1 They need to toss these guys out right now along with that ass clown Hanson. Then criminal charges for fraud need to be filed against them.

2 Didn't they also use solution #3?

Since the readings didn't match, install a strong magnet next to the first, unbiased compass.

3 Gabe of Spades!

4 Lord love a duck. It's ok to take the average of two thermometer results if they are measuring the same thing at the same time. Otherwise, no. Who trained these guys? Al Capone? What a frakking mess!

5 Take their Dr. Quest decoder rings away from them immediately.

6 I don't have time to read about fudge.  I'm too busy stuffing coal into my airtight.  Brrrr.

7

I found out that NASA is a private entity after thirtysome years of thinking it was part of the USAF or at least run by our military. These guys are turning into a bunch of goobers. Hell you can't depend on the success of WD-40 to keep you in a favorable light. 

8 Is this climategate thing getting any traction among the general population?  Barely a peep on the Sunday shows today.  Anyone seen any polls on the subject?  I would love to think the wall is finally coming down, but outside of the blogs I'm seeing little to nothing.

9 Another good read: American Thinker: Understanding Climategate's Hidden Decline

10

I found out that NASA is a private separate government entity after thirtysome years of thinking it was part of the USAF or at least run by our military. These guys are turning into a bunch of goobers. Hell you can't depend on the success of WD-40 to keep you in a favorable light. 

Posted by: sonnyspats at December 06, 2009 02:33 PM (ozpeF)

FIFY

11 It's all too late to help me..

12

I found out that NASA is a private several separate quasi-government entities after thirtysome years of thinking it was part of the USAF or at least run by our military. These guys are turning into a bunch of goobers. Hell you can't depend on the success of WD-40 to keep you in a favorable light. 

Posted by: sonnyspats at December 06, 2009 02:33 PM (ozpeF)

Even better!

13

How did we ever get to the moon without miscounting tree rings in Siberia?

14 I found out NASA was full of sheite - a type of super coal that I'm looking to burn in my stove to keep warm.  WTF has happened to coal supplies for home heating?  It's getting really hard to get.

15 Siberian tree rings? I thought you wanted me to inspect Latvian cock rings!

16 LetÂ’s say you had two compasses to help you find north, but the compasses DON'T AGREE, AND SO AT LEAST ONE IS INCORRECT.

17 Rasmussen on fudging data:

http://tinyurl.com/ylpd8j5

18 WTF has happened to coal supplies for home heating?  It's getting really hard to get.

Yeah, that market kinda collapsed about sixty years ago.  It's all about the natural gas now.

19 Hansen is one of the 'high priests' of AGW.  It's not like he has a VESTED INTEREST in it.  Trust him.  He's a "scientist".  Hahahahahahahaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

20
I think you can safely conclude that Al Gore and Global Warming alarmists have officially jumped the shark once there is a "Der Untergang" spoof released on YouTube.

http://tinyurl.com/yjsu8xc

21

How the hell does NASA get credit for WD-40? It sure ain't theirs. And they don't get SiliconeSeal or Tang, either. Programming, kinda-maybe.

OS, how far are you from coal fields? I'm 250 miles, and all I have to do is ask around to get a trucker to bring a triple-axle load right to the place--often below market spot price, and no premium for transport. Watch for a coal truck at your local truck stop, and just ask. If you're flexible on delivery, or better yet can use mixed grades and sizes, you can get some helladeals. Plan on 500 cubic feet of storage space, though. It don't come in bags.

Heh: My family owned several thriving coalyards, once. After WWII, dad and the uncles wanted to branch out into appliances and building supplies. The Old Man said, "What are people gonna do? Put in all new furnaces?" Residential bulk coal is a PITA and subject to several layers of special local tax, plus teamsters. You can't blame anybody for wanting out of the business.  

A woodstove is not a coal stove. Don't fire that puppy too hard or you'll spang it.

22 Pellet stoves for supplemental heat are nice.  Think of it as man-made pre-coal.

23 9 Another good read: American Thinker: Understanding Climategate's Hidden Decline

Posted by: Michael in MI at December 06, 2009 02:34 PM (ObTcs)

That's one of the best articles I've read. It's detailed and well constructed.  Everyone in Copenhagen should be required to read it.

24 NASA seems to be going down hill fast.  It's a shame to see that they have no integrity left.  Time to either disband it or turn it over to the military.  As far as I'm concerned, crashing shit into the moon and making plans to send a guy to Mars just for fun is a bit wasteful given that the government is broke.  If something is going to be shot into space at great expense, then it's time for it to pay for itself.  What's the last major commercial product - that benefitted the American economy - that came out of NASA?  I'd love to know.

25 The Old Man said, "What are people gonna do? Put in all new furnaces?"

My father in law once said that TV would never catch on.  His last job before he retired was as a VCR and TV repairman.

There's only one thing you can say for sure about the future, it won't be anything like you expect.

26

My father in law once said that TV would never catch on.  His last job before he retired was as a VCR and TV repairman.

There's only one thing you can say for sure about the future, it won't be anything like you expect.

Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at December 06, 2009 03:22 PM (ghGK6)

For years (from sometime in the 1950's I think) my uncle owned the cable rights from Scranton to Hazleton, PA. He used to tell me cable TV would never get off the ground. In the late '70's or early '80's he sold those rights, figuring anything he got for them was gravy.

27 Yesterday we got copied on this message Schlesinger sent to New York Times science reporter Andy Revkin:Andy [Revkin of the New York Times]:Copenhagen prostitutes?Climate prostitutes?Shame on you for this gutter reportage. [Emphasis added.]This is the second time this week I have written you thereon, the first about giving space in your blog to the Pielkes.The vibe that I am getting from here, there and everywhere is that your reportage is very worrisome to most climate scientists.Of course, your blog is your blog.But, I sense that you are about to experience the 'Big Cutoff' from those of us who believe we can no longer trust you, me included. [Emphasis added.]Copenhagen prostitutes?Unbelievable and unacceptable.What are you doing and why?Michael [Schlesinger of the University of Illinois]Any questions why the MSM has been so quiet ?

28

Oh -- and my uncle owned his own electronics business, installing and maintaining every kind of transmitter, receiver and re-transmitter out there. He did the comms for lots of police, fire, municipalities etc. but saw zero future in cable TV.

29

@27 Yeah Neo, that is rich. Let me be a moron first, and just quote Billy Fish:

"Ootah say he also have twenty sons if you be liking boys."  Obviously our Mr Schlesinger did not receive his post card.

He's right, though, in principle. These are not the prostitutes who matter.

30 How complex does this need to be?  The computer models forecasting warming weren't even right for the next decade, much less the next eight.  The only concrete fact is that the models are wrong-- the cries of 'Science!' are flying directly in the face of measured, verifiable Reality.

31

8 Is this climategate thing getting any traction among the general population?  Barely a peep on the Sunday shows today.  Anyone seen any polls on the subject?  I would love to think the wall is finally coming down, but outside of the blogs I'm seeing little to nothing.

Climategate? You've got one on me.

32 A list of dozens of anti-alarmist, peer reviewed studies, nicely categorized: Freeborn John Just more ammo against the "science is settled, peer reviews duh" crowd.

33 27 Of course, your blog is your blog.But, I sense that you are about to experience the 'Big Cutoff' from those of us who believe we can no longer trust you, me included.

Ah. More bullying from the consensus whores. This is fun. Just like the commintern meetings where they just stood up and plugged the dissenters at point blank range. Blood be coming to a theater near you.

34

Yesterday on foxer, there was an interview with a "scientist", very intellectual and self assured as only intellectual scientist can be, who very scientisty told the interviewer how the fake data was nothing really (You wouldn't understand but I'm a scientist and I know these things).  He kept going on about how each country had their own data and how good it was because it was totally independent of the fake stuff the other scientists, the bad ones evidently, came up with. 

I wouldn't say that he was necessarily preaching from the alter of the Virgin Gaia, but I'm pretty certain that if you wanted your child baptised, he would be more than happy to perform the ceremony, naked, under a full moon with holy water salvaged from a glacier destroyed by human caused global warming.

These parents of these charlatans should sue their children for wasting their money on PHDs only to become cultists. 

35

That was a great article but for more fun read the comments.  A climate change supporter attempted to discredit the article and over the course of a number of exchanges was pretty well logically and methodically destroyed.

 

36 Looks like an occupant in a humble brick building in Siberia may be our Climaquiddick hero.

[re-post]

37 I notice that much of the AGW crowd has thrown CRU under the bus, and now pointing to Hansen's GISS data instead.  "Okay, CRU were bad but this is NASA!!!  And they say there is AGW!!  NASA never gets it wrong!  They are literally rocket scientists!!"  

( >koff<Challenger/Columbia>koff< )

38 Palin did it on Facebook, but I want her, and other "contendahs" such as Romney to say, into a microphone that this who AGW thing is a crock, and that we are not going to get our country, and the West go off the economic cliff with a bunch of imbeciles--TIME TO STOP HEDGING, FELLAS!

39 I notice that much of the AGW crowd has thrown CRU under the bus, and now pointing to Hansen's GISS data instead.  "Okay, CRU were bad but this is NASA!!!  And they say there is AGW!!  NASA never gets it wrong!  They are literally rocket scientists!!"

Posted by: Flubber at December 06, 2009 06:52 PM (/kVbY)

--Try as I might, I can't seem to find the pea!

40

Whoops, meant to put this here:

Tangentially related, here's an article linked by Drudge today:

Copenhagen Summit:  ... Caviar Wedges 

And here's part of an email to Ace on 11/22:

. . .
 
The AGW climate Nazis have lived lives of luxury, an incredibly wealthy, extravagant lifestyle.  And they've worked to build an entire culture to support their expensive tastes.  I've been trying to think about some of the payoffs:
 
-conferences (a/k/a "parties" in exotic locales)
-flash money (per diem money)
-"research" (in exotic locales)
-flash money
-cocktail parties (in exotic locales)
-flash money
-meetings (parties) (at the best hotels and restaurants, of course) (in exotic locales) 
-sabbaticals (vacations) (in exotic locales)
-flash money
-lots of other paid time off
-hot co-eds
-control over how you use your time
-"non-monetary" (tax-free) compensation
-unlimited research slush funds
 
They have everything billionaires have except the large bank accounts.  If they want to take a biz-jet to a Mongolian desert and catch a million-dollar helicopter to a four-star campsite, while wearing expense-account obtained clothing (they get to keep), they get to.  All they have to do is fill-out a form, exaggerate and embellish a little bit on the purpose and benefit, and voila, another tax-free junket on our dime. 

And flash money.

41 NASA never gets it wrong!  They are literally rocket scientists!!"

STS-1 flew with Crippen and Young having to memorize a book of errata and workarounds about an inch thick.

The flight avionics computer I was responsible for (a Shuttle has 4 of these attached to the main AP101 flight computers) was largely issue free except for one real biggie -- the units would lock up once a month or so on average and nobody could figure out why.  IBM and Rockwell staff had chased that problem ever since the Enterprise glide tests.  STS-1 flew with it still being an unexplained mystery.

A few months after STS-1 flew I figured it out after a very tedious code inspection that took weeks of pouring over thousands of lines of assembler code ;-> 

42 http://hopenhagen.org/

So, I go there and signed their little pettition. My name? Itsthe Sunstupid.
my message of hope? You commies die soon... we will see how well they screen.

43 I signed as "Heidi DeKline"

44

hehe

"Hayden DeKline"