1 Oh I thought this was going to be about the Sheriff's crusade against illegal immigration.

2
Are we Politically Correct about 'undocumented immigrants' at AoS now, too?

3

It was Arpaio's groupies who turned me off the Tea Party movement. They have nothing but hate for people who are different. Arpaio encourages this for notoriety.

4

1 EC,

me too....

I guess it just goes to show you how dangerous out of control lawyers with vendettas having access to overreaching law can be....

 

hey wait a minute that describes somebody.....

5 I'm a regular poster posting anonymously for the first time (I don't need the tickets). As a conservative in Arizona, I have long been frustrated by conservatives outside of the state (including in my own family), idolizing Arpaio.

Gov. Arpaio would be a disaster.  It would also tear apart our weak state Republican Party.  Arpaio endorsed Napailtano for Gov. a while back, even pissing of McCain. If you are too much of a RINO for McCain, that is serious.

6 Is that the same sheriff who actually goes after illegal aliens? If so...hope he wins whatever this is about.

7

3 Zimriel,

we must be going to different tea parties....

 

saw precisely ZERO anti "undocumented migrant" signs at 9/12 in DC saw plenty about healthcare, Barry's buying bonanza with regards to companies, and a general rage at donk overreach but no "go home amigo" ones.

8

5 Guy from Az,

yeah Joe is a mixed bag....had a friend at Huachuca explain to me that there is more to him than meets the eye.

9 put a leash on your butt-buddy Arpaio

I thought we weren't supposed to use gay sex stuff as a slur anymore, unless it's funny.

10 Anyone who makes prisoners wear pink and sleep in tents can't be all bad.

11 Actually (and without knowing the community), this is entirely possible. My parents lived for a few years in the town of Eufaula, Oklahoma. In that time, the long term mayor was convicted of embezzling $18 million in state funds for a water park project. Two (or maybe three) council members were also convicted; and that was not the first project any of them were involved with. The sheriff and chief of police were both convicted or investigated for drug trafficking, along with the chief of police and mayor of a nearby town. (Eufaula-McAlester-Paris, Texas drug corridor. Seriously.) And this was all in a 2-year span.

If a town winks at corruption, it can be surprising how many people become corrupt and how quickly, and how committed they are to covering each other's tails.

For example, the mayor with the embezzling? They never did find the money, and he immediately pled guilty, claiming sole responsibility. When he was let out of prison after 3 years, he moved to Houston .... where one of the suspected but exonerated-by-his-confession councilers had moved and gave the mayor a cushy, do-nothing job for $500K a year.

Just to help out a friend, you know.

(I am going by the Eufaula rumor mill, so grain of salt.)

12

9,

it was Gabe so it's ok...the words have no power coming from somebody who is not a honky hetero

13 Wow. That was really long and convoluted. I've always thought Arpaio's tough tactics with criminals were a welcome change from all the coddling going on elsewhere.

14 This looks like a job for Wilfred Brimley to come in to find out "what in the good Christ is going on" and to collect someone's ass for his briefcase.

Seriously, this reads like the plot for Absence of Malice.

15 TC at December 11, 2009 09:55 AM (DYJjQ)

...and any county sheriff that enforces immigration law can't be all bad.

16 And while youÂ’re at it, put a leash on your butt-buddy Arpaio.

Homophobe.

17 These guys are stone cold crazy and bad lawyers to boot.

18 For the fans of Arpaio's thuggery, read the first three paragraphs here.

19 BURBERRY Scarf | CD Keys

20

#6, no you don't.   I also have friends and family in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area and while Arpaio is great at putting on publicity stunts for the press, there's also a disturbing contempt for the actual law underneath many of his actions.  You really believe he "cares" about illegal immigration?  Don't be such an easy mark, that entire campaign of his is just because he thinks he can ride that issue to the Governor's office, which is what he really wants.  And once he gets that he intends to pack every department with his friends and cronies like Thomas, and Arizona is going to see a wave of corruption that will destroy the GOP forever in that state.

This case is the perfect example of his gamesmanship - this lawsuit is an absolute legal embarrasment for anyone to file, much more an actual county attorney.  The one saving grace is that this is so bad that Thomas could soon face state and maybe federal sanctions for malicious prosecution among other things.  The part where he accuses judges of being in on the alleged corruption - let me tell you something about the legal system;  *NO* Judge at any level - county, state, federal - looks kindly on anyone who acccuses any judge of corruption without very hard proof, and they almost always act to slap down whoever does this as fast and as hard as they can.  That's why this lawsuit will go nowhere, and I would not now be surprised to see a move to have Thomas officially disbarred.  If he has proof then he can get away with it, but if he's making official criminal charges with no proof - then he should face criminal charges himself.

And the fact that Arpaio is standing behind this makes me see him as some kind of right-wing Hugo Chavez wannabe more than anything else.  Don't believe that just because someone talks tough that they're actually on your side. 

21 There's somewhere worse than Luzerne County?  Yay!

22
Arpaio's thuggery?

This is why you're a terrible and melodramatic blogger, Gabriel.

23 They're building a sixteen story building with only 32 court rooms?

The New Bronx county courthouse has 47 court rooms in nine stories.

Hmmm. What are they doing with the rest of the space.

Also, Arizona is running a 2 Billion dollar deficit. Do they really
need this new tower?

24 There's somewhere worse than Luzerne County?  Yay!

FWIW, the sentiment expressed in #20 is why the Judges got away with it for so long.  Despite sockpuppet Charles Johnson's protestations, there is no higher standard of proof when it comes to Judges.

25 Changer 1701 and others who think that Arpaio's fabulous for going after illegals ~

I doubt you ever lived in AZ, or ever had to deal with this clown (and before you even start....no, never got arrested by him, none of my friends or family ever did, either ~ some of them are even in law enforcement for other agencies). 

He is about as narcissistic as Oblahblah, but has maybe 1/4 the intelligence.  And I'm being kind about the IQ estimate.  He isn't going after illegals because he cares about the border.  He does care about getting his bloated mug up on the screen or in the paper, and if this is what he has to do to do that, he will.  This putz is a huge, gigantic douchenozzle who has caused the county millions because he doesn't think the Constitution applies to him or his policies (especially in his jails).  Think about your stereotypical mean & power hungry Southern lawman, and multiply it by 3.  That's Arpaio. 

He keeps getting re-elected due to comatose, brain dead morons in Sun City/Seizure World who buy into all that "Toughest Sheriff in America" bullshit, and because he will slander anyone who dares to run against him in his elections (Saban was a classic example ~ trying to make it seem like he had an affair with his stepmom when she, in fact, was sexually abusing him as a young man.  Stay classy, Joe, stay classy.) 

Hell, I remember when he first ran and said he would only serve two terms.  That was, oh, I think about six terms ago.  You can't trust him as far as you can throw him, he's paranoid as hell, and unfortunately the only way he's gonna leave the Sheriff's office is in handcuffs or in a pine box.   

I hope he loses, big.  And goes off in the sunset with his favorite butt-boy, Hendershott, his 500 lb sidekick.  (Ok, maybe he's 450 lbs, but I'm in the ballpark there....)

26 18 For the fans of Arpaio's thuggery, read the first three paragraphs here.

OK so the guy is lawless. I can't defend him from a lot of what he's been accused of doing, if the accusations are true. But there's another kind of lawlessness that we can't forget about. Most other politicians and civil authorities are turning a blind eye to illegal immigration in this country. 750,000 illegals are crossing our southern border every year. Worse, they are finding their way into government programs for the poor. This form of lawlessness is far more damaging than some over-the-top antics of a man who is at least doing his best to secure the border.

27 Don't be throwing gay faggot slews at Sheriff Joe now. Fag jokes are verboten. At least he rounds up illegal aliens and send back where came from.

28 I was questioning my support of the toughest sheriff in the world, until I read the name Conley Wolfswinkle. If you are linked with that guy, you need to be investigated by Sheriff Joe.  Enough said.  Go get em Joe!

29 There is a lot being left out of this post.  I agree that Thomas and Arpaio seem petty and like they are on a witch hunt but they have a point.  Maricopa County does not have a need nor the money for the Court Towers.

Also, a couple of members of the board of supervisors have been involved in some pretty shady dealings over the years.  Just check out Don Stapley and Mary Rose Wilcox.  Some how they keep making money off of legislation they pass.

There  is "good ol boys" club going on with the board of supervisors.



 

30 I agree that Thomas and Arpaio seem petty and like they are on a witch hunt but they have a point.  Maricopa County does not have a need nor the money for the Court Towers.

Except that's not a decision for a sheriff and a county attorney.

If they have evidence of a crime, make arrests and prosecute but filling a cheesy suit that even one of the complainants, who is the county attorney, can't actually explain is not the way to go.

31

Learn something new everyday (I've heard nothing but glowing reports about Sheriff Joe from folks I know in AZ/NM). 

Can we please have a pragmatic, tough, individualistic, at least somewhat upright person run for some office in this country...who doesn't get outed by their own party as some sort of scammer and slimeball?

32 Gabriel, you're not going "LGF" on us are you?

33

Do you know how many lawsuits have come up against Arpaio?  Especially from people like Zimriel who just want to throw out another smear against him?  I wonder where all the emotion and condescension are coming from Gabriel.  Seems to me that Arpaio eventually has to do something to brush back all the crap that is coming his way.  If people don't like the way he's doing his job then they can vote him and his supporters out of office.  So far they haven't.  I wonder why all the crosshairs on him and these types of criticisms.  If you don't like his ass, then find soembody that you think is better and go through the proper channel to replace him via a election.  Until then, take that axe you have to grind and shove it up your backside.

Consequently, claims of racism against people like Arpaio (who is basically honorable) are losing any impact.  If you want to see everything through the prism of race (i.e Zimriel) - you are the problem. 

34

seems like Sherriff Joe's detractors are becoming more determined...

i don't care if he is a grandstander (aren't all pols?), i don't care if he holds grudges, i don't care if he is doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons.

none of it matters as long as he keeps doing the right things, Gabe says that what his is doing now is wrong, I disagree.

35 it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you...

36 Ace might as well start banning people, put a tree up instead of a shull and cross it with flowers instead of knives. Oh, and the H.L. Mencken quote needs to be replaced with a rainbow and a smiley face.

37 Not that there is anything wrong with that...

38 This is a pretty one-sided post, and of course it is rife with spelling errors per usual around here. I like the homo slur too, in direct contradiction to Ace's endless hand wringing dirges on that subject.

There are legitimate concerns about corruption regarding the court tower project, a simple Google search would have confirmed that.  The charges are not all coming from Arpaio either.  I am not sure if a RICO case was the way to go, but Arpaio has endured his share of political harassment so maybe this is his way of fighting back.

Whatever Arpaio's motivations may be regarding illegal immigration, at least he was willing to take the issue on.  He would not be the first or last guy with political ambitions to use an issue to further his career.  We have some naive people here that seem to think politicians should always be sincere in their positions.  Many of them are not, although they may have a basic philosophical agreement with an issue.  The best we can hope for sometimes is they pander to OUR position.

I have no doubt in my mind that Arpaio's actions has saved lives in Arizona and elsewhere.  We know there is an enormous illegal immigrant crime problem (not saying they are all criminals in the violent sense), his efforts to lock them up or send them back is both a deterrent and preventative in that these people cannot commit crimes here if they are locked up or back in Mexico or wherever they came from.

I don't live in Arizona but I know people who do and Joe has a base of support there, obviously he has his detractors too.  The fact is that our mainstream politicians have abandoned us on this issue.  They are refusing to fulfill their constitutional duties regarding border security.  Joe makes news because he is willing to enforce the law.  If people don't like his tactics that is fine but his notoriety is a symptom of the general lack of competence by other people in government.  THOSE people are willing to allow massive law breaking to pander to the Hispanic voting block.  Who is worse?

39 And I am with #33.  Maybe Gabe should take some time and look into all the petty lawsuits against Arpaio.  I think Arpaio had to spend somewhere around 2 million of the tax payer's dollars last year defending lawsuits thrown against him.

And I don't think a single one stuck.

40 I lost a lot of respect for Sheriff Joe when I became aware of that story about the court documents being swiped by one of his deputies.

Maybe an 80-100 percent turnover in the next elections will correct these problems.

41

to me this seems similar to the tactics of the Left, where ppl they like are held to no standards and ppl they decide they don't like are held to an impossibly high standard.

 

42 @bingpinnkfluffybunny I live in Maricopa County and am not hispanic and couldn't agree more with your assesment. Actually I was pleasantly surprised by Gabe's analysis... most right leaning ppl seem to have been duped by this camera whore.

43 Do you know how many lawsuits have come up against Arpaio?  Especially from people like Zimriel who just want to throw out another smear against him?

Arpaio is a narcissistic whore whose publicity stunts and abuse of authority have cost the taxpayers over $40 million to settle the various lawsuits. And that high figure suggests the suits weren't of the frivolous type that were thrown at Sarah Palin.

Conservatives need to distance themselves from this clown.

44 Another comment on this.  It seems that Gabe just looked into this single incident instead of all the issues surrounding the board of supervisors.

Again, they are some shady things go on and each time it is brought into the light something else gets discovered.  It may not be the most popular way of going after greed and corruption in the government but it might be the only way right now.

45 Clock tower? Is this a "Back to the Future" fan script?

46 For every person defending Arpaio, go watch this.

For those that don't, it's the court video of a sheriff's deputy going over and taking documents from defense counsel's table while she is speaking to the judge.  I would hope I don't have to point out that you can't do that. 

The worst part was not only was the deputy unrepentant, the judge did nothing about it.  I don't care if it was Manson up there, you can't do that. 

47

party insiders hate ppl like Joe and Sarah, they want to silence them, discredit them, just make them go away so they can go back to the old days where ppl left them alone to endlessly expand the size and power of the government.

that's why this hit-piece on Joe...

48 #46 Why don't you wait until all the details come out?

And yes the judge did something.  He put the deputy in jail and a court of appeals had to release him pending his appeal to the case.

There may very well be some wrong doing here but don't be so quick to judge and sentence.  The courts will work it out and if anyone did do something wrong then they will certainly face the consequences.

49

i watched it, but it's no worse than what the Progessives and their enablers do to the Constitution everyday.

and I don't see Gabe and co. going all ballistic on that...

50

Yes, I probably shouldn't have called them butt buddies. I could have just said BFFs.

Also, that Arpaio is tough on crime does not excuse his own abuses. He can be tough on crime without violating constitutional rights, sliming his opponents, using his department to seize anything he damn well pleases, and subverting the courts.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

51

since when does the excutive branch controll the purse strings of the nation?

the Constitution clearly states that the House is the only enitity allowed to expend the ppl's funds.

I'm not trying to change the subject, I'm just making a point.

it's easy pick on Joe, but all the fight goes out of ya when it comes down to the big issues.

52 Gabe,

He isn't the only one in AZ that oversteps his authority and abuses his position.

Again, I urge you to look into the dealing of the county board of supervisors.  There is a lot more going on then appears.

Take for instance Mary Rose Wilcox who voted to give funding to a non profit group and then received a loan from the very same non profit group.  Conflict of interest anyone?

Thomas and Arpaio are going after these types of backroom deals.  I know the method isn't all that popular but should greed and corruption be left unchecked?  People bring lawsuits against Arpaio all the time but suddenly his and Thomas' are somehow petty and weak.

53 This entire post is tripe. The worst I have ever seen on AoS. People here need to do independent research. If you don't live in Phoenix, or have not been following the history of what is happending in Phoenix, then STFU!

54

I'm so corn-fused, I thought the Sherrif was a good guy. Was not aware of all the back stories on Arpaio but i still think he's fightin the good fight..it takes a certain personallity to do what he is doing, if he was a wall flower people would be bashing him for being so.   I have to agree w/Ken Royall @ 38 he makes a solid case for the man.  

You gotta break few eggs to make an omelett.

55

Maybe the loudmouthed invader-sympathizers interrupting the meeting should have gotten tazed instead. That way the lawyer RINO squishies out there could be secure in knowing they were on the correct side of things, like John F. Kerry was.

56 Interesting read. If true, then I am sad to learn that the good sheriff is allowing his name to be tarnished. I've always kinda' liked Sheriff Joe knowing full-well that he's a PR expert. I do like the way he has thus far flipped the birdie to Obama and the DOJ.

57 Wait, didn't I delete my bookmarks for LGF? How'd I get here?

58 Heh. I lived in the Phoenix metro area in the eighties and early nineties. Let's just say that politics in Arizona is...different. It doesn't - quite - reach Twilight Zone levels of surreal, but it's close. Real close. ...which explains the political career of some guy by the name of McCain. (To really understand McCain, you have to understand politics and culture in Arizona.)

59 @21 - There's somewhere worse than Luzerne County?  Yay!

No.  There is not.

- Signed, Your Friend in Pike County.

60 Wow. just checked in . Thought it was LGF.This isn't a satire?  

61 "Also, that Arpaio is tough on crime does not excuse his own abuses. He can be tough on crime without violating constitutional rights, sliming his opponents, using his department to seize anything he damn well pleases, and subverting the courts."

More reckless charges with no supporting evidence. You have more concern over your little homophobic slur (nobody cares, they were chiding you because of Ace's new found political correctness) than the issue at hand.

Sliming his opponents?  As if he hasn't been slimed himself by those same opponents?  Seize anything he damn well pleases?  One incident of some guy who works for him taking stuff off of a table warrants that accusation?  Subverting the courts?  How so?  Violating constitutional rights?  Whose rights did he violate and when?  If all of this is true then the people of Arizona must be pretty damn stupid to keep re-electing him.

This post is a mess, I won't bother reading anything else from Gabriel Malor.

62 This is not LGF, this is LRS (see #56).

63

Since Gabe is Hispanic, it's no wonder he doesn't like Sheriff Arpaio

64

@62,

Your damn skippy. This post is boarder-line propoganda and I question the motive of Gabriel.

I am completey un-impressed.

If Gabriel doesn't live here in Phoenix, then there is no way he could possibly have any idea of the ins and outs of the Chaos that is happending in Phoenix, and with that, he should have never posted this....It's Crap!

 

 

65 STFU Whiner

So you are using the chickenhawk debating style?

66 underdown, thanks!

What the rest of you guys aren't seeming to get (aka the ones who are just okee dokee with everything he does as long as he rounds up them damn illegals) is that it's nothing new that Maricopa County has a ton of people who shouldn't be there, mainly from Mexico. 

He's worn out whatever mileage he could get out of feeding the inmates green bologna and making them wear pink boxers.  His chain gangs don't get national and international media any more.  The neon "vacancy" sign outside the jail?  Pffft.  You can get his book for maybe 50 cents on Amazon...shipping costs more than the book does now. 

He needs to get attention somehow.  He sure as hell can't get it by slashing crime rates in the parts of the county under his jurisdiction.  (Especially since they've gone up instead.  Yeah, he's a regular Eliot Ness.)  He can't do it by paying out millions to families of inmates that died under his system's care (funny enough...I've lived a couple places since I left AZ in 2005, and I don't recall ANY of their sheriffs having to pay out for things like strapping someone in a chair and cattle-prodding him to death because he was acting a little nuts....)

(BTW, shoey, you owe Sarah an apology for comparing her to this dingleberry.  She's never had to pay out one damn dime for killing someone in her custody AFAIK.  I know she's got an undeserved rep for being a dumb snow bunny, but she can read and understand the Constitution....and get this, she obeys it!  No shit!  Joe, on the other hand, can't be bothered.  And you want to keep him in office?)

So, he latches on to illegal immigrants.  No one likes 'em.  I don't like having to pay for their expenses, I don't like how some of them demanded that I speak to them in Spanish (and screamed about how their civil rights were being violated when no one could or would speak Spanish), and I don't like that they get preferential treatment in a lot of cases when compared to my LEGAL immigrant husband. 

He didn't care that they were cramming his jails for decades until he figured out he could get press coverage out of it.  He didn't care that his own deputies were dealing with all kinds of immigration issues instead of law enforcement issues forever until he could find a way to tart it up for media consumption.  He only got interested in it when that one veteran guy in the desert held a couple of illegals at gunpoint over by the rez for a while until immigration could pick them up....and he noticed that this guy was getting interviews.  Then...the light clicked on.  It became a "problem the Toughest Sheriff was going to solve".  The rest of the politically correct junta in Maricopa County weren't going to touch it...so, here goes Joe, especially once he figured out it polled well in East Mesa trailer parks. 

And the rubes fell for it.  Hell, if 52% could believe Oblahblah, there had to be plenty of idiots who would buy Joe's instant conversion to fighting illegal immigration (when he showed absolutely ZERO interest in the issue before). 

Just because he may have finally picked a cause that has merit, you can't overlook the rest of the crap he's pulled during his tenure.  Yep, the rest of the county is corrupt.  Maybe not to the level of Cook County, or New Orleans, but it's not for lack of trying.  That doesn't excuse his sorry record.  He's supposed to be the county's top cop.  If anything, he should be held to a higher standard than the rest of the maggots ruling the place.  He falls short of even that pathetic bar. 

Pull the blinders off and look a little closer at who you are supporting.       

67 So, Sherriff Joe does something that gives some folks viagra free hard-ons (rounding up illegals), so they're willing to give him a pass on a few 'minor' abuse of power issues. Wrong. Lot's of finger pointing saying "the County Board is rotten too!" If so, wouldn't you want someone that could effectively bring that to heel, instead of coming off like a buffoon because of some sort of "we're doing good here, so it's ok to cheat or be an idiot" approach? Toss them all out, and get back to the basics. Like following the law. I'll say that imo, Sherriff Joe could probably use some time wearing a pink jumpsuit eating PB&J in a tent behind a cyclone fence - anyone that oversees or condones the kind of culture that thinks it's ok for a deputy to rifle through a defense attorney's papers in open court, and then lie about what they were doing deserves a bit of a reality check. Because the bad deed on Wednesday wipes out all the good things from Monday and Tuesday. Regardless of which 'party' or political bent the jerk may be associated with. Find another hero. One that is actually heroic, okay? This guy is a self serving bloviated clown.

68 I live in AZ and there is no doubt about sherrif joe and his vendettas. I dont always agree with him but the one thing i do agree with him on is his "crusade" as was posted before on his illegal busts. The people of arizona elected him to do just that and thats what he intends to do and has done in the past. He pisses off pelosi which is enough for me to like the guy and he also pisses off the former "most powerful man in arizona" Jayno. He rubs all the right people in all the wrong places and isnt afraid to stand up for the decisions he has made. Need more people willing to do that imo.

69

Seize anything he damn well pleases? One incident of some guy who works for him taking stuff off of a table warrants that accusation?

One incident? Aren't you conveniently forgetting how he and a squad of deputies went into the county's computer center to seize control of the system.  The system which I'm sure only coincidentally was the subject of a dispute between Arpaio and the Board.

70 To all the people saying "Maybe he is doing questionable things, but he's on our side and is the best we can do", doesn't that go directly against the Tea Party movement?  If he's not doing things honestly, run him out of town and replace him with someone that will do things the right way.  Conservatives are screwed if we can't hold EVERYONE in politics to the same standards.

71 STFU Whiner, please. 

Yep, Gabriel couldn't possibly know what he's talking about because he might be one of them thar Meskins.  And I couldn't have a clue because I'm a native Phoenician, (a white girl, too....gasp!), worked in state and local government in Phoenix for ten years, and still have friends and family who do to this day.

Why doncha just chill out over a beer and stop acting like you know everything there is to know about Maricopa County because you just moved to Queen Creek at the height of the real estate bubble, ok?

72

"Sun City/Seizure World"  LOL!  I used to work construction there in the summers when I was in college.  They decided to save money and bought their little local police force 4 cylinder chevy vegas to do their policing in. (that'll tell you the decade)  When I saw one waiting by the side of the road (we'd head to work at about 5 am, before dawn) I took a special joy in cranking up my 302 mustang, blowing by them and daring them to try and do something about it.

Anything with more power than a golf cart scared the pants off them, so they never even tried to follow.  pussies. 

73

I've lived in Arizona (Pima County) for part of each year since 1993. My impression of Arpaio, even before this new development, was that he's a self-promoting phony, not very bright, with a cruel streak that borders on pathological sadism.

An earlier comment compared him to the stereotypical Southern sheriff, times 3 (or more). I think that's about right.

I'd like to think this latest idiocy on Joe's part will finally be the last straw for the voters of Maricopa County. But it probably won't be.

74 Is Gabe a member of La Raza ? Just asking. 
As Allah the pussy would say.. Worst post evah.   heartbreak.

75 Shouldn't all parties have all document pertaining to the case pre trial, thru discovery?

76 Seems like you can argue this from either side of the room. Who is right and wrong is a tossup. Most large counties, oh say 500,000 people or more, are corrupt and will do anything to stay in power so they can do their magic money disappearing act. I do not know of any county/state govt. that is even run halfway legit. Republicans and Democrats are all in on the take.  It does not matter to them who is in power, they grease each other palms. The Judges are all in on the deal also.  It's a mess.  Can it be cleaned up? I don't see anything down the road on any clean type of Government.

77

@ 40

The correctional officer took the paper out of the attourneys briefcase because it was believed that the paper contained a message for thugs outside of jail. Criminals do that alot down here in AZ, have their attourneys use "legal documents" as carriers for messages to their leaders/followers. Just doing as he was trained to do, and they have since released the correctional officer from jail because they found what he did was justified. The ONLY reason the officer got put in jail in the first place is because the judge had a personal vendetta against Joe. It was kind of a "fuck you joe" move at the expense of a correctional officer.  

78
...and this is why we lose at the polls.

79 Sheriff Joe is a sadistic, petty, publicity chasing glory hound.  He is not on our side.  His nickname should be Collateral Damage.  He doesn't do much for our cause already; the closer he gets, the more damage and less good he does.

Our main principle is that no one is above the law.  Joe thinks that he is the law.

80

The correctional officer took the paper out of the attourneys briefcase because it was believed that the paper contained a message for thugs outside of jail.

The only way he could know that is by reading it, and simply reading attorney/client privileged documents is improper.

Criminals do that alot down here in AZ, have their attourneys use "legal documents" as carriers for messages to their leaders/followers. Just doing as he was trained to do,

Then he has been given poor training. 

and they have since released the correctional officer from jail because they found what he did was justified.

No, the court of appeals has stayed his jailing until they rule on the appeal.  They have made it clear that if they uphold the ruling, he goes to real jail, not Sheriff Joe's front office.

The ONLY reason the officer got put in jail in the first place is because the judge had a personal vendetta against Joe. It was kind of a "fuck you joe" move at the expense of a correctional officer.  

No, the reason the officer got put in jail is because he violated one of the most basic rules of criminal court, and when he was offered a get out of jail free card, he thumbed his nose at it.

81 Arpaio is a lawless man who sometimes does good things. His kind absolutely does not belong in public office.

82

"The correctional officer took the paper out of the attourneys briefcase because it was believed that the paper contained a message for thugs outside of jail."

But it didn't, and there was no evidence of that attorney ever having done that. 

"Criminals do that alot down here in AZ, have their attourneys use "legal documents" as carriers for messages to their leaders/followers."

The gestapo said the same thing about those nasty, untrustworthy jews.   Who needs evidence when you've got suspicion?

"Just doing as he was trained to do,"

That's the point, and that's the problem. 

"The ONLY reason the officer got put in jail in the first place is because the judge had a personal vendetta against Joe."

well, that and the fact that having a law enforcement official grab a defense attorney's papers without his knowledge or permission is against the law.  And it's just stupid to do it in front of a camera.

He got let go because the papers were all given back and he was able to convince the judge that even though he took them and copied them, he never at any point actually read them.  Yes, that was his official sworn testimony. 

Sounds like the judge bent over backwards to get him off after treating him to a "teachable moment".  Too bad his boss isn't so teachable. 

 

83 The number of useful idiots crawling out of the woodwork to defend this dumb demagogue pretty much proves my theory about all the late-LGF dregs invading this blogspace.

Y'all love the Huckster too, right?

84

Gabriel, just wondering if you live in AZ?  I have since '93, and have friends and family on several local police forces, as well as friends who are attorneys at a few of the largest and most respected law firms downtown Phoenix.  I admit I've heard some crazy rumors and stories about Sheriff Joe...one incredibly scandalous one just last night from a old cop and grandfather of one of the kids on my son's soccer team, as we sat at their practice.

I took a look at the "first three paragraphs" of the blog you recommended on Arpaio, and found nothing more than the biased stories of the Phoenix New Times writers who have made going after Sherrif Joe a national obsession with the far left.  One example...the blog references the 99% anglo Fountain Hills where he made an arrest that was 75% Mexican.  I'm in F.H. often, visiting my parents.  I imagine he simply stopped at the corner of Saguaro S. of Pallisades, where every morning everyone in F.H. knows you'll find 1 or 2 dozen illegals loitering waiting for landscape or handyman work.  They are loitering illegally, looking to work illegally, and if you are from the Phoenix area you know this and dozens of other spots to go if you want cheap (and illegal) labor.  To say he went to F.H. and arrested 75% Mexican illegals in the raid is like saying he went to Van Buren Ave. (the local prostitute strip in Phoenix that every local also knows about) and arrested 75% morally challenged young women in a prostitution sting.  You need to balance out your perception a bit, I think.

A lot of what you say is true.  Sheriff Joe is not just the tough, home town sheriff portrayed nationally...he is very political and very much a populist.  I would never vote for him as governor.  But he works hard as a county Sheriff, and every few years, those of us who are informed on the good and the bad of Sheriff Joe seem to overwhelmingly continue to vote him back into his office.  I'm not a big fan of his, but I respect the vote of the people of the county far more than the liberals at the New Times or bloggers from wherever.

85

I wonder how many people would hate Arpaio if he were arresting illegal Canadian immigrants or illegal Swedish immigrants or illegal Polish imigrants?

I wonder how much of the hatred directed at him is simply because he's arresting members of a 'protected' (and largely democrat) group?

 

What part of the word'illegal' has you people confused?  Seriously?

 

I live in an area that is populated by a LOT of Hispanics.  Many of whom are probably illegal.  I can tell you, they are mostly very nice people.  And they are some of the hardest working people I've ever seen.  Most of them are also good family people, good, honest Church-going people and decent all around.

 

Here's the rub.  Times are tough right now and many of those 'illegals' can't get Governemnt support (unemployment, welfare, etc).  And being hard-working people, they'll work for next to nothing.  No Workers Comp.  No Insurance, no overhead.

 

This makes it hard for people who MUST pay for these extra items to compete.  In fact, it's goddam near impossible for them to compete.

 

Why should people who are here illegally, whether it's Canadians, Europeans or Martians?  Why should people who are illegally putting American Citizens out of work be protected by dims? Other than the fact that dims are scumbags, there are pragmatic reasons for all this.

 

Simple two-part answer:

 

1.  The dims will do anyhting for a vote.  Being poor and uneducated?  Which way do you think they'll vote?

 

2.  Shadow racism.  How many times have we heard that dims want to change this country?  How many?  How long will it be before you understand what they really mean by that?  I'm not saying it, the dims are.  They've come right and declared it as their goal.

86 whoever sicked virus on me will have to try harder than that...

87

And while youÂ’re at it, put a leash on your butt-buddy Arpaio.

While you're at it Gabe, why don't you unleash a diatribe against his effective counter-illegal alien measures?

Jesusfuckingchrist, you're starting to sound like Chuckie Johnsun, who reares his ugly head as soon as he gets wiind of posts like this.  (post #20)

Thanks for handing chuckie a gallon of gasoline. He'll probably dedicate a whole thread to this on his insane asylum LGF site.

Arpaio has to deal with thousands of illegals traipsing into Arizona every fucking day, not to mention that the border leaks like a sieve and Napolitano thinks Iraq war vets (like me) are more of a threat.

I don't give a fuck about a RICO pissing contest. If it's that contrived and petty, it'll get thrown out, so you can rest your case, counselor.

To think these two could end up Governor and Attorney General of a state in this country (and not, say, some third-world shit-hole where their jackbooted thuggery would be less remarkable) depresses the hell out of me.

Well, illegal aliens probably feel the same way.

Oh, look who else crawled out from under his rock.

palin steele came in just to throw a turd in the punchbowl.

Since Gabe is Hispanic, it's no wonder he doesn't like Sheriff Arpaio

Posted by: palin steele at December 11, 2009 11:34 AM (E0EDC)

Fucking wonderful.

88

I took a look at the "first three paragraphs" of the blog you recommended on Arpaio, and found nothing more than the biased stories of the Phoenix New Times writers who have made going after Sherrif Joe a national obsession with the far left. 

Ahh, the Phoenix New Times.  Complete hard-on for Arpaio's shenanigans, yet went out of their way to protect the identity of the ELF douchebags that were burning down the mansions on the outskirts of the Phoenix metro area at the turn of the decade.

89 Way too long for me to read on a Friday.

90 It does kinda seem like you could substitute any republican name in there instead of Joe and you'd have the same stuff the left always spews. Usually what ever they claim about the republican is true about themselves.

91 Kee-ryst! Thats the "short" version? Maybe I could make more sense of the long version.

92

I have seen corruption in my county.  It takes years to root out. First rumors and vague allegations begin to pop up.  Then an underling gets sat on and names start to drop.  By the time it gets to the top the crooks are ready to die of old age. 

The explaination of the lawsuit in Maricopa was vague and convoluted but it concluded with a 6 sentence half hearted maybe I'm wrong.  "There could very well be some criminal activity going on here." I think I will wait to see how it works out rather than deciding this far out on the strength of on bloggers opinion.

93 I cannot learn anything useful from such a post, written by someone with a personal axe to grind against Joe, and Thomas.  You then link to known enemies and blogs (most of this is the illegal immigration lobby people) for supporting viewpoint?  

The county government here is corrupt, nobody knows exactly how corrupt as the judges scratch the back of the supervisors and the favors are returned, and they all hate Joe and Thomas from Mayor Gordon down to the worthless newspaper here in the valley, and frankly this post sounded just like one of the raving liberal writers employed by the Arizona Republic.  Replete with immigration and racist baiting tactics.  Wow what a surprise that Joe finds illegal aliens in his sweeps of white neighborhoods and they GASP! happen to be Mexicans just a hundred miles from the sieve, er border...who would of thought?

Does Joe grandstand?  I suppose since most of the media cast him as a bigot and single minded idiot, nice job Gabriel.   His personal popularity is the only thing that keeps him going against multiple investigations by the Feds since Obama became President, and the attempt to force him to NOT enforce immigration laws is out in the open and not convoluted at all, whereas your post leaves me completely uninformed with your pre-judged and Arizona Republic over the top impression that Joe and Thomas are (butt-buddies?) and crazed paranoiacs?  What the hell is YOUR agenda? 

94

Holy chit! What has happened to this site? Is it Charles Johnson and his cronies?

I could care less about the petty bureaucratic clamoring in Phoenix, but I have been observing, from a distance, that the only law enforcement agency actually enforcing immigration laws, on a consistent basis, is the Sheriff of Maricopa County. Illegal aliens are a drag on the economy of this country, at every functioning level of local and federal government administration, not to mention our health care system and schools, insurance rates, etc.

Sheriif Joe is doing something right or else all the lefty name callers wouldn't be slurring him in the manner demonstrated, for whatever he did, whenever.

Keep it up Joe!

95 Sheriff Arpaio is enforcing the law that should properly be enforced by the federal government, but the feds have abrogated that responsibility.  They do not have the guts to change our immigration laws, so they just ignore them.  This has a costly effect and makes a mockery out of every law they have on the books or pass in the future.  For example, when a given number of people just ignore the immigration laws of this country, our government just throws it into the "too tough" box and ignores it.  So, this action encourages more people to violate the same laws.  So, why should Americans have any respect for the tax laws?  If enough people cheat on their taxes, will the government just throw their hands up and stand aside?  (Note, the current administration seems to have some exceptional attraction to tax cheats.)  Why would anyone comply with any law if there are no consequences?  Why not just ignore the ones you don't agree with?  This is insane. 
Enforce the law or change the law. 
Do not merely ignore the law.

96 I also notice that the same people keep posting anti-Sheriff Joe comments on this post. Some very over the top stuff, that he is a sadistic bigot?  Really?  He was thrown out of policing one of the communities here in the Valley that could not afford their own police department, did the Phoenix police department step in to help?  Could Mayor Gordon break from a photo op to help the poor and mostly Hispanic residents of Guadalupe?  Nope.  And Sheriff Joe was thrown out because all the "fair-minded," liberals here were spouting the same exact nonsense as commentators here, along with the never ending media campaign to tell us Joe is harvesting kidneys from illegals to sell to rich white people in Scottsdale.  

But the city of Guadalupe invited Joe and his storm trooper deputies back to police their little town because seems they were being preyed upon by all the illegals that can hide themselves in plain sight and the damn liberals could care less, just some little brown people you know. 

Good enough to use as a club against a Sheriff that is enforcing the law, but not good enough to actually give a damn about predatory criminal activity that Chief Harris and Mayor Gordon are too busy comparing Joe to Bull Conner than to actually police this lawless damn city with its illegal drop houses, gangs, drugs, pollution and crime, damn I am sick of all you agenda driven liberal lying shits.

97 And yes Gabriel shows the same Pharisaic mindset that was always an undercurrent at LGF.  The strain at a gnat to swallow camels suicide pact with the law, where defense attorneys are more like demi-gods, and have rights that are enshrined in Holy Marble, while the victims of crime are nothing but stage furniture for you damn lawyers to move about to express your drama.   Along comes a man that actually tries to enforce the law that the Feds are NOT enforcing and Hell seems to have no fury like a fucking lawyer scorned.

Talk about the murdered little Mexicans and the women raped in these drop houses packed with coyoted illegals that have no rights an NO protection, certainly not from you purity king lawyers, just some cracker sheriff that finds those houses and frees the slaves and raped women. 

98

Uh #43 Oregon Muse

What's the publicity stunt you're referring to?  You mean that he goes out and has people enforce the laws?  Sounds like a job description not some kind of stunt.

Well how about having your likeness decapitated and smacked around like a pinata?  - Such as was done by some action "groups" here;  that's one of the "real" publicity stunts I know of and you may be able to yet find it on YouTube.

99 put a leash on your butt-buddy Arpaio

I thought we weren't supposed to use gay sex stuff as a slur anymore, unless it's funny.--Posted by: HeatherRadish

No laughing here. Speaking as a native Arizonan, Gabe's slur is offensive.

AZ unemployment figures these days are rough. It's obvious that nonpartisan Arizona diplomacy died of exposure along with crashing property values. And those property values were ramped out of control by developers and politicians, hand in hand, with absolutely no care regarding the required water to support the increased population. The EPA shut down the mining industry long ago, requiring more investment than the mines produced in profit; the EPA also blocks the natural resource industry of logging; and the EPA determined solar power collectors harmful to the environment in the AZ desert. The only investment available in AZ, then, is in land speculation.

The story Gabe "covered" centers around the developer Stapley. I'm not going to speculate regarding who this Stapley is. Suffice it to say, Stapley is a name shared by generations of Arizonans descended from one of Mesa's original families in Maricopa County. And Arizona developers played the savings and loans and the mortgage investment firm scandals to the hilt. Ask McCain.

Gabe did the smartass ridicule of Arpaio because the Sheriff, not a lawyer, presumed to write his own legal documents, full of expressive frustrations and lacking in concise finesse. Why not play a Good Samaritan and draft an edited brief version of the RICO suit for Arpaio's use, Gabe? No need to defend Arpaio's faults while lending him a balanced hand since he seems to be going over the edge given to his own self defense mechanisms. You can't make anything right with a drive by shooting.

Some people are just discovering Arpaio to be a mixed bag, though that's a matter of common knowledge in AZ. His critics include the Goldwater Foundation, and The Arizona Republic that's owned and run by liberals now. 

Look at AZ now, suffering after Gov.Napolitano, an absolute Marxist hack representing organized crime. She signed legislation passed by liberal immigrants buying the Sunbelt to get elected into state office to represent illegal aliens and crime syndicates. Establish the evidence that Napolitano's AZ allies are constantly obstructing Arpaio's professional efforts to enforce the law, so the only way remaining is increasingly confrontational since Arpaio would rather ramp it up than give up. After so many years of vicious day-in day-out dog fighting, the extent of metaphorical bloodshed smears any delineation between all parties involved, including the high fallutin' snearing attorney clique bloviating from the peanut gallery.

100 The older people I know, even the life-long Democrats who hate Republicans, all think Obama is out to get them and that congress is trying to cut off their goodies.

101

Yeah, I wonder how that lawsuit against Arpaio's half-assed SWAT team went for burning down the wrong house a couple years ago went.

I think he's a publicity-seeking clown, but I don't live within 2000 miles of there and don't much care, either.

102 @84 - The gestapo said the same thing about those nasty, untrustworthy jews.   Who needs evidence when you've got suspicion?

I hereby invoke Godwin's Law.

103

That "butt buddy" Joe Arpaio is the only thing standing between us and an even bigger flood of illegal aliens coming across our southern border.

He deserves a fucking medal, not derision.

104

That "butt buddy" Joe Arpaio is the only thing standing between us and an even bigger flood of illegal aliens coming across our southern border.

He deserves a fucking medal, not derision.

If the accusations are true, he needs to follow the law.  Why should he be allowed to break it?  Because he does one thing well?  Isn't it a conservative value to be a law-abiding citizen?

105

02 Sonoran - Gabe's piece is rough on Joe, but he's got some ammo. 

Even if Sheriff Joe has a legitimate beef with the Board, when you fnd yourself filing a RICO action against your own bosses it's a sign you should have taken a left turn at Albequerque.  "My way or the highway" makes for good sound bites, but doesn't often make you a good partner in representative government.

In Thomas' case, the red flag was when his own clients (the Board) took away his authority to represent them.  It's not good when you find yourself essentially suing your own clients to force them to use your services.  The fact that the situation even reached that point is a big Fail from an attorney-client and legal ethics standpoint.  Even if the official "clients" are dishonest dicks, the dicks are entitled to counsel of their choice in whom they have trust and confidence - like any other client.  Thomas had to know that his conduct would unavoidably destroy his professional relationship with his clients (the Board) yet he's still demanding the right to represent them ?  Now he's litigating against them ?  Make sure you're not using confidential info they communicated to you as counsel, Thomas.  Good luck on that.

999 out of 1000 County Counsel would have simply announced "unspecified issues with the County leadership" and resigned rather than declaring public-relations jihad and running to the courthouse.

PS - For those of us in San Diego - See any parallels to Aguirre ?

Sadly, my impression of Sheriff Joe has changed somewhat as all this drama has played out.  He's now in my "questionable person with good ideas" category - I agree with (most of) his policies but question his own behavior and judgment.

Joe's either defending a sketch friend who's leading him to perdition or he's just as pathologically focused on local infighting as Thomas and can't make himself stop despite knowing that this act is wrecking his rep.

Either way, while I'm still thumbs-up on the spirit, if not the letter, of his "that's why they call it jail' approach to detention and admire him for speaking truth to power on immigration, I'm getting close to thumbs-down on him as a person. 

He's been verging on "cult of personality" status for awhile now, and I fear he's succumbed to the siren song of his own press-clippings.

Sometimes a good policy ends up with bad spokespersons - e.g. Huckabee and the flat tax.  Hopefully tough-love detention and "support my local community over Washington" immigration enforcement don't suffer while one of their poster children tilts at parochial windmills in Miracopa-tucky.

106
Fuck you Gabe, you faggot. And shame on you for whipping out disgusting homophobic slurs in contravention to Ace's new rules- which are kind and just.

Que viva Sheriff Joe!

107

For those whose take is a variation on " FU Gabe you just hate Sheriff Joe" - please check out 5, 8, 26, 30, 40 etc... 

The fact that we've got reservations about Arpaio doesn't mean we're a bunch of open borders lefties, FFS.  Try "we think stopping illegal immigration is more important than Sheriff Joe, and his actions are likely hurting the cause." 

Sometimes we need to step back and examine who we call heroes and distinguish the policies they support from their own personalities and behavior.  

"He's my guy right or wrong - attaboy Joe !" is for lefties.  Simply assuming that he's in the right and that all of his opponents are lying skeezers is another flavor of fan-boy-dom as well.  A little early realism, cynicism, and skepticism goes a long way to avoiding the disappointments of adolescent hero-worship.  Ask George Stephanopolous.

If Sheriff Joe's sideways on this, he sets the cause back by association.   If not, then Gabe's wrong and he rushed to judgment - which still doesn't make him an LGF mole or something. 

Sheesh.

 

 

 

108
Finally Arpaio will face justice. Many of us true conservatives in southern AZ have been trying to put the word out that "Sheriff Joe" just wasn't what he seemed.

Also, are you morons aware that Arpaio is allied with various European far right Blood and Soil type of neo-fascist flat-earth deniers.

Thank you so much for putting this out there Gabe.

109

I don't like the show boat side of Arapio, but he enforces the law (a job other Americans refuse to do).

 

FYI -- Stapley was indicted by a grand jury.

110 Welcome to little green ace of spades.  You got to be fucking kidding me, right?

111 Mr. Malor apparently isn't familiar with county politics. The county I was raised in was rocked a few years ago by  "coon dog gate". It's a story of long term corruption that was finally brought to light by a federal investigation.

112 #111

Also, are you morons aware that Arpaio is allied with various European far right Blood and Soil type of neo-fascist flat-earth deniers.


No make us aware with some actual links to reputable reporting organizations, lets see if they are hooked up with La Raza or some other Mexican blood and soil neo-fascists, "let us take back what is rightfully ours, since we did such a good job with Mexico, let us establish that culture in the American Southwest."

Funny how somebody that actually stands for something in this country nowadays is nothing but a target.  I figure Joe being a human has many faults, but you have to live here in Arizona to hear and see the absolute hatred and reportage about Joe.  There may be something to the idea that you can somewhat judge a man by his enemies.  I don't have to agree with Joe on all things but the over the top hatred for this man from certain quarters reminds me of how much people hate, just absolutely hate, Sarah Palin. 

This is beyond political disagreements and goes to an argument I will make all day long.  Stuff like this is driven by spiritual beings fighting it out through human beings.  On one side is the Stalins and Hitlers, definitely something possesses such people to destroy the human race, on the other side is usually believers or men or women of principle.  Who in their own way are moved by God to preserve life and the human race, that does not mean such people are Saints, and many times are not aware of the hand of God with them or moving them, just as many evil men are not aware that Satan is using them for HIS purposes.  Go ask Judas for his take on such matters, he was also a political nut and thought to force that lame ole Jesus to kick the Roman's asses and stop all this personal healing and forgiving crap, I mean if you have such power use it correctly (at least do it for the children dude!). 

Always God is about the individual while all tyrants (and our present day liberals) are all about government, setting up the "right," government and administering compassion though an organization...because you see they do not have any real compassion they care nothing for the individual.  They can whine about the plight of the Mexicans, but do nothing to establish a righteous immigration policy that is humane and helps INDIVIDUALS, instead they seek to have a voting block.  And businesses on the other side want cheap labor, indeed to survive they need cheap labor since their competitors can get it via China or India or Vietnam.  Bunch of heartless bastards, all of them!  

A hundred ACLU lawyers are not worth one of Joe's deputies that rescue some 15 year old Mexican girl that is being held in a drop house, repeatedly raped with a future of endless slavery. 

And one hundred Harvard professors, or antiwar protestors or liberal douche bags sucking Michael Moore's rhetorical cock are not worth even one badass Marine weeping with a broken heart as he rescues a little girl or boy from Saddam's prisons.  I hate all of these that make this some game or philosophical debate, these are real people out there without hope, lost to a goddamn hideous religion they were born into, it is NOT their fault, you are an American by grace or chance, or you fought to get here, or left all to get here, like my own wife! 

We better start standing up for what is right and good and back men that show one glimmer of guts and willingness to fight this darkness. 

If you think this is B.S. then think about this; just like men like Joe are hated with a weird out of left field hatred way beyond any proportion of what they are supposedly doing, so are only two nations universally hated on this earth, and that is America and Israel, strangely the only two nations on earth that claim a relationship with God, one that brought us Christ as an individual, and one that has been a place of refuge for the working out of the nature of that individual into millions.  

90% of all the missionary effort and support to all the world has come from America for at least the last hundred years.  Yet secular humanism and the Left and whatever evil whore of a system/religion/philosphy the Left is currently sleeping with always targets one thing, any expression of Christianity in the greater culture or marketplace.   If you do not see this ages long battle you are willingly blind, for to see this you will then know this cannot be organized by man, it maintains a consistency over time in its obsessive hatred for the spiritual truth first communicated by Judaism, and then that same spiritual truth embodied in the person of Jesus, the model to which we will all conform, or die trying.

113 Every county in this country would be lucky to have a Sherriff like Joe.

114  Like 'em or hate 'em - Joe is the smartest polititian in the state. For the last 20 years, virtually every city/county/state/fed agency has tried to take him down - and failed. Millions of dollars and lots of high-priced lawyers from two countries - FAIL. The question is - why have all these super-smart and ethically-superior North American citizens been powerless to stop him?
 The abuse 'suits get settled, the La Raza types get headlines (and nothing else), the Feds slink away with their tails between their legs. Why?
  A disproportionate amount of Hispanics are picked up you say? According to the laws of this state illegal immigrants are, well, illegal - therefore a disproportionate amount of Hispanics are breaking the law.

  'Cause they've got nothing. Joe ALWAYS has the letter of the law to back him up. His usual response to detractors is 'If you want me to change what I'm doing - change the laws I am enforcing.' That is why they fail.
  As far as this latest drama is concerned - He wouldn't be rolling hot on this if he wasn't pretty sure he was going to come out on top. Add to that this isn't his normal type of investigation - they most likely came at him first. Not too smart, even if they are right.
   Governor? That could be his first fail. Tucson and Northern AZ hate him more than Phoenix loves him.

115 Finally Arpaio will face justice. Many of us true conservatives in southern AZ have been trying to put the word out that "Sheriff Joe" just wasn't what he seemed. Also, are you morons aware that Arpaio is allied with various European far right Blood and Soil type of neo-fascist flat-earth deniers. --Posted by: just a random guy from Az. who is concerned confused

"Finally"--Arpaio faces justice daily as Hispanic supremicists whine away. LOL, listen to the random fraud who has to preface his identity as a "true conservative"--the "true" tell-tale sign of an extremist of some sort, belonging to the only "true" group of this or that. So La Raza, a southern AZ random guy "trying to put the word out" on the sheriff of a central AZ county without at least referencing the status of his own county and performance of his own sheriff. This randomly confused guy doesn't even know that he's a denying leftist neo-fascist flat-earther himself, stuck on stupid fraud. You claim to be from southern AZ, yet misappropriate the "Blood and Soil" typecast as evil, ignoring that La Raza's so-called basis is as a LEFTIST blood and soil Marxist movement.