December 04, 2009
— Ace With... adults. The most liberal Democrat friendly sample there is.
Here's another finding: The public likes the idea of pulling troops out of Afghanistan, but they seem to get what a bad idea it is to announce a bug-out date:
20. President Obama also announced that he plans to start removing U.S. troops from Afghanistan in the summer of 2011. Thinking specifically about that policy and not about Obama's decision to announce it at this time, do you favor or oppose Obama's plan to start removing troops fromAfghanistan in 2011?
Dec. 2-3
2009
Favor 66%
Oppose 32%
No opinion 2%
21. And regardless of how you feel about the plan to start removing troops in 2011, do you think it was a good idea or a bad idea for Obama to announce that policy at this time?
Dec. 2-3
2009
Good idea 39%
Bad idea 59%
No opinion 2%
Bad idea, 59%.
Thanks to AHFF Geoff.
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Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 04, 2009 10:55 AM (PH0UW)
OT: this 2009 Unsexiest list is pretty good
I agree with every one of them. And not a single gratuitous Republican figure made the list. In other words, it's a good list, for once.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 04, 2009 10:57 AM (z37MR)
What would have been a good idea is to keep the announcement private between himself and Karzai (or however you spell it).
My knees are starting to hurt from all this ball-dipping.
This is one joy of getting old. The balls droop down to dipping level, requiring less knee-bending. God is smart.
Posted by: CUS at December 04, 2009 10:58 AM (wOGfT)
CNN: Obama Underwater, 48 Approve, 50% Disapprove
What a lovely birthday present! A day late, but it's the thought that counts.
Posted by: stuiec at December 04, 2009 10:58 AM (7AOgy)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 04, 2009 10:59 AM (NtiET)
Posted by: joncelli at December 04, 2009 02:55 PM (RD7QR)
Get a small end-table or stand to put the dip on. You won't have to squat all the way to the floor.
Posted by: stuiec at December 04, 2009 11:00 AM (7AOgy)
I'll give him this, however, his incompetence and the related decline in his approval rating truly is unprecedented.
*Yeah you deniers might claim that math doesn't work like this, but I've got the massaged data to prove otherwise.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2009 11:00 AM (7BU4a)
Why, Happy Birthday Stu. Under which bridge shall we leave the case of ValuRite?
Posted by: CUS at December 04, 2009 11:00 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 04, 2009 11:00 AM (xxgag)
The only people who believe there is a groundswell of support to close Gitmo and prosecute Americans for torture are the RNC.
Nobody gives a shit torturing islamists or keeping terrorists in Gitmo. The Republicans need to fight back on these two points instead of running away from them.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 04, 2009 11:00 AM (z37MR)
Only 48% of people have no business being allowed near flame or sharp objects!
Looks like hopenchange needs to hit a few more dirty hippies and clueless suburban liberals in the wallet before we can get Carter II: Electric Boogaloo thrown out.
Posted by: sifty at December 04, 2009 11:01 AM (15gto)
Posted by: Opus at December 04, 2009 11:02 AM (IebeI)
Drudge or somebody has a story up that O'Bama is the one who insisted on announcing a pull-out date.
Sheer genius.
Posted by: rdbrewer at December 04, 2009 11:04 AM (RBdAa)
Posted by: Jean at December 04, 2009 11:05 AM (1bQOq)
We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
Until January 1, 1945...
Posted by: Winston Churchill at December 04, 2009 11:05 AM (c4JYH)
2. (IF DISAPPROVE) Do you disapprove because you think his policies and actions since he became president have been too liberal, or because you think his policies and actions have not been liberal enough?
* Disapprove, not liberal enough 8%
* Disapprove, unsure on Question 2 2%
If the percentage of Americans residing in group homes for adults with cognitive disabilities is less than 2%, I question representiveness of the sample.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 04, 2009 11:06 AM (NtiET)
What's a moron in Chicago to do?
Posted by: WTFCI at December 04, 2009 11:06 AM (GtYrq)
Drudge or somebody has a story up that O'Bama is the one who insisted on announcing a pull-out date.
Sheer genius.His logic (IIRC) was to put pressure on the Afghans and Pakis to get their fecal matter in sequence. But, this is something you do NOT tell your enemies.
Posted by: CUS at December 04, 2009 11:07 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Palin Steele's Fevered Boy-Dreams at December 04, 2009 11:09 AM (MMC8r)
Dec. 2-3
2009
Bush 34%
Obama 54%
Both equal/Neither (vol.) 12%
No opinion 1%
OK, that might be worth a dip.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 04, 2009 11:11 AM (NtiET)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at December 04, 2009 11:11 AM (Vui52)
i don't think this matters to dems now, its not like they consider data collected through a scientific method reliable or trustworthy.
Posted by: x11b1p at December 04, 2009 11:13 AM (ejoAx)
Good heavens, is he blathering on about that? Better, is anyone really still listening to him?
Posted by: TheRedDianthus at December 04, 2009 11:14 AM (4UkCP)
The only people who believe there is a groundswell of support to close Gitmo and prosecute Americans for torture are the RNC.
What the....
You mean the...
Posted by: Roadking at December 04, 2009 11:15 AM (RMg6E)
George Soros fed him some more Quaaludes and got him to compromise on just announcing a surrender date during Charlie Brown's Christmas.
Posted by: sifty at December 04, 2009 11:17 AM (15gto)
OK class--today we're going to journal our feelings about being oppressed by the number 48.
Posted by: Progressive Math Teacher at December 04, 2009 11:18 AM (NtiET)
Posted by: FU52 at December 04, 2009 11:18 AM (gSCDY)
Posted by: Bosk at December 04, 2009 11:19 AM (pUO5u)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at December 04, 2009 11:21 AM (j6H6o)
20-30%. Everybody else is winnable.
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at December 04, 2009 11:23 AM (YRjsF)
I hear Dr. Phil Jones is currently available. He has experience in hiding declines in numbers such as this.
Perhaps you can give him a call?
Posted by: CUS at December 04, 2009 11:24 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Dansk Prostitueret at December 04, 2009 11:26 AM (NtiET)
Posted by: Truman North at December 04, 2009 11:26 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at December 04, 2009 11:27 AM (cuLne)
Ras has him at 28% approval now which means 72% DISapproval!
Now that is grounds for dipping.
Posted by: Vic at December 04, 2009 11:27 AM (CDUiN)
For now. Holiday hiring has temporarily decreased unemployment, and his West Point speach has certain squishy segments of the electorate giving him another benefit of the doubt. As soon as managers get next year's budget and need to trim even more of their skeletal staff, and the holiday hires are back at the unemployment office, his numbers will plummet again.
Posted by: CUS at December 04, 2009 11:28 AM (wOGfT)
all VW drivers,
all counter-help at Hot Topic,
anyone working at a major zoo,
anyone drinking a coffee-based beverage worth more than $6 at a dog park in the middle of the day in Ugg boots,
anyone with the word "Juicy" emblazoned on their pants across their ass,
these can safely be counted on to follow Obamessiah over Victoria Falls.
Posted by: sifty at December 04, 2009 11:28 AM (15gto)
Posted by: Gabriel Syme at December 04, 2009 11:30 AM (X2xSP)
Posted by: wHodat at December 04, 2009 11:30 AM (+sBB4)
Posted by: CUS at December 04, 2009 03:00 PM (wOGfT)
I think the Highway 24 overpass in Pleasant Hill. It should act as suitable bait for a brace of hoboes.
Posted by: stuiec at December 04, 2009 11:31 AM (7AOgy)
Posted by: RobD at December 04, 2009 11:31 AM (sV3Dv)
Todd and her parents were there chatting with everyone in the bookstore. All very unassuming people. Very nice.Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 04, 2009 11:32 AM (xIqkW)
Posted by: wHodat at December 04, 2009 03:30 PM (+sBB4)
Wow, how deep did you stick it in?
Posted by: stuiec at December 04, 2009 11:32 AM (7AOgy)
No profit = no growth.
No growth = no hiring (no new jobs).
What the fucketty fuck fuck is that? Maybe that's his profit to earnings ratio magic number?
Posted by: CUS at December 04, 2009 11:34 AM (wOGfT)
but they seem to get what a bad idea it is to announce a bug-out date
Thanks intertubes... now we can see how much smarter the American people actually are than the idiots that tell us what we think on TV!
Posted by: sherlock at December 04, 2009 11:35 AM (jdXw+)
Posted by: pat at December 04, 2009 11:36 AM (Jr9Wl)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at December 04, 2009 03:32 PM (xIqkW)
Sweet! I wish I could have been there.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at December 04, 2009 11:37 AM (Vu6sl)
My take on why people want out of Afghanistan is that they look around the world and see failed states. Failed states - states with shit like pirate stock exchanges - that are pretty scary. Afghanistan, dispite our having been there for 8 years, is well down the road to failuredom. Pakistan is already there. People look at these places and they look unsalvageable. They look at the underlying reason, the wave of religiously driven radical savages breaking over this region that is threatening to carry away even the previously western friendly secular regimes like Turkey and Egypt, and they can't see, after what we've done so far, the least glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.
Ironically, that is the same picture that people who think we should stay see. Try to hold back the wave of evil until something changes, something that would make victory possible. Kinda like the 300 Spartans. And the Persian armies aren't even engaged yet.
My bet is that unless there is something secret out there that we don't know about, we are going to wish we had a whole bunch of those F-22s in our back pocket.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 04, 2009 11:38 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: dananjcon at December 04, 2009 11:39 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 11:39 AM (81QXy)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 11:41 AM (81QXy)
Posted by: Truman North at December 04, 2009 11:42 AM (e8YaH)
Only a communist community organizer who has never worked a day in his life could say something like that and seriously mean it.
Sometimes I am literally flabbergasted by his clueless stupidity.
Posted by: Vic at December 04, 2009 11:42 AM (CDUiN)
He really does have Irish roots! As for the CNN news, booyah. The entire country of law-abiding, taxpaying, hard working Americans have all slowed down and are now watching the car wreck on the shoulder of the road that is this Obama Administration. More like a 100 car pile up. Can't wait for the figures that come out once DeathCare starts up in full throttle again. This stupid merry band of thugs are so out of step with what most Americans think.
Posted by: Twinks at December 04, 2009 11:43 AM (LeFbD)
Posted by: Bosk at December 04, 2009 11:44 AM (pUO5u)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2009 11:44 AM (8B6Cr)
"There will be a time for businesses to make a profit, now is not the time".
If i ever uttered those words to my boss...I would not have the ability to waste his time as i am doing now.
damn italics button stuck.... jeeze!!
Posted by: dananjcon at December 04, 2009 11:46 AM (pr+up)
Not too well, last year I had 4" here at my house on Dec. 11, I was throwing snowballs at my dawg at 3am in the front yard he was going nuts. LOL
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 11:47 AM (81QXy)
Posted by: Algore, World Renowned Expert on Everything Sciency at December 04, 2009 11:47 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 11:49 AM (81QXy)
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at December 04, 2009 11:49 AM (qndXR)
for them to get bonuses," Obama said. "Now is not that time."
Posted by: billygoat at December 04, 2009 11:52 AM (Tq7Eu)
To get a regiment ready andl fully deployed into a war zone,takes approximately 6 months. All the officers and ncos have to work diligently.
30k- wow. 20 regiments should be infantry or its a waste of time and money.
A year of the Taliban selling Amway and you start getting ready to leave. Looks like an awful waste to me.
This looks like a rotation to me. Leave it to the politicians to screw it up.
Posted by: chicocano at December 04, 2009 11:52 AM (2n5cq)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 11:53 AM (81QXy)
Hey now, some VW drivers are sensible people. From what I've seen around the country, the Prius is now the vehicle of choice of leftie a-holes everywhere.
Posted by: mcassill at December 04, 2009 11:53 AM (OS2KR)
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 04, 2009 11:54 AM (pZEar)
I'll bet there was a lot of hand wringing at the Communist News Network over these numbers.
How do they hide the decline? I'm surprised they didn't "massage the numbers."
Posted by: Donna V. at December 04, 2009 11:54 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Charles I, The Lizard King at December 04, 2009 11:55 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: dananjcon at December 04, 2009 03:39 PM (pr+up)
Hawty-hawt...I'd cork it!
Posted by: billygoat at December 04, 2009 11:56 AM (Tq7Eu)
Like communists everywhere, they view poverty of the masses as a necessary condition for them increasing power. Higher unemployment is a feature of his policies, not a bug.
Posted by: mcassill at December 04, 2009 11:56 AM (OS2KR)
Posted by: Truman North at December 04, 2009 11:57 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 11:57 AM (81QXy)
Google Julia Corker and you can find on the first page of hits pictures of her kissing girls and smoking pot.
She is smoking hot.
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 04, 2009 11:58 AM (SqAkN)
Well. That queers up the whole Copenhagen prostitute gig.
Posted by: Dansk Prostitueret at December 04, 2009 11:58 AM (NtiET)
ROFLMAO. The Mrs. and I were discussing the possibility of a new car yesterday; she asked about a Subaru and I replied that she isn't nearly butch enough for one of those.
Posted by: mcassill at December 04, 2009 11:58 AM (OS2KR)
The man who made people across the country despise Elmer Fudd and who singlehandedly put the jackass in... well... jackass, is toast.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 04, 2009 11:59 AM (RkRxq)
'Michelle Obama Wore Clothes to Light the Christmas Tree'
Thank all the gods.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 04, 2009 12:00 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: mcassill at December 04, 2009 12:01 PM (OS2KR)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 04, 2009 12:01 PM (SqAkN)
Posted by: Truman North at December 04, 2009 03:57 PM (e8YaH)
I've been told they all drive Subaru Foresters...
Posted by: Slick Willie at December 04, 2009 12:03 PM (Tq7Eu)
Yup. Agree 100%
Posted by: Ellen Degeneris at December 04, 2009 12:07 PM (wOGfT)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 12:07 PM (81QXy)
I need to get me one of those.
Posted by: Merideth Baxter at December 04, 2009 12:07 PM (wOGfT)
'Nam Grunt
During my time at Fort Sam in the late 60s there was a snowfall. Maybe an inch. Cars were on the sidewalks and everyplace else you don't expect them to be. Being from Colorado I found it amusing.
Posted by: Ronster at December 04, 2009 12:09 PM (Z1Tmd)
The comments alone are enough to make you want to claw your face. These women drool and slobber over the beauty that is Michelle & the adorable First Family!!!111!! All I can think when I read that gak is that they have no idea these people are sending their country into total ruin.
Posted by: Twinks at December 04, 2009 12:09 PM (LeFbD)
Posted by: Gibbsy at December 04, 2009 12:09 PM (Tq7Eu)
I posted it to the Headlines thread yesterday.
Yeah, the whole country is going down like a Dansk Prostitueret on Phil Jones, but at least when we're starving to death in the dark, we'll know it's all worth it because Michelle's kids look adorable.I thought most of the accessories looked like cat toys. Criminally overpriced cat toys.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 04, 2009 12:13 PM (NtiET)
104 I could put a Suburu in the bed of my Dodge Ram and save you the drive! haha
Yeah and I could put your Dodge Ram in the bed of my F350 and you could ride in a real truck.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 04, 2009 12:13 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 12:14 PM (81QXy)
Posted by: Pale 'n Squeel at December 04, 2009 12:15 PM (E725N)
118 115,
Touche', I've always owned a Ford but this new Dodge truck was a heck of a deal.
Yeah I was just tweeking. I like the Dodge. It's a good looking truck.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 04, 2009 12:18 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 04, 2009 12:18 PM (SqAkN)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 04, 2009 12:20 PM (W0eGJ)
My trade in was a F-150 4x4 w/300k on it and never broke down, so there's that, hope I can get half that from this beauty.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 12:20 PM (81QXy)
Posted by: joncelli at December 04, 2009 02:55 PM (RD7QR)
Mine too.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at December 04, 2009 12:21 PM (mka2b)
LGF's web traffic is declining steadily. There was a spike after the "break with the right" post. Long term trend is down, down, down.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 04, 2009 12:25 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 12:25 PM (81QXy)
Heh someone at work (where I am not overtly out) asked me if I was getting a Subaru and I laughed and laughed and laughed.
Posted by: alexthechick at December 04, 2009 12:26 PM (8WZWv)
Posted by: Jim at December 04, 2009 12:26 PM (E725N)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 12:32 PM (81QXy)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 03:53 PM (81QXy)
You're missing some great weather here. It's under freezing today and snow all next week. This damn global warming climate change!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2009 12:34 PM (8B6Cr)
Posted by: auinsc at December 04, 2009 12:35 PM (EI1Mm)
I take it you aren't butch enough either? ;-)
Posted by: mcassill at December 04, 2009 12:41 PM (OS2KR)
Oh, wrong blog...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 04, 2009 12:51 PM (1hM1d)
122 119,
My trade in was a F-150 4x4 w/300k on it and never broke down, so there's that, hope I can get half that from this beauty.
Yep - I truly luv my Ford. Once this one is gone, I want another one. Maybe one with a bit higher CO2 output so I can enjoy the warmth.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 04, 2009 12:51 PM (RkRxq)
I drive a Lesbaru too. They're good cars, dammit! People have an almost instinctive hatred of Lesbaru drivers.
Posted by: Beppo at December 04, 2009 12:51 PM (KLwh4)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 04, 2009 12:52 PM (GbmcL)
or not.....
Posted by: TheGarbone at December 04, 2009 01:13 PM (DpCj+)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 04, 2009 01:17 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Neo at December 04, 2009 01:23 PM (tE8FB)
Ras is in a range of 45-47. The range used to be 47-49. He's not moving up. Gallup hasn't polled well in years, so I wouldn't look at that number and just look at the longer term trend from them, its down and thats all you need to worry about from Gallup. Even kos is having trouble making up good numbers for Obama. I wonder just how bad the internal polls look for Obama.
The question is, what is the magic number that finally kills the health care takeover?
Posted by: Just Another Poster at December 04, 2009 01:24 PM (NgoAe)
Some folks may (temporarily) become aware there really is no such thing as Santa Claus (or a free lunch). Don't expect too many from the political spectrum to make much about how there isn't a Santa Claus. To many politicians make living trying to be a year round Santa Claus, buying votes with money taken from other hard working taxpayers.
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http://www.quantcast.com/ace.mu.nu
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