1 Well, it must've been a big firecracker if the Captain heard it all the way up in the flight station.

2
OT(?):  Just bought some beer, booze, and boolits.  And dropped off my laundry.  Didn't buy and firecrackers and pillowcases though.  Still a productive day.

I wonder if the administration thinks people getting blown out of the sky by "a case of firecrackers" somehow makes it ok? 

3 Wasn't someone (Hotair or RedState?) reporting that MSNBC had retracted the story because of the "its just firecrackers" floating around?  It may not have been the WH, but some of its sympathizers certainly wanted the idea that it wasn't really terrorism out there.

4 Don't worry.  You still have more journalistic integrity than AP, NYTimes, WaPo, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and ABC combined. 

Well, that may not be too comforting.

5 Standard AP crap story I read said a passenger described it as sounding like a firecracker.
I am sure that the Obama administration will see this as a crisis that they won't waste.

6 Okay that was Hot Air said Malkin said 'BNONews' said-I don't know who that is and she didn't provide a link.

7 BNO is a private, Dutch news service.

8 methos, could be but I'm still in error, I said 'officials" had said this.

9

A sinister new weapon -  the Bungholor torpedo.

10 Was the delay in informing Obama aspect of the story accurate?

11 I am still wondering how to make a 6 oz tube of tooth paste explode.

Um, C4 and any number of plastic explosives?

12

Is this post meant to counteract the insinuation in the second Dickless Detonator Dude thread that the false firecracker story, used to downplay the incident, was first made by a (Muslim?) BBC hack working the Beeb's Washington beat?

BTW, the earliest Canadian (private) CTV News link I put up about the event also made the firecrackers-only claim. (I think I posted it around 10 p.m.)

13 Okedoke, ace.  I just knew I had heard that somewhere else, too.  Minus the term 'official.' 

14

@14  wat

15 I am still wondering how to make a 6 oz tube of tooth paste explode.

Blow into one end really, really hard?

16
"It sounded like a firecracker in a pillowcase," said Peter Smith, a passenger from the Netherlands.

This is where I read the 'firecracker' thing.

17 >>>Was the delay in informing Obama aspect of the story accurate? Seems to be. Politico reported it too, and even the WaPo's helpful edit still has the timeframe available, though they've made it as difficult as possible for you to figure out the length of the delay. The WaPo's new adjusted number seems -- well, they're confusing me. The plane landed at 11:53 EST and they say Obama was informed between 9 and 9:30 Hawaiian time, which is five hours behind EST, so... seems (if my math is right) they are noting a 2+ to 2.5 + hour delay. Politico sticks with three.

18 I think you have successfully cleared the Fake but Accurate standard however.

19 18
"It sounded like a firecracker in a pillowcase," said Peter Smith, a passenger from the Netherlands.

Posted by: Dang Straights at December 26, 2009 03:05 PM (YbMPV)   ...because most of the blast was absorbed by his sack.

20 Fuck it Ace. If you can't get your stories right, I'll go somewhere else and get my free news that other people work to give me, while I bitch and complain about it, while donating zero dollars. That might straighten your shit out, pal.

21 A 26 word apology? What the hell is wrong with you today?

22

9-11= fireworks accident

23

Because you tried Ace,......................B+

24 I hate to be the only bigot here, but every passenger they seemed to interview had a name that sounded like they should be on the watch list?

25 You didn't toss a careless question. I asked the same thing. In fact, I believe I even posted it on this blog comments last night. I simply refuse to believe anything I see in the media today regarding terrorism because the media being Leftys, have been caught too many times covering for terrorists. Example: Hasan mass murdering troops and of course the ever-constant spinning of 911.

26 If you can't get your stories right, I'll go somewhere else and get my free news that other people work to give me, while I bitch and complain about it, while donating zero dollars. That might straighten your shit out, pal.

I think you miss the point of the correction.

Blogs build their credibility one post at a time. It is, in fact, a waste of the readers time for a blogger to continually post shit he has to retract and constantly correct.

There are many fine conservative blogs on the internet that don't have anywhere near the ratio of incorrect, retracted or corrected posts. I've commented from time to time on this, but doesn't seem to do much good.

Ace, sloppy as ever, isn't even asking the correct questions.

The correct  question isn't "who shouted firecracker."

The correct question is: Why did the US State Department give a known terrorist a visa to enter our country.

You cannot board a flight in Amsterdam bound for Detroit without first receiving permission from the US Department of State.

So, not only does ACE waste time with stupid factually incorrect questions, he's not even asking the correct questions.

27

An apology and correction at the top of the page...!!!????!!!

Man, you'll never get an offer from NYT or CNN that way!

28

Ace Stars in:

Humility Becomes Her

29

#28 nevergiveup

I hate to be the only bigot here, but every passenger they seemed to interview had a name that sounded like they should be on the watch list?

Profiling..... B+

 

30 Tossed out a badly-founded implication without doing the minimum amount of homework necessary to do so.

Are you after Charles Gibson's job?

31 It's best to approach life with the predisposition that everything you see, read and hear is BullShit. Then there is always a pleasant surprise when something pans out.
Your probably right Ace, that someone, somewhere, in the administration asked them to promote the firecracker meme.
Always believe the bastards are fucking you and feeding you bullshit because it's 90%+ you're right.

32 Ace, even though I hate your racist denialist guts, I'll pass on this advice

NEVER admit you got it wrong, ALWAYS say that you never said what you previously put in words.

And buy a calendar

33 Who's Charles Gibson?

34

That's alright Ace -- I think Jawa got snookered when he posted a video of a binary explosive. The video showed something the size of a match head vaporizing a watermelon. If you make conventional explosives that powerful you probably wouldn't need nukes. BTW -- according to Jawa the explosive used was PETN.

35 What's a Jawa?

36

@16

So I'd really like to know who the hell started putting out the word to the media that this was just a matter of some "firecrackers."
I didn't know Ace was referencing this sentence of his. I thought he was worried about the MSM's unfounded claims that it was only firecrackers and not a "serious" explosive device being used to downplay the incident out of pro-Islamic p.c. that in his comments section blamed a specific BBC hack. Viz.

It was this guy, from the BBC. Imtiaz Tyab.
Check versions one (Breaking news) through to seven of the same article.
You can run, but you can't hide. @ BBC.
http://tinyurl.com/yepor5a
and...

Imtiaz Tyab
http://tinyurl.com/yddxp7f
And I was noting that the MSM made the firecrackers being set off claim (and not "sounded like a firecracker") early yesterday evening in their first reports.

And B+, you were responding to my CTV link last night that made the firecracker claim.

37 I'm confused...

38 sTevo, I offer that as one possibility that makes as much sense as trying to light plastic explosives in your shoe with a match. 

39

42 sTevo, I offer that as one possibility that makes as much sense as trying to light plastic explosives in your shoe with a match.

Everyone knows you have to click your heels together three times...

40 Ace, can't you work in an Obama-is-pussy or all-mooslims-is-evil angle into this?

41 Don't we have a page 15 to bury this story on?

42
Is it time to start drinkin' yet, or I gotta wait for the ONT?

43

This guy should never have been anywhere near a fucking trans-continental US flight. 

We are such limp pricks when it comes to airline safety.  Like a little stereotyping and generalization is going to kill a ton of innocents? Profiling is what works. 

 Ask the Israeli Security Forces.

  This guy probably volunteered for this job because it doesn't require dressing up in a hijab.

"Wanna kill some US citizens, sure thing...Why are you taking your pants off?  There's no need to dress up like a bitch, Abdul.  Odds are only 1 in 17 that you'll be searched.  They treat us just like any infidel! Silly Kuffar..."

44

Dear Mr. Ace,

We find your apology insufficient.

When such finding is made, please be advised that this office mandates that you present yourself to your nearest Internal Revenue Service Office for a review of your income records for the last seven years.

It is advisable to bring a blanket, toothbrush, and clean underwear.

Sincerely,

Apology Czar Butch

45

44

Somebody piss in your Wheaties this morning?

46

Somebody piss in your Wheaties this morning?

No, erg eats dick for breakfast.

47

Jeez. I basically missed this entire story (I'm at the in-laws for the holidays, zero time allotted for news watching/net use). Finally getting caught up. I think I have the sequence of events understood pretty well.

Thrilled that this time the good guys prevailed, but we are living on borrowed time. Our government simply isn't serious about protecting us from Islamist madmen, that much is clear. Whatever list this dung-stain was on, it didn't do one bit of good.

Obama should think long and hard about this incident. If this terrorist had taken a page from that Salahi duo, it could be Obama himself in the hospital (or worse) rather than the passenger(s?) that subdued the worm.   I know Obama loathes history, but he really should learn from it. We're weakening at the stress points just when we should be strengthening them.

48

Fox reported this morning that adminstration officials said Obama talked to (whoever is in charge of sercurty) "immediately."  Wonder where they got the word "immediately" and why.  I also wonder why Fox didn't report the discrepency.  Seems that would be big news, no?

49 Which Obama official told the AP to say that the report that it was firecrackers came from the passengers and crew?

50

Hawaiian time, which is five hours behind EST

Yeh, now it is. They don't do Daylight Savings Time, so it's 6 sometimes. So why am I bothering to mention it?

I was never here...

51

And I doubt AP was told what to do by the White House... I'm sure they volunteered.

52 Its wors than we think. I read a rport that this jihadi fella was jst rleesed from Gimto. But now the weeb siight has been shut down. Omimous. Be viligant.

53 What pisses me off is this guy has known terrorist connections and he's not on a no-fly list. My real name is the same as a Fox News anchor, and because some liberal idiot, after 9/11, turned in many Fox news employees names as potential terrorist threats, I am on said no-fly lists. My bags get opened every time and I get hard glances initially ( And I don't look the part). One inspector told me that unless I had political pull that this will be my flying experience indefinitely. Well, at least Abdul got on the plane with no hassles.

54 It wasn't reports that it sounded like a firecracker that were bothersome but that some were insinuating that it WAS firecrackers, or something equally as innocuous. Richard Reid's dud shoe bomb didn't seem like much, either.

One of our big problems, of course, is that we don't treat attempts like this the way we should. They only failed because of some extenuating circumstances, and we got lucky in the process. They should be treated as if they had successfully carried out their mission, and our reaction should also be commensurate with the reaction to a successful such attack.

Individualistic laws of civilized societies do not extend willy-nilly into the aether. They serve for policing individualistic societies which cherish individual liberty, not for ordering the savage, ruthless world in a way that it neither understands nor cares about.

55
Well, the last thing the St. Dpt. ever wants to do is offend someone.  That would be unseemly.

56 There are a bunch of story links assembled here too.

57 Ace, taking responsibility for your own mistakes is so . . . uh . . . unpresidential.

58 I don't understand why all of these fundamentalist Christians keep trying to blow up these planes.

59 Ace was acting stupidly.

60 TSA is now coming up with a quick way to determine if the skid stained undies are products of human waste or some kind of liquid explosive mixture.  The position will be a GS-7 Skid Stain Specialist. 

61

Terrorist was reportedly carrying PETN, high explosive which detonates at around 200 degrees C.  PETN and RDX are ingredients in Semtex.

Set on fire and BOOM!

62 Hawaiian time, which is five hours behind eastern...

THIS MEANS OBAMA WAS TOLD AT LEAST TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE AND DID NOTHING!

63

Abdulmutallab suffered second-degree burns in his genital area, investigators told ABC NewsÂ…

Well, at least there's that.

64 How long will it be after Iran perfects nukes that we can kiss one of our American cities bye bye?  And if/when they do, will we go medieval on their @sses with President Nobel Peace Prize in office?

65

Keep it up for 20 years Ace, and you will become a member of the msm.

 

If you are pretty enough and can afford model quality teeth..

66

to paraphrase some wag on another thread:

he was just doing the pre-landing flaming crotch ritual from sura 637 for good luck

67

I've been called a Firecracker once or twice...

68 Blowing your junk up kind of makes the 72 virgins promise pretty empty .

69

Abdulmutallab suffered second-degree burns in his genital area, investigators told ABC NewsÂ…

That's a serious dose of the clap right there. That should be a lesson to all of us, don't fuck goats or camels....................chickens are still OK thought.

70 #72, I'm a fan.

71

Blowing your junk up kind of makes the 72 virgins promise pretty empty .   Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 26, 2009 04:45 PM (vKdhq)

It ain't junk anymore....it's hamburger helper now.

72

Blowing your junk up kind of makes the 72 virgins promise pretty empty

 

Not if they look like Helen Thomas.

73
It he's lucky it really IS 72 dates.

And I hope every passenger got a chance to deliver a couple of kicks on the turd while he was getting subdued.

74 I want someone good, I mean very good, to plant that gun explosive. I don't want my brother coming out of the bathroom with just his dick in his hands.

75

I can't wait to meet the young man who acted on razor-sharp reflexes.

Leapt from several rows behind and had the bastard down before anyone else even rose from their seat.

That's preparation and spring-loaded action.

Wanna bet he's military? Perhaps a police officer?

76 Jasper Schuringa, a Dutch film director

Is the man that jumped him.

77 Bet the hero is a porn director. They can jump anything.

78 There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

Except for this one dude.

79

Thanks, JavaJoe.

If someone from the movie industry is going to throw himself on a bomb, well, I find it ironic that it's the heroic who do so and not the bastards out in Hollywood.

I'm not holdding my breath waiting on Lucas or Tarantino to do it.

80 If this means we have to now drop trow and have our underwear tested at the TSA checkpoint, air travel is going to become decidedly less attractive.

81
If he's Dutch he better watch out, they might charge him with war crimes for preventing the attack.

82

I need to make a CORRECTION TOO.  Earlier I made a statement on a different thread that OPIE the NEARLY REAL, TOTALLY GROOVY FAKE PRESIDENT was in fact CHRISTIAN.

Turns out he's actually a LYING MARXIST FLUNKY.

 

I'm very sorry for my origianl error.

83 48 Hrs

84 28 - Don't worry man, really. You're not the only bigot here.

85 Richard Reid...richard reid....hmmm...any relation to Harry?  I mean, besides ideology

86

If this means we have to now drop trow and have our underwear tested at the TSA checkpoint, air travel is going to become decidedly less attractive.    Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2009 05:08 PM (VW9/y)

Is that an explosive device or are you just happy to see me?

87 You are all missing the important story here. The pasengers who jumped the perp will have to be put on trial. For, you  know.....................................jumping to a conclusion.

88 what happened with the plane that landed in Iceland?

89 Bacon and a Kiss Airlines.

From Penn Gillete


Before boarding a plane you have to eat a piece of bacon and kiss a member of the same sex.


If you do then you can board the plane with anything you want.

If you refuse, that's OK just go through this security check out procedure.

90 I'm happy to know charges were filed against this man.

We can now sleep on planes knowing that paperwork has been pushed.

91

SGT Dan---

Thank you, I enjoy my work.

92
... and kiss a member of the same sex.

I don't get it, they do that at the madrasas and mosques all their lives.

93

No attacks v. USA in the 7 years of Bush post 9/11 - what did Bush miss exactly re counterterrorism?

Under Obama, we now have two successful domestic attacks and one near miss yesterday on Christmas - so how is that better than Bush, exactly?

Obama's weakness and apology tours are encouraging terror attacks on the United States.  Those are facts, not claims.

Regardless, we are where we are now - perhaps a dozen separate Obama public speeches of apology and butt kissing to "the Muslim world", and now at least three US Domestic terror attacks since Obama's arrival:

1. Murder of soldier in Little Rock by Islamic extremist

2. Murder of 13 soldiers and unborn child by Islamic extremist at FT Hood, and now

3. Attempted bombing of a plane in Michigan

Obviously, the kiss Muslim butt strategy is not working.

94  Why should a Dutch film director care about Islamic terrorists?

95 Is this the dude? I'm not really clear on the whole Facebook thing so maybe it's just a tribute page or something...

96 I wouldn't stomp his crotch if his balls were on fire ... wait ... yes I would.

97 Actually, the firecracker story is being pushed, just not by anyone sane. If you want to don a double bag set of full body condoms, head over to Democratic Underground. They are positing that it is a case of abuse of an innocent Nigerian first time visitor to our country who was merely following the ancient and hallowed Nigerian ritual of shooting off fireworks at Christmas. The things that the enemy will decide to believe in order to preserve "The Narrative". Subotai Bahadur

98
85 JackStraw

If this means we have to now drop trow and have our underwear tested at the TSA checkpoint, air travel is going to become decidedly less attractive.

"Does my bomb look big in this?"

99 Ace, Ace, Ace, how can you hope to join the Big Boys at CBS and the New York Times if you won't bury your corrections where no one will see them?

100 Obama knows the Chicago way, they come after a plane you go after their....wait...you arrest the guy and put him in prison in Illinois.

Tough Love.

101
Two times, I bet.

102 "Abdulmutallab suffered second-degree burns"

I hear that lard is a traditional ointment....

103 The first news cycle usually includes an FBI spokesman downplaying terrorism as a motive.

The first thing reporters do is call the FBI for a statement.

The MSM was aware that it was much more serious than a few firecrackers - and they knew it on the leading edge of the first cycle.

104
if you won't bury your corrections where no one will see them?

I suggest msnbc.

105

This is an INSIDE FALSE FLAG JOB.  No CHENEY'S were involved.

 

THAT IS ALL.

106

Attempted bombing on Jesus' birthday?   Religion of Peace?

Next thing you'll tell me Obama was an Affirmative Action student.

107

#102...

The SOB hasn't even claimed innocence.

What a bunch of pricks.

108

Wait.

We already can't carry bulk liquids on planes.

Does this mean we must leave our cocaine behind too?

109

UPDATE: just cracked the first Celebration Ale, gotta get back on the horse.

that is all

110 On another note, they were heading to Detroit, so maybe it was a mercy killing attempt.

111

Cracking Ale!!  I shall join you soon.

that is all.

112

Obama, with his relentless focus on America's security, is right this second playing golf with Chicago buddies in Hawaii, and earlier today he was playing at the gym.

Now that's some serious focus post terror attack.

Thank goodness he's in there instead of McCain.

He should be back in DC in the situation room.  That's what the MSM would say if Bush was in Texas out cutting brush, right?

and this Nigerian is a rich spoiled kid, son of a rich banker - which EXPLODES the leftist myth of the poor, economically deprived suicide bomber.

By Associated Press

3:09 PM CST, December 26, 2009

KANEOHE BAY, Hawaii (AP) — President Barack Obama is playing golf with friends from Hawaii and Chicago on the second full day of his Hawaii vacation.

The president's motorcade traveled a few minutes from his vacation home to the golf course at the Marine Corps base in Kaneohe Bay on Saturday morning.

The Kaneohe Klipper golf course overlooks the Pacific Ocean, and is well-known among island golfers as a scenic course.

Obama is playing with Greg Orme, Mike Ramos, and Bobby Titcomb — all from Hawaii — and Eric Whitaker, a friend from Chicago.

Earlier in the day, Obama and his wife worked out at the Marine Corps base gym.

The president's family arrived in Hawaii on Christmas Eve.

113
maybe it was a mercy killing attempt.

Maybe Wee Wee's healthcare destruction plan contracted  the Death Panels out to the man-made-distasterists, and this guy convened the first one.

114 Everyone was celebrating yesterday but there is always the one guy who knows what is going on at all times.   This is the guy who announced to everyone about the incident then everywhere once someone says "hey guys, there's been an incident" then the tv went on.  They originally reported fireworks and that means there must have been a really loud sound.  So does that mean the intent failed and made the sound of a firecracker.

Also, how come there were immediate pictures on twitter.

How come jet blue is taking off the screen today, an hour before landing? (per CNN)

115 ba-boom!

http://tinyurl.com/yzdbrw4

116

Cracking Ale!!  I shall join you soon.

Excellent!  I hate to drink alone.

117 a lot of libs are wondering why he didn't cut his vacation short and return to the WH?

was even told by a lib last night that if he didn't do this he would suffer with his numbers in the polls.   a lib said this...a really honest to goodness, voted for him, lib

118 a lot of libs are wondering why he didn't cut his vacation short and return to the WH?

A lot of none libs are glad he's staying there and not getting involved.

His numbers may go up

119

Does this mean that from now on I will have to check my colostomy bag?

 

120 123 a lot of libs are wondering why he didn't cut his vacation short and return to the WH?

A lot of none libs are glad he's staying there and not getting involved.

His numbers may go up

Posted by: JavaJoe at December 26, 2009 05:50 PM (e9JZd)

Obama's fraudulent butt is on TV 10 times a week pushing his socialist programs so much that even leftists are getting tired of seeing his mug drone on about "bending the cost curve"

Now, after a near miss terrorist attack on Christmas, Obama refuses to go on TV to reassure the nation that they can continue to travel safely and that everythign's cool? That's what the fucking President is SUPPOSED TO DO, as opposed to the 10X a week domestic policy speeches bullshit he does.

big, big sigh.

121

The president's family arrived in Hawaii on Christmas Eve.      Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at December 26, 2009 05:45 PM (5r0Tz)

Can we get the Japs to attack again?

122 Apology accepted, Captain Ace.

123 Ace, you got some splainin' to do!

124 Owe-bama has created or saved 12,396 non-acts of man-made disasters.

125

"Can we get the Japs to attack again?"

Scenario:  Japs attack again. Barack looks up into the sky.

Superbly- educated Barack:   "Hey look!  an old Italian plane!!!"

 

 

126 Why can't we just use registered sex offenders as TSA gropers? They have more experience and certainly would enjoy their work. And I'll bet those fuckers could tell explosives from a testicle. And Richard Quest at CNNi would be all over a storyline like that. Andy Cooper, too.

127 You know what you need son? You need some layers. A few good layers would do you just right!

128

My facility with golf clubs, Mr. President, brought down "da man".

129
All is well, Wee Wee spoke to his henchmen in D.C. for an entire FIFTEEN MINUTES this morning!  It is completely safe to fly, Barack Hussein Obama has decreed it to be so.

Washington spoke with Obama at 6:20 a.m. by secure telephone conference call at the first family's rented vacation home. The call lasted less than 15 minutes.

130

123 a lot of libs are wondering why he didn't cut his vacation  weiner short and return to the WH?

I was thinking that too.

131
24 A 26 word apology? What the hell is wrong with you today?

Blame me. I bitched Ace out when he typed out an 800 page apology for, ummm, something queer I think. And Ace? thanks for short and sweet. It's appreciated.

And to be filed in News of the Weird: it turns out that my 20-something cousin was on that flight. Shit like this generally doesn't happen to us. Religon of peace, my ass...

132
sup fagz

whats goin on in this thrad?

133

Ya'll wanna know what tastes good?

Drambuie, that's what.

134 91 Is that an explosive device or are you just happy to see me? -------------- Dick Cheney's gonna have to start driving everywhere.

135 I find it comforting if our security teams just took appropriate action and let prez wee weed know well after the fact vs giving him an opportunity to over-rule appropriate actions. Seems they may have learned from the pirate/Navy situation.

136

I give Ace's first attempt at this story a solid B+...

 

137 Wait, they didn't renew the patriot act? 

138 PETN, 50 grams. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZENvUVG6TE Other amounts on vid there as well.

139 Well, Ace's reporting is still more accurate, on average, than homogenized climate data.

140 I bitched Ace out when he typed out an 800 page apology for, ummm, something queer I think.

141 In fact, I believe I even posted it on this blog comments last night.

142 Thanks for sharing this! Bishop Jordan Personal Growth