December 14, 2009

Democrats Contrive "Knife in the Back" Storyline About Joe Lieberman
— Ace

Ed is beset himself wondering how on earth Joe Lieberman's resistance to cloture on ObamaCare can possibly be a "surprise setback" when Liebermann's been saying the same basic thing since, like, the second week of last Forever.

Well, not to get all Hitler on anyone, but every failure needs a scapegoat. You need an Emmanuel Goldstein out there if you want to direct anger from its rightful object (the Democrats, generally, but especially Obama and the Congressional leadership) to a convenient whipping boy.

Joe Lieberman didn't stab them in the back. He stabbed them directly in their fronts, and not even sneaky-like; he's stabbing them after telling them repeatedly "Stop threatening me with this devastating blow to the economy or I will be forced to defend myself." After telling them that thirty times, and yet watching them continue to menace the country with ObamaCare, he defended himself, and us of course, but so now it's a surprise knife-in-the-back from the typical wielder of such weapons.

Joe Lieberman is technically -- and actually -- an independent. He owes the Democrats no allegiance or loyalty. That's what the word "independent" generally means, a lack of obligation or duty to any faction. They are casting this as if Lieberman owed them their vote, and that it is then an act of betrayal to not have it; while in fact of course it was always he Democrats' who had the responsibility to persuade and earn his vote.

Further, the Democrats have long been playing a cynical game here. On one hand, the angry netroots wants ObamaCare, in as extreme form as possible, not because they really understand this or that provision, but largely because they know the "Teabaggers" do not want it, and in the typical dreary calculus of thumb-in-the-eye vengeance politics, they simply want it because they want to make a show of political domination and humiliation over their opponents.

So at no point in these proceedings were the Democrats seriously, on-the-square negotiating in good faith for a bill that would be broadly acceptable to at least 60% of America; instead, they have always insisted on the outlines of a bill that would be eagerly greeted by 30% and unwanted, or even despised, by the rest. This has long been a cynical game of proposing a maximalist policy that they knew they didn't have the votes for to appease their base, so that they can then use claims of "betrayal" and Republican obstructionism to gin up support and donations.

As a pundit long ago suggested: The Democrats' dream scenario is to propose something extreme to get the netroots excited and yet lose by one or two votes, so they get credit from the far left for attempting to foist socialism on America but do not provoke the vast majority of voters, who are justifiably frightened of that prospect, by actually accomplishing the goal.

Best of both worlds. To the left: We really tried to create the Socialist States of America. To the center: But we didn't, so it's still safe to vote Democratic.

So, this is their dream scenario, their carefully-constructed contrivance for getting them out of the situation they created for themselves. I notice that there is apparently no surprise about Ben Nelson, a good Democrat they want re-elected, also stating he wouldn't vote for closure; or Claire McCaskill's statement she wouldn't vote for any bill that increased the deficit.

Of course not. Those are Senators in red or purple states and the Democrats want to insulate them from the wrath of the base; so anger is directed instead to someone not of their party at all. (Just as the Democrats' failures have long been pinned on Republicans, who cannot block a single thing the Democrats propose.)

And so it goes.

Posted by: Ace at 09:43 AM | Comments (87)
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1 The campaign to smear Lieberman is on...

You don't mess with the democrat mob.

Posted by: ethos at December 14, 2009 09:46 AM (0fzsA)

2 How can Joe betray us like this after all we did for him?

Posted by: screamin' Howard Dean at December 14, 2009 09:47 AM (4Kl5M)

3
ONLY REPUBLICANS NEED A BIG TENT

Posted by: posted by at December 14, 2009 09:47 AM (z37MR)

4 Interesting that the D's are accusing a prominent Jewish politician of the "Knife in the Back" - the ""Dolchstoss". Why did they choose that particular phrase, I wonder?

Posted by: Obama-Jugend at December 14, 2009 09:47 AM (QJzQi)

5 Lieberman's B+ is in serious jeopardy.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at December 14, 2009 09:47 AM (+lsX1)

6

Save me Obi Wan Alinsky, you are my only hope!

Posted by: Princess Obama of Chicagoa at December 14, 2009 09:48 AM (SqAkN)

7

It's Joe Lieberman, not Liebermann.  It's Emmanuel Goldstein, not Immanuel Goldstein. 

Posted by: Never Mind at December 14, 2009 09:48 AM (eMePu)

8 Dementocrats came to the Joementum gunfight armed with a rubber knife.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 14, 2009 09:48 AM (qmAaI)

9 Politics ain't beanbag.  But it's doubly convenient to make Joe the scapegoat, because they can also slander him for being pro-Israel when it comes time to deal with Iran's nuclear program.  It's a big twofer for the drooling moonbats.

Posted by: stuiec at December 14, 2009 09:48 AM (Ate22)

10

5
ONLY REPUBLICANS NEED A BIG TENT

Know what you have when you get a big enough tent? A circus.

Posted by: maddogg at December 14, 2009 09:49 AM (OlN4e)

11 Agreed, chief.  If anything, Joe owes the democrat party negative loyalty.  They are very lucky he doesn't vote against them merely out of spite.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 14, 2009 09:49 AM (T0NGe)

12
A circus.

Yep. And that's what we have -- a bunch of clowns running around stepping in elephant shit.

Posted by: Posted by at December 14, 2009 09:50 AM (z37MR)

13 11 Politics ain't beanbag.

What if it were?  Wouldn't that be fun!

Posted by: AmishDude at December 14, 2009 09:51 AM (T0NGe)

14

Things more rare than a live dodo:  A U.S. senator paying attention to an issue based on actual substance instead of cynical calculation and/or arrogance and/or outright stupidity (Tom Harkin has rafts of hat tricks for all of the above).

The Dems were never serious aobut this issue since their solution resembled the same uber-sausage making tendencies they exhibited when crafting the Crapulus. 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 14, 2009 09:51 AM (B+qrE)

15 In the meantime, Arlen Specter get the Spalding Smails award.  He got nothing, and liked it.

Posted by: CUS at December 14, 2009 09:52 AM (wOGfT)

16
Dodd endorsed Lamont in 2006.

Who's Lieberman endorsing in 2010? That's right, his pal Chris Dodd.

Conclusion: Joe Lieberman is a Republican deep down. I mean, who else would act like a doormat?

Posted by: Posted by at December 14, 2009 09:53 AM (z37MR)

17

Claire McCaskill's statement she wouldn't vote for any bill that increased the deficit.

Because everyone know Clair McCaskill's against raising the deficit. Unless all that deficit spending is going her way. Then she is fine with it. McCaskill's just posing as a deficit hawk until it is time for the actuall vote. Then, she will dutifully explain how we need to spend a trillion to save a trillion.

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 14, 2009 09:53 AM (hKyl0)

18 I just needed a few more of those Mentos commercials and we'd have that sucker passed.

Posted by: Neddie Lamont at December 14, 2009 09:53 AM (2Uu3I)

19 Joe The independent!

A real American.  So when do the Dems start digging shit up on Joe to shoot him down?
 
Palin Lieberman!

Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 14, 2009 09:53 AM (x4S2a)

20 I personally don't care which side the knife goes in, as long as it goes deep.

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at December 14, 2009 09:53 AM (yKw7P)

21 So when does Joe finally take a cookie and make his transformation to the Republican Dark Side complete?

Posted by: stuiec at December 14, 2009 09:53 AM (Ate22)

22 I was shocked as hell by Lieberman's announcement that he opposed the public option.

Fact is, he is a Connecticut Democrat. Happens to be pro-killing terrorist, but he's John Kerry with balls, politically speaking. The man is a Truman Democrat more then anything else. He won the last election because Republicans in CT figured he was the best they would get. If the Dems run another lefty in the primary, and he runs independent again, we might be able to rally the GOP candidate into a win with 40% of the vote or so.

Anyway, the man is a liberal Democrat. A hawk, but still a big government liberal Democrat. So I'm not sure why he's opposing the public option. Does he have internals telling him that the lefty base will not vote for him three years from now? Is he trying to build up a coalition of independents and conservatives who "know" that no Republican can win in CT, and so vote Joe as the lesser of two evils? Is his ego raging because of the Lamont backstabbing?

Posted by: Britt at December 14, 2009 09:54 AM (DcWbe)

23 It's been said before but what the hell it's the holiday season: Power corrupts, Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 14, 2009 09:55 AM (0GFWk)

24 Then she is fine with it. McCaskill's just posing as a deficit hawk until it is time for the actuall vote. Then, she will dutifully explain how we need to spend a trillion to save a trillion.

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 14, 2009 01:53 PM (hKyl0)

If it won't pass, she won't vote for it.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 14, 2009 09:55 AM (T0NGe)

25 gaaa! The open italics tag runs amok!

Posted by: Harry Callahan at December 14, 2009 09:56 AM (fagDq)

26 It's funny.  There's a comic book message board I used to post on that's overwhelmingly liberal when it comes to politics.  One of the long-term posters is an anonymous reporter from Michigan, and he is a perfect cliche of the liberal media.

Without exception, he can be counted on to parrot any leftwing talking point in the most partisan fashion.  Democrats perfect, Republicans evil, and in at least five years of observation I have never seen an exception to this.

Anyway, I noticed him running with the "Lieberman is a traitor" meme last night, and consequently I'm not surprised to learn that this has been orchestrated by the Democrats.

Posted by: Kensington at December 14, 2009 09:56 AM (BlBnA)

27 tadah! Fixed. Aren't I powerful.

Posted by: Harry Callahan at December 14, 2009 09:56 AM (fagDq)

28

Is he trying to build up a coalition of independents and conservatives who "know" that no Republican can win in CT, and so vote Joe as the lesser of two evils? Is his ego raging because of the Lamont backstabbing?

I think he is trying to either repeat 2006 (where the Republicans basically ran a stuffed bear against Lieberman and LaMont) or, ultimately, he can be the token Democrat (say, Department of Defense) in a Republican administration.

 

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 14, 2009 09:57 AM (hKyl0)

29 "ONLY REPUBLICANS NEED A BIG TENT"

Mrs. Palin makes my tent effing HUGE.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 14, 2009 09:58 AM (x4S2a)

30 Never Mind, Thanks for the corrections. Got a little silly there, didn't I, with the misspellings.

Posted by: ace at December 14, 2009 09:58 AM (jlvw3)

31 The Left has no brains and the Right has no balls, while it's hard to find few among any in that vipers den that can define when or why the US is exceptional. And much of all that we were is in the balance by one man? We're in trouble.

Posted by: FURPC at December 14, 2009 09:59 AM (ZJ6KO)

32

I'm with Stu -- the Dems have themselves a cherry situation, for them.  They can weasel out of any total accountablity with the American majority (thanks to Republicans who could vote for this), or they can weasel their base (who doesn't seem to want to pay attention to what is really going on, or is ok with it in the first place -- it's hard to tell sometimes), they've got a perfect anti-Israel whipping boy in Lieberman as well as healthcare -- and they can do damage to their prodigal son with this.  They're going to call out their flying monkeys to hit it heavy and hard -- bastards.

 

And with the economy in the tank and tanking, they'll use their nonpassage of healthcare, cap and trade, stimulus part deux/tres/quattro as an election blurb -- bastards.

Posted by: unknown jane, at December 14, 2009 10:00 AM (5/yRG)

33 Comic book guy, that makes me think that being hate filled lefty is it's own super power.  These people can adopt a narrative and develop hate towards any chosen villian at the drop of a hat.
I remember encountering this when discussing John Bolton with friends.  Just boom, Bolton bad...we must hate.
So, yeah, the alternate based reality community strikes again.

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 14, 2009 10:00 AM (QxSug)

34 Sounds about right to me. But I don't know if this is their dream scenario. They might think it's their best option at this point. Remember that they almost got this passed months ago without discussion. They thought this would fly through then they would be able to move on to all the tax schemes. What sucks for us is the talk about the Dems being better off if this fails is just happy talk from the NRO. The Dems are already gonna get hit hard by their lurch left. If they pass it they might be a little worse off than if it fails, but so much worse that they won't pass something that will, at least, be nearly impossible to rescind?

Posted by: runninrebel at December 14, 2009 10:00 AM (i3PJU)

35 So when can we start making comparisons between Dems with their single payer socialized healthcare plans and the movie Hamburger Hill?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 14, 2009 10:01 AM (SqAkN)

36

If it won't pass, she won't vote for it.

Possibly - but only because the one political belief Clair McCaskill believes in is whatever is best for Clair McCaskill.

 

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 14, 2009 10:01 AM (hKyl0)

37

Those are Senators in red or purple states and the Democrats want to insulate them from the wrath of the base; so anger is directed instead to someone not of their party at all. (Just as the Democrats' failures have long been pinned on Republicans, who cannot block a single thing the Democrats propose.)

Speaking of a similar Democratic Senator in a bad spot: Colorado Senator Micheal Bennett currently trails all 3 possible Republican challengers. Best case scenerio, Bennett losing by 1. Worst case: Bennett down 9 to former Lt. Governor Jane Norton by 9. All polls are Rass.

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 14, 2009 10:04 AM (hKyl0)

38 The hand that held the dagger has struck it into the crotch of Harry Reid.

Posted by: FDR at December 14, 2009 10:05 AM (wuv1c)

39 my bad guys, my bad

Posted by: Ned Lamont at December 14, 2009 10:05 AM (wuv1c)

40 Exactly correct.

Posted by: dr kill at December 14, 2009 10:05 AM (fnXhn)

41

We will break glass if needed

Posted by: The Daily Kos at December 14, 2009 10:06 AM (wuv1c)

42

Best of both worlds. To the left: We really tried to create the Socialist States of America. To the center: But we didn't, so it's still safe to vote Democratic.

 

I don't think those are the lyrics to my song.

Posted by: Hannah Montanna at December 14, 2009 10:07 AM (hKyl0)

43

So when can we start making comparisons between Dems with their single payer socialized healthcare plans and the movie Hamburger Hill?

 

I find this concept intriguing, go on.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2009 10:08 AM (wuv1c)

44

We will break glass bones if needed

FIFY

Posted by: SEIU Thug at December 14, 2009 10:08 AM (hKyl0)

45

The Dems should have kissed him first, then treated him to dinner and a movie.

 Even SNL comedy writers know better than that.

Posted by: Roy at December 14, 2009 10:08 AM (uVuFz)

46 As a proud Missourian, I can tell you all that I will not give up until Claire McCaskill is removed from her senate seat. Major disgrace.

Posted by: Dave at December 14, 2009 10:09 AM (Xm1aB)

47 We should strip Lieberman of his committee chairmanship - that will teach him and get health care passed!

Posted by: Kos Kid at December 14, 2009 10:09 AM (hKyl0)

48 Politics ain't beanbag.

What if it were?  Wouldn't that be fun!

Posted by: AmishDude at December 14, 2009 01:51 PM (T0NGe)

Ever get hit in the head with a beanbag?  Thrown real hard?

Do you like getting kicked in the head with a steel toed boot?  Of course not, no one does.  That's a stupid question, forget I asked it.

Posted by: Rex Kramer at December 14, 2009 10:13 AM (Ate22)

49 Newsman: [trying to interview Democrats returning to base after a hard day of failing at healthcare] Hey, word down at the New York Times is you guys can't take pass this bill. What do you have to say about that? In fact Senator Kennedy insists you guys haven't got a chance at all.
Sgt. Pelosi: [glares at Newsman for a few seconds] You really like this shit, don't you? It's your job, a story, wait here like a fucking vulture for our political careers to die so you can take a picture.
Newsman: [becoming angry] It's my job...
Sgt. Pelosi: I got more respect for those little bastards holding up the bill. They take a side, you just take pictures. You probably don't even do your own fucking!
Newsman: What?
Sgt. Pelosi: You listen to me. We're gonna pass this fucking bill, Newsman. And if I catch you on top taking pictures of any of my people, I will blow your fucking head off. You haven't earned a right to be here. *You got that?*

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 14, 2009 10:13 AM (SqAkN)

50

The Dems should have kissed him first, then treated him to dinner and a movie

Maybe Joe Liberman looks like Mrs. Obama?

Posted by: China President at December 14, 2009 10:13 AM (hKyl0)

51

Speaking of a similar Democratic Senator in a bad spot: Colorado Senator Micheal Bennett currently trails all 3 possible Republican challengers. Best case scenerio, Bennett losing by 1. Worst case: Bennett down 9 to former Lt. Governor Jane Norton by 9. All polls are Rass.

That's assuming Bennet even gets past the primary, and with Andrew Romanoff going up against him on the Dem side, that's no guarantee.  Norton, however, is outpolling both of them for the time being.

Posted by: David Axelrod's Combover at December 14, 2009 10:16 AM (/Pw+r)

52

Point of idiom: it's "beside himself," not "beset himself."  Unless "beset himself" is a regionalism of which I am unaware.

Carry on.

Posted by: A gentle reader at December 14, 2009 10:16 AM (Ate22)

53 The Dems should have kissed him first, then treated him to dinner and a movie

More than I ever got...

Posted by: The Chicken at December 14, 2009 10:16 AM (wOGfT)

54
re: runningrn's comment about Bart Gordon

Will someone please tell me why the RNC didn't run a good (R) candidate in a Republican-leaning district in Tennessee since 2000?


Posted by: Posted by at December 14, 2009 10:16 AM (z37MR)

55 Union Overlord Andy Stern directing some anti-Semitic SEIU thugs to beat Lieberman's ass while asking him what kind of Jew he is?

B+

Posted by: Bust of Obama at December 14, 2009 10:17 AM (8/DeP)

56

19: yeah, I expect McCaskill to demand a Missouri Compromise sort of bribe in order to get her vote. She is eyeing what Landrieu got, and wants more

 

 

Posted by: eddiebear at December 14, 2009 10:18 AM (wnU1W)

57 Suppose the Dems strip Lieberman of his chairmanship.  If it gets too bad, then Joe joins his old friends McCain and Graham as a Republican and screws the 60-40 thing completely.  I think this is the real reason the Dems have not given him the old heave-ho.  If the Republicans get the Senate back in 2010 or 2012, Joe gets his chair back as a reward, since he is dependably conservative on this one topic of killing terrorists, as Britt says

Posted by: CroakerNorge at December 14, 2009 10:18 AM (w9iIl)

58 Mr. Pink at December 14, 2009 02:13 PM (SqAkN) I got guys here so sick they wouldn't be allowed in a hospital, but because of those Tea Partiers, they have to suit up and go to a presser. And one more thing: Motherfucker, we were the good guys!

Posted by: Doc Steele at December 14, 2009 10:19 AM (4Kl5M)

Posted by: eddiebear at December 14, 2009 10:19 AM (wnU1W)

60 We will break glass bones wind if needed

FIFY

Posted by: Madam Pelosi at December 14, 2009 10:19 AM (ZtwUX)

61 Bart Gordon is my representative, and I'm thrilled he's retiring.  There are currently about 4/5 republicans gunning for the seat, and the dems don't have a chance in hades in getting one of them elected to it.

I wrote him back during the whole Porkulus vote and Crap N Tax - got back a ridiculous form e-mail in return.


Posted by: Intrepid at December 14, 2009 10:21 AM (92zkk)

62 When I read over at HA about the sneaky tactics of putting stuff in like limits on payments of claims for people who are really sick, i.e., rationing, only put in evasive language, it made me wonder if some who are proponents of ChappaCare really know everything about the bill.  Surely some of them, or even they themselves, have a family member or someone they know with a serious disease who would be affected by this. 

Posted by: TheresaD at December 14, 2009 10:22 AM (iGCmo)

63 Err....the dems don't have a chance in hades getting elected to Gordon's seat, meaning they won't be able to hold it.  Not that the dems won't get the republican elected.

Sheesh - I need more coffee.

Posted by: Intrepid at December 14, 2009 10:22 AM (92zkk)

64 We had a short-timer once. Daschle I-forget-his-name. He wore a flak jacket, two helmets and armor underwear. 2004 elections... your time's up, your time *is* up.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 14, 2009 10:23 AM (SqAkN)

65 BTW, if you would like to give Harry Reid a kick in the nuts, Ted Kennedy's seat is up for special election. Vote Scott Brown for Senate on January 19.

Posted by: fluffy at December 14, 2009 10:23 AM (4Kl5M)

66 Ya know... I never thought it would be this much fun to watch the Dem explode on a weekly basis.. AFTER getting a majority in the Senate and the House and a Dem President..

Whoda thunk it?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 14, 2009 10:24 AM (f9c2L)

67

And the NutRoots are now going after his wife, Hadassah.

But hey, she's just another evil Jooo(ess).

Posted by: speedster1 at December 14, 2009 10:27 AM (v40Bj)

68 Will someone please tell me why the RNC didn't run a good (R) candidate in a Republican-leaning district in Tennessee since 2000?


yoo hoo Mr. Steele ...... Hello .....Mr. Steele??.........

Posted by: GOP Red Phone Blinking at December 14, 2009 10:31 AM (r7Vc3)

69 Liberman ran as a Independent and won after being forced out of the primary by a screaming moonbat.

Specter ran as a Republican and took their money and support, and then switched sides. 

Yet Liberman is the "traitor".

Posted by: Xoxotl at December 14, 2009 10:32 AM (j88uA)

70 I said the same thing Xoxotl, but managed it with a Caddyshack quote.

B+ for me!!!

Posted by: CUS at December 14, 2009 10:33 AM (wOGfT)

71 I know Joe is a liberal big government guy on many issues, but I love his independence and his common sense ability to disregard party positions and do what he thinks is right for the country.  Imagine if all of our elected leaders thought for themselves and made decisions based on something other than what brings in the $$$ and power from the party.   

Posted by: California Red at December 14, 2009 10:33 AM (7uWb8)

Posted by: Kitteh at December 14, 2009 10:34 AM (NtiET)

73

And the NutRoots are now going after his wife, Hadassah.

But hey, she's just another evil Jooo(ess).

Posted by: speedster1 at December 14, 2009 02:27 PM (v40Bj)

Good idea -- let's see the Leftards refuse to give money for breast cancer research and treatment because of their spitefulness toward the Liebermans.  Because, as was demonstrated by the advice to cut mammograms for women in their forties, it's much more important to get the policy of nationalized health care than for actual women to receive actual health care.

Posted by: A gentle reader at December 14, 2009 10:39 AM (Ate22)

74 Yet Liberman is the "traitor".

Posted by: Xoxotl at December 14, 2009 02:32 PM (j88uA)

Well, duh!  Because Specter became good, while Lieberman is siding with those bad, evil, very not good Republicans.

To the Leftards, Lieberman is a traitor, Specter is a defector.

Posted by: stuiec at December 14, 2009 10:41 AM (Ate22)

75

#82: "it's much more important to get the policy of nationalized health care than for actual women to receive actual health care."

Exactly - it's all about power, not people.

 

Posted by: speedster1 at December 14, 2009 10:49 AM (v40Bj)

76

Harry Reid is the chihuahua who caught the car. Now he realises that the car happened to be in the slow lane at the time and that the thing is a Lambourghini.

They'll be picking bits of him from the Nevada desert for years.

Posted by: Zimriel at December 14, 2009 11:24 AM (9Sbz+)

77 To explain the metaphor a little better: I think Reid normally would want to lose some seats, because he's more interested in cruising along in the Senate with a 55 seat cushion than in a "French Revolution" (by contrast with Pelosi and the rest of her Progressive Caucus). But Reid is stuck because he knows that of all the seats at risk in '10, his own seat tops the list.

Posted by: Zimriel at December 14, 2009 11:30 AM (9Sbz+)

78

Don't take this the wrong way, Ace. I'm saying it for me, not so much you:  You are a supereme bullshit translator.  I've never come across another blogger who so consistently and concisely cuts to the idiotic truth of the liberal point, yet manages to also not offend my sensibilities in any other area as well.  I appreciate that.

Posted by: Traci at December 14, 2009 11:41 AM (TIomG)

79 Just catching up here and was going to compliment you on a great analysis, Ace.  But I don't think I can say it any better than Traci did above, so will just go with "dittos!"

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