1 Already sent him $50. Challenge all morons to do the same.

2 You think that the ACORN/Black Panther voting machine will let this guy even come within 10 points of a democrap?

3 I am drunk, so I am giving him money. You all should follow my example.

4 Ethics charges were all ready thrown at Ms. Abortion from Brown charging that she used state resources to rally SEIU volunteer support.  SEIU involved? Think about it.
Cue up Aerosmith's Dream on

5 1.  Done.

6 If MA voters break Obamacare, a black hole will swallow the Twilight Zone and Teddy Kennedy will come back as Santa Claus. 

Here's hoping to see a drunken sleigh driver running off into a river with a pretty blonde next year...(tips up Valu Rite bottle)

7 WeÂ’re seeing a political tsunami in the making, and passage of health-care legislation would only add to its size and force.

We discussed this in the prior thread, and for whatever reason it doesn't seem to faze them one bit.

8 Are we supposed to ignore the fact that Brown is currently getting crushed in Mass ? And considering that the state already HAS their own version of Obamacare, I don't see Mass voters as seeing this race through that issue at all. Brown winning in Mass is one of those "I'll eat my hat" outcomes.

9 There are just some cities/states that will remain leftist strongholds forever. That is until they lose their entire tax base through taxation by confiscation.

10 Don't count Brown out.  Don't believe the polls.  This is winnable.  Believe.

11 >>>We discussed this in the prior thread, and for whatever reason it doesn't seem to faze them one bit. If your doctor tells you you need a leg amputated or you will die, your will argue with him and tell him to cure your leg without amputating it and without your risking death. Yeah, it doesn't faze them, because they continue to live in a dream world, a pocket universe, sustained by hope and the coddling of liberal media slant. They want to continue to believe 1) it's really super-popular and 2) even if it's not everyone will just love it as they wait three years for benefits and in the meantime premiums go up in cost and health care is rationed. They are between a rock and a hard place. They have no good option.

12 as I've so sagely said, the fact that 2010 looks sooo bad for Democrats helps speed obamacare along, perversely, as there's little guarantee iffy seats can be kept even if they do vote against it. So they're liberated to be as liberal as they want to be.

13 Yeah, it doesn't faze them, because they continue to live in a dream world, a pocket universe, sustained by hope and the coddling of liberal media slant.

Ace, I just have a hard time believing that they don't have some semblance of forward intel that is telling them they are in big trouble. They display an air of almost invincibility, and I'm more than curious as to the real reason why that is.

14 what if they're already in such trouble they're going to lose anyway and their only hope is to create so much crushing debt the incoming Congress will also be wiped out by it and thus they'll be ushered back in 4-8 years later?

15 that's really an off the cuff conspiracy theory, trying to explain their behavior. i put no stock in all that. but they probably do realize 2010 is going to be a disaster either way, so might as well do as much damage on their way out as possible.

16 Hope you are right. A few hundred billion dollars can buy a lot of things/people.

17 13
Yeah, its not like this is some wild hair they just came up with.  This ("health care reform") has been pushed from the beginning and is going forward despite the lack of support for it.

18 They're betting that the passage of the healthcare legislation will cement a new entitlement bulwark that will offset losses for the next couple of election cycles, gambling that an incoming Congress will lack the dedication to repeal it and depending on the "third rail" effect that surrounds entitlements like Medicare and Social Security. In other words, they're gambling that will will create, in the long run, a permanent Dem majority.

19

TN- I want to believe, really do.  It's just that Brown will have to win by 10% at least for Dem's not to steal it.  Anything closer and they will just do what they have done all along, use the recount to find as many ballots as they need.

May God help us, and help Scott Brown win!

20 yeah, that, and generally creating new facts on teh ground. like Reagan's tax cuts, which shaped the next 20+ years. They existed, they were powerful, they were popular, they shaped the parameters of what was and was not politically possilble. with this massive new entitlement they want to do a reverse reagan, make sure taxes NEED to go up, and maybe the GOP will itself be forced to jack up taxes to stave off default and disaster.

21 but they probably do realize 2010 is going to be a disaster either way, so might as well do as much damage on their way out as possible.

Ok, I'll buy into that, but it still doesn't make sense. I use the term 'incrementalism' here often, and it's how the leftist/statists have made such significant inroads. One chunk of real estate at a time. This bull in a china shop mentality baffles me. Why abandon a proven strategy?

22 Why abandon a proven strategy?

Because they'll never have the opportunity to do this much, this quickly for a long time and they're banking on it being damn well near impossible to reverse.

23 I don't understand the Democrats thinking here. A lot of them are going to lose if they vote for the bill.  If they vote against the bill, their chances for re-election go up. Only a representative in a very safe seat should vote for this bill. I don't get it.

24 >>>If they vote against the bill, their chances for re-election go up. Well, maybe, now the left is turning aginst the bill too. but before that, they faced either alienating their base or alienating the swing vote. Both were losing strategies.

25 One chunk of real estate at a time. This bull in a china shop mentality baffles me. Why abandon a proven strategy?
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 23, 2009 02:38 AM

Because the nutroots are a very impatient bunch raised on the "I want it NOW" entitlement mentality.

The problem the far left has with Obama isn't that he's not communist enough for them, it's that he's parceling out the toys one at a time instead of dumping the whole bag of toys on their lap before Christmas.

26 On the other side of the coin, "shock and awe" could well come back to haunt them. Health care, for example has obviously not been thought through to its end-game by these leftists. I think that if it passes and is instituted, we will witness the swift collapse of of any semblance of competent medical care in this country. Patience is sadly no longer an American virtue, for the most part. There will be hell to pay when the system has it's inevitable epic fail.

27 plus these people believe in socialism. they think it works. they think it creates happy societies. So the other thing they're thinking is that the public will love it, once it's forced on them, like, you know, how rapists think maybe. I don't know if they really believe that but that's their only hope of success at this point, really. as ludicrous as that "plan" sounds, what else do they have?

28 They also could be banking on the majority of the population being already so ignorant they know they'll forget come November. It's a long way from November and Americans aren't known for their long memories. And that's the part of the population that's actually paying attention. I suppose it really does all bank on the economy. If it miraculously recovers next year (and I don't think it will, not with the administrations current hostility towards wealth gain) the Dems and Lefties will be safe. If it tanks even harder than it did this year, then it will probably see them out of DC.

29 Uh, oh. I think I took 2 Ambien instead of one this evening. I'll be sawing logs well into the mid-morning hours. Good thing I don't have to be with a client until 1:00. Whew.

30 fold up tents: nutroots hates them, stays home, they lose press on: moderates may punish in short-term but will learn to love socialism

31 although... really they are blinded at the moment. they are giving a bunch of stuff to a bloc they have sealed up and taking it away from a bloc they don't (middle class, seniors). I don't know. Seems... insane, now that I think about it.

32

O/T

Who broke the internets?

33 The problem for the dems is that the taxes are up front, benefits later, as you mentioned. This isn't going to help the economy. It's hard for me to imagine unemployment under 9% next year.

34 So the other thing they're thinking is that the public will love it, once it's forced on them, like, you know, how rapists think maybe.

Maybe they truly are doing a hybridization of the British model. Expect some mumbling and groaning for a while, until the citizens finally succumb to Stockholm Syndrome. This is the best there is, and there ain't no more down the pike. Read it and weep.

35 Are they really taking the stay alive until 2012 and they are safe attitude? That makes me wonder what they think they have in store for later. Power never walks away from power.

36 The problem for the dems is that the taxes are up front, benefits later, as you mentioned. Rush mentioned that today. He said with Hillarycare, they did it in reverse: benefits upfront, taxes later. It seems suicidal to do it the way they are now. Of course, California's response to a broke treasury was to hike taxes so the consistency is there.

37

Could be they know something we don't.

38 It's hard for me to believe that a lot of 1st time congressmen want to be one-termers. Are they being duped by their leadership or are they delusional?

39 The thing that makes this odd is that usually these measures get passed by offering lots of sops to the middle class, so that the middle class is fooled into thinking they got something out of the deal. They didn't, of course. They sent in say $3000 in social safety net taxes and got back $2200 in social safety net benefits. And Dems say, "look at what we did for you." This is sort of frigging insane is that there really is no benefit at all to the middle class. it's all costs, no benefits. Undoing this might not be as hard as with previous programs for this reason.

40 Seriously...why is the print on all the posts so tiny now?

41 37

Could be they know something we don't.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 23, 2009 02:59 AM (dQdrY)

I think they think they can just keep the media BS game going forever, and that will save them. I think that's their plan. If they are thinking bolder, them I'm going to start checking out the local John Birch Society chapter.

42 Rush mentioned that today. He said with Hillarycare, they did it in reverse: benefits upfront, taxes later. It seems suicidal to do it the way they are now.

It may be. That no-mans-land spanning from taxation to implementation just may provide a fertile stretch of time where the forces against this evil may regroup. The taxes will signify the winter of our discontent, followed by the outrage that ensues when sub-standard health care is there to meet the masses at the infirmary doorstep.

43 Emily, maybe someone had some htlm tag that didn't close... I don't know, my browser closes these tags automatically. I have added some closing tags to maybe end the problem.

44 When is the alleged vote on raising the debt ceiling? Drudge has it on Christmas Eve. I thought Ace said it was on Jan 20.

45 Wow, those 2 Ambien (doctor prescribed, of course) have lightened my mood a tad, if ya know what I mean.

46 Where the hell is Michael Steele?  He is supposed to be the chair of the RNC, and there is a very important senatorial election in MA, and I'm wondering where he is.  Other than speaking at other places and drawing in the fees.

Seriously, if this is a fight worth engaging in, why isn't our RNC Chair out there fighting it too?

I'm sick and damned tired of the Republican big wigs sitting back and sipping their tea while the rest of us are out there giving and making calls and knocking on doors. 

47

I think they think they can just keep the media BS game going forever, and that will save them. I think that's their plan.

They can read polls as well as we can. They are open in their bribe taking. They are not afraid.

48 It's like accusing the Benny Hill Show of "having too much ass. yackitty sax "

49 Uh, oh. I think I took 2 Ambien instead of one this evening. I'll be sawing logs well into the mid-morning hours--Soap That isn't sleep you are going to enjoy my friend. Ask Tiger about the best sex evah on Ambien!

50

Emily,

maybe someone had some htlm tag that didn't close... I don't know, my browser closes these tags automatically.

I have added some closing tags to maybe end the problem.

It's still there. This post and PA's are fine. It starts at the ONT, and then extends to all the posts below that.

51 I'm sick and damned tired of the Republican big wigs sitting back and sipping their tea while the rest of us are out there giving and making calls and knocking on doors.

Yep, because I was active in the last election, every f'n political telemarketer on the right is after me like I actually had unlimited time and money. They saw it work once, and they're milking the same cows again. They're not at all fond of dirtying their nicely manicured paws.  

52 32

O/T

Who broke the internets?

Since I invented it, I can break it any time I want.

53 That isn't sleep you are going to enjoy my friend. Ask Tiger about the best sex evah on Ambien!

I don't get that one at all. Hasn't sharpened the ol' pencil here on bit. Never really was a problem to begin with, but the Ambs just don't seem to work that way with me. Oh. well.

54 My wife gets really pretty envelopes from the RNC. Straight to the trash.

55 My wife gets really pretty envelopes from the RNC. Straight to the trash.

That's where mine go. I told them a while back that I'll go grass roots on candidates of my choice, but no more of my cash going into a political black hole. No mas.

56 Well, the old eyelids are rebelling on ol' Soap. G'nite, y'all.

57 emily, I added some more tag closers in that thread, does it look okay now?

58 I wonder if the Democrats are banking on the American people being stupid enough to think that the Republicans are still in charge.  Haven't they already gotten a lot of mileage out of that? 

Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

59

emily, I added some more tag closers in that thread, does it look okay now?

no, it's the same.

60 The font is still small in IE. It is legible. PA's thread is all center justified if that makes a difference.

61 Better now.

62

The font is still small in IE. It is legible. PA's thread is all center justified if that makes a difference.

Really? I have to get pretty close to the screen to read it. Guess I need to head to the ophthamologist again...

63

Oh, yeah, it's back to normal now. Thanks ace.

64 I am wearing my new reading glasses.

65 PA was using some formatting code that apparently doesn't work for many browsers, or causes unwanted secondary effects.

66 thanks RLF, that alerted me to pa's post. I'll write him to tell him to use a differnet code.

67 Glad to help.

68

How many of the 60 yea votes were cast by senators who should be facing ethics charges?

I know that Sen. Baucus should be facing them...

69 Maybe it is as simple as the Alinsky people wanting a communist US, but being willing to settle for a broken US. They will still be great heroes of the communist world either way.

70 plus these people believe in socialism. they think it works. they think it creates happy societies.

No. Not that last part.

Socialism isn't made to "work." It's made to be like this, but more so. See Europe.

A purposely and purposefully, structurally fractured, perpetually mutually aggrieved, distrustful and hateful citizenry can only pseudo-revolt and retreat into muttering helplessness, over and over again.

Well, there's one other thing it can do. It hasn't happened for a while. But we're not special.

71 Im beginning to wonder if it's all purposeful, acting more and more radically while simultaneously calling people who disagree nazi s, bigots and the like, further enraging them to a potential point of action. I really don't like conspiracy theories but it makes little sense. They're not that stupid are they?

72 Mr. Marcoe in post 22 (and by extension, Mark Steyn) already has it nailed.  It's the simple calculus that once this program is in place, it'll be extraordinarily difficult to get rid of.  So, the Dems are willing to take a hit in the shorter term to advance their longer term goals.

73 ABA, the problem with that is the bennies don't kick in for years, just the taxes. Ain't no one who likes having their pocket picked by Uncle Sam...

74 It's simple; they will use the 500 billion dollars they in the slush-fund they have not spent in the 'stimulus' and spend it on the 2010 election cycle. That was always the idea.

75 ...or something like that (must not drink and type

76 If they view this as their final assault to take the hill, the Dems won't hold back. If they believe their own press, America will be lifting these heroes to its shoulders. Here's a tip: if a torchlight parade is headed your way, mind the pitchforks.

77 Sorry Ace, can't put too much stock in that outcome. This bill is going to pass.

78 Wait a minute. From Kristol's page:

Brown and Coakley debated last night, and they clashed on the health care bill. But so far as I can tell, Brown didnÂ’t emphasize that by electing him, the voters of Massachusetts have a chance to save the country from Obamacare. What if there were a massive independent expenditure that made that point?

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Why isn't Brown making the point? And what type of "massive independent expenditure" is Kristol talking about? Some sort of ad-hoc ad campaign? Okay, but has anyone started it? Why are we sending money to Brown when he's not making our point?

79 Did I miss the discussion around here of how the pro-life Congresstards are going to be dispensed with? I thought they were our last, best thread of hope. Have we all assumed that the bill that comes out of reconciliation will exclude abortion from all taxpayer-funded "health" "care" so they'll support it?

80 There are a number of outfits here that manufacture medical devices. The medical industry is pretty big here, in fact. Brown could easily position himself to be a champion for the local economy.

81 Well well well.

Teresa Heinz Kerry says she is being treated for breast cancer discovered through a mammogram and wants younger women to keep undergoing the tests annually despite a federal panelÂ’s recent recommendation to reduce their frequency.

82 Disintermediation. It now means that we don't trust the party to spend our money wisely and we can send it directly to a candidate we support.

83 Even if we don't trust the RNC, I bet Michael Steele could get the funds to hold a joint presser with Scott Brown via teleconference.

84

Listening to talk radio yesterday, there seemed to be a rumbling among callers talking about not sending their taxes to Washington.  Small businesses not paying theirs, states putting the state's people's money in an escrow account and not sending it to Washington.  Invividuals saying they cannnot put us all in jail.  Basically they were calling on voluntary tax evasion and starving the Fed.

85

Turnout will be key for Brown.  He could use the $$ to help get his message out.  As much as the Boston Globe would like everyone to believe that Coakley has the election wrapped up, it is much closer than that.

I have seen Brown signs popping up in a lot of unlikely places.  And for every 5 Brown signs I see, there is only 1 for Coakley.

Coakley, our inept, Canadian sounding AG is a hack and a terrible prosecutor.  It was recently discovered that while she was an assistant D.A. she broomed a case that involved a pedophile priest molesting a child.  That same priest, Father John Geoghan, then molested another young boy and was sent to prison.  She blew it on the Big Dig prosecutions and more recently blew it at the Supreme Court in the Melendez-Diaz v. Massachusetts.

Check her out. She's a terrible speaker, no charisma, arrogant, hack.  Brown could beat her.

86 they cannnot put us all in jail. Basically they were calling on voluntary tax evasion and starving the Fed. They can't jail everyone, but that isn't how tyranny works. How will you feel when they grab your tax evading neighbor in the dead of night? If it plays out that way, they will come for the middle class first. A better way is to simply abstain from taxable activity. New Hampshire retail does quite well along the Massachusetts border by offering lower or no taxes on many items.

87
hahaha, loppy!

Coakley sounds like she's a 'yooper' from Michigan's Upper Peninsula. She's such a dim bulb, too. Coakley almost makes Jean Sheeheeen look intelligent.

88
They're not gonna put anyone in jail. This is America, not Russia.

In America, the government has much better ways to coerce and punish their taxpayers. The government will garnish your wages,  put liens on your property, or make it so you can't renew your driver's license, cutoff your kid's financial aid, etc.

Our government has many many ways to make people pay fines and taxes.

89 If she gets elected, I suspect her biggest achievement will be making John Kerry look smart & competent. Sometimes when you choose the right line, you get out of the grocery store sooner. Martha chose the express lane to the AG office.

90 It's like accusing the Benny Hill Show of "having too much ass."

hehehe, too much ass!   The Senate, asses. Funny.

91

Ben Nelson, in a show of hubris, condescension and arrogance, said he would "give back" the bribe he took if the governor of NE said he should.

Well, Gov. David Heineman has gone on record demanding that Nelson should do just that, calling Nelson an embarrassment.

Well, Benny...what the fuck?

92 yeah send lots of money to MA I am sure the GOP has EXCELLENT chances there

93

92 yeah send lots of money to MA I am sure the GOP has EXCELLENT chances there

Holy Shit...I'm set for life. I just got an email from a Nigerian prince who said he has millions of dollars he's trying to get out of the country...and that he'll give me 25% if he could transfer it to my bank account.

I'm sending him my account # right now..,,

...see ya suckers

94 I am sure the GOP has EXCELLENT chances there How sick are we of the ways the donks are effing things up? We may have reached the tipping point... ...but probably not. Let's just embrace the socialism. It's easier to go quietly.

95

<blockquote>See, the problem right there is that obstruction is popular at the moment.

It's like accusing the Benny Hill Show of "having too much ass."</blockquote>

 

Those are both features, not bugs. Especially the too much ass on Benny Hill's show. Loved it.

 

Subsunk

96 || or have actual prominent Republican types come to the state to campaign for the very telegenic State Sen. Scott Brown.

|| And who exactly would that be right now?

Honest question: has Romney campaigned for Brown -- as in public rallies and media appearances, not just invisible fundraisers?I don't think you could bring Palin to MA, simply because I think that she becomes too much of the storyand the Boston press which is patently insane already would utterly freak out ("Evil Palin Goes After Kennedy Seat!!") , and I think that Brown gets forgotten. Here's an out-of-the-box thought: what about Laura Bush? Giuliani would also work well.

97 The voters here in MA LOVE obama.  They LOVE the healthcare bill.  They LOVE high taxes.  They truly believe in big government, it will tend to all their needs.  Teachers unions not teaching kids to read, write or do arithmetic, but all about homosexuality, abortion, VERY young sex....they love it.  They LOVED the Big Dig that went on for ever, cost way too much and filled the coffers of our politicians....loved it.  I'm not kidding, they truly love all this stuff, they are not going to vote Brown in.  The only reason they vote republican governors in is because the state legislature (dem controlled)does not allow the republican governor to DO anything, but when his term is over and you know what hits the fan, they blame it on him and the idiots in MA go along with it.

98 Haven't thought of Benny Hill in years. But the accusation would be false, anyway.  It was "too little".

99 It depends on whose ass you're talking about: Benny's or the Hill's Angels.

Looks mischievously at the audience as "Yakety Sax" begins to play.

100 This country is a computer that has been running Windows for over 200 years.

The CPU is bogged down, hard drive is full of BS.  We got dozens of unwanted applications, viruses, and toolbars that refuse to uninstall.

FORMAT C:
REINSTALL CONSTITUTION 1.0

101

What we ought to do, is kick Minnesota out of the Union, for what they've done to us. All of this would never have been possible, had not that state perpetrated the greatest fraud and gravest insult to the rest of the nation by electing Al Franken, a vile, vile man and transparent charlatan, to the US Senate. As the cretins who populate that state stood by with their dicks in their hands watching Franken steal their election, they made a mockery of constitutional democracy and foisted high crimes upon the sister states. This was no dereliction of duty, mark my words, this was a criminal insult of the highest order to the rest of the nation. This is not a game, this is not romper room, and this was a bridge too far to give that man the tipping point of political power to wreak havoc on the lives of the rest of us.

If you meet anyone from the State of Minnesota, you should turn your back to him. Buy no product from that state, conduct no business with any company based in that state, pay to God for thanks at the whopping belt of snow he's covering that state with.

102 And fuck Massachusetts, too.

103 from link...

"Now, of course the Democrat Martha Coakley is the overwhelming favorite. But someone might want to commission a poll in Massachusetts to see what might happen if the Senate race could be made a referendum on Obamacare. Brown and Coakley debated last night, and they clashed on the health care bill. But so far as I can tell, Brown didnÂ’t emphasize that by electing him, the voters of Massachusetts have a chance to save the country from Obamacare. What if there were a massive independent expenditure that made that point? I bet Obamacare isnÂ’t popular even in Massachusetts. And it would be novelistically satisfying if the Democrats lost Ted KennedyÂ’s seat on the issue of government-run health care, thereby dooming...government-run health care."

What do we have to lose?  Let's Roll.

104 R_Paulson: having Romney, Laura Bush, or Guiliani appear may increase the turnout - the best thing going for Brown is if everyone forgets about this election and his supports can sneak it thru.

105 Why isn't Brown making the point? And what type of "massive independent expenditure" is Kristol talking about? Some sort of ad-hoc ad campaign? Okay, but has anyone started it? Why are we sending money to Brown when he's not making our point?

Posted by: arhooley at December 23, 2009 05:51 AM (er1oz)

I'm not sure that the best way to win over MA voters it to attack Obamacare.

Probably a better line of attack is that since MA is a one party state, their representatives at all levels are hacks/crooks and an embarrassment. MA does really function like a banana republic. And if you talk to MA voters, a majority do recognize that. Last I checked the Governor of MA, mini-Obama, was at something like a 19% approval rate.

But then yes, they still go vote for the Democrat crook over the opposition. One would presume they will get tired of this game after eventually.

106 Democrats have sold this bill as a miracle-worker; when people see first-hand how pernicious health-care legislation will be, abstract concerns will become concrete. That will magnify the unhappiness of the polity.

Actually, this is an interesting point. The Democrats have been able to argue that there are no drawbacks or tradeoffs with their policies for years. In the case of health care they've argued that it will

1) Increase the number of people with health care
2) Decrease the amount the populace pays for heath care
3) Decrease the amount the government pays for health care
4) Provide better quality health care for everyone

Out of these, only 1 is really possible and that is the one that the voters care least about. So if Obamacare is at roughly 60% opposition now, where will it be when the people willing to give it a chance see 2-4 are lies? I presume that the 20% of the electorate that are hard left will support any move to socialism, but could we see 80% opposition to Obamacare by Nov 2010?

107 My crotchety father sent the want ads to our Rep., Dan Lipinski in Illinois. I think he wanted to send a severed horses head at first.

108

@13 & 14 - Two words: " Nuclear Iran "

All that Obama and the dims need to do is support Israel if/when it attacks Iran.  Obama's numbers will soar back into the 60's.  They know this.  That is why they don't seem to give a crap now.

@106 - I think you're right...the democrats are ignoring this, hoping that Coakley can hold on.  And so far the republicans (who certainly HAVE to know about this potential) are gambling that Brown has better chances with a low profile, low voter turnout upset win. 

 

So no one is talking about it.

 

 

109 I have lived in Mass most of my adult life (I am 74). Based on my experience with the voters in this state Osama Bin Laden would win an election in Mass if he ran as a Democrat.  Brown stands no chance whatsoever. End of story.

110

See, the problem right there is that obstruction is popular at the moment.

It's like accusing the Benny Hill Show of "having too much ass."

LMAO, LMAO

111 All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.

This is why Scott Brown can win: precisely BECAUSE his opponents believe it to be impossible.

112 Here in Ma we have elected many Republican Governors. It is all about independent turnout because no matter what the media says more than 1/2 the voters in MA are unenrolled not D's or R's. Polling here shows just what it has shown nationwide people don't like Obama he is polling around 50% now and they don't like Obamacare. They don't like higher taxes and they want jobs.

Scott Brown could win. It is all about turnout. I am going to send him 50 bucks. I hope all you  morons will think about it to especially those who sent Joe Wilson money for just called Obama a liar.

brownforussenate.com

113 Lived in MA for 50 years. Take a miracle to have those dumbasses put an R on Kennedy's barstool. 2010 - Year of the Impossible

114 It's like accusing the Benny Hill Show of "having too much ass."

Well, there's a song stuck in my head for the rest of the day.

115 I'm sick and damned tired of the Republican big wigs sitting back and sipping their tea while the rest of us are out there giving and making calls and knocking on doors.

Posted by: Intrepid at December 23, 2009 03:12 AM (92zkk)

I completely understand and agree.  It's frustrating.  Then you have RNC Chair Michael Steele making the most pedestrian arguments on various talk shows when he attempts to attack the Democrats and supposedly defends the Republican point of view.  He definitely needs to go.

I wish there were legitimate options in elections for conservatives but unfortunately we either support the GOP or end up helping the Democrats/Left, like happened in 2008 when many conservatives couldn't bring themselves to vote for McCain.  I completely understand the sentiment but, as we feared, the alternative was actually substantially worse, especially in regards to government spending and projecting American strength to our enemies.

116 Yep, because I was active in the last election, every f'n political telemarketer on the right is after me like I actually had unlimited time and money. They saw it work once, and they're milking the same cows again. They're not at all fond of dirtying their nicely manicured paws.  

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 23, 2009 03:17 AM (554T5)

Ditto.  Unlike the Democrats, Steele and others running the GOP's political operations (as well as most of the GOP congressional leadership) are simply unable to think long term and strategically.  Instead, they think short term and tactically.  Mark Steyn wrote about this the other day and I couldn't agree more.  They need to start thinking more like they did in 1994 when they had a longer term plan for their actions if they gained control of Congress, not just a plan for winning control of Congress, which seems to be the lazy approach of the GOP now.  Instead of simply pounding the Democrats' policies and actions, they also need to start communicating what actions they will take if they regain control of Congress, as well as why they will take them and how this approach is better for the country.

117

Your straw is so big and fat, Santa.

118 I just signed up to volunteer for the campaign. If they don't get back to me I'll start calling their local office.

119 Too much ass?  Possible.  Too much tittie?  Never.

120 A thing non-MA posters here should note is often times on ballots the Dems run unopposed, or against Green/Rainbow/Indepentant canidates. There is no GOP organization in the majority of the state at all.

121 Let's not forget the skanks from Maine.

122 "Too much ass?  Possible."

YOU LIE!

123

Come on folks, the taxes up front of the goodies is a feature, not a bug. And they have been hinting of their brilliant plan for a few weeks now saying after the bill passes they will focus on cutting the defecit. 

1) Treasury starts flooding with the new taxes, but none paid out for 4 years.

2) Media lickspittles proclaim every hour on the hour that the brave B+arack has slain the wicked defecit.

3) B+arack wins in 2012.

124 ABA, the problem with that is the bennies don't kick in for years, just the taxes. Ain't no one who likes having their pocket picked by Uncle Sam...

Not seeing how this speaks against the point raised.  It'd still take a Herculean effort to get enough votes to rescind, simply by the mathematics involved.

To put it simply, when's the last time you saw *any* bad government program permanently repealed?

125 It's like accusing the Benny Hill Show of "having too much ass."

On a more humorous note, it reminds me of Benny in one of his skits:

"Scoot over dear, you're sitting on my car keys..."

126 Thanks. Now every time I see Harry Reid I will hear the Benny Hill theme music and wish I could hit him in the face with a pie, or a brick . . .

127 I very much doubt it, but.....

Kopechne's Revenge would be beautiful.

128

The amusing thing here is that Reid's big weapon is to accuse Republicans of "obstructionism." - Ace

I fail to see the humor. There is nothing about this outage that is amusing.

Do you find humor in the choice of ornaments on Obama's Christmas Tree, too?

 

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