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December 15, 2009

It's Official: Obama Moving Guantanamo Bay Detainees to Illinois
— Ace

Out of the corrupt, socialist frying pan and into the corrupt, socialist fire.

The critical step toward fulfilling President Obama's pledge to shut the Guantanamo detention center will be announced Tuesday, said the official, who reported that Obama has ordered the acquisition of the eight-year-old Thomson Correctional Center, about 150 miles northwest of Chicago.
Obama made the move despite the objections of Illinois Republicans, who fear the transfer of prisoners -- some for indefinite detention, some for trial -- could make the state a target for terrorists. Rep. Mark Kirk has called the move "an unnecessary risk."
In telegraphing the announcement, the official said closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay "is essential to protecting our national security and helping our troops by removing a deadly recruiting tool from the hands of al- Qaeda."

Oy. How far up Obama's butt do you think that guy stuck his head? 'Cause sure as shit, it's not going to give Al Qaida a recruiting tool to hold terrorists in "Thomson Correctional" instead of Guantanamo Bay, right?

Note the line: "some for indefinite detention, some for trial." If by "indefinite detention" you mean, "release sooner rather than later" because now they're on U.S. soil and entitled to greater due process protections than they otherwise would have been, then, sure, their detention is "indefinite."

Oh, but there is a sticking point. Obama is announcing this like it's a done deal. It's not:

Before prisoners can be moved, Congress must vote to allow detainees to be housed on U.S. soil for reasons other than trial.
The administration envisions the prison grounds in rural Thomson, close to the Mississippi River, where the former prisoners can stow away on a riverboat before taking a slow boat to north Africa.

I may have altered that last bit. Maybe.

No this is not a double post. This is so important I thought I'd mention it twice. Once for the early risers and once for those of us who sleep 'til noon. Except today I was up before noon. Really.

Posted by: Ace at 09:25 AM | Comments (74)
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1 The media wants to focus on the security risks. The real danger is the legal precedent of giving terrorists full constitutional rights.

Posted by: the real joe at December 15, 2009 09:27 AM (rFTt2)

2 First! Where's my bacons?

Posted by: the real joe at December 15, 2009 09:27 AM (rFTt2)

3 Does anybody else get the sense that Obama has a team of "ghost presidents"?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 09:27 AM (T0NGe)

4 Finally we'll be able to get decent kababs and falafel in Thomson!

'One #3 special, easy on the gelignite this time, Ahmed.'

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at December 15, 2009 09:28 AM (aC0uO)

In telegraphing the announcement, the official said closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay "is essential to protecting our national security and helping our troops by removing a deadly recruiting tool from the hands of al- Qaeda."

Yes, they will love us now.

My head hurts.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2009 09:28 AM (B+qrE)

6 hahahahaha

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 15, 2009 09:29 AM (Wh0W+)

7 They're going to need to build more hotels for the army of ACLU lawyers that will swarm to the place.

Posted by: bulwark at December 15, 2009 09:29 AM (jvrmc)

8 I wish a reporter would ask B+arack what, besides the nameplate over the jail, is the reason to move these prisoners.

Posted by: Schwalbe at December 15, 2009 09:29 AM (UU0OF)

9
This has to go to a vote?

Won't. That. Be. Rich.

Posted by: President Informercial at December 15, 2009 09:30 AM (z37MR)

10 They're going to need to build more hotels for the army of ACLU lawyers that will swarm to the place. Posted by: bulwark at December 15, 2009 01:29 PM (jvrmc) ACLU lawyers? Fuck em, let em sleep in tents in the snow

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 09:30 AM (0GFWk)

removing a deadly recruiting tool from the hands of al- Qaeda

Ya know, sometimes it isn't "location, location, location."

Fools.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 15, 2009 09:31 AM (Be4xl)

12 I wish a reporter would ask B+arack what, besides the nameplate over the jail, is the reason to move these prisoners.

JOBS JOBS JOBS _{for us}.

Posted by: PR Industry at December 15, 2009 09:31 AM (GtYrq)

13 "In telegraphing the announcement, the official said closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay "is essential to protecting our national security and helping our troops by removing a deadly recruiting tool from the hands of al- Qaeda."

If we're so afraid of hurting al-Qaeda's feelings, why don't we just let all the prisoners go. I mean, the will still be detained, face trials, and possibly death sentences, so won't those now be the new recruiting tools?

Does anyone in this administration think more than 1 move deep?

Posted by: The Hammer at December 15, 2009 09:31 AM (YBTwf)

14 Congress has to vote to approve AND PAY for it. 2010 should be quite an election year.

Posted by: arb at December 15, 2009 09:31 AM (o6GU7)

15 So the multiple aces don't read the blog, either?

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2009 09:32 AM (zyyJm)

16
I think we're goetting playeded by the Inner_Circle.

Posted by: President Informercial at December 15, 2009 09:34 AM (z37MR)

17
ACLU lawyers? Fuck em, let em sleep in tents in the snow

We're talking about the Obama administration,he'll probably build them luxury resorts.

Posted by: bulwark at December 15, 2009 09:35 AM (jvrmc)

18 ACLU lawyers? Fuck em, let em sleep in tents in the snow

Those scumbags don't even deserve tents.

Posted by: mcassill at December 15, 2009 09:35 AM (OS2KR)

19 "In telegraphing the announcement, the official said...."

What, they don't use telephones anymore? We're back to telegraphs and those little clicky buttons?

Posted by: Intrepid at December 15, 2009 09:35 AM (92zkk)

So the multiple aces don't read the blog, either?

Comment winner--2009.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2009 09:36 AM (B+qrE)

It had to happen, I suppose that the seemingly inachievable level of "High Jedi Master of the Oxymoron" has been reached. I had so hoped that it would have been done by a Trig birther.

How will I live with this disappointment?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 15, 2009 09:36 AM (RkRxq)

22 How does moving terrorists from Cuba to a Chicago suburb "remove a recruiting tool?" They just arrested two Chicagoan jihadis for their part in the Mumbai Massacre. Palestinian suicide bombers went to Harold Washington College in downtown Chicago. Now the domestic jihadis have their "recruiting tools" within convenient driving distance.

From the same people who brought you the logic of "spend your way out of a deficit."

Posted by: Crusty at December 15, 2009 09:37 AM (GvSpB)

23 Fuck Illinois! After all, they voted for their boy blunder with their 21 EC votes, let them live with the results...

Posted by: Assman at December 15, 2009 09:38 AM (OCK4B)

24 Can't move them to Chicago - Muslims don't believe in Toddlin'.

Posted by: Intrepid at December 15, 2009 09:38 AM (92zkk)

25 Um, the terrorists had a deadly recruiting tool before 9/11 and GTMO, that would be THEMSELVES. And whatever dastardly evil they chose to pile upon their recruits-we will kill your mother/sister/wife/children, we will rape your mother/sister/wife/children, we will (name your evil). So moving GTMO detainees to the US is going to STOP this? How? No really, how? Because, the detainees are still detained, but they are detained IN the US, with its porous, unwatched borders. Tell me again, how is this going to make America safer?

Posted by: mokimoki at December 15, 2009 09:39 AM (IrV7s)

26 Related satire: Obama Brings "Terrorist Olympians" to Home State as "Consolation Prize" for His Failure to Bring Olympics to Chicago: tinyurl.com/yc6h2nl

Posted by: Justin Camp at December 15, 2009 09:40 AM (nF4Jh)

27 Which of Illinois' newest residents (resident and therefore just as qualified) will be appointed to Ob+ma's old seat?

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2009 09:42 AM (FcR7P)

28 They're going to need to build more hotels for the army of ACLU lawyers that will swarm to the place.

Have you looked up Thomson on a map? The lawyers and "journalists" will bunk back in civilization and commute.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 15, 2009 09:42 AM (NtiET)

29 The GOP campaign commercials are writing themselves.

Posted by: Bugler at December 15, 2009 09:43 AM (YCVBL)

30 Wow, Circa, I am humbled to be even nominated. Not as much as I'd be humbled by the Nobel Peace Prize, mind you.

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2009 09:44 AM (zyyJm)

31 This is nuts for so many reasons.

Posted by: Seriously at December 15, 2009 09:46 AM (cmkNI)

32 I'm looking for something nice, but snarky to say to my senators, but I drawing a blank...

Posted by: CUS at December 15, 2009 09:46 AM (wOGfT)

33 I hope the 'indefinite' in indefinite detention refers to the period of time and not the security they'll use. "Just promise to call us weekly and don't get on any planes, ok?"

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2009 09:47 AM (FcR7P)

34 Obama's not anti-war, he's just on the other side.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at December 15, 2009 09:48 AM (yUybe)

35 "Unfortunately, the GOP will find a way to screw the pooch." Quite possible, yes.

Posted by: Bugler at December 15, 2009 09:54 AM (YCVBL)

The Illinois congressman whose northwestern district includes the prison that the Obama administration said today it will buy to hold terrorist suspects now at Guantanamo Bay said he doesn't like the idea but there's nothing he can do to stop it.

Republican Don Manzullo has two major complaints concerning federal purchase of the almost empty state Thomson prison. One is the haste with which the White House chose the site; the other is what he characterized as its lack of responsiveness to the many emerging questions.

He added: "I've been asking along: If the reason for closing Gitmo is it represents a severe security threat that is used to attract terrorists as a recruiting tool, what guarantee do we have that the hatred and vitriol and animosity that the terrorists have toward Guantanamo Bay will not transfer to Thomson, Ill.?"

It's obvious that Don Manzullo is a racist and counter-revolutionary.

Posted by: TheQuietman at December 15, 2009 09:55 AM (1Jaio)

37 Lefties are getting it all.
one sixth of the economy through Obama care, govt cars, govt banks, terrorists close and snuggly, a govt.that only backs dictatorships.
George Soros and enough perverts to make Manson happy calling the shots in education, health, business every part of American life. Have given the enemy in Afg. every heads up, miranda rights, date of leaving, etc. Earmarks galore, pay raises, ACORN and SEIU are going to get ins. pensions etc. paid by taxpayers....illegals are getting their mcmansions, paid for by taxpayers, they will be citizens soon. But extra special citizens, Indians got 3 billion....

Explain to me why they are so angry....

Posted by: non_dhimmie at December 15, 2009 09:55 AM (zACGu)

38 Can someone explain the congressional action required to allow this? If real, up-or-down votes are required in both houses, that could be good for the home team.

Posted by: Bugler at December 15, 2009 09:56 AM (YCVBL)

39 It's stuff like this that makes me absolutely certain that this administration is deliberately formulating policy intended to undermine American sovereignty. There can be no other explanation for the seemingly endless stream of horrible decision-making emanating from the Oval Orifice.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 15, 2009 10:03 AM (554T5)

40 Having a bunch of deranged Islamic Militants in Illinois will only draw more deranged Islamic Militants into the area. Prison break in 3....2.....1.....

Posted by: izoneguy at December 15, 2009 10:03 AM (4B2Bd)

Explain to me why they are so angry....

Conservatives still exist.

Posted by: wiserbud at December 15, 2009 10:04 AM (tWf3S)

42 @bulwark "They're going to need to build more hotels for the army of ACLU lawyers that will swarm to the place." Heh. No kidding. After this goes through, just watch to see who buys up property and who lands a hotel chain deal. After all, what's the point of endangering the country if you can't enrich a few friends and allies?

Posted by: Brewdog at December 15, 2009 10:04 AM (jg+Fr)

43 Hey, anybody know if there's a bus route that goes to Thompson? Thanks. Oh, we totally love America now.

Posted by: Dearborn, Michigan at December 15, 2009 10:08 AM (FcR7P)

44 #8 First it was duh1, then BarriO, and thanks to You! .....B+arack!!!

YES!

Posted by: torabora at December 15, 2009 10:08 AM (HXufv)

45 Where's the nearest Mosque to Thompson Illinois USA? please

Posted by: Akmed the Terrorist at December 15, 2009 10:15 AM (HXufv)

Western Illinois has the highest concentration of hog farms my nose has ever smelled. They're within slaughtering distance of Dubuque. Mark my words--this is part of the war on bacon.

Posted by: B+g Fat Meanie at December 15, 2009 10:16 AM (DPM1U)

47 Notice the first two letters of my name are "A" and "K"??? cute huh?

Posted by: Akmed the Terrorist at December 15, 2009 10:17 AM (HXufv)

48 And say what you want about Blago, but as a Serbian he never would have stood for this. I hope he runs against Obama in the 2012 primary.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 15, 2009 10:17 AM (DPM1U)

49 In other news, catastrophic climate change isn't an emergency after all.

So we can eliminate that as a "root cause" of terrorism, right?

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 15, 2009 10:20 AM (NtiET)

50 Where's the nearest Mosque to Thompson Illinois USA? please

Hrm. I figured after you busted out you'd rather to go Dearborn or NYC or Oregon or back home, but here you go.

Posted by: HeideRadieschen at December 15, 2009 10:23 AM (NtiET)

51 Ace is the place! For the helpful hardware man!

Posted by: John Madden at December 15, 2009 10:25 AM (NtiET)

52 Crap! wrong thread!

Posted by: Victim of my own Wit at December 15, 2009 10:25 AM (NtiET)

53 For the first time in my life, I'm proud to be an Illinoisan....

...as in future red state.

Posted by: dandoz at December 15, 2009 10:37 AM (WULfn)

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Grumpy Old Carter at December 15, 2009 10:38 AM (DPhAg)

55 "Before prisoners can be moved, Congress must vote to allow detainees to be housed on U.S. soil for reasons other than trial."

Yeah, yeah, yeah, separation of powers, but that fades away when social justice is at stake (and we need to keep the right people in office).

Posted by: B+ in Constitutional Law at December 15, 2009 10:47 AM (Y3C5w)

56 In "ballpark" solar system kinda terms, IL is pretty similar to Gitmo, right?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 15, 2009 10:57 AM (KgWin)

57 Markie Marxist sez: "Of course, we have to move the Gitmo detainees to the U.S. before we can turn them into registered Democrats. It's just common communist sense."

Posted by: Chas at December 15, 2009 11:06 AM (yjDfo)

58 Normally I'd be outraged, but Obaka has killed it for me, at least for a while. He really has me on outrage overload. SO it's more like "yeah, crazy, but it's to be expected". Be prepared for more of this stuff, with outrage overload, on the way, unless and until Obaka and his party get the electoral smackdown they need and deserve.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 15, 2009 11:16 AM (lYKj1)

59 Why dont they move to WASHINGTOM D.C. to be close to their biggist supporters

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 15, 2009 12:02 PM (kiQZz)

60 Gonna get me a forged Syrian passport, a beard, some jihadist website surfing patterns and... presto!

Say hello to my brand new six figure gig as a certified FBI-approved Thompson Correctional Center Imam/Nutritional Advocate/TiVo Repairman.

Posted by: gjz at December 15, 2009 12:09 PM (GdqSP)

61 So, the boyz is moving from Gitmo to T-Mo, eh? Couldn't have happened to a nicer more corrupt state.

Have fun with that bag of coal you're getting this Christmas, Illinois.

Posted by: Texas Pete at December 15, 2009 12:38 PM (giU14)

62 my state is not messed up enough, could we have some terrorists please?

Posted by: Illinois Resident at December 15, 2009 12:59 PM (MaNzU)

Lemme see here. I a jihadist thug esapes from Gitmo, the chances that he can swim to US soil is kinda slim. If one slithers out of Thomson Correctional Facility, that means the slug is already on US soil. Wowzer!

I think Bank Robber is a much more honest profession than being a US Federal Office Holder. At least the armed robber isn't pretending to help.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 15, 2009 02:41 PM (8NGHm)

64 This is gonna win Mark Kirk (R) Obama's old senate seat, for sure He's been all over it from the day Thomson was announced as a "maybe". R's in Illinois have all been pretty solid and vocal against this plan to move the terrorists from Gitmo . Rasmussen poll shows majority of Illinoisans are against it, too.

Posted by: ratskeller at December 15, 2009 02:42 PM (txAGR)

65 GREAT! Now we'll have desciples of the prophet of a ROCK - with a mein kamph bible - spreading the word in US prisons.

Posted by: Dianne at December 15, 2009 03:25 PM (FcncT)

66 I'm shopping for a new state. It's bad enough that we've been ruled by the political/functional criminal class [frequently one and the same in IL] for ages, and now we have the terrorists moving in. It's getting harder to tell the two apart, their methods are so similar.

Posted by: flodigarry at December 15, 2009 05:45 PM (Kd0Il)

67 Chicago would have fucked up the Olympics, but the terrorists of Gitmo will feel right at home in High Park.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 15, 2009 06:30 PM (mHQ7T)

68 Come on. This just proves B+ isn't partisan. Can you imagine any other president shitting on his home state and solidly in his corner this bad??? I mean really, if it was a RED state, it would make sense. I guess B+ knows Illinoisans are dumb fucking idiots. I mean after all, they have been wallowing in his shit for years, why expect them to object now?

No offense to the three Illinoisans that aren't idiots.

Posted by: NotMe! at December 15, 2009 07:03 PM (z4N6v)

69 Sorry so late to post, pst time.

U.S. Rep Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich, said: The Administration informed us last night that it intends to move hard-core al Qaeda terrorists to the United States for detention, even though right now that use of funds is prohibited by law.

When has that stopped them?

Maybe this is a time for the Repubs to go to the Supreme Court? Just like Honduras and Zelaya.

Really, that's what the court is for, as a check and balance of powers.

If the Executive Branch is overstepping their authority, and ignoring the Legislative Branch's authority (denial) of funding, the Court needs to decide. Otherwise, there's no stopping of Executive power.

Posted by: zella at December 16, 2009 02:05 AM (cBu94)

It is not about closing the jail/prison, BO intends to gift the entire US airbase to the Castro brothers, giving up our 99-year treaty rights. The prison is merely a smoke and mirror deal for the American people. The left knows what is up here.

"Closing Gitmo" means giving the Castros a big Kaawanza gift...a full-size American airbase.

Posted by: old lawyer at December 16, 2009 06:01 AM (23KZk)

71 Just put up a fence around some burned out section and let them be.
Minimum security will do. Just put a $10K bounty on each of them and see how long they last.

Posted by: Moon Doggy at December 16, 2009 06:32 AM (bFhna)

72 On Limbaugh today, a caller alleged that there's a nuclear facility within a prison break run in the sleepy little Illinois town.

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