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December 15, 2009

One More Dem Decides To Retire
— Ace

Bart Gordon, a 12-term congressman representing Tennessee 6 (a porkchop shaped district wrapped around the east side of Nashville) calls it quits.

Monday's announcement followed similar decisions from fellow long-timers John Tanner of Tennessee, Brian Baird of Washington and Dennis Moore of Kansas. More retirements are expected following the holidays.
Party strategists describe the retirements as more of a trickle than a flood. Fifteen years ago, the party lost more than two dozen incumbents to retirement as the Newt Gingrich-led Republicans swept into power by gaining a total of 54 seats.

Maybe just a trickle. Maybe a coincidence and all. But Tenn-6 went for McCain by 25 points last year.

HT ace, thanks me.

Posted by: Ace at 11:38 AM | Comments (39)
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1 OT: I was watching the History Channel and kept on seeing an add for The People Speak. That sounded very weird. What do I find? Marxist academic Howard ZinnÂ’s capitalism-bashing. Michelle Malkins article about it here.
http://tinyurl.com/ycxkdyj

I guess Hollywood hates Hitler (and they should) but has no problem with a political force that killed much more people than Hitler ever dreamed of killing

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 15, 2009 12:19 PM (pU4D7)

I may or may not be in transit at this point, and not able to post. Or able.

I'm just getting some much needed rest. Later I'll step in for me, which is always a pleasure, and of course do the more substantive posts.

Posted by: ace in Texas at December 15, 2009 12:21 PM (WvXvd)

3 sorry to get off topic, but:

big favor i'd like from you morons, my gf's sister who doesn't like universal healthcare has to write a paper on why people support/don't support it. to my shock most people commenting (except 1 person) agree w/ me against it, i posted why i thought it would hurt us and posted links to source from, the guy who disagrees though just posted something directed at me that reads the following:

@ Luis - Soooooo we can either go your way and not pay our part for a universal health care system and people will will still die. Also people that ARE getting medical help without it being paid for, is CAUSING a large majority of our government debt. You don't believe you can get medical help on the gov't's dime? Go to the ER with a broken bone ... See Moreand I bet you walk out with a cast. OR, we can pay for the universal health care system and provide funding for it other than our future social security checks when we retire. ;-) Shit rolls down hill baby.

so how should i respond to that, i'm not necessarily sure what the hell he's talking about? and please don't make the reply too rude because it might be a good friend of my gf's sister

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 12:22 PM (xNw7B)

4 You won't notice the difference, we've written the laws while stewing in Rep. Gordon's cerebral juices. He added the spin

Posted by: Bart Gordon's intern at December 15, 2009 12:25 PM (sYxEE)

5 Do they still have that thing where they can keep their leftover campaign money when they retire? Because if so, I'm scared. They could be falling on their swords for Obamacare with a golden parachute.

(How's that for mixed metaphors, bi-otches?)

Posted by: Ace schizuki at December 15, 2009 12:28 PM (gdjuF)

6 Is it funny how many filthy rich people due not want to move to any country with that political thinking but wants us to becoming like them?

It would be great to make a couple mill a year and buy a nice house (not huge, just nice) and take the family on vacation a couple of places each year. But after that, I would think it was excessive. I have more respect for fellow racing drivers than any other occupations. The Victory Junction gang and Paul Newman (his food products) to just name a few.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 15, 2009 12:33 PM (pU4D7)

7 Mmmmmm, pork-chop-shaped district.

Posted by: Homer "Ace" Simpson at December 15, 2009 12:33 PM (xwRTg)

8 I guess Hollywood hates Hitler (and they should) but has no problem with a political force that killed much more people than Hitler ever dreamed of killing

Hitler was a man of the left. Read Liberal Fascism.

On-topic: What the hell is a Dem who has "served" for 24 years doing getting elected time after time in such a district? Maybe it was gerrymandered for him in 2000 and drifted right, but that much?

This reminds me: Support your local Republican for state assembly. The ones elected in 2010 will be the ones who will do redistricting. We need as many Republicans as we can get and as many conservatives as we can get among them.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 12:35 PM (T0NGe)

9 sorry. due = do.

My spelling still sucks some times, but I am working on it!

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 15, 2009 12:35 PM (pU4D7)

Ed Morrissey on HotAir (and savage at TheBlogmocracy are quoting The Weekly Standard's blog, "Source: Dems Threaten Nelson In Pursuit of 60" -

"[Senator] Nelson [D,Nebraska]'s demand that taxpayer money not be used to fund abortion has still not been met. According to a Senate aide, the White House is now threatening to put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list if Nelson doesn't fall into line."

and more: "Indeed, Offutt is the headquarters for US Strategic Command, the successor to Strategic Air Command, and not by accident. STRATCOM was located in the middle of the country for strategic reasons."

I may be a moron... but if this threat were carried through, wouldn't this throw our ability to handle strategic threats into chaos for a year, while we figured out where to put the next HQ? If I called in a threat like this, I'm pretty sure I'd get locked up for, uh, ever. Why's it okay for the President?

Posted by: Zimriel at December 15, 2009 12:36 PM (9Sbz+)

11 koopy just helped me w/ my problem at another post

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 12:37 PM (xNw7B)

12 10: yup. But Zero doesn't give a shit about that

Posted by: eddiebear at December 15, 2009 12:38 PM (wnU1W)

13 10 Because the current President doesn't really give a rat's rear end about our national security. Military bases are just pork projects to him.

Posted by: Ace Five at December 15, 2009 12:39 PM (OS2KR)

14 +25 McCain? Sounds like D- material.

Posted by: WTFCI at December 15, 2009 12:41 PM (GtYrq)

15 81 AmishDude Hitler was a man of the left. Read Liberal Fascism. You know that, I know that, any many more know that. But Hollywood and the MSM? It does not fit their policy. After all, neo-nazis are right wing extremists. Never mind the similarities to both.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 15, 2009 12:41 PM (pU4D7)

16 OT but could my fellow morons who still have a memory help out here? What was it they called the Greeks (I think Greeks, a long time ago) who thought it was better to "party" etc. in moderation because you actually got more enjoyment that way.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2009 12:42 PM (c459z)

"[Senator] Nelson [D,Nebraska]'s demand that taxpayer money not be used to fund abortion has still not been met. According to a Senate aide, the White House is now threatening to put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list if Nelson doesn't fall into line."

and more: "Indeed, Offutt is the headquarters for US Strategic Command, the successor to Strategic Air Command, and not by accident. STRATCOM was located in the middle of the country for strategic reasons."

One might even call such a threat an impeachable offense...

Posted by: Chainsaw Ace at December 15, 2009 12:43 PM (pLTLS)

18 but if this threat were carried through, wouldn't this throw our ability to handle strategic threats into chaos for a year, while we figured out where to put the next HQ?

Yup. It's win-win for Marxist/Alinskyites.

Because the current President doesn't really give a rat's rear end about our national security.

I believe he's been recorded as saying our military might is an "unfair advantage" and he aimed to "level the playing field." Ta-da!

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 15, 2009 12:43 PM (NtiET)

19 teej, Epicureans, I think...

Posted by: Zimriel at December 15, 2009 12:43 PM (9Sbz+)

20 How many Blue Dogs have trickled down The One's perfectly-creased pants leg in the last few weeks?

Posted by: stuiec at December 15, 2009 12:50 PM (7AOgy)

21 National Socialist German WorkersÂ’ Party - Nazi Germany
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)
The Communist Party of China (CPC)

Need I go on? The problem is people do not understand what they are. They are no different. They are just about making their children royalty by taking power.
This is just why America is so great. Equal rights under the law. Something even CJ does not know.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 15, 2009 12:52 PM (pU4D7)

22 so how should i respond to that, i'm not necessarily sure what the hell he's talking about? and please don't make the reply too rude because it might be a good friend of my gf's sister
Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 04:22 PM (xNw7B)

Here's how I'd address it off the cuff:

Soooooo we can either go your way and not pay our part for a universal health care system and people will will still die.

You're assuming we all want "universal health care." We are not guaranteed universal health care under the Constitution. Natural law does not obligate us to provide universal health care - or any health care at all - to anyone else. So I don't really see where I have a part to play. It's only "our part" to contribute in your socialist fantasy.

Also people that ARE getting medical help without it being paid for, is CAUSING a large majority of our government debt.

Prove it. A large majority? The bulk of our government debt does not come from bailing out the auto and banking industries, for providing entitlements like Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, for international lending and aid, providing for our defense? I want to see how the numbers you claim are attributable to uninsured health bills make up "the majority of our government debt."

You don't believe you can get medical help on the gov't's dime? Go to the ER with a broken bone ... See Moreand I bet you walk out with a cast. OR, we can pay for the universal health care system and provide funding for it other than our future social security checks when we retire. ;-) Shit rolls down hill baby.

Pure horse hockey that doesn't need a response.

This is where I'd start. Hope it helps.

Posted by: Principal Jazz at December 15, 2009 12:53 PM (hnq5i)

23 Tks Zim. That sounds familiar. Gives me a word to look up anyway. You the ant. You the ant.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2009 12:57 PM (c459z)

24 18 HeatherRadish "unfair advantage" Hey! Quit picking on Mark Donahue's book! Un-like the current crap in power, he actually HAD balls!

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 15, 2009 12:57 PM (pU4D7)

25 @ 22

thanks I already replied w/ help from koopy in another thread where i posted the same question and ask for help, the poor guy is by himself on the conversation as a universal healthcare supporter, it shocks me because these are young people against it, it proves to me how unpopular this thing has become

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 01:05 PM (xNw7B)

26 thanks everyone i posted my question/need for help in 3 posts and i'm grateful for the help from those who put their 2 cents in

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 01:07 PM (xNw7B)

27 Well YRM @ 3, in response to your query, this part is just not true:

Also people that ARE getting medical help without it being paid for, is CAUSING a large majority of our government debt.

A "large majority of our government debt" is not due to people skipping out on medical bills. It is due to the accumulation of annual deficits, that are from federal government spending on all sorts of boondoggles and wealth transfer schemes as well as on national defense and roads and the like. Actually the national debt doesn't even include unfunded liabilities like Medicare and Social Security.

If you want to get snarky, you can always add in "but I thought Bush's tax cuts for the rich caused our debts???"

You have to get to the underlying reason of why this guy supports national health care. I will bet $10 it's because he hates insurance companies and wants to see them driven out of business.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2009 01:08 PM (F+U5/)

28 Okay YRM I didn't read your responses until just now, sorry for the duplicate effort, sorry for contributing to the O/T-ness

Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2009 01:09 PM (F+U5/)

29 For my part: From Campaign Spot, it looks like this guy, Bart Gordon, was sitting on a pile of cash too - over $1 million - when his competitors barely had about 1% of that amount. The DNCC must be really upset he's retiring because now they will have to spend real money to try to defend that seat.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 15, 2009 01:11 PM (F+U5/)

30 Bart Gordon sees defeat looming and decides to skiddaddle out while the gettin's not as expensive as a losing re-election campaign. Belt tightening back home.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 15, 2009 01:24 PM (+CLh/)

31 Dems are seeing the writing on the wall here in TN6. Four or five well-known and respected Republicans have thrown their hats into the ring, and only two Dems, neither of them have name recognition.

One Repub, Dianne Black, is the state senator from my district. She's much along the lines of Marsha Blackburn. The Rutherford County Repub party chair also threw her hat in. Both very sharp women.

Posted by: Ace!! at December 15, 2009 01:28 PM (92zkk)

32 Sock off, dangit.

Posted by: Intrepid (not Ace!!) at December 15, 2009 01:28 PM (92zkk)

33 B+

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 01:53 PM (xNw7B)

34 These guys are all retiring because that frees them up to vote FOR the healthcare bill.

They vote for it. They don't worry about re-election.

I wonder what they're getting to retire?

Posted by: Thea at December 15, 2009 03:00 PM (/3dGX)

35 Funny thing is Nashville is pretty liberal, and there is a ring of counties that surround it, and they are all conservative.
IÂ’m in GordonÂ’s district. Moved here 4 years ago, and itÂ’s pretty conservative area. IÂ’ve always wondered how he keep winning for so long. I was told that he leaned to the center-right often on many issues, thatÂ’s how he keep his seat. But the last 2 years or so, he went to the left hard. HeÂ’s taking it on the chops and knows that heÂ’ll be replaced

Posted by: frank rizzo at December 15, 2009 03:20 PM (CUGxW)

36 I need a balm.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 05:52 PM (PD1tk)

37 They fear me.

Posted by: Electorate Ban Hammer of Wrath at December 15, 2009 05:54 PM (ZKDbV)

38 Hi Teej, As pointed out you're looking for Epicureanism, but your characterization is highly simplified. Very Little of Epicurus' writings survive. The most famous existing work on the subject is Lucretius' "On the Nature of Things", a short book, readily available, understandable to an ordinary reader. It was written a couple hundred years after Epicurus' death. Cicero's "On the Nature of the Gods" also has a fair amount of information, and is also readily available, and suitable for the intelligent reader who is not versed in philosophy.

Posted by: jbarntt at December 15, 2009 06:32 PM (Ynr0B)

39 They are simply the foundations you laid for your personal growth Â– and opportunities to add another gemstone to your treasure box.

Posted by: Personal Growth at February 02, 2011 04:38 AM (CAR7Q)

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