December 16, 2009
— DrewM Lots of rioting lefties, pissed off third world 'leaders' not happy with how their extortion attempts are going and the French are whining.
Seriously, does it get any better than this?
“Collapsing in chaos” is a phrase the media is using to describe the Copenhagen climate conference, and that certainly is the feeling among many here at the Bella Center....Substantively, it looks as though little has been accomplished towards binding emissions targets to replace the expiring provisions in the existing Kyoto Protocol. The reason is simple - reducing carbon dioxide emissions is prohibitively expensive. The citizens of none of the 192 nations represented here really want this done to them. Certainly not Americans, whose concern for global warming is plummeting while concern for the economy and jobs remains high. Not the Europeans whose words are rarely backed up by actions- many have not reduced their emissions under Kyoto yet are asking for tougher targets here. And not developing nations who insist on being exempted from any binding targets while demanding aid packages in the hundreds of billions annually, well above anything the developed world is willing to offer.
France's ambassador to this Rogue's Gallery is learning the same lesson a lot of liberals here in the US are...Obama may talk their language but He's not willing to put Himself on the line.
In an interview, Brice Lalonde said the progress of negotiations is "not good," and complained that the U.S. has been too "defensive" throughout the summit. While praising the Obama administration's moves to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, he criticized the U.S. for not coming to the summit with a long-term proposal for financing efforts in the developing world to fight climate change...."Some door has to be opened on long-term financing, and it has to be opened here," Mr. Lalonde said. He conceded that the Obama administration's negotiating position is constrained by the U.S. Senate's decision to delay action on climate legislation until next spring. But he said, "we all have problems with our senates and parliaments."
"We understand [President Obama] has a smart tactic, which is to never hassle the Congress," Mr. Lalonde said. "But he must nevertheless speak to the American people. He must convince them that [passing climate legislation] is important."
In fairness, I'm sure Obama would love to transfer large amounts of wealth to the rest of the world. The problem is, He maybe a God but He's not a king and He needs the Senate to act. Turns out many senators are only willing to commit political suicide once and they are going with health care not climate change.
Still, Obama is scheduled to show up at the circus on Friday so there's still a chance He'll screw things up but let's be honest, his track record in Copenhagen isn't that great.
Somewhat related, House Democrats are beginning to notice their colleagues in the other body are hanging them out to dry.
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They still hate us, but God, how they love OUR MONEY!
Posted by: GarandFan at December 16, 2009 08:32 AM (ZQBnQ)
Posted by: runninrebel at December 16, 2009 08:33 AM (i3PJU)
Pay the pieces of shit off in Zimbabwe bucks.
The guy from Sudan (first name - Lumumba, believe it or not) wanted a trillion dollar shakedown?
Sure - I have a 100 trillion dollar note printed in Harare.
I'll send that to 'Mumbie.
Posted by: TexasJew at December 16, 2009 08:33 AM (EdTc9)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at December 16, 2009 08:33 AM (qPu42)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 16, 2009 08:35 AM (SqAkN)
I think it is deeply indicative of how even then enviroleft really feels about their claims of a coming eco-apocalypse that they haven't even considered serious voluntary carbon reductions and even find the idea to be something of a joke.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2009 08:36 AM (7BU4a)
Obama will come riding in on his white horse and save the day.
Or at least that's what will be reported.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at December 16, 2009 08:36 AM (sXLx/)
He must convince them that [passing climate legislation] is important.
That well is a bit, ummm, not moist at the moment.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2009 08:38 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: negentropy at December 16, 2009 08:38 AM (27KAF)
Unfortunately for us, Barry and crew will probably see this as a crisis that must be taken advantage of or...
PEOPLE WILL DIE!
Which, ironically enough for the climate crazies, should be seen as good news.
You know, this climate science shit is harder than it looks. I just can't figure my new colleagues out.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 16, 2009 08:38 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 16, 2009 12:35 PM (SqAkN)
No enemies on the left. Middle of the road leftists, like the people in the State Media, see far leftists as idealists to be lauded.
And this is actually a serious problem for we conservatives.
Meanwhile conservatives argue with each other, constantly, over everything. And you'll see the like of Brooks bashing the "far right" with as much gusto as leftists do.
Well, guess what, if you are right of center, even slightly, you need those far right people to balance out all the leftwingers, especially now.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2009 08:40 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2009 12:31 PM (NtiET)
All that matters is they are trying to save Gaia! If it takes limos and private planes, riots and destruction to do it. The left will do it!
Posted by: TheQuietman at December 16, 2009 08:41 AM (1Jaio)
Why require a middle man? We're not bankable anyways. Go direct! Get the funds from China. Hell, China's monopolizing the third world's natural resource production already, and is producing the CO2 through this process throughout the third world. Strip mining for copper in Africa? China. Oil development in Nigeria? China.
Posted by: Flyover Sam at December 16, 2009 08:42 AM (7r7wy)
Posted by: Penfold at December 16, 2009 08:42 AM (lF2Kk)
We had a president who was willing to put himself on the line, everyday. And everyone hated him for it.
Posted by: Thea at December 16, 2009 08:43 AM (/3dGX)
The guy from Sudan (first name - Lumumba, believe it or not) wanted a trillion dollar shakedown?
Sure - I have a 100 trillion dollar note printed in Harare.
I'll send that to 'Mumbie.
Posted by: TexasJew at December 16, 2009 12:33 PM (EdTc9)
I don't know, after watching Obama give his allies more then a trillion dollars, and working on a trillions more, should we be shocked foreign grifters have upped their goals too?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2009 08:43 AM (7BU4a)
What's the "carbon footprint" of dispersing a mob with tear gas, then hauling the remnant off to the pokey?
Isn't pepper spray natural, biodegradable, and more sustainable?
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at December 16, 2009 08:44 AM (sXLx/)
The demented whining on display by the UK moonbats over at the Guardian is a heartening sign of how things are going...
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at December 16, 2009 08:46 AM (j6H6o)
What's the "carbon footprint" of dispersing a mob with tear gas, then hauling the remnant off to the pokey?
"Isn't pepper spray natural, biodegradable, and more sustainable?"
Or you could just throw some soap at them and watch em flee in terror.
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 16, 2009 08:46 AM (SqAkN)
Less than if they'd just dispersed the crowd with volleys of grapeshot.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 16, 2009 08:47 AM (ZJ/un)
Lefties protesting.
I've seen spin starting that Cap & Trade is really another big evil scheme from those evil greedy CORPORATIONS, like Enron, looking to build a new fake bubble now that the housing one (and before that, the dotcom) burst...
I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Weren't all the pro-redistributionists all for C&T because it would take money AWAY from big evil corporations and give it to the plucky young upstarts? Now all of a sudden it is now being "exposed" as another way for the big evil corporations to line their pockets? I guess GE / Universal's chickens are coming home to roost.
Posted by: reason at December 16, 2009 08:48 AM (XiVKO)
Because sometimes their hatred focuses on Israel.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 16, 2009 08:49 AM (ZJ/un)
His eminence, the Pope, has just declared man as the primary cause of the worlds ecological crisis. Great !
Posted by: Barbarian at December 16, 2009 08:49 AM (EL+OC)
Big carbon?
Big Climate?
Big Hockey Stick?
Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 16, 2009 08:50 AM (x4S2a)
Posted by: General Apathy at December 16, 2009 08:50 AM (T1boi)
No enemies on the left. Middle of the road leftists, like the people in the State Media, see far leftists as idealists to be lauded.
It's worse than that. Catch them in an unguarded/honest moment, and they'll admit their admiration for terrorists. It's just such a mark of distinction among them to be so committed to your cause you're willing to take the lives of others!
(see Che, Mumia, etc.)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 16, 2009 08:50 AM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: Warden at December 16, 2009 08:51 AM (lEqfY)
I've seen spin starting that Cap & Trade is really another big evil scheme from those evil greedy CORPORATIONS, like Enron, looking to build a new fake bubble now that the housing one (and before that, the dotcom) burst...
Posted by: reason at December 16, 2009 12:48 PM (XiVKO)
IIRC, Cap and Tax was an Enron scheme. They were unboard the AGW bandwagon from very early on. It always made me wonder how the left could sign on too, since supposedly Enron was the greatest criminal racket of all time - especially if you ignore WorldCom and left's close ties to Enron (see Krugman, Bill Clinton).
Posted by: 18-1 at December 16, 2009 08:52 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: stan at December 16, 2009 08:52 AM (JPz52)
The world hates a tease.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2009 08:53 AM (l1Wlr)
This is my favorite part. The author recognizes that the Eurotards are nothing but a bunch of pussies and poseurs who talk loudly and sanctimoniously, but when push comes to shove, they're nowhere to be found.
Come to think of it, that's more or less the Obama style. Cheap, gaseous rhetoric overlaying a business-as-usual core. No winder the Eurotards all like him.
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 16, 2009 08:53 AM (ySpdZ)
"I don't know, after watching Obama give his allies more then a trillion dollars, and working on a trillions more, should we be shocked foreign grifters donors have upped their goals too?"
FTFY...one laundered $15 Visa Gift Card at a time...
Posted by: reason at December 16, 2009 08:53 AM (XiVKO)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 16, 2009 08:53 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Warden at December 16, 2009 12:51 PM (lEqfY)
Actually, what is so wrong with hating children? Hating kitties though? That's what we need the re-education camps for.
Posted by: Zero Population Growth Guy at December 16, 2009 08:54 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2009 08:54 AM (1bQOq)
33 House Democrats kicked off 2009 by passing a huge economic stimulus package — only to watch it whittled down to win over three recalcitrant Republican senators.
Sometimes "democracy" is really annoying huh? If only the Democrats could figure out a way to not need any pesky Republicans, like if they could all be put in a camp far away where they could do no more harm.
BTW didn't this President run on a platform of bringing both parties together or did I just imagine that?
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 16, 2009 08:54 AM (SqAkN)
BTW didn't this President run on a platform of bringing both parties together or did I just imagine that?
He didn't mean it.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 16, 2009 08:55 AM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 16, 2009 12:53 PM (ySpdZ)
Technocracy and transnational progressivism is where it is at, beyatchs.
Posted by: Oswald Moseley at December 16, 2009 08:56 AM (7BU4a)
"Collapsing in chaos", I love that phrase.
Even if this is true, there will still be some stupid "historic" thingy signed at the end by Duh Won, even if it's just a tissue-thin agreement with a promise to meet again sometime.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at December 16, 2009 08:57 AM (9hSKh)
I heard the Real Lee Atwater said that. Can you verify? I have speech I'm writing to address kindergarteners.
Posted by: Ghost of Anita Dunn at December 16, 2009 08:58 AM (GtYrq)
Posted by: dagny at December 16, 2009 08:58 AM (Ahx0i)
He will then return to the States and get nothing. Just liker AL Bore and Kyoto except that time it was 96-0 against even bringing it to a vote.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2009 08:58 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Bill R. at December 16, 2009 08:59 AM (EhlQq)
It's not that they want our money. It's that they want to take it without giving anything in return.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 16, 2009 08:59 AM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: dagny at December 16, 2009 08:59 AM (Ahx0i)
49 I know this sounds nuts but take it in context: I really hate the world. Assholes. Assholes that want our money. Thieving assholes.
Hehe, calm down buddy. You can include a large portion of the 52%ers to that tally as well. Someone has to pay Peggy's mortgage and gas bills cause she sure as hell ain't going to. Just think of it as "forced donations", or "involuntary wealth transfers".
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 16, 2009 09:00 AM (SqAkN)
Mao
Castro
Chavez
...
The MSM leftists are pussies whose panties get wet over ruthless third world thug dictators because they brutally carry out policies they enthusiastically agree with, but are too cowardly to pick up the gun themselves. It's a lot more comfortable (and certainly a lot safer) to laud the revolution from a cubicle or shared office in the NY Times building then to be sweating in the jungle.
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 16, 2009 09:00 AM (ySpdZ)
Posted by: runninrebel at December 16, 2009 12:33 PM (i3PJU)
They already launched an ICBM at Norway, what more do you want?
Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 16, 2009 09:00 AM (UEEex)
http://tinyurl.com/yf244vp
Posted by: Thea at December 16, 2009 09:01 AM (/3dGX)
Posted by: Ashen at December 16, 2009 09:03 AM (Y2luV)
49 I know this sounds nuts but take it in context: I really hate the world. Assholes. Assholes that want our money. Thieving assholes.
What's nuts about that? Kowtowing to pygmies in pajamas and douchey elitist euroweenies is not my idea of a good time. The rest of the world can go to hell for all I care. Goddamned assholes.
Posted by: Truman North at December 16, 2009 09:05 AM (e8YaH)
No, you stupid sack of merde (presumably they're not wearing silk stockings any longer...) he must speak FOR the American people who, increasingly, say that the science of climate change needs delousing before we dare do anything based on it.
Posted by: mrkwong at December 16, 2009 09:05 AM (G8Eo0)
Meh. Derivatives are worse and nobody regulates them. When we tried to regulate them President Clinton backed Summers and Geithner and Rubin as they killed the hill bills in committee and shoved out the Clinton appointees that drafted the strategy for regulation.
Not that I think regulation would have been any better, but the derivatives market is a giant black hole of potential doom.
Cap N Trade to me is a way to create a regulatory environment that tries to stem the growth of derivatives and turn those into carbon trading contracts. If you look at where the derivatives originate(ADM, Cargill, Proctor and Gamble, Johnson and Johnson to name a few) you'll start to pick up the indicators that firms trying to "go green" are really desperate to create more value in CONTROLLED development in the third world. They need the resources in these markets, but they also want them to scrub with head & shoulders and sweeten with ADM corn.
Posted by: WTFCI at December 16, 2009 09:07 AM (GtYrq)
Signed,
All the little aces.
Posted by: The Stig of Cobloggers at December 16, 2009 09:08 AM (G8Eo0)
http://tinyurl.com/yf244vp
..."Can we remain indifferent before the problems associated with such realities as climate change, desertification," blah blah...
I'm not so sure he was taken out of context on this one.
Posted by: Barbarian at December 16, 2009 09:12 AM (EL+OC)
They already launched an ICBM at Norway, what more do you want?
To be fair to the Rooskies, the Norwegians are filthy Scandis and have it coming.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2009 09:15 AM (B+qrE)
63 That's right Mr. Obama, the world may love you but we think you suck. How's that goin' work out for you? Oh, and they're going to figure out that you aren't king, or messiah, or emperor or Ayatollah and you can't just hand over every dime we have to the shiftless, corrupt, stupid, trash of the world.
Signed,
Fouck off world
Posted by: dagny at December 16, 2009 09:18 AM (Ahx0i)
They already launched an ICBM at Norway, what more do you want?
Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 16, 2009 01:00 PM (UEEex)
Yeah, everyone is pretty quiet about that. Nary a peep from anyone. Bush did it!
Posted by: Johnnyreb at December 16, 2009 09:21 AM (y67bA)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2009 09:24 AM (l1Wlr)
Posted by: Seriously at December 16, 2009 09:42 AM (x0PK9)
Posted by: darin at December 16, 2009 09:47 AM (FKqP2)
"His eminence, the Pope, has just declared man as the primary cause of the worlds ecological crisis. Great !"
Given how much the leftards hate the Pope and the church, having B16 agree with them may well cause their heads to explode - like, say, Tim Burton's Martians hearing Slim Whitman.
Posted by: Brown Line at December 16, 2009 09:51 AM (VrNoa)
Why do I get the feeling that if somehow the US and other "rich" countries were able to reduce CO2 output to zero, it still wouldn't be good enough without billions or trillions being sent to corrupt third-world countries?
It's as if the entire "climate change" thing is about nothing more than money...
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 16, 2009 09:53 AM (rf03a)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 16, 2009 09:55 AM (vKdhq)
After that bit of nuttery, I'm surprised you didn't launch into a rant about the lizard people.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 16, 2009 09:55 AM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: Ace Pizza at December 16, 2009 10:04 AM (SPSOE)
Posted by: Joe at December 16, 2009 10:04 AM (YwBI6)
Posted by: dagny at December 16, 2009 10:05 AM (Ahx0i)
Posted by: Dead Horse at December 16, 2009 10:07 AM (SPSOE)
Posted by: Joe at December 16, 2009 10:11 AM (YwBI6)
Posted by: GarandFan at December 16, 2009 10:13 AM (ZQBnQ)
Posted by: B. Obama at December 16, 2009 10:19 AM (SPSOE)
Posted by: Dr. Al Gore, MD at December 16, 2009 10:22 AM (SPSOE)
Posted by: Neo at December 16, 2009 10:43 AM (tE8FB)
"Your sweat pants from walmart have a chip inside them than is readable up to 100' with a scanner and your individual pants have their own ID that links to you in a data base if you paid via debit or CC."
This is why I have a Faraday Cage around my junk at all times.
Posted by: reason at December 16, 2009 10:47 AM (XiVKO)
This state of affairs should have been foreseeable given the failure of “Cap-n-Tax” in the US Congress. We should have known that all of the West wasn’t really going to give the “developing” nations a “free lunch”; that’s solely the job of the US. With the “free lunch” off the table, they now must argue over “scraps.”
Posted by: Neo at December 16, 2009 10:48 AM (tE8FB)
Posted by: FURPC at December 16, 2009 10:58 AM (ZJ6KO)
Isn't tear gas poisonous and dangerous to the ozone layer?
I saw Stephen Harper burning in effigy. What's with that carbon waste?
Canada is well represented. That's the ecoacorns that went down with the Greenpeace ship and tried to stop the cruise missile tests with tennis nets.
All our oil we export is dirty oil. Harper has to be very careful. He dared to walk on the UN and they hate his guts.
Posted by: chicocano at December 16, 2009 11:07 AM (2n5cq)
Posted by: magnus magnusson at December 16, 2009 11:08 AM (SfpsN)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 16, 2009 11:17 AM (B83KH)
Posted by: Ace MacTavish at December 16, 2009 11:32 AM (554T5)
Posted by: Captain Atom at December 16, 2009 11:37 AM (2BCph)
And assholes like Seth are freezing in line where the UN tries to fit 45,000 attendees into a 15,000-person room. There's also a brief video at the link showing an AGW true believer admit that CRU's coding is crap (it's not the emails, it's the data).
Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2009 11:51 AM (2qU2d)
Posted by: GrumpyUnk at December 16, 2009 12:10 PM (Q2rYf)
..."Some door has to be opened on long-term financing, and it has to be opened here," Mr. Lalonde said.
In other words...I wanna lube job of millions of US tax-payer dollars, you fat, gready American bastards.
Posted by: dananjcon at December 16, 2009 12:47 PM (pr+up)
Posted by: Barry the Nobel Prize Winner at December 16, 2009 12:54 PM (mNUaF)
Posted by: jjs at December 16, 2009 12:55 PM (dvMRG)
Posted by: wth at December 16, 2009 01:01 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Son of a Pig and a Monkey at December 16, 2009 01:22 PM (RD17r)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 16, 2009 01:30 PM (vKdhq)
Posted by: Mark in Portland at December 16, 2009 01:59 PM (+45yf)
This was just a cluster fu*k to start with. There must be a half dozen different agendas going on there. The only common denominator is 'rape America'.
To paraphrase another blogger:
If you send a bunch of clowns to Hopenhagen, don't be surprised if a circus breaks out.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at December 16, 2009 03:26 PM (adr25)
We can't repel ball dipping of this magnitude!
(Sweet, sweet, schadenfreude. Is there ever a better dipping sauce?..)
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 16, 2009 03:56 PM (WDySP)
Posted by: sirsurfalot at December 16, 2009 04:06 PM (UPNlB)
@111: "surely a RICO investigation would be proper"
Nah, just just beat confessions out of them.
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Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2009 08:31 AM (NtiET)