December 01, 2009
— Dave in Texas Found in a stolen car by a lone officer, ordered to stop and refused. Shot and killed by a lone officer.
Assistant Police Chief Jim Pugel says 37-year-old Maurice Clemmons was killed about 2:45 a.m. Tuesday. Pugel says the officer found the car, which had been recently stolen, recognized Clemmons and ordered him to show his hands and stop. Pugel says Clemmons wouldn't stop, and the officer fired several rounds.
New link, more info: Police detaining several they believe helped him and/or tried to mislead them about his wherebouts.
And there's this too:
Pulaski County Prosecutor Larry Jegley, whose office opposed Clemmons' parole in 2000 and 2004, said Huckabee's comments were "red herrings.""My word to Mr. Huckabee is man up and own what you did," Jegley said.
I believe he has some doubts regarding Huckabee's expressed concerns over the "broken justice system".
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Posted by: Dante at December 01, 2009 04:42 AM (971Po)
Posted by: negentropy at December 01, 2009 04:42 AM (27KAF)
Posted by: Methos at December 01, 2009 04:43 AM (zyyJm)
Posted by: thebronze at December 01, 2009 04:45 AM (86F8f)
Posted by: Shannon at December 01, 2009 04:46 AM (niZOC)
"A couple dozen police officers milled around at the scene, shaking hands and patting each other on the back later Tuesday morning."
Hee hee.
Posted by: CanaDave at December 01, 2009 04:47 AM (hS0i0)
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2009 04:48 AM (u1Awp)
Posted by: mokimoki at December 01, 2009 04:48 AM (IrV7s)
Posted by: Chuck at December 01, 2009 04:49 AM (yz7h+)
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2009 04:50 AM (u1Awp)
Hmm, yeah, I am sure that is what the police report says all right.
Sometimes bad things happen to bad people.
Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2009 04:51 AM (BiphJ)
Posted by: CanaDave at December 01, 2009 04:52 AM (hS0i0)
Posted by: obama is a traitor at December 01, 2009 04:52 AM (Qt4Y7)
I will offer him a posthumous pardon
Posted by: Mike Huckabee at December 01, 2009 04:56 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Rocks at December 01, 2009 04:57 AM (B0vt9)
Posted by: Rocks at December 01, 2009 04:58 AM (B0vt9)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 01, 2009 05:01 AM (aVzyR)
Posted by: Mike Huckabee at December 01, 2009 08:56 AM
THREADWINNAH!!!!!
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:02 AM (sUYFh)
I'm up for a moron salute at this assholes' funeral. Line the route with signs like.
."Murderous Spawn of a Whore is dead..WoooWhoo".
Too much?
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:05 AM (sUYFh)
"My word to Mr. Huckabee is man up and own what you did," Jegley said.
Must have been the magic words because AOL is now reporting on Huckabee's pardon. I don't know who else is as I just got up.
Posted by: katya at December 01, 2009 05:05 AM (QVNzU)
Posted by: Shannon at December 01, 2009 05:06 AM (niZOC)
Posted by: katya at December 01, 2009 09:05 AM (QVNzU)
Every search engine last night had a link to that. Every leftist site was gloating about ie..DU, KOS, etc...
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:07 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: shanha at December 01, 2009 05:09 AM (fhipx)
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:09 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:12 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: Methos at December 01, 2009 08:43 AM (zyyJm)
Yes and to hell with the simpleton pricks that helped this worm-food get away so he could destroy other lives.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 01, 2009 05:12 AM (2Uu3I)
I thank him. I live in the Metro area and feel safer now that I'm not looking over my shoulder wondering if the cop killer is hiding in the bushes somewhere.
To those who aided him, they should spend MANY MANY years in prison considering their actions.
If the Justice Twins (great nickname) show up - there should be a tar and feathers party.
Posted by: anne at December 01, 2009 05:12 AM (uJBct)
"Police! Stop or I'll Shoot"
means
"If you don't stop, you will be shot."
How ......... literalist and devoid of nuance.
I think the media are to blame for this turn of events.
Maurice Clemmons no doubt watched years of television in which the police officers on screen would say "Stop or I'll shoot" or some variation thereof, the suspect would run, and the officer would holster his or her weapon, sigh, and then race after the suspect. I hope Mr. Clemmons's family files a multi-bazillion dollar lawsuit against Big Media and wins. for the children.
I also hope the lone officer gets a quick recert and is back on the street. I hope the families of the slain officers can find some peace and support from their community.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 01, 2009 05:15 AM (ruzrP)
Posted by: EC at December 01, 2009 05:16 AM (mAhn3)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 01, 2009 05:19 AM (nxUYP)
Where exactly is the line with these pricks?
If it takes 3 Sherpas to bring in his criminal records, maybe he should stay in jail.
Any word on the bail-bond guy? He won't be able to appear in court for punching the Sherriffs guy in the face now.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:19 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: ford at December 01, 2009 05:21 AM (Ki7fm)
Six arrested for assisting him!
He also had one of the cops guns on him. Well, he did when they searched him, that's our story and we're sticking to it.
Interesting that the NY Times is running this story full bore and Drudge doesn't know it exists.
Times is heavy on the Arkansas angle, gee wonder why?
Posted by: Kemp at December 01, 2009 05:22 AM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: EC at December 01, 2009 09:16 AM (mAhn3)"
And every judge and attorney that helped this guy get bail FIVE times on felony charges. And the bailbondsmen?? do they ever say no?
Huckabee is a shithead for blaming the parole board on this. What a frikken creep he turned out to be, eh? Didn't even have the brains to keep his mouth shut until Clemmons was caught....media whore.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at December 01, 2009 05:23 AM (QC8ti)
Posted by: Shannon at December 01, 2009 05:23 AM (niZOC)
Actually, I don't blame them for running the angle, as long as they cover the rest of the fuckups. And there were many.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 01, 2009 05:24 AM (nxUYP)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at December 01, 2009 05:26 AM (QC8ti)
Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2009 05:28 AM (NfURg)
He was released from custody just six days ago, even though he was wanted on a fugitive warrant out of Arkansas and was staring at eight felony charges in all out of Washington state....Seattle Times
How does a guy, wanted on a warrant from 1300 miles away, make bail? I'm joking about the bondsman. I mean the judge. How does this guy have 15k cash for bail? And you know he paid at least 10k for a lawyers retainer.
There is a lot of blame to go around, but why is nobody mentioning the last judge that granted him bail?
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:29 AM (sUYFh)
Not enough.
First they should be taken out in the middle of the road in the community where all this took place. Strapped to a large wooden cross. Have their shirts ripped off their backs. The flogged with a large bull whip.
The they can be sent to prison for decades. It is obvious from the facts in this case and and previous events in this town that the lawless element has seized control from the ass sucking liberals who run the community.
It is time to take back the city people.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 05:31 AM (CDUiN)
#46
Drudge, since Breitbart left, is a shadow of his selfs.
Bretibart's Big Government site is pretty damn good.
Posted by: Kemp at December 01, 2009 05:32 AM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2009 09:28 AM
Second, Motion carried!
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:33 AM (sUYFh)
"We expect to have maybe six or seven people in custody by the day's end," said Ed Troyer, a spokesman for the Pierce County sheriff. "Some are friends, some are acquaintances, some are partners in crime, some are relatives. Now they're all partners in crime."
Any way we can get an all cop jury for these upcoming trials?
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:35 AM (sUYFh)
Huck-a-boo made his mistake on this monster, yet let's not forget the TWO judges in WA state that let him walk. (nuts)
They need to be tared and feathered.
Posted by: Dustoff at December 01, 2009 05:35 AM (G9/8V)
Drudge, since Breitbart left, is a shadow of his self.
Agreed, but you have to admit that he updates the site every few days, and most of the articles aren't double postings.
/
Posted by: Rewrite! at December 01, 2009 05:35 AM (d7Px0)
Posted by: nickless at December 01, 2009 05:37 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Rewrite! at December 01, 2009 05:39 AM (d7Px0)
Given that the guy heard voices and thought he was Jesus, I expect he'll become a poster boy for more/better "free" gov't mental health care. Nevermind that such is available to prison inmates, even in Arkansas.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 01, 2009 05:40 AM (NtiET)
Hopefully the Seattle PD charges everybody involved. Even the guy at the 7-11 who sold hims smokes.
I've gone bail for people. DIU's, possession etc. Helped people move in the middle of the night. But, I won't even hide you out from your old lady.
"I just murdered 4 cops..can I borrow your car and another gun?". WTF
"Sure, I've got that stuff here, just waiting for the day somebody would ask...knew it would come in handy....I call it my deluxe eluding kit".
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:41 AM (sUYFh)
There is a lot of blame to go around, but why is nobody mentioning the last judge that granted him bail?
Can we get a thread about how dirty judges are?
Posted by: katya at December 01, 2009 05:43 AM (QVNzU)
Posted by: jasonj at December 01, 2009 05:44 AM (EspwV)
Any way we can get an all cop jury for these upcoming trials?
Yeah, we'll get that like terrorists get a military trial.
Posted by: katya at December 01, 2009 05:44 AM (QVNzU)
"Given that the guy heard voices and thought he was Jesus.."
That's why barry sotero will stay mum. Anybody, besides him claiming to be Jesus, is fair game for cops to shoot.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:44 AM (sUYFh)
Can we get a thread about how dirty judges are?--katya
3 words.."Clinton apointee". Source: sheriif joe
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:46 AM (sUYFh)
In March 2001, he was accused of violating his parole by committing aggravated robbery and theft, according to a story in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.
He was returned to prison on a parole violation. But in what appears to have been a mistake, Clemmons was not actually served with the arrest warrants until leaving prison three years later. As a result, Clemmons' attorney argued that the charges should be dismissed because too much time had passed. Prosecutors dropped the charges.
Whoever let this happen also has some 'splainin to do.
Posted by: Tinian at December 01, 2009 05:49 AM (7+pP9)
Vic,
How do you really feel?
Can't post that without being banned for excessive cruelty to criminal assholes.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 05:54 AM (CDUiN)
Looks like I was wrong and this was a case of voices in the head only with no Islamic influences.
Wait til his room/house, etc are searched. Never know what they'll find.
Posted by: katya at December 01, 2009 05:58 AM (QVNzU)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 01, 2009 06:02 AM (l1Wlr)
Posted by: kahall at December 01, 2009 06:06 AM (ZCT0i)
Come, come, brothers and sisters we must speak good of the dead:
Brother Clemmons is dead.....GOOD!
Posted by: Earl T at December 01, 2009 06:06 AM (uokdN)
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 06:13 AM (sUYFh)
The Huckabee camp is trying to pass this off as failure of "the system" in both Arkansas and Washington. But my friend Bill Otis, a former prosecutor, observes that the "system" had Clemmons behind bars for the duration until Huckabee let him out.
Long story short, Washington state judges may have hosed up, but the chain of custody lands right back on Huckabee's desk...
Posted by: Ace's #1 Fan at December 01, 2009 06:22 AM (SHKl9)
He will not man up to his disastrous decision. IMHO, he is washed up,as a politician, which is the best punishment we can hope for in these circumstances. Maybe his little folksy radio show will dry up, too, being that there is no substance to it.
A pox on him.
Posted by: Alaska Paul at December 01, 2009 06:25 AM (Rjy8m)
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 01, 2009 06:25 AM (I2aaX)
A news article from yesterday on Fox said that he had a 108 year sentence in Arkansas.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:26 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at December 01, 2009 06:26 AM (3IZGh)
Looks like I was wrong and this was a case of voices in the head only with no Islamic influences.
Wait til his room/house, etc are searched. Never know what they'll find.
Hey, keep hope alive, right? /sarc
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 01, 2009 06:27 AM (Mi2wf)
I don't. Fuck them. Mr. Clemmons' family need to be set on fire, thrown into a deep pit, and then pissed on.
Posted by: Charles Johnson, NOT a Sockpuppet at December 01, 2009 06:29 AM (j88uA)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 01, 2009 06:30 AM (PNTym)
Why does Fox News hate the police?
They don't hate the police. It is more of a case of "they love RINOs". Huck-a-fuck is a prime case of RINO.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:35 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 01, 2009 06:38 AM (PNTym)
Posted by: hobgoblin at December 01, 2009 06:41 AM (uEGS8)
Xoxotl was talking about his CJ sockpuppet. (I always have to look for the hashes when anyone says "off")
Posted by: hobgoblin at December 01, 2009 06:44 AM (uEGS8)
Posted by: Naan at December 01, 2009 06:46 AM (YR3gL)
Posted by: Morgan at December 01, 2009 06:53 AM (lZFLE)
Did the perp have a fat lip? Oh wait. Never mind.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 01, 2009 06:59 AM (RQ+qN)
I'm highly suspicious that a guy who killed 4 cops was even given a chance to surrender.
.hobgoblin at December 01, 2009 10:41 AM
You're fucking kidding, right?
2:45a.m., alone, looking for a mass murderer..and you're really looking for procedural shit?
There will be a full inquiry.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 07:00 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 07:03 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 07:05 AM (sUYFh)
I wasn't talking about you. I was referring to myself. I forgot to turn off my sockpuppet @ post 86.
Posted by: Xoxotl at December 01, 2009 07:05 AM (j88uA)
One, I don't think the Justice Twins (that is a nice term) can do anything with this one -- it's rather reminiscent in some aspects to the murder of that TN couple. Therefore it could potentially be an indictment against the whole of Black society here in the U.S. -- the perps' friends and family are in some ways just as guilty as he is, so what does that lead the average citizen to think? They won't want to touch that. The family/friends involvement will be swept under the rug I think.
Depending upon the political wind, the actions of those WA judges will also be swept under the rug, as will Mr. Clemmons previous bad acts -- the guy was a child rapist as well as cop killer; cop killers get some sympathy from some deluded segments of our society...child rapists usually don't. (unless they are Roman Polanski and perform "somber, not rape-rape").
I don't think the Dems will allow Huckabee's dirty linen to not be aired on this one -- and methinks they have some people to cover in this case anyway, so the sham Huckabee is a godsend to them. That will get aired (and will also be the reason why the Justice Twins will not touch this one).
Posted by: unknown jane at December 01, 2009 07:06 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: StevePoling at December 01, 2009 07:26 AM (hnq5i)
What will I sell at the next drum-circle??
Posted by: Brain-Dead Lefty Ass-Suck at December 01, 2009 07:27 AM (27KAF)
Posted by: moi at December 01, 2009 07:52 AM (rcmoR)
running rn at December 01, 2009 11:45
Dude, I used that term right after this deal wnet down. Like Sunday a.m.
I shoulda trademrked it! Huck-a-was. That's what I called him.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 07:53 AM (sUYFh)
As to the issue, we ALL know that coddling criminals is hardly something the Democrats can complain about.
Congratulations and a job well done to the Seattle officer who brought down this mad dog!
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 01, 2009 07:57 AM (Z+rhq)
Huckabee's misguided notion of mercy, Mr. Maurice Clemmons would be alive today.....amishdude.
Funny thing, that karma.
"Free Clemmons" T-shirts
Can you change them with a marker to "Fuck Clemmons"?
"Free cLemons"?
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 08:00 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: FUBAR at December 01, 2009 08:05 AM (ZvKgM)
Posted by: JEA at December 01, 2009 08:10 AM (H7yeS)
I'm glad that the "lone officer" was able to put 4 or 5 rounds in the center mass of this A#%hole. He's going to be late for his beer summit at the White House--indeed ol' Maurice may never show up for his meet with Holder and Obama. Too damned bad.
Of course down here in Los Angeles some criminal clown--maybe Maurice's cousin, crawled under a house to avoid arrest; they sent a police dog in after him to get him out. He shot and killed the dog. I think they lost count of the number of rounds fired at the guy--but he was hit by about a dozen of them.
It's a bad idea to kill 4 cops. It's also a bad idea to kill one police dog. Life expectancy in either case isn't very long.
Posted by: Happy Fellow at December 01, 2009 08:13 AM (ktYjH)
The 15k was put up by somebody likely in police custody already for aiding this scumbag.
The BFF's that helped this asshole should be charges as accomplices, after the fact.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 08:32 AM (sUYFh)
If the Justice Twins (great nickname) show up - there should be a tar and feathers party.
And then run them all the way to Canada on a rail. Make it a Deportation Party.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 01, 2009 08:33 AM (ujg0T)
Yeah, and WA is suppose to be a 3 strikes Law state. It passed overwhelmingly when it was on the ballot. I can't fathom why he was still out
If the law is anything like CA's three strikes law, I suspect that felonies committed in other states don't count.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 01, 2009 08:35 AM (ujg0T)
That would be the bail bondsman. The front money is non-refundable. And it will not cost the bail bondsman a penny because he got his "court date" and his "sentence" at the same time.
And this time the "sentence" can't be commuted by the Huckster.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 08:51 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: GarandFan at December 01, 2009 09:50 AM (ZQBnQ)
This is yet another empirical data point supporting my long held philosophy on jury duty:
If the case is anywhere near close, always vote Guilty. Let the appeal process sort it out.
Huck's misguided action, and the subsequent failures of prosecutors in AR and judges in WA, demonstrates that there is NO shortage of opportunities for perps to get off down the road. Even (or maybe especially) the really bad ones.
Glad this is the last we'll be hearing any candidacy talk from him.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at December 01, 2009 03:00 PM (koDL3)
Depending on the circumstances as the officer saw them, there is no requirement for an officer to give this guy a chance to surrender.
He executed 4 officers. He was on the run and a known danger to the community.
If the lone officer saw a gun in his hand, and had otherwise IDd him as the bad guy, he was justified in shooting.
On the other hand, if he was not clearly armed, then he would have to make an effort to arrest him.
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