1

Dear Grim Reaper,

So far this year you have taken away my favorite dancer Michael Jackson, my favorite actor Patrick Swayze, my favorite singer Stephen Gately and my favorite actress Farah Fawcett. I would like you to know, that my favorite politicians are Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.

 

Your Fan.

2 Our teeth are a good guide concerning proper diet. We have the teeth of an omnivore. Steak, potato, salad. Apple pie for dessert. Bacon for breakfast.

3 Don't forget the insane people who try to force their cats to become vegetarians. Now **there's** animal abuse...

4 I love vegetarians - more meat for me!

5 As I have said before, I only eat other cannibals.

6 If man were not meant to eat meat then why did God make Cows out of steak?

7 "alpha dog in your own house"

My newly teenaged son just had an object lesson in this about 20 minutes ago.

Much to his dismay.

and edification.

8 If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did He make them out of meat?

9 The only thing I purport is my deep seated concern that I can get filet mignon at an affordable price. This idiot is a total loon, and needs to find himself a good church. Your salvation doesn't lie in free ranging chickens, asshole .

10 >To go down this road is to stare headlong into an abyss that, to paraphrase Nietzsche, will ultimately stare back at you.  ask if you want fries with that


it's a bitch being at the top of the food chain, eh?

To all the animals on land and in the sea:

_{GET IN MAH BELLEH}

11 "And what are you?"
"I'm a cow."
"Get in the fucking truck"

12 Again, liberalism in all it's forms is a condition of the heart.  ANYTHING to replace God. 

Speaking of mother nature and her loving kindness, have you seen the video of the hyenas eating the wildebeest that had the misfortune of getting stuck in the mud and had no ability to defend itself? 

Or how about the Planet Earth videos (fng awesome vids, btw) and the great white sharks showing mad props to the sea lions?  Or the white wolf giving a shout out to the caribou calf? 

Yep, those animals sure treat each other with respect and dignity. 

13 To go down this road is to stare headlong into an abyss that, to paraphrase Nietzsche, will ultimately stare back at you.

I have an idea. Why don't you take a headlong flying f'n leap into that abyss, you emo git.

14 Millions of years of struggle to survive and prosper in a dangerous world, and we end up eating nothing but tofu and rice cakes. Eff that!

15 I have some chicken in the crock pot right now, and I feel so...unguilty.

16

 FFS, these people are not even the same species as us.

That pretty much sums up American politics in the 21st century.

17 effing sock puppets

18

These assholes need to be predated until they are extinct; it's nature's way.

Seriously, this nonsense needs to be mocked and fought with all out might or eventually veganism will be forced upon us. We can no longer 'live and let live' with these people.

19
Steiner will be happy to know that in the coming apocalypse and collapse of our once great nation, I will be very kind to him and treat him with the utmost dignity and respect.

Right before I saw him into little tiny pieces and eat him.

20

Stop and think of the vegans you personally know......... now tell me which of them isn't as crazy as a shit house rat?

I just sayin....

 

21 Chicken poetry sucks anyway.

22 @8: that's a profound point. Scientists claim human evolution turned toward modern Man when sapiens first began to eat meat. Protein powered the growth of the human brain. If so, then on liberas' own "scientific" terms, demanding Homo Sapiens abstain from meat is... Anti Human.

23 To be an extreme vegan is to deny your humanity. We are only human because our ancestors ate cooked meat with its abundant calories and nutrients, and evolved into larger brained smarter humanoids. It wasn't that many years ago we actually did have to kill and butcher the animals with our tools and hands. There is nothing so good and satisfying to consumer as fresh grilled meat and a beer. It's in our DNA.

24 So, what you're saying is: I'm only your friend when you want to make fun of the stupid Christianists? 'Cause, buddy, I'm an all-or-nothing kinda guy. You don't get to pretend that your selective "morals" over-ride my millions of years of work, my finest masterpiece.

Your call.

25 it was eating meat that allowed early humanoids to grow bigger brains and figure out that it was pretty fucken hot in Africa so hey let's move where it's a little cooler and dude put some pants on! you're makin us all sick we're trying to eat some delicious animals here hey what's that big black shiny buzzing thing?

26

Just this very afternoon, I supped upon the marriage of Prime Rib of Beef, Kosher Salt, and fire.

QED

27 How do they know plants feel no pain? How would you detect it, measure it? Sometimes I think I hear carrots scream, but then I say, "Nah". *chop* *chop* *chop*

28 I wonder if vegans could be made into really good jerky? I mean, most of them are pretty stringy, so that's about all they would be good for, right?

29 Weren't the Eco-nuts telling us cow farts contribute to global warming? By eating steaks and burgers I'm just helping out the environment.

30 <sup>3 Don't forget the insane people who try to force their cats to become vegetarians. Now **there's** animal abuse...

Posted by: Realist</sup>

Let's not forget the same ones who do it for dogs. My golden gets a well rounded diet complete with lots of protein and all the deer poop she can find and eat.

31 My daughter's dog likes apples and some veggies. Of course, then she craps like a goose.

32 Am I the only one who cracks up when they see vegans loading up on "meat substitutes" that taste like cardboard, gawdawful "soy cheese" and fake milks made out of heaven-knows-what? 

No wonder they are perpetually pissy.  That stuff tastes like shit. 

33 As the great Doc Nickle says "Vegetables are what food eats."

34 No wonder they are perpetually pissy.  That stuff tastes like shit.

Hey, hey, let's not get carried away now.

35

eman,

I used to have a pooch that would eat grapes, carrots, raw taters, etc. However, if you put a plate of that stuff down beside a plate of bacon he went for the bacon. He knew what was best in life.

36 24...yep...these wackos can't have it both ways. 

Either we're products of mass/random evolution and therefore should not be held to any standards higher than those of say, wild dogs and roaches.   Or, we've been put here by a God who gave us dominion and stewardship over the earth. 

Not a lot of middle ground. 

Of course, B to the O, invokes faith when it's appropriate for his statist fantasies. 

37 I'd bet 5 bucks that if you were to lock that person in a room with a cat, a bottle of Val-U-Rite, and a blowtorch, they'd be eating feline flambé within 3 days.

38

I am quite sure it's "ethical vegan" wussies who don't know how to be parents.  Them and their slighty less pure and virtuous brethren, the sanctimonious nanny staters, diversity whores and tolerance apparatchiks.

Having been raised with the belt of fatherly disapproval, and knowing that Dad and Mom, not to mention all the Grandpas and Grandmas, Aunts, Uncles, teachers, preachers etc. knew best; I was quite prepared to take a turn as a parent and not an apologetic social director for another generation of kids.  It worked out quite well, too, but of course I must admit that bacon played a prominent role.

39 We slaughter 53 billion animals a year. That means we raise 53 billion animals a year. Steiner wants us to stop doing that. In other words, the only way to show how much you care about animals, is to prevent 53 billion of them from being born. Every year. This ethical stuff is hard.

40

These vegans only go half-way.  They need to realize that plants are living things too.  What, they think an apple tree works all year long to produce the seeds of it's offspring just so some chump vegan can come along and eat them, wiping out an entire generation in one fell chomp?  They should stick to, um, salt or something.  Long as they don't kill anything in the getting of it. 

41 Speaking of eating animals alive:
http://tinyurl.com/ydatrj9

42 "Either we're products of mass/random evolution and therefore should not be held to any standards higher than those of say, wild dogs and roaches." Not really. Not every evolutionary trick is based on some sort of savagery. Nice things evolved, too. Things like altruism and sharing and co-operation. And we are not the only animals that use such things.

43 43, Living yeast are baked alive! "Mommy, why is it getting so hot?"

44 Soy products are feminizing. No wonder so many libs are passive agressive bitch made she-boys.

45

Hmm...do these people realize that human evolution and brain size had everything to do with eating large quantities of protein from animals.

 

46 So, the fact is, our food animals have entered into a bargain with us.

We make sure that their genes survive for as long as humans survive, in return, they become our food.

Seems like a good bargain for them. Our parasites don't get it so lucky. We actively try to exterminate them.

47

The best tasting veggies in the world are those that are simmered in bacon fat.

Bacon--It makes everything better.

48 If we didn't eat chickens, they'd have gone extinct a long time ago. 

Nasty, stupid things, but great on a bun.

49 The fact that pigs are made out of pork proves that they're designed to be eaten. 

50 I'd bet 5 bucks that if you were to lock that person in a room with a cat, a bottle of Val-U-Rite, and a blowtorch, they'd be eating feline flambé within 3 days.
 Posted by: theBman

Winner

51 How many insects were mass murdered so that this assclown could eat a salad?

52 And what about fish? They're made out of seafood, for cryin' out loud!

53

"People who are ethical vegans believe that differences in intelligence between human and non-human animals have no moral significance whatsoever. The fact that my cat canÂ’t appreciate SchubertÂ’s late symphonies and canÂ’t perform syllogistic logic does not mean that I am entitled to use him as an organic toy, as if I were somehow not only morally superior to him but virtually entitled to treat him as a commodity with minuscule market value."

If he's an "ethical vegan", what the hell is he doing exercising dominion and ownership over another animal?

54 as well as a panoply of cosmetics and medications.

The author is clearly not using a medication it desperately needs.

55 That settles it , venison sausage and fresh eggs in the morning .
My brain needs all the help it can get .

56 Jim, cats exercise dominion over humans.  Unless he's feeding it a vegan diet; then the poor beast is just lying around wishing for death.

57 My neighbor has chickens that free range all over my backyard and lawn all day.  Every once in a while a hawk or osprey will swoop down and snatch one of the baby chicks or one of the feral cats in the neighborhood nails one.

58 "People who are ethical vegans believe that differences in intelligence between human and non-human animals have no moral significance whatsoever"

I have to wonder if this guy is pro-choice, and if so, whether he sees the enormous contradiction inherent in his views.

59 I buy free range chickens, etc. because it's more like organic, not because I want my dinner to have lived a happy life.   Why can't these people just eat their veggies and let everyone else eat what they want to?

60

Why can't these people just eat their veggies and let everyone else eat what they want to?

Because they are control freaks.

61 58 Jim, cats exercise dominion over humans.  Unless he's feeding it a vegan diet; then the poor beast is just lying around wishing for death.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 22, 2009 10:43 PM (OkT2m)

Au contraire mon cheri, them kitties need us for something or they wouldn't have hung around long enough to become domesticated. We fill a need for them, if even a free lunch, but they need us too on some other level or they would just strike out on their own at the first chance they got.

62 The really funny thing about "ethical vegans" is that they'd shriek in horror if anyone else tried to push their religious dietary restrictions on society.

63 Au contraire mon cheri, them kitties need us for something or they wouldn't have hung around long enough to become domesticated. We fill a need for them, if even a free lunch, but they need us too on some other level or they would just strike out on their own at the first chance they got.

Cats hung around people because people attracted rats, crows, and other small prey. 

On the other hand, I am convinced that dogs and mankind co-evolved. It's unnatural for people to be without dogs.

64

I gots a special place for all of God's creatures..

Right next to mah mashies....

  ....

65 I have yet to meet a healthy-looking vegan.

66 Remember the lesson of 2001; After the monkeys touched the monolith and became smart the first thing they did was invent the club, which they used to kill and eat the tapirs. They then used it to beat the shit out of the vegan monkeys, take their water hole. They then went on to conquer the world! Omnivores Rule!

67 60 I have to wonder if this guy is pro-choice, and if so, whether he sees the enormous contradiction inherent in his views.

The difference you, simpleton lies in sentience. A chicken doesn't want to be your dinner, but a fetus doesn't care either way whether he's born, aborted, harvested for stem cells or ground up to be used in a skin cream. You can't even really say that an infant is sentient or even a human. If a building were on fire and a mouse and and an infant were trapped inside, I wouldn't hesitate to save the mouse.

Now if you'll excuse me, I think I'll go in the other room and partake in the delight that is the aroma of my own wind. Aaaaaaaaah

68 If I wasn't meant to eat meat, why did I get a set of canine teeth in my mouth?

69

Veganism is ome more reason Lefties are always ugly and angry.

70

#67

I work with a vegan. He is six years younger than I am (I'm 57), he looks like he's 65, he exhibits no sense of physical energy whatsoever. He is always lamenting about how tired and run down he feels. His doctor advised him to eat just four ounces of lean red meat per week--the doc swore it would make him feel better. His response was to change doctors.

71 "To go down this road is to stare headlong into an abyss that, to paraphrase Nietzsche, will ultimately stare back at you."

No, the ultimate is when the abyss stares out of you.

Then you start writing for the NY Times.

72 I believe in treating animals well because it makes them more delicious when their time comes.

Nothing complicated.

73 Vegan's I know a few and of course they're all LEFTISTS think they're "Saving the World" and that we're on the brink of destruction. I'm waiting for the Global Warming Scandal to sink it - it sort of takes away a peg of "We're saving the planet by not eating meat" when there was no there, there to start with. Ok who am I fooling? Never happen but a guy can dream. Pass the bacon!

74

I read somewhere recently the nicknames some fastfood places have for their off-the-menu items you can order "if you ask".

One was a Veggieburger --- with bacon.

The employees call it a "Hypocrite". 

 

75 I dated a girl that went vegan during the relationship (she understood there was no way I would ever do so).  Only later did I make the connection that that's when she started going out of her mind.

76

We on the right are going the wrong way on this - we keep talking about how those vegans need to leave us normal people alone.

We need to push "ethical omni- abstentionism."  (Feel free to come up with a better name)

Plants are people too.  That carrot and that apple have Feelings.  And Families. And Children.  How can us heartless humans, in our arrogant perch atop the food chain, just take all the plants we want for food?  Truly ethical people will not eat ANYTHING!

It's dumb enough to catch on, for at least a couple of weeks.  And the serious whackos will stick to it until they die.  I don't see a down side. 

77 It's not a fully developed thought, but here's the way of it -- veganism is the current-day equivalent of the hairshirt. As you know, monks of the dark ages wore horsehair shirts precisely because it chafed and itched and made them feel bad and it was a way that they could show their revulsion towards their own appetites and feel a sense of moral control. Veganism is the same way -- it's a choice that really does nothing except inflict agony on the self, for the purposes of expressing/feeling a degree of contempt.

78 So, if one does not have the misfortune/stupidity to be a strict vegan and write for the NYTs, does the addition of apple juice to a turkey brine really improve the flavor that much? Or would apple cider be a better choice?

79 So what are we supposed to do with all those cows that are causing global warming?

80 How could that goofy invasion list leave out the Fenian invasion of Canada?

81 I once heard vegans are crunchy and good with ketchup, but I'd imagine they'd be more like celery: stringy, tasteless and brittle.

82

I might not agree with it, but I can understand various forms of vegetarianism undertaken on the belief that it is healthier without red meat, all meat, no meat or fish, etc. But the "moralist" Vegans are another deal that I oppose for these reasons...

I understand that farming kills thousands of animals, like gophers and groundhogs, accidentally every year. (And not farmers purposefully killing the varmints, but just running over them or digging through them with the ploughs or harvesters.) Are those "good" murders or justifiable homicide?

The other thing about these assholes is that if everyone in the world went radical vegan, we wouldn't have any need to raise farm food animals at all so all the pigs, cows & cattle, sheep and food fowl would all be fucking DEAD or DIED OFF so you wouldn't be saving animal lives that are just as important [sic] as human lives!

Also, like bears, we're omnivores. For us to ignore meat eating is as unnatural as cows eating meat or lions eating wheat.

I also see no philosophical defence of it. If we're higher than the animals, as with Judeo-Christian beliefs, then they're here for us to exploit. If we're not and we're just another animal, then we can behave like the animals that we are and eat what Nature designed us to eat.

83 I'm thinking the vegans would be passable eating if you wrapped them in enough bacon.

84 Vegans.  The Other White Meat.

85

For those who worry about the pain and cruelty of slaughter, there's always the kosher route. There are very specific guidelines about the process of killing livestock and the hygiene of the kosher slaughterhouses typically far exceed those imposed by the health department.

Of course, you never hear PETA suggesting kosher as, c'mon, is cruelty really their main concern? No.  Of course, not.

They just want to take every opportunity possible to comdemn what the rest of society is doing.

86

"Actually, I tend to be more concerned with trolling the meat department looking for the choicest bits, closest to their expiration date because then they will be marked down and I can buy and gnaw on them"

 

Ji,bo, youre on the right track I do the same but for a different reason.

The older meat is the better meat. As time marches on, enzymes in the meat eat away at the connective tissues and naturally tenderize the meat. Tis is called aging and it's a good thing. If the meat is left unwrapped (and refrigerated), it starts to dry out. this removes flavorless water and concentrates the flavors. Just cut off the hard meat on the surface. This is commonly done as dry aging.

Look for the old meat, yumm!

87 What a maroon.  I liked laptop battery guy so much better.

88 Vegan pussies.

89 Vegans drive vegetarians up the damn wall.  I know, I was a vegetarian once....got sick to death of their lecturing about how evil cheese, honey and anything and everything was, and went out of my way to eat that stuff in front of one of those whiners every chance I got.  Of course, she was my boss, so no wonder I didn't get promoted at that place..... 

They are what happens when a three year old with food rules never grows up.

90 Ah, I remember the day I friend of mine (vegan, female, cute) thought to perplex me into agreeing with her asking the "gotcha question" after I ordered a burger...

Do you think you could kill a cow?

Well, giving this half a moment's thought, I had a long rambling answer.

Yeah; I mean I assume either its in an enclosure, or I have a weapon or something.  I doubt I can bring down Bessy with my bare hands, but either in a pen with a sledge or machete; or with a gun sure.  I'd probably do a bit better with a machete, but it isn't going to be the cleanest kill ever.  I've got a better than vague concept of what constitutes a killing blow to a 4-legged hoofed critter.  I assume running it over is out.

 Or was this some sort of a challenge?  I mean, I can probably find one but it may take me a day or two to set this up; how long have I got for this?  Can you clarify the rules here?

I don't think this was how the conversation went in her mind when she planned this.  At least, from the look on her face as she heard my answer; this wasn't what she expected.

As for this article... dipshit, what does "your cat" eat? You whine that he isn't an organic toy; have you ever seen your cat corner a mouse or insect?  Did you lecture it about the value of all life?  Did it listen to your philosophical bullshit, or just ignore you?

Mind if I follow your cat's lead and ignore you as well?  I'd lick my balls at you if I could.

91 This reminds me of an article I read last week on giving cats a raw diet.  By raw diet, I mean cats do not naturally eat vegetables.  They like to eat meat.  Tasty, tasty fresh meat they kill themselves.  They chomp up all of it, including little mouse bones.  That's what millions of years of evolution made them into - mousing, meat eating machines (also bunnies, chipmunks, etc.)

So we put them in our homes and make them eat pate filled with barley.  Try to imagine a cat in the wild going for a barley snack.

So I won't get into the details of making raw cat food - not because it is gross but because my fellow carnivores who have ever hunted or prepared meat that wasn't already boneless & skinless already know the details.

But the idea of it was so obvious.  How do the vegans not see this in relation to humans?

I bet they are feeding their cats tofu & barley  pate right now.

92 Whoa Gekkobear - freaky cat diet synchronicity.  I think I need a shot of Rumplemintz lol

93 I can solve both the vegan and the alpha dog problem at the same time. If your kids misbehave, eat them. You get protein and the survivors treat you with absolute respect. For the squeamish, I suppose that when they act up you could just tell your kids that you ate one of their siblings in the past. If they don't believe you offer them a piece of "homemade" jerky.

94 Glenn, I LIKE your squeamish solution.  I once asked a woman whose child was terrorizing a bunch of unrelated (and pissed off adults) why she hadn't eaten him yet.  Got rid of the two of them.

95 BTW, what problem do vegans have with wool?  Sheep get into mite trouble if their wool isn't sheared.

96 "I have to wonder if this guy is pro-choice, and if so, whether he sees the enormous contradiction inherent in his views.

Posted by: Angry Beaver at November 22, 2009 10:46 PM (XFrSe)"

That's a negative on #2, Captain.

97 I honestly forget the philosopher who stated this, but I find it is an excellent ethical rule to follow: actions towards animals only have ethical value in terms of how they affect human beings.

It comes down to the simply point that animals do not have rights, because they have no responsibilities. If animals did have rights, then, as Uncle Jimbo alludes to, we would need to arrest and try wolves whenever they fell a deer. Rights apply only to human beings, and so the ethical treatment of animals must reference human beings.

Ironically, by declaring meat verbotten, animal rights activists are reducing the value of animals to human beings, and thus, by the above maxim, making ethical rules regarding the treatment of animals less strict, not more. The mass slaughter of bison would not have been an ethical concern if no one ate them.

98 The difficult part: You just havenÂ’t lived until youÂ’ve tried to function as a strict vegan in a meat-crazed society.

I think a lot of vegans' societal problems would be reduced if so many of the ones that talk about it weren't insufferable douchebags.  I mean, when someone walks up to you in a restaurant and starts berating like you're a nazi for having a steak after having worked for 12 hours with only one bathroom break, you tend to just start thinking that it's time to punch them in the face (this has happened to me once, and I've also had a couple of now-former friends rail on about me being at the meat counter when we've encountered each other at the grocery).

99

A member of my lunch-room group at work is a vegetarian; she's the most anemic, low-energy person I know. Some days she looks positively grey, and her complexion is sallow and spotty at best.

And I sit there with my beans and turkey ham that I simmered for eight solid hours, so that the broth is this thick reduced meaty (psuedo-)hammy liquid, and just chow. Down. And look! I have energy! Which means that when the SHTF and we're all reduced to cannibalism, I won't have any trouble hunting her down and eating her.

She also had palpitations when she saw my pocketknife. I hate to think what would happen if she took a closer look at the stickers on my car.

100

Vegans amuse the hell out of me. ItÂ’s only in this technological 21^st century wonder world they could even exist.

 

If you meet one, ask then how they regard animals killing other animals for food, and how ‘humane’ it is when a lion, hyena or wolf takes down their prey. And don’t forget to remind them how some animals eat their prey while it’s still alive.

101 MEAT IS MURDER!

tasty, tasty murder.

(Stolen from a T-shirt)

102

Has anyone told this person that vegtables give up thier lives for his/her/its meal????

103 There is no ethics. Only politics.

104

It's no use trying to reason with people like that; they are quite beyond reason as witnessed by their lifestyle choices.  We're talking people who won't vaccinate their kids (and sometimes pets) because the vaccines are cultivated on animal tissue (like, unfertilized, egg yolk) -- this puts the rest of us (and animals too, oh so concerned for the critters vegan gits) at risk, but hey, their sensitivities and "ethics" are stroked!

Stupid, stupid, stupid -- and you can't beat stupid.  Oy!

105 Hey, I'm as vegan as any other South American human fat collector.

106 I would like Gary Steiner to try educating a pack of wild hyenas about the wrongness and immorality of hunting and eating animal prey. Up close and personal. Then there'll be one less Gary Steiner in the world (the bleeping idiot who wrote the op-ed article).

107 This is Gary's website: http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/gsteiner/ Give him philosophical hell?

108 Vegans, how can they be so barbaric,how can they live with themselves. They rip the ovaries from the living, they eat them raw, steamed ,boiled, etc. Then, they do over and over again, from the same living entity. Sucking the life from a living thing, absolutely barbaric. Eating raw ,fresh ovaries ,how absolutely disgusting !

109 Are Ugg boots made of leather? MURDERERS!!!

110 That's ... not quite how ovaries work, Ed. I get your point, but ... basic anatomy, man!

111

we used to raise "free range" chickens. They sreved two really important functions. First, the kept the insect level down in the yard. Second, they provide good target practice for the kids.

"What's for dinner tonight dad?"

"tofu"

"But I hate tofu!"

"There's the .22, go get me a chicken"

Now that they are in the military we keep the chickens in a pen. Makes them easier to shoot

112 I think Dennis Leary put it best: "A sandwich is a sandwich but a Manwich is a meal, and meat is murder, and murder is pretty damn tasty."

113 Do you realize how many boll weevils are senselessly slaughtered so you can sport your "Meat is Murder" 100% cotton T?

114 The vegans are leftover communists. It is no accident that these people started cropping up (if you will pardon the pun) when the Soviet Empire fell apart. They want us first to *eat* like we live under Pol Pot, then they will try to impose the rest of that kind of rule.

115

But beyond that, I wonder if this vegan fool has any idea how many cute little rodents are killed every season by the simple plowing of the fields, just so he can get his veggies.

 

 

116

Things like altruism and sharing and co-operation. And we are not the only animals that use such things.

Really, that depends on your perspective.

Do you think the gazelle calls it cooperation, or conspiracy?

Conspiracy to commit murder is such a nice and fuzzy thing.

117

67 I have yet to meet a healthy-looking vegan.

or a happy one.

118

I'm a Christian, so I believe that God gave man dominion over the animals. Which means that I'm allowed to eat them.

But say I wasn't a Christian, would I not essentially believe that man is an animal? And if that was true, then what would be the problem with eating another animals--is that not what other carnivorous animals do?

119

How do they know plants feel no pain?

How would you detect it, measure it?

Sometimes I think I hear carrots scream, but then I say, "Nah".

*chop* *chop* *chop*

There was a guy named Martin Reiser. He was a LAPD police psychologist and polygrapher. He claimed to have hooked up polygraphs to plants and recorded a "response" when a plant leaf was torn, or flames got near it, and the like.

120

So we put them in our homes and make them eat pate filled with barley.  Try to imagine a cat in the wild going for a barley snack.

Well... I dunno about cats honestly.

But dogs (as mentioned above) and many other "carnivores" are not strict carnivores. I doubt cats are either. Dogs do eat vegetables and in fact, must have some plants in their diet. Just not mostly. An 80% meat diet is definetly a carnivore but it's still 20% plants.

So yeah.. y'know... your dog goes outside and... eats grass. Grass is not meat. Because they ain't got enough vegetables or fiber in their diet for their liking and grass tastes good to dogs apparently.

They'll wolf down veggies. Which ones depends on the dog. I got one now that's absolutely gonzo for fresh tomatos and also very found of carrot peels.

It's good for them to have some vegetables or fruits... just not too much or to the exclusion of meat.

121

Catnip, I think, is a plant.

At least I've never seen one running around.

122

I think a lot of vegans' societal problems would be reduced if so many of the ones that talk about it weren't insufferable douchebags.  I mean, when someone walks up to you in a restaurant and starts berating like you're a nazi

Hitler was a vegetarian--not kidding.

123 The upstairs neighbor is a fat vegan.  How did that happen??

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I got to this post too late to read all 128 comments, so if you said this, my apologies:

Why is it that these "ethical" (yes, these are scare quotes) people who would not touch the meat from any animal, much less leather, are so willing to kill the unborn human?  It doesn't make any sense to me at all.  Maybe if we were somehow to become cannibals and eat a few of the aborted babies, these nut roots idiots would begin to protest abortion?  Such stupidity deserves such stupid comments, so don't jump on my a$$.

125 I could run this guy Stener over and not even feel the bump.

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Gary looks sick...http://tinyurl.com/Gary-looks-sic

 

 

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"Vegetarian" is  an  old  native  American word.

It  means "bad hunter".  (Iss joke, eh)

128 I have no agreement at all with "ethical vegetarians" or morons who can't think through their "animals have rights" idiocy. But it's just another species of idiocy for 132 people to pretend they're all going caveman and natural by eating meat. Out of the 132, about 70 will die of some heart disease---brought on in about 70 of the 70 cases by a diet based on meat. Yeah, you're all natural and cavemen, eating what nature intended for you to eat----cows made of steak! That's how you got your big brains, which apparently haven't got the capacity to comprehend what the huge amounts of protein do to your kidneys and bones, and the huge amounts of fat and cholesterol do to your veins, arteries, heart, and brain. My favorite: "We got our brain by eating massive quantities of meat." Uh, that's actually a groundless speculation by someone who, like many above, just have a knee-jerk reaction to vegetarianism.

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