1 How long do we have to wait before we can say that the President's terrorism policy has failed?

I'm giving it until about 2 pm EDT today.

2 Is this B+ applied to terrorism?  What do we have to look forward to in the future:  New York got nuked, but only 400,000 died, and the City will be habitable again in less than five years, so....B+ !

3 I wish Napolitano was on every flight where the system "worked" like this.  Sooner or later the bad guys would get lucky and a lot of innocent people and one Bozo would die.

4 Must be the nouveau DHS , rabbits feet and horseshoes all around !

5 I wonder how many Democrats on that flight would share her same assessment???

6 "They're instituting changes to airline screening and in-flight procedures in reaction..." ... to keep the Danes in their seats during the last hour of flight!

7

Up is down. Newspeak at its finest.

8 Unbelievable.  Mr. I will bring the country together, has a collection of moonbats leading the left and they follow lockstep behind them with no concept of reality.  I had some hope that the Left would give up some of their dingyness when W left office.  I was wrong.  Ace may be hard pressed to keep the lid on the verbage around this slum, I mean blog, if this crap keeps up.

9 Aside from the failure of the PETN to detonate at high order, setting it off on final is not the best approach, either.

There's less a pressure differential between the cabin and the outside air. Just blowing a hole in the side of the plane may not be enough to destroy it.

But if the jet is at altitude, the pressure differential will have other secondary effects. The explosive decompression will often cause the cabin floor to deform and that will destroy the control cables. That would ultimately be what would cause the plane to crash.

10
Hey guys, the system worked !

11 Wow...I think she got her  logic chops from Chevy Chase

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLsDvGlIDh0

12 Napolitano, like virtually every other Obama appointment embodies the lack of qualification and demonstrated incompetence that makes this administration frightening beyond belief.

13 The system worked? What exactly is it designed to do?

14 Worked for whom?

15

"The system" apparently relies on stupid terrorists and heroic passengers. Welcome to our National Security plan!

16 Well of course the system worked - nobody blew up on Obama's watch, thereby not hurting his re-election chances

17 So, JanNap is admitting that the "system" is to rely on the bravery of random passengers to keep us safe.

However, doesn't our Government, run by Democrats, tell us every day that they know best for us? That they should tell us what to eat, when to smoke and how to live?

How is it that a Government that wants to rule every single moment of our lives is totally OK with letting fate take it's course on an airline and hoping for the best? In other words, it's OK to let a plane full of innocent people get blown up, we have no control of that,  however, you'd better not smoke or get fat!

Is it just me, or is this totallyfu*kcinginsane?

18 Maybe the Large Hadron Collider poked a hole into the Stupid Dimension and megatons of The Stupid are pouring in unchecked. Of course, The Stupid is attracted to more of the same, thus folks like Janet the Clown are absorbing the bulk of it.

19 This post deserves a Joker Janet, yes?

20 zzz...zzzz....zzz....what? some firecrackers on a plane?  well put them out!  that's how the system is supposed to work!

now i'm going back to sleep...zzz

21
The system worked? What exactly is it designed to do?

Posted by: arhooley at December 27, 2009 02:08 PM (VOhD+)

Evidently they contacted the Dutchman evil white man before hand and told him the exact moment the Nigerian terrorist disinfranchised youth of unknown ethnic and religious origin was going to blow love up the plane so he could jump out of his seat and leap upon the perp suspect.

22 She must resign immediately. We should call our reps today and demand this.

23 Who felt safer after 1/20/09? Yeah, me neither.

24 Yep, the system was working just fine when coyotes were trafficking slaves, drugs and criminals across the Arizona border under Janet's watchful eye.

25 The "system" always works.

You arrest the man caused disasterer then you ask him if he wants a lawyer.

He says, Why, yes, I would like an attorney.

Then a long trial ensues.

Lawyers love this system.

26 The "system" is getting Obama re-elected.  So 250 potential Obama voters didn't blow up, that's the important point.

Now if you'll excuse me, poon is stopping by soon

27 See, they need not interrupt The Guy Behind The Curtain for three hours because the system works.

28

Ms. Napolitano, if it hasn't been stated already:

"You lie!"

29 How long do we have to wait before we can say that the President's terrorism policy has failed?
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Forever. Look out for an official explanation soon:

"The policy didn't fail; our intelligence community did. Prosecutions begin tomorrow; follow-on gutting commences soon after. We'll be asking for money to beef up the various agencies -- so they can institute more effective sensitivity training."

30 Still crickets from Barry on this?  That fuckin' Gibbs was spouting the same bullshit as Napolitano this morning.  I have very evil thoughts about all of these people. 

31 When Candy Crowley on CNN says "Um, you just farted", you should just get up and go home.

32 Janet, what part of the system worked? Was it your inexcusable failure to require Nigeria to impose adequate screening protocols for US bound flights? Was it you irresponsible failure to enact international security measures requiring the rescreening of passengers from Nigeria? Was it your reckless failure to stop a known terrorist from boarding a US bound flight with an incendiary device that likely would have killed scores of people had it not apparently malfunctioned? Was it your unconscionable failure to have a US sky Marshall on board this plane? Was it the fact that a Dutch national subdued the terrorist with the help of the airline crew? Was it the fact that you have abjectly failed to recognize the existence of terrorism by calling it man made disaster instead? Or, is it the fact that you are an incompetent liar who succeeds only in shamelessly claiming credit when no credit is due?

what a disasterous comment for the Obama administration politically..... we must hammer this one home.

here's jake tapper calling it "nuts" that this bastard with known terrorist ties is not on a no fly list:

TAPPER: Let me ask you a question. Knowing the president -- I've been covering him for a few years -- I can't imagine that he would hear this guy's father reported to the U.S. embassy that he has extremist religious views, and within a matter of weeks, he boards an airplane with explosives on his person and is not subject to additional security. I can't believe that he would not hear that information and say, "that's nuts." Why did that happen?

GIBBS: Jake, he's heard that information and heard it not long after it was brought to the situation room. That's what has precipitated both a watch listing review and a detection capabilities review, to ensure that one, the information that we have goes through the process the right way and surfaces to those that have to make those decisions. Again, we have a watch list that this individual was on, that contains about 50 -- 550,000 names. So this individual was listed in November of 2009 on that database based on that information. The no-fly list and the selectee list...

(CROSSTALK)

TAPPER: But who's watching him? If he's on that watch list, who's watching him?

GIBBS: Well, again, Jake, I think if you read the papers this morning, you'll find that the name was listed, concern was brought, but the ability...

TAPPER: Brought to who? Anybody can just write down a name. I mean...

GIBBS: No, no, this is a database that a series of agencies enter names into, and a series of agencies draw information from. But again, Jake, the investigation will look backwards and figure out if any signs were missed, if any procedures can be changed about how names are watch-listed. But again, understand there are 18,000 people on either a selectee or a no-fly list. This is a database that contains -- I'm sorry, 550,000 of those names. It's a huge number. We have to ensure and the president has asked that a review be undertaken swiftly to ensure that any information that's gathered and put into any database, that it gets to where it needs to go, to the people that are making decisions.

33 If the system includes turning a blind eye to the clear and present danger that Islam presents to all of Western Civilization and relying upon untrained, unprepared citizens who somehow, by divine intercession, manage to thwart yet another misunderstood yute with magic underwear or shoes at the last possible second then yes it was a triumphant success. Congratulations, Janet, you miserable piece of shit. You are an embarrassment. Such a miserable failure of security would not be tolerated for Air Force One or Speaker of the House One. It should not be tolerated for any aircraft flying into or out of American airspace. There are people reading my words on this blog right now that will meet their fate in a mist of blood and flesh at the hands of Islamic jihadist directly due to the actions of this administration to coddle our enemies. God damn it, these people make me madder than hell.

34 "But again, Jake, the investigation will look backwards and figure out if any signs were missed," If? Frakking if?

35 Thanks for that AHFF.  Gibbs also spewed out some crap about, well, this system has been in place for quite a few years.  Didn't actually say "blame Bush," in so many words, but that's what he was going for.

36 Ah "the system worked"...

... good to know we're being kept safe by the Fingers Crossed Contingency.

37
Janet is a Hungry-Man caused disaster.

38 Oh noes! What did Frank Lutz say this time??

39 Not really OT, http://directorblue.blogspot.com/ Iranian protesters free comrades from a thug police van.

40

I'm hearing about new passenger safety procedures. Nothing on your lap during flight AT ALL, no visiting the can during the last HOUR of a flight, more pat-downs. Why? Because WE REFUSE TO PROFILE. I currently average about 4,000 miles of flying per year. Not enough to make a difference to anyone but me, but still -- all roadtrips now, unless I need to cross an ocean.

41 Janet Napolitano? Never heard of her.

42 The system did not work because Mr. Schuringa clearly violated Mr. Abdulmutallab's civil rights.  We will be pursuing vigorous legal action against him.

43 They say hope isn't a strategy, but it got these incompetent fuckweasels into office.

44 Well there goes my belated honeymoon plans for Ireland. Just told the wife that flying overseas just crossed into being not worth the risk. It is obvious that nobody is serious about the problem.

45 Didn't actually say "blame Bush," in so many words
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Then I will. I blame Bush for not having the guts to fucking PROFILE. Now that we've established teh stupid, can we please change it?

46 Hey! What everyone here who is criticizing Napolitano fails to understand is that the system DID work perfectly. You just don't understand the system.

See, it's like this:
1. The Constitution says that the Federal Government is responsible for national defense. Bah! That's a waste of taxpayer dollars! It's silly ideas like this that allow the Evil Boosh! and his Dark Overlord Cheney to bankrupt our country while starting pointless wars with our misunderstood Muslim friends.
2. All that money we're spending on national defense should be funding things like monuments to Democratic Senators much needed hospitals, green jobs, fixing potholes billions worth of critical infrastructure repairs and minority electoral control community organization and development.
3. Thanks to Obama (Our Lord and Savior, peace be upon him) we have tax revenues away from those pesky, old world thinking Constitutional mandates and are now giving it all back to the people. You know- from each according to their ability to each according to their need... and don't forget the government processing fee of approximately 1000% what it would cost to simply do things any other way.
4. All this further demonstrates why we need government-run health care. Look at that man who burned his hand while tackling the terrorist helping our misunderstood friend put out the inadvertent fire in his pants! In his native Holland, he would have been able to go to the hospital for only the cost of his tax contributions at rates over 150% of US health insurance costs free! Here he had to actually pay for disinfectant, burn cream and bandages with his own money instead of using his own money that we taxed him plus that that we taxed from all his neighbors!

So you see, everything is going EXACTLY as planned you stupid tea-baggers!



/channeling leftards

47

Economy is roaring back...check

Unemployment is under control and falling everyday...check

Fed healthcare is going to reduce cost and raise better care...check

Climate change science is settled, it's hot outside......check

Clunker program saved the auto industry.........check

The TSP system worked on preventing a major air disaster in Detroit....check

Tooth fairys, Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, Paul Bunyan etc. work for the federal government, for the Department of Homeland Security working directly under Janet Napolitano............................Check

48

Sure, the system worked so well that yet another of these a$$holes just tried the same thing @ NY. 

Great.  /

49 How do we know that even this dimbo knows that the system did not work? They're instituting changes to airline screening and in-flight procedures in reaction. If everything were hunky-dory, there'd be no need for that.

That, and the fact that the guy was able to get a bomb onboard.

50 This is Karl Rove's work!  He put Abdulmutallab on the plane to embarrass Obama!  And just when health care reform passed the Senate, clearly he's trying to scare everyone - I QUESTION THE TIMING

51 Baghdad Bob Gibbs should end up in jail before 2012.

This stuttering, finger-painting, poo-flinging buffoon's news conferences make the crap Saddam's guy spouted look like the Gospel.

I thought Clinton hired some slimy spokestards, but the new freak show has lowered the bar cut down the bar and trampled on it.


I wonder if Janet has finished her Honey-Baked Walrus from Christmas?

52 The system is two-fold:

1)  The terrorists must fail, setting fire to themselves,

and

2) Passengers can do it for themselves.

As long as these policies are followed, we are safe.

53 CNN has breaking news....apparently the same flight has had an emergency declared by the pilot...

54 Mister Nepolitano should resign.

55

Well to the progressive mindset, the system did "work".

Remember, Obama said after 9/11 that we need to "understand the sources of madness". Because you know, it's more important to understand why someone would fly planes into buildings or conversely, light their dick on fire, rather than determining how to prevent the next attack. Or you know having the ability to actually name the enemy. That's just nonsense and nuance.

So it "worked" in the sense that we're now discovering info on this goon w/out addressing the real concern. Oh wait, that's not true. They did take a step backwards by saying that people are now no longer able to get up one hour before a flight lands.

Smart.Power.

56 Janet Appallingtono is going to let many people be killed someday. This is not hyperbole.

57 Northwest Flight 253, Delta from Amsterdam to Detroit.  Emergency declarerd by the pilot.  All pasengers are now off the plane, which is in an isolated area of the airport and they had to disembark via portable stairs.   The incident began unfolding in the air.

58 The president has announced he is heading up a full investigation into whether or not the foilers acted stupidly or jumped to a conclusion.

59 AHFF, that interview with Gibbs is just precious. Our "system" is about as effective as writing letters to Santa Claus. Who reads them? Who acts on them?

60 Not allowing people to leave their seats during the last hour of flight makes perfect Obama-sense.

If the evil, young white Dutchman had just stayed in his seat, the disenfranchised oppressed Nigerian youth of undetermined religious extraction would have been able to conduct his undetermined religious rites in peace.

Problem solved, system works.

61 Clinton claimed credit for stopping the millenium bomber (though that was thanks to nothing but an alert customs agent who had little concept of political correctness). Liberals think that newspeak is real. They have come to the idea that, if they act as if everything is fine, everyone will be convinced that everything is fine.

Now, if it were up to me, Napolitano's idiocy about claiming that "the system worked" would be enough to have her selling pencils on the street, tomorrow - and that includes the idiot who hired her and the fools in the Senate who confirmed her.

Oh well. This nation is limping into oblivion, led by retards and cowards.

62 Same flight, different day.  Fox (TV) has it, too.

63 Guys don't you think it is ironic that this was said and now there is a second incident on the same flight...253 following the same route?  And the AP said they arrested another Nigerian man.

64 Thanks again FiftyTwo Percenters, you retarded, fucking, fucks.

65 Create a poster to go in every boarding area with a group photo of Napolitano, Reno, Schalala, Albright, Hillary and 67 other libtard skanks with a caption in all the major Eastern languages that states,
Here are your 72 Virgins. Do you really want to die for this?

66 Damn it, Janet!  I love you...

67 Maybe they forgot to correlate their google calendars?

68 Sorry,  when I wrote "NY" it was a goof, hubby had yelled out to me, I misunderstood him

69

How could I have worked?  I've been laid off since January.

70 Will they wake Stalin this time?

71 i'm a bitter clingy racist, so i'm calling "FAIL" as of November 4th, 2008. 

fuck him, fuck his appointees, and a double "fuck you" to every cretin and fool who voted for his incompetent ass.

72

Create a poster to go in every boarding area with a group photo of Napolitano, Reno, Schalala, Albright, Hillary and 67 other libtard skanks with a caption in all the major Eastern languages that states,
Here are your 72 Virgins. Do you really want to die for this?

-

Let me get a copy of that for my new charity website burqasforjanet.com  

73 This is the second incident, he has to go back to the WH, this is nuts..

74 Mr. Gibbs is full of shit.

550,000 names is nothing for a modern database.

I created a database with over 14 million unique entries and it has to verify hundreds of entries of additional unique records, daily. Used for RF ID scans/verification.

If the record is a duplicate id number it is immediately brought to the user's attention.

Platform: MS Access 2000/Win2000.
Time to verify: 1- 2 seconds.
Created: Summer 2000.
Still in use today with over 29 million records; each unique.

75 Another incident on the same motherfucking route??! You can not make this shit up! Hahahhahhha goodbye Mr. Napolitano.

76 burqasforjanet.com

It would be best if libtard womenfolk were required to wear Burkas.
And perhaps self euthanize. For the planet you know.

77

"You need information that is specific and credible if you're going to bar people from air travel," Napolitano said.

Apparently, coming into the US is a right, like health care, and not a privilege.

78 67 = threadwinner

79 @ 33: I just watched the video of Napolitano here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34600830#34600830

You are absolutely right. Americans are going to die because of this imbecile. What is she doing heading up Homeland Security? She doesn't even seem competent enough to run a grade school PE class.

80

Guys, we've lost perspective here.

The important thing to wonder is how this affects President Pisspant's vacation plans!! Did he get to eat his waffles with mango chutney??

He's worked so hard at fucking up the country-he deserves some r&r. It's really not nice they tried this over his holiday.

81

If Oblahblah goes back to the wh, I hope he takes the very next flight cough**253**cough

82

"You need information that is specific and credible if you're going to bar people from air travel," Napolitano said.

So, the words of a parent are not credible...a-f'ing-mazing

83 it's become quite apparent that you really couldnÂ’t get a position in this administration if you weren't 110% Â’stuck on stupidÂ’Â…. Just your average, run-of-the-mill 80% nitwit democrat didnÂ’t have a shot of a job with the Clown PrinceÂ…

84 Where ARE the Federal Air Marshalls, and why are they NOT capping these jihadi pr!cks?!?!?!

85 Amsterdam doesn't allow for Federal Air Marshalls. Smart, huh??

86

Guess we need a Status of Forces Citizens Agreement to allow an accompaniment from now on.....

87 Henceforth, no one named "Janet" shall be allowed in any administrative role.

Problem solved.

***

Isn't it this Janet that listed conservatives as a homeland threat?  Her system worked ... the terrorist was not a conservative.

88 This country is bring run by Big Bird and the Sesame Street gang.

89 Amsterdam doesn't allow for Federal Air Marshalls. Smart, huh??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 27, 2009 02:54 PM (0VMfR)

Then the Dutch can stay home and not breath the air of freedom here in the USA while it still exists...

90 "You need information that is specific and credible if you're going to bar people from air travel," Napolitano said.

But you, Mr. Guy Who Went To A Gun Show, can have your name added to this no-fly list without any notification and have your freedom to air travel, purchase a legal firearm and, in some states, buy ammunition rescinded without any ability to rectify the blacklisting.

91 Armed citizens... for when seconds count and police response is measured in minutes...

92

If Delta/NW is/are U.S. based, then I think we should be able to claim jurisdiction about these flights, particularly those inbound to THIS country.  Yeah, as if....

93 about = aboard

94 How come it took 3 hours for the president to be notified?  Was he on a 3 hour tour? Hmmm?

95 Let's just hope that the second incident isn't a sign that Al Qaeda is launching an "martyrdom operation-a-day" for the rest of 2009. 

96 Aside from the failure of the PETN to detonate at high order, setting it off on final is not the best approach, either.

[whole buncha advice for how Al Qaida on how they dicked up]

Only one thing missing... you forgot to invoice them for the corrections, Brad.

97 Maybe high altitude damage is worse, but IF they could bring it down in a city it would be more spectacular, and do more collateral damage.

I don't quite get why Al Qaeda can't get shoulder launched missiles more easily.  Are borders really that tight, that they have to try to get their terrorists on board and to get them to fail at igniting their shoe, in an effort that may not even bring down the plane?

98

merry new year!

 

99

TAPPER: But who's watching him? If he's on that watch list, who's watching him?

GIBBS: Well, again, Jake, I think if you read the papers this morning, you'll find that the name was listed, concern was brought, but the ability...

TAPPER: Brought to who? Anybody can just write down a name. I mean...

GIBBS: No, no, this is a database that a series of agencies enter names into, and a series of agencies draw information from. But again, Jake, the investigation will look backwards and figure out if any signs were missed, if any procedures can be changed about how names are watch-listed. But again, understand there are 18,000 people on either a selectee or a no-fly list. This is a database that contains -- I'm sorry, 550,000 of those names. It's a huge number. We have to ensure and the president has asked that a review be undertaken swiftly to ensure that any information that's gathered and put into any database, that it gets to where it needs to go, to the people that are making decisions.

Has Tapper had enough yet? And if not, when?

100 89  While which exists, Holland or the US?  Both seem to be in the death throes of freedom.

101 "Hadn't Abdulmutallab heard that we are closing Gitmo?"

Hadn't Abdulmutallab heard Obama's unprecedented Cairo speech?

102 Just a real sick guy flying in from Nigeria. Perfectly normal. Move along.

103 I wouldn't want to be a nun in a wheelchair who plans air travel tomorrow. It will be even worse for her if she is on an oxygen bottle.

104

wtf i'm glad i haven't had internet all day. i'll be back later after i smash my head into the closest inanimate object until i pass out.

105

A first-class, Grade A stupid b**ch.  Clueless.

106 Look, the science is settled.  I WON you bitches.  HEH.   Who do YOU want answering that 3am telephone call?  I never said 3am IN MY TIME ZONE you stupid fuckwits.

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