd

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (sdi6R)

280

Harry Reid should look on the bright side

Being demoted to Minority Leader in the Senate would give him more time to kidnap and sexually molest young children

Posted by: TexasJew at March 13, 2014 06:51 PM (U+u4A)

My Good Friend Harry Reid does not kidnap children. He also does not accept bribes and extortion. He has minions that do that for him. He knows how to delegate.

But we can work with him to not pass any budgets for another five years. And I will be kinder to him, than I am to any Republican Senator.

Posted by: Juan McCain, Past his expiration date by a decade at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (D+lxs)

281 Wasn't there a lot of talk, not several weeks ago, about how easy it would be to hack an airplane and take it over from the ground?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 02:57 PM (BZAd3)

282 Nobody cares about sweet, young, nubile Ukrainian children than Harry Reid. Especially when they're lured into his Caucosa Temple.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 13, 2014 02:58 PM (dvRYt)

283 237 @PzFeed 4m DEVELOPING: Reports of a plane crash at PHL airport. Emergency personnel rushing. Posted by: Tami at March 13, 2014 06:49 PM (bCEmE)

How horrible! Hope everyone is okay. You know, it is lucky I don't have a fear of flying, because otherwise after this last week I would probably never, EVER fly again. Ever.

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 02:58 PM (BF+2f)

284 I gotta tell ya, I am amazed that an Arab pilot for Saudi Air, or Paki Air, or other Arab Airs has not crashed a plane out of NY Kennedy yet ( other than the Egypt Air that went swimming in the Atlantic)?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 02:58 PM (t3UFN)

285 Posted by: Mr. Guess at March 13, 2014 06:55 PM (/cUUk) I think they were out of range of any cell towers, so unless someone had a Sat Cell phone.... the only Xmiter powerful enough to reach land would be the planes, which was 'turned off'?

Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 02:59 PM (84gbM)

286 I saw Cosmic Perturbation open for Ancient Aliens back in '74.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate at March 13, 2014 02:59 PM (/cUUk)

287 kinda want to sit through Langoliers again

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (bStrg)

Late to the post, but that movie was so bad I stayed up til 3:00 a.m. one night watching it with my daughter. We both just knew it had to get better.

Never did. :0

Posted by: tbodie at March 13, 2014 02:59 PM (RX6BJ)

288 I still harbor a deep resentment toward Harry Reid for causing me to have nightmares about Elmer Fudd.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 02:59 PM (BZAd3)

289 wait s was the supercollider operating at the same time?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 03:00 PM (KgN8K)

290 NDH @245

Ding, ding, ding! This event is not yet over.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 03:00 PM (MLvXa)

291 Terrorists do not always claim their acts... *** I wrote a blog post at my now defunct blog about hos the egos of the terrorists is the only think keeping them from truly creating terror. It's the BIG BANG and the BIG TALK that gets their asses in a sling. If they could be happier with smaller, less showy attacks and with not pounding their chests, they would be much more successful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:00 PM (DmNpO)

292 Nice horses. Real nice.

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza, Horse Whisperer at March 13, 2014 03:00 PM (8ZskC)

293 264 If that's their end game I've not seen any reports of decreased air travel.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 03:00 PM (M/TDA)

294 The trouble with catastrophic depressurization and then flying until out of fuel is the whole transponder off part. I suppose they could have been switching the transponder at the exact second the plane depressurized so it was off one and not yet on another. But that seems like near impossible timing.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 03:00 PM (RZ8pf)

295 Late to the post, but that movie was so bad I stayed up til 3:00 a.m. one night watching it with my daughter. We both just knew it had to get better.

Never did. :0 Posted by: tbodie at March 13, 2014 06:59 PM (RX6BJ)

Ang Lee's version of The Hulk. Whenever I come across it on tv I must watch. I must. Because it will be good this time, it must be good this time.

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 13, 2014 03:01 PM (Gk3SS)

296 regarding transponders, in an emergency they would have switched into standby before resetting to an emergency transponder code, some are speculating that is why the transponder was turned off; emergency, standby, never got around to turning it the transponder back on.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:01 PM (rDidD)

297

288 I saw Cosmic Perturbation open for Ancient Aliens back in '74.

Hah...there it is.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 03:01 PM (8quPO)

298 Best part about flying CapeAir from Logan to Hyannis is that I get to sit right behind the empty (usually) copilots seat and watch the gauges, the yoke move, etc., while looking out the windshield.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:01 PM (ZshNr)

299

And the only claim to the 83 Beirut blast was a group called Islamic Jihad.... which believe me, we looked for but could not find, as they really did not exist.

Terrorists do not always claim their acts...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 06:56 PM (84gbM)

Especially if it was Syria or Iran that paid for the bombing of the US Marine and the French Barracks.

Posted by: Acts of War by Nation-States at March 13, 2014 03:01 PM (D+lxs)

300 if hijackers, don't they usually want something?

Maybe they wanted a 777.

Posted by: HR needs a beer at March 13, 2014 03:02 PM (ZKzrr)

301 #279 How about Cosmically Fucked? And is that good or bad? Guess it depends on the context. Wow, man, I was just cosmically fucked by that hippie girl. We are being cosmically fucked by Obama and his diktats.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate at March 13, 2014 03:02 PM (/cUUk)

302 Ace has mentioned cannabis oil before, which is stripped of the components that get you high and is used to treat epilepsy. Well those backward, stodgy right wingers in the Utah Legislature have passed a bill that would legalize its use. Funny thing--here in Alabama, the Legislature has been working and reworking a bill on the same subject. If it passes in current form, it will be done in conjunction with a study out of UAB, which is already a pretty high-caliber medical establishment.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 03:02 PM (m9V0o)

303 I flew Garuda Airlines from Jakarta to Denpasar in 1980. Never again. On return I took a ferry and a train.

Posted by: wth at March 13, 2014 03:03 PM (wAQA5)

304 I'm sure you did excellent work today, Ace. I'm at work & will read later.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 03:04 PM (gjOCp)

305 108. Bingo! baby, Bingo

Posted by: Brian at March 13, 2014 03:04 PM (Hd5n8)

306 I wrote a blog post at my now defunct blog about hos the egos of the terrorists is the only think keeping them from truly creating terror. It's the BIG BANG and the BIG TALK that gets their asses in a sling.

Malaysia is a big grower of tea. The Tea Party has a well-documented penchant for committing terrorist acts. The Tea Party also has tight message discipline and might be expected to keep mum.

Coincidence?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi, Genius at March 13, 2014 03:04 PM (8ZskC)

307 Malaysia is a big grower of tea. The Tea Party has a well-documented penchant for committing terrorist acts. The Tea Party also has tight message discipline and might be expected to keep mum. Coincidence? **** By George! I think you've solved the mystery!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:05 PM (DmNpO)

308 I know of at least one instance of a corporate aircraft that had bleed-air problems that caused the aircrew to pass and die and the aircraft eventually crashed after it ran out of gas. A similar situation happened to Paine Stewart's airplane if memory serves. Since bleed-air services airliners, I wonder if this might be a possibility.

Just a thought.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 03:06 PM (BZAd3)

309 I once flew Grace L Ferguson Airlines and Storm Door Company to Hawaii.

Posted by: Bob Newhart at March 13, 2014 03:06 PM (BAS5M)

310 Flying major airliner to land anywhere is going to get noticed by somebody, whether in person or by surveillance. It makes it infinitely harder to recognize when the planes transponder is turned off. Sure it 'might' appear on some military radar, if they were paying attention, but a commercial airliner flying at 'regular' altitude would not make anyone looking at radar not equipped with transponder information pay much attention. It's not like some flashing red lights go on. It appears to be an inadequacy that will have to be addressed in the future. *** From the aviation forum: What kind of radar tracking capability would Myanmar have, would it be possible to sneak up through their airspace? Having flown in Burmese airspace on quite a few occasions (in a B777), (both East-West and North-South) in virtual radio blackout for an hour or more, I'd say it would be possible to take half the commercial airline fleet of western Europe in line abreast through that area without anyone being the wiser. And mods, that is not meant to be flippant. Any pilot who has flown over those routes would agree with my sentiments, if perhaps not my overstatement.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:07 PM (DmNpO)

311 Singapore Air....best damn airlines in the world. And their stewardesses looove children....unlike the battleaxes on American carriers. I'm lookin' at you, United.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 03:07 PM (bCEmE)

312 It was the snakes.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 13, 2014 03:07 PM (MMC8r)

313 Greta just asked her 4 guests to throw out their wildest theories -- that's my type of journalism.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 03:08 PM (ZPrif)

314 Going full-bore tinfoil hat here...if they put a nuke on that airplane and flew it over a major city they wouldn't even have to land it.

Remember, any airplane not squawking shows up on the radar as a small blip, normally assumed by ATC to be a VFR flight. Absent an identifier there's a good chance they'd figure it for a Cessna.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 03:09 PM (MLvXa)

315 I once flew Vietnam Airlines from Saigon to the old US airbase at Danang. The pilot made three attempts to land with the plane bucking and bouncing violently down the entire glideslope. After the third try he turned around and went back to Saigon.

I thought that it would be pretty damn ironic to be the last American to die at Danang.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2014 03:09 PM (8ZskC)

316 Not tone a suck up, but.....Ace you have done well this week

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 13, 2014 03:09 PM (HVff2)

317 Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 13, 2014 07:07 PM (MMC8r) Hmmmm.... anyone seen Liam Neeson since this plane disappeared?

Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 03:09 PM (84gbM)

318

303 #279 How about Cosmically Fucked? And is that good or bad? Guess it depends on the context.

Wow, man, I was just cosmically fucked by that hippie girl.

We are being cosmically fucked by Obama and his diktats.

------------

It's more like...the cosmos is fucking with us.

While being cosmically fucked might be something good...

Having the cosmos fucking with us is probably not good.

Not if it's messing with our melatonin levels and making us depressed.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 03:10 PM (8quPO)

319 Posted by: Bitch McConnell, Country Club Republican and Milquetoast Extraordinaire at March 13, 2014 06:51 PM (D+lxs)

See, that is my fear. Or that Miss Lindsey or Hatch will get their grubby hands on it. Heaven forbid we get a senate majority leader who is NOT afraid of being called bossy, or other horrible names, by the senate dems. One that refuses to roll over when they say boo.

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 03:10 PM (BF+2f)

320 313 Yeah, but where would you land it? Major airliner can't land on a dirt strip, you'd need a big, paved and supported facility...

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 13, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

321 216 203 So we find it and know its terrorism what do you suppose our brave leader would do about it? I say a big fat nothing. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (M/TDA) ... Tuna, he'd find a way of punishing us. For our own good, and all. Try big fat martial law.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 03:10 PM (MhA4j)

322 Yeah, but where would you land it? Major airliner can't land on a dirt strip, you'd need a big, paved and supported facility...

Pfft.

Posted by: A C-130 Gunship at March 13, 2014 03:11 PM (8ZskC)

323 M-F'n sock off.

Posted by: --- at March 13, 2014 03:12 PM (MMC8r)

324 The ocean is lovely, dark and deep, and I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep...

Posted by: The Missing 777[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 03:12 PM (qyfb5)

325
Going full-bore tinfoil hat here...if they put a nuke on that airplane and flew it over a major city they wouldn't even have to land it.
Posted by: creeper

Because there's no easier less conspicuous way to obtain an aircraft than pulling a Roanoke.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 03:12 PM (kdS6q)

326 is it true captain phillips was flying on this plane?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:12 PM (rDidD)

327 216 203 So we find it and know its terrorism what do you suppose our brave leader would do about it? I say a big fat nothing. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (M/TDA) Uh.... why should we do anything if this is terrorism... This isn't really aimed at us.... or are we supposed to send our Men into Harms Way to defend Chinese Citizens?

Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 03:13 PM (84gbM)

328 A field-expedient repair/refurb of an old WW2 or Cold War airstrip is the only vaguely plausible idea that comes to mind.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:13 PM (ZshNr)

329 effina, crack has nothin on a missin plane from malaysia.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:14 PM (rDidD)

330 are you able to hide a 777, sure given the quality of reporting all you have to do is paint 767 on its side.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:15 PM (rDidD)

331 "Get...me...Rex...Kramer!"

Posted by: tu3031 at March 13, 2014 03:16 PM (yv+63)

332 Anybody think to check Sheila Jackson Lee's bouffant?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 13, 2014 03:16 PM (BAS5M)

333 are you able to hide a 777, sure given the quality of reporting all you have to do is paint 767 on its side. *** Big LOL!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:17 PM (DmNpO)

334 316 Greta just asked her 4 guests to throw out their wildest theories -- that's my type of journalism. Yep, I expect Spectre to be brought up any minute.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:17 PM (0FSuD)

335 Airline disappearances are caused by global warming.

Posted by: Al Gore fuck yourself at March 13, 2014 03:17 PM (/cUUk)

336 One of Greta's guests just said there are unattended runways all over the world.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:17 PM (DmNpO)

337 An Indiana couple overdosed on heroin in a McDonald's play area, Ohio police said, and now face child endangering charges. http://tinyurl.com/m82gwrh

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 13, 2014 03:17 PM (AymDN)

338
I believe the triple 7 is probably parked next to the American flag.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Mars at March 13, 2014 03:17 PM (nQjHM)

339 Sadly I think it's at the bottom of the sea with all hands, but hoping otherwise doesn't hurt anyone.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:18 PM (ZshNr)

340 Ideally? The Sultan of Brunei kidnapped them all, and they're at a secret week-long party where they're being served hand and foot and will then be sent back when he gets bored. More likely? All dead. Wierdest? The Europa space probe mission finds the empty plane under the ice.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 03:18 PM (qyfb5)

341 @328

They don't care about being completely inconspicuous. They don't want to be found but they want as much attention focused on their act as possible. It's part of the Muslim mindset.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 03:18 PM (MLvXa)

342 are you able to hide a 777, sure given the quality of reporting all you have to do is paint 767 on its side.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 07:15 PM (rDidD)

too funny, and true.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:18 PM (nqBYe)

343 Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 06:52 PM (8quPO) Malaysian airline malaise, no telling who went crazy and who just gave up to apathy, or what went wrong. // to history... Indian Diaspora Tale: A Malaysian Malady http://tinyurl.com/pwgvrl4

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 13, 2014 03:18 PM (MhA4j)

344

You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas; you've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone

It was a Gremlin, I tell you!

He was ripping up the wing!

He was chewing on the wing like I chew on the scenery, With. My. Acting!

Posted by: William Shatner at March 13, 2014 03:18 PM (D+lxs)

345 One of Greta's guests just said there are unattended runways all over the world.

Fresno is one. Try getting a rental car after 9:00.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2014 03:18 PM (8ZskC)

346 #335 Bouffants go back at least 400 years, like the Constitution.

Posted by: Shrilly Jackoff Lee at March 13, 2014 03:19 PM (/cUUk)

347 Romeo13, Our Ear Leader might hide the fact that it was terrorism to protect his muzzy friends from the chi-coms. But its too much like trutherism for me to believe all the people who would know the truth would go along.

Posted by: palerider at March 13, 2014 03:19 PM (dkExz)

348 777? If you subtract 111 you get 666.

Posted by: Michele Bachmann at March 13, 2014 03:19 PM (MhA4j)

349 339 One of Greta's guests just said there are unattended runways all over the world. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 07:17 PM (DmNpO) Well, that's true. There is an abandoned WWII runway near Denmark, SC, real name, that is about two miles long. Special Forces sometimes use it for drops and training. It wide open no gates nothing. It's a lot of fun to drag race down it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:20 PM (0FSuD)

350 Because there's no easier less conspicuous way to obtain an aircraft than pulling a Roanoke..... Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 07:12 PM (kdS6q)

I just watched the White Collar ep where Mozzie threatens to pull a Roanoke, then hilariously tries to start a fire to destroy all damning evidence. I love that show.

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 03:20 PM (BF+2f)

351 An Indiana couple overdosed on heroin in a McDonald's play area, Ohio police said, and now face child endangering charges.

Keep the kids out of the Ball Pit of Death.

Posted by: McDonalds Corp. at March 13, 2014 03:20 PM (8ZskC)

352 Black holes swallow all sorts of stuff. I read it on the internet.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 03:21 PM (BZAd3)

353 It doesn't need to land on its final leg.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 03:21 PM (MLvXa)

354 why the 15 minute gap?

<Jihadi mumbling to self>
Door locked, check
SatComm off, check
New coordinates punched in, check
Infidels panicking, check
Transponder off, Oh SHIT!

Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 13, 2014 03:22 PM (rdiUQ)

355 Keep the kids out of the Ball Pit of Death. Posted by: McDonalds has an entirely different meaning when reggie is on af1.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:22 PM (rDidD)

356 Is "pulling a Roanoke" a reference to the Lost Colony?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 13, 2014 03:22 PM (BAS5M)

357 Whatever you do, don't look up "pulling a Roanoke" in the Urban Dictionary.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 03:23 PM (g4TxM)

358 CROATAN

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:23 PM (ZshNr)

359 One of Greta's guests just said there are unattended runways all over the world. Did someone mention unattended runaways?

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 13, 2014 03:23 PM (uGsU8)

360 That Cosmos show looks like shitty sludge. Sigh Why can't the just show us what the human race has learned about the cosmos in the last few hundred years? Leave out the political and anti-religious stuff. Science can stand on its own two feet, Dr. T.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 03:24 PM (18Nkm)

361 If they flew upside down the fuselage markings would say LLL.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 03:25 PM (g4TxM)

362 Somebody had better get the captain to the transporter room. He won't believe this.

Posted by: Mr. Sulu at March 13, 2014 03:26 PM (8ZskC)

363 BREAKING: My missing trash can has been recovered. It mysteriously reappeared exactly where it was supposed to be in the first place. OK, you can go back to discussing whatever now.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 03:26 PM (sdi6R)

364 I was just scrolling through the photos of the attendees at David Frost's memorial service today. English men really have the most ill kept hair and horrible teeth but good lord their suits are well tailored. BTW any one remember Anthony Andrews of "Brideshead Revisited" fame. He has actually gotten old. Very old. Now I'm feeling very, very old.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 03:26 PM (M/TDA)

365 Count de Monet, yep!

361 CROATAN Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 07:23 PM (ZshNr)

Hah!

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 03:26 PM (BF+2f)

366 Maybe there should be some actual politics on a political blog. I thought this was a smart military blog. *checks receipt*

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 03:26 PM (TO0sy)

367 366 A kindly neighbor doing a good deed?

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 03:27 PM (M/TDA)

368

Looks like my instincts were right on avoiding that new Cosmos show.

Being already cosmically perturbed enough...I don't need to be watching something that will just add to it.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 03:27 PM (8quPO)

369 What's with East Indians and 7-11s and 777s? I mean, really, what's up with that?

Posted by: Joey Biden at March 13, 2014 03:27 PM (/cUUk)

370 Carl Sagan often mixed his cosmos crap and anthropology. Sagan liked to point out how humans, like their chimp cousins, were base creatures.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 03:27 PM (IW1TI)

371 An Indiana couple overdosed on heroin in a McDonald's play area, Ohio police said, and now face child endangering charges. *** I saw something a couple of days ago about a number of OD's associated with the sale of pure Heroin. Why would anyone sell pure H? If they stepped on it they would make more RPU and they wouldn't kill off their customer base.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:28 PM (DmNpO)

372 "298 regarding transponders, in an emergency they would have switched into standby before resetting to an emergency transponder code, some are speculating that is why the transponder was turned off; emergency, standby, never got around to turning it the transponder back on."

Maet and a few others said that on the last thread but it isn't true, nobody turns the transponder off or to standby when switching codes, it just isn't done.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 03:28 PM (IV4od)

373 Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 13, 2014 07:22 PM (rdiUQ) Radio.... off... check... Transponder off.... yes... Get cellphones from Infidels.... (15 minutes later... check... Data system off.... ok...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 03:28 PM (84gbM)

374 If they flew upside down the fuselage markings would say LLL. I want to fly on a 5138008.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 03:28 PM (TO0sy)

375 #372 Tune in and feel the Perturbation!

Posted by: Zombie Carl Sagan at March 13, 2014 03:29 PM (/cUUk)

376 Don't you mean 5318008?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 03:29 PM (g4TxM)

377 355 Black holes swallow all sorts of stuff. I read it on the internet. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 13, 2014 07:21 PM (BZAd3) How about this: The CERN particle accelerator accidentally created a mini black hole that got loose, and has been floating around undetected. It was just bad luck that it happened to be in the plane's flight path.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 03:29 PM (sdi6R)

378 Maet and a few others said that on the last thread but it isn't true, nobody turns the transponder off or to standby when switching codes, it just isn't done. Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 interesting, I have no first hand experience with transponders, but lots of guys on the pprune.org site have been repeating that info. is your nic indicative of some transponder experience?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:29 PM (rDidD)

379 Christina Hendricks as a stewardess Open Thread Compliance pic http://tinyurl.com/l9934we

Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 03:30 PM (aTXUx)

380 I knew the new Cosmos would be shit as soon as I heard Obama was involved.Someone on Facebook posted a " selfie" with Obama,Tyson and that douche Bill Nye.Another warning sign.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2014 03:30 PM (zqvg6)

381 Harry Reid actually is in the Bible. His name then was"Nabal". Pelosi is in there too. She was from Endor.

Posted by: tubal at March 13, 2014 03:30 PM (YEQ2h)

382
"Maybe there should be some actual politics on a political blog."

"Kids, out of the pool! Time to go to the orthodontist!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 03:30 PM (kdS6q)

383 I thought this was a smart military blog

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:31 PM (rDidD)

384 Don't you mean 5318008? Lemme get a calculator.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 03:32 PM (TO0sy)

385 Was convinced it was natural mishap until todays info came out...According the 9/11 commission, one of the biggest failures of the intelligence and security services was a failure of imagination. There are too many boxes checked here to ignore the possibilities...Flight crew - Muslim, a number of stolen passports, 2 communication systems shut off separately. The knowledge that the Bojinka plot (pre-cursor plan to 9/11 attack) originated in the Philippines which was well within the fuel range of the 777. The speculative part here is that the plane is on one those remote islands that is Al-Qaeda controlled and it landed on a rough airstrip that they have prepared long ago. Reason for no claim of responsibility is that the operation is not over...I doubt they can get the plane to our shores without notice now but one never knows what they are capable of now that they have reconstituted while Obama is in the WH...

Posted by: Tony253 at March 13, 2014 03:32 PM (3yMFT)

386 But its too much like trutherism for me to believe all the people who would know the truth would go along. Posted by: palerider at March 13, 2014 07:19 PM (dkExz) And Benghazi was because of a video... And that US Jet that got shot down in Libya during a bombing mission.... never happened... Even though one of the reasons Amb. Stevens was in Benghazi, was to be at a ceremony for the Farmer who helped rescue the Pilot... I don't really trust anything coming out of this administration...

Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 03:32 PM (84gbM)

387 #369 Sometimes it's a gun blog, other times a boobehs blog, then there are those seasons when it's a football blog. Those are just some of the threads that bore me. Ya can't have everything.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 03:32 PM (/cUUk)

388 371 Looks like my instincts were right on avoiding that new Cosmos show.
Beingalready cosmically perturbed enough...I don't need to be watching something that will just add to it.Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 07:27 PM (8quPO)

I would love it if someone revived Connections and did it right. The hypothesis that the most important invention of modern mankind was the plow, and then the explanation of why, blew my little elementary school mind, in a very good way. Paging Glenn Beck?

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 03:33 PM (BF+2f)

389 384 Harry Reid actually is in the Bible. His name then was"Nabal". Pelosi is in there too. She was from Endor. Posted by: tubal at March 13, 2014 07:30 PM (YEQ2h) the Forest Moon????

Posted by: Nerd. at March 13, 2014 03:33 PM (84gbM)

390 A320 aborts takeoff in PHL Does not fly for an additional 4 hours

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 03:33 PM (e8kgV)

391 I don't really trust anything coming out of this administration... Posted by: Romeo13..... at March 13, 2014 07:32 PM (84gbM) I do, I trust they are lying.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:34 PM (0FSuD)

392 How about this: The CERN particle accelerator accidentally created a mini black hole that got loose, and has been floating around undetected. It was just bad luck that it happened to be in the plane's flight path.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 07:29 PM (sdi6R)

Polar Vortex!!!

Posted by: Conspiracy Theorists at March 13, 2014 03:35 PM (BF+2f)

393 "I have no first hand experience with transponders, but lots of guys on the pprune.org site have been repeating that info. is your nic indicative of some transponder experience?"

I use them all the time, nobody shuts them off to squawk a different code, there's just no need to. Something happened to all the avionics, either they were all shut off by the master avionics switch or the avionics buss failed(circuit breaker) or they lost all electrical power. That would be my guess, something catastrophic happened and all power was lost at once.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 03:35 PM (IV4od)

394 is a sharknado or megashark even being conisdered here?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:36 PM (rDidD)

395 As far as the missing jet is concerned, I don't think any blog, no matter how Smilitary, knows anything more than what we think we knkw here. The pprun site seems to be boss.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:36 PM (ZshNr)

396 I want to fly on a 5138008. What, no openings on 5318008?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 03:36 PM (m9V0o)

397 Science can stand on its own two feet, Dr. T. Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 07:24 PM (18Nkm) Badonkadonk (18Nkm) Science can, but "SCIENCE! Celebrities" like Tyson, Nye, Kaku and Suzuki can't. It was always going to be a fustercluck, and no one should be surprised.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 03:36 PM (qyfb5)

398 Once was enough, not again.

Posted by: Doug McClure at March 13, 2014 03:36 PM (C94J7)

399 397 Yeah,didn't Megashark jump up and grab an airliner?Case: Solved.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2014 03:37 PM (zqvg6)

400 381 Maet and a few others said that on the last thread but it isn't true, nobody turns the transponder off or to standby when switching codes, it just isn't done. Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 interesting, I have no first hand experience with transponders, but lots of guys on the pprune.org site have been repeating that info. is your nic indicative of some transponder experience? Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 07:29 PM (rDidD) US Navy Electronics Tech with IFF NEC... Ret... so a bit out of date... but... It was standard ops to set it to standby when either changing either crypto or transponder codes... don't know about civilian equipment... but you would not want to squawk the wrong codes if you got interrogated while changing...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 03:37 PM (84gbM)

401 Does the Boeing 777 utilize a flux capacitor?

Posted by: Seamus McFly at March 13, 2014 03:37 PM (g4TxM)

402 My theory about the jet is that it can't be located. Because Flying Dutchman.

Posted by: tubal at March 13, 2014 03:37 PM (YEQ2h)

403 This, re the passengers on the plane, found at the aviation forum: http://www.pprune.org/8373382-post2994.html

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:37 PM (DmNpO)

404 379 Don't you mean 5318008? Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 07:29 PM (g4TxM) Badonkadonk (g4TxM) Fly? BOAT RIDE! BLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBL!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 03:37 PM (qyfb5)

405 Premier Li Keqiang told lenders to China's private sector factories they should expect debt defaults as the world's second largest economy encounters "serious challenges" in the year ahead. Speaking after the annual session of the national people's congress, Li Keqiang said: "We are going to confront serious challenges this year and some challenges may be even more complex." He told lenders to China's private sector factories they should expect debt defaults.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 03:38 PM (e8kgV)

406 393 A320 aborts takeoff in PHL Does not fly for an additional 4 hours Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 07:33 PM (e8kgV) Collapsed nose gear during takeoff run. No injuries reported, thankfully. http://tinyurl.com/my9fwxd

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 03:38 PM (sdi6R)

407 Connections. I. Loved. That. Show. Still remember the host taking a giant medieval broad sword to a side of beef as a way of showing what those things were capable of doing to a human body.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 03:38 PM (M/TDA)

408 Maylaysia Air uses Amish Tech Support right? I see a pattern here.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 03:39 PM (Q8vlx)

409 Some pet peeves: People who write loose when they mean lose and vice versa. People who write reign when they mean rein and vice versa. People who write your for you're. These grotesqueries are proliferating on internet forums lately. Why, I don't know. (The decline of public ed?) Feel free to add your own peeves to the list.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 03:39 PM (/cUUk)

410 402 397 Yeah,didn't Megashark jump up and grab an airliner?Case: Solved. Posted by: steevy well, I am not saying that is what happende but it is too early to cross it off our list of stuff.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:39 PM (rDidD)

411 410 Connections. I. Loved. That. Show. Still remember the host taking a giant medieval broad sword to a side of beef as a way of showing what those things were capable of doing to a human body. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 07:38 PM (M/TDA) Mmmmm, ribs, on the barbie.

Posted by: tubal at March 13, 2014 03:39 PM (YEQ2h)

412

391...I would love it if someone revived Connections and did it right. The hypothesis that the most important invention of modern mankind was the plow, and then the explanation of why, blew my little elementary school mind, in a very good way. Paging Glenn Beck?

Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 07:33 PM (BF+2f)

------------

Free of liberal agenda and liberal propaganda?

Nyet!

Can't have that!

/your betters who control what gets on TV

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 03:39 PM (8quPO)

413 As far as the missing jet is concerned, I don't think any blog, no matter how Smilitary, knows anything more than what we think we knkw here. The pprun site seems to be boss. *** Of course not. It's a mystery and folks love a good mystery and an opportunity to exercise their skills in intuition and analysis. Plus, speculation is fun.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:40 PM (DmNpO)

414 Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 07:35 PM (IV4od) doesn't your system kick into standby when switching codes? ie... wait for your transponder code selection to be complete, before it starts to squawk again?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 03:40 PM (84gbM)

415 397 As good a guess as any.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 03:40 PM (M/TDA)

416 Yeah, I agree with that.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:41 PM (ZshNr)

417 391 I would love it if someone revived Connections and did it right. The hypothesis that the most important invention of modern mankind was the plow, and then the explanation of why, blew my little elementary school mind, in a very good way. Paging Glenn Beck? Posted by: LizLem at March 13, 2014 07:33 PM (BF+2f) ------------------------------- Let me second that motion. Best series ever.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 03:41 PM (dfYL9)

418 Was there a dog cage strapped to the top of the plane?

Posted by: SCOAMF Reelection Crew at March 13, 2014 03:41 PM (C94J7)

419 People who write your for you're. I do this. Brain goes faster than typing skills.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:42 PM (0FSuD)

420 421 Was there a dog cage strapped to the top of the plane? Posted by: SCOAMF Reelection Crew at March 13, 2014 07:41 PM (C94J7) I wonder if the bags travelled for free?

Posted by: tubal at March 13, 2014 03:43 PM (YEQ2h)

421 #384 Okay, speaking of contemporaries to be found in the Bible, I have one burning question. Who is the Whore of Babylon? And is she still putting out? (Please don't say Nancy Pelosi.)

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 03:43 PM (/cUUk)

422

412...Feel free to add your own peeves to the list.

There instead of their.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 03:43 PM (8quPO)

423 421 No dog crate. A binder full of the wymmins.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 03:43 PM (Q8vlx)

424 "doesn't your system kick into standby when switching codes? ie... wait for your transponder code selection to be complete, before it starts to squawk again?"

Nope. Most experienced pilots are so used to it we don't even write it down just switch to it while ATC or the tower is giving it to us. Takes 5 seconds.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 03:43 PM (IV4od)

425 "I would love it if someone revived Connections and did it right."

No need to revive something that was done right the first time round.

It's not as though the fundamental ideas underpinning the series have changed.

I note that in his later career, James Burke did do some stuff in which he parroted the BBC global warming orthodoxy, but in fairness, he was doing so at a time before many of the current pointed questions about said orthodoxy had even been raised.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 03:43 PM (gqT4g)

426 Flout and Flaunt. Don't get me started.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:44 PM (ZshNr)

427 Aw. Cute giraffes with Lady Gaga wigs, Ace. I want baby elephants!

I keep waiting for the "triple seven"* to land at the WH and Baroque to pretend, with a photo of him walking pigeon-toed and looking thoughtful, it was all due to him, Nobel Piece of Crap Prizewinnah. He can raise the seas... and his facial mole, which is a satellite beacon strobe, powered from his own halitosis, brought them in from the darkness to land on Pennsylvania Avenue.

*They are in a hanger in Iran, protected by invisible shields, which 20 or so engineers on plane from Texas specialize in (or something like that, as this is my own news report). Iran and Putin think this snipe hunt is hilarious. Holding plane and people hostage until sanctions lifted or money given or path to wiping out Jerusalem made clear of issues. I mean, what or who do they want? Hillary? Barry? Prisoner trade?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 03:44 PM (baL2B)

428 People who write your for you're. I do this. Brain goes faster than typing skills. *** I tweeted "they're" instead of "their" yesterday. When I realized what I had done I deleted the tweet and rewrote it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:44 PM (DmNpO)

429 424 #384 Okay, speaking of contemporaries to be found in the Bible, I have one burning question. Who is the Whore of Babylon? And is she still putting out? (Please don't say Nancy Pelosi.) Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 07:43 PM (/cUUk) Crap.... gotta change my name again....

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 13, 2014 03:44 PM (84gbM)

430 Feel free to add your own peeves to the list. There instead of their. Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 07:43 PM (8quPO) **** People who type homophone when they mean homophobe.

Posted by: Seamus McFly at March 13, 2014 03:44 PM (g4TxM)

431 412 Towing the line Statue of limitations For all intensive purposes

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2014 03:44 PM (zqvg6)

432 #429 Or Fart and Flout. That is really annoying.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 03:44 PM (/cUUk)

433 What was the name of the man who hosted "Connections". I still remember his voice and the cadence of his speech. He was great.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 03:45 PM (M/TDA)

434 416 It's a mystery and folks love a good mystery and an opportunity to exercise their skills in intuition and analysis. Plus, speculation is fun. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 07:40 PM (DmNpO) There have been many mysterious disappearances in aviation history which have never been solved. Scores if not hundreds of books have been written about Amelia Earhart alone. But none involved a plane of this size or carrying this many people, or in an era of sophisticated tracking and communications.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 03:45 PM (sdi6R)

435 424 #384 Okay, speaking of contemporaries to be found in the Bible, I have one burning question. Who is the Whore of Babylon? And is she still putting out? (Please don't say Nancy Pelosi.) Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 07:43 PM (/cUUk) I was thinkin' someone hawter than Pelosi. Maybe oh, say, that Marcotte chick?

Posted by: tubal at March 13, 2014 03:45 PM (YEQ2h)

436 433 Feel free to add your own peeves to the list.

There instead of their.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 07:43 PM (8quPO)

****

People who type homophone when they mean homophobe.

Posted by: Seamus McFly at March 13, 2014 07:44 PM (g4TxM)

News term of week: "triple seven" or "off ramp."

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 03:45 PM (baL2B)

437 Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 07:39 PM (/cUUk) It could just mean that they are typing fast and the brain is not in sync with the fingers. I know quite well the difference b/t you're and your but it may come out incorrectly because I am the worst typist on the East Coast. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 03:45 PM (XyM/Y)

438 from Neidermeyer Link;

Beforeitsnews.com reports that 5 major tech comms military contractor companies had a total of 26 experts on the pax list.
1. China Telecom Â– just signed a deal re a submarine fibre optic cable to stretch from SÂ’pore to Europe such cables having military importance.
2. ZTE Â– India had banned dealings with this firm in 2010 due to fears of information-stealing spyware in their products. In 2010, ZTE helped funnel soft and hard ware from US Oracle, Microsoft and Cisco systems to Iran to build a nation-wide surveillance system in violation of an American embargo. The FBI was involved.
3. Huawei (China based worldÂ’s largest telecoms equipment maker) with military ties had to exit the US market last year after accusations of spying for ChinaÂ’s military. Australia and UK imposed restrictions on deals with this company.
4. Freescale Semiconductor Â– a major US defense contractor Â– 20 pax
5. IBM Â– another major US defense contractor had 1 executive who had been working in Beijing and was starting in KL.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:46 PM (nqBYe)

439 I think that's from Psalms.

It's from the Proverbs of Boney Maroney.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at March 13, 2014 03:46 PM (KQp38)

440 I skip verbs sometimes when typing. I read post and half the time I don't even see it. I am? Often I leave am out? Old? sometimers?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:46 PM (0FSuD)

441 412

Feel free to add your own peeves to the list.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 07:39 PM (/cUUk)

Grammar Nazis.

Whining about grammar Nazis.

Having to go into "View/Edit Source" to remove all but one of the 'class="posted"' entries every time I post here.

Posted by: Jug Hussein Ears at March 13, 2014 03:46 PM (M5T54)

442 Neidermeyer, I would say those are interesting passengers, and certainly not tourists taking a ride to see others sites.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:46 PM (nqBYe)

443 #434 Malapropisms can sometimes be funny as hell, whether intentional or not.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 03:47 PM (/cUUk)

444 Off damned sock.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at March 13, 2014 03:47 PM (M5T54)

445 anyone remember a c141 going missing off a africa a few years ago? I think it had a midair with a german plane?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:47 PM (rDidD)

446 435 #429 Or Fart and Flout. That is really annoying.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 07:44 PM (/cUUk)

Not to be confused with shart, which, now that I think about it, would be very popular in my all male house.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 03:47 PM (baL2B)

447 so 26 experts passengers and two Iranian pasengers with stolen ID's

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:48 PM (nqBYe)

448 436 What was the name of the man who hosted "Connections". I still remember his voice and the cadence of his speech. He was great. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 07:45 PM (M/TDA) James Burke. And that was an excellent show. It was a way of teaching history that absolutely pulled you in and made you realize that we are indeed connected with people of the past. Too often history is taught as a disjointed sequence of dates and events, and that's why so many people find it boring.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 03:48 PM (sdi6R)

449 There have been many mysterious disappearances in aviation history which have never been solved. Scores if not hundreds of books have been written about Amelia Earhart alone. But none involved a plane of this size or carrying this many people, or in an era of sophisticated tracking and communications. *** There's just so many odd things for it to be just a coincidence. It may turn out to be a mundane failure of technology resulting in tragedy or something much more sinister but, whatever it may be, it is fascinating at this stage of the mystery.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:48 PM (DmNpO)

450 Ha, when my brother was in his first job as a cop he went to Court in Orleans, MA every week or so for traffic stuff with a guy who pronounced affidavit as "After-David". Every time, for years, in Court.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 03:49 PM (ZshNr)

451 so the last question of the commenter was.

MH370 appeared to be carrying VVIPs directly linked with the global cyber warfare arena putting a different slant on the whys of what happened to the a/c. Coincidence?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:49 PM (nqBYe)

452 Took a few minutes to look at the professional pilots forum linked in the margins and they pretty much think it is simply a matter of not enough radar in the area and the flight suffered a catastrophic loss. One poster reminded everyone that on 911, in the world's most heavily radar laden country, with military and civilian aviation connected together, there were planes that were lost, especially flight 93. Remember the NARAD communications officer, asking where flight 93 was? They had lost it on the screen and thought it was still flying, then when told it was down, they asked" it landed?"

Posted by: Jen at March 13, 2014 03:50 PM (JqB3t)

453 I agree with everyone that Connections was awesome.If they did it today everything would connect to climate change and the glorious election of Barack Obama.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2014 03:50 PM (zqvg6)

454 Neidermeyers, well that would be a motherload of Information for the taking by a rogue country.
like er Iran. or whomever.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:51 PM (nqBYe)

455 There's just so many odd things for it to be just a coincidence. It may turn out to be a mundane failure of technology resulting in tragedy or something much more sinister but, whatever it may be, it is fascinating at this stage of the mystery. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse yeah it is either very suspicious and a nefarious plot or nothing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:51 PM (rDidD)

456 I'm reminded of that scene in Close Encounters where all the missing airplanes were shown grounded somewhere in the desert.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 03:51 PM (/cUUk)

457 I could care less
"apropos" as an alternative to appropriate
"begging the question" as an alternative to raising the question

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2014 03:51 PM (8ZskC)

458 Off sock

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 03:51 PM (g4TxM)

459 MH370 appeared to be carrying VVIPs directly linked with the global cyber warfare arena putting a different slant on the whys of what happened to the a/c. Coincidence? Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 07:49 PM (nqBYe) I think so. They all appear to be middle management people.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:51 PM (0FSuD)

460 Connections is available on YouTube.

Posted by: watcher at March 13, 2014 03:51 PM (C94J7)

461 55 As I get older I understand how men can smell like ass. I also understand that every old dude gets wire like hairs growing out of their ears and nose and eyebrows. Getting old sucks. I am to the point now where I am delighted when I have a nice clean BM and can sleep through the night.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (jucos)

This may be the most important fact I have ever read on this military blot.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 03:52 PM (baL2B)

462 so What rogue countries would have easy access to a runway in that area. since we could probably count out China?

or maybe not..

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:52 PM (nqBYe)

463 N Korea?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:53 PM (nqBYe)

464 Neidermeyers, well that would be a motherload of Information for the taking by a rogue country. like er Iran. or whomever. *** I has seen mention of this on twitter as well but have tried to disregard most rumors until they build steam. That's a lot of military comm experts on one plane.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 03:53 PM (DmNpO)

465 #241 (Preshone) writes: Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines (which were on this 777) do have an Aircraft Condition Monitoring System (ACMS ) which reports via a VHF radio or satellite link whilst the aircraft is in-flight. QUESTION: While over the ocean, I presume the engines would be reporting via satellite link (as opposed to VHF radio) If this is in fact the case, (and the engine reports apparently DID continue for 4-5 hours) wouldn't all OTHER satellite communication systems on board be available to the crew (or even a passenger with a satellite phone - which are pretty common in Asia)

Posted by: alwyr at March 13, 2014 03:54 PM (V0j3u)

466 Nip Sip even if middle management or those that assist in the contracting, They have value , right?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:54 PM (nqBYe)

467 Nope. Most experienced pilots are so used to it we don't even write it down just switch to it while ATC or the tower is giving it to us. Takes 5 seconds. Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 07:43 PM (IV4od) ." Care must be taken not to squawk any emergency code during a code change. For example, when changing from 1200 to 6501 (an assigned ATC squawk), one might turn the second wheel to a 5 (thus 1500), and then rotate the first wheel backwards in the sequence 1-0-7-6 to get to 6. This would momentarily have the transponder squawking a hijack code (7500), which might lead to more attention than one desires. Pilots are instructed not to place the transponder in "standby mode" while changing the codes, as it causes the loss of target information on the ATC radar screen, but instead to carefully change codes to avoid inadvertently selecting an emergency code. Additionally, modern digital transponders are operated by buttons to avoid this problem from Wiki... but this is also what I remember from IFF school many many moons ago... I would guess that modern transponders have a built in delay while changing channels... so you would not accidentally squawk on an emergency channel...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 13, 2014 03:54 PM (84gbM)

468 whoever is in charge of risk management is gonna get at least an earful for allowing everyone on one plane.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:54 PM (rDidD)

469 64 as organized as malaysia is they will accidentally find amelia.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 06:13 PM (rDidD)

I do love you dunderheads. Seriously. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 03:54 PM (baL2B)

470 Not to be confused with shart, which, now that I think about it, would be very popular in my all male house. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 07:47 PM (baL2B) Badonkadonk (baL2B) ... ... So, umm, should we call you "Christy" or "Chris?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 03:55 PM (qyfb5)

471 466 N Korea? Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 07:53 PM (nqBYe) Couldn't get there not enough fuel.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:55 PM (0FSuD)

472

437...But none involved a plane of this size or carrying this many people, or in an era of sophisticated tracking and communications.

When people board an airliner...they don't expect to just ::vanish::, never to be heard from again.

Not in this day and age, with all the tracking that is supposedly in place.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 03:55 PM (8quPO)

473 reports that 5 major tech comms military contractor companies had a total of 26

experts

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:55 PM (nqBYe)

474 I don't know if this has been linked or shown by anyone yet, but here's how far the plane could have flown if it kept going in a straight line in any direction for 4 hours.
http://tinyurl.com/ll4kk5y
Good luck finding even debris in that area.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 13, 2014 03:56 PM (zfY+H)

475 469 Nip Sip even if middle management or those that assist in the contracting, They have value , right? Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 07:54 PM (nqBYe) Sure, but not enough to blow a plane up.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:56 PM (0FSuD)

476 So, umm, should we call you "Christy" or "Chris?" Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith whatever she tells us to call her.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:56 PM (rDidD)

477 damn it, right fuel.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:56 PM (nqBYe)

478 472 64 as organized as malaysia is they will accidentally find amelia. Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 06:13 PM (rDidD) I do love you dunderheads. Seriously. xoxo Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 07:54 PM (baL2B) Badonkadonk (baL2B) "Ah, confusing news to the CNN news desk as we speak... Malay authorities seem to have announced that they have found Jimmy Hoffa. More news as this story develops."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 03:57 PM (qyfb5)

479 Tell me did the wind sweep you off your feet
Did you finally get the chance to dance along the light of day
And head back to the Milky Way
And tell me, did Venus blow your mind
Was it everything you wanted to find
And did you miss me while you were looking for yourself out there
♫ Now let's fuck the monkey because they've gotta new gel that's safe! ♬

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 13, 2014 03:57 PM (hn5v5)

480 The stupid on Hot Air commentating section, it hurts

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 03:57 PM (bStrg)

481 well they are saying experts.

so perhaps a lot of information and expertise..
they are just contracting out as an assignment for their ..?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 03:57 PM (nqBYe)

482 Feel free to add your own peeves to the list. Bossy instead of cunty.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 03:58 PM (k8m83)

483 "Ah, confusing news to the CNN news desk as we speak... Malay authorities seem to have announced that they have found Jimmy Hoffa. More news as this story develops." They still haven't found me!

Posted by: D.B. Cooper at March 13, 2014 03:58 PM (0FSuD)

484 a more simple explanation is probably more likely to be correct.
Zebras hijacked it?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 13, 2014 03:58 PM (hn5v5)

485 I'm pretty sure someone still alive knows wtf happened to that plane. They know if it was hijacked or went down. And,they are not talking.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 03:58 PM (Q8vlx)

486

"But then again, IÂ’m speaking here with people who cheered sending American soldiers to their deaths to establish a flowering democracy in Iraq, and now believe Americans should be killed in a global war with Russia for the benefit of Ukrainian neo-Nazi troglodytes.

Masih ad-Dajjal on March 13, 2014 at 7:05 PM"

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 03:58 PM (bStrg)

487 IÂ’m listening to Levin on CavutoÂ’s show today. He said that the establishment republicans were against Jolly because he didnÂ’t support Boehner for speaker when asked. He also said Rove had editorial in WSJ if he won & another one if he lost. Rove should retire.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 03:58 PM (gjOCp)

488 I am going on the record now, if it was a college prank and a couple a guys did it as a lark and no one is injured, no jail time and a free vacation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 03:59 PM (rDidD)

489 483 The stupid on Hot Air commentating section, it hurts Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 07:57 PM (bStrg) True, so true. How can they get that many cranky old farts on one blog?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 03:59 PM (0FSuD)

490 OMG I LOVE HOUSTON RODEO

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 04:00 PM (g37Az)

491 One of the most interesting malapropisms that I have come across is people who use "Old Timers" instead of "Alzhiemers." It's NOT a funny disease but sometimes I have felt like laughing when people have said to me, "Grandma died of Old Timers" disease."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:00 PM (XyM/Y)

492 True, so true. How can they get that many cranky old farts on one blog? Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 07:59 PM (0FSuD) Looks around.... Hey now.....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 04:01 PM (84gbM)

493 "36
Also over at the Blaze, see Miss Lindsey Graham telling Kerry when he thought he was off mic, "let me know what I can do to help you with Boehner".

These fuckin people hate us.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (gorVZ) "

They do indeed! And people wonder why we call them RINOs and "wolves in sheep's clothing".

I liked how the Treehouse covered this hot-mic

http://tinyurl.com/m6re4xj

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 13, 2014 04:01 PM (KL49F)

494 ever since michelle malkin quit jumping on trampolines or stomping on cans in high heels I quit going to hot air.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 04:01 PM (rDidD)

495 The engineers on that plane were, for the most part, production guys. Not high-value hostages. If you want to make a lot of something cheap, they're your people but they're not exactly cutting edge design engineers.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 04:01 PM (MLvXa)

496 the only thing we know for sure is that they're all lying to us, and the governments involved are more interested in saving face than anything else.

well that and you should never give 1st world technology to 3rd world barbarians.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 13, 2014 04:01 PM (q+fqH)

497 True, so true. How can they get that many cranky old farts on one blog?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 07:59 PM (0FSuD)

well i'm pretty cranky, and old is in the eye of the beholder, and i don't fart i whisp air unwillingly.

and no i don't have a HA nic

but here i am.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:02 PM (nqBYe)

498 Coming home tomorrow night on a 777 and have to clear customs in Atlanta at 7am Saturday morning.. During spring break. Maybe going down in the Amazon isn't such a bad alternative.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2014 04:02 PM (FVAUC)

499 @494 Well it IS an old timers disease. Some folks are just being polite in not saying what grandma had.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:02 PM (0FSuD)

500 How can they get that many cranky old farts on one blog? Posted by: Nip Sip Well, what's the punchline?

Posted by: Semi-conscious and barely literate scroller at March 13, 2014 04:02 PM (/cUUk)

501 We're gonna need a bigger search party.

Posted by: Chief Brody at March 13, 2014 04:03 PM (C94J7)

502 Jack, arrive home safely. please.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:04 PM (nqBYe)

503 JackStraw don't forget the beginning of a week long St Pattys day celebration. Good Luck.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 04:04 PM (Q8vlx)

504 Has anyone seen mine plane? It's one of those long things with these other things sticking out the the the side??? Wah wah wah wingggssss.

Posted by: Foster Brooks at March 13, 2014 04:04 PM (7v8o1)

505 No it's not just old people. I've had a relative who got early onset in the 40's which terrifies me when I forget my PIN number

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:04 PM (XyM/Y)

506 501 Coming home tomorrow night on a 777 and have to clear customs in Atlanta at 7am Saturday morning.. During spring break. Maybe going down in the Amazon isn't such a bad alternative. Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2014 08:02 PM (FVAUC) If you don't make it, can I have your stuff? j/k....have a safe trip and reentry!

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 04:04 PM (bCEmE)

507

490 IÂ’m listening to Levin on CavutoÂ’s show today. He said that the establishment republicans were against Jolly because he didnÂ’t support Boehner for speaker when asked.

He also said Rove had editorial in WSJ if he won & another one if he lost. Rove should retire.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 07:58 PM (gjOCp)

---------

But Rand Paul was doing robo-calls for Karl Rove's PAC....in that race.

He was doing it for Jolly, and against the Libertarian guy.

So that would indicate that Rove was forJolly, if he was pouring some money towards getting him elected.

Posted by: wheatie at March 13, 2014 04:04 PM (8quPO)

508 "492 483 The stupid on Hot Air commentating section, it hurts

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 07:57 PM (bStrg) "

SO true. I quit posting there over two years ago and I am a happier person because of it. I find them so immature -- so much backbiting, pettiness, and in-fighting. Narrow and no levity. Sounds like nothing has changed.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 13, 2014 04:05 PM (KL49F)

509 Meant in "their" forties.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:05 PM (XyM/Y)

510 but if you don't make it , the Amazon has a lovely rainforest.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:06 PM (nqBYe)

511 If an entire plane full of people can disappear without a trace, then Ace could disappear without a trace, too. Maybe, we should LoJack his ass?

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 04:06 PM (r7mtu)

512 01 Coming home tomorrow night on a 777 and have to clear customs in Atlanta at 7am Saturday morning.. During spring break.

Maybe going down in the Amazon isn't such a bad alternative.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2014 08:02 PM (FVAUC)

Jack, as you go around and around the line of peoples, note how weird they are. It will keep your mind off the general smell and lack of AC. I think they would let some in with needles hanging out of their arms as long as they stopped at the red line and staggered across when told.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:06 PM (baL2B)

513 I do not believe that the GOP wants Rpub candidates to lose. I believe that the GOP thinks, incorrectly, that their methods are right and every other method is wrong, which sometimes leads to them being harmful rather than helpful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 04:07 PM (DmNpO)

514 I hate when people say Hairy Reed when it should be penis shaped head that smells like ass.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 04:07 PM (Q8vlx)

515
The stupid on Hot Air commentating section, it hurts
Posted by: The Dude

True, so true. How can they get that many cranky old farts on one blog?
Posted by: Nip Sip

They opened a Hometown Buffet. And gave out 2 for 1 weekday coupons.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 04:08 PM (kdS6q)

516 490 He also said Rove had editorial in WSJ if he won & another one if he lost. Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 07:58 PM (gjOCp) Well, that's no different than Eisenhower on D-Day, or Nixon during the Apollo 11 flight. /

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 04:08 PM (sdi6R)

517 He also said Rove had editorial in WSJ if he won & another one if he lost. *** I've written press releases and you have to be prepared in any event.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 04:09 PM (DmNpO)

518 Was it a little fella did it? And was he circumcised?

Posted by: Marge Gundersen at March 13, 2014 04:10 PM (/cUUk)

519 "I would guess that modern transponders have a built in delay while changing channels... so you would not accidentally squawk on an emergency channel..."

Again it's not like some international distress signal if you hit 7500 or 7700 momentarily, it's just you in the airplane and the guy at ATC that would know it, he's the only one monitoring you. If by some miracle you accidentally squawked 7700 ATC would probably ask you if you squawked 7700 and you would say, "yeah that was me, opps sorry", and that would be that. The normal codes are so far removed from the emergency ones you would almost need to go out of your way to accidentally squawk an emergency code.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 04:11 PM (IV4od)

520 So, umm, should we call you "Christy" or "Chris?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 07:55 PM (qyfb5)

Lady Christy, Duchess of Everything, will do nicely.

Has Shep looked for the missing plane? He could find it.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:11 PM (baL2B)

521 I did good work today.

That's fucking debatable.
----------------------------------
Looks like Corzine Jr. is now prepping a place in Hell for the old man.

Posted by: Racist Opposittion Party at March 13, 2014 04:11 PM (Cs2tJ)

522 Is everyone missing with the plane now?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:14 PM (baL2B)

523 Again it's not like some international distress signal if you hit 7500 or 7700 momentarily, it's just you in the airplane and the guy at ATC that would know it, he's the only one monitoring you. If by some miracle you accidentally squawked 7700 ATC would probably ask you if you squawked 7700 and you would say, "yeah that was me, opps sorry", and that would be that. The normal codes are so far removed from the emergency ones you would almost need to go out of your way to accidentally squawk an emergency code. Posted by: lowandslow seeing as you are a moron and all, I am not in any way questioning your veracity but lots of guys claiming to be commercial pilots are swearing up and down you go to standby when switching codes. sadly, now I am even more confused, again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 04:14 PM (rDidD)

524 Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 08:11 PM (IV4od) Yeah.... thinking back on it... the only reason we were putting the IFF in standby was to change the crypto codes... Dam.... its been a LONNGGG time since I messed with that stuff...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 04:14 PM (84gbM)

525 If you think of yourself as cranky, willow, you're obviously not trying very hard here because you don't seem cranky at all. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:15 PM (XyM/Y)

526 Lady Christy, Duchess of Everything, will do nicely. Has Shep looked for the missing plane? He could find it. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 08:11 PM (baL2B) Badonkadonk (baL2B) Duchess of Everything? Everything? Do you know where I left my Universal Studies smashed Jaws penny? I've been looking for that for weeks.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:15 PM (qyfb5)

527 Has Shep looked for the missing plane? He could find it. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy fox oughta give him a dinghy and a sat phone and send him on a mission.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 04:15 PM (rDidD)

528 Like Hitchens said, "We're pattern-seeking mammals. And a conspiracy theory is better than no theory at all."

Posted by: Semi-conscious and rabidly pirouetting at March 13, 2014 04:15 PM (/cUUk)

529 anybody seen that crap about the Maryland girls abusing the autistic boy? awful

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 04:15 PM (KgN8K)

530 I mean other than complaining about Obama and his regime which makes all of us cranky to one extent or another.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:16 PM (XyM/Y)

531 524 Is everyone missing with the plane now? Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 08:14 PM (baL2B) Badonkadonk (baL2B) When they get back, they can tell us where it is.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:16 PM (qyfb5)

532 Christy One of my favorite parts about the process, the people watching. Early Saturday morning at customs in Atlanta is like the Star Wars bar scene only with worse music.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2014 04:17 PM (FVAUC)

533 I saw Flux Capacitor open for Transponders in '88.

Posted by: Semi-conscious and rabidly pirouetting at March 13, 2014 04:18 PM (/cUUk)

534 Ha, when my brother was in his first job as a cop he went to Court in Orleans, MA every week or so for traffic stuff with a guy who pronounced affidavit as "After-David". Every time, for years, in Court.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 07:49 PM (ZshNr)

And it never came back to hunt him? Sounds like he got off scotch-free.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 04:18 PM (291hy)

535 Zebras hijacked it?
Posted by: andycanuck at March 13, 2014 07:58 PM (hn5v5)
Uighurs?

Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at March 13, 2014 04:18 PM (ImNRL)

536 someone buy Rex Nebular And The Cosmic Gender Bender and tell me if it has aged gracefully

http://bit.ly/1kPRBeU

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 04:18 PM (bStrg)

537 Seriously, "Bigby's Missing Airliner." That has to happen sooner or later.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:21 PM (qyfb5)

538 Fen, it's not my usual thing, but lately i have found myself openly advocating for others to suck a dirty dick.
because i'm that frustrated with some comments.

so yeah i'm often mellow but lately with a tad of really piss'd and it happens suddenly..
and i'm not doing my usual walk outside before i respond.

anyway i'll do better. maybe tomorrow.
well i'll try to do better.
o nevermind. i Might do better!

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:21 PM (nqBYe)

539 De plane, boss! De plane! Never mind.

Posted by: Hervé Villechaize at March 13, 2014 04:21 PM (/cUUk)

540 Clearing immigration at ATL isn't so bad relative to others. You want to see a freak show? JFK baby!! Wow. Just wow. And Miami is a close second.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at March 13, 2014 04:22 PM (0LHZx)

541 534 Christy

One of my favorite parts about the process, the people watching. Early Saturday morning at customs in Atlanta is like the Star Wars bar scene only with worse music.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2014 08:17 PM (FVAUC)

I am usually (always) delirious with both jet lag and returning to USA, but, whoa. It is like the State Fair on steroids. Gypsies, hippies, Amish/Mennonites, and stoned girls in same line. Oh, and the large woman who kept her cell phone in ample bosoms (doesn't everyone?). I almost fell out laughing hysterically at that point from both dehydration and fatigue.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:22 PM (baL2B)

542 Wait a sec.... Plane missing??? Hundreds of passengers... Anyone seen any of the Benghazi CIA folks lately?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 04:22 PM (84gbM)

543 The plane is on an island somewhere being loaded with nukes by terrorists...and steel can't melt and there's like no way we landed on the moon, everyone knows it was filmed on a back lot in Burbank.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at March 13, 2014 04:24 PM (0LHZx)

544 Romeo, and We thought Govt was unable to keep secrets.

or to get others to keep their secrets.

that's why i never believed in some conspiracies, because how unlikely is that?

o well.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:24 PM (nqBYe)

545
Do you know where I left my Universal Studies smashed Jaws penny? I've been looking for that for weeks.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 08:15 PM (qyfb5)

Magic 8 Ball says: #honeybadger. Which I think means, Darfur. Could say something else...blurry.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:24 PM (baL2B)

546 anyway i'll do better. maybe tomorrow. well i'll try to do better. o nevermind. i Might do better! Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:21 PM (nqBYe) Badonkadonk (nqBYe) I'm sorry, willow. Sometimes I have to go do other things for a while. Sooner or later I will disappear, the nature of things. I remember only good things about you.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:25 PM (qyfb5)

547 everyone knows it was filmed on a back lot in Burbank.
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at March 13, 2014 08:24 PM (0LHZx)
400 years ago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 13, 2014 04:25 PM (ImNRL)

548 But the "pings" indicated that the aircraft's maintenance troubleshooting systems were switched on and ready to communicate with satellites, showing the aircraft, with 239 people on board, was at least capable of communicating after the jet lost touch with Malaysian air traffic controllers. The system transmits such pings about once an hour, according to the sources, who said five or six were heard. However, the pings alone are not proof that the plane was in the air or on the ground, the sources said. From MSN

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 04:25 PM (84gbM)

549 Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:21 PM (nqBYe) That's o.k. willow. You're more than fine. I sometimes feel like telling people to do something less than pleasant (not exactly sure what) when they start fighting the Civil War again on here so I can hardly blame you. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:25 PM (XyM/Y)

550 "commercial pilots are swearing up and down you go to standby when switching codes."

I've been a commercial pilot for thirty years and never even heard of such a thing. It's just a 4 digit code number that ATC matches up with you so you're both on the same page so to speak. If the five seconds it takes to switch codes is garbled ATC doesn't care, it's when the code they gave you matches up on the screen is when they're happy. Hell even if it takes a minute they don't care.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 04:25 PM (IV4od)

551 They opened a Hometown Buffet. And gave out 2 for 1 weekday coupons. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 08:08 PM (kdS6q) What no "Early Diner Discount"

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:26 PM (0FSuD)

552 Oh, and the large woman who kept her cell phone in ample bosoms (doesn't everyone?).

Of course not, that's where my iPod goes.

Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 04:26 PM (hO8IJ)

553 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 08:00 PM (XyM/Y) Fenelon, I know that disease is in your family. My mother had it & so did her grandmother. We never knew that my motherÂ’s grandmother was here in the US until 2008. My mother never mentioned her. The parents came here from Poland to get settled & had two kids in Poland and brought them here once they had jobs, etc & had two more children here. I think that my mother had a fear of getting it & didnÂ’t want us to know.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 04:26 PM (gjOCp)

554 Magic 8 Ball says: #honeybadger. Which I think means, Darfur. Could say something else...blurry. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 08:24 PM (baL2B) Badonkadonk (baL2B) Darfur. Hmm. Be back, have to go load more ammo. Or check and see if they still smash pennies, might be cheaper.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:26 PM (qyfb5)

555 I'm sorry, willow. Sometimes I have to go do other things for a while.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 08:25 PM (qyfb5)

yeah the other things , i should also do, back to garden in a couple of weeks. and yeah i'd hate to be remembered as that ebil btch, but maybe so.

and if you disappear you have to leave word with a trusted someone here or leave a trail of breadcrumbs so that i know you're ok.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:28 PM (nqBYe)

556 http://tinyurl.com/mo4pmrw From The Right Scoop, here is Levin on Cavuto. It was posted today and I think it is from today.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 04:28 PM (gjOCp)

557 2/25 Dr. Howard Koh, M.D. Assistant Secretary for Health Dear Howard: I am writing to resign my position as Director, Office of Research Integrity, ORI/OASH/DHHS This has been at once the best and worst job IÂ’ve ever had. The best part of it has been the opportunity to lead ORI intellectually and professionally in helping research institutions better handle allegations of research misconduct, provide in-service training for institutional Research Integrity Officers (RIOs), and develop programming to promote the Responsible Conduct of Research (RCR). Working with members of the research community, particularly RIOs, and the brilliant scientist-investigators in ORI has been one of the great pleasures of my long career. Unfortunately, and to my great surprise, it turned out to be only about 35% of the job. The rest of my role as ORI Director has been the very worst job I have ever had and it occupies up to 65% of my time. That part of the job is spent navigating the remarkably dysfunctional HHS bureaucracy to secure resources and, yes, get permission for ORI to serve the research community. I knew coming into this job about the bureaucratic limitations of the federal government, but I had no idea how stifling it would be. What I was able to do in a day or two as an academic administrator takes weeks or months in the federal government, our precinct of which is OASH. I believe there are a number of reasons for this. First, whereas in most organizations the front-line agencies that do the actual work, in our case protecting the integrity of millions of dollars of PHS-funded research, command the administrative support services to get the job done. In OASH itÂ’s the exact opposite. The Op-Divs, as the front-line offices are called, get our budgets and then have to go hat-in-hand to the administrative support people in the Â“immediate officeÂ” of OASH to spend it, almost item by item. These people who are generally poorly informed about what ORI is and does decide whether our requests are Â“mission critical.Â” On one occasion, I was invited to give a talk on research integrity and misconduct to a large group of AAAS fellows. I needed to spend $35 to convert some old cassette tapes to CDs for use in the presentation. The immediate office denied my request after a couple of days of noodling. A university did the conversion for me in twenty minutes, and refused payment when I told them it was for an educational purpose. Second, the organizational culture of OASHÂ’s immediate office is seriously flawed, in my opinion. The academic literature over the last twenty-five years on successful organizations highlights several characteristics: transparency, power-sharing or shared decision-making and accountability. If you invert these principles, you have an organization (OASH in this instance), which is secretive, autocratic and unaccountable. In one instance, by way of illustration, I urgently needed to fill a vacancy for an ORI division director. I asked the Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health (your deputy) when I could proceed. She said there was a priority list. I asked where ORIÂ’s request was on that list. She said the list was secret and that we werenÂ’t on the top, but we werenÂ’t on the bottom either. Sixteen months later we still donÂ’t have a division director on board. On another occasion I asked your deputy why you didnÂ’t conduct an evaluation by the Op-Divs of the immediate office administrative services to try to improve them. She responded that that had been tried a few years ago and the results were so negative that no further evaluations have been conducted. Third, there is the nature of the federal bureaucracy itself. The sociologist Max Weber observed in the early 20th century that while bureaucracy is in some instances an optimal organizational mode for a rationalized, industrial society, it has drawbacks. One is that public bureaucracies quit being about serving the public and focus instead on perpetuating themselves. This is exactly my experience with OASH. We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive. None of this renders the slightest bit of assistance to ORI in handling allegations of misconduct or in promoting the responsible conduct of research. Instead, it sucks away time and resources that we might better use to meet our mission. Since IÂ’ve been here IÂ’ve been advised by my superiors that I had Â“to make my bosses look good.Â” IÂ’ve been admonished: Â“Dave, you are a visionary leader but what we need here are team players.Â” Recently, I was advised that if I wanted to be happy in government service, I had to Â“lower my expectations.Â” The one thing no one in OASH leadership has said to me in two years is Â‘how can we help ORI better serve the research community?Â’ Not once. Finally, there is another important organizational question that deserves mention: Is OASH the proper home for a regulatory agency such as ORI? OASH is a collection of important public health offices that have agendas significantly different from the regulatory roles of ORI and OHRP. YouÂ’ve observed that OASH operates in an Â“intensely political environment.Â” I agree and have observed that in this environment decisions are often made on the basis of political expediency and to obtain favorable Â“optics.Â” There is often a lack of procedural rigor in this environment. I discovered recently, for example, that OASH operates a grievance procedure for employees that has no due process protections of any kind for respondents to those grievances. Indeed, there are no written rules or procedures for the OASH grievance process regarding the rights and responsibilities of respondents. By contrast, agencies such as ORI are bound by regulation to make principled decisions on the basis of clearly articulated procedures that protect the rights of all involved. Our decisions must be supported by the weight of factual evidence. ORIÂ’s decisions may be and frequently are tested in court. There are members of the press and the research community who donÂ’t believe ORI belongs in an agency such as OASH and I, reluctantly, have come to agree. In closing, these twenty-six months of service as the Director of ORI have been a remarkable experience. As I wrote earlier in this letter, working with the research community and the remarkable scientist-investigators at ORI has been the best job IÂ’ve ever had. As for the rest, IÂ’m offended as an American taxpayer that the federal bureaucracyÂ—at least the part IÂ’ve labored inÂ—is so profoundly dysfunctional. IÂ’m hardly the first person to have made that discovery, but IÂ’m saddened by the fact that there is so little discussion, much less outrage, regarding the problem. To promote healthy and productive discussion, I intend to publish a version of the daily log IÂ’ve kept as ORI Director in order to share my experience and observations with my colleagues in government and with members of the regulated research community. I plan to work through Tuesday March 4, 2014 and then use vacation or sick days until Thursday March 27 (by which time I will have re-established health care through my university) and then end my federal government service. Sincerely,

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 04:28 PM (e8kgV)

558 I've watched the graphic they have been showing on Fox News and I have to say they should have no trouble finding that plane. It's huge!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 13, 2014 04:29 PM (a1u5C)

559 Well, this is depressing: http://tinyurl.com/l5c6h5q How is in-space refueling, or in-space assembly for that matter, even controversial? Science fiction writers and futurists have only been exploring the possibilities since the 1950s. But no, Congress has decreed that NASA is a jobs program, and nothing more.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 04:29 PM (sdi6R)

560 Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:24 PM (nqBYe) I knew better.... there was a LOT of crazy shit that went on during the Cold War, that Civilians were never privy to.... You are indoctrinated to trust those above you in the Chain of Command... and when they tell you to shut up? you shut up... And it is not until you see them close up, in Action... that you realize they are just winging it too. Working on an Admirals Staff was.... enlightening...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 04:29 PM (84gbM)

561 Of course not, that's where my iPod goes. Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 08:26 PM (hO8IJ) Badonkadonk (hO8IJ) Jeez, Apple gets all the love.

Posted by: Poor Old Microsoft Zune[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:30 PM (qyfb5)

562 the Ides Of March is in two days anything can happen -- expect the unexpected

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 04:30 PM (IW1TI)

563 At this point, you'd think Malaysia Airlines would release the passenger and cargo manifests.

Posted by: MacGruber at March 13, 2014 04:30 PM (A9zaA)

564 Went through customs at JFK behind a married couple with 27 suitcases who had no clue that they had to declare all the stuff they purchased over 800 dollars. Talk about an epic freak out. That was one for the ages. Same line, guy pulls a giant bologna (and I am not meaning it as a euphemism) out of his pants. The customs guy just stared in amazement.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 04:30 PM (RZ8pf)

565 They opened a Hometown Buffet. And gave out 2 for 1 weekday coupons.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 08:08 PM (kdS6q)

If we go with Kenichiro Takak's saying "Tits are life, ass is hometown", sign me the fuck up for a hometown buffet

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 04:31 PM (bStrg)

566 Why the 15 minute gap? Posted by: tasker at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (RJMhd) You people just can't let that go, can you!!!!

Posted by: zombie Richard Nixon at March 13, 2014 04:31 PM (aTXUx)

567 I don't want to give the Feds my fingerprints, but my son didn't give a shit. He has that "trusted Traveler" card. Gets through customs and passport in five minutes. You slide the card they verify it's you, take a picture of you and you hand it to the officer and move along. Not of any value to me unless wife gets one too.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:31 PM (0FSuD)

568 Farmer Bob ‏@DestroBadass now @mflynny Latest I heard was that Waldo was on the flight. I guess the elusive bastard finally won

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 04:31 PM (DmNpO)

569 Since this seems to be an open thread here-can anyone with kids recommend a good filter for a computer for kids that doesn't cost n arm and a leg. The young man (14 year old )doesn't seem at this point to have an interest in stuff he shouldn't be looking at (He's more interested in semiotics and videos on philosophy) but there is so much porn out there I really don't want him exposed to it and there seem to be so many sources for filters. Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:31 PM (XyM/Y)

570 There is no law against cured pants meat!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 04:32 PM (ZshNr)

571 At this point, you'd think Malaysia Airlines would release the passenger and cargo manifests. Posted by: MacGr they are the same on malaysia

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 13, 2014 04:33 PM (rDidD)

572 and if you disappear you have to leave word with a trusted someone here or leave a trail of breadcrumbs so that i know you're ok. Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:28 PM (nqBYe) Badonkadonk (nqBYe) Aww, {hugs}. I will do my best to make sure my peeps don't get left hanging. Trust me I know what it's like.

Posted by: Poor Old Microsoft Zune[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:33 PM (qyfb5)

573 I just took the Bernie Sanders poll on top of sidebar. It appears no one but me voted to oppose climax change. I votted with the opposition party to stop prolong climax due to vioxx, as no one tells you the treatment for prolonged erector sets and Lincoln logs. COEXIXT.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:33 PM (baL2B)

574 We've gotta find this Ping guy and question his Chinese ass off!

Posted by: joey biden at March 13, 2014 04:34 PM (hn5v5)

575 If you are depressed, if you think Americans have lost their minds, and there is no patriotism, if you are afraid this country has forgot how to work Get your ass to a rodeo

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 04:34 PM (g37Az)

576 yeah i think the uncertainty and disillusionment is causing much of my anger.

but that is my fault.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:35 PM (nqBYe)

577 I saw Cured Pants Meat open for..... Oh never mind....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 04:35 PM (jucos)

578 13 Anyone arguing the Civil War in this thread gets an arrow to the knee.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 06:02 PM (oFCZn)

--------------------

You bring arrow; I bring S&W Model 3

Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 04:35 PM (aUQgu)

579 Hang in there Willow.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 04:36 PM (jucos)

580 What kind of pussy calls 911 on his fucking cat?

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 04:36 PM (/IQip)

581 My secret commie vice: I'm watching Crosby, Stills and Nash in concert on PBS.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 04:36 PM (oMKp3)

582 hey, Steve McQueen in Le Mans is on TCM. Might have to get over there.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:36 PM (0FSuD)

583 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 06:02 PM (oFCZn) Gee; I thought I was the only one irritated by that. Good to know I'm not

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:37 PM (XyM/Y)

584 582 What kind of pussy calls 911 on his fucking cat? Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 08:36 PM (/IQip) I guy that lives in Oregon.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:37 PM (0FSuD)

585 582 What kind of pussy calls 911 on his fucking cat?

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 08:36 PM (/IQip)

One without a gun? Wasn't it in Oregon?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:37 PM (baL2B)

586 Nip Le Mans was one of the best racing movies made.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 04:38 PM (Q8vlx)

587 I cleared in JFK on a flight from Europe...Amsterdam to be exact. My last day in that beautiful city, the summer between sophomore and junior year. I partook in the local smoking customs. Like a lot. Then a few drinks on the flight and by the time I got off the plane I wasn't sure which way was up or down. It was one of the trippiest experienced I had waiting in line. Nobody spoke English, there were African dudes in their garb, it was about 100 degrees inside the terminal. And I was getting paranoid that given my condition, I was going to get the 3rd degree from customs. So I get to the front of the line and called over. The customs agent asked me where I was coming from, asked me where I was going, took a look at me, chuckled and told me thank you. I don't think he even read my passport (this was pre 9-11 when it was a lot more lax for US citizens). I still laugh to myself when I think of that time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 13, 2014 04:38 PM (0LHZx)

588 Since this seems to be an open thread here-can anyone with kids recommend a good filter for a computer for kids that doesn't cost n arm and a leg. The young man (14 year old )doesn't seem at this point to have an interest in stuff he shouldn't be looking at (He's more interested in semiotics and videos on philosophy) but there is so much porn out there I really don't want him exposed to it and there seem to be so many sources for filters.

Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 08:31 PM (XyM/Y)

I would suggest that you be the filter. Never let him look at anything that you have not previewed and are willing to have him look at.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 04:38 PM (291hy)

589 Bigby's Missing Airliner? I should say not.

Posted by: Mordenkainen`s Flightless 777 at March 13, 2014 04:38 PM (KgN8K)

590 591 Bigby's Missing Airliner? I should say not. Posted by: Mordenkainen`s Flightless 777 at March 13, 2014 08:38 PM (KgN8K) Badonkadonk (KgN8K) No comment.

Posted by: The Septum of Vecna[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:40 PM (qyfb5)

591 You know that horse picture is really sweet. As a kid and still today sometimes I hang on my mom like that. Though she is 84 now so I do it carefully. And my son hangs on me. There is just something about a mom and kid relationship that no matter how old you are sometimes you just want to feel your mom. (and not in a pervy way you sickos)

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 04:40 PM (RZ8pf)

592 Straightening my socks...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:40 PM (qyfb5)

593 Get your ass to a rodeo My ass hates crowds but he doesn't mind performing in the Christmas Pageant. ;^) We actually have rodeos here but I haven't been for a while because they are held at hot times of the year outside , but i have an interest in people riding bulls. I used to watch it when I had a working TV.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:40 PM (XyM/Y)

594 Lets see.... Fairy dust... check.... Course? Second star to the right... straight on till morning...

Posted by: 777 Pilot at March 13, 2014 04:40 PM (84gbM)

595 Tenser`s Landing Gear?

Posted by: Mordenkainen`s Flightless 777 at March 13, 2014 04:41 PM (ipLaJ)

596 Anyone tune into Coast to Coast in the last few nights? I'm betting the tinfoil hat crowd is coming out of the woodwork there

Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 04:41 PM (aTXUx)

597 There is just something about a mom and kid relationship that no matter how old you are sometimes you just want to feel your mom. Yeah, no.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 04:41 PM (UAMVq)

598 I either just interrupted a mid-sized mammal of the raccoon, opossum flavor or narrowly escaped a Bigfoot attack. Opened the shed door, it's pitch dark, saw a flurry of fur and then nothing, gone into the night. Probably a baby Bigfoot, raccoons don't like my shed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 04:41 PM (ZshNr)

599 I still laugh to myself when I think of that time. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 13, 2014 08:38 PM (0LHZx) Pre 9/11 I came back from Tokyo carrying a front bumper for a Toyota Landcruiser, they didn't sell the bumper in the us. It was in the factory box. This huge Black agent asked me what the hell was in the box, with Toyota written all over it. I told him and started laughing like hell, handed me my passport and said welcome home son.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:41 PM (0FSuD)

600 Fen, i couldn't recommend , anything i can do my kids already knew more than i and way around re ;tech.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:42 PM (nqBYe)

601 There is just something about a mom and kid relationship that no matter how old you are sometimes you just want to feel your mom.

Unless you're the worst thing she's ever done. Kind of puts a damper on things.

Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 04:42 PM (hO8IJ)

602 can anyone with kids recommend a good filter

I remember Mark Davis on WBAP talking about pron filter difficulties. The kid would complain that the filter wouldn't let him go to the national geo webpage he needed for homework. Mark would relax the filter settings. Then the kid would be back complaining that the lady with the donkey was on the computer again.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 04:42 PM (kxSZr)

603 sock offÂ™

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 04:42 PM (krJG1)

604 PGS.. my mom is 84 too and yeah.. still like to hang on her and love on her.. but gotta be careful!

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 04:43 PM (/IQip)

605 The computer he uses is in the family room so that helps a lot. but I never know if he's not sneaking down at night to look at stuff because he gets insomnia. There is just no way I could watch him all the time because I'm not always here, but your point is well taken

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:43 PM (XyM/Y)

606 Does the mystery of 370 highlight the limits of technology or the limits of the integrity of the MFM?

Posted by: ontherocks at March 13, 2014 04:43 PM (XnWp7)

607 Ok I will amend my statement, if you always have had a good relationship with your mom. And don't tell me guys don't sometimes just hug their moms for no reason because I have seen it with my own two eyes.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 04:43 PM (RZ8pf)

608 607 As long as it's not ghey pron, leave it alone. Young guys get woodys that need relief.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:44 PM (0FSuD)

609 566 Went through customs at JFK behind a married couple with 27 suitcases who had no clue that they had to declare all the stuff they purchased over 800 dollars. Talk about an epic freak out. That was one for the ages. Same line, guy pulls a giant bologna (and I am not meaning it as a euphemism) out of his pants. The customs guy just stared in amazement.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 08:30 PM (RZ8pf)

I would die laughing. This reminds me of that Captain America guy with the burrito in his leggings.

Also, in customs in England from Paris over a decade ago...none other than Pierce Brosnan, 007, and his then gf and two kids (one screaming in stroller as he said, in British accent, "shutup/shutup/shutup" in quiet and controlled bursts, always three times) with their fancy luggage on trolley, well, girlfriend goes to front of line, waves back to ole 007 and screaming kid, saying (I guess), "This is Mr. Pierce Brosnan, actor, he needs to get through customs toot sweet ahead of these peasants." Customs man tells her to get to end of line behind me and my royal family. Bravo, customs man.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:44 PM (baL2B)

610 yeah ,i miss my mum a lot. Fortunate i had a really decent and good soul .

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:44 PM (nqBYe)

611 and I had to hang on my son the other night while he was crying his eyes out.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 04:45 PM (/IQip)

612 597 Tenser`s Landing Gear? Posted by: Mordenkainen`s Flightless 777 at March 13, 2014 08:41 PM (ipLaJ) Badonkadonk (ipLaJ) Let me get on a conference call with Otiluke, Malavon, Otto and Melf, and get back to you.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:45 PM (qyfb5)

613 603 Unless you're the worst thing she's ever done. Kind of puts a damper on things. Heather ... please stop. You're not.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 13, 2014 04:45 PM (VdBU2)

614 It's back. Outside the shed door, raiding the bird seed sack. Sounds Squatchy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 04:46 PM (ZshNr)

615 HR, sincerely it breaks my heart you feel that way. I'm so sorry, that's quite a burden.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:46 PM (nqBYe)

616 65 And after you find the missing 777, find us! Posted by: Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (BAS5M) I didn't see nothin'

Posted by: Last guy who saw Jimmy Hoffa at March 13, 2014 04:47 PM (aTXUx)

617 576 We've gotta find this Ping guy and question his Chinese ass off!

Posted by: joey biden at March 13, 2014 08:34 PM (hn5v5)

xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:48 PM (baL2B)

618 Best filter is no privacy imho. No smart phones or lap tops. PC in the family room.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at March 13, 2014 04:48 PM (KzHNA)

619 What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: The passengers and crew of Star Tiger and Star Ariel at March 13, 2014 04:48 PM (sdi6R)

620 @611 Yeah, well those days are over. Now most VIPs can get a special walk through. I did it in Israel with A & K. Best money I ever spent. They picked us up at the gate, we drove around the airport to a private customs area, they got our bags and we were out of there. I felt bad for the other 200 passengers in line. NOT.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:48 PM (0FSuD)

621 603 There is just something about a mom and kid relationship that no matter how old you are sometimes you just want to feel your mom. Unless you're the worst thing she's ever done. Kind of puts a damper on things. Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 08:42 PM (hO8IJ) That sucks. I know how you feel. For my formative years I was convinced my mother hated my guts.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 04:50 PM (UAMVq)

622 618 65 And after you find the missing 777, find us! Posted by: Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (BAS5M) While you're at it, see if my missing socks from the dryer ended up there too

Posted by: kbdabear at March 13, 2014 04:50 PM (aTXUx)

623 Can we find Flight 370 and lose Air Force One? Sounds like a good trade to me, no?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 04:50 PM (IW1TI)

624 616 It's back. Outside the shed door, raiding the bird seed sack. Sounds Squatchy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 08:46 PM (ZshNr)

RUN! I have an animal trapper guy on speed dial.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:51 PM (baL2B)

625 Evening Horde. Damn, it smells in here. So who we pissing off?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 13, 2014 04:51 PM (GEICT)

626 Heather - I can relate. No one can hurt you quite like your own mother. I've had a long difficult relationship too. I find it becomes much easier the older I get.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 04:51 PM (oMKp3)

627 625 Can we find Flight 370 and lose Air Force One? Sounds like a good trade to me, no? Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 08:50 PM (IW1TI) How about we lose the SCOAMF and keep Air Force One? I would hate to see a perfectly good airplane go to waste.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 04:51 PM (UAMVq)

628 Unless you're the worst thing she's ever done. Kind of puts a damper on things. Posted by: HR at March 13, 2014 08:42 PM (hO8IJ) Badonkadonk (hO8IJ) Heather, you are smart, you are perceptive, and I've seen you put lovin' on people hurting here so I know you're a decent person, too. It pains me to see you in pain so much, but I know what it's like. I don't have any advice for you, because we are two different people and people don't work the same way. But I will say *you are valued here*, for whatever that's worth.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 04:51 PM (qyfb5)

629 @561 NASA is hardly even a jobs program anymore. I heard that if Boeing wins the new CCDev contract, if they win and they're the incumbent, they'll have to cut half the staff in Houston and move the remaining work to KSC. That's the commercial crew work, which is the only new success other than an autonomous lander which can't get anywhere on its own.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 04:51 PM (3R7WS)

630 Saw this post on the pprune.org thread: "There is probably a significant likelihood" that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean, a senior U.S. official told CNN's Barbara Starr Thursday, citing information Malaysia has shared with the United States."

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 04:52 PM (bCEmE)

631 625
Can we find Flight 370 and lose Air Force One?

Sounds like a good trade to me, no?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 08:50 PM (IW1TI)

To the camps go you!

Remember, I have the window unit near the AC. I called it a long time ago but need to remind y'all now and then.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:52 PM (baL2B)

632

HR is Heather Radish! I did not know that.

*Waves at Heather*

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 04:54 PM (jucos)

633 i wish i could win a huge lottery. we could have a huge non -hippy (although i'm still kinda hippy-ish) commune, with guns and fresh meat and fresh veggies and guns and , freedom. maybe
i heard that never really works out well though. lol

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:54 PM (nqBYe)

634 Heather, I dont mean to be nosy here, but your mother and family have seemed to cause you a lot of pain and I sorry about that because you are a very interesting caring and intelligent person. if you are at all a person of Christan faith (although it can be adapted for non Christians) I suggest this book, "Praying Our Goodbyes" which ritualizes letting things go. It has all kinds of situations including for one who has been betrayed by others. It's one of the best books on Christian spirituality I have read: Here's a description: http://www.joycerupp.com/PrayingGoodbyes.html

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 04:54 PM (XyM/Y)

635 635 i wish i could win a huge lottery. we could have a huge non -hippy (although i'm still kinda hippy-ish) commune, with guns and fresh meat and fresh veggies and guns and , freedom. maybe i heard that never really works out well though. lol Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:54 PM (nqBYe) Will there be free love?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 04:54 PM (UAMVq)

636 At the camps, we'll be forced to assemble styrofoam columns and manufacture EBT cards.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 04:54 PM (IW1TI)

637 so anyway http://is.gd/IJQ84O no email for andy, who would be interested in following, i bet

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 04:54 PM (KgN8K)

638 Saw this post on the pprune.org thread: "There is probably a significant likelihood" that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean, a senior U.S. official told CNN's Barbara Starr Thursday, citing information Malaysia has shared with the United States." *** Yep. Just read that. That would be one helluva long way out of the designated flight pattern.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 04:55 PM (DmNpO)

639 Merovign, we really are people on the other side of the screens.

and mostly in agreement about hopes for the country's future etc..

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:55 PM (nqBYe)

640 I don't want to open the door and scare off the baby Squatch. It's been a hard winter and I'm sure those seeds will go a long way in Squatch Village. It is actually still out there, I'm guessing 'coon or skunk. Have one chance to fling the door open and see.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 04:55 PM (ZshNr)

641 Passenger name list here:

http://tinyurl.com/n37m3t5

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 04:55 PM (MLvXa)

642 WSJ: Breaking: Malaysia jet 'pinged' satellites with location, speed and altitude for hours after it disappeared http://t.co/nQaEqlOcKf Here's my new theory: It was hijacked. We know where it is, and we're holding back info while forming a SEAL unit to go in.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 04:56 PM (k8m83)

643 I love the balls of NY State. Advertising on O'R about starting a business in the state. Ranking of business friendly states? NY=50th.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 04:56 PM (0FSuD)

644 Insomniac free?

everything has a cost.

emotional , financial, mow the lawn, take out the garbage kill me a cow. cook the dinner.

and so on.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:56 PM (nqBYe)

645 I am going to win the Lottery and y'all are all welcome to form the Moron Nation at my place. Will let you know, but think it will be soon unless the jet with nukes interferes with plans.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:56 PM (baL2B)

646 "Now most VIPs can get a special walk through."

Still a lot of airports where the flight crew has to go through the same TSA screening area as the passengers, I've seen people get upset that get to go to the front of the line. Like they don't have anything to do before the flight pushes out or anything.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 04:57 PM (IV4od)

647 That sucks. I know how you feel. For my formative years I was convinced my mother hated my guts.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 08:50 PM (UAMVq)

And in turn that sucks. I had no dad. But I knew my mom loved me. I always knew that.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 04:57 PM (291hy)

648 While I was sleeping Ace turned out some excellent stuff. The Mamet and Gibson pieces are great reading. Â…..just trying to catch up before heading in to work.

Posted by: ontherocks at March 13, 2014 04:57 PM (XnWp7)

649 Christy i like an optimist!

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:57 PM (nqBYe)

650 HR sorry didn't mean to interrupt

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 04:57 PM (KgN8K)

651 Also, we're possibly releasing certain info to collect chatter.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 04:57 PM (k8m83)

652 Here's my new theory: It was hijacked. We know where it is, and we're holding back info while forming a SEAL unit to go in.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 08:56 PM (k8m83)

And I hope they kick ass. I think somebody knows something...and it is probably not ole windbreaker in the special room. Nor Joey. Heck, I doubt anyone knows squat except SEALS or morons on this military blog.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 04:58 PM (baL2B)

653 646 Insomniac free? everything has a cost. emotional , financial, mow the lawn, take out the garbage kill me a cow. cook the dinner. and so on. Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:56 PM (nqBYe) You broads sure are high maintenance.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 04:58 PM (UAMVq)

654 @632 I would believe the Indian Ocean scenario if someone would confirm information that the plane diverted that direction. India is pretty well populated and militarized, so landing a missing 777 plane their without notice would be difficult. Trying to fly around it to the south would quickly eat up any range. Flying around the north hits disputed territories that are more likely watched. So an ambitious hijacker might try going that way and head to Iran etc, but they likely wouldn't make it. I just can't imagine them missing the range limitation. I suppose they thought they could try and eek out the maximum range of ~5000Nm, not realizing most airlines don't fly fully fueled aircraft. Rather, they carry only the fuel they need.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 04:58 PM (3R7WS)

655 You know who else get a special walk through at the airport? Every single Arab-Muslim-looking man between the ages 20 and 40. Can't risk profiling these chaps, can we?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 13, 2014 04:59 PM (IW1TI)

656
Senate Deal Is Reached On Restoring Unemployment Extension

The support of Senate Republicans like Rob Portman, Dean Heller of Nevada, Susan Collins of Maine, Mark S. Kirk of Illinois and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska will help provide the five votes that Democrats will need to overcome a filibuster by conservatives who have opposed extending the program, which was first passed in 2008, at the height of the recession.

Go Rhinos! Go Rhinos! It's Your Birthday!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 04:59 PM (kdS6q)

657 You broads sure are high maintenance.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 08:58 PM (UAMVq)

Hey i cook, i can run a tractor, i can uhm,, change nappies without throwing up on your shoes, and i do put together a home pretty well with little or nothing .

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 04:59 PM (nqBYe)

658 640 That would be one helluva long way out of the designated flight pattern. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 08:55 PM (DmNpO) And most of the Indian Ocean is very very deep.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 05:00 PM (sdi6R)

659

well, I did the supersciency Sanders poll in the sidebar.

Now we need about 10K other people to vote with me.

Posted by: barbarausa at March 13, 2014 05:00 PM (WWeoI)

660 uh, don't mind me just trying on a new sock

Posted by: Mitt Romney's Hansome Gray Temples at March 13, 2014 05:00 PM (IW1TI)

661 i cannot however kill an animal, i leave that up to those better than i.
but I'll poke the hell outta potatos, and pull the heads off brocolli

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:00 PM (nqBYe)

662 649 And in turn that sucks. I had no dad. But I knew my mom loved me. I always knew that. Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 08:57 PM (291hy) Sorry about your dad. That's hard. I'm happy for you that you had a loving mother.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 05:01 PM (UAMVq)

663 I would like to take the Sanders pool but I don't want to give him my e-mail address.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 05:01 PM (sdi6R)

664 Remember that swift FBI team sent to Benghazi to investigate the raided, robbed and burned out terrorist site? Yeah, those guys are the ones probably sent to Malaysia. We may know something after they file their redacted report to Rep Issa in a couple of years.

Sleepless in Seattle = Malaise in Malaysia

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 05:01 PM (baL2B)

665 Living on a commune would be fun for about a week. After a week, not so much.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 05:01 PM (jucos)

666 I gave him one I don't use

Posted by: barbarausa at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (WWeoI)

667 643 5 little ones. Damn.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (M/TDA)

668 but I'll poke the hell outta potatos, and pull the heads off brocolli Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 09:00 PM (nqBYe) I had no idea you could be so brutal!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (UAMVq)

669 @644 Good stuff thanks for the link. Sounds like it has landed somewhere and I like your thoughts, getting a team together. What the fuck will they do will all the people? Ransom?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (0FSuD)

670 woohoo, we're so gonna win the Senate!

Posted by: Mitt Romney's Handsome Gray Temples at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (IW1TI)

671 665 I would like to take the Sanders pool but I don't want to give him my e-mail address.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 09:01 PM (sdi6R)

I signed mine Imashart but guess he has my IP. There is always spam.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (baL2B)

672 The fact that TSApre is needed sucks, but getting TSApre is nice. It's like the pre 9-11 days of airport security, where you keep your clothes on and leave everything packed while going through security. Considering the likelihood of stripping and unpacking actually catching something over not doing those things; I'm ok with the "reduced" security.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (3R7WS)

673 Trusck yeah, the housing might have to be quite spread out.

.. details details. i'm just not into them.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (nqBYe)

674 Hey i cook, i can run a tractor, i can uhm,, change nappies without throwing up on your shoes, and i do put together a home pretty well with little or nothing . Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:59 PM (nqBYe) Badonkadonk (nqBYe) That's hot.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:02 PM (qyfb5)

675 663 i cannot however kill an animal, i leave that up to those better than i. but I'll poke the hell outta potatos, and pull the heads off brocolli I don't cook or do anything else particularly useful, but I can read stories to the wee ones for hours on end. I am the undisputed Story Lady.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 05:03 PM (oMKp3)

676 It's under the floor. It sounds diggy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:03 PM (ZshNr)

677 Living on a commune would be fun for about a week. After a week, not so much.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 09:01 PM (jucos)

can't build a stockpile of guns nor force your daughters to sleep with the head guy in just a week

Posted by: The Dude at March 13, 2014 05:03 PM (bStrg)

678 So CNN says US officials say they think the plane is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 05:03 PM (ZPrif)

679 678 Mice?

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:04 PM (M/TDA)

680 Your role at the commune will be to crave brats at the appropriate times!

Posted by: Mitt Romney's Handsome Gray Temples at March 13, 2014 05:04 PM (IW1TI)

681 in a pinch i can help other mums give birth if they don't care about modern shit like meds. LOL

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:04 PM (nqBYe)

682 Heather, it's not you. Some women are not meant to be mothers. How do I know? Been there, done that. I did not speak to mine for the last three years of her life.

Hugs, hon.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 05:05 PM (MLvXa)

683 Hmm, never thought about dumb hijackers not knowing about the fuel on the plane. Allah will be pleased to see them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:05 PM (0FSuD)

684 678 lincolntf

Are you in Bertie County?
Could be one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/lxoat9v

Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 05:05 PM (aUQgu)

685 Paying people not to work with the earnings of people who work. And Mark Kirk was for it? I'm stunned.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 05:05 PM (291hy)

686 If the plane has been highjacked and people are still alive it would be great if a SEAL unit could go in. I just don't want President Lightbringer to take credit for the bravery and skill of others if such a plan were successful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 05:06 PM (XyM/Y)

687 grammie, see, how else will others have time to plow the fields if someone isn't keeping the wee ones entertained?

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:06 PM (nqBYe)

688 Bigger, maybe a groundhog. Neighbors dog went nuts when I first disturbed it, like it ran into his sight. I never got a good look, just heard the scramble. All the hallmarks of a baby skunk-ape?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:07 PM (ZshNr)

689 689 grammie, see, how else will others have time to plow the fields if someone isn't keeping the wee ones entertained? Exactly. I can get them singing and doing crafts and games too. On this I am an expert. I can make a game of anything.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 05:08 PM (oMKp3)

690 690 Bigger, maybe a groundhog. Neighbors dog went nuts when I first disturbed it, like it ran into his sight. I never got a good look, just heard the scramble. All the hallmarks of a baby skunk-ape? Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 09:07 PM (ZshNr) Could be a chupacabra.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 05:08 PM (UAMVq)

691 Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 09:00 PM (nqBYe) I'm still trap watch here, nothing yet but when there is, I get to use the lab skills again. (for the putting down, no dissection.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 05:08 PM (HDwDg)

692 It's sad to see some here who did not have a good relationship with their moms. FWIW.. my mom wasn't a very good mom when she was younger. My preteen and teen years were horrid. But we have become very close since my dad passed in 1999. Guess she maybe saw her mistakes and I was more than willing to forgive.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:08 PM (/IQip)

693 680 I know this is a terrible thing to say but anything that comes from the mouth of a " US official" these days I take with a grain of salt. I automatically assume they are tainted by the current administration and are either lying or telling a half truth.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:08 PM (M/TDA)

694 Preach it Tuna.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:10 PM (/IQip)

695 I know this is a terrible thing to say but anything that comes from the mouth of a " US official" these days I take with a grain of salt. I automatically assume they are tainted by the current administration and are either lying or telling a half truth. Everything they're putting out could be to create and monitor chatter, so you should question it.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 05:10 PM (k8m83)

696 692 Groundhogs love those sheds. I have a friend at work who has a new one move in under her shed every winter.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:10 PM (M/TDA)

697 If I had to guess, I'd say Lincolntf has a giant mutant spider infestation.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 05:11 PM (IV4od)

698 Sorry about your dad. That's hard. I'm happy for you that you had a loving mother.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 09:01 PM (UAMVq)

Thanks, I consider myself fortunate in this regard.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 05:11 PM (291hy)

699 676 Hey i cook, i can run a tractor, i can uhm,, change nappies without throwing up on your shoes, and i do put together a home pretty well with little or nothing .

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 08:59 PM (nqBYe) Badonkadonk (nqBYe)

That's hot.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 09:02 PM (qyfb5)

I am a nurse as well as an aging supermodel. I make gumbo. I can make fart noises with my hands in different pitches, useful in codes (think: Navajo Code. It confuses people including teachers as I can look angelic as I perform this trick). I can kill with one look and drive cars fast (won go-cart races vs older boys and clocked 90mph by Hwy Patrol when I first got license. Got in big trouble with that one). I can sometimes grow things in gardens if no snakes involved. I can parallel park. I can swim better and longer than anyone (i can also can be used as flotation devise, very floaty). I also speak three languages, badly, including Redneck. That is all and why I have corner unit of camp near AC. Also of royal blood and title. So there.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 05:11 PM (baL2B)

700 Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 09:07 PM (ZshNr) Fwiw the guy I called today said groundhogs weren't out here yet. He thought raccoon. In any case $130 was more than I could afford so DIY it is.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 05:11 PM (HDwDg)

701 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:11 PM (0FSuD)

702 696 Preach it Tuna. Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 09:10 PM (/IQip) Badonkadonk (/IQip) Now there's a sentence you don't see every day.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:12 PM (qyfb5)

703 Technically, the rationale for standing up Delta Force was to conduct raids on hijacked aircraft, so I think they would still be the lead for this. But I agree that expecting President Lightbringer to carry this out is not hopeful. There was the Captain Phillips rescue, but I suspect that was a decision of the on-scene commander more than the Messiah. Getting Bin Laden was a political decision, nothing more. But there's two examples that suggest my expectation is wrong.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 05:12 PM (3R7WS)

704 688 If the plane has been highjacked and people are still alive it would be great if a SEAL unit could go in. I just don't want President Lightbringer to take credit for the bravery and skill of others if such a plan were successful. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 09:06 PM (XyM/Y) That would require him to make, you know, an actual decision. Might happen in three or four weeks. You never know.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 13, 2014 05:12 PM (oFCZn)

705 704 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS. Nope.

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 05:13 PM (3R7WS)

706 694 my mom is basically insane. spent my teen years avoiding bringing anybody home t of sheer terror that decent folk might find out. utterly serious. didn't date until i left home.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:13 PM (KgN8K)

707 So there. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 09:11 PM (baL2B) Badonkadonk (baL2B) I had this whole funny response set to go, and then I realized - *you're competing.* *Over me.* You have *NO* idea how good my day just got.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:14 PM (qyfb5)

708 DYI should be fine. Havahart traps, chemical deterrents, etc. This is the first full year we haven't had at least one outdoor cat, the random rodent holes in the garden/yard have multiplied tenfold.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:14 PM (ZshNr)

709 dude, if HR was the worst thing her mom ever created, there must be about fifteen Sistine Chapels somewhere we don't know about

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2014 05:14 PM (30eLQ)

710 "It's under the floor. It sounds diggy."

Skunk.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 05:14 PM (gqT4g)

711 @703 Get this http://tinyurl.com/lwtylvl I got one, caught big ass raccoon. Introduced him to my 22LR pistol, yes I still have some ammo, and let him nap in my trash can.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:14 PM (0FSuD)

712 yeah i never thought i'd type charlie browns dildo
or perfect clitoris ever in my life .yet.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:14 PM (nqBYe)

713 lol Merovign. Guess that did look a little silly.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:15 PM (/IQip)

714 @712 I agree

Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 05:15 PM (3R7WS)

715 I'm pretty sure a ton is more than 2 lbs.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 05:15 PM (sdi6R)

716 713 If so, call the critter catcher

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:16 PM (M/TDA)

717 "Skunk."

Or, actually, if you have them in your area, badger.

It's fairly rare for badgers to dig a sett under a human house, but good luck getting them to leave if they do.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 13, 2014 05:16 PM (gqT4g)

718 my mom is basically insane. spent my teen years avoiding bringing anybody home t of sheer terror that decent folk might find out. utterly serious. didn't date until i left home.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 09:13 PM (KgN8K)

Same here.

Posted by: Carrie at March 13, 2014 05:16 PM (291hy)

719 709 694 my mom is basically insane. spent my teen years avoiding bringing anybody home t of sheer terror that decent folk might find out. utterly serious. didn't date until i left home. Raises hand. I hear ya. Only it was my dad. We are all wounded in some way or another. No one escapes unscathed. The choice is in how we make something beautiful out of the broken pieces.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 05:17 PM (oMKp3)

720 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS. A ton=2 lbs??? Holy shit!

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 05:17 PM (k8m83)

721 Nope. Posted by: Leland at March 13, 2014 09:13 PM (3R7WS) Yep. OK 755,000 http://tinyurl.com/n7phs3l

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:17 PM (0FSuD)

722 lol carrie mine got better once she got medication but shit that left a mark

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:17 PM (KgN8K)

723 Damn.. I need to go back on my diet.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:18 PM (/IQip)

724 775,000

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:18 PM (0FSuD)

725 And the only claim to the 83 Beirut blast was a group called Islamic Jihad.... which believe me, we looked for but could not find, as they really did not exist.

Having done some reading on the topic, I'm pretty sure that "Islamic Jihad" exists.

It's not the name of this or that group that matters . . .

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2014 05:18 PM (30eLQ)

726 hey, fappers! did not read the bazillion comments, just home and felt like company.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:18 PM (8lmkt)

727 fortunately i didn't have to deal with my father or i forgot .
either way, i know my siblings were hurt.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:18 PM (nqBYe)

728 723 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS. A ton=2 lbs??? Holy shit! Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 09:17 PM (k8m83) It's Common Core math.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 05:18 PM (sdi6R)

729 jewells!!! {{{{{}}}}} how's it going?

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:18 PM (8lmkt)

730 grammie, that is true.

hi -hi peaches!

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:19 PM (nqBYe)

731 This critter tolerates me being in the shed with a light on, but if I open the door, he's instantly gone, right under the floor I'm standing on. No hissing or spitting, just takes off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:19 PM (ZshNr)

732 731 723 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS. A ton=2 lbs??? Holy shit! Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 09:17 PM (k8m83) It's Common Core math. Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 09:18 PM (sdi6R) SIX Years of college down the drain. Don't tell my dad.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:19 PM (0FSuD)

733 Lincolntf it sounds like you need a #5

http://tinyurl.com/ny5fptq

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 05:19 PM (kxSZr)

734 Hi Peaches. Oh shit girl.. don't ask.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:20 PM (/IQip)

735 So one theory I've read is "stealth hypoxia". That theory would be there is some slow decline in oxygen levels. This leads to a confused crew. They are trying to respond, but are behaving irrationally -- turning things off, trying to turn around but just heading to the Indian Ocean. Anyway that's one of the non-bad guy theories. Slow hypoxia where the crew behaves irrationally for a some period before losing consciousness, then just cruising to the Indian Ocean until it runs out of fuel.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 13, 2014 05:20 PM (ZPrif)

736 704 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS. Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 09:11 PM (0FSuD) Math check....

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 05:20 PM (bCEmE)

737 At the camps, we'll be forced to assemble styrofoam columns and manufacture EBT cards.

Not forced. Encouraged.

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at March 13, 2014 05:20 PM (jnaVQ)

738 729 Here's what you missed...theories, theories, speculations, guesses and more theories and we still don't know what happened to that plane.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:20 PM (M/TDA)

739 We are all wounded in some way or another. No one escapes unscathed. The choice is in how we make something beautiful out of the broken pieces. Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 09:17 PM (oMKp3) Badonkadonk (oMKp3) I'd like to think we get partial credit for miles or years carrying the pieces.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:21 PM (qyfb5)

740 The 2# ton. Also known as the Chinese metric long ton.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 05:21 PM (Q8vlx)

741 740 At the camps, we'll be forced to assemble styrofoam columns and manufacture EBT cards. Not forced. Encouraged. Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at March 13, 2014 09:20 PM (jnaVQ) It's a tax!

Posted by: John Roberts at March 13, 2014 05:21 PM (UAMVq)

742 We are all wounded in some way or another. No one escapes unscathed. The choice is in how we make something beautiful out of the broken pieces.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 09:17 PM (oMKp3)

well said, wisewoman of the HQ! at some point in life, one must turn around and walk forward and stop blaming and making excuses. I had a crazy mom, but she did what she did because she thought it was the best thing to do for us. Not my place to pass judgment.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:21 PM (8lmkt)

743 Hey, Peach.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 05:21 PM (MLvXa)

744 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS. I'd check your math, but I'm still getting the knack of typing BOOBIES on my calculator.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 05:21 PM (bgyzB)

745 Now you know why I quit EE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:21 PM (0FSuD)

746
I am almost as qualified as President Obama on matters of Constitutional law, and Bill O'Reilly does not understand the concept of acquired knowledge to produce my highly valued opinion.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee, D-TX at March 13, 2014 05:22 PM (nQjHM)

747 If by some miracle you accidentally squawked 7700 ATC would probably ask you if you squawked 7700 and you would say, "yeah that was me, opps sorry", and that would be that Yeah, that's SOP. Confirm declaring an emergency.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 13, 2014 05:22 PM (fkPNN)

748 726 Damn.. I need to go back on my diet. Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 09:18 PM (/IQip) Badonkadonk (/IQip) More to love! (This thread is all about the love! Well, and the conspiracy theories, but mostly the love!)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:22 PM (qyfb5)

749 And I really, really want to know what happened to that fuckin' plane. This is nuts.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:23 PM (8lmkt)

750 751 726 Damn.. I need to go back on my diet. Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 09:18 PM (/IQip) Badonkadonk (/IQip) More to love! (This thread is all about the love! Well, and the conspiracy theories, but mostly the love!) Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 09:22 PM (qyfb5) I'm a spy in the house of love

Posted by: Jim Morrison at March 13, 2014 05:23 PM (UAMVq)

751 Ok I am not a fan of the "this is wholesome" honeymaid commercial.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 05:24 PM (RZ8pf)

752 This is how Ernie dug 16 tons everyday.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:24 PM (0FSuD)

753 If a terrorist attack by a group, they might claim responsibility. If it was a state-sponsored act, probably not.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 05:25 PM (DmNpO)

754 I agree Peaches. This is truly a head scratcher.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:25 PM (/IQip)

755 And I really, really want to know what happened to that fuckin' plane. This is nuts. Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 09:23 PM (8lmkt) Badonkadonk (8lmkt) http://bit.ly/1cYFFPS

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:25 PM (qyfb5)

756 The missing plane doesn't interest me. I really don't give a shit. No offense intended to those that do.

Posted by: Carrie at March 13, 2014 05:25 PM (291hy)

757 Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 09:14 PM (ZshNr) Ask CBD, i'm the anti peter singer, so the havaheart traps are a prelude to a put down

. Plus, the conservation department frowns on relocation

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 05:26 PM (HDwDg)

758 @755 Ernie digging! http://tinyurl.com/4shhabl

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:26 PM (0FSuD)

759 Merovign, i remember hearing a rabbi discuss crime, it was rather interesting depending on the level of crime and what the perps history was , if they did so and so but didn't so and so that perp overcame something or other and would be considered a perp that was growing beyond his personal experience and could possibly save himself/herself.

it wasn't actually legalize, or criminal on the same level as justice court stuff , but as a person that had many bad experiences and overcame and the furtehr they came the higher they actually were spiritually..

anyway i used that analogy as part of this discussion because i could. and i thought placed things into an easier understandabilty

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:26 PM (nqBYe)

760 I think we need a Twilight Zone thread.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 13, 2014 05:26 PM (r7mtu)

761 http://tinyurl.com/lzr626c This is from IBD last month. they really were the only ones to completely expose the SCOAMF for what he would be.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 05:27 PM (gjOCp)

762 I am the gangster of love . . . although some people call me Maurice. In any case, I really love your peaches wanna shake your trees.

Posted by: Steve Miller at March 13, 2014 05:27 PM (8lmkt)

763 legal-eeze*

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:27 PM (nqBYe)

764 Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 09:17 PM (oMKp3) You can't be at this place and not be broken. I mean c'mon we're all a bit crazy.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 05:28 PM (HDwDg)

765 oh nevermind, i went way out there in my explanation.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:28 PM (nqBYe)

766 http://bit.ly/1cYFFPS

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 09:25 PM (qyfb5)

oh, bless your heart, Mero!!! asked and answered, eh? lol!

Posted by: Steve Miller at March 13, 2014 05:28 PM (8lmkt)

767 If a terrorist attack by a group, they might claim responsibility. If it was a state-sponsored act, probably not. OTOH, if the goal was to steal the jet and use it as a weapon later, that would point to a terrorist group, and not a state. Surely Iran or North Korea could come up with a jet of their own.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 05:29 PM (k8m83)

768 I just don't like the idea of deadly traps out in the open, thus the Havaharts. If you like exterminating your vermin, you can keep exterminating your vermin.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:29 PM (ZshNr)

769 I LOVE YOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Brother Love at March 13, 2014 05:29 PM (jucos)

770 oops

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:29 PM (8lmkt)

771 754 Honeycomb is Big yeah yeah yeah

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:29 PM (KgN8K)

772 Grammie......thanks for that little bit of wisdom. BTW. Been following you since the "good" old days..ahem. Cough, cough when you commented on that blog that shall remain mostly nameless but contains the word "green"

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:29 PM (M/TDA)

773 You can't be at this place and not be broken. I mean c'mon we're all a bit crazy.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 09:28 PM (HDwDg)

Crazy is not the same thing as broken. I don't think there are many "broken" people here in the horde. Plenty of crazy, sure, but don't say that like it's a bad thing . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:30 PM (8lmkt)

774 Jesus H.. anyone watching the Kelly Files? They just showed a video of a cop shooting a 70 year Vietnam vet who was reaching for his cane from the bed of his truck. Cop thought it was shotgun and opened fire. Damn.. I feel for both of them. The cop was clearly distraught.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:30 PM (/IQip)

775 763 I think we need a Twilight Zone thread. Shit, remember that one about the monsters on the wing of the plane and the guy goes nuts? Guess who went nuts, the actor? http://tinyurl.com/23rz3n

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:31 PM (0FSuD)

776 Wow. Who is this Carrie person. Is that someone being sarcastic or serious?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 05:31 PM (RZ8pf)

777 being broke and broken are two different things.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:32 PM (nqBYe)

778 Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 09:29 PM (M/TDA) Talk about crazy, that small green fblog was the epitome of taking a left turn into nutville.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2014 05:32 PM (oMKp3)

779 it wasn't actually legal(ese), or criminal on the same level as justice court stuff , but as a person that had many bad experiences and overcame and the furtehr they came the higher they actually were spiritually.. Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 09:26 PM (nqBYe) Badonkadonk (nqBYe) I'm not sure I go that far, but it is a common idea, unfortunately leading to situations I saw when I was younger where people who were moderate screw-ups got all the attention and people who did well enough but still had issues were ignored. I probably hang onto that a little when I should forget it, but there you are. I got a lot of "you're smart enough to do this on your own," so I did, but on my own. Still there.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:32 PM (qyfb5)

780 PGS.. she doesn't give a shit. Kind of sad.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:32 PM (/IQip)

781 70 year Vietnam vet who was reaching for his cane from the bed of his truck. Cop thought it was shotgun and opened fire. Damn.. I feel for both of them. The cop was clearly distraught. ------------ Yeah I saw it. I agree with you to a point but I mean damn, was the cop not wearing his glasses or something. He wasn't that far away from him.

Posted by: Adam at March 13, 2014 05:32 PM (Aif/5)

782 Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 09:29 PM (ZshNr) The extermination would be easier if not for the rules against firearm discharge that includes for some reason, air rifles.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 05:33 PM (HDwDg)

783 No I mean the graham cracker.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 05:33 PM (RZ8pf)

784 Wow. Who is this Carrie person. Is that someone being sarcastic or serious?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 09:31 PM (RZ8pf)

yeah, she's kind of a pill, eh? i guess the nic "debbie downer" was already taken, lol!

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:33 PM (8lmkt)

785 I am trying to think of the special day the terrorist(s) will announce the highjacked plane. April Fool's? Hitler's b-day? What is a special mooslem day in calendar? Or! When I next fly overseas! That's the ticket! egad. I do not know why I let my son talk me into this stuff. Let us pray.

I will be sad for the people if this plane is found crashed. But not surprised if Iran is involved as well as ::cough:: cover ups galore and magnified to the root cause of Joey Biden's last synapse.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 05:33 PM (baL2B)

786 Carrie, go away.

We may be crazy here, but we're not heartless.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 05:34 PM (MLvXa)

787 OTOH, if the goal was to steal the jet and use it as a weapon later, that would point to a terrorist group, and not a state. Surely Iran or North Korea could come up with a jet of their own. *** Yes. But I am speaking to, although not clearly so, an act other than the taking of the plane. I stated earlier that the reason they may not be taking credit/blame is because taking the plane is not the end game.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 05:34 PM (DmNpO)

788 The missing plane is a metaphor for the lost individual sovereignty of primitive utero-centric societies. Carrie gets it now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:34 PM (ZshNr)

789 70 year Vietnam vet who was reaching for his cane from the bed of his truck. Cop thought it was shotgun and opened fire. Damn.. I feel for both of them. The cop was clearly distraught. *** I teared-up for both of them. The cop crying and apologizing and the Vet telling him he was going to be okay,

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 05:35 PM (DmNpO)

790 /tosses in Lysol bomb

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 05:35 PM (m9V0o)

791 nah Carrie is OK been here awhile, just blunt

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:35 PM (KgN8K)

792 Crazy is not the same thing as broken. I don't think there are many "broken" people here in the horde. Plenty of crazy, sure, but don't say that like it's a bad thing . . . Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 09:30 PM (8lmkt) Badonkadonk (8lmkt) Girl, I am a bag of glass shards. I've become fairly good at dragging around without cutting anyone, but that's not quite whole. On the other hand, I'm *fairly* sure I ain't kookoobananas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:35 PM (qyfb5)

793 759 The missing plane doesn't interest me. I really don't give a shit. No offense intended to those that do. Posted by: Carrie at March 13, 2014 09:25 PM (291hy) I don't give a shit that you don't give a shit.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 13, 2014 05:35 PM (bCEmE)

794 merovign, lol i was going to go on another 3 paragraphs about the Book and those with much have more responsibility to something or other because of their intitial gifts. comparing to those that started at the bottom of the heep

but i won't! i promise
promise.
zips fingers together.

sits and looks at the frogs playing.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:36 PM (nqBYe)

795 723 Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS. A ton=2 lbs??? Holy shit! Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 09:17 PM (k8m83) CRAP!!! I weigh 105 TONS????? I need to go on a diet...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 05:36 PM (84gbM)

796 I saw House of Love in 1993, headlining after Catherine Wheel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJIbRa-65_8

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2014 05:36 PM (30eLQ)

797 Shit seeds!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:36 PM (ZshNr)

798 @778 Two minute summary. http://tinyurl.com/qfbxxjp

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:36 PM (0FSuD)

799 The missing plane doesn't interest me. I really don't give a shit. No offense intended to those that do. *** Well then, unless you can interest someone in a subject to your liking, you may want to just sit back on this one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 05:36 PM (DmNpO)

800 On the other hand, I'm *fairly* sure I ain't kookoobananas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 09:35 PM (qyfb5)

well, I love you . . . and the horde . . . and I am eternally grateful that all of us goofy fuckers have found each other! it's a blessing in my life, truly.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:37 PM (8lmkt)

801 NDH.. thank God the cop was a lousy shot, right?

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:37 PM (/IQip)

802 No I mean the graham cracker.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 13, 2014 09:33 PM (RZ8pf)

mmm, shmores.

Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 05:37 PM (nqBYe)

803 Drowning is a PITA, but lucky for me, lab work has taught me well about how to gas animals with limited resources. (And before anyone says "aww how mean." it's illegal to relocate if it's a groundhog ) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 06:27 PM (HDwDg) Sealed container + dry ice = dead critter Or, you could just get the pitching wedge.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 05:37 PM (afNM6)

804 You can't be at this place and not be broken. I mean c'mon we're all a bit crazy.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 09:28 PM (HDwDg)

Crazy is not the same thing as broken. I don't think there are many "broken" people here in the horde. Plenty of crazy, sure, but don't say that like it's a bad thing . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 09:30 PM (8lmkt)

I think being a conservative means one is crazy in the contemporary setting. It is to go against the flow. Being broken is an individual circumstance.

Posted by: Carrie at March 13, 2014 05:37 PM (291hy)

805 I don't give a shit that you don't give a shit. Posted by: Tami ------------------------ Has anybody here ever taken a dump so big that they could pull their belt up a notch after they finished?

Posted by: Ron White at March 13, 2014 05:37 PM (4Mv1T)

806 741 729 Here's what you missed...theories, theories, speculations, guesses and more theories and we still don't know what happened to that plane. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 09:20 PM (M/TDA) And of course the usual wiseassery.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 05:37 PM (sdi6R)

807 Amen Peaches.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:38 PM (/IQip)

808 Jewells45, Is that Mochelle website still up? You were the one that enjoyed going on it? I think it was you.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 05:38 PM (gjOCp)

809 we're not going to get a new thread ever

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:38 PM (KgN8K)

810 NDH.. thank God the cop was a lousy shot, right? *** No kidding!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 05:38 PM (DmNpO)

811 803 it's a blessing in my life, truly. wow, what a coincidence T has a full back tattoo that says Joe is a blessing in my life, truly

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 13, 2014 05:38 PM (At8tV)

812 Whoever suggested that the dumb towel heads didn't check the fuel and thought they could fly to Iran was probably correct. Full the 777 can go 7,000 miles, enough to fly around India and land in Iran.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:39 PM (0FSuD)

813 I haven't been following this as closely as some others (although it does interest me) but I thought they had found debris in the Indian Ocean? That's not part of the plane or just not large enough to be the entire thing?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 05:39 PM (XyM/Y)

814 HereÂ’s another idea thatÂ’s all too believable. The plane was hijacked, and the idiots told the pilot to fly to Iran. They fell a bit short.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 05:39 PM (k8m83)

815 sits and looks at the frogs playing. Posted by: willow at March 13, 2014 09:36 PM (nqBYe) Badonkadonk (nqBYe) http://youtu.be/zEgcLrgxUOw

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:39 PM (qyfb5)

816 Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 09:30 PM (/IQip) Sadly... this is what happens when you indoctrinate the police into the idea they are at War with everyone... Did you hear the Cop who was trying to make him feel better??? 'You did what you had to do'.... BULLSHIT... that is what is called.... enabling...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 05:40 PM (84gbM)

817 Has anybody here ever taken a dump so big that they could pull their belt up a notch after they finished? ive taken a dump so big all that was left was coveralls and boots

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 13, 2014 05:40 PM (At8tV)

818 817 HereÂ’s another idea thatÂ’s all too believable. The plane was hijacked, and the idiots told the pilot to fly to Iran. They fell a bit short. Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 09:39 PM (k8m83) They should have made that left turn at Albuquerque.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 13, 2014 05:40 PM (UAMVq)

819 Lincolntf the #5 is not as bad as it looks. I've stepped on them in the dark (yes alcohol was involved). It clamps down on your shoe tight enough that you gotta take the shoe off to free your foot, then both feet are free to open the trap and retrieve shoe.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 05:40 PM (kxSZr)

820 Carol.. no she shut it down. Sadly, I was not able to wreak much havoc there. Too bad.. I was really looking forward to it.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:40 PM (/IQip)

821 809 "And of course the usual wiseassery." Like fine wine.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:40 PM (M/TDA)

822 ~~~sigh~~~ did I stumble into a cop hate thread?

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 13, 2014 05:41 PM (At8tV)

823 you're full of it NCJ

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:41 PM (KgN8K)

824 822 Lincolntf the #5 is not as bad as it looks. I've stepped on them in the dark (yes alcohol was involved). It clamps down on your shoe tight enough that you gotta take the shoe off to free your foot, then both feet are free to open the trap and retrieve shoe. Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 09:40 PM (kxSZr) And then it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (afNM6)

825 Wow, this thread *was* about the love. Sheesh.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (qyfb5)

826
Plane weights 800,000 Lbs. 400,000 TONS.
Posted by: Nip Sip

"He's not the best color man in the league for nothing, folks!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (kdS6q)

827 Malaysia recruits witch doctors to find missing Boeing passenger jet
Ibrahim Mat Zin, famous shaman called Â‘king of the witch doctorsÂ’ performs ritual at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Reports say he was invited by government officials.

Oh yeah Top men, Top Men

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 06:25 PM (t3UFN)

Yannow, it probably costs next to nothing to have the old boy do his bump and grind at the airport, and it placates those people (possibly quite a few) who still believe in that nonsense, and it also takes the press heat off those who are doing worthwhile work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (sWPKW)

828 I agree Romeo.. I thought that was pretty disgusting but then again.. heat of the moment.. maybe that's all he could think of to spew out of his piehole.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (/IQip)

829 Broke, broken, broken in. Which is more attractive?

Posted by: wooga at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (uGsU8)

830 Sealed container + dry ice = dead critter Or, you could just get the pitching wedge. Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 09:37 PM (afNM6) It's really down to this and one of those gasser sticks. The hardware store that sells those is closer, but they pose more problems than the dry ice. (Although I have to find a container big enough to hold the trap.) Come now, I've killed hundreds to thousands of mice in my time, I got this

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (HDwDg)

831 Jewells, the FOMs over at Michelle Obama's Mirror were devastated when she shut that site. It was a constant source of snark.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (MLvXa)

832 were full of . it maybe

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:42 PM (KgN8K)

833 Status: highjacked
By whom: 'religion' of peace
Purpose: strike great or little satan

Posted by: Erowmero at March 13, 2014 05:43 PM (1gcFZ)

834 Navycop.. no. I actually feel bad for the cop as he was clearly distraught. Just a horrible set of circumstances.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:43 PM (/IQip)

835 And of course the usual wiseassery. Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 09:37 PM (sdi6R) And the obligatory sassback.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 05:43 PM (afNM6)

836 I'm more worried about neighborhood cats and dogs than stepping in my own trap... Says the guy right before he steps into his own trap.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:44 PM (ZshNr)

837 There's something incongruous about the subject matter at hand and the picture of the pony hugging his mom. It's just wrong. I know I'm going to have dreams about that pony tonight and he's going to tell me where that plane went.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:44 PM (M/TDA)

838 Jewells45, IÂ’m sorry that you miss it. At least you got to wreak havoc on in while it was up.

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 05:44 PM (gjOCp)

839 Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 09:42 PM (/IQip) As I posted earlier today.... I'm a believer that in the heat of the moment... whether through Stress... Anger... or drunk... THAT is when the real person is revealed... as they do not have time to edit.... The Superior person is he who does not really change under stress...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 05:45 PM (84gbM)

840 Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 09:44 PM (ZshNr) I warned the neighbor who lets her little dog of the leash. I figure that puts me off the hook

(It is a havaheart trap, but its an old one that's harder to open, so I'm not keen on getting anything out.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 13, 2014 05:46 PM (HDwDg)

841 There's something incongruous about the subject matter at hand and the picture of the pony hugging his mom.

--

Ace probably couldn't find a picture of a pony under a huge pile of $#!+, which would have been more appropriate

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 13, 2014 05:46 PM (/i3Yt)

842 Broke, broken, broken in.

Which is more attractive?

Posted by: wooga at March 13, 2014 09:42 PM (uGsU

All of the above are unattractive.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 05:47 PM (291hy)

843 Romeo.. hmmm.. duly noted.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:47 PM (/IQip)

844 I honestly don't care if they dig holes in my yard, what am I using that four inches of real estate for something else? I just like to see/know what lives in the neighborhood, not kill or capture it. Except for the Squatch of course, that head goes on the wall.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:48 PM (ZshNr)

845 I know I'm going to have dreams about that pony tonight and he's going to tell me where that plane went. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 09:44 PM (M/TDA) Badonkadonk (M/TDA) If he looks up at you and has no eyes and says "We have such wonderful things to show you," just wake up right then. Trust me on this.

Posted by: Lieutenant Starck[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:48 PM (qyfb5)

846 The new turbo V6s in F1 sound weird.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 05:48 PM (bgyzB)

847 815 Whoever suggested that the dumb towel heads didn't check the fuel and thought they could fly to Iran was probably correct. Full the 777 can go 7,000 miles, enough to fly around India and land in Iran. Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 09:39 PM (0FSuD) I like that. That's actually plausible.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 05:49 PM (sdi6R)

848 I once took a dump so big that it had it's own teeth.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 05:49 PM (jucos)

849 I once took a dump so big that it had it's own teeth.

Mine had a flea collar in it once.

Posted by: Barry Dunham at March 13, 2014 05:50 PM (30eLQ)

850
The Superior person is he who does not really change under stress...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 09:45 PM (84gbM)

Shoutin' amen, bro! I know a really smart and narcissistic ex-friend, a superior attorney, smarter than anyone in room, yada, who goes bananas under stress. Totally banana cwazy-pants when the rest of her family, under the recent stress of a very ill mother, keeps it together. It is repeat behavior.

I can't do algebra but I keep my gourd together during stress and hysteria. I go into an out-of-body numb state that takes awhile to shake. When I worked in trauma I used to come home at 7pm to sons and husband eating, tell them hi, but I'll eat later, thanks. And go zombie for about 30 minutes. Not sure if that was normal but that is what I have done since I witnessed a really bad accident involving my Daddy (who survived) when I was 16. I am who you want around if all hell breaks loose. I am crazy but pace myself!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 05:51 PM (baL2B)

851 Waterhouse: They really screwed the pooch on that. The sound sucks. Just like Indycar. Give me some damn noise, that's what I paid for.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 05:52 PM (Q8vlx)

852 I once took a dump so big it became the first black President of the United States.

Posted by: Ann Dunham at March 13, 2014 05:52 PM (k8m83)

853 852 I once took a dump so big that it had it's own teeth.

Mine had a flea collar in it once.

Posted by: Barry Dunham at March 13, 2014 09:50 PM (30eLQ)

Oh, the things I find my church-lady self laughing at here. I should give you all up for Lent.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 05:52 PM (baL2B)

854 Christy I am the same way. It may take me hours even days but when the shit hits.. I perform. I fall apart later.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 05:52 PM (/IQip)

855 And then it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 09:42 PM (afNM6)

no pics?

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:52 PM (8lmkt)

856 @847 I am pretty sure it will be a raccoon. The one I caught was digging up sod to get the grubs under the sod. Use a can of open cat food. Leave can behind the trap plate, the bastards are smart. When he reaches over the plate he will set it off. Make sure trap is on something, mine dug like hell trying to get out of trap and made a mess of the yard under the trap. You then fill your trash can with water and drop trap in can. Come back in an hour and open trap pour dead coon back in trash can after your empty water out.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:53 PM (0FSuD)

857 So, what I have heard is that indeed the transponders were turned off, and turned off independently. That tells me hijack, or hijack by pilot. The plane changed course to the West or Southwest. That tells me incompetent hijacker who crashed it into the Indian Ocean, or it was closing in on KL or another large city, and it was shot down and nobody wants to talk about it until any co-conspirators on the ground are apprehended.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 13, 2014 05:53 PM (/i3Yt)

858 cleanup on aisle 855

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 05:54 PM (8lmkt)

859 Being in the ER strapped to machines is boring. I shout at traffic sometimes. It's like I have some kind of stress bell curve thing going on. The middle of the range sucks, either end is cool.

Posted by: Lieutenant Starck[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 05:54 PM (qyfb5)

860 830
Malaysia recruits witch doctors to find missing Boeing passenger jet

Ibrahim Mat Zin, famous shaman called Â‘king of the witch doctorsÂ’
performs ritual at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Reports say he
was invited by government officials.

Oh yeah Top men, Top Men

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2014 06:25 PM (t3UFN)
Yannow, it probably costs next to nothing to have the old boy do his bump and grind at the airport, and it placates those people (possibly quite a few) who still believe in that nonsense, and it also takes the press heat off those who are doing worthwhile work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 13, 2014 09:42 PM (sWPKW)

What is worse is I read the rest of the story to see where they thought the plane was. I got: nothing for effort.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 05:54 PM (baL2B)

861 Blunt object to back of skull - try to sweep upward from the shoulder location - internal decapitation - it's as easy as clubbing baby seals.

Posted by: Burt Taoist at March 13, 2014 05:55 PM (80R0X)

862 If it's not rabid or cryptozoological, I'm not going to mess with it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 05:55 PM (ZshNr)

863 i was thinking that shooting in the garage thinger was awesome til i remembered I've got all sorts of chemicals there

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 13, 2014 05:55 PM (KgN8K)

864 "759 The missing plane doesn't interest me. I really don't give a shit. No offense intended to those that do.

Posted by: Carrie at March 13, 2014 09:25 PM (291hy)"

Well, "Carrie", if that is your name, as the title of the post is clearly; "Flight 370..."

Why the fuck did you feel obligated to comment on it?

You really can't take a hint, can you?

Posted by: ChrisP at March 13, 2014 05:56 PM (Z6lrM)

865 At my house we call dumps/shits, democrats. Honey, I need to take a democrat, be right back.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:56 PM (0FSuD)

866 For more unbearable cuteness, check out the Shetland ponies wearing Fair Isle sweaters: http://www.visitscotland.com/blog/scotland/shetland-ponies-in-cardigans/

Posted by: biancaneve at March 13, 2014 05:56 PM (2sR50)

867 Ecstasy is taking a dump big enough to make your back pop back into alignment.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 05:57 PM (kxSZr)

868 865 If it's not rabid or cryptozoological, I'm not going to mess with it. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 09:55 PM (ZshNr) Maybe that witch doctor guy could make a house call after he's done locating that plane and giving me the winning lotto numbers...

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 05:57 PM (afNM6)

869 849 waterhouse

V6? In F1? wait....what?

Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 05:58 PM (aUQgu)

870 Just an observation about the "voodoo" at the Malaysian airport. The one group that Saudi fundamentalist Muslims hate more than the Western Great Satan is those Malaysian island Muslims/Animist who worship both Allah and the spirit coconuts. The fundamentalist really loath that type of Islamic worship and are always declaring fatwas on them. Maybe whatever happened to the plane was you better start practicing my Islam terrorist act?

Posted by: Frank at March 13, 2014 05:58 PM (7Nabg)

871 869 Holy smoke. That's a lot of knitting and fair isle ain't that easy.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 05:59 PM (M/TDA)

872 Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 09:56 PM (0FSuD)

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Iasonas at March 13, 2014 05:59 PM (FHNkr)

873 A good dump will curl around and fill up a toilet. We call that a Senatorial democrat.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 05:59 PM (0FSuD)

874 If MH370 had been hijacked by a crew member one would think they would know the range.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 05:59 PM (MLvXa)

875 Woof F1 went off the rails. V6 turbos this year. Sound like gd sewing machines.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 06:00 PM (Q8vlx)

876 I'm going with hijacking

Posted by: johnny at March 13, 2014 06:00 PM (zVreQ)

877 870 Ecstasy is taking a dump big enough to make your back pop back into alignment. Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 09:57 PM (kxSZr) or when you're almost afraid to flush, fearing it will get stuck, and you'll have to get the shovel and two hefty bags.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:01 PM (afNM6)

878 Posted by: Frank at March 13, 2014 09:58 PM (7Nabg) would be really funny if he found it though....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 06:01 PM (84gbM)

879 Faaawwwwcccckkkkkk New thread?

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 06:01 PM (QfIU3)

880 Does anyone remember the comic strip done by Robert Asprin called 'The Capture'?

In short, aliens capture an entire cruise ship load of passengers which turns out to have been a science fiction convention. The passengers then drive the aliens insane with questions, dismantling equipment, and so forth. Fairly witty.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 13, 2014 06:01 PM (vHRtU)

881 V6? In F1? wait....what? Yeah, a new engine formula for this year. 1.6 liter turbo V6s, limited to 15k RPM.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 06:02 PM (bgyzB)

882 Lagertha time.

Posted by: just a reminder at March 13, 2014 06:02 PM (stVgz)

883 877 If MH370 had been hijacked by a crew member one would think they would know the range. Yeah, but we don't know if crew was involved. You would think if they were alive they would mention the fuel and range to the hijackers. Means they were killed?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:02 PM (0FSuD)

884 Well, "Carrie", if that is your name, as the title of the post is clearly; "Flight 370..."Why the fuck did you feel obligated to comment on it?You really can't take a hint, can you?

Posted by: ChrisP at March 13, 2014 09:56 PM (Z6lrM)

You got me. You caught me in some contradiction. I am properly chastened.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 06:02 PM (291hy)

885 879 I'm going with hijacking Posted by: johnny at March 13, 2014 10:00 PM (zVreQ) Me too, but one with an unexpectedly short timeline. Hijacking ensues, transponders off, beeline to the abyss.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:03 PM (afNM6)

886 Plane is in Ukraine. I send army to find it.

Posted by: Putin at March 13, 2014 06:03 PM (AO9UG)

887 New thread?

Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 10:01 PM (QfIU3)

dream on, thunderb! what's on your mind?

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:03 PM (8lmkt)

888 As of now, 10 pm, my kitties can't eat anything. Tomorrow is the great disemballing-surgery for both of them. Poor little guys have no idea.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 06:04 PM (ZshNr)

889 New thread? Posted by: thunderb at March 13, 2014 10:01 PM (QfIU3) Badonkadonk (QfIU3) You think that'll help?

Posted by: Lieutenant Starck[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:04 PM (qyfb5)

890 OK NC morons. I am sick of this cold weather. The damn trees are starting to bloom and it's 34 degrees. Give me a break.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:04 PM (0FSuD)

891 Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 10:03 PM (afNM6) Abdhul: You will fly us to Bumfuckistan... Pilot: we don't have the fuel... Abdhul: You lie infidel.... fly us to Bumfuckistan or die!

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 06:04 PM (84gbM)

892 You'll get nothing! And like it!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (jucos)

893 Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 10:0

Sort of OT but not ... Richard Dawkins went off about the voodoo thing at the airport and sounded just like the fundamentalist Muslims.

Posted by: Frank at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (7Nabg)

894 891 Ignorance is bliss.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (M/TDA)

895 884 V6? In F1? wait....what? Yeah, a new engine formula for this year. 1.6 liter turbo V6s, limited to 15k RPM. Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 10:02 PM (bgyzB) Wouldn't that be Formula Two?

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (afNM6)

896 As of now, 10 pm, my kitties can't eat anything. Tomorrow is the great disemballing-surgery for both of them. Poor little guys have no idea.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 10:04 PM (ZshNr)

they will be fine, Lincolntf! my dumbass ex-husband could not even bring the cat to the vet for that, acted like it was his bawls. it's not, they will be fine. men!!!

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (8lmkt)

897 Given cockpit security, it seems more likely to me that one of the pilots would be the hijacker himself. Guess I didn't make that clear.

Of course, with the stories of the co-pilot inviting women into the cockpit for the flight, cockpit security on that airplane may not have been what it ought to be.

Geez, you don't suppose it was a woman?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:05 PM (MLvXa)

898 Abdhul: You lie infidel.... fly us to Bumfuckistan or die! Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 10:04 PM (84gbM) Abdhul, you dumb shit/democrat. Look a gauge HERE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:06 PM (0FSuD)

899 Creeper.. definately a possibility.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 06:07 PM (/IQip)

900 891 As of now, 10 pm, my kitties can't eat anything. Tomorrow is the great disemballing-surgery for both of them. Poor little guys have no idea. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 10:04 PM

Men always take it personal when they castrate their pets. They will have better and healthier lives.

Posted by: Frank at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (7Nabg)

901 @889

Thread winner.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (MLvXa)

902 Richard Dawkins probably wants to protect himself from Radical Muslims. Lots of those in England. They're here too-just not quite as vocal as over there,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (XyM/Y)

903 At this point I'm ready to say Bigfoot was involved. Yeti Liberation Front?

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (AO9UG)

904 Thanks, you're right. Intellectually I know it's right, but it also feels kind of wrong on a visceral level. They'll be fine I know, but I hate that it's necessary.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (ZshNr)

905 Geez, you don't suppose it was a woman? Hmmm. How many jihadi women have the looks to get invited to the cockpit?

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (k8m83)

906 where the fuck is the ONT? does Niedermeyer have to do *everything* around here?

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:08 PM (8lmkt)

907 Wispy and creepy undertaker, Hawwy Weid, speaks creepily in a wispy voice. That is all.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 13, 2014 06:09 PM (HsTG8)

908 Sort of OT but not ... Richard Dawkins went off about the voodoo thing at the airport and sounded just like the fundamentalist Muslims. Posted by: Frank at March 13, 2014 10:05 PM (7Nabg) Badonkadonk (7Nabg) So, situation normal? I really do enjoy when the "burn the heretic" atheists do their imitations of the Spanish Inquisition. Would be nice if *they* knew they were doing it, as well. You know, spread the humor around.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:09 PM (qyfb5)

909 Okay.. whoever is in charge of the ONT.. you get no overtime.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 06:09 PM (/IQip)

910 Lincolntfs' kitties:
Hey! Tomorrow we're gonna get tutored!

Posted by: ChrisP at March 13, 2014 06:09 PM (Z6lrM)

911 909 does Niedermeyer have to do *everything* around here? ?????? I could use a nice salad with tonight's pizza

Posted by: navycopjoe at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (At8tV)

912 Ibrahim Mat Zin, famous shaman called Â‘king of the witch doctorsÂ’
performs ritual at Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
He said: Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang Walla walla, bing bang

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (ImNRL)

913 Nip - 25 deg., 1" of snow last night. I'm hoping the grass is suffering 'shrinkage'. Looks like maybe 21 deg. tonight.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (aDwsi)

914 ONT transponders turned off.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (0FSuD)

915 902 Creeper.. definately a possibility. Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 13, 2014 10:07 PM (/IQip) Well, they're going about that whole 'empowerment' thing all wrong. Besides, Allah probably doesn't dig the faithful/infidel ratio on that flight manifest.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (afNM6)

916 The ONT sent its last transmission 25 hours ago.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:10 PM (AO9UG)

917 878 884 Chavez, Waterhouse

============================

Some kind of environmental consciousness going on in F1? Green renewable biodiesel goodness? We're toast. Only the Europeans do this.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 06:11 PM (aUQgu)

918 916 Nip - 25 deg., 1" of snow last night. I'm hoping the grass is suffering 'shrinkage'. Looks like maybe 21 deg. tonight. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 10:10 PM (aDwsi) I guess I should shut up. They are still skiing at Sugar!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:11 PM (0FSuD)

919 I really do enjoy when the "burn the heretic" atheists do their imitations of the Spanish Inquisition. LOL, What a great way to put it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2014 06:11 PM (XyM/Y)

920 I want myÂ… I want myÂ… ONT

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (AymDN)

921 Richard Dawkins probably wants to protect himself from Radical Muslims.

Sometimes he goes on a Twitter tear against them. Not often enough IMO, but sometimes.

Posted by: Barry Dunham at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (30eLQ)

922 off dogeating sock

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (30eLQ)

923 What's the difference between a bitch and a whore? A whore sleeps with everybody at the party; A bitch sleeps with everybody at the party except you. __________________________________________________________ What's the difference between a Catholic wife and a Jewish wife? A Catholic wife has real orgasms and fake jewelry.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (8lmkt)

924 Hmmm. How many jihadi women have the looks to get invited to the cockpit? Posted by: gewa ---------------- Depends on what you mean by 'cockpit'.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (aDwsi)

925 Ibrahim Mat Zin, famous shaman called Â‘king of the witch doctorsÂ’

Isn't that the guy Obama went on holloween dressed as and called everybody racisst because they guessed he was dressed as a witch docter?

Posted by: Burnt Taoist at March 13, 2014 06:12 PM (80R0X)

926 908 Geez, you don't suppose it was a woman? Hmmm. How many jihadi women have the looks to get invited to the cockpit? Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 10:08 PM (k8m83) Persian women are cfuking awesome. I've seen them with my own eyes.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 06:13 PM (sdi6R)

927 916 Nip - 25 deg., 1" of snow last night. I'm hoping the grass is suffering 'shrinkage'. Looks like maybe 21 deg. tonight. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 10:10 PM (aDwsi) 74 here tomorrow.... my Lady has the day off, so I'm taking the afternoon off... heading to the lake to do some bicycling...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 06:13 PM (84gbM)

928 remember the SNL skit when they spilled a Coke on the control panel at Three Mile Island and the reactor melted down and Garret Morris and Jimmy Carter saved everyone by going inside the reactor and radioactivity turned them into homo giants?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (IW1TI)

929 Geez, you don't suppose it was a woman?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 10:05 PM (MLvXa)

>>>>>>>>>>>

Nah. If it was a woman she would have stopped somewhere to ask for directions once she realized she was lost.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (jucos)

930 Hannity just said that gov't folks the airplane was hijacked and landed in an undisclosed location.

So.... Dick Cheney's fault?

Posted by: Anachronda at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (U82Km)

931 Posted by: Burnt Taoist at March 13, 2014 10:12 PM (80R0X) You put the lime in the coconut and find plane in the morning....

Posted by: Which Doctor? at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (84gbM)

932 Yeah, it's suppose to warm up Friday then rain Sunday. I can not get excited about ACC Tournament this year. Can't remember all the new fucking teams.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (0FSuD)

933 Hannity just said that gov't folks the airplane was hijacked and landed in an undisclosed location.

So.... Dick Cheney's fault?

Posted by: Anachronda at March 13, 2014 10:14 PM (U82Km)

works for me

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:14 PM (8lmkt)

934 Some kind of environmental consciousness going on in F1? Green renewable biodiesel goodness? We're toast. Only the Europeans do this. Posted by: NCwoof ------------- It would be disgusting, if they weren't so freaking fast. Do I recall correctly that the greenie cars get a fuel break compared to the gasoline cars? Are[[/i] there any gasoline cars?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:15 PM (aDwsi)

935 Woof: pretty sure some greeny shit going on. Sure miss the sound of that 12 cylinder Ferrari.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 06:15 PM (Q8vlx)

936

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:15 PM (aDwsi)

937 Brush with the barrel

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:15 PM (aDwsi)

938 ONT would be nice. I swear every time I refresh the screen those horses are talking to me. Can't you all see it too? Those eyes of theirs. So calm and knowing. They know where that plane is and they know that I know that they know.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:16 PM (M/TDA)

939 Looks like we're going for 1000 again before the ONT.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 06:16 PM (sdi6R)

940

Earlier people were sharing customs stories in re JackStraw's return to the US (from Brazil, I think). Welcome back, Jack (1985 was a very good year, spent mostly in Brazil ..... dayum).

Anyway, after years of globetrotting (mostly to places not as nice as Brazil, but more, uh, "interesting") I've hardly traveled a bit for 5 years now. Just a few trips to Japan. So last time I came back, I knew my alienation from the country was genuine.

First, the portrait of that ridiculous affirmative action non-entity "president", who couldn't have been an intern for me in any job I've had, defacing the entry area ..... I was disgusted, not happy, to return to "my" country. I literally shook my head, exhaled in disgust - I'd forgotten that pathetic symbol of our national degradation would be the first f**king thing I'd see when off the plane.

As I stood in the line at passport, I could only think "heh, 120 miles south of here, the border is unsecured, your colleagues in the Border Patrol operate under absurd ROE, and here I am in line so you can check my fucking passport?". And half the people in the non-US citizens line have busted their ass and played by the rules and paid money to come here legally, and the few I saw being led off to secondary for immigrant visas had REALLY busted their ass REALLY played by the rules and spent money to come here legally.

The passport guy says "welcome back home" ..... never boorish to the help, no matter the circumstances, I managed a weak smile, said thanks for your work here, and said "well, way I see it now days, I just live here". He managed a weak smile back - inside he's going "hmmm, weird one here", perhaps? - and said something polite.

Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 06:16 PM (afQnV)

941 let's give it our best moron effort, rickl!

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:16 PM (8lmkt)

942 Wow, if it actually ends up being a hijack/landing, this shit s just beginning. Keeps hope alive for surbpvivors, a bit.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 06:17 PM (ZshNr)

943 Posted by: Frank at March 13, 2014 10:08 PM (7Nabg)

Says you.

If it's so great, why aren't you getting yourself done?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:17 PM (LSDdO)

944 Khan has captured the ReliONT and awaits for Kirk to spring the trap

Posted by: Revengenesis at March 13, 2014 06:17 PM (FbMva)

945 remember the SNL skit when they spilled a Coke on the control panel at Three Mile Island and the reactor melted down and Garret Morris and Jimmy Carter saved everyone by going inside the reactor and radioactivity turned them into homo giants? Posted by: sooth ------------- 'The Pepsi Syndrome'. A play on 'The China Syndrome'. From a time when SNL was not politically correct.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:17 PM (aDwsi)

946 I'm doubtful about any crash. No EPIRBs from the rafts, no ELT signals and the EDMs were sending system information for several hours after last sighting. I suspect they were hijacked and flown to a destination friendly to the highjackers.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 13, 2014 06:18 PM (60Vyp)

947 the pilot spilled a Coke on the instrument panel, hilarity ensued, and then disaster

Posted by: soothsayer at March 13, 2014 06:18 PM (IW1TI)

948 We've seen this landing a hijacked plane before. Remember back in the 70's I think and the Israeli or Germans or somebody attacked it and freed hostages.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:18 PM (0FSuD)

949 there are no survivors, Linc. and, if there are, they need our prayers even more than if they are already in a better place.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:18 PM (8lmkt)

950 948 And funny.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:18 PM (M/TDA)

951 I swear every time I refresh the screen those horses are talking to me. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 10:16 PM (M/TDA) Badonkadonk (M/TDA) Hay.

Posted by: Those Horses[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:19 PM (qyfb5)

952 It was Pepsi. The Pepsi Syndrome.

Posted by: freaked at March 13, 2014 06:19 PM (JdEZJ)

953 Hmm. If it proves to be a hijacking, them as is responsible may have some trouble with the Chinese..., assuming that it wasn't the Chinese that did it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:19 PM (aDwsi)

954 Some kind of environmental consciousness going on in F1? Yeah, although that's been going on for a while. They've had KERS (electric hybrid) systems for a few years now, whose energy capacity they've massively enlarged this year. That wouldn't actually be that bad, since the drivers all say the extra torque assist from the electric motor makes the cars trickier to drive, easier to slide the tail out, which could be fun to see. OTOH they're limited to I think 100 liters of fuel per race as well, which means they can't actually go flat out the whole race. Races may end up bizarre.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 06:19 PM (bgyzB)

955 940 Brush with the barrel Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 10:15 PM (aDwsi) Nice save!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:19 PM (0FSuD)

956 odds that the cobs are all sittin' around, pounding the valu-rite, and giggling at us going for 1000 before they roll out the ont?

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:20 PM (8lmkt)

957 The Plane is at Entebbe?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 06:20 PM (jucos)

958 The Boeing 777 most likely landed in Chabahar Iran close to the Pakistani border. It is a little used international Airport with twice weekly flights to Oman. It was provably orchestrated by the IRGC using the same crew that hacked the U.S. drone from Afghanistan last year. It is less likely that Balushistani separatists had the technical abilities to undertake such an operation. The jet has most likely been moved to another location for retrofitting for an asymmetrical "martyrdom" operation against Israel or another target of opportunity with dirty payload or worse. The fate of the passengers is likely grim and no witnesses can be allowed to survive unless China is somehow complicit after the fact to get their own nationals returned. There also may have been. Persons of interest on board as well who may have been part of the package to be interrogated by the IRGC. They are desperately trying to root out informants within their ranks. Just saying...

Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 06:20 PM (J4QVA)

959 Colt - "Mommy, please don't let Mr. Lincoln do that to me."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:21 PM (aDwsi)

960 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:21 PM (MLvXa)

961 954 Hay to you.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:22 PM (M/TDA)

962 Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 10:20 PM (J4QVA)

works for me

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:23 PM (8lmkt)

963 @961 Not enough fuel, UNLESS they got a ground guy to fill the plane up, BUT the crew would see that in the check out list and the weight would be wrong for take off, so that couldn't happen. WSJ graphics. Might be firewalled. http://tinyurl.com/ley9nf9

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:23 PM (0FSuD)

964 I want my I want my ONT

Posted by: Dire Straits at March 13, 2014 06:23 PM (Aif/5)

965 Waterhouse: is ecclestone in the joint or has that not been settled yet?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 06:23 PM (Q8vlx)

966 I fantasize about young colts draping themselves around my 'neck'

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at March 13, 2014 06:23 PM (Q6pxP)

967 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane? Posted by: creeper ------ Deflection from Obamacare, unpopularity, Ukraine, etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:23 PM (aDwsi)

968 Hay to you. Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 10:22 PM (M/TDA) Badonkadonk (M/TDA) Thanks! NOM NOM NOM

Posted by: Those Horses[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:23 PM (qyfb5)

969

If the plane was hijacked, wouldn't the hijackers come out with a list of demands? Hijacked to what end? I am thinking Sudden Jihad Syndrome with one or both of the muzzie pilots.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 06:24 PM (jucos)

970 Good point on the lack of ELT from this flight, but in support of my Boeing=fire theory it was a lithium ELT battery that caused the last 787 fire.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 13, 2014 06:24 PM (kxSZr)

971 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane? Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 10:21 PM (MLvXa) Badonkadonk (MLvXa) An opportunity to get on the news without answering political questions? And you ask?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:24 PM (qyfb5)

972 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 10:21 PM (MLvXa)

because they have *never* known how to shut their fuckin' pieholes when they are completely ignorant of that of which they speak.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:24 PM (8lmkt)

973 5 little children on that plane. All 5 years and under.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:24 PM (M/TDA)

974 Now, four years and an ACLU-backed lawsuit later, city police agreed to a sweeping settlement: money to Sharp and his attorneys, a formal written apology from the police commissioner and, most importantly, a new department policy spelling out expectations of city officers being recorded. Â“I think itÂ’s pretty clear people have the right to film what we do. You guys are doing it right now so it should be a norm for this organization,Â” Police Commissioner Anthony Batts said.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 13, 2014 06:25 PM (e8kgV)

975 5 little children on that plane. All 5 years and under. -------------- Not Muslims, so, who cares?

Posted by: Fuzzy Muzzy at March 13, 2014 06:26 PM (aDwsi)

976 so, you guys got any weed? (asking for a friend)

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:26 PM (8lmkt)

977 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 10:21 PM (MLvXa)

Because it is now standard practice for "Government" to be involved in everything.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 06:27 PM (291hy)

978 Posted by: Fuzzy Muzzy at March 13, 2014 10:26 PM (aDwsi Lame

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:27 PM (AO9UG)

979 963 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane? Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 10:21 PM (MLvXa) What has the Obama White House ever not released statements about?

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 06:27 PM (sdi6R)

980 979 so, you guys got any weed? (asking for a friend) Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 10:26 PM (8lmkt) Sadly, no.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:28 PM (AO9UG)

981 C'mon horde. We can push this thing over the one grand mark. Heave!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:28 PM (aDwsi)

982 979 so, you guys got any weed? (asking for a friend) Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 10:26 PM (8lmkt) Badonkadonk (8lmkt) All over the freakin' lot. Help yourself. Tastes like crap, though.

Posted by: Those Horses[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:28 PM (qyfb5)

983 What has the Obama White House ever not released statements about? Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 10:27 PM (sdi6R) The chick at the IRS that took the 5th.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:28 PM (0FSuD)

984 bought a box of .38 hollowpoints today, they didn't have the regular kind and I'm going shooting on Sunday. hope they don't kick my ass.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:28 PM (8lmkt)

985 is ecclestone in the joint or has that not been settled yet? He's not in the clink, but I haven't paid much attention to exactly what's happening. Guy always seems to be being sued for some thing or other.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (bgyzB)

986 saying lame is lame just saying

Posted by: soothsayer at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (IW1TI)

987 I will help push this over 1000, but first you will blow me

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (Q6pxP)

988 777 had fuel to spare even flying just south of Shri Lanka then heading due north west to chalabahar. Did the math. I am sure others have as well.

Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (J4QVA)

989 @979

Sadly, no. But if you locate any would you let me know?

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (MLvXa)

990 Sadly, no.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 10:28 PM (AO9UG)

shoves a hit through the usb port to eman . . . poof!

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (8lmkt)

991 984 Putting my back into it

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (M/TDA)

992 I don't know, we only need 10? Guns we hate them here.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (0FSuD)

993 1000!!!

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (8lmkt)

994 If the plane was hijacked, wouldn't the hijackers come out with a list of demands? Hijacked to what end? I am thinking Sudden Jihad Syndrome with one or both of the muzzie pilots. ** The hijacking may not be the end game.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (DmNpO)

995 dang

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (8lmkt)

996 OK then let's do this

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (0FSuD)

997 1000!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (DmNpO)

998 937 @Mike Hammer

NHRA

Dirt track Sprint cars (need to check this)

Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (aUQgu)

999 bought a box of .38 hollowpoints today, they didn't have the regular kind and I'm going shooting on Sunday. hope they don't kick my ass. Posted by: Peaches -------------------- What's different about them? (This is not a test)

Posted by: Ron White at March 13, 2014 06:29 PM (4Mv1T)

1000 now

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (0FSuD)

1001

Nip Sip, there were of course Entebbe (Israeli rescue, led by Bibi's brother, who was only KIA on the mission) and Mogadishu a bit later, which was a hijacked Lufthansa flight and featured, I believe, the only use of German armed forces outside the country since April 1945 (Grenzeschutzgruppe-9, their Delta).

Speaking of that last one, I was very amused to see the hinomaru (red meatball) of the Japanese flag on the shoulder of a sentry at an airbase in Kuwait back in 2006. Thought - "now there's something you haven't seen since 1945". We were passing out of the base on a bus bound for Kuwait International. Said something to one of the other passengers (I believe an IT contractor assigned to some remote FOB in the north), who gave me a quizzical look. Hate it when someone isn't as much of a history freak as I am .....

Posted by: non-purist at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (afQnV)

1002 Two of those children were US citizens.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (MLvXa)

1003 OFF dang comedian sock

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (4Mv1T)

1004 Okay.
Everybody PUSH!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (LSDdO)

1005 Niedermeyer, for the win!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (8lmkt)

1006 bought a box of .38 hollowpoints today, they didn't have the regular kind and I'm going shooting on Sunday. hope they don't kick my ass. Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 10:28 PM (8lmkt) Badonkadonk (8lmkt) Unlikely. Even if they're +P+ they're lighter (recoil) than a .357 Magnum.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (qyfb5)

1007 1000? Well one trillion sounds a lot smaller than 1000 billion

Posted by: Barky O'Bamastain at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (Q6pxP)

1008 935 I can not get excited about ACC Tournament this year. Can't remember all the new fucking teams. Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 10:14 PM (0FSuD) ----------------------------- That's what BIG does. Destroys familiarity and closeness.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (dfYL9)

1009 AMF horde.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (0FSuD)

1010 970 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane? Posted by: creeper ------ Deflection from Obamacare, unpopularity, Ukraine, etc. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 10:23 PM (aDwsi) Quite correct...Anything to turn attention from the monumental failure that is this administration.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:30 PM (afNM6)

1011 What's different about them?

(This is not a test)

Posted by: Ron White at March 13, 2014 10:29 PM (4Mv1T)

little more kick, lot more stopping power . . . which isn't too important when you're shooting paper targets.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:31 PM (8lmkt)

1012 1,000? Shit that's 500 tons!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 06:31 PM (0FSuD)

1013 {hoists NDH onto shoulders for victory lap}

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:31 PM (MLvXa)

1014 Kidnapped by Aliens and then the folks are safely returned and they possess awesome superpowers. Like making frozen pizza taste good.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:32 PM (AO9UG)

1015 >>>The Plane is at Entebbe?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 10:20 PM (jucos)

Is there another Netanyahu brother who could lead a raid? Bibi probably would, but probably not a great idea.

Posted by: just wondering at March 13, 2014 06:32 PM (KCNdV)

1016 Looks like we've got to go to 2000.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:33 PM (LSDdO)

1017 This is interesting http://www.pprune.org/8373635-post3030.html

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:33 PM (DmNpO)

1018 Unlikely. Even if they're +P+ they're lighter (recoil) than a .357 Magnum. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 10:30 PM (qyfb5) Ever play the 'put a .357 in the cylinder after the .38's' gag with a new shooter? Hoots and hijinks! It's pop,pop,pop,pop,pop,BLAMMO!

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:33 PM (afNM6)

1019 The reason that I'm such an insufferable prick is that I never got a pony like that one for Christmas when I was a child.

Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at March 13, 2014 06:33 PM (Dwehj)

1020 "Good point on the lack of ELT from this flight"

We're substituting our rules for theirs. Unless it's coming into the U.S. planes from these places have a whole different set of regulations, they might not require an ELT.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 13, 2014 06:33 PM (IV4od)

1021 The cobs must be out looking for that airliner...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (m9V0o)

1022 In the year 2525 the ONT still hasn't arrived

Posted by: The caddy that zags at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (FbMva)

1023 hubby's hypothesis - Due to either malfunction or hijacking, take your pick, communication is shut down, and the plane starts flying off the planned course... some twitchy Chinese just see a plane in an unexpected area, and one that won't respond to requests to identify itself...and decide to shoot it down. Big OOPS. And then stonewall and misdirect...

Posted by: Sister Sestina at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (Em6d4)

1024 the bff was gonna bring some .357s for me to try, but realized he doesn't have any. sheesh, some friend, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (8lmkt)

1025 BTW, the Iran IRGC , it they successfully pulled this off never issues demands. They just blow stuff up. If this is the case, we better wake the guys up at Diego Garcia and get on this before everything becomes FUBAR.

Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 06:34 PM (J4QVA)

1026 NDH - Absolute bullseye. Damn fine call...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:35 PM (aDwsi)

1027 The cobs are running a book on how many comments we get to.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:35 PM (LSDdO)

1028 Ever play the 'put a .357 in the cylinder after the .38's' gag with a new shooter? Hoots and hijinks! It's pop,pop,pop,pop,pop,BLAMMO! Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 10:33 PM (afNM6) Badonkadonk (afNM6) No. I don't mix guns and surprises.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:35 PM (qyfb5)

1029 Why is the White House issuing statements about that plane? Zach Galifianakis asked about it.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 06:36 PM (k8m83)

1030 Interesting link, NDH. It looks like we're the only ones concentrating on the west.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:36 PM (MLvXa)

1031 Like making frozen pizza taste good.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 10:32 PM (AO9UG)

This is something that has thus far proved beyond mans grasp. It may be an impossible task.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 13, 2014 06:36 PM (291hy)

1032 so, what, now we're going for 2000? gettin' time for me to begin the tv and marijuana portion of my evening. oh, yeah, food. that's why the weed is so helpful, i will eat.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:36 PM (8lmkt)

1033 I am queen of the thread! You will bow down to me!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:37 PM (DmNpO)

1034 Some Malaysians took that whole Machines for Sale thing way too seriously.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:37 PM (AO9UG)

1035 the bff was gonna bring some .357s for me to try, but realized he doesn't have any. sheesh, some friend, eh? Posted by: Peaches -------------- Your senses will be grateful. Practice with the .38's

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:37 PM (aDwsi)

1036 We could make it to the Norman Conquest.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 06:37 PM (dfYL9)

1037 Might not have taken off OR been on it's filed flight path.

That area has been a haven for pirates for 1,000's of years.

No surprise if they decide to take a plane.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:37 PM (LSDdO)

1038 I am queen of the thread! You will bow down to me!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 10:37 PM (DmNpO)

I will bow down to anyone!!!

Posted by: Barky the appeaser/warmonger at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (8lmkt)

1039 Woof NHRA most fan friendly motorsport . Going to Vegas the end of the month. Can't wait.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (Q8vlx)

1040 1066?

we've got 20 minutes or so.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (LSDdO)

1041 1031 Ever play the 'put a .357 in the cylinder after the .38's' gag with a new shooter? Hoots and hijinks! It's pop,pop,pop,pop,pop,BLAMMO! Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 10:33 PM (afNM6) Badonkadonk (afNM6) No. I don't mix guns and surprises. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2014 10:35 PM (qyfb5) I do. The only surprised reaction I get is 'hey, that wasn't so bad after all...why was I such a wuss about the .357 before?'.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (afNM6)

1042 A pony might have saved me from a miserable life of commie douchebagery.

Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (Dwehj)

1043 one of the birds in my yard says, "peter peter peter"

another one says, "cheeseburger cheeseburger"

Posted by: ( I learned the truth from ) Lenny Bruce at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (omBWL)

1044 Interesting link, NDH. It looks like we're the only ones concentrating on the west. *** It seems they are looking for a landed plane.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:38 PM (DmNpO)

1045 NHRA most fan friendly motorsport . Going to Vegas the end of the month. --------- Well, except for the hearing loss part.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:39 PM (aDwsi)

1046 NHRA most fan friendly motorsport . Going to Vegas the end of the month. --------- Well, except for the hearing loss part.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:39 PM (aDwsi)

1047
First!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2014 06:39 PM (gorVZ)

1048
First!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 13, 2014 06:39 PM (gorVZ)

1049 Almost last!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (qyfb5)

1050 Almost last!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (qyfb5)

1051 991 777 had fuel to spare even flying just south of Shri Lanka then heading due north west to chalabahar. Did the math. I am sure others have as well. Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 10:29 PM (J4QVA) The 777-200ER has a maximum range of 8800 miles, per Wikipedia. But Flight 370's intended flight to Beijing was only about 2700 miles. Commercial airliners don't haul a full load of fuel for no reason when the scheduled flight doesn't require it. It's not economical to do that. Dragging that excess weight around affects fuel mileage, and thus the airline's bottom line. That's why I think the suggestion that terrorists tried to hijack it to Iran but failed to take into account that it didn't have a full fuel load is very funny, and also very plausible.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

1052 991 777 had fuel to spare even flying just south of Shri Lanka then heading due north west to chalabahar. Did the math. I am sure others have as well. Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 10:29 PM (J4QVA) The 777-200ER has a maximum range of 8800 miles, per Wikipedia. But Flight 370's intended flight to Beijing was only about 2700 miles. Commercial airliners don't haul a full load of fuel for no reason when the scheduled flight doesn't require it. It's not economical to do that. Dragging that excess weight around affects fuel mileage, and thus the airline's bottom line. That's why I think the suggestion that terrorists tried to hijack it to Iran but failed to take into account that it didn't have a full fuel load is very funny, and also very plausible.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

1053 Did everyone see Trey GowdyÂ’s speech on the House Floor today? It was great!

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (gjOCp)

1054 Did everyone see Trey GowdyÂ’s speech on the House Floor today? It was great!

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (gjOCp)

1055 poo-tee-weet

Posted by: Kurt Vonnegut at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (aDwsi)

1056 poo-tee-weet

Posted by: Kurt Vonnegut at March 13, 2014 06:40 PM (aDwsi)

1057 William the Bastard is loading the boats!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (dfYL9)

1058 William the Bastard is loading the boats!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (dfYL9)

1059 Well this is comedy gold. You know that twit that turned to pr0n acting to pay for college? Turns out she's a womyn's studies major.

Yeah, nothing says women's rights like pr0n.

Can't make this stuff up.

http://tinyurl.com/mwl2d7r

Posted by: Iasonas at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (FHNkr)

1060 Well this is comedy gold. You know that twit that turned to pr0n acting to pay for college? Turns out she's a womyn's studies major.

Yeah, nothing says women's rights like pr0n.

Can't make this stuff up.

http://tinyurl.com/mwl2d7r

Posted by: Iasonas at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (FHNkr)

1061 1034 It can be done though. A little of this and a little of that and then sprinkle some fennel( crushed or powdered) on top.

Posted by: Tuna at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (M/TDA)

1062 Hammer Word. And the nitro fumes in the pits will kill a cold if you have one.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (Q8vlx)

1063 The Iranians saw the movie "Airplane!" and are going to disguise the hijacked plane as an Israeli plane.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:41 PM (AO9UG)

1064 Tanks near Kursk! History is doing another encore and donuts on Fukuyama's yard.

Posted by: Beagle at March 13, 2014 06:42 PM (sOtz/)

1065 Too many refreshing too much.

Okay everybody line up and go in order.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:42 PM (LSDdO)

1066 It seems they are looking for a landed plane.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 10:38 PM (DmNpO)

that is really, chilling, Niedermeyer

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:42 PM (8lmkt)

1067 William was a bastard.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:42 PM (LSDdO)

1068 What's up, bitches?

Posted by: William the Conqueror at March 13, 2014 06:42 PM (k8m83)

1069 And a son of Vikings.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (LSDdO)

1070 Someone feed the hamsters. The comments are loading s-l-o-wwwww.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (4Mv1T)

1071 So very close

Posted by: William the Conqueror at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (k8m83)

1072 Someday when I'm wading in the ocean for days waiting for sharks to eat me I'll take comfort and smile knowing there's people out there on a blog commenting for post numbers in a thread.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (IW1TI)

1073 http://tinyurl.com/k7rzzu4 I was going to put in GowdyÂ’s speech but found this tidbit that people are enraged that there was not a CIA investigation into Benghazi, despite being let to believe that there was one. SCOAMF must have shut it down!

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (gjOCp)

1074 1036 I am queen of the thread! You will bow down to me! ---------- But first...........

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (Aif/5)

1075 Land ho! Hastings, here we come!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (dfYL9)

1076 The COB's are busy trying to hide the Plane that they hijacked

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (jucos)

1077 it that plane is intact and functional, well, fuck

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (8lmkt)

1078 The Second to make the assault.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (LSDdO)

1079 1015 1,000? Shit that's 500 tons! Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 10:31 PM (0FSuD) 500 tons and whada ya get... another day older and deeper in debt. Saint Peter don't ya call me, cause I can't go... Theres no ONT on ace's blog roll...

Posted by: A blast from the past... at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (84gbM)

1080 1031

Terrify a new shooter? Yeah, that strategy always works.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (aUQgu)

1081 If anyone is wondering where this Flight 370 landed, I believe you can find it in......Shangri La!

Posted by: Zombie FDR at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (OXzvH)

1082 Okay everybody line up and go in order.

We beg of you.

Posted by: The AoS Hamsters at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (Dwehj)

1083 Hammer Word. And the nitro fumes in the pits will kill a cold if you have one. Posted by: Chavez ------------------- Yeah. I was in the pits at Indy about 40 years ago. Everyone (used to) run exotic stuff during qualifying. It was an eye-watering, lung-searing experience.

Posted by: Kurt Vonnegut at March 13, 2014 06:43 PM (aDwsi)

1084 Maet Maet Maet .......

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (ojnk6)

1085 NDH, Are you doing the ONT tonight?

Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (gjOCp)

1086 There we went.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (dfYL9)

1087 1045 A pony might have saved me from a miserable life of commie douchebagery. Posted by: Dingy Harry Reid at March 13, 2014 10:38 PM (Dwehj) Well, I'm sure your parents knew what you really meant by 'going for a pony ride'...pervert. I'm sure they thought twice about buying you a stuffed animal pony...or taking you to the petting zoo...or unchaining you from the cast iron pipe in the crawlspace.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (afNM6)

1088 what condition were the bodies in of the Challenger astronauts?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 13, 2014 06:44 PM (IW1TI)

1089 Posted by: Carol at March 13, 2014 10:43 PM (gjOCp) Its the 'new' Government under Obammy! The CIA was busy, so they sent the FBI!

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2014 06:45 PM (84gbM)

1090 OH Maetenloch. Come out and Plaaaaayyyyyy

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:45 PM (LSDdO)

1091 ont's up. once again misanthropic has cheated and got first. damn him.

Posted by: Peaches at March 13, 2014 06:45 PM (8lmkt)

1092 ONT!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 06:45 PM (DmNpO)

1093 Will we make it to The Black Death?

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:45 PM (AO9UG)

1094 Someday when I'm wading in the ocean for days waiting for sharks to eat me I'll take comfort and smile knowing there's people out there on a blog commenting for post numbers in a thread. Just close your eyes, go to sleep ... and the clowns will eat you first ...

Posted by: Adriane... at March 13, 2014 06:46 PM (qoKTg)

1095 rickl, if fuel were substantially cheaper in Malaysia than in Bejing, where it was goig, they could well have loaded extra. Fuel load isn't determined only by length of flight.

Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 06:46 PM (MLvXa)

1096 Kurt, weren't they using rocket fuel derivatives or something then?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 13, 2014 06:46 PM (Q8vlx)

1097 No. We won't.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:46 PM (AO9UG)

1098 1066 - Nicely done Bill, but, GET OFF MY LAWN, you freaking Gaul.

Posted by: Brits everywhere at March 13, 2014 06:46 PM (aDwsi)

1099 NOOD

Run you bitches run

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Microaggressive SoCon) at March 13, 2014 06:46 PM (LSDdO)

1100 Somebody should stay here in case the plane lands nearby.

Posted by: eman at March 13, 2014 06:47 PM (AO9UG)

1101 BTW, the Iran IRGC , it they successfully pulled this off never issues demands. They just blow stuff up. If this is the case, we better wake the guys up at Diego Garcia and get on this before everything becomes FUBAR. Also, regarding fuel allowances , all jets carry a minimum of 25% surplus to account for weather and other in forseen events that require circling for Landon permission or being diverted to other airports.

Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 06:48 PM (J4QVA)

1102 Chavez - off with Vonnegut sock. I have no idea what they were using, but nitro methane was certainly a part of the mix. With all of those cars in the pits, there was no way to get away from the exhaust fumes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 13, 2014 06:48 PM (aDwsi)

1103 what condition were the bodies in of the Challenger astronauts? Well, we know McAuliffe had dandruff 'cos they found her head and shoulders on the beach. I still remember that joke from 2nd grade.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 13, 2014 06:48 PM (k8m83)

1104 1042 1048 Chavez MikeHammer

Noise from great motors?

One of the best parts. Shooter ears work.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 06:50 PM (aUQgu)

1105 760 Posted by: Lincolntf at March 13, 2014 09:14 PM (ZshNr) Ask CBD, i'm the anti peter singer, so the havaheart traps are a prelude to a put down . Plus, the conservation department frowns on relocation Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 09:26 PM (HDwDg) It would be fun to relocate to the right place...although I think that a 'peace studies seminar' or similar would be difficult to infiltrate with a live, pissed-off raccoon or something of the larger rodent persuasion.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:50 PM (afNM6)

1106 1075 1031 Terrify a new shooter? Yeah, that strategy always works. Posted by: NCwoof at March 13, 2014 10:43 PM (aUQgu) If they can shoot .38 loads, it's hardly fucking terrifying...just surprising. Each and every one (there have been four thus far) had pistol experience before, as I start them on the .22. Within two hours, they're begging to shoot the .45 a few more times.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 13, 2014 06:55 PM (afNM6)

1107 1090 rickl, if fuel were substantially cheaper in Malaysia than in Bejing, where it was goig, they could well have loaded extra. Fuel load isn't determined only by length of flight. Posted by: creeper at March 13, 2014 10:46 PM (MLvXa) Sure, they would have loaded more than the minimum needed to make it to their intended destination (Beijing), but they may not have loaded enough to make it to Iran. According to Google Earth, the straight-line distance from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing is 2700 miles, and to Teheran is 3900 miles. That's a pretty big difference. Even the southern tip of Iran is 3100 miles, and that involves flying directly over the middle of India. Staying over the ocean and avoiding overflying India would have brought it closer to 3900 miles again. Even allowing a generous reserve for the intended flight to Beijing might have left them short of fuel for a flight to Iran.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 06:58 PM (sdi6R)

1108 I would like to take the Sanders pool but I don't want to give him my e-mail address.

Posted by: rickl at March 13, 2014 09:01 PM (sdi6R)

Hell, just make one up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 13, 2014 07:03 PM (sWPKW)

1109 If the pilot was in on it, dontcha think he would top off the normal fuel load? Just saying...

Posted by: blog force one at March 13, 2014 07:06 PM (J4QVA)

1110 1020 This is interesting

http://www.pprune.org/8373635-post3030.html

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 13, 2014 10:33 PM (DmNpO)

"Macaca!"

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 13, 2014 07:08 PM (baL2B)

1111 Plus, the conservation department frowns on relocation

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 13, 2014 09:26 PM (HDwDg)

Just take them out of state, or drop them off in the inner city, although that might be cruel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 13, 2014 07:14 PM (sWPKW)

1112 Yeah, but we don't know if crew was involved. You would think if they were alive they would mention the fuel and range to the hijackers. Means they were killed?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 10:02 PM (0FSuD)

Of course the hijackers would be certain to doubt any statements that the crew made.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 13, 2014 07:29 PM (sWPKW)

1113 Look a gauge HERE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 13, 2014 10:06 PM (0FSuD)

"Lying infidel gauges, controlled by a secret switch! We are onto your tricks, infidel."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 13, 2014 07:32 PM (sWPKW)

1114
The interesting thing about MH370 (to me) is that it occurred at hand-off.

Malay was telling them: "Contact Ho Chi Mihn Center at 129.6, or whatever.
Mh370 would repeat 129.6. Thank you and goodnight.

That would be the last contact with Malaysia, and they would expect the transponder to disappear, as Ho Chi Mihn would give them a new "squawk" .
They did NOT contact Ho Chi Mihn.

At this point, there is a large span of time where they do NOT need to be talking to anyone. Mayay-Center has released them to Ho Chi Mihn, whom they have not contacted

They turned the transponders off.

They disengaged the auto-pilot and went their own way.
The ACARS says the engines ran for another 4 hours. Where did they fly to, and what is the fate of the PAX?

When, IF, this is ever explained, it will be a GOOD story.

Posted by: ChrisP at March 13, 2014 07:56 PM (Z6lrM)

1115 Susan Rice will be telling us what happened on this Sunday's talk shows. Of course, by that time, what difference will it make.

Posted by: gracepmc at March 13, 2014 08:01 PM (rznx3)

1116 Who was on the plane? cui bono?

Posted by: NYC Parent at March 13, 2014 08:30 PM (a9hZn)

1117 There is a country that has banned cell phones. There is a country that has its people so intimidated odds are good a secret would be kept. Cameras banned. They have 78 airfields. About 15 are military. Of that 15, 3 are suited for large bomber aircraft. 2 of those airfields are around the largest and second largest cities. 1 airfield is remote, has hangars, and could support a departure of a B777 fully loaded. It's located on the coast surrounded by mountains. So.... If the engine data is correct. And if you consider those 20 electronic warfare experts with whatever laptops or equipment they had with them as valuable, then... Sondok Air Base, North Korea fits this Exactly! Convince the FO. Provide the FO a cyanide pill for the Captain. No one in the back would know anything. The sun would come up as normal. The first clue something was wrong would be short final to the Sondok Airbase. Too late. No cell phones would work for panic phone calls. Passengers would be killed except for the 20 warfare experts. North Korea would renege on its deal to the FO, killing him too. The aircraft would be dismantled and destroyed. Hmmm. Find the holes in the story please. Because I can't.

Posted by: GrogNerd at March 14, 2014 02:50 AM (6e6WZ)

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