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December 01, 2009

Obama Speech Preview: Retreat Dates Are Already Set
— Gabriel Malor

Yes, the Left is so in love with the idea of a second Vietnam War that the President cannot be dissuaded from announcing dates for the end-game in Afghanistan in his speech tonight.

And don't even bother trying to ask Robert "Baghdad Bob" Gibbs about whether it might not be such a good idea for the President to alert our enemies as to the moment he's decided it will be politically feasible to retreat. He doesn't get it:

Q Can I ask, Robert, just two Afghanistan questions? One, what's your answer to the people who say by stressing over and over again that this won't be open-ended, you're basically telling our enemies just wait us out, and our -- or as well, allies, hedge your bets, because we're going to be leaving?
MR. GIBBS: That to me doesn't make any logical sense. I mean, if you -- if you're to believe that a certain insurgency has the momentum and they're increasingly occupying and attacking and gathering more space, are you saying that all we have to do is say we're going to leave at a certain date and they'll stop their -- they'll stop their pursuit or their momentum? If that's the case, then, maybe the President should just say that. I mean, it doesn't actually make any -- I mean, it's a great talking point. It doesnÂ’t actually make any logical -- it doesnÂ’t make any logical sense.

This foot-half-in-the-door thing the President is doing is going to get more people killed. He either needs to commit wholeheartedly, or he needs to say "fuckit" and pull our troops out. As it is, he's putting our troops and the mission at risk by leaving them hanging out over there without the support they've asked for.

It's his inexperience again that's the root of the problem. Everyone knows that we're not going to be in Afghanistan forever; that our commitment cannot be open-ended. But there's no reason he has to tell our enemies ever freakin' detail of the plan. The only reason he's announcing withdrawal dates now is because his political advisors are telling him he has to throw a bone to Michael Moore and the Far Left.

Obama does not have the courage or the will to put winning the war above Rahm Emanuel's political ambitions.

Let's See What the Big Dick Thinks About All This: Cheney speaks:

In a 90-minute interview at his suburban Washington house, Cheney said the presidentÂ’s Â“agonizingÂ” about Afghanistan strategy Â“has consequences for your forces in the field.Â”
Â“I begin to get nervous when I see the commander in chief making decisions apparently for what I would describe as small Â‘pÂ’ political reasons, where heÂ’s trying to balance off different competing groups in society,Â” Cheney said.
Â“Every time he delays, defers, debates, changes his position, it begins to raise questions: Is the commander in chief really behind what theyÂ’ve been asked to do?Â”

Yup.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:56 AM | Comments (92)
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1 Fuck Obama.

Posted by: RarestRX at December 01, 2009 06:58 AM (rmNST)

2 It doesnÂ’t actually make any logical -- it doesnÂ’t make any logical sense.

And believe me I know logical sense. Did you listen to what I JUST said?
BTW WTF is logical sense anyway?

Posted by: Robert Gibbs at December 01, 2009 07:00 AM (Q1lie)

3 Fuck Obama

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at December 01, 2009 07:01 AM (WVBjj)

4 "Obama does not have the courage or the will to put winning the war above Rahm Emanuel's political ambitions." Keep going, Gabe. You're getting closer.

Posted by: eman at December 01, 2009 07:01 AM (ubXrB)

5 It makes perfectly logical sense to me. Obambi hates the military might of the US, and so he wants our troops killed and demoralized. What part of this is hard to understand?

Posted by: TimothyJ at December 01, 2009 07:02 AM (IKKIf)

6 He's announcing withdrawal dates because he does not want Afganistan to be punished with a baby. His political cover broke and he can't go on unless he announces he will withdraw first.

Posted by: Rocks at December 01, 2009 07:04 AM (Q1lie)

Fuck Obama.

Don't make me do your dirty work.

Posted by: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg at December 01, 2009 07:07 AM (Mv/2X)

8 Could somebody direct me to the nearest off-ramp. Please?

Posted by: Lord of All Landmasses, Corporal Obama at December 01, 2009 07:07 AM (f/uoy)

9 This foot-half-in-the-door thing the President is doing is going to get more people killed.

That is the key. The traitorous bastard intends, and has always intended, to cut and run. That is what commiecrats always do, at least since LBJ was in office. The announcement of 30K troops is nothing more than a lie for political cover.

He will send in a few here and there until some "new crisis" (that can't be wasted) comes up. The he will withdraw and declare victory. The MSM and a few urban stupids will actually believe him.

I lay every death in Stan since he took office at his feet. He truly is a traitorous bastard.

Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 07:10 AM (CDUiN)

10 Obama is an enormous yalping p***sy. He is Narcissus, admiring himself endlessly in the Media mirror, which admires him back because it reinforces their Narcisism about being progressive and tolerant and openend minded and not the least bit frightened of this black man (which is because he is an enormous yalping pussy...)

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at December 01, 2009 07:12 AM (KeOQp)

11 Who will be the last to die in Obama's illegal war against the Pakistani tribal regions and Afghanistan's civilian population? After all, they didn't bring down the WTC on 9/11, they aren't threatening America's vital interests, etc., etc. So why are we attacking them in a manner reminiscent of Jenjis Khan?

/ John Kerry, D., USSR

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Also, Gibbs is a retard. It's not that we merely say we're leaving that would cause AQ and the Taliban rebels to hunker down, it's the fact that we're actually going to leave with the job left unfinished. Dude needs a beat down sometimes for being so intentionally obtuse.

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at December 01, 2009 07:12 AM (8/DeP)

12 are you saying that all we have to do is say we're going to leave at a certain date and they'll stop their -- they'll stop their pursuit or their momentum?

Arrgh! No, dumbass Gibbs, the complete opposite. They'll burn resources to push us out rather than husband them for a long fight.

It's the same as sacrificing the Viet Cong during Tet to make us take the exit ramp.

Posted by: toby928 at December 01, 2009 07:14 AM (PD1tk)

13 Afghanistan?

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 01, 2009 07:14 AM (fDWFP)

That last Democrats to win wars interned 125,000 Japanese and dropped two atomic bombs on population centers.

The rest tried to be surgical and proportionate. How did that work out?

Posted by: Randall Hoven at December 01, 2009 07:14 AM (yxBFl)

15 I've seen this movie before, and it ends with helicopters.

Posted by: toby928 at December 01, 2009 07:15 AM (PD1tk)

16 This doofus is a train wreck disguised as the Chief Executive.

I've said it a hundred times, but it bears repeating. When this is all over, Obama is gonna turn out so bad that he'll make Jimmeh Carter look like Thomas F*cking Jefferson.

Posted by: Hurricane Mikey at December 01, 2009 07:15 AM (TJoID)

17 This is all Monopoly money to him. The troops, their lives, their families, the war. Everything.

Posted by: libbyt at December 01, 2009 07:15 AM (5I0Yr)

18 At least I shot down the Jerry bastard, the Red Baron

Posted by: Snoopy at December 01, 2009 07:16 AM (cvvNY)

19 In other news, firemen has decided that fires that take more than five minutes to fight are not worth the open-ended commitment.

Posted by: Fred Fry at December 01, 2009 07:17 AM (JXdhy)

20 I hope I am wrong, but my spider sense tells me that "half-assed" will be the operative term tonight.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 01, 2009 07:17 AM (B+qrE)

Fuck Obama.

Cripes, it's about time someone else took a turn.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 01, 2009 07:17 AM (wLgj0)

22 What did you expect from a Chump-in-Chief 'poll juggler' who's a mile wide and an inch deep?

He's more afear'd of his Moonbat base than any 'enemy' [foreign or domestic].

Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 01, 2009 07:18 AM (lYKj1)

Not that I like Michael Moore (and I can't stand him) but MM hammers pretty hard against Obama on Afghanistan:

http://tinyurl.com/yj42o9y

Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple. And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do -- destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed in you. With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics. You will teach them what they've always heard is true -- that all politicians are alike. I simply can't believe you're about to do what they say you are going to do. Please say it isn't so.

Posted by: markytom at December 01, 2009 07:19 AM (S2usV)

24 Obama really is a coward. He has more drive when it comes to winning an election. When it is an election, victory is a word.

I bet every cadet at West Point will be giving him a golf clap tonight. And my guess is that that the only thing that makes any of them really afraid is the fact that he is the Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Jack at December 01, 2009 07:19 AM (bvDV5)

25 At this point, because of who he is, I'd rather he just pull the plug and get everyone out.

Either commit to win decisively or come home.

Posted by: The Hammer at December 01, 2009 07:19 AM (YBTwf)

26 This is actually a great idea. What don't you conservative fuckturds understand?

Posted by: The Taliban at December 01, 2009 07:19 AM (5I0Yr)

27 Barry has never accepted responsiblity for anything and he really doesn't want to accept it for this. He's gotten by on bullshit and not being held accountable and now for the first time the self-absorbed shit has to make a real decision. The chickens are coming home to roost.

Posted by: TheQuietman at December 01, 2009 07:20 AM (1Jaio)

28 This endless f'n pandering to what amounts to the idiot-fringe 15%ers (at best) threatens to take us right down the crapper. I know...Barry's one of them, but it's killing this country.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 01, 2009 07:21 AM (554T5)

29 It just doesn't make any logical sense to put lowfat cream cheese on a bagel. None whatsoever. Or timetables on the buffet.

Posted by: "Chubs" Gibbs at December 01, 2009 07:21 AM (GwPRU)

30 And if you lost Micheal Moore, you've lost........about 400 lbs.

He's been dieting?

Posted by: toby928 at December 01, 2009 07:25 AM (PD1tk)

31 So exactly when did Smirky Bob pin on his stars?
Hell, I was in the AF and even I know better than tell the enemy when I'm leaving. Jaysus, damn!

Posted by: Joseph Brown at December 01, 2009 07:27 AM (mumWu)

32 all BHO should do is read chuckie's archives and realize they will wait.

his pride and arrogance will blind him to what needs to happen.

inexperience can be helped - arrogance can only be fixed by a fall or repentance & that's not going to happen since he views himself higher than Jesus.

Posted by: the slob at December 01, 2009 07:29 AM (i1+rx)

33 Obama is laying the foundation for his own destruction, he just doesn't know it yet. The meme is already taking hold that he's a wimp, or at the very least that he's too indecisive to make strong decisions when necessary. His speech tonight (and subsequent actions, or lack thereof) will only continue to build his reputation along those lines. I still can't get away from the felling that this guy is a one and done on purpose. These decisions don't strike me as a good strategy to get you reelected. If he pulls out precipitously before the end of his first term then he's done politically.

Posted by: volfan at December 01, 2009 07:33 AM (lF49h)

34 It's his inexperience again that's the root of the problem.

It's a factor, but it can be overcome. I'd say arrogance and/or apathy, tinged with that desire for popularity. W didn't have hands-on experience in war strategery either, but he had the willingness to consult with guys who did, and he cared about the outcome of operations in Iraq more than he cared about getting a thumbs-up from the drivers of pop culture. (And hell, anyone who has ever seen Star Wars should have some idea of how rebel forces react when they know the empire's plans.)

I lay every death in Stan since he took office at his feet.

Don't forget the media clowns who told the masses that experience was irrelevant, image was everything. Or the mouthbreathers who believed them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 01, 2009 07:33 AM (NtiET)

35 Afghanistan has never had national unity. Each region has one or more tribal units killing each other for power. It's their national pastime in what they call their paradise. What magic is going to happen since Obama is our glorious leader our new USA revoution which is well on it's way to Solialism.

Posted by: mystry at December 01, 2009 07:34 AM (kmgIE)

36 MR. GIBBS: That to me doesn't make any logical sense. I mean, if you -- if you're to believe that a certain insurgency has the momentum and they're increasingly occupying and attacking and gathering more space, are you saying that all we have to do is say we're going to leave at a certain date and they'll stop their -- they'll stop their pursuit or their momentum? If that's the case, then, maybe the President should just say that. I mean, it doesn't actually make any -- I mean, it's a great talking point. It doesnÂ’t actually make any logical -- it doesnÂ’t make any logical sense.

English motherfucker! Do you speak it?

Posted by: Jules Winnfield at December 01, 2009 07:37 AM (FCWQb)

37 I seem to remember Geraldo Rivera being pilloried for making a vague-at-best mention of the destination of the unit he was with during Iraqi Freedom. Obama is e-mailing the enemy the battle plans so that things will run more smoothly.

Posted by: Steve L. at December 01, 2009 07:38 AM (Gkhxf)

38 So now all the lefties that were throwing the Chickenhawk slur are going to enlist in the Marines or Army. Right?

Posted by: Huckleberry at December 01, 2009 07:39 AM (s2bW4)

39 Obama doesn't know when to shut up. He wants to be open and transparent. Yea, when it's about bringing down the US standard of living and the Constitution.

Posted by: mystry at December 01, 2009 07:41 AM (kmgIE)

40 Right. Telegraph your punches so more of our forces die. Fuck Obama.

Posted by: ahem at December 01, 2009 07:42 AM (Ldu+P)

41 I've said it a hundred times, but it bears repeating. When this is all over, Obama is gonna turn out so bad that he'll make Jimmeh Carter look like Thomas F*cking Jefferson.

Posted by: Hurricane Mikey at December 01, 2009 11:15 AM (TJoID)

Obama isn';t another Carter. He is, to quote my brother, "Lyndon Baines Obama." He sits in the White House, trying to micro-manage a war on the other side of the world, convinced he is smarter than everybody else. Meanwhile, the anti-war left grows more disenchanted. A nice pool subject would be when the first Obama effigies are burnt during an anti-war demonstration.

This is going to end in a terribly ugly fashion, and the only saving grace is that Afghanistan alone may deny Teh Won a second term.

Disclaimer: the thought of a political victory built on the sacrificed lives of our young men and women in the armed forces makes me sick. And very, very angry.

Posted by: Josef K. at December 01, 2009 07:43 AM (7+pP9)

Already I can see Taliban and Alqaeda calendars with a big red circle around Obumblefuck's withdrawal date. We leave, and then THEY "surge" into Kabul and Kandahar for a wholesale slaughter.

Has there ever been a larger fuckwit to occupy the Oval Office?

Is it true the White House restrooms have KY Jelly tubes bearing the Presidential Seal?

Posted by: effinayright at December 01, 2009 07:45 AM (iGCez)

43 A nice pool subject would be when the first Obama effigies are burnt during an anti-war demonstration.

By American lefty protesters, right?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 01, 2009 07:48 AM (NtiET)

44 Stop criticizing Barry over this. The man-child spent months pretending that he was working on a decision and the best he could come up with is off-ramps. How much more can we expect of him?

Posted by: TheQuietman at December 01, 2009 07:48 AM (1Jaio)

45 What's our exit strategy in the fight against global warming? Surely were not making an open ended commitment.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2009 07:49 AM (xxgag)

46 Obama doesn't just understand logic. Obama is logic.

Posted by: Bob Gibbs at December 01, 2009 07:50 AM (xxgag)

47 Barak Hussein Obama: The reason muzzies are sure God is on their side.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 01, 2009 07:50 AM (dQdrY)

48 52 A nice pool subject would be when the first Obama effigies are burnt during an anti-war demonstration.

By American lefty protesters, right?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 01, 2009 11:48 AM (NtiET)

Exactly. He is LBJ redux, and I expect demonstrations at the Pentagon before this is over. I think he is going to lose the affection of the "Young Persons" (as they say in Britain) over Health Insurance, and the way his economic policies screw a generation of young - and especially black - potential voters. Combined with a Democrat Party addicted to grandstanding about the war, I think this may be the perfect political storm.

Posted by: Josef K. at December 01, 2009 07:54 AM (7+pP9)

49 Fuck Obama. The fuckin cowardly yellow sissy ball-washin bastard.

Carter II is the best friend the terrorist muz have had since Carter I.

Posted by: sifty at December 01, 2009 08:00 AM (15gto)

And The One phoned Allied world leaders to let them know in advance what he was going to do re. Afghanistan on Tuesday... except for Canada who (woo-hoo!) got a personal phone call from Joe Biden, you know, because Joe Biden led Canadian troops ashore on Juno Beach on the Normandy D-Day after having returned from running the Canadian battalions in the joint-U.S-Canada First Special Service Force's section of the Anzio beachhead so we trust him so much.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2009 08:01 AM (2qU2d)

51 Gibbs' own comments betray a "dangerous stupidity". In fact, he doesn't apparently understand the question and answers one that wasn't asked. The point of the question was, "Do you think that our enemies will be emboldened by our defeatist in chief's willingness to stab his allies in the back and run home to mama?" To which he answered, "Well, that's just silly." Poor guy probably had a lot of trouble after school in the parking lot. The Marquis de Sade once said, "Pain is instructive." I'm questioning whether that applies to people whose ears mysteriously don't slam together.

Posted by: tg at December 01, 2009 08:02 AM (pY2OC)

Well this pussyfooting prevaricator of a POTUS now owns his own war. It only took him three bleeping months to make up his mind--or since he announced a new and revised strategy at the end of March, maybe it's taken him 9 months to get this thing out of him--er "her". And like the tar baby, the "warmonger" label Dems love to put on anybody is going to stick on him.

I don't give any significance to that--he's finally doing the half assed right thing.

Posted by: Happy Fellow at December 01, 2009 08:03 AM (ktYjH)

53 What we need is another apology offensive.

Posted by: Bob Gibbs at December 01, 2009 08:05 AM (xxgag)

54 Cheney-Bolton 2012 Hang in there, West Point!

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2009 08:06 AM (f/uoy)

55 Yeah, Cheney's such a good critic because he would never invade a country for political reasons.

Posted by: JEA at December 01, 2009 08:06 AM (H7yeS)

56 On the day after the Obama Surrender, I hope there is a wave of resignations in the military.

This orange (yellow and red) piece of shit isn't fit to lead a shopping trip to a dollar store.

Posted by: sifty at December 01, 2009 08:10 AM (15gto)

57 Does anybody see it? Obamao is not retreating, he is going to put a "friendly" dictator in there, a dictator who is not a muslim fundmentalist, but one that is just this side of "Mecca" friendly, accepetable to the U.S. . Alot like the Nixon Vietnam strategy, instead of "Vietnamization", it wil be "Afgainstanization" . That program worked out well for the Vietmanese people, or the one's that survived the purge.

Posted by: Leonard Van Noord at December 01, 2009 08:12 AM (1kwr2)

That to me doesn't make any logical sense. I mean, if you -- if you're to believe that a certain insurgency has the momentum and they're increasingly occupying and attacking and gathering more space, are you saying that all we have to do is say we're going to leave at a certain date and they'll stop their -- they'll stop their pursuit or their momentum? If that's the case, then, maybe the President should just say that.

I get the feeling Obama is counting on our enemies doing exactly that.Then he can claim that things have calmed down enough that we can bug out.

He's building his own off ramp so to speak.

Posted by: Mal at December 01, 2009 08:12 AM (Z+qzA)

"Yeah, Cheney's such a good critic because he would never invade a country for political reasons. "

Your point asshole?

Posted by: Todd at December 01, 2009 08:13 AM (LLOGQ)

60 The United States survived Lyndon Johnson, and it survived Carter. It might be able to survive Obama. Prayer is required.

Posted by: Bob at December 01, 2009 08:15 AM (Rw6eH)

61 Precedent Obama Productions, Inc. has to go to West Point so he can butch up his skinny candy ass and get some uniforms in the background for pictures.

Despicable cowardly hippy Vichy bastard administration.

And Baghdad Bob Gibbs isn't worthy to wipe a GI's ass.

Posted by: sifty at December 01, 2009 08:16 AM (15gto)

62 Hey Mr. Taliban
Tally me banana.

Posted by: Calypso Obama at December 01, 2009 08:19 AM (xxgag)

63 JEA. Please don't breed.

Posted by: sifty at December 01, 2009 08:20 AM (15gto)

64 So his "strategy" is to send a bunch more troops over there and have them run around and get shot at for a few months and then come home.

And it took him seven months to come up with this bit of military genius?

Such intellect! A military mind worthy of LBJ- and bound for the same fate.

Posted by: Nighthawk at December 01, 2009 08:22 AM (OtQXp)

65 Umbrage noted and ignored. :-) You know I love ya.

Posted by: sifty at December 01, 2009 08:26 AM (15gto)

66 If I was still in the military, the fight in me would almost be gone, the only thing that would keep me going, would be the guys next to me...Fuck Obama and all of cocksucking staff

Posted by: Todd at December 01, 2009 08:28 AM (LLOGQ)

67 So his "strategy" is to send a bunch more troops over there and have them run around and get shot at for a few months and then come home.

And it took him seven months to come up with this bit of military genius?

Posted by: Nighthawk at December 01, 2009 12:22 PM (OtQXp)

If that's true, I'm glad we didn't go with the three month plan.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2009 08:30 AM (xxgag)

68 This is going to kill the jugeared idiot in the polls. GWB polls nosedived after the Harriet Myers nomination because conservatives in the base finally had enough of his liberal aisle crossing shit. The media liked to blame it on the "unpopular war". Hell, there are even some morons here who blamed McLame's loss on the "unpopular war".

The truth is though that he lost the base by playing up to the liberals. Here the idiot is trying to live up to his own press by seeming to support the war at the same time he actively shuns it. He is going to lose his "base" over at KOS and DU. Polls numbers will soon start dropping after this speech and it will not be because "Republicans" are going more against him.

Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 08:31 AM (CDUiN)

69 "Yeah, Cheney's such a good critic because he would never invade a country for political reasons."

It's as though you're trying to make some point, and failing utterly.

Posted by: toby928 at December 01, 2009 08:34 AM (PD1tk)

70 Democrats:
When the war absolutely, positively has to be lost overnight.

Posted by: sifty at December 01, 2009 08:52 AM (15gto)

71 Whom the gods would detroy, they first make mad.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 01, 2009 08:58 AM (dQdrY)

72 Related (if geeky) parody: Cerebral Obama Says "Path to Victory" in Afghanistan Lies through Wormholes and an Infinite Number of Alternate Universes: tinyurl.com/yev7yzk

Posted by: Melvin Winter at December 01, 2009 09:02 AM (nF4Jh)

73 If the number is 30,000 then that's worse than it sounds. It sounds like the General's wanted 40k, will get 30k. But (from what I understand) the actual request was for between 40k and 80k more troops. So Obama isn't lowballing by 25%, he's cutting the midpoint by 50%! I'll restate for clarity. The Gens wanted between 40k and 80k where 40k was the bare minimum and 80k was plenty (more than 80k would have been difficult to supply and simply to find!). And Obama will "compromise" by giving less than the bare minimum and asking them to make do.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 01, 2009 09:05 AM (I2+u5)

74 Obama himself said when he is going to bring the troops home. SOON! Soon translates to be just after he is re elected to his 2nd term. he will announce the troop withdrawal three months before the election.This way, the troops will not directly vote against him, and the adoring left will all be on the same bus again. Politics as usual.

Posted by: mystry at December 01, 2009 09:16 AM (kmgIE)

75 Wow. It's as if they spent the last few months attempting to perfectly balance the desires of their special interest groups. Amazing.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 01, 2009 09:32 AM (AfPnb)

Had a meeting this morning with two associates from Chicago. They flew here to talk business and yet we spent nearly an hour dissecting the BO administration. One says that cocktail talk is starting to include new "you know I didn't vote for Obama" asides.

A staffer asked me earlier today what I was watching on business TV. I told him, "our stock prices which have inexplicaby risen over a buck even while traffic remains at prior century levels." He asked when this was going to turn around. I said may when BO's policies kick in. He says, "Policies? What policies? I voted for that guy and have no idea what he's trying to do."

One more person to blame.

Posted by: iowavette at December 01, 2009 09:51 AM (0JTac)

77 Hmmmm.

Who wants to be the last one to die for an Obama photo op?

Posted by: memomachine at December 01, 2009 10:00 AM (/+tPT)

78 Fox is still pushing the "40,000 troop" request and they are now saying there was more military concern here than a political concern.

Why are they trying to suck his cock? As the ball headed baboon said in the best Clint movie, "if you want to pop that puppy's can you don't have to grease him so much".

Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 10:04 AM (CDUiN)

79 As I've said before, the delay was due to the difficulty in determining how to lose "properly". I am saddened that another generation of Americans will have to live with the new ghost of Vietnam.

Posted by: Pawn at December 01, 2009 10:35 AM (eJXbB)

Maybe people should start mailing copies of Dereliction of Duty to the Joint Chiefs.

Posted by: butch at December 01, 2009 10:42 AM (8X9tr)

81 Its always good to hear the point of view of a bunch of armchair quarterbacks. And that's fine as long as you're cheering for your favorite sports team and slapping all your buddies on the back and bragging about what a great job you would do if you were the coach. What most of you don't appear to notice is that your "bravery" and tough talk is putting other people in harms way. I can't help but notice that all those brave talking men you quote who love their country so (Rush, Cheney, and O'Reilly) don't have a single day of uniform service between.

Posted by: left wing loon at December 01, 2009 11:28 AM (MqsJF)

82 98 Its always good to hear the point of view of a bunch of armchair quarterbacks. And that's fine as long as you're cheering for your favorite sports team and slapping all your buddies on the back and bragging about what a great job you would do if you were the coach. What most of you don't appear to notice is that your "bravery" and tough talk is putting other people in harms way. I can't help but notice that all those brave talking men you quote who love their country so (Rush, Cheney, and O'Reilly) don't have a single day of uniform service between.

Posted by: left wing loon at December 01, 2009 03:28 PM (MqsJF)

And how many days in uniform have you tallied?

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at December 01, 2009 12:02 PM (Vu6sl)

83 Lefty,

The man you love so much is putting 30,000 more people into harms way, not just talking about it. In fact, the way he's doing things, he's putting the whole damn country in harms way. Not to mention our former allies. He's doing it for himself, not for this country. It's not love of country, it's HIS country. Follow him to your doom.

Posted by: Pawn at December 01, 2009 01:04 PM (eJXbB)

84 Lefty do you have a DD214 and what kind of discharge does said document show?

Posted by: NotAMolly at December 01, 2009 01:41 PM (Q/UAF)

85 Obama will likely lose this war for us- he clearly lacks the judgement, dedication, and principle to win such a labrilynthine conflict. He already was caught dozing while the Russians nabbed the Kyrgizstani air base SO vital to any plans for a US "surge" strategy in Afghanistan. - The clueless Obama (and foreign-policy "expert" Biden) were the most vocal opponents of the Petraeus Surge strategy in Iraq, with Slow Joe coming-up with a harebrained plan to surrender and split the country 3-ways. If America had followed their advice then, Iraq would be an Al Qaida Caliphate by now. Of course, the media is too preoccupied with articles on the Dear Leader's puppy-vetting process and how he likes to play basketball to call him on these serious strategic errors... Reality starting to hit hard now, though- I'm just sitting here hoping the Dear Leader's learning curve isn't as flat as I think it is.

Posted by: Reaganite Republican at December 01, 2009 03:23 PM (vdbJV)

86 Left Out,

Glad to be of service! Keep coming back!

Posted by: Armchair Quarterback at December 01, 2009 04:33 PM (eJXbB)

87 And how many days in uniform have you tallied?

Twenty two years total - though I must admit only 15 of that was active duty, the rest was reserve time (with the Seabees). And you?

Posted by: left wing loon at December 01, 2009 08:04 PM (Kcwqu)

88 Lefty do you have a DD214 and what kind of discharge does said document show? Yep, Honorable - You?

Posted by: left wing loon at December 01, 2009 08:05 PM (Kcwqu)

89 I'm impressed lefty, you didn't go for the usual lie that we hear. No SF, or SEALs this time. People in the service, non-pogue types anyway, generally consider dems to be the traitors and liars they are. Try again.

Posted by: lopan at December 01, 2009 08:40 PM (Ddmk1)

90 112 They play basketball on a field now? Nowonder I hate that friggin' game.
But it could also be because President Turdmonkey plays it, I'm not sure.

Posted by: Joseph Brown at December 02, 2009 06:18 AM (mumWu)

91 Twenty two years total - though I must admit only 15 of that was active duty, the rest was reserve time (with the Seabees).

I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928 at December 02, 2009 09:05 AM (PD1tk)

92 http://www.shox-footwear.com

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