December 08, 2009
— Ace Progress. We've gone from fact-checks of SNL parodies of Obama speeches to fact-checks of genuine Obama speeches.
In President Barack Obama's hands, the $700 billion financial rescue fund offers a bit of bookkeeping magic: an opportunity to pay down the deficit while also spending more—thereby adding to it.Under law, any paybacks to the bailout known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program must be used to reduce the deficit. But in an economic speech on Tuesday, the president sought to have it both ways. Increased repayments from banks to the Treasury will reduce the deficit all right, but it will give Congress the budgetary room to spend more—and the president encouraged just that.
"There are those who claim we have to choose between paying down our deficits on the one hand, and investing in job creation and economic growth on the other," Obama said. "But this is a false choice."To be sure, governments spend money during recessions to prime the economy, and they must be wary not to pull back too soon or to spend too long. But TARP returns are required by law to be used for deficit reduction. Yet if banks can help lower the deficit through one program, Congress can bump it up elsewhere.
What's more, even under Obama's rosier expectations the $700 billion TARP would still add $141 billion to the deficit.
It wasn't the president's only attempt at having his cake and eating it, too, in his speech.
Slublog, I think, posted that on Twitter; Mary Katharine Ham remarked, "Is he still doing that 'some say' thing?"
Oh yes. Oh yes oh yes oh yes.
AHFF Geoff sends this recap:
[Obama] takes aim at his opposition party, blasting Bush-era deficits created by "many of the same people who are now waxing political about fiscal responsibility while opposing our efforts to reduce deficits by getting health care costs under control." (11:48 a.m.)
Uh huh. Right, right. The, uh, health care bill will, er, save us money. Still putting the eggs in that basket, I see.
The last year's economic failure, Obama says in closing, has also been a political failure, brought about by succumbing to "the bitterness of partisanship, to the prosaic concerns of politics, to ever-quickening news cycles, and to endless campaigns focused on scoring points instead of meeting our common challenges." (11:49 a.m.)
Indeed, it has brought about succumbing to all that, as Obama should well know. He is Patient Zero.
So, to recap:
1. Obama has some budgetary magic beans. These can be spent multiple times, in multiple fashions. First, to pay down the deficit, then, to increase spending.
2. He also has some health-care magic beans. Once again, these beans can be used to increase spending on health care, and also magically reduce spending on health care.
3. "Some say" there is no such thing as magic beans and such people present to us the "false choice" of choosing between real beans and no beans at all.
4. There is some political partisanship afoot, and to reduce that political partisanship, Obama will blame his political opponents for the partisanship and not, say, his attempt to ram unpopular programs down the nation's throats, even at 55%+ levels of opposition.
5. Blame Bush.
That about cover it, President Einstein McDataSpock?
Thanks to Slublog and AHFF Geoff.
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Posted by: joncelli at December 08, 2009 11:23 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at December 08, 2009 11:25 AM (SqAkN)
This from the guy who freezes out news networks if they dare question the wisdom of policies which spring, fully-formed and flawless, from the Wondrous Historical Culmination of Barry's Brain.
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 08, 2009 11:26 AM (oACpK)
I'd say that for #5, blame the Republicans: " "the bitterness of partisanship, to the prosaic concerns of politics, ... and to endless campaigns focused on scoring points "
Posted by: Zimriel at December 08, 2009 11:26 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: Cack Finger at December 08, 2009 11:27 AM (LDQCY)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 08, 2009 11:28 AM (mGSN1)
Posted by: Jeff M at December 08, 2009 11:28 AM (8P3+x)
Seems he was someone important, but surely not as important as our dear leader.
Posted by: jcp at December 08, 2009 11:28 AM (DHNp4)
Posted by: bulwark at December 08, 2009 11:30 AM (jvrmc)
"There are those who claim we have to choose between paying down our deficits on the one hand, and investing in job creation and economic growth on the other," Obama said. "But this is a false choice."
I know it is a false choice but I say it anyway. We have something called the "money tree" stashed away in my backyard. It creates an infinite amount of money, jobs, and business opportunities. I keep it hidden so I can enrich myself, small business owners that refuse to hire people, tonsil stealing doctors, evil insurance companies (is there any other kind?), and special interests. Who is this mother f#cker to rain on my parade?
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at December 08, 2009 11:30 AM (SqAkN)
This is welcome news, and news made possible in part by the up to 1.6 million jobs that the Recovery Act has already created and saved, according to the Congressional Budget Office."
1.6 million jobs? Is Biden doing the math for him?
Posted by: TheQuietman at December 08, 2009 11:31 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: lowfibass at December 08, 2009 11:31 AM (T1ZAZ)
Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2009 11:31 AM (6Njk9)
Posted by: Zimriel at December 08, 2009 11:31 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: Barack Obama, Fraud(e) Czar at December 08, 2009 11:32 AM (50S+L)
I hope he also doesn't expect to get any more of these huge spending bills through congress. After next year he will not be able to get shit through congress so maybe that is what he is pushing for this year.
Hell even the Main sisters have given up on backing these commie policies. The press have lost all credibility with the public so they are starting to slide off the bandwagon now as well. Gibbsy has become a parody of Baghdad Bob. There isn't much left for him.
He has to be hiding something. Maybe Beck will tell us later today.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2009 11:33 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2009 11:34 AM (Scxfk)
Posted by: bulwark at December 08, 2009 11:35 AM (jvrmc)
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at December 08, 2009 11:36 AM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 11:36 AM (dQdrY)
It's time for Michelle to take Barack on Maury Povich to determine whether he is fucking someone else, other than the American people.
Posted by: Fish at December 08, 2009 11:36 AM (6mfq0)
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at December 08, 2009 11:36 AM (SqAkN)
Actually, it's President Einstein LINCOLN McDataSpock.
Because Lincoln freed the slaves, and Obama will free us from Global Warming, Evil Health Care, Wall Street Profits, Employment, Exhaling.... I'm sure he'll free us from something. Maybe even freedom.
Posted by: shibumi at December 08, 2009 11:37 AM (OKZrE)
Posted by: New Ending To "It's A Wonderful Life" at December 08, 2009 11:37 AM (Q41Zh)
Seriously, when does the shooting war start? This type of behavior is unsustainable. Either he's gonna crack, or the people are (at least the looney tunes elements of teh people).
Oh, and this line from the AP
It wasn't the president's only attempt at having his cake and eating it, too, in his speech.
Ouch. Et tu AP?
Posted by: moron # 2561567 at December 08, 2009 11:38 AM (p1s9n)
"Because Lincoln freed the slaves, and Obama will free us from Global Warming, Evil Health Care, Wall Street Profits, Employment, Exhaling.... I'm sure he'll free us from something. Maybe even freedom. "
I think the plan is to free us up from using wallets and get into the wheelbarrel business.
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at December 08, 2009 11:38 AM (SqAkN)
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.
-Albert Einstein
Posted by: Fish at December 08, 2009 11:39 AM (6mfq0)
/Bah Humbug, blame Bush for writing The Will, "in order to save capitalism, we have to stop capitalism."
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 11:40 AM (+CLh/)
Posted by: Wile E. Barry Pantscrease, Super-Genius at December 08, 2009 11:40 AM (oACpK)
Harry Reid, you are a piece of shit, cocksucking donkey raper. If it were 100 years in the past I would demand satisfaction.
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at December 08, 2009 11:40 AM (kKiD4)
"President Einstein McDataSpock"
I am so stealing that the next time someone brings Obama up in conversation.
Posted by: theBman at December 08, 2009 11:41 AM (/vN7m)
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2009 11:42 AM (6/BJr)
Posted by: Dan F at December 08, 2009 11:42 AM (nyFP6)
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 08, 2009 11:42 AM (pZEar)
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 08, 2009 11:43 AM (/Ft4q)
Posted by: National Association for the Advancement of Vulcan People (NAAVP) at December 08, 2009 11:44 AM (SPSOE)
If only out of their innate sense of self preservation
Posted by: moron # 2576135 at December 08, 2009 11:44 AM (p1s9n)
My DNA indicates that to be an untruth. This zebra isn't changing his stripes.
Posted by: Barack Obama, Fraud(e) Czar at December 08, 2009 11:44 AM (50S+L)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 08, 2009 11:44 AM (TrOK+)
lol
Posted by: WTFCI at December 08, 2009 11:45 AM (GtYrq)
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2009 11:45 AM (6/BJr)
Posted by: maddogg at December 08, 2009 11:45 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: joncelli at December 08, 2009 11:46 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mr Shout Out at December 08, 2009 11:46 AM (eu7/X)
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 08, 2009 11:47 AM (/Ft4q)
Look, we don't exist to bail out other Central Banks even if our public balance sheet says we are. Just trust us.
On that audit, just trust us too. Some say that if you don't we'll take the ring with us to Beijing.
Posted by: Ben Bernanke at December 08, 2009 11:48 AM (GtYrq)
DINGDINGDING!
winner.
What the hell do they think is going to happen in five -- ten years when teh country decides its not going to pay taxes to go straight to China any more? Start forcing people to work their land (forbidding them to leave their estates) like in teh late Roman Empire? Turn everyone into a tax collector? What? Really.
Posted by: moron # 34624353 at December 08, 2009 11:48 AM (p1s9n)
To prevent the economy from recuperating is Obama's necessity.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 11:49 AM (+CLh/)
Posted by: Olberdouche at December 08, 2009 11:50 AM (cBeTr)
The broader market is going to have to do it - though, obviously, China is a huge part of the debt market. The problem is that many are confused by the effects of monetary inflation and misinterpret it as growth and value. I think it all comes down to when the Fed loses control of interest rates - which probably sits around 9 months, by my estimate. Also, when Israel hits Iran, there's going to be a huge monetary shock that goes around the world, fed in good part by the intentional outrageous outrage being shown by most of the Israel-hating countries and governments (which now includes Washington).
and, by then, we are looking at debt of about 17 - 18 trillion dollars. This, of course, will equal annual interest payments of around 250 billion per year.
Posted by: Mallamutt at December 08, 2009 03:25 PM (V9SYy)
And that's assuming interest rates remain at 'unprecedented' low rates, while we are going to have to start moving further out on the bond curve. It's ugly. Add in the anti-growth policies and it has all the makings of "The End".
The big difference, here, is that the US dollar has no possible replacements. Unlike other countries, we are going to be absolutely stuck with the situation, with no chance of escape - not monetarily, anyway ... But so many people try an analogize our situation to countries that have had replaceable currencies - whistling past the graveyard. When the dollar goes, it will be an "unprecedented" situation.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 08, 2009 11:50 AM (A46hP)
Offer them California and see if they're dumb enough to take it.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 08, 2009 11:50 AM (TrOK+)
Posted by: Slow Joe at December 08, 2009 11:50 AM (50S+L)
Posted by: Todd at December 08, 2009 11:50 AM (LLOGQ)
The lunatics have taken over the asylum, that's for sure. These jokers scare the heck out of me - the folks who say that the leftists are intentionally crashing the economy must be right. I've given up trying to figure out where to invest in hope of a future return - at this point all I can think about is how to preserve what I have left along with the montly surplus. Should we buy silver in single-ounce bars/rounds so we can buy bread and lead when the time comes? Or should we start accounts in foreign countries and have our cash converted into their currencies as soon as we earn it?? How is a person to devise a sound strategy for wealth preservation in these times?
Posted by: Reactionary at December 08, 2009 11:52 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2009 03:33 PM (CDUiN)
He is that stupid.
"Profit and earnings ratios"
I rest my case.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 08, 2009 11:53 AM (A46hP)
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2009 11:53 AM (6/BJr)
Posted by: Those other 7 states at December 08, 2009 11:54 AM (TrOK+)
I'm going to go plant some amaranth and load ammo.
Posted by: moron # 5472435 at December 08, 2009 11:55 AM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Olberdouche
And Hillary is the smartest woman in the world.
And Michelle Obama is the most beautiful woman in the world.
So who's Tiger's latest hole in one?
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 11:55 AM (+CLh/)
Posted by: Tiger's Racist Cock at December 08, 2009 11:55 AM (SPSOE)
Arable, defensible land in a temperate climate, with off grid power. Everything else is just a bridge over temporary chaos.
Posted by: moron # 23576212 at December 08, 2009 11:57 AM (p1s9n)
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 11:57 AM (+CLh/)
It took Reid calling senators slave-owners to get the Republicans to show some life. Then they went back to sleep.
While the Democrats were in the minority, they were out there every day ripping on the Republicans, talking smack, making shit up, etc.
The Republicans on Prozac or something?
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 08, 2009 11:58 AM (z37MR)
Moody's is about to take care of that. They have been warning of it a lot lately.
When U.S. bonds are reduced to junk status it will come to a halt. Wiemar Republic here we come.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2009 11:59 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 03:55 PM (+CLh/)
I dunno but I bet you it's a white chick
Posted by: Olberdouche at December 08, 2009 11:59 AM (cBeTr)
Tell you what, Pete. I have some TARP money laying around. Can I buy that line? I'll even throw in some carbon credits. Gratis.
Posted by: Slow Joe at December 08, 2009 12:00 PM (50S+L)
Slip sliding away...yay,
You know, the nearer your destination, the more you're slip sliding away....
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 08, 2009 12:00 PM (/Ft4q)
DOPE HEADS taking their pay offs.
Just listen to Kay Bailey Hutchison.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 12:00 PM (+CLh/)
When Joe Wilson called that liar Obama a liar, it was on the news for 2 weeks. The Democrats demanded an apology!
Reid compares the Republicans to slave owners and there's nary a peep.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 08, 2009 12:00 PM (z37MR)
No problem, round eye. You dummies just don't know how to run things. We could have CA straightened up in months. Just a few thousand political 'trials' and everyone would fall in line. Bing, bang, boom. Questions?
Posted by: China at December 08, 2009 12:03 PM (u1pln)
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 04:01 PM (+CLh/)
she's no lady
Posted by: Hillary's Pants Suit at December 08, 2009 12:03 PM (cBeTr)
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 04:00 PM (+CLh/)
Kay wants to leave the senate early to run against Perry for governor. She has nothing but my contempt.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 12:04 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 08, 2009 12:04 PM (PQY7w)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at December 08, 2009 12:05 PM (yUybe)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 08, 2009 04:04 PM (PQY7w)
how about all of the above
Posted by: fartbubble at December 08, 2009 12:05 PM (cBeTr)
We could have CA straightened up in months. Just a few thousand political 'trials' and everyone would fall in line. Bing, bang, boom. Questions?
Yes. Where can I buy tickets to watch?
Posted by: MikeO at December 08, 2009 12:05 PM (Ce+tv)
Posted by: Stan at December 08, 2009 12:06 PM (1ZrHU)
I mean.. shit.. If Obambi can do it, I should be able to do it!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 08, 2009 12:06 PM (f9c2L)
Which explains succinctly why the non-existent Tea Party Party rates higher than the GOP. The GOP sees the gift horse, finds some plaque on a single molar, and concludes that selling the horse to the glue factory and then torching the cash is a wise plan.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 08, 2009 12:06 PM (50S+L)
Posted by: Old Sailor at December 08, 2009 12:07 PM (/Ft4q)
Some say that affirmative action promotes incompetence, but the truth is you really can advance unqualified people and still have the best and brightest in positions of leadership.
Posted by: Warden at December 08, 2009 12:08 PM (QoR4a)
I not only believe it with all my heart, but I beat off to every fact he utters
Posted by: Chris Matthews at December 08, 2009 12:08 PM (sYxEE)
I mean.. shit.. If Obambi can do it, I should be able to do it!
Try the fives instead, no one looks at them too close.
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at December 08, 2009 12:09 PM (kKiD4)
F them all. Here in Kalifornia we know we are f'd. Ahhhnold is Obama's puppet. If we go down, the rest of the nation will follow....I am moving to New Mexico........Texas.....Colorado......if they would have me
Posted by: Todd at December 08, 2009 12:10 PM (LLOGQ)
Obama is trying to overwhelm the country so that authoritarianism (brought to you by "your betters") is the only way out
I'm sure that IS the plan, on some level, whether he knows it or not. Problem is, we're not a country where authoritarianism will go over so well. Stupid as the schools have tried to make us, Americans (of amll creeds and hues) have a good deal of inherent intelligence left. The urban underclass isn't sizable enough, nor is the military obedient enough, to win.
See you all on teh other side, I hope.
Posted by: moron # 234613 at December 08, 2009 12:11 PM (p1s9n)
Which explains succinctly why the non-existent Tea Party Party rates higher than the GOP. The GOP sees the gift horse, finds some plaque on a single molar, and concludes that selling the horse to the glue factory and then torching the cash is a wise plan.
It's the height of courage to lie down and take your beatings. David Frum tells me so on Twitter, and he's never been wrong yet
Posted by: Allahpunter at December 08, 2009 12:11 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 12:12 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Todd at December 08, 2009 12:13 PM (LLOGQ)
He really is a one trick unicorn, isn't he?
Posted by: Warden at December 08, 2009 12:13 PM (QoR4a)
Leave Mr Data out of this, Ace. At least Data was "fully functional".
Posted by: andycanuck at December 08, 2009 12:13 PM (2qU2d)
As sickly as we are, the core economy of the US is still larger than most other economies, combined, and our technical know how remains unparalleled. I hoping we just get regional autonomous groups or sovereign states out of the whole collapse.
Posted by: moron # 23466513 at December 08, 2009 12:15 PM (p1s9n)
Michael Steele objects to Reid's "ignorance" and demands an apology.
Reid calls Steele's objection 'FEIGNED'.
Republicans only FEIGN. We'll see how right Reid is.
Of ALL Republicans, as Chairman of the RNC wondering how to define our "cause", it falls into Michael Steele's lap to lead the charge to ABOLISH PC! The Republican Party was organized around the platform to uphold the Constitution by abolishing slavery and polygamy, the greatest legal threats against the liberty of those populating America yet without voting rights. TODAY, PC is the greatest threat to all American citizens, to our military, and the greatest threat to our Constitution and our Constitutional Republic.
Dash the illegitimate founding that PC rests upon, and all corruption based upon PC falls with it. And our Constitution remains standing as the supreme law of the land.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 12:16 PM (+CLh/)
They are a racist organization and I hereby delink them and any mention of news from the AP will result in immediate banning.
Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at December 08, 2009 12:16 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Todd at December 08, 2009 04:13 PM (LLOGQ)
Texas. When the US falls, we are going to conquer Mexico and become a petro superpower. Get in early.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 12:17 PM (dQdrY)
See you all on teh other side, I hope.
I've done some thinking on this. There aren't enough reasons for me to make it through to the other side.
I've decided that, if SHTF, I will live large while the chaos reigns and spend some of that repression collected over four decades of keeping it between the lines.
Posted by: MikeO at December 08, 2009 12:19 PM (Ce+tv)
We've cut it off to the farmers of Central California. Baby steps, baby steps..
Posted by: EPA at December 08, 2009 12:20 PM (sYxEE)
Sedated Hutchison has been bought to divide the Texas Republicans in order to facilitate Obama's agenda.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 12:21 PM (+CLh/)
Texas. When the US falls, we are going to conquer Mexico and become a petro superpower. Get in early.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 04:17 PM (dQdrY)
only state in the country that could possibly go independent
Posted by: fartbubble at December 08, 2009 12:21 PM (cBeTr)
can you teach? You should just start advertising training courses to executives. Anything short of a multi-day stint at Front Site is going to be worth something and fill a niche. You just need to find a facility (like a local range or the woods somewhere) and get a syllabus.
Where you at?
Posted by: moron # 234615 at December 08, 2009 12:22 PM (p1s9n)
Is this another Steele failure? Can he muster the same disgust he showed on the DL Hughley Show towards his own party and channel it in the direction of Dems?
Posted by: ed at December 08, 2009 12:22 PM (Urhve)
I'm not holding my breath waiting for Michael Steele to push the issue. In fact, I wish he wouldn't. Because he'll just end up saying something stupid like, "yeah, we got some in our party who'd like to bring back slavery, but that doesn't give Senator Reid the right to smear all Republicans as pro-slavery."
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 08, 2009 12:22 PM (z37MR)
Our dear reader thought he was talking about Indonesia's economy. They only have ignorant people in Indonesia.
Posted by: bill-tb at December 08, 2009 12:22 PM (y+QfZ)
Like when California cut off Arizona's water from the Colorado, taking possession in order to "own" it.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 12:23 PM (+CLh/)
Only on the "Weeky Trunk" emails he sends out with the requests for donations.
Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2009 12:24 PM (sYxEE)
Interrupt an enemy while he's making a mistake? Are you high?
Posted by: Hu's the Communist at December 08, 2009 12:26 PM (l1Wlr)
that quote was just too perfect to be explained any other way
(you're still a douche for the home invasion thread, but if Michael Steele can forgive his detractors, then I can follow your--I mean his--- example)
Posted by: moron # 3546151 at December 08, 2009 12:26 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: EPA at December 08, 2009 04:20 PM (sYxEE)
Strange how the Central Valley is the red part of the state. It is the Colorado and the aqueduct that need cutting.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 12:27 PM (dQdrY)
Cavuto just asked Mitch McConnell if Reid's slave owner remark outraged him personally...and Mitch dodged the question. All incumbents need to be voted out. And cancel their gold plated government pensions.
Posted by: Flying Monkey at December 08, 2009 12:27 PM (Oxen1)
Investment in the future.
Job-training for the future.
In the new-and-improved, totalitarian-for-your-own-good America, the future is always certain. It's the past that's constantly changing.
Posted by: VJay at December 08, 2009 12:27 PM (gQ+XA)
I was in the White House kitchen having a late bite to eat while pulling an all nighter creating and saving jobs.
My eyes were a little bleary from lack of sleep and a bottle of Jack Daniels, but I might have used the "Magic Beans" in the burritos I fried up. Don't rat me out, ok guys?
Beans, beans, good for your TARP, the more you eat 'em, the more you...
Posted by: Joe the Biden at December 08, 2009 12:29 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Instinct at December 08, 2009 12:30 PM (TIbRS)
you're still a douche for the home invasion thread
Is that any way to talk to your party's chairman?
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 08, 2009 12:30 PM (z37MR)
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 04:21 PM (+CLh/)
That is my read. I'll give money and blood to defeat her.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 12:31 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: bman at December 08, 2009 12:32 PM (Gwbu8)
In the new-and-improved, totalitarian-for-your-own-good America, the future is always certain. It's the past that's constantly changing.
I like that. Very succinct way to describe where the Obamunists are coming from.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 08, 2009 12:32 PM (z37MR)
All we know is that he's called "The One"
Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at December 08, 2009 12:33 PM (sYxEE)
only state in the country that could possibly go independent
Posted by: fartbubble at December 08, 2009 04:21 PM (cBeTr)
We are taking Indiana with us. They are good people for the most part.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 12:33 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: moron # 234613 at December 08, 2009 04:11 PM (p1s9n)
Monetarily, it's "quantitative", but "qualitative easing" is an absolutely perfect description of the election of The Precedent. Excellent.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 08, 2009 12:36 PM (A46hP)
Cavuto just asked Mitch McConnell if Reid's slave owner remark outraged him personally...and Mitch dodged the question.
Of course. He doesn't give a shit about anything but his own ass.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 08, 2009 12:37 PM (z37MR)
but LO, the Steeler did say something, and something good at that:
“Sick and tired”
McCain’s not alone. GOP chair Michael Steele also denounced Reid’s comparison saying he was “sick and tired” of Democrats playing the race card when they don’t get their way.
“This has nothing to do with health care,” Steele said on Reid’s comments. “If you have a philosophical or political or business disagreement with this administration or Harry Reid on health care, it has nothing to do with the historic roots of slavery. So it was an ignorant comment. Harry needs to go to the well of the Senate, take it back and apologize for offending the sensibilities of the American people on something so important.”
Steele was appearing on CBS News this morning.
Posted by: moron # 1346512 at December 08, 2009 12:40 PM (p1s9n)
What the feck is with earflaps mcstalinacorn and this broke ass "false choice" crap?
I reject OBAMA as a false choice.
A completely idiotic choice too.
Posted by: buster mcdissenter at December 08, 2009 12:41 PM (zN9bC)
Not really, but I do actually know the difference; I thought and typed it wrong.
It's funnier the way I typed it, that's for sure.
Posted by: moron # 2346322 at December 08, 2009 12:42 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 08, 2009 04:37 PM (z37MR)
But, McConnell also gave a good defense of the Bush budgets (except that he included the last 2 years with a Dem Congress) by exlaining that they were of a different scale and were defense-oriented, which is the main point, that very few like to emphasize. The left always tries to equate un-Constitutional federal social programs and spending with Consitutional (and common sense) defense expenditures - and then, when they cite the 'great' things that government spending does, they invariably point out defense projects. I was very happy that McConnell was explicit about the distinction (though he left the Constitution out of it - the Constitution is uncool, as we know).
Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 08, 2009 12:42 PM (A46hP)
It's part of the dysfunction of Washington.
Not that it doesn't mean Obama's NOT a conspicuous failure.
Posted by: nickless at December 08, 2009 12:43 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: SGT Dan at December 08, 2009 12:44 PM (GgXZc)
Posted by: moron # 2346322 at December 08, 2009 04:42 PM (p1s9n)
As Shake would say in Semi-Tough, "It's what you did. You took semi-great pictures of trees."
I'm going to be using it, with proper attribution.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 08, 2009 12:45 PM (A46hP)
"Texas. When the US falls, we are going to conquer Mexico and become a petro superpower. Get in early."
I'll ruck up and be there fresh and ready.,.....and hungry, and tired, but I'll be there ready.....
Posted by: Todd at December 08, 2009 12:46 PM (LLOGQ)
'Tis the Season for giving, and last month's terrorism at Ft. Hood reminded the public to donate to the blood bank.
Note now, I doubt that radical reactionary behavior will achieve anything desirable. And I know that Perry doesn't want to face brutality against the little old lady sell out from D.C. coming home to ride on our backs up close and personal. Sedated Hutchison IS a feigned conservative. And I agree with you that her political move to become TX Governor, as THE Republican candidate, is the Obama Straw sent to break TX back. If it were up to Republicans, she'd lose. But as Rush pointed out nationally, TX primaries are open. Combined with all the illegals whom the Democrats registered to vote, Perry will have to deal with the very problem that the TX Legislature refused to correct last session and the session before. Without VOTER ID proving citizenship, we continue down the ACORN slope, each cycle further.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2009 12:53 PM (+CLh/)
Posted by: mcassill at December 08, 2009 12:54 PM (vmeGA)
When 'Bush Did It' kryptonite finally melts and even the lefties are sniggering, what's left?
Posted by: EBJ at December 08, 2009 12:56 PM (ocHBO)
Posted by: moron # 23523113 at December 08, 2009 01:02 PM (p1s9n)
You too, eh?
Posted by: Ace's #1 Fan at December 08, 2009 01:02 PM (PMGbu)
Posted by: Jim Treacher at December 08, 2009 01:06 PM (GrDz5)
Note now, I doubt that radical reactionary behavior will achieve anything desirable.
Man, everyone is worried about lone gunmen, aren't they? I would have said shoe leather, but it didn't sound all that original or interesting. I could get a blister, you never know.
I agree with all the rest.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 08, 2009 01:07 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Neo at December 08, 2009 01:09 PM (tE8FB)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 08, 2009 01:27 PM (T0NGe)
You want to know what's really screwing up this economy?
Try getting a loan for investing in real estate. Even if you are a AAA risk.
You can't get one.
If you're poor and promise not to pay it back, you can get money.
Posted by: drjohn at December 08, 2009 01:50 PM (HXRkG)
What's more, even under Obama's rosier expectations the $700 billion TARP would still add $141 billion to the deficit.
WTF?
TARP was $700 billion, but they say they only spent $500 billion and the banks paid back, I guess, $359 billion, leaving a $141 billion dollar deficit.Since where in debt only $141 billion instead of $341 billion we can use that "savings" to do other stuff.
Isn't this the same kind of thinking that leads individuals to make bad personal economic decisions, and that resulted in the foreclosure crisis.
Posted by: Ken at December 08, 2009 02:06 PM (Bs34i)
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Posted by: befuddled at December 08, 2009 06:38 PM (BByz2)
Posted by: befuddled at December 08, 2009 09:04 PM (BByz2)
TOTUS is just borrowing from the Underwear Gnomes' business plan:
1) Blame Bush
2) ??
3) Economic success
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