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November 24, 2011

Happy Thanksgiving!
— Ace

As the time to eat approaches. Or, the time to start making sandwiches approaches, if you ate at 2.

Hey, Why Do Dallas and Detroit Always Play on Thanksgiving? Since I was a kid, it was always Dallas and Detroit (playing other teams, not each other).

I just looked up why on Wikipedia.

Football games being played on Thanksgiving day all the way back to 1887...
The first owner of the Lions, G.A. Richards, started the tradition of the Thanksgiving Day game as a gimmick to get people to go to Lions football games, and to continue a tradition begun by the city's previous NFL teams.
Several other NFL teams played regularly on Thanksgiving in first eighteen years of the league, including the Chicago Bears and Chicago Cardinals (1922-33; the Bears played the Lions from 1934 to 1938 while the Cardinals switched to the Green Bay Packers for 1934 and 1935), Frankford Yellow Jackets, and the New York Giants (1929Â–38, who always played a crosstown rival). During the Franksgiving controversy in 1939 and 1940, the only two teams to play the game were the Pittsburgh Steelers and Philadelphia Eagles, as both teams were in the same state (Pennsylvania). (At the time, then-president Franklin Roosevelt wanted to move the holiday for economic reasons and many states were resistant to the move; half the states recognized the move and the other half did not. This complicated scheduling for Thanksgiving games. Incidentally, the two teams were also exploring the possibility of a merger at the time.[3])

I never heard of the "Franksgiving" controversy. I'll put that up after the history of the Thanksgiving games.

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When the Thanksgiving games resumed in 1945, only one game would be played each year (except 1950 and 1952), and only the Lions would have a permanent Thanksgiving game. In 1951, the Packers resumed its regular role on Thanksgiving, becoming the perpetual opponent to the Lions each year through 1963.
In 1966, the Dallas Cowboys, who had been founded six years earlier, adopted the practice of hosting Thanksgiving games. It is widely rumored that the Cowboys sought a guarantee that they would regularly host Thanksgiving games as a condition of their very first one (since games on days other than Sunday were uncommon at the time and thus high attendance was not a certainty).
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The two "traditional" Thanksgiving Day pro football games have then been in Detroit and Dallas. Because of TV network commitments, to make sure that both the AFC-carrying network and the NFC-carrying network got at least one game each, one of these games was between NFC opponents, and one featured AFC-NFC opponents. Thus, the AFC could showcase only one team on Thanksgiving, and the AFC team was always the visiting team.

And then in 2006 the NFL network added the night game.

Now, about this "Franksgiving." God Do I Hate FDR. There's just always some new interference in people's lives, the more you look.

In August 1939, Lew Hahn, general manager of the Retail Dry Goods Association, warned Secretary of Commerce Harry Hopkins that the late calendar date of Thanksgiving that year (November 30) could possibly have an adverse effect on retail sales. At the time, it was considered bad form for retailers to display Christmas decorations or have "Christmas" sales before the celebration of Thanksgiving.

In keeping with a custom begun by Lincoln in 1863, U.S. Presidents had declared a general day of thanksgiving to be observed on the last Thursday in November. By late October of that year, President Roosevelt decided to deviate from this custom and declare November 23, the second-to-last Thursday, as Thanksgiving that year.[1]

The plan encountered immediate opposition. Alf Landon, Roosevelt's Republican challenger in the preceding election, called the declaration "another illustration of the confusion which [Roosevelt's] impulsiveness has caused so frequently during his administration. If the change has any merit at all, more time should have been taken working it out... instead of springing it upon an unprepared country with the omnipotence of a Hitler." While not all critics were political opponents of the president, most parts of New England (then a Republican stronghold relative to the rest of the nation) were among the most vocal areas. James Frasier, the chairman of the selectmen of Plymouth, Massachusetts (the commonly alleged location of the first Thanksgiving holiday) "heartily disapproved"
The short-notice change in dates affected the holiday plans of millions of Americans. For example, many college football teams routinely ended their seasons with rivalry games on Thanksgiving, and had scheduled them that year for the last day in November; some athletic conferences had rules permitting games only through the Saturday following Thanksgiving. If the date were changed, many of these teams would play their games for empty stadiums or not at all. The change also caused problems for college registrars, schedulers, and calendar makers.
A Gallup poll[when?] discovered that Democrats favored the switch 52% to 48% while Republicans opposed it 79% to 21%. Overall, Americans opposed the change 62% to 38%..

A lot of states -- Republican-controlled -- refused to follow Franklin's diktat and observed Thanksgiving on the regularly-scheduled day.

And how did Franklin's attempt to force patterns of human celebration into a Greater Economic Plan fare?

Well, it turns out, the smarty-pants' idea that an earlier Thanksgiving would boost sales was wrong:

In 1940, 32 states' governments and the District of Columbia observed the earlier date on November 21, while 16 states chose what some were calling the "Republican" Thanksgiving on the 28th.
On May 20, 1941, a Commerce Department survey found no significant expansion of retail sales due to the change.[citation needed] November of that year once again saw 32 states and the District of Columbia observing the holiday on the 20th, while the remaining 16 states did so on the 27th.

In 1941, FDR proclaimed a national day of prayer on the fourth Thursday of November, and this became the national date of observation.

Eventually. Many states kept the final-Thursday-in-November rule. Texas, for example, continued observing Thanksgiving on the last Thursday in November until 1956.

A Warner Bros. Merrie Melodies cartoon (you know, the Bugs Bunny cartoons, but without Bugs Bunny) made a joke about the situation in 1940, noting we had two Thanksgivings, one for Democrats and one for Republicans.

By the way, if any of you missed Thanksgiving (like me, sort of, as I have no real plans), that means that you still have a shot at doing it next Thursday -- "Republican" Thanksgiving. Nope! Darklord points out next Thursday is December 1st, so this is both real Thanksgiving and Republican Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Ace at 11:04 AM | Comments (131)
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1 First!

Posted by: Book Geek at November 24, 2011 11:05 AM (OXV70)

2 appy T-Day ace, have a great time, take a break.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2011 11:06 AM (h+qn8)

3 I'm hiding ,taking a smoke break.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2011 11:08 AM (h+qn8)

4 Tough year ahead.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at November 24, 2011 11:21 AM (UqKQV)

5 Happy Thanksgiving to all 'rons & 'ettes, I'm not cooking this year - too tired from work so my family took off and are doing their own thing at other people's houses. I just wanted to go out to eat. I'm pretty upset & depressed. What should I do?

Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2011 11:23 AM (BA8k3)

6 Cheri, have any extended family around to surprise with you smile?

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2011 11:25 AM (h+qn8)

7 your*

I know I would really dig it if my sister showed up, even if not expected.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2011 11:25 AM (h+qn8)

8 Sorry about that Cheri.

You could take yourself out to eat or go to the movies. Or maybe find a church that is having a Thanksgiving Day service.

Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2011 11:26 AM (5H6zj)

9 ((cheri))

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 24, 2011 11:26 AM (SH3gZ)

10 I added some Thanksgiving trivia stuff.

Posted by: ace at November 24, 2011 11:31 AM (nj1bB)

11 Thank you for your thoughts 'ettes. I am thankful for many things & I have to concentrate on that. Maybe a glass (or 2) of wine and some good old movies. There are so many people hurting in our world & I need to remember how good I have it. Thank you.

Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2011 11:31 AM (BA8k3)

12 Most days are Franksgiving at my place, except for the occasional days when Frank's taking.

Posted by: Bawny Frank at November 24, 2011 11:33 AM (yQwq5)

13 Cheri, If everyone's out of the house, I know what I would do if I was a lady. Google "Empire of Jeff + shirtless + baby oil"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 24, 2011 11:34 AM (0yt4x)

14 Oh and Sickinmass.....that video hurt

Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2011 11:35 AM (BA8k3)

15 Happy Thanksgiving Ace, cob-loggers and fellow morons!

Posted by: iamfelix at November 24, 2011 11:38 AM (kzFnw)

16 >>I'm pretty upset & depressed. What should I do?
Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2011 03:23 PM (BA8k3)

Try a 180 and orient yourself in personal pampering mode, while at he same time rigging a ladies variation of the man cave.

Take your shoes off, pour yourself a drink, and this is key, blast your favorite tunes.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 24, 2011 11:38 AM (HBqDo)

17 Next Thursday is December 1. So, erm, this IS 'Republican' Thanksgiving.

30 days hath, etc. etc...

Posted by: DarkLord on the road! at November 24, 2011 11:39 AM (vkUBG)

18 Try a 180 and orient yourself in personal pampering mode, while at he same time rigging a ladies variation of the man cave.
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Bubble bath.

Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2011 11:41 AM (5H6zj)

19 Happy Thanksgiving All. And Ace, may the hairs on your toes never fall off!

Posted by: The Great and Secret Show at November 24, 2011 11:42 AM (MgtS2)

20 Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 24, 2011 03:26 PM (SH3gZ)

Drink away, girl! I am of the belief that Perry had a strategy to stay in the fight, but never gain the edge, until the others had shown their hands. In the end, it will be a Perry v. Romney fight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 11:43 AM (piMMO)

21 >>>Next Thursday is December 1. So, erm, this IS 'Republican' Thanksgiving. Damnit!!!

Posted by: ace at November 24, 2011 11:44 AM (nj1bB)

22 Has anyone yet heard form Jane?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 11:44 AM (piMMO)

23 I'm pretty upset & depressed. What should I do?

Is there, like, a cop car you could go out a take a dump on? It always cheers me up when I'm feeling blue.

Posted by: I Am The 99%!!!!!! at November 24, 2011 11:45 AM (yQwq5)

24 Happy Thanksgiving, Ace!

Did you heed Shatner's cooking advice?

Don't put the entire hobo in the fryer at once

Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2011 11:46 AM (Y+DPZ)

25 "I'm pretty upset & depressed. What should I do?" Kick back and relax! Some of my best holidays were spent alone. It's quiet. You can control the remote. Eat what you want. Take a walk. Screw around on the internet. Go to a movie. Seriously, I've had some great times with a TV dinner and myself on TG.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 11:46 AM (4GqIy)

26 So, the dirty hippies didn't screw up the parade>

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 11:48 AM (4GqIy)

27 cheri' text the family tell them each to grab some food from their host families and come home! have a pot luck!!! make sure someone grabs pie and whip cream........

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 24, 2011 11:49 AM (SH3gZ)

28 "There are so many people hurting in our world & I need to remember how good I have it. " You do! All of the people who give you stress are temporarily away from the house. Go short their sheets! Holidays are stressful. I believe in making them as low key as possible to prevent from going nuts.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 11:50 AM (4GqIy)

29 You probably can go to a grocery store deli and buy a whole or half or quarter cooked turkey with stuffing and gravy.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 11:52 AM (4GqIy)

30 I'm not cooking this year - too tired from work so my family took off and are doing their own thing at other people's houses. I just wanted to go out to eat. I'm pretty upset & depressed. What should I do? Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2011 03:23 PM

Be happy that you have the time to relax and do what you want to do. Be happy that your holiday dinner wasn't ruined by drunks and leftards yammering at the table. Believe me, come to the ONT tonight and hear some of the horror stories about guests and you'll be thrilled that you had the house to yourself

Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2011 11:52 AM (Y+DPZ)

31 my dilemma......i have two nice bottles of wine.....if i bring them to the dinner....some schlub will gulp them down with no appreciation.....and it will be the same schlub who brings crappy ass jug wine i'll get stuck drinking........what to do? be generous and just bring it and let the idiot drink it? bring it but hide it? bring one and save the other for later?

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 24, 2011 11:52 AM (SH3gZ)

32 Cheri, I agree with everyone else whatever it is you love to do but usually can't do that. Bubble bath + wine = crazy delicious. We ate at 1 and it was awesome. Just had the little tartlets I made and they came out well which was a relief since I'd never made that recipe before. Mommy made a double batch of dressing so for once there's enough to take home. No screaming fights yet either! Life is good.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 24, 2011 11:54 AM (jXzPA)

33 I'm pretty upset & depressed. What should I do?

Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2011 03:23 PM (BA8k3)

One year i had a doozy of a TG. I had a Kidney infection that hurt like a bitch, couldn't get to my folks. They were mad. It rained like hell and my man was deployed in Iraq. I ate leftover chicken curry over minute rice for my meal, and spent it with my imaginary friends online, while i my blasted Happy music, and chatted on the internet.

we are here for you.

be good to yourself. Eventually things get better.

This is another deployment TG for us here at the farm but this time i got a ride to my moms, where shes drinking liquid food due to illness. You do what you can with what you got, Cheri.

at least we have something. maybe not what we want. but its SOMETHING.

and yeah, i listen to they might be giants and sing along obnoxiously when i am depressed and it always lifts my mood and scares the cats.

Posted by: gushie at November 24, 2011 11:54 AM (QNeKQ)

34 I miss OU-Nebraska on Thanksgiving. I was raised on that: Turkey... football. And later: Turkey... nap... football.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 24, 2011 11:54 AM (AfIgU)

35 I'm watching Kingdom of Heaven - one of those worse movies I have ever seen.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 11:54 AM (4GqIy)

36 Some of my best holidays were spent alone.

Oh yeah. I missed my family's Christmas a few years ago when they had an ice storm that closed the highways, and it was the best Christmas evah. Cooked myself a nice meal and no one snarked about seconds on dessert. Watched a dozen episodes of the X-Files instead of the Hallmark Channel. Slept in my own bed instead of on the basement floor. Enjoyed it so much I didn't even pretend to be sad the next Christmas when a blizzard closed the highways.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 24, 2011 11:56 AM (zoS2h)

37 What happened to Terry Bradshaw?

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 24, 2011 11:56 AM (AfIgU)

38 Oh, there he is.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 24, 2011 11:56 AM (AfIgU)

39 I can't stand Jimmy Johnson.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 24, 2011 11:56 AM (AfIgU)

40 What channel is Kingdom of Heaven on?

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 24, 2011 11:57 AM (AfIgU)

41 bring one and save the other for later?

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid..can i get a different flavor? at November 24, 2011 03:52 PM (SH3gZ)

this would be my plan. good wine should not be wasted on shlubs!!!!

Posted by: gushie at November 24, 2011 11:57 AM (QNeKQ)

42 It isn't. I dl the director's cut. Want a link?

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 11:58 AM (4GqIy)

43 What happened to Bradshaw is a question that needs an ace movie review length answer.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 24, 2011 11:58 AM (tAii9)

44 Cheri, Arrested Development marathon on IFC.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 24, 2011 11:58 AM (HBqDo)

45 Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I just need to stop with the depressing thoughts and roll on. Save the good wine for myself and enjoy the day alone with my dog & kitteh. Compared to my relatives, they are the better company.

Posted by: Cheri at November 24, 2011 12:01 PM (BA8k3)

46 I'll admit there are some nice axe to head scenes in KOH.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 12:01 PM (4GqIy)

47 I should probably go for a walk...if I see another lying-ass anti-Walker ad, I might hurt my TV. And I love my TV.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 24, 2011 12:02 PM (zoS2h)

48 Feliz Dia del Pavo, pandejos!

Posted by: TexasJew at November 24, 2011 12:03 PM (530Wc)

49 The whole FDR changing Thanksgiving date is also mocked in Bing Crosby's "Holiday Inn" (Crosby was a lifelong Republican). When they reach Thanksgiving on the calendar, the date suddenly flips to a week earlier and the animated turkey on the calendar races back to land on it. The date starts flipping back and forth until the turkey looks at the camera and shrugs its shoulders.

Posted by: Synnerman at November 24, 2011 12:03 PM (0Bdlg)

50 "Save the good wine for myself and enjoy the day alone with my dog & kitteh." How about a little party just the 3 of you? Can you improvise costumes? Take pixs but don't show themmto your relatives or they will lock you up...

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 12:03 PM (4GqIy)

51 Happy Thanksgiving, Ace, and all morons everywhere! On the ground in SD here, my sis is going straight to heaven for cooking me and my dad a major turkey feast, only a couple hours to wait now, smells sooooo good.

Posted by: Peaches at November 24, 2011 12:06 PM (VOXE7)

52 49 I should probably go for a walk...if I see another lying-ass anti-Walker ad, I might hurt my TV. And I love my TV.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 24, 2011 04:02 PM

Imagine if you had Walker hating guests at the table

Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2011 12:07 PM (Y+DPZ)

53 Yeah, where is Jane D'oh? Don't we have any morons on the ground to go check on her? Her evil lefty family and in laws might have done something bad to her.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 12:19 PM (4GqIy)

54 Imagine if you had Walker hating guests at the table

Ah, the joys of spinsterhood. No one ever comes to you. You always have to go to them. If they remember you at all. Heh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 24, 2011 12:20 PM (zoS2h)

55 Romo complete to Vonte Davis

Unfortunately for him, Davis plays for the Dolphins

Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2011 12:22 PM (Y+DPZ)

56
Dinner is still to come chez Wodeshed. Mrs. Wodeshed appears to be busy in the kitchen, along with the elder sheds, but it had better be dinnertime damn soon!

Happy to fellow morons and sympathetic others.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 24, 2011 12:22 PM (SgLsM)

57 Happy <Thanksgiving> , that is.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 24, 2011 12:23 PM (SgLsM)

58
What happened to Terry Bradshaw?

I'm guessing that he had a carpal tunnel release.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 24, 2011 12:26 PM (SgLsM)

59 hi

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:27 PM (epI4L)

Ah, the joys of spinsterhood

The joys of moving 2000 miles away from home means, if you decide to stay put, only relatives/friends you care about seeing will come to you.

I've enjoyed avoiding annoying relatives I have no interest in seeing the last two holiday seasons.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:30 PM (epI4L)

61 Another joy is having the whole blog to myself.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:34 PM (epI4L)

62 Hope ace doesn't mind of I go all OWS like, and make myself at home.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:35 PM (epI4L)

63 Not so fast there, bub.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 12:35 PM (piMMO)

64 Ok, I left a present under the AOS Festivus pole. Enjoy!

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:38 PM (epI4L)

65 It is incredibly disappointing that I left the room for just a little bit, with football on the t.v., and returned to ice skating.

I suppose it's important to tamper down all that testosterone before the men folk start in on their annual festival of beating the crap out of their women.

_{*Do the the nuts still push that B.S.?}

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 12:38 PM (piMMO)

66 The OWS Hippies are supposedly planning on sit-ins at stores to disrupt Black Fridays... all I want for Christmas is a few shots of the trampled bodies!

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 24, 2011 12:39 PM (niZvt)

67 67 It is incredibly disappointing that I left the room for just a little bit, with football on the t.v., and returned to ice skating.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 04:38 PM

Another reason not to be depressed because you're alone in the house today

Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2011 12:40 PM (Y+DPZ)

68 It isn't. I dl the director's cut. Want a link?

Yes, please.

Posted by: OregonMuse at November 24, 2011 12:41 PM (9Y6sE)

69 Heh, I was reading the sidebar about the Chinese "Dog (that) refuses to leave owner's grave." That being China and all, you do know it's because the dog probably fears winding up in the gravy, right?

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 24, 2011 12:42 PM (niZvt)

The OWS Hippies are supposedly planning on sit-ins at stores to disrupt Black Fridays... all I want for Christmas is a few shots of the trampled bodies!

I hope they try that at evil Walmart. See if they can handle a bunch of obese rednecks sprinting after a 50 dollar big screen tv.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:43 PM (3ORju)

71 68 The OWS Hippies are supposedly planning on sit-ins at stores to disrupt Black Fridays... all I want for Christmas is a few shots of the trampled bodies! Posted by: CoolCzech at November 24, 2011 04:39 PM

Maybe they won't or they'll just do a few of their lame "mic check" chants

If Christmas sales are "less than expected", then you see it won't be the SCOAMF's fault, it'll be because consumerist shoppers showed their support for OWS

The MBM can look themselves in the mirror because they paid so well to read propaganda from a teleprompter

Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2011 12:43 PM (Y+DPZ)

72 Ok, I left a present under the AOS Festivus pole. Enjoy!

You wrapped it so nicely.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 12:43 PM (piMMO)

73 That being China and all, you do know it's because the dog probably fears winding up in the gravy, right? Posted by: CoolCzech at November 24, 2011 04:42 PM (niZvt) ================================ Are you saying that Chinese dogs are self aware?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 24, 2011 12:45 PM (jucos)

74 I hope they try that at evil Walmart. See if they can handle a bunch of obese rednecks sprinting after a 50 dollar big screen tv.

I'm tempted to drive to Walmart and film it except that Jacksonville has the single worst OWS protest ever. It is so sad you wouldn't believe it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 12:45 PM (piMMO)

75 64 Hope ace doesn't mind of I go all OWS like, and make myself

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 24, 2011 12:46 PM (kn1X1)

You wrapped it so nicely.

It's the least I could do. Just be careful when you open it.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:46 PM (3ORju)

77 See? They even keep the area clean.

No good hippie-wannabes!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 12:48 PM (piMMO)

78 78 You wrapped it so nicely. It's the least I could do. Just be careful when you open it. Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 04:46 PM (3ORju) If you're a guy, Delta, I think I'll just leave your "package" wrapped, if that's OK.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 24, 2011 12:48 PM (niZvt)

79 Damned iPhone has gone rogue. Now then, delta smelt, you take a dump on the carpet & it's into the deep fryer with the rest of the hobos for you!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destor at November 24, 2011 12:48 PM (kn1X1)

I'm tempted to drive to Walmart and film it except that Jacksonville has the single worst OWS protest ever. It is so sad you wouldn't believe it.

I haven't heard of any OWS presence here in Charleston, but I think a few raggamuffins were involved over in Columbia. Vic would probably know for sure.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:49 PM (3ORju)

81 @70 http://goo.gl/yE5M7 Also, register at http://goo.gl/508IG

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 12:52 PM (4GqIy)

If you're a guy, Delta, I think I'll just leave your "package" wrapped, if that's OK.

Last time I checked, I was the epitome of masculine charm, good looks, and charisma. So, by all means, keep away. I'd prefer you did.

you take a dump on the carpet

Free speech!

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 12:53 PM (3ORju)

I'm tempted to drive to Walmart and film it except that Jacksonville has the single worst OWS protest ever. It is so sad you wouldn't believe it.

I haven't heard of any OWS presence here in Charleston, but I think a few raggamuffins were involved over in Columbia. Vic would probably know for sure.

I am having a one-on-one with the OWS Jax camp on Livestream. They are so not like the others.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 12:53 PM (piMMO)

84 Whew, it's a _{no troll zone.}

Watching It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. husband is napping and ham is almost done.

Posted by: mpfs at November 24, 2011 12:54 PM (bv3B0)

85 cheri, this is the first Thanksgiving in 25 years that I haven't had a houseful of people to cook for and entertain. I was absolutely dreading this day, and rather sad on the prior days. However, I am pleasantly surprised at how good it is to relax and not be worried about seating arrangements, toddlers escaping, sullen teenagers and mounds of china/pots/wine glasses to clean and put away.

It is a rare opportunity to do just whatever you want to do on a day you don't have work or haul kids to school and activities. Enjoy your peace and quiet, have a glass or three of wine, grab a good book/watch football or old movies, or go for a nice walk [with your wine if you like].

Posted by: museisluse at November 24, 2011 12:55 PM (4Lj43)

86 @37 Mike, I didn't care for the theater version of Kingdom of Heaven, but recently read that the directors' cut was much better.. I ordered the BluR and watched it last week... it was MUCH better, although... longish. I finished the movie with a MUCH better appreciation of it than I did the first time I saw it. ...

Posted by: Yip in Texas at November 24, 2011 12:56 PM (Mrdk1)

87 thanks, mike

Posted by: OregonMuse at November 24, 2011 12:58 PM (9Y6sE)

88 Watching It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. husband is napping and ham is almost done.

I've only seen a few episodes and the first I ever saw was the one with the Nazi uniform.

My God but they are twisted.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 01:00 PM (piMMO)

89 I'm watching the first one from this season where they play some twisted game at the bar. It's hilarious.

Posted by: mpfs at November 24, 2011 01:01 PM (bv3B0)

86Whew, it's a _{no troll zone.}

Did someone call? :^D

Srsly, happy thanksgiving to all. I ate like a pig this afternoon *urrp*

Posted by: Zimriel the semi-troll at November 24, 2011 01:01 PM (rtzHA)

91 Why can't I remember whether Eva Green gets nekkid in Kingdom of Heaven?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 24, 2011 01:02 PM (N+nDK)

93Why can't I remember whether Eva Green gets nekkid in Kingdom of Heaven?

The only person I remember getting boned in Kingdom of Heaven was me, when I paid for the ticket

Posted by: Zimriel the semi-troll at November 24, 2011 01:03 PM (rtzHA)

The only person I remember getting boned in Kingdom of Heaven was me, when I paid for the ticket

Rim shot!

What ever happened to the Boulder Toilet Hobo anyway?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 01:07 PM (b7FY0)

94 I put this in the football thread by accident, so I shall repost like the whore I am. Thanksgiving Then and Now http://t.co/gRt1Wihb

Now to begin the birthday drinking!

Happy Thanksgiving all!

Posted by: Zakn at November 24, 2011 01:11 PM (zyaZ1)

95
Before I fall into a coma from the turkey and half bottle of wine followed soon by pie, let me ask if anybody else always wanted to see Dallas play Detroit on T-day or if that is just my weird brain?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 24, 2011 01:11 PM (JYheX)

96 I put this in the football thread by accident, so I shall repost like the whore I am. Thanksgiving Then and Now http://t.co/gRt1Wihb

HAAHAHAHAAA!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 01:13 PM (piMMO)

97 Yip in Texas: That's what I read on imdb. Anyway, there are some interesting threads over there. Eva doesn't get down and dirty nakkid. Sorry. I'm on a Middle Ages - Tudors kick. I generally stick to documentaries. The Tudors still isn't bad. Also, David Starkey's stuff is entertaining. There are a couple of documentary series on the Normans that are pretty good. I may dig out Lion in Winter and A Man for All Season's, too. In Search of Shakespeare with Michael Woods is good. There are no English. They were either murdered or had the English fucked out of them, i.e., the men were killed or driven off and the invaders took their women.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 01:16 PM (4GqIy)

98 I won't get too upset over FDR's Thanksgiving Day date dictation; a Thursday near the end of November seems fine to me. But I detest the expression "Turkey Day," for this reason: It's the Liberal way of saying "Thanksgiving Day" and avoiding any inference that they may be a Deity to give thanks to. Sort of like writing "X-mas," that as a kid I naively thought was just short for Christmas (with the X standing in for the Cross), but came to realize was just another Liberal way of avoiding "having to" say Christ.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 24, 2011 01:16 PM (niZvt)

99 dslkbxdlkdf fdgdf drfgl;dh fd;hgdf dfh tgd fgkffh!

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 01:21 PM (b7FY0)

100 101 dslkbxdlkdf fdgdf drfgl;dh fd;hgdf dfh tgd fgkffh! Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 05:21 PM (b7FY0) Are you mocking the criminally dyslexic, delta?

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 24, 2011 01:22 PM (niZvt)

101 Just reminding the few folks out there, that I'm Delta Smelt, and I'm reporting for duty.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 01:25 PM (b7FY0)

102 Red Eye, standing by ....

Posted by: G Gutfield at November 24, 2011 01:32 PM (Y+DPZ)

103 Now the worst part. Putting the leftovers away, and then the first load of dishes.

Posted by: Zakn at November 24, 2011 01:32 PM (zyaZ1)

104 Actually, I was taught as a boy that the "X" in "Xmas" was from the Greek "Christos", meaning Christ. In Greek, X is the first letter in Christos. At least that's what I remember our Pastor teaching us 40 -some years ago.

Posted by: Useless Claptrap at November 24, 2011 01:33 PM (sJTmU)

105 103 Just reminding the few folks out there, that I'm Delta Smelt, and I'm reporting for duty. Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 05:25 PM

Red Party, standing by

Posted by: Debbie Whatsername Schultz at November 24, 2011 01:33 PM (Y+DPZ)

106 103 Just reminding the few folks out there, that I'm Delta Smelt, and I'm reporting for duty. Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 05:25 PM

Red haired big boobied hottie, standing by

Posted by: Christina Hendricks at November 24, 2011 01:34 PM (Y+DPZ)

107 103 Just reminding the few folks out there, that I'm Delta Smelt, and I'm reporting for duty. Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 05:25 PM

Red Zone Fail, standing by

Posted by: Mark Sanchez at November 24, 2011 01:35 PM (Y+DPZ)

108

I finally found a use for old zoning drawings (24" x 36"), I got some scotch tape on sale and am taping old targets to them, color the holes with black and red sharpies...presto new targets!

Happy Thanksgiving Rons and Rettes!!

Posted by: KZnextzone at November 24, 2011 01:35 PM (ZUWaD)

109 103 Just reminding the few folks out there, that I'm Delta Smelt, and I'm reporting for duty. Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 05:25 PM

Red Diaper Baby, standing by ....

Posted by: King Barry the Red at November 24, 2011 01:36 PM (Y+DPZ)

110 103 Just reminding the few folks out there, that I'm Delta Smelt, and I'm reporting for duty. Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 24, 2011 05:25 PM Red Ass, standing by....

Posted by: Baboon at November 24, 2011 01:44 PM (4GqIy)

111

Meh, I'm at work making big bucks because this contract is history. I'll be home in 25 min so ya'll have a great Thanksgiving. There's plenty to celebrate and more to come!

Posted by: Gmac at November 24, 2011 01:48 PM (k2Fyd)

112 Did you know you can't post the name of The Buckaroo Banzai civilian support team on this site?

Posted by: KZnextzone at November 24, 2011 01:50 PM (ZUWaD)

113 Damn, is this one of the gheyest halftime shows ever or what

Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2011 01:54 PM (Y+DPZ)

114 Now I'm watching The Name of the Rose. So far, so good. The imdb threads are again pretty funny.

Posted by: mike at November 24, 2011 01:57 PM (4GqIy)

115 CoolCzech, X stands for Christ in Greek.

The "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".

Some people may well be using it to avoid Christ, but in fact it is a very acceptable (and historically accurate) form of spelling Christmas, as well as Christian.

Also, I know lots of folks who say Turkey Day with no disrespect intended; they're just referring to the eatin' part. I use the term myself occasionally, and trust me, we all say grace as well as count our blessings out loud at the table before we eat. I made a journal several years ago we all write them down in, as well.

Posted by: MissTammy at November 24, 2011 02:00 PM (SsG4J)

116
Worst halftime show ever indeed, kb.

Until today, I was not aware of the existence of a rapper/apparent Cali cartel druglord named Pitbull.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 24, 2011 02:04 PM (SgLsM)

117 Here @ Ft. FORGER, we got a pig in the ground, got some beer on ice and all my.... er, that ain't it...

The stuffing is stuffed, the taters are cheezin', the ham is halal, (fer my muzzie friends don't ya know..), the Magic Bars are magically delish, the turkey titty medallions will soon be be prepared in that most holy of ways, breaded and fried, and the Val-u-Rite-n-Cranberry cocktails are getting better by the glass...

And it's about the sweetest Thanksgiving Day of my life.

This time last year, I had been told by Dr. Quackenstein that I would be on dialysis and kidneyless within a year and dead within 5, and was being prepped for transfer to Barnes-Joooooish hospital for treatment of a tumor on my right kidney.

But thanks to Doc Roytman and crew, I am cancer free, only missing appx. 1/4 of my right kidney, along with the tumor, and my one year post-op check shows I have better kidney function than someone my age with two whole kidneys.

So this year I am thankful for the Doc and crew at Barnes and Wash. U Urology for giving me the chance to be able to fight with The Ol' Lady over the 6" of available counter space while we cook dinner.

And I'm thankful for Mr. O'Spades for giving us Morons this little corner of the intertubes to come to for the laughs, cries, aggravation, irritation and information that gets us thru the day to day.

Happy Thanksgiving, all y'all Morons.

Posted by: FORGER at November 24, 2011 02:08 PM (Vf6xf)

118 Just finished feeding the husband and cleaned up. All is well. No I'm just trolling for good comments. I do have to say I purchased the prepology silicone sheets from QVC and clean up was a breeze, Lined the the pans of the stuff I had to bake and presto chango! No mess, came clean with soap, water and wipe.

Posted by: mpfs at November 24, 2011 02:10 PM (bv3B0)

119 God bless ya FORGER. Come here ya big lug....give us a hug.

Posted by: mpfs at November 24, 2011 02:12 PM (bv3B0)

120 ((((MPFS))))

Posted by: FORGER at November 24, 2011 02:21 PM (Vf6xf)

121 Free speech! Do you scream like a lobster when lowered into the deep fryer?

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122 God Bless ya, Forger!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 24, 2011 02:38 PM (piMMO)

123 Nice to know some people get the happy ending Forger. Savor it!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destor at November 24, 2011 02:47 PM (kn1X1)

124 Several years ago, other teams started lobbying the NFL to switch up the Turkey Day line up. The NFL refused pointing out that Dallas and Detroit had been the only ones to step up and play then when no one else wanted to. It did however lead to the Thursday night game that is now played.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at November 24, 2011 03:01 PM (xUI0P)

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