December 15, 2009

Panic at the Disco: Andrew Sullivan's Ghost-Bloggers Out Him
— Ace

Andrew Sullivan once declared himself in the media the proprietor of "the most popular one-man blog on the internet."

One man?

Really?

His ghost-blogger -- that's right; it's come to this: ghost-blogging -- lets out the oh-so-sad truth:

As always, it a pleasure to step in while Andrew gets some much needed rest. Guest-blogging is not all that different than my day-to-day activities on the Dish – 24 of the 50 posts currently on the front page were written by me. All the substantive posts are Andrew's work, but it's my and Chris's job to read through the blogosphere and pick out the choicest bits. Andrew edits, approves, and spins what we find, but the illusion of an all-reading blogger is maintained by employing two extra sets of eyes.

Substantive posts = Trig Trutherism and anti-semitic conspiracy theories.

And the posts he is referring to are those printed before Sullivan's hiatus -- when Sullivan was supposedly posting all this material himself.

Now Andrew Sullivan is an excitable type feller, and he attracts an excitable type audience. So this revelation caused some great upset with his stupid readers, See, Andrew Sullivan whines endlessly that his blog's lapses into lunacy must be excused and overlooked, because his blog (unlike, um, no other blogs) is intensely "personal" and utterly "honest."

So his readers are a bit butthurt to discover half the blog isn't personal to Sullivan at all, and all of it is dishonest.

So here's the whining and back-pedaling. A mention that all is not forgiven among those once famously cadged into paying for Sullivan's supposed $100,000 bandwidth and site design costs:

Life As Part Of Sully's Brain

by Patrick Appel

A reader writes:


To learn that nearly half the posts on Andrew's blog are not his posts proper (but admittedly prepared under his aegis) is somewhat disheartening. I think the blog owes it to the readers and its own high standards to start putting bylines on all posts.

We tried bylines once and it made the blog read funny. Almost all the posts I write are naked links or excerpts, which makes Andrew a weather-vane in the gale of the larger debate.

I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now and know intuitively what he interested in and what to bring to his attention. If Chris and I were forced to byline the posts we write under Andrew's supervision, we would have to own those opinions and draw contrasts with Andrew, as we do when he takes vacations. Bylines would fracture the solitary voice of the blog.

Bylines would reveal the solitary voice of the blog is not the solitary voice of the blog. Is that what he means by "read funny"?

I've got bylines here; do they "read funny"? They don't read at all, half the time; a lot of the time, people don't even notice who is writing whose posts.

This is, simply, a fiction, a lie. Bylines don't make blogs read funny anymore than author's bylines in collections of fiction make the collection "read funny" -- unless by "read funny" it is meant that the editor who put together the collection wishes to take credit for items not his own by obscuring the truth authorship.

And -- "stewed in Sullivan's cerebral juices"? Did you get your shots first, dude? You are aware, I trust, that he's the most notorious schizophrenic on the internet.
Some readers chime in. First a suck-up:

I would have to disagree with the other reader and say that I enjoy and agree with the approach that the Daily Dish generally takes with regards to by-lines. In some respect it akin to that of The Economist or to politicians who both have a bevy of 'anonymous' writers making contributions to their daily workings. And in many respects the Dish is an institution rather than the more typical blog format.

An institution? Certainly needing of institutionalization, I'll confess.


I would like to be sure whose thoughts are being expressed in a given post. What you are sure Andrew would write if he wrote it, is not good enough for me.

And another:

So, forced to choose between honesty and a unitary voice, you/Andrew/whomever the hell I've just emailed chose...dishonesty.

And another makes this good point:

If the intent is a solitary voice and you don't use your own bylines - why bother to do it when he's out of town [i.e., come clean only when Sullivan's on vacation-- why] ? I mean either it's important or it isn't, the voice is solitary or it isn't. I'm going to guess that the reason is that he absolutely isn't participating for a week and you're being very upfront about that. (Which is good). But ....well if you can be trusted to express for him when he's there, why can't you express for him in that solitary voice when he isn't?

Because like a lot of people who never had any particular talent, Sullivan was endlessly promoted far beyond his abilities, and now that he is a "name," he intends to sell the only thing of any value he has -- that name -- and simply pay some hacks intern-level wages to ghost-blog for him while he conducts in-depth examinations of Sarah Palin's upper fallopian tubes.

Is this worth a post? Probably not. But I'm going to be traveling today (Open Blog Tuesday!) And, I'm just curious -- somehow, "I" might wind up posting here some today anyway, and managing something close to a "solitary voice" for the first time in years.

Edit: A reader wrote to me and said "Queerbait? Really?" See, I referred to his readers as "stupid queerbait readers."

Without getting into the long explanation I gave him -- at least too much -- I agree, and agreed, really, as I was writing it. I intended the schoolground taunt sense of the word without the literal meaning meant (not sure what the literal meaning is, but you know). Do "queerbait" and "gaywad" really mean queer or gay? Kinda-sorta, yeah. Even if I wasn't really intending to put a lot of gay weight on that putdown, I can't sit here and pretend that meaning was unknown to me and I can't for the life of me fathom how anyone got an anti-gay vibe off the post.

In this context, using that word definitely invoked the gay meaning. If it were another blog, not run by a gay dude, I probably could have gotten away with it. Here, not so much, especially with the other gay-baiting stuff (Panic at the Disco, "butthurt") reinforcing that meaning.

I've taken out "queerbait." So one of the three is gone. I used it, and that was wrong (in this context), and I confess error. I've taken it out because really I had second thoughts about it even as I was writing it, and now, having third thoughts, I finally edit out what shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Other defenses:

1) I wrote this very late the night before, five minutes before shut-eye. It posted at 9 in the morning or so, but that's just because I told the "under-bloggers" to take it out of draft and publish it in the morning.

2) I didn't write it at all; it was one of those "under-bloggers" who perpetually stew in my cerebral juices. Not saying who -- it wouldn't be fair to the guilty party to out them like that --- but like, it was Laura.

(No not really; it was me.)

Posted by: Ace at 04:53 AM | Comments (178)
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1 Ha Ha Ha.

Posted by: In Exile at December 15, 2009 04:55 AM (3H+fX)

2

Ace,

What has this guy done to you?  You posting about this AIDs infested dickhead like anyone cares.

Ignore the asshole.

 

Posted by: Kemp at December 15, 2009 04:56 AM (2+9Yx)

3 So, Andi is a potemkin blogger. Just great.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 15, 2009 04:57 AM (+deq6)

4 They don't use bylines because they don't want their names on the crazy.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 15, 2009 04:57 AM (ZJ/un)

5 And what are you doing up this early anyway?

Posted by: Kemp at December 15, 2009 04:57 AM (2+9Yx)

6 Not entirely surprising, as the blog is a business. I wonder if this kind of thing explains LGF's flip over the past year? Change of staff?

Posted by: Kozaburo at December 15, 2009 04:58 AM (al60v)

7 "queerbait?"

Really?  Are you slightly worried that Patterico will label you homophobic, or Anglophobic, or AIDS-phobic, or whatever his -phobic schtick is today?

Posted by: CroakerNorge at December 15, 2009 04:59 AM (w9iIl)

8 Yeah what are you doing up? It is not like you have a real job.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 15, 2009 04:59 AM (SqAkN)

9 Ace, you flying out to Vegas on a scouting trip?

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2009 05:00 AM (Scxfk)

10 So let me get this straight (no offense): Andi's Posts: 100% Batshit Insane Ghostbloggers posts: everything else I guess that he needs all the spare time to investigate a private citizen's uterus (and not in the...uhm...good-ish way)

Posted by: In Exile at December 15, 2009 05:00 AM (3H+fX)

11 If I had a sweet high paying blogging job I would be asleep right now on a big pile of money.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 15, 2009 05:01 AM (SqAkN)

12 Ace has a new job in Vegas. Prostitution ain't just for chicks no more.

Posted by: In Exile at December 15, 2009 05:01 AM (3H+fX)

13 I have never once read Andrew Sullivan.  But I finally saw a picture of him the other day and involuntarily blurted out, "Twerp."

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 15, 2009 05:04 AM (/Ft4q)

14 8:04 a.m. and sully is still queer...

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at December 15, 2009 05:04 AM (WVBjj)

15 If I had a sweet high paying blogging job I would be asleep right now on a big pile of money.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 15, 2009 09:01 AM (SqAkN)

if I had a big pile of money, I would see how many $100 bills my 9mm could go through

Posted by: fartbubble at December 15, 2009 05:05 AM (cBeTr)

16

You know Sullivan's cerebral juices?

 

You're soaking in them.

 

(At least I hope those are cerebral juices...)

Posted by: Madge the Manicurist at December 15, 2009 05:05 AM (WDySP)

17 What really concerns me is that there are at least two other people who share his opinions and views. (He is paying them, but I'm sure it is not enough to sell ones soul. -- What kind of visa is he on again?)

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2009 05:05 AM (Scxfk)

18 Who is more irrelavent and intellectually dishonest, Andrew Sullivan or Charles Johnson?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 15, 2009 05:05 AM (SqAkN)

19 I gave up on Andi long before he moved to the Atlantic so I have no idea what he sounds like today, ghosted or not.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2009 05:07 AM (BoFBr)

20

Now Andrew Sullivan is an excitable type feller, and he attracts an excitable type audience. So this revelation caused some great upset with his stupid queerbait readers,

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Didn't we just have a thousand ++ post about using such language? Is "queerbait" funny? I thought that was the litmus test? 

I do read the author of the post. I got in the habit on HA to differentiate between right and not so right. One should always know whose agenda one is being exposed to (and I can tell by tone anyway).

To the ghostwriters: Boo!

Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2009 05:09 AM (L76NN)

21 "I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now"

[insert punchline]

Posted by: RJ at December 15, 2009 05:10 AM (ADbI4)

22

#6  I wonder if this kind of thing explains LGF's flip over the past year? Change of staff?

It's certainly a saner explanation than the one provided by Charles himself.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2009 05:11 AM (BoFBr)

23 At least he admitted the fake. Give him a B+ for honesty.

Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at December 15, 2009 05:12 AM (lV4o0)

24 And thanks to Dave in Texas for this post.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 15, 2009 05:13 AM (ZGhSv)

25

Andrew edits, approves, and spins what we find,

Is that the same thing as telling a white lie?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 15, 2009 05:13 AM (JKGfQ)

26 I look forward to news of Andrew dispensed through this wonderful blog.  Now, I wonder if I have been looking forward to news of other people all along?  Or beagles, or inner voices?  The Atlantic has to be one screwed up place.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at December 15, 2009 05:14 AM (7Gs5S)

27 What? Read the what??

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 15, 2009 05:15 AM (ZGhSv)

28 Andrew- A+

Posted by: BHO at December 15, 2009 05:15 AM (EL+OC)

29

What is hilarious about this is the fact that there are people out there that were looking forward to hearing Andrew's opinion and dissapointed when they found out it was someone else.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 15, 2009 05:15 AM (SqAkN)

30 I post too, but that pecker seems to get all the glory.

Posted by: left nad at December 15, 2009 05:16 AM (t/GDA)

31 "I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now"

He's a flank steak?

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 15, 2009 05:16 AM (/Ft4q)

32 "What has this guy done to you?  You posting about this AIDs infested dickhead like anyone cares."

He's a big-name blogger, Kemp. He's a household name to people who follow politics. It's as relevant to write about Sully as it is to write about Olbermann or Chris Matthews.

And he's a traitor to all conservatives after he did an ideological-180 immediately after Dubya announced his support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as one man and one woman.

Posted by: RJ at December 15, 2009 05:17 AM (ADbI4)

33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yPJ1wNqBb8

Ghostwriterrrrrrrrr! Word!

Posted by: Tom in Korea at December 15, 2009 05:17 AM (+gX1+)

34 Ahem. No jokes about Sullivan's cerebral juices; his head is not full of ... man stuff.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at December 15, 2009 05:18 AM (outBY)

35 his stupid queerbait readers

Uhm.  Ace?  I have bone-smuggling friends who read this blog.  Couldja clean it up a bit?  I mean, if it's uniquely funny beyond the homophobia, that's one thing.  But if it's just a gratuitous slap at butt pirates, that's completely another.

Posted by: FUBAR at December 15, 2009 05:20 AM (1fanL)

36 It's a blog, not a clown car

Posted by: Truman North (channelling lesbians) at December 15, 2009 05:22 AM (e8YaH)

37 #7

Patterico is probably the next to follow in the Sully/CJ path, especially after the whole bizzare episode with him going after RSM, and then after Jeff Goldstein called him on his specious argument Patterico's best comback despite being couched in so much crap so many different ways was "I wasn't calling him a racist!".

I have no idea what hapened to Patterico since back in 04 when I read his site. He's slipping, must be living out in CA and being a lawyer.

Posted by: Gaff at December 15, 2009 05:23 AM (CMpbs)

38 Next time I want to hear the musings of a marinated brain I'll get a hold of Otis Campbell.

Posted by: Pocono Joe at December 15, 2009 05:25 AM (nAenh)

39 So, this makes Sully kind of the opposite of Greenwalds?

Posted by: Dan Collins at December 15, 2009 05:25 AM (Zl7/A)

40 "Whoa, whoa, whoa. Didn't we just have a thousand ++ post about using such language? Is "queerbait" funny? I thought that was the litmus test?"

I was thinking the same thing. Seems somewhat hypocritical.

Posted by: RJ at December 15, 2009 05:26 AM (ADbI4)

41 Oh FFS Gabe stop whining. Nobody cares about your International Law of Bylines Treaty bullshit.

Posted by: Entropy at December 15, 2009 05:26 AM (IsLT6)

42 If there's one thing on Earth I would never want to do it's marinating in Andi's juices.  Yikes !

BTW, that's such an incredibly repulsive and repellent thought, the dude writing this almost has to be Andi's boyfriend.  Who the fuck else would say something like that?

Posted by: Yikes again ! at December 15, 2009 05:26 AM (hwaWv)

43 Question: last week we were told not to offend blacks and gays with jokes...  but this week we get this "great upset with his stupid queerbait readers" which is not in the form of a joke.  We are allowed to be offensive so long as there is no pretense of "joke" to it?

Posted by: myrenovations at December 15, 2009 05:26 AM (gzKcQ)

44

Uhm.  Ace?  I have bone-smuggling friends

I see what you did there, newsletter, jib, approve, etc.  Turdburglar.

Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 05:27 AM (e8YaH)

45 Really want to burn the image out of my mind of anybody marinating in Sullivan's juices, wherever said juices came from... ick...

Posted by: GuyfromNH at December 15, 2009 05:28 AM (GWXuo)

46 "Uhm.  Ace?  I have bone-smuggling friends who read this blog.  Couldja clean it up a bit?  I mean, if it's uniquely funny beyond the homophobia, that's one thing.  But if it's just a gratuitous slap at butt pirates, that's completely another."

LOL...

Posted by: RJ at December 15, 2009 05:28 AM (ADbI4)

47 Sullivan's blog a virtual sock-puppet

John Cole hardest hit.

Posted by: Cam Winston at December 15, 2009 05:29 AM (mHiW8)

48 This one-man blog stuff is easy.

Posted by: Ace-particus at December 15, 2009 05:30 AM (ItSLQ)

49

I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now

That phrase is disturbing in all ten or eleven dimensions of string theory.

I may never again be able to marinate food on my own, much less purchase it from a stranger.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2009 05:32 AM (B+qrE)

50 Sullivan = Solid B+

Posted by: Bryan at December 15, 2009 05:32 AM (j0OLD)

51 I'll bet this is coming out because these guys are getting tired of Sully strutting around like a celebrity, taking credit for their work.  They're probably trying to force his hand into giving them bylines.

Posted by: Steve L. at December 15, 2009 05:34 AM (Gkhxf)

52 This is what the left does, and Sullivan is a leftist.  They lie.  They always lie.  And they have to lie because if they were honest about what they do, what they want and what their goals are everyone would reject them.

My guess is that Sullivan's 'helpers' do more than just write for Sullivan.

"Don't you come yet or I'll fire you."

Posted by: Jack at December 15, 2009 05:36 AM (bvDV5)

53 Sullivan's cerebral juices?  The suds just last and last.

Posted by: Jack at December 15, 2009 05:38 AM (bvDV5)

54 Steve, if you were writing, say, the science fiction stories that went next to the pictures of tranny-cow porn on those adult websites that I swear I've never been to, would you want a byline?

Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 05:38 AM (e8YaH)

55 Sully gets a B+ for honesty.

Posted by: Good Lt. at December 15, 2009 05:38 AM (jH17H)

56 So these ghostwriters:  Are their heads full of semen, too?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at December 15, 2009 05:42 AM (5aa4z)

57

 "Uhm.  Ace?  I have bone-smuggling friends who read this blog.  Couldja clean it up a bit?  I mean, if it's uniquely funny beyond the homophobia, that's one thing.  But if it's just a gratuitous slap at butt pirates, that's completely another."

I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now

 is a leftist.  They lie.  They always lie.  And they have to lie because if they were honest about what they do, what they want and what their goals are everyone would reject them.

Gee, in just three posts we have last weekend's entire argument summed up.

Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2009 05:43 AM (L76NN)

58 Marinating in Andrew's cerebral juices isn't so terrible. It's his method of epidural-like delivery of said juices that is a tad discomfiting.

Posted by: Usful Ijit at December 15, 2009 05:44 AM (28286)

59 No wonder he sounds like a schizophrenic: there are three of him.

Posted by: ImNotASchizophrenicNeitherAmI at December 15, 2009 05:44 AM (Y19tP)

60 Incidentally, the thing about marinating in his own juices is taken from a crack about Marcel Proust--"a hermaphroditic toad marinating in his own juice."

Posted by: ImNotASchizophrenicButIPlayOneOnTV at December 15, 2009 05:46 AM (Y19tP)

61 Does this mean that Andrew is not the Daily Dish's real birth mother? Just asking the tough questions.

Posted by: Usful Ijit at December 15, 2009 05:47 AM (28286)

62
Isn't it strange how it seems like a 'coming out'?

It's like the ghost-blogger is tired of being in Andrew's closet and wants to reveal his true self to the world. I say this because I'm always interested in the psychology behind the homosexual brain.


Posted by: President Informercial at December 15, 2009 05:48 AM (z37MR)

63

re: patterico and Jeff Goldstein - weird fight, I can't really understand it.  It's like 2 guys you know who seem to get along and then get drunk and start slugging it out over who won the 1949 north swansea rugby tournament or something.  I'd have thought they would both have sobered up by now.

But I never could get into Goldstein - I always have had the suspicion that he meant to name his blog "Protean Wisdom" but didn't know how to spell it, and that just bugs me whenever I look at it.  So I don't. 

Posted by: jooee....mentum! at December 15, 2009 05:49 AM (T1boi)

64
I'm assuming the ghost bloggers are also homosexuals. Of course they are.

Posted by: President Informercial at December 15, 2009 05:49 AM (z37MR)

65 I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now

I picture that as a dark viscous fluid porridged with globulus clots.

Nasty.

Posted by: toby928 at December 15, 2009 05:51 AM (PD1tk)

66 62 Ahh, and so we draw the connection to pederasty and the safe school czar. We are not the bourgeoisie after all...

Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2009 05:51 AM (L76NN)

67

Ghostwriter: "Uhm, Andi, we just landed a man on Mars, her's what I wrote".

Andi: Screw it, go with the Astronomy chart of Palins' fertility cycle....I put the last 17 hours into it..and 4 dime bags".

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 15, 2009 05:52 AM (dUR2C)

68 After we solve the mystery of the homosexual brain could someone explain, aside from the obvious, why all the anger?

Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2009 05:54 AM (L76NN)

69 I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices

I'm traumatized


oh and the whole queerbait comment, confuses the hell out of me

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Didn't we just have a thousand ++ post about using such language? Is "queerbait" funny? I thought that was the litmus test?

word

Posted by: pajama momma at December 15, 2009 05:54 AM (275r1)

70 Where's the flaming beagle?

Posted by: Johnny I, unseeded funnyman at December 15, 2009 05:54 AM (HO+pd)

71

Bloggin' is hard work.

'Specially when you're gettin' buggered at the same time

Posted by: Intern # 2 at December 15, 2009 05:54 AM (dUR2C)

72

Relax. We are here to explain what is and is not funny.

Posted by: Banhammer Thread and Son of Banhammer Thread at December 15, 2009 05:57 AM (hKyl0)

73 Queerbait-gate! It just goes to show how out of touch our leaders in Washington are with the moron public. Moroonses!

Posted by: Johnny I, unseeded funnyman at December 15, 2009 05:57 AM (xjOV/)

74

What is hilarious about this is the fact that there are people out there that were looking forward to hearing Andrew's opinion and dissapointed when they found out it was someone else.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 15, 2009 09:15 AM (SqAkN)

The cult of online personality.  Can there be a bigger disconnect from reality?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2009 05:57 AM (2Uu3I)

75 Can we henceforth refer to Sully's anonymous co-bloggers as 'The Beagles?'

Posted by: nickless at December 15, 2009 05:58 AM (MMC8r)

76 I've been ghostblogging Instapundit for years. Suckers!

Posted by: Johnny I, unseeded funnyman at December 15, 2009 05:59 AM (HO+pd)

77

I know there's a recession going on and all, but are these aides (can I call them that) that hard up for work?  And are stewing in Andi juices part of their job description?

Heh - he said "hard up".

Posted by: sixpckr at December 15, 2009 06:00 AM (Aw7Iv)

78
I'm thinking more like...

Andrew And The Semi-Colons

Posted by: President Informercial at December 15, 2009 06:00 AM (z37MR)

79 Relax. We are here to explain what is and is not funny.

Butt it hurts

is that bad if I spelled it with two "t"'s?

Posted by: pajama momma at December 15, 2009 06:02 AM (275r1)

80 Ok, I take credit for the not actually funny gay stuff.  Ace wouldn't have written those.  I haven't been basting, brining and marinating in Ace's gray matter poupon as often as I'd like of late.  I apologize on Ace's behalf, as I know deeply he would want himself to.

Posted by: Ghostwriter in Ace's basement at December 15, 2009 06:02 AM (0aCXd)

81 77 Yes. Is going to have peanut butter drives? (Not a gay joke, just a beagle under the desk joke)

Posted by: Johnny I, unseeded funnyman at December 15, 2009 06:03 AM (HO+pd)

82 Can we henceforth refer to Sully's anonymous co-bloggers as 'The Beagles?'

Nice.  So let it be written.

Posted by: toby928: channeling yul brynner at December 15, 2009 06:04 AM (PD1tk)

83 somewhat disheartening

Sounds pretty close to heartache to me.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 15, 2009 06:06 AM (KgWin)

84 Bylines make the blog read funny. 

Think about that statement.  Little italicized names under the title of a post make it "read funny."  Like anyone notices. 

Think, also, about the fact that supposedly literate and clever people believe the phrase "read funny" is actually English.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2009 06:07 AM (BUxMT)

85

So today it would be funny to say Andrew Sullivan has aides?

Posted by: MostlyRight at December 15, 2009 06:07 AM (0aCXd)

86 So today it would be funny to say Andrew Sullivan has aides?

I'm choking here.  People passing by the office look concerned.

Posted by: toby928 at December 15, 2009 06:08 AM (PD1tk)

87 Must...not....make.....fa* jokes...must.....resist...........

Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2009 06:09 AM (x69md)

88 We tried bylines once and it made the blog read funny

We agree. Bylines totally make the "news" read funny.

Posted by: The Newspapers at December 15, 2009 06:11 AM (4jZ56)

89 We tried bylines once and it made the blog read funny.

Actually I think it's Sully's psuedo expertise in gynecology that make the blog read funny.  Has the guy ever seen a vagina in real life?

Posted by: taylork at December 15, 2009 06:12 AM (4jZ56)

90 Andi gets an "A".  His ghost bloggers: B+

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 06:13 AM (T0NGe)

91 "Solitary Voice" sounds suspiciously close to "lunatic on a soapbox raving in Harvard Square".

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 15, 2009 06:13 AM (KgWin)

92

"read funny"

Funny as in odd? Funny as in amusing? Funny as in confirmed bachalor?

Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2009 06:13 AM (L76NN)

93 "Andrew edits, approves, and spins what we find," ...and adds the demented POV that normal human beings can't manage.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan's Vagina at December 15, 2009 06:14 AM (7M8kd)

94 actually, I agree with him totally because that's how we do our blog. However, we don't periodically out the fact certain writers write certain posts. The idea is the blog is bigger than any one voice, so as to not make the blogger bigger than the idea of an individual post, to make the author anonymous. It's like an Andy Brand. Hints from Heloise and Dear Abby did the same thing. I don't see where it detracts from anyone's appreciation of the thing.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at December 15, 2009 06:15 AM (kgwdA)

95 the demented POV

"value added commentary"

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 15, 2009 06:15 AM (KgWin)

96 This is the funniest post/comment thread I have read in at least five hours-- LOL

Posted by: Johnny I, unseeded funnyman at December 15, 2009 06:17 AM (HO+pd)

97

"read funny"

What do ya mean, funny? Let me understand this cause, I don't know maybe it's me, I'm a little wee-weed up maybe, but I'm funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh... I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

No, no, I don't know... you said it. How do I know? You said I'm funny. How am I funny, what is so funny about me? Tell me. Tell me what's funny!

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 06:19 AM (T0NGe)

98

By paying attention to Sullivan, we enable him.

I didn't know he existed until 2004. I'd be happy to return to that state.

Posted by: I.P. Address at December 15, 2009 06:19 AM (LFLoV)

99 I am Andrew Sullivan!

Posted by: Sparticus at December 15, 2009 06:19 AM (T0NGe)

100 I've got bylines here; do they "read funny"? They don't read at all, half the time; a lot of the time, people don't even notice who is writing whose posts.

After awhile you learn people's style, and can figure out the authorship while reading. For instance, Ace is the likely author of a post if it is a repost of something Drew wrote about earlier, that Malor gave an update on, that Dave in Texas wrote a rebuttal on, that Russ in Winterset wrote a rebuttal to the rebuttal.

For instance.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 15, 2009 06:20 AM (1hM1d)

101 "stupid queerbait readers"

Now go out back and ban yourself!

Posted by: Holdfast at December 15, 2009 06:20 AM (Gzb30)

102 So this is sort of the inverse of a Gleen Greenwad ?

Posted by: Holdfast at December 15, 2009 06:20 AM (Gzb30)

103 Looks like there's an all out assault on Andy's castle in Upper Fallopia by his little minions/serfs.  But why they'd want a by-line on that ridiculous blog of fantasy is beyond me.

Posted by: Intrepid at December 15, 2009 06:21 AM (92zkk)

104 By paying attention to Sullivan, we enable him.
I didn't know he existed until 2004. I'd be happy to return to that state.

To stop that monster, 1-2-3
Here's a fresh new way that's trouble free
It's got Paul Anka's guarantee
(guarantee void in Tennessee)
Just don't look
Just don't look

Posted by: Paul Anka at December 15, 2009 06:22 AM (D/RCG)

105 The big question is this:  Do any of Ace's cobloggers marinate in his cerebral juices?  And is there a course of treatment for that included in Obamacare?

Posted by: Intrepid at December 15, 2009 06:23 AM (92zkk)

106 Hints from Heloise and Dear Abby did the same thing.

Tell the little elderly housewives that.  They didn't know.  Especially Dear Abby, that would have devastated her readers if it were widely known.  Whose advice are you getting?

Andrew's blog is -- especially now -- a highly personal one.  If he's just a brand, then it doesn't really mean anything.

Hell, Bill Ayers could have written his blog posts.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 06:24 AM (T0NGe)

107 "Solitary Voice" sounds suspiciously close to "lunatic on a soapbox raving in Harvard Square".


Hey now, don't be going there.  Just because that's what I closely resemble doesn't mean you need to insinuate that I would offer my views in such low-brow locales.

Posted by: Andi Sullivan, OB/GYN to the stars at December 15, 2009 06:27 AM (OS2KR)

108 103 HEH: Captain Retweet. Oops--supposed to go on Instapundit.

Posted by: Johnny I, unseeded funnyman at December 15, 2009 06:32 AM (HO+pd)

109

#32

RJ,

I know all of what you say and still say, who gives a shit?  He is a traitor, so one more reason to ignore the dickhead.  The more Ace writes about him the more important he thinks he is.  Are we writing about Billy Bobs blog in Kansas? No so why waste time on a pompous ghey guy that works out?

Posted by: Kemp at December 15, 2009 06:38 AM (qvT/A)

110

Who ya gonna call?

GHOST BLOGGERS!

Posted by: davidt at December 15, 2009 06:41 AM (gr1ua)

111 queerbait - queerbait - queerbait - queerbait

Yup - none of us non-wussified male types offended by that word 'round these parts... PC is over - its perfectly fine to call a sick, twisted pole sucking queer a queer nowadays.

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at December 15, 2009 06:42 AM (WVBjj)

112 I'm old fashioned.  I think nagging should be between one man and one woman.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 06:47 AM (T0NGe)

113

Hey, Gabe you're not "Ghost Blogging" over there are you?

Just axing.

Posted by: Kemp at December 15, 2009 06:48 AM (qvT/A)

114 Radley Balko has been calling out Patterico on his authoritarian bullshit for years now. If he's joined the accusing-enemies-of-racism gig, maybe he should invite Michael Nifong to coblog with him.

Posted by: Zimriel at December 15, 2009 06:49 AM (9Sbz+)

115

Ace, how do we know this is really you??...and who will be you when you are traveling??

My world has just been turned upside down by the intertubes

Posted by: beedubya at December 15, 2009 06:50 AM (R9giA)

116

80
I'm thinking more like...

Andrew And The Semi-Colons

WINNER!

Posted by: Kemp at December 15, 2009 06:50 AM (qvT/A)

117

Joy 114, apparently you don't read this site very often.

(P.S. I didn't know you were supposed to twist the pole while you suck it, but I there I must defer to your experience.)

Posted by: Zimriel at December 15, 2009 06:51 AM (9Sbz+)

118 who is andrew sullivan?

Posted by: Laptop-battery's mom at December 15, 2009 06:51 AM (tbYJ7)

119

"Queerbait"  and  "butthurt"   are professional terms of art; not to be used by the unwashed masses who know little of comedy.

"Rump ranger" on the other hand is much more egalitarian.

Posted by: Joe at December 15, 2009 06:56 AM (YwBI6)

120 stupid queerbait readers stupid queerbait readers stupid queerbait readers

Hey now.  Don't make me have to straighten you all out.

Posted by: BanHammer III: The Search for Spock at December 15, 2009 06:57 AM (OS2KR)

121 "I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now" Is this confirmation that Excitable Andy has hydrocephalus? Because that would explain a lot. Cordially...

Posted by: Rick at December 15, 2009 07:00 AM (Aauui)

122

#125

Banhammer III, that was good!

Pixy can't take another 3,000+ thread the mice will die.

Posted by: Kemp at December 15, 2009 07:06 AM (qvT/A)

123 I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices for a few years now

It's like amniotic fluid for the mentally deranged. 

Posted by: Peaches at December 15, 2009 07:07 AM (9Wv2j)

124 BanHammer III: The Search for Spock

That's in pre-production.  We're still at BanHammer II: The Wrath of Gabe.

Posted by: toby928 at December 15, 2009 07:09 AM (PD1tk)

125 #100 You tryin' to be a Wiseguy or sumthin'?

Posted by: Gulermo at December 15, 2009 07:12 AM (f+EPI)

126 re: 124 "butt pirate" is funnier, IMHO

Posted by: ms. docweasel at December 15, 2009 07:15 AM (kgwdA)

127 131 re: 124 "butt pirate" is funnier, IMHO

Is there a "Talk like a butt pirate" day?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 07:22 AM (T0NGe)

128 "I've marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices. . ." In later years, it was noted that this was as close as Ace would ever come to posting a bukake scene on his blog.

Posted by: Wind Rider at December 15, 2009 07:23 AM (NDYjN)

129 Is there a "Talk like a butt pirate" day?


Oh you guyth...

Posted by: Andi Sullivan's girlfriend at December 15, 2009 07:25 AM (OS2KR)

130 So, if you fart on talk like a butt pirate day, and nobody heras it, are you doing it right or not?

Posted by: Wind Rider at December 15, 2009 07:27 AM (NDYjN)

131 87 So today it would be funny to say Andrew Sullivan has aides?


B+

Posted by: Percopius at December 15, 2009 07:48 AM (V0nbk)

132 I wonder if this is widespread at the Atlantic - it'd sure explain some aspects of McArdle's posting.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 15, 2009 07:57 AM (p05LM)

133

So where did Excitable Andy pick up two other HIV-positive, AIDS-demented lunatics to help him co-blog?

Never mind, he probably had some ex-boyfriends on speed dial.

 

Posted by: SGT Dan at December 15, 2009 08:06 AM (GgXZc)

134 "stewed in Sullivan's cerebral juices"? Joke #2?

Posted by: cheshirecat at December 15, 2009 08:26 AM (ZHPG2)

135 Maybe Andrew doesn't want bylines so that he can "hide the decline" in posts he actually writes...

Posted by: Dan at December 15, 2009 08:34 AM (Wvt+E)

136 The biggest scumbag move by far I've ever seen in the blogosphere is that fund raising stunt he pulled.

Posted by: andrew at December 15, 2009 08:38 AM (RmE69)

137

Andrew Sullivan has aides

My boss was passing by... now I've got more work to do.  Thanks, MostlyRight.  B+.

Posted by: Max at December 15, 2009 08:59 AM (EeTGS)

138 So all this time Sullivan was saying that Sarah Palin was lying about giving birth to her baby, someone else was giving birth to his articles? Project much?

Posted by: 29Victor at December 15, 2009 09:11 AM (AfPnb)

139 Presumably, the Andy's little helpers are professional writers who appear on his blog and write in his style as paid employees. Now really, if you got a sweet money gig writing for a blog as deranged as Andy's Dish, would you want to put your name on the entries you wrote on his behalf. I wouldn't do it. Fuck Sullivan, but the people working for him who are paid to write crazy-ass horseshit deserve better than to be forced to attach their own names to it. They want to have other jobs in the future, why compromise that.

Posted by: Ronzoni at December 15, 2009 09:22 AM (XiQgY)

140 Hmmmm.

Sorry but I'm ghost-commenting right now for Memomachine while he's ghost-eating breakfast and, quite possibly, later on taking a ghost-dump.

Thank you for your patience.  And if you're impatient about all this, then fuck off.

Posted by: memomachine at December 15, 2009 09:25 AM (/+tPT)

141 If I knew Ace was going to post this early in the morning, I would have waited in line all night for the opportunity to read it. Is there anyone on the left with any integrity? Crickets.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 15, 2009 09:35 AM (mGSN1)

142 I'd like to announce that I'll be ghost Tigering for the next 6 months. Thank yew.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 15, 2009 09:35 AM (1hM1d)

143

Christopher Hitchens is actually Andrew Sullivan in drag. He do make one ugly broad, don't he?

Posted by: Perspective at December 15, 2009 09:47 AM (Cta0m)

144 You are aware, I trust, that he's the most notorious schizophrenic on the internet.

Wasn't going full-on Sybil enough? Jesus, just what do I have to do to take the title?

Posted by: Charles Johnson at December 15, 2009 09:48 AM (9fjyr)

145 This post needs the Sullivan eye rolling with the frantic beagle graphic.

Posted by: Have Blue at December 15, 2009 09:50 AM (mV+es)

146 And having written that last I refresh the main page and find the new top post.

Posted by: Have Blue at December 15, 2009 09:51 AM (mV+es)

147 I've been wondering for quite some time what happened to Andi's cerebral juices.  They certainly haven't been residing in his head.

Posted by: marmo at December 15, 2009 09:55 AM (wpuKF)

148 Maybe Barney Frank is Andrew Sullivan in drag, too, ya think? The lisp is meant to throw us off, but it ain't fool'n me. They're so insideous and diabolical, those loopy fruits.

Posted by: Perspective at December 15, 2009 09:57 AM (Cta0m)

149 Re:  queerbait.
On further reflection, it occurs to me that calling someone a queerbait is NOT the same as calling them a queer.  He's not saying Andi's readers are queers, he's saying that queers find the readers attractive.  The readers don't (necessarily) smuggle bones, they merely make the bone smugglers want to smuggle bones.  The readers don't pirate butts, they merely entice the pirates to pirate the butts.  Think jailbait.  The jailbait isn't in jail, or derserving of incarceration.  It merely entices men into desiring to do things that would land them in the pokey big house.
So I think I (and some of you other queerbait Morons) owe Ace an apology.

Posted by: FUBAR at December 15, 2009 09:59 AM (1fanL)

150 Cerebral juices? From which head?

Posted by: SDN at December 15, 2009 10:19 AM (z/oaU)

151 Seems like you need a couple of ghostbusters in Aisle Andy.

Posted by: eatingnarcissus at December 15, 2009 10:32 AM (DPhAg)

152 Steve L.: "I'll bet this is coming out because these guys are getting tired of Sully strutting around like a celebrity, taking credit for their work.  They're probably trying to force his hand into giving them bylines."

That makes sense. In an age of funemployent in the revered industry that is contemporary Lefty media, justifying one's existence becomes a bit more important.

Also, consider the legacy if you, as anonymous lackey, need to find better work and all you have to show for it is, "Yes, I'm a contributor to Sullivan's blog, the one where there is no documented attribution." That new potential employer (ha!) is going to think, "So you're complicit in Sullivan's excitable dementia, and I cannot even evaluate to what degree? And you want me to risk my reputation on you?" Rational people who aim to make a profit can only say, "I give your presentation a B+. We'll get in touch. Does your parking need validation?"

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 15, 2009 10:45 AM (swuwV)

153

114  Arrr! "Pole-sucking" just isn't funny.  Nothin' but gratutious anti-homosexual slurritude. 

Now, "pole-smoking" is funny.

Posted by: Joe Camel at December 15, 2009 10:50 AM (3G4di)

154 63 Does this mean that Andrew is not the Daily Dish's real birth mother? Just asking the tough questions. Posted by: Usful Ijit at December 15, 2009 09:47 AM

THREAD WINNER!

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2009 10:54 AM (sYxEE)

155 "So today it would be funny to say Andrew Sullivan has aides?"

HAHA!  Andrew was telling us the big secret all along!  It's the biggest head fake since The Prisoner!

No. 6:  "Who is No. 1?"

No. 2:  "You are, No. 6."

Posted by: Kensington at December 15, 2009 11:27 AM (BlBnA)

156 As of 6:30 EST, all post on Sully's blog are are by-lined.

Posted by: gwrox at December 15, 2009 02:32 PM (no376)

157 As of 6:30 EST, all post on Sully's blog are are by-lined.

Posted by: gwrox at December 15, 2009 06:32 PM (no376)


Heh.  Can't stand to be made fun of.  Keep mocking guys.  You know he's reading, the fucking narcissist.   I wanna see a defensive-hauter post up by Sully himself whining about "it's FIXED leeemeee ALONE!"  hahahaha

Posted by: aces wild at December 15, 2009 04:54 PM (b0sdZ)

158 I can see the ads now:

Blogger wanted.  Tall, dark and handsome.  Must be able to ferment in my cerebral juices.  And other duties as assigned.   

Posted by: subrot0 at December 15, 2009 04:59 PM (8phX+)

159 "marinated in Sullivan's cerebral juices"

I could've gone the rest of my life without that mental image.

Posted by: Achillea at December 15, 2009 05:48 PM (G1Jgb)

160 Based on this shocking evidence, I hereby assert that Andrew's blog is NOT in fact actually Andrew's...

...but rather...

...Bristol Palin's!

Posted by: g at December 15, 2009 06:37 PM (YcNaQ)

161 Andrew Hilton, Perez Hilton - same league.

Posted by: ZZMike at December 15, 2009 08:16 PM (GMeSz)

162 154 - FUBAR might have a point....
Definition:  a person who attracts the interest of gay people; a person who has gay mannerisms but claims to be straight

you'a culpa

goin' to the slammer (the musical)

Posted by: On-line Dicktionary at December 16, 2009 01:44 AM (8iTbj)

163 Ah, potheads are notoriously lazy.

Posted by: Mr. Muckle at December 16, 2009 07:18 AM (pSoT7)

164 Repost defense of Ace:
Re:  queerbait.
On further reflection, it occurs to me that calling someone a queerbait is NOT the same as calling them a queer.  He's not saying Andi's readers are queers, he's saying that queers find the readers attractive.  The readers don't (necessarily) smuggle bones, they merely make the bone smugglers want to smuggle bones.  The readers don't pirate butts, they merely entice the pirates to pirate the butts.  Think jailbait.  The jailbait isn't in jail, or derserving of incarceration.  It merely entices men into desiring to do things that would land them in the pokey big house.
So I think I (and some of you other queerbait Morons) owe Ace an apology.

Posted by: FUBAR at December 16, 2009 10:55 AM (1fanL)

165 Ooops, sorry, wrong thread.

Posted by: FUBAR at December 16, 2009 10:55 AM (1fanL)

166 But is he outsourcing his brain to two Americans or has he outsourced jobs as he himself is not a citizen? Does this count as jobs saved or created? It is vital the judge who hears his immigration request be informed his abilities are not unique, and may be mind control inducing, along with his pot bust.

Posted by: FeFe at December 16, 2009 02:21 PM (7GTP7)

167 Big deal! The entire University of Tennessee is merely a front organization all of whose "staff" and "students" are ghost-writers and researchers for Glenn Reynolds.

Posted by: Dan at December 16, 2009 11:01 PM (CEi4Z)

168 I understand that the AP put 11 factcheckers on his blog and all of them ended up unemployed.

Posted by: Neo at December 17, 2009 09:01 AM (tE8FB)

169

........which makes Andrew a weather-vane in the gale of the larger debate.

The tree with the deepest of roots can weather any storm, and a structure built on the stongest of rock foundations will stand forever. 

Any piece of trash can go where the wind blows.

Posted by: KLH at December 18, 2009 07:19 AM (occeM)

170 Andrew: consume dung and expire.

Posted by: Barefoot Doctor at December 19, 2009 07:53 PM (W7u3B)

171 With the publication of damaging e-mails from a climate research center in Britain, the radical environmental movement appears to face a tipping point. The revelation of appalling actions by so-called climate change experts allows the American public to finally understand the concerns so many of us have articulated on this issue.

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