December 04, 2009
— Ace And Danny Tarkanian leads him by 6.
Nevadans aren't warming up to Sen. Harry Reid, despite plenty of early advertising designed to boost his image, a new poll shows.Just 38 percent of respondents said they had a favorable opinion of the Democratic Senate majority leader, the same percentage as in October and 1 point higher than in August.
The survey of 625 registered Nevada voters by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research suggests the promotional bombardment that Reid launched more than six weeks ago has yet to hit its target.
"I'd be worried," said Michael Franz, an assistant professor at Bowdoin College in Brunswick, Maine, who studies political advertising. "I'd stop if I had aired ads for two or three weeks and it wasn't moving the needle."
According to the poll commissioned by the Review-Journal, 49 percent of respondents had an unfavorable opinion of Reid, while 13 percent were neutral.
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In hypothetical general election matchups, respondents favored Lowden over Reid 51 percent to 41 percent, with 8 percent undecided. They favored Tarkanian over Reid 48 percent to 42 percent, with 10 percent undecided. The margin of error was plus or minus 4 percentage points.
I was on a conference call with Lowden (weeks and weeks ago) and she talked a lot about Harry Reid's huge campaign warchest -- the most, by far, any politician had ever accrued in Nevada.
All that money and all those ads and people still don't like this worm. One point. One point they moved the needle.
The other thing she hit him with was a double-whammy. The thing is, he spends an awful lot of money, giving out pork to all of his Democratic buddies. But in terms of bringing home the bacon to Nevada -- I forget the number, but Nevada is way down there on the list of federal money brought into the state, per capita.
I thought that was an interesting way to take him on. People don't like pork... except when it's coming to them. So Lowden's going to hit him -- a lot, if her conference call was any indicator -- as being the worst of both worlds, a tax-and-spend liberal who's mortgaging your future to buy elections for other Democrats, but a feckless weakling who can't seem to convince any of his colleagues to bring some of that sweet free federal money to a state that's hurting badly.
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Posted by: Star Witness at December 04, 2009 01:33 PM (2YS8r)
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Posted by: RobD at December 04, 2009 01:39 PM (sV3Dv)
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Posted by: OregonMuse at December 04, 2009 01:40 PM (6kI9E)
Posted by: TonyRezko at December 04, 2009 01:40 PM (+jw61)
I can't recall if Nevadans wanted it though I know Brother Reid didn't. But the current 13% unemployment in Nevada just might change people's minds.
Posted by: David in San Diego at December 04, 2009 01:41 PM (GF+6V)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 04, 2009 01:43 PM (81QXy)
Depending on the freshness of the road-kill.
Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at December 04, 2009 01:43 PM (ry2ij)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 04, 2009 01:44 PM (plsiE)
Posted by: mojo at December 04, 2009 01:48 PM (g1cNf)
And that would be the second sitting Democratic Senate Majority leader to be ousted?
The thought of that is about as hot to me as watching several Skinemax clips.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at December 04, 2009 01:49 PM (otlXg)
He's getting desperate. His most recent ad describes his courage in fighting against the mob (back in the old days). They even put a bomb in his car (but it was probably because he missed a payoff).
Goodbye, Harry.
Posted by: JayC at December 04, 2009 01:49 PM (8+aAe)
When barry scared the convention business out of Vegas (and to Chicago) Harry barely mumbled a protest. Conventions were bringing in more revenue than gambling. Harry hates Nevada and only Acorn style voting can save him.
Posted by: Flying Monkey at December 04, 2009 01:51 PM (Oxen1)
I was at FOB Warhorse in Iraq when he said that. I look forward to someday peeing on his grave.
Posted by: mcassill at December 04, 2009 01:52 PM (OS2KR)
O/T: Howie Kurtz gives Charles Johnson head, discovers AOSHQ:
"I cannot support a movement that holds that purely religious doctrine should govern civil political decisions and that uses the sacredness of religious faith for the pursuit of worldly power.
[ . . . ] (CJ bullshit)
I'd say he made his point, wouldn't you?
Sullivan was inspired by Charles Johnson, also an early conservative blogger with his site Little Green Footballs. He also announces his political divorce, citing:
"Support for bigotry, hatred, and white supremacism (see: Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, Robert Stacy McCain, Lew Rockwell, etc.)
A right-wing blogosphere that is almost universally dominated by raging hate speech (see: Hot Air, Free Republic, Ace of Spades, etc.)"
Posted by: Tinian at December 04, 2009 01:52 PM (7+pP9)
Former Miss New Jersey. Second runner-up for Miss America. And (from the slideshow on the page) appeared in a USO show with Bob Hope.
Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at December 04, 2009 01:55 PM (ry2ij)
The worst thing Reid ever did was become Majority Leader. The less boat rocking a senator does from a state that is traditionally against his party the better. When he was just a senator he could get away with some of his more liberal positions while as a senator and then go back to the Nevada and campaign a more moderate tone. Most people aren't going to notice. Suddenly he's the guy in the Senate. All the liberal ideas the Senate is passing are firmly on him. He's getting the coverage, and the people back home are taking notice of what he's doing.
Sure he probably got what he's always wanted, power and prestige among his peers. But that power and prestige is really going to be fleeting.
The house got it right when they picked Pelosi. She's liberal and her district is liberal. Nothing they do in the house is likely to get her kicked out via election.
Posted by: buzzion at December 04, 2009 01:57 PM (opdYb)
Milftastic? I've seen some pics, and the one on her campaign website makes her look a little old. NTTAWWT, but maybe past the point of no return on milfiness. She probably looked great back in the day as a news anchor though.
Posted by: John F Not Kerry at December 04, 2009 01:57 PM (HF2US)
Tarkanian.
The UNLV basketball coach? I remember losing money betting against my alma mater in the championship against UNLV. He was supposed to be a thug. Hope he gives it to Dingy Harry.
Posted by: dagny at December 04, 2009 02:00 PM (p+yYc)
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Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 04, 2009 02:04 PM (B5cM9)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at December 04, 2009 02:05 PM (tzcjs)
Although Harry can take solace in the fact that he's played by the smarter Smothers Brother.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2009 02:06 PM (l1Wlr)
"I was at FOB Warhorse in Iraq when he said that. I look forward to someday peeing on his grave."
I look forward to taking a dump on his lawn on the way to Cottonwood Cove..Bastard,,,,the war is lost indeed.
Posted by: Todd at December 04, 2009 02:07 PM (LLOGQ)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at December 04, 2009 02:08 PM (tzcjs)
27 - Tinian
I saw part of that somewhere earlier and I thought it was a joke.
How can Howie call cj a conservative?
Posted by: lan sing at December 04, 2009 02:09 PM (cEOZd)
Sounds yummy.
Posted by: nickless at December 04, 2009 02:09 PM (MMC8r)
When Reid loses he won't leave Washington. Note that Daschle is still deep in the pile, as this excerpt from Politico shows:
On Monday, the former-Senate-majority-leader-turned-corporate-policy-adviser was the only outside participant in a legislative strategy session with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, White House health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle and White House deputy chief of staff Jim Messina.
But Daschle’s dual role as Democratic strategist and “senior policy adviser” at global law firm DLA Piper, which he joined recently, prompted critics to question whether it was appropriate for him to be on the inside.
Posted by: Flying Monkey at December 04, 2009 02:10 PM (Oxen1)
Yeah, but we won't hear his grating, liberal little mealy voice nightly on the news and blogs. Daschel annoyed me in the same way. Where do they find these beta-sounding and looking males to lead their pitiful party?
Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 04, 2009 02:13 PM (B5cM9)
I have no idea.
Posted by: Henry Waxman at December 04, 2009 02:16 PM (9Wv2j)
In Nevada, Eric Holder was called to a brothel run by Obamas friend Van Jones, where a dazed Harry Reid is implicated in the death of a prostitute. Eric offers to take care of the problem in return for "friendship" between Senator Reid and the Obama Family. Harry has been Obamas bitch ever since he murdered the hooker.
Posted by: Fish at December 04, 2009 02:17 PM (6mfq0)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2009 02:18 PM (l1Wlr)
Yucca Mountain is a looser here in Nevada because it is so near Las Vegas and that is where the largest voting block is. Personally, living in Reno, I'm pro Yucca. I think if the Feds had proposed a Alaska type direct payment to the people type of thing it might be different but any money we would have gotten would have just been spent by the politicians as usual.
Yucca Mountain is federal law. Regardless of what Obama and Harry Reid say there is not one damn thing they can do about using Yucca Mountain unless they get congress to vote again on the project and reject the site which they already accepted. The fact that they promised to get rid of it was a HUGE lie. No congressman or senator from any other state is going to vote to move Yucca because they don't want to be responsible for nuclear waste in their state. The waste is safe for a minimum of 1,000,000 years in Yucca and anything said to the contrary is hysteria.
Another Obama/Reid lie.
Posted by: dagny at December 04, 2009 02:19 PM (p+yYc)
Conservative/Republican - Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Sue Lowden, Dana Perino, Michelle Malkin VS.
Liberal/Democrat - Maxine Waters, Helen Thomas, Medea Benjamin, Nancy Pelosi, Cynthia McKinnon
Any pattern here?
Posted by: 4thGenerationBuck at December 04, 2009 02:20 PM (AtjNL)
Posted by: dagny at December 04, 2009 02:21 PM (p+yYc)
I'm curious to see if the cratering Las Vegas real estate market as well as the high unemployment mentioned earlier ends up having any effect on the election. If a bunch of people migrate out of Nevada, particularly Clark County, as a result of this recession then that could have real implications in the final election results since Clark tends to lean Dem.
Most of the "purplishness" that has appeared in the Mountain West the last 20 years or so has been due to California and the Northeast exporting its surplus liberals to other states, so I wonder if a reversal could occur in this case.
Posted by: David Axelrod's Combover at December 04, 2009 02:26 PM (/Pw+r)
I'm with you. Plus, from the looks of her choppers, she is clearly not British. NTTAWWT
Posted by: pep at December 04, 2009 02:27 PM (DZyVK)
Posted by: Z Ryan at December 04, 2009 02:28 PM (cMo6P)
"I think that was the first time I've been first"
Soounds like something you read on the wall at a glory hole....damn italics
Posted by: Todd at December 04, 2009 02:29 PM (LLOGQ)
Gaia knows I'm sick of those Democrat fishwives hogging the TV.
Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2009 02:33 PM (I3Udb)
I do know for sure that Clark County - Lost Wages in particular - kept him in that seat. The rest of Nevada did not have the votes to swing the vote the other way. This time it will be lot different, unless California gets involved in that election.
So to the good people of Nevada, this is your chance to make history. You all can do the same thing that South Dakota did to Puff Dashcle. Send him down the road kicking cans and muttering to himself. Also the Attorney General should launch a few inquiries into Dingy Harry's Clark County land deals. I'll bet that he could land sitting in Carson City in striped pajamas. Oh how ironic that would be.
Posted by: Stan25 at December 04, 2009 02:35 PM (N1Gru)
Yucca Mountain has been dead since the liberals court shopped that decision that said the government had to prove safety for 1,000,000 years.
Humans have not existed for that long, much less Yucca mountain.
No utility that I am familiar with is counting on Yucca Mountain.
Posted by: Vic at December 04, 2009 02:37 PM (CDUiN)
Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 04, 2009 02:45 PM (B5cM9)
Posted by: ADK46er at December 04, 2009 02:47 PM (Q8mbA)
Posted by: Scrapiron at December 04, 2009 02:48 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: Sparky at December 04, 2009 02:48 PM (mXY2a)
To briefly interrupt the ongoing intellectual debate, I posted something along these lines at Hot Air earlier today.
"The thing is, he spends an awful lot of money, giving out pork to all of his Democratic buddies. But in terms of bringing home the bacon to Nevada -- I forget the number, but Nevada is way down there on the list of federal money brought into the state, per capita."
It looks like Reid, Pelosi and friends are doing a kamikaze with the US Budget and their own political careers. Why?
It looks to me like someone (Gore for one, maybe several Chicago players) is gaming the system (i.e., the US Budget/Economy/...), expecting to get things set up for a large payoff that lasts until ... ... ... someone wakes up and ends it.
I expect this to happen in 2010, because the gamers over-reached, and cannot guarantee that they get any payoff.
If things are happening as I suspect, did Reid have the sense to position his investments, sort of like Al Gore? Is there a way to check?
I suspect (but do not assume) that Reid knows that he's finished and not even ACORN and the SEIU can save his political career (assuming that they would).
Alternatively, is Reid really the patsy that he looks (both politically and in real life) to be?
Milf. It does a body good.
Now, back to your previously-scheduled snack.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 04, 2009 02:51 PM (Ym9lj)
Posted by: Barbarian at December 04, 2009 02:54 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 04, 2009 06:45 PM (B5cM9)
--Fuck it, just make shit up!
Posted by: CRU at December 04, 2009 02:56 PM (I3Udb)
Posted by: Scrapiron at December 04, 2009 06:48 PM (1kwr2)
--We're ready to vote for Reid next year!
Posted by: Dallas Cowboys at December 04, 2009 02:57 PM (I3Udb)
Milftastic!
idea:
We get a few more leftist hotties.
We get a kiddie pool with Vlu-Rite and Jell-O to fill it.
Some Moronettes and maybe (MK Hamm and SE Cupp).
...and we let the ladies settle it for all of us.
Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2009 02:59 PM (IwvIG)
Posted by: mrkwong at December 04, 2009 03:00 PM (G8Eo0)
Posted by: Dallas Cowboys at December 04, 2009 03:00 PM (I3Udb)
Here is a new election tactic that can be put into effect by the grass roots:
There are lots of incumbents to get out of office in 2010. They have lots of money (which they raise themselves AND get from their party machines.)
The tactic is to get them to spend themselves dry. How? By getting serious challengers to pop up and run for office *everywhere*. Party machine money will get thin very quickly (especially to fight big threats), leaving those depending on it in a bad way.
Multiply this effect from local to district to state to national levels, and suddenly the pols running for office (and especially the machines that back them) will face a campaign cash deficit they never dreamed of.
Break the system by swamping it.
Posted by: w'evver at December 04, 2009 03:04 PM (GkYyh)
Tinian
I saw part of that somewhere earlier and I thought it was a joke.
How can Howie call cj a conservative?
Posted by: lan sing at December 04, 2009 06:09 PM (cEOZd)
If Howie can use anything to smear conservatism he'll do it. Validity doesn't matter.Posted by: Tinian at December 04, 2009 03:04 PM (7+pP9)
78 Holy crap, what happened in Russia? It sounds like Great White II.
In Russia, pyrotechniques blow up you!
Posted by: yakov at December 04, 2009 03:07 PM (IwvIG)
Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2009 03:20 PM (I3Udb)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at December 04, 2009 03:24 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: jfalcon, the patriot at December 04, 2009 03:26 PM (omGgx)
IYKWIMAITYD
Posted by: franksalterego at December 04, 2009 07:23 PM (GKyIE)
--Oh, we do. Which way to the polling station?
Posted by: Dallas Cowboys at December 04, 2009 03:27 PM (I3Udb)
Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2009 03:53 PM (I3Udb)
OT
I swung by the Palin booksigning line up in Fairfax DC this afternoon. The Line started at Noon today, the signing is tommorrow at 11:00 AM. I have a picture on my cell phone, but lack the technology to move it to the computer
I might get an update in later on how big the line is now.
Off to the nearby Toys R US that is convienantly 2 store away from the booksigning at the BJs store in Fairlakes VA. This time i'm taking a better camera
Alas i will be unable to hang around for the signing though
Posted by: Cromagnum at December 04, 2009 03:56 PM (rRlh2)
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 04, 2009 07:56 PM (fFl1M)
--Already took care of that last night buying the 1.75 of Bacardi Gold. Damn, thats smooth shit.
Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2009 04:07 PM (I3Udb)
90 I live in Vegas. I and a whole bunch of friends have committed our lives and fortunes to getting rid of this pansy assed twit, Harry Reid. Next election This party hack, never an original thought Bastard will be sayonora. I can't wait
How did this fuckwad get elected ever? Somebody voted for him. But like Daschle, perhaps when he got the leadership position and people actually saw him day in and day out, his true fuckwadmanship became apparent.
Posted by: kansas at December 04, 2009 04:10 PM (i0WE5)
like Daschle, perhaps when he got the leadership position and people actually saw him day in and day out, his true fuckwadmanship became apparent.
Notice the dems never talk about dickwad daschle anymore? He was the high mucky-muck. Now that he's straight up private enterprise crooked you would never guess he was a dem senator.
Posted by: Dang Straights at December 04, 2009 04:13 PM (bOV32)
Vote hard. Vote often.
(Kansas? Shouldn't you be Henderson or Enterprise or something like that?)
Posted by: Iskandar at December 04, 2009 04:18 PM (u1pln)
Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2009 04:19 PM (I3Udb)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 04, 2009 04:22 PM (zgZzy)
The waste is safe for a minimum of 1,000,000 years in Yucca and anything said to the contrary is hysteria.
Humans have not existed for that long, much less Yucca mountain.
Helen Thomas has.
Posted by: LGoPs at December 04, 2009 04:27 PM (v/rEn)
Forgive me for being off topic...but the Boob Czar is the biggest douche I think I have ever laid eyes on. Seriously.
Here is a video of him chastising a reporter.
Posted by: crystal at December 04, 2009 04:33 PM (KVSUW)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Insobriety at December 04, 2009 04:43 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: John Holmes Dick at December 04, 2009 04:49 PM (vk51m)
>>110 Hey Harry, the war is fucking lost.
Hey Uncle Facts,
The interesting part about the prospect of losing the war in Afghanistan is that
there will be more terrorists inside American than there were in Iraq. There are
already dozens, if not hundreds of Hezbollah terrorist training camps throughout
Latin America, Cuba and Mexico. Thanks in large part to Hugo Chavez's financial benevolence. Hezbollah is deep in with the Mexican Mafia.
Ergo, we lose the war in Afghanistan and we will be seeing a virtual invasion on
American soil by an assortment of terrorist groups working in alliance. Osama
bin Laden will become to America what Napoleon or Hitler was to invading Russia. Suicide bombers will be exploding themselves in cities all across America.
Morons/Patriots, are you prepared to fight on your homeland soil?
Posted by: sickinmass at December 04, 2009 04:52 PM (g7J39)
Posted by: sickinmass at December 04, 2009 08:52 PM (g7J39)
Was referring to his campaign SiM, but you are dead on for that analysis. Yes, am ready again. Pres'ent Toonces, losing the wars we'd already won.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Insobriety at December 04, 2009 04:58 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: lowest strata at December 04, 2009 05:01 PM (+deAS)
Posted by: sickinmass at December 04, 2009 08:52 PM (g7J39)
--I wish the idiot Open Borders crowd would get that into their thick skulls. Gaia knows they have plenty of room in there.
Posted by: logprof at December 04, 2009 05:02 PM (I3Udb)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 04, 2009 05:04 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: chicocano at December 04, 2009 05:07 PM (2n5cq)
Posted by: dagny at December 04, 2009 05:12 PM (p+yYc)
I had to Bing her when I read "Milftastic."
If that doesn't sound like a euphemism, then nothing does.
Posted by: Nicole at December 04, 2009 05:12 PM (CH1cF)
In the phone booth, Clark Kent is tearing off his shirt and asserts- this is a job for Acorn-SEIU
Posted by: chicocano at December 04, 2009 05:17 PM (2n5cq)
Posted by: overman at December 04, 2009 05:22 PM (crDIp)
I had to Bing her when I read "Milftastic."
If that doesn't sound like a euphemism, then nothing does.
Posted by: Nicole at December 04, 2009 09:12 PM (CH1cF)
Keep binging that chicken?
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Insobriety at December 04, 2009 05:22 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: eman at December 04, 2009 05:31 PM (B+7+o)
Posted by: Truman North at December 04, 2009 05:42 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: volfan at December 04, 2009 05:47 PM (lF49h)
Posted by: weasels at December 04, 2009 05:48 PM (MaqIC)
Posted by: mrkwong at December 04, 2009 06:10 PM (G8Eo0)
I am hesitant to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't count out Harry Reid yet.
The steadfastly loyal voters who were [not] polled were the ones in cemeteries.
Posted by: Opinion at December 04, 2009 06:27 PM (Cta0m)
Posted by: I Need A Beer at December 04, 2009 06:32 PM (Tot+h)
Who'da thunk that being a Democrat majority leader is fatal to your political career? First Tommy Daschle, now poor Harry Reid.
Hey Harry, if you're looking to apply for a job in the Obama administration, don't forget to PAY YOUR TAXES.
Posted by: Max Entropy at December 04, 2009 06:59 PM (7FgWm)
#129 volfan at December 04, 2009 09:47 PM
Apologies for the late response. I usually expect no one to read, let alone respond.
Right now I'm just looking at what fits.
HIstorically, Obama has spent fabulous sums of money to achieve nothing, except for the enrivhment of his friends, who then take care of him. The Annenberg Challenge money, the grant to U Chicago Medical,and before those the housing project renovation program, are 3 examples.
In all three cases he had control or influence over lots of money, but no way to get it himself. But he was able to get it to friends who helped him out.
In all three cases, non-performance was the result, yet Obama came out ahead. We've seen this, but farther South. And on other continents. Most other continents.
Now, let's ask some questions.
Who is benefitting from the Porkulus, Cash-for-Clunkers, The GM-Chrysler Bailout, Obamacare, and C&T? Not the American people. Porkulus and Cash-for-Clunkers have conclusively proven this.
Who benefits? Potentially: Al Gore, the SEIU/UAW/ACORN and people who cash welfare checks for a living. Soros? If he, or others like him are involved, it is for political/historical/ego reasons (and secondarily for cash).
Remember, we're dealing with, literally, more wealth than the world has ever seen, in absolute terms and possibly in relative terms.
Certain major corporate executives may have been bought, at least temporarily, but they can influence their Congressmen and fight back, They have the money, influence and power. They could stop this. But will they?
Suddenly there are many possible options and outcomes, and technically, at least, a lot of risk to the US economy. With enough spending, possibly even a crash
Crashing the US economy menas destroying the Dollar, which essentially ends the international banking system, paper money and most credit, and for a long time, if not forever. Gold, land, coal and oil become much more valuable, as do power-generation systems (dams, nuclear plants) and maybe factories (if you can smelt/refine/fab/build it, you can barter). But gold and oil are high, and coal and land are not readily available; too much to lose by crashing the Dollar, unless you're already fabulously wealthy, driven by ego, hate the US, don't care or are stupid.
Getting sane again, yes, this is real conspiratorial/apocalyptic stuff, but probably none of this, certainly not a crash, was planned or even foreseen.
My guess is that things just snowballed once Obama got elected, and modest plans, eventually leading to a few sweetheart deals, kickbacks and "Social Justice", grew. And grew. And now there's this gigantic opportunity. I see various factions competing for really big payoffs. This looks like a one-time deal, but I wonder if everyone realizes this. I think they'll screw each other.
I think that there will not be enough of a combination of voters and a crippled economy/benefits-held-hostage scenario to overturn the Constitution (or at least a certain amendment), although technically the danger is there.
I think that 2010 will flush most if not all of the fools, spending will end, and there will be investigations.
We do have a problem though. If 2010 does not remove enough fools, then a possible result of the obscene spending is a crippled economy and political system, leading to another Mexico; get elected President, do a term or two, do things the right way, get paid.
Remember, Carlos Salinas retired from being El Presidente for 6 years, yet somehow managed to acquire about $2billion (no one knows how).
Everyone else stays poor. But there is Social Justice, Fairness, etc.
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