1 We call it "demoralizing the base."

2 Cute how they spin those numbers to say that they must pass Obamacare, when that is what is driving their numbers down.

3 And my teenage daughter is dying to see the Alvin and the Chipmunks "squeakuel."

4 I diagnose congressional democrats with "brain cloud"

5 Way to bite off more than you can chew, Democraps!

It's like watching that crazy anti-war protesting Buddhist monk immolate himself.

6 Damn, my best shot locally is watching the re-districting dogfight after Massachusetts loses a seat after the census.

7 Winston Churchill's favorite joke was the one with the punchline, "Let's walk down and have them all."

The Democrats fell for the Rahm Emanuel thing about not letting a good crisis go to waste.  They rushed to screw as many taxpayers as much as they could, when all they had to do was to take their time and they could have screwed us all seven ways from Sunday.

8 There's a fairly cool graphic of this at Kos, where they're all taking themselves to task over the Enthusiasm Gap and wondering what's become of Today's Youth.

The bare naked graphic is linked below (skip it if you want to give zero traffic to the kos domain) :

http://tinyurl.com/yjy5rdq

9 all they had to do was to take their time and they could have screwed us all seven ways from Sunday.
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Damn straight, Stu! Thank God they're stupid as well as wrong.

10 "self-identified Republicans were three times more likely to say they were going to vote next year."

56% of Democrats say they -will- vote next year, and Republicans are three times as likely to say the same?  So, 168% of Republicans say they will vote next year?

The MSM, once again displaying their AWESOME math skillz.

Qwinn

11 The Dems need to put the pedal to the metal and drive faster off the cliff. And not take us with them.

12 Being radioactive sucks

13 The Dems need to put the pedal to the metal and drive faster off the cliff. And not take us with them.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 01, 2009 02:26 AM (gofDd)

Don't worry!  Charles Johnson has volunteered to supercharge their engine!

14 Wait til the freebies and such start flying to the ghettos around election time. I guarantee that will happen in '12, then four more years of Barry. I wish only taxpaying citizens without a felony criminal record could vote. Permanent Republican majority, if that were the case.

15 Posted by: Qwinn at December 01, 2009 02:22 AM (SxA2Q)

Yes, I believe the correct statistic is that only one-third as many Republicans have declared they won't vote in 2010 as have Democrats.

16 Among self-identified Republican voters, 81% are either "definitely" voting next year or "probably" voting, while 14% are "not likely" to vote or will "definitely" not vote.

Among self-identified Independent voters, 65% are either "definitely" voting next year or "probably" voting, while 23% are "not likely" to vote or will "definitely" not vote.

And among self-identified Democratic voters, 56% are either "definitely" voting next year or "probably" voting, while 40% are "not likely" to vote or will "definitely" not vote.

So technically roughly three times as many Democrats aren't going to vote as Republicans aren't going to vote.  So by the new math double negative transverse law of multiplication, that's the same as three times as many Republicans planning to vote.  Or something.

17 Poll numbers are to Obamacare as Any Weather Changes are to Global Warming

Any weather condition is proof of global warming/cooling or whatever term they need to fit the weather forecast for the day.

Now any poll shows Obamacare must pass.  If the poll is good, the public wants it, if the poll stays the same, the public is starting to warm up to it, if it is bad its because the public doesn't think it will pass.

I think there is an 8th level of hell Dante missed for media spin-meisters.

18 Wait til the freebies and such start flying to the ghettos around election time. I guarantee that will happen in '12, then four more years of Barry. I wish only taxpaying citizens without a felony criminal record could vote. Permanent Republican majority, if that were the case.

Posted by: The Drizzle at December 01, 2009 02:32 AM (PEr+c)

that is what the "stimulus" was all about

19

"...they're all taking themselves to task over the Enthusiasm Gap and wondering what's become of Today's Youth."

Relying on the "youth" again, eh? The only reason the youngins came out in 2008 was that Dems offered them a Snickers bar if they voted for Obama. I took the Snickers, told them to piss off and voted Palin/Old Dude. Don't trust young people. Especially if you've run out of Snickers.

20 Wait til the freebies and such start flying to the ghettos around election time. I guarantee that will happen in '12, then four more years of Barry. I wish only taxpaying citizens without a felony criminal record could vote. Permanent Republican majority, if that were the case.

Posted by: The Drizzle at December 01, 2009 02:32 AM (PEr+c)

That would probably work a lot better for Obama if Black unemployment wasn't running so very, very high.  It's almost like Barack Obama hates Black people or something.

21 We have some non-AoSHQ approved spam above.
If it's not lace wigs it's gots to go, yo!

22 Heh, Daily Kos is worried about lack of enthusiasm. All polls are bogus, but this one is delightful! Heh, 40% of the brainwashed faithful staying home next year, eh? Let's see ACORN and SEIU and others raise enough zombies to balance that loss! (Go ahead, try it, guys. Breitbart has a hose o' holy water waiting for you.) Lessee, Republicans are three times more likely to vote, which makes it about 60% turnout by usual standards. Maybe we ought to go for the holy water after all....
Drizzle: If Obaka dumps stimulus $$ in the cities again, he is just re-buying the votes he already had. It will be the lack of votes elsewhere that will ensure Teh Won has no coattails. The way I see it, having the Dems spend $$ re-wooing their base instead of extending their reach to to others again as per '08 is just fine. 
TexMex: Darn it, no one offered me a Snickers bar bribe last year, cheap-ass Ohio pols.... It would have had the same lack of effect, but it would have been yummy.

23 You didn't say it was HUff Po....my eyes!!!!!

24

Police shot and killed cop killer Maurice Clemmons.

25

You bunch of raciest!!

 

OsamaHusseinIslamObama 2012'

(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)

-It's never too early to campaign-

26 My balls are chapped.

27 Any weather condition is proof of global warming/cooling or whatever term they need to fit the weather forecast for the day.

Now any poll shows Obamacare must pass. Ýkinci El Eþya If the poll is good, the public wants it, if the poll stays the same, the public is starting to warm up to it, if it is bad its because the public doesn't think it will pass.

28 Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply.

29 Tinian - I've just been watching local news coverage here. They've arrested four that helped him and look to arrest another six or seven today. He had a lot of help.

30 Where IS that Hitler in a Bunker scene from, anyway? I can't find the movie.

31 Methinks you guys celebrate too early. Is there not like, 700 billion in payoff - er, stiumulus money to go around yet between now and election day 2010?

32 Its from "Downfall" - a great, great movie, Def.

33 @20, do you really think the blacks would change their vote because of unemployment? I'm not being snippy, but look at the black cities with black mayors. Still in shambles, still corrupt to the core, still broken families, rampant poverty, record unemployment, drug wars, turf wars, gang wars, rape, arson, etc. and they blame everyone but themselves.
If some community activist group a la ACORN gets their act together between now and the summer, the Democrats are going to have the majority again. But I will go on the record to doubt this will happen because unlike last time, you aren't seeing the push to vote in ONE black President. It would have to be broken down into dozens of black, female, Jewish, white and Puerto Rican candidates across the country.

34 @35, thanks!

35 56% of Democrats say they -will- vote next year, and Republicans are three times as likely to say the same?  So, 168% of Republicans say they will vote next year?

You forgot to apply Mike's Trick to adjust the data.

36
Too bad these democrat fuck-sticks can't man up to what they did and actually vote for a republican to help fix the mess they made.

Instead they'll do what they should have done 13 months ago and stay at home.

Gee,  thanks,  fuckers.

37

Methinks you guys celebrate too early. Is there not like, 700 billion in payoff - er, stiumulus money to go around yet between now and election day 2010?

That play has been run before. In 2006, the House Republicans were convinced "earmarks" were going to save them. They spread enough pork around to make Oscar Meyer envious. In the end, it only backfired.

Don't forget the almighty power of gerrymandered districts

38 Math question for you guys: If 60% of the Democrats are going to vote and Republicans are 3x as likely to say that they are going to vote, does that mean 180% of Republicans are likely to vote in the next election?

39 I think celebration is not called for as well. It is far too early to start counting the chickens here.  The Won is still fornicating that bird.

40 Don't forget the almighty stupidity of the Republican leadership.

Anyone else get Newt's gawd awful fundraising letter yesterday?

Put me down for straight party libertarian votes for the next decade or so.

41 all aboard!!! ai ai ai

42

They need a Special Comment to bolster their balls. A Keith Olbermann ball bolstering.

And a few faggy run-on sentences.

43 ACORN, SEIU, Americorp, etc. will take care of the 2010 elections not to worry.

We will be a banana republic....thanks morons

44 Forty percent of self-identified Democratic voters say they are "not likely" or "definitely" won't vote in next year's Congressional elections, according to a little-noticed poll released over the Thanksgiving weekend... ...self-identified Republicans were three times more likely to say they were going to vote next year. The results suggest perilous fights for Democrats in the midterm elections *********** Without actually clicking, these two sentences make no sense. If 40% of Democrats aren't voting, then 60% are. If Republicans are three times more likely to say they're voting, that makes 180%, and everyone knows that only Democrats can get those sorts of numbers.

45

does that mean 180% of Republicans are likely to vote in the next election?

Only if there's a Republican version of ACORN.

46 I agree with the grammar cop.

47 do you really think the blacks would change their vote because of unemployment? I'm not being snippy, but look at the black cities with black mayors. Still in shambles, still corrupt to the core, still broken families, rampant poverty, record unemployment, drug wars, turf wars, gang wars, rape, arson, etc. and they blame everyone but themselves.

Sounds just like ... Africa.

48

Mallamutt is right about gerrymandering;  when it comes to creating safe seats, elected Democrats and elected Republicans are all members of the Incumbent Party.

2010 is more important than the 2012 beauty pageant.  We desperately need to take the House away from Pelosi and the "Progressives".  We should support Republicans challenging Blue Dog Democrats, where they can win, and Independent Conservatives where they can't.  These are roughly the middle 1/3rd of the Democrats in the House.  The districts are rural and suburban districts, mostly MidWest through NorthEast, that are more conservative then their representatives but not willing to vote for a Republican.

We have a list.

 

 

49

Voted my first, in 68 years, straight 'R' ticket in Nov and that will continue, and I will vote in every local, state and federal election.

52. Unemployment effects less than 10% of blacks since the rest have never and will never work. The welfare gravy train is too fluid and attractive. They only poll them to drive the stats in whatever direction the fringe (former and dying MSM) media desires.

50 Yeah... I remember during the primaries where the polls showed that Hilary supporters would rather vote for McCain than Obama, but that didn't happen, did it?

51 @55. Yes, it did. I was a Hillary supporter who voted for McCain/Palin. Thousands of us did. It was the Republican McCain haters who stayed home.

Thanks guys. This is your fault.

52 "safe seats" are only safe to the tune of 10-20% margin or so.  If you get a large disparity in turnout as this poll suggests, even a gerrymandered "safe seat" can become vulnerable.

Remember - the Gerrymandering process was designed to retain seats during normal times.  For the hundreds of ordinary congressmen out there, these are not normal times.

Of course the royalty, like Pelosi, will have truly safe seats, but even there, that comes at the expense of weakening the hold on other districts in the area.

53

That would probably work a lot better for Obama if Black unemployment wasn't running so very, very high.  It's almost like Barack Obama hates Black people or something.

If he's still going to try to push through "comprehensive" immigration crap, I think it can be safely said that yes, even African Americans can be thrown under the bus...

 

54

Posted by: motionview at December 01, 2009 11:15 AM (DtSf1)

You would do better joing the GOP and helping us purge the "moderate" RINOs.

In the last 10 years, how many "independents" have made it to Congress? I can only think of three. I can only think of Socialist  (Honest Commiecrat) Bernie Sanders and disgusted "Boll Weevil Democrat" who later turned Republican Virgil Goode. In the Senate, Lieberman changed when his own party tried to throw him under the bus.

55 And here you go! Man the Internets have everything.


Hitler 2010 Election Returns

http://tiny.cc/jhrGg