1 You'll just love our new law, accessorized with handcuffs.

2 Blue Dog my ass. Garden variety fascist. Payback is going to be one very big bitch.

3 I think the public "option" is optional in the same way we have a voluntary taxation system.

4 It is an option, but if you choose not to take it you opt to go to jail. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm kinda sounds like making not taking that option illegal, which isn't an "option" at all it is criminalizing it.

5 I got an option for you. Give me your car keys or I will shoot you.

6 dogs get blue when their balls are in a grip

/Michael Vick Nancy Pelosi

7 These days Democrat = leftist and conservative "Blue Dog" Democrat = liberal.  Throw them all out

8 Cock-assery.

9 Wait, you guys give a shit about people without health insurance all of a sudden? 

What he means is no one with private health insurance is going to be forced to switch to the public option.  Obviously.

10 Just came across this seems pretty cool.

http://visiblevote.us/windowsinfo.php

11 2 things...he'll probably say, you can buy private insurance, if you prefer.  That's what I mean by you're not forced to go on the public option.

Second, how long before Congress does sex to the insurance companies again with some sort of windfall tax on all the new revenues they are gaining from the new pool of insurance purchasers?  I say before the ink is dry on the initial legislation. 

Third, right now the company penalty imposed by the health care committee IRS is actually cheaper than employers providing insurance.  How long before that number gets much closer to 50/50 or even that it would be cheaper for companies to provide it, but the administration headaches of all the new bureaucracy will still be plenty of motivation to roll all their employees into the public plan?  So, the government raises taxes and still creates more dependents of the nanny state.  Win/win.

12 The left is entirely made up of insane, slobbering idiots that have absolutely no connection with the true state of the world. You could better reason with a one cell organism than with these fools.

13

And what he means is also bullshit seattle,

Obviously.

14 Sorry, but the Blue Dogs turned out to be nothing but Red Herrings. Not a one of them is worth a crap. The ONLY Democrat that turned out to have a any common sense was good ol' Joementum Lieberman. I've always like Joe even though I knew he was a liberal, because I always felt he was a mature, intelligent person that was SANE. My faith in him has been vindicated.

15 To oppose ObamaCare, a Democrat would have to have some sort of moral compass.  A Democrat, by nature, has none.

16 Silly people. A very high percentage of Cook County residents don't have valid drivers licenses, much less automobile "insurance." Want a crash course on how this is going to play out, if enacted? Look no farther than the laws "created" by the genius politicians of Crook County, Illinois.

17 Bluedogs and Unicorns: compare and contrast.

18 11 2 things...he'll probably say, you can buy private insurance, if you prefer.  That's what I mean by you're not forced to go on the public option.

Here's the thing though. As soon as the insurance company changes your policy at all, from what I understand, you are then somehow forced to the public option. So eventually, everyone, even those with great company policies, will end up on the public option. Because policies change all the time.

Plus... it will be cheaper for companies to drop insurance and pay the fines rather than pay for private insurance.

Even if they do stay with private policies... see above. Everyone will eventually fed into the giant meat grinder that is Obamacare.

So get sick sooner rather than later.

19

V kicks ass.

Anybody else watching it?

20 Hey, this bill is for me, remember? And all the great things I did to lead this country down the path of utter destruction!

21 No matter what sub-classifications you look for, at this time there is no such thing as a worthwhile Democrat.  Let's not kid ourselves that some mythical unicorn-jackass exists.

22

HOLY SHIT!

Is this TV?

Are you joshing me? Did I get spiked some acid and just halucinate that?

23 Blue Dog = Cur Dog

Ain't worth feeding such a cowardly animal.

spit

24 Sorry, but the Blue Dogs turned out to be nothing but Red Herrings.

Sort of like the Hillary Dems who were supposed to go rogue on the party. What was that tag they were given? I've forgotten.

25 burberry scarf | CD Keys

26 yo jason what up?

27

Sort of like the Hillary Dems who were supposed to go rogue on the party. What was that tag they were given? I've forgotten.

Angry lesbian feminists.

28 You GONNA DO SEX TO ME ....AGAIN??????

29 9 Wait, you guys give a shit about people without health insurance all of a sudden? 
Posted by: seattle slough at November 24, 2009 08:25 PM (JRGA6)

Absolutely not.

30 Sigh.

I miss the old days when Lace Wigs were here.

Not like CD Keys. They just don't inspire the same confidence...

31
Lipinski is my congressman. He isn't a blue dog. He's a tool of the Illinois Democratic/Cook County organization. I've never heard anyone around here (Cook County) refer to him as a blue dog. No one. Other names are used: scumbag, asshole, jerkoff, etc.

32

Okay, here's anotherr one for you.  The Democrats' plan makes it illegal to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions.

So I start the world's crappiest insurance company that charges way to much for next to no covereage at all, but priced cheaper than the other companies (because I don't really cover much at all).  How many customers do I get?

About 300 million, because whenever one of my customers gets sick they switch over to a real plan, having not paid those companies a prior dime.

I get rich, all the real insurance companies go bankrupt, and everyrone is dumped onto the public plan.

 

33 24 Sorry, but the Blue Dogs turned out to be nothing but Red Herrings. Sort of like the Hillary Dems who were supposed to go rogue on the party. What was that tag they were given? I've forgotten. Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 24, 2009 08:44 PM (554T5) PUMAS. Turned out they were more like PUTAS, IYKWIMAIKTYD

34 This pissant little puke took over Daddy's district. Be a shame if something should happen to that nice little district you have there, junior.

35 "Wait, you guys give a shit about people without health insurance all of a sudden?" Nah. Fuck 'em.

36 The Republicans should run on a platform of undoing everything these commie whores have pushed through since 2006.

37 The Republicans should run on a platform of undoing everything these commie whores have pushed through since 2006.

When they win the super majority next year the first thing they need to do is arrest key leftists in the MSM (NYT. MSNBC, CNN, CEO of GS, GE, AIG) and try them immediately for sedition and treason. Period.

38 Heck, I'm still waiting for the outcry from the people previously up in arms over Dick Cheney and Haliburton in light of this new cooking the climate books scandal.  A lot of legislation and regulations are either in place or are in the works to be put in place, all in the name of bad science and strangely not a god damn peep from those who previously got all lathered up over ties between Cheney and Haliburton.  Do people not realize that they are about to pay through the nose for bad science???  If people thought the war in Iraq was bad due to bad intel, I would think that this is worse since it will crush our economy.  Ask Spain.  Gore is up to his eyeballs in this as are most of the democrats.  Same with health care.  Nothing but crickets.

39 Yeah, I get to keep my insurance, as long as it does not change in any manner, then I get slob care. And even while I have my own insurance, I get to pay for yours. Such a great deal. I can hardly wait.

40 Ol' Limpinsky is going to enjoy 'funemployment'.  Coming to a Democrat near you in 2010.

41 The Republicans should run on a platform of undoing everything these commie whores have pushed through since 1906!

42 "...no one with private health insurance is going to be forced to switch to the public option."

Of course, after the government runs all the health care insurance companies out of business, the tune will be "different".  Won't it?

And don't give me the bullshit that this isn't true.  Your own Obamassiah has said that it will take 10-20 years to accomplish this.

Go drink your Kool Aid.

43 Please, these "Blue Dog" dems always curl up at their master's feet at the end of the day.

44

O/T:

I'm going to bed so here's my contribution, an obituary worth reading:

Soldier Who Led Last Bayonet Charge Dies

Retired Army Col. Lewis L. Millett, who received the Medal of Honor during the Korean War for leading what reportedly was the last major American bayonet charge, died Nov 14.

Millett, 88, died in Loma Linda, Calif., after serving for more than 15 years as the honorary colonel of the 27th Infantry Regiment Association.

Millet received the Medal of Honor for his actions Feb. 7, 1951. He led the 25th Infantry DivisionÂ’s Company E, 27th Infantry, in a bayonet charge up Hill 180 near Soam-Ni, Korea. A captain at the time, Millet was leading his company in an attack against a strongly held position when he noticed that a platoon was pinned down by small-arms, automatic, and antitank fire.

Millett placed himself at the head of two other platoons, ordered fixed bayonets, and led an assault up the fire-swept hill. In the fierce charge, Millett bayoneted two enemy soldiers and continued on, throwing grenades, clubbing and bayoneting the enemy, while urging his men forward by shouting encouragement, according to his Medal of Honor citation.

"Despite vicious opposing fire, the whirlwind hand-to-hand assault carried to the crest of the hill," the citation states. "His dauntless leadership and personal courage so inspired his men that they stormed into the hostile position and used their bayonets with such lethal effect that the enemy fled in wild disorder."

Millett was wounded by grenade fragments during the attack, but he refused evacuation until the objective was firmly secured. He recovered, and attended Ranger School after the war.

In the 1960s, he ran the 101st Airborne Division Recondo School for reconnaissance and commando training at Fort Campbell, Ky. He then served in a number of special operations advisory assignments in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War. He founded the Royal Thai Army Ranger School with help of the 46th Special Forces Company. This unit reportedly is the only one in the U.S. Army to simultaneously be designated as both Ranger and Special Forces.

Millet retired from the Army in 1973.
---------------

There's more at the linked article

And on top of all of that, he had a mustache that John Bolton would die for.

45 @44, I remember reading an article about him in Military History magazine. He actually trained his troops for a bayonet charge and I think they named a training course after him. The Old Breed.

46 I thought there was a bayonet charge in Vietnam. It was in the movie "We Were Soldiers...." Mel Gibson directed and starred in it. Supposedly based on a true story.

47

Go drink your Kool Aid. juicebox

FIFY

48 46 I guess the charge in Korea was a company sized charge.There were smaller charges no doubt in Vietnam.

49
I can't help but think Colonel Millet would be brought up on charges for that in the current political climate.

50 I have never seen an American with a fixed bayonet in Iraq or Afghanistan.Not even during the house to house in Fallujah.I know the Brits still fix bayonets because a Brit was just decorated for sticking a Taliban.

51

College is all of his experience.  College and more college, then more college then teaching at college.  Northwest, Stanford and Duke.

Daddy was Congresssman.

Elitist ass hat bitch.

And Roman Catholic Pro-Abortion.

This shit doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out.

52

Lipinski is my congressman. He isn't a blue dog. He's a tool of the Illinois Democratic/Cook County organization. I've never heard anyone around here (Cook County) refer to him as a blue dog. No one

Ummm.... yeah.

Seriously people call him a blue dog?

Who? I've never heard such a thing.

People from Idaho?

This ain't downstate.... it's Chicago. He's a machine pol.

53 Look at the shiny object!

This entire thing is unconstitutional, and they maneuver us into debating a fine.  How about the dems explain to me how this whole thing jibes with the Constitution of the United States of America?

And the GOP leadership?
Whores bitching about the price.

54

I know the Brits still fix bayonets because a Brit was just decorated for sticking a Taliban.

Really? Britain still decorates soldiers who do that?

In Canada, they reprimand and investigate soldiers who shoot the enemy.

In the US, apparently not to be outdone, we outright courtmarshall ones who punch the enemy.

55 "D-IL" says it all, no?  Are there any Americans left in IL?  If so, may I suggest they offer Mr. Lipinski and up close and personal look at the underwater aspects of a commode?

56 He's a Chicago hack.   No balls and even less brains.  He's an expert on Political Science.  That's useful.

57 they will continue to use the auto insurance mandate in example because it's there to be used, if it were not there they couldn't use it.

58 Brits had a bayonet charge in Iraq.

59 there are americans left in Illinois, but we are tightly confined to the grand prairie region of central portion of the state. 

60 When I was in Umm Quasar in 03 I was told by some of the Marines there they afixed bayonets to take over Saddams Palace. Could be shit talking they were marines however.

61 Obamacare = Reparations

62

"What he means is no one with private health insurance is going to be forced to switch to the public option.  Obviously."

Is there a fucktard left on the planet, other than Seattle Slough, who doesn't understand that small companies may find themselves incentivized to drop their own private plans, pay a fine, and let their employees be forced to switch to the public option?  

Or that a person who loses his job will no longer be able to tough it out w/o any coverage until he gets a new job, and be forced to join the public plan?

 

63 He is weak. A legacy Democrat. His father had the seat, and he inherited it. Unfortunately, Ethan Hastert is running against Dem Bill Foster in his father's old district. Hastert is 30, has the name and the connections in a Red district, but may not be the best candidate in a anti-incumbent mood year. Illinois is fluid. Everyone is corrupt on both sides, except a few. Will be interesting this year.

64 You could better reason with a one cell organism than with these fools.

Posted by: rplat at November 24, 2009 08:28 PM (G1ArL)

Sir, I deeply resent that slur and demand that you retract it.

65 I said to myself, "Self!  This guy is a genuine comrade, I says.  Prolly from Chicago, I says."

66 Seattle Slough, who doesn't understand that small companies may find themselves incentivized

What is that strange word you use?  Are you suggesting that people will behave differently if they are placed in different circumstances?  That's crazy talk.

67 Shoey,

And thanks to the U of I and the People's Republic of Urbana even those numbers are shrinking.

68 38 Heck, I'm still waiting for the outcry from the people previously up in arms over Dick Cheney and Haliburton in light of this new cooking the climate books scandal.

What?  I don't see the problem?

69 Ha!  And you thought I was bad!

70

I look forward to one final bayonet charge, to take one final hill.

Capitol Hill

71

#67

sadly, that is true

72

Anyone still think this is just politics as usual?

 

 

 

 

Cuz it ain't.

When this passes, and it most likely will, will the majority of Americans rightfully consider this an Intolerable Act, or will we yet again shrug, and shuffle on as usual?

73

Lipinski is my congressman, and he is not nor has he ever been a blue dog.  With any controversial bill his staff states that he is still considering the bill until he votes the party line, of course. 

He took his father's seat when his father retired early and the only reason he gets elected is because the district is so gerrymandered that the town he's from is completely out-represented by the heavily democratic areas to the East.

74 How is a Blue Dog Democrat different from a RINO? Um, their business cards, that's it.

75 So I was reading in the paper the other day how the Government is considering to stop delivering mail on Saturdays in addition to Sundays.  I wonder how the government is going to save money on health care?

76

A short story with a point.   I attended an April 15 Tea Party on the capital lawn in Madison, WI.   I enjoyed listening to the speakers, reading the signs and T-shirts, listening to the roar of the rather large crowd, and the amiable atmosphere.  When it was over, everyone picked up every single scrap of litter, put it in bags they came with, and left in an orderly fashion, crossing only with the lights and at the corners.  That entire day not one arrest was made, even though the Capital Police were out in force, not suprising considering the history of protests at the Capital. 

During the 75 minute drive home, I turned to my buddy and said, "That was a waste of a perfectly good afternoon."  He seemed baffled and said "huh?"  So I laid it out for him, as I saw it.  (Here I'm gonna stop using quotes, as it was a rather long conversation, so I'll paraphrase best as I can recall).

Remember the civil rights protests of the early 60's?  How did they usually end?  With fire hoses and beatings and jail houses overflowing with protesters.  The reward was the Civil Rights Act of '64, and a few laws, and the enactment of LBJ's Great Society spending binge.  Fear of civil unrest made that happen.

Remember the race riots of 67 and 68?  Inner cities all across America up in flames.  And the result?  More civil rights laws, neighborhoods rebuilt with public money, and more money dedicated to more programs.  Fear of civil unrest made that happen.

Then there were the anti-war protests, and the riot in Chicago at the DNC convention, and the Weather Underground, and the SLA, etc., culminating in the end of the Viet Nam war.

So when the Left makes demands of society, the powers that be listen, and often capitulate.  FEAR OF CIVIL UNREST MAKES THAT HAPPEN.

So I told my buddy that nothing would come of the Tea Party because Power doesn't fear us.  That was more than 6 months ago.  We've had Tea Parties galore, Town Hall meetings, written our congressmen and senators, had near ONE MILLION people in DC on 9/12, and the agenda marches forward.  Each time we tell ourselves, this time they will listen to us.  This time they will understand.  And "they" do.  They understand that we will  show up, make some noise, and politely and respectfully disappear from whence we came.

Sure, maybe a few are a little fearful of losing their jobs, but that's it.  The agenda moves forward.

Because they don't fear us.

 

77 "Blue Dog" Dan Lipinski, D-IL
The "D" is for DUH????

78 PUBLIC OPTION U buy or U go 2 Jail Nice Option roflmmfao

79 Most Americans don't know why we celebrate July 4th. Most have their heads so far up their asses that their speak with their butt cheeks. This will pass and most won't feel an impact for years. Those that run a business or who make over $250,000 are screwed. You will finally see more & more highly paid athletes & stars finally lining up against the left. We might have lost this battle but the socialists will lose the war. The left will continue down this road of disaster until the engine blows. It won't be 2010 or 2012. I don't think enough Americans make the connection between cause & effect. Only until a nuke goes off somewhere and 3 million people are vaporized in an instant will Americans wake-up. (But I don't even know if they will give a shit then?) Maybe once Mom & Dad go missing or little Johnie & Sue get their heads served up on a platter - maybe then? Until then - being a terrorist has it's advantages. After all they get free health care to care for the fat lip.

80 Who calls Lipinski a "blue dog"?  He comes from a long line of Cook County corruptocrats and was installed in office by his Dad as a legacy.  He will do what he's told and his constituents are too stupid to vote him out.  Debbie Halvorsen, my moron, is about the same-she was giggling on WLS when asked by Don Wade about the jail provision. 

81 "Only until a nuke goes off somewhere and 3 million people are vaporized in an instant will Americans wake-up. " "(But I don't even know if they will give a shit then?) " Depends on where it goes boom at. Frisco, Chicago, L.A., who in the hell would care ?