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March 05, 2014

Party of Cowards: Eight Democrats Vote Against Obama's Controversial Civil Rights Division Nominee, Mumia Abu-Jamal's Former Lawyer
— Ace

A party of cowards.

Six of the key seven there make sense: Casey, Donnelly, Heitkamp, Manchin, Pryor, and Walsh are all either red- or purple-staters and therefore leery of cuddling up to a guy whoÂ’s known for having defended Mumia Abu-Jamal. Coons is the outlier. HeÂ’s from deep-blue Delaware and doesnÂ’t face reelection for another two years....
Another surprise is some of the red-state Democrats who did vote yes, including/especially red-staters who are up in November. What on earth were Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan, whoÂ’s rocking a 33 percent approval rating these days in North Carolina, thinking?

There is a mystery here, as Allah explains. One Democrat apparently flipped from "yes" to "no" at the last minute. Joey Bidez was standing by to cast a tie-breaking 51st vote to put this nominee over the top-- but a Democrat decided to duck and vote "no" to avoid the spectacle of that.

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1 Thanks for the nood.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 05, 2014 10:21 AM (ojnk6)

Another surprise is some of the red-state Democrats who did vote yes, including/especially red-staters who are up in November. What on earth were Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan, whoÂ’s rocking a 33 percent approval rating these days in North Carolina, thinking?

They know it is over already. Or, the vote rigging is assured.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 10:21 AM (eoeps)

Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:21 AM (4df7R)

4 Hagan already seems like yesterday's news in NC. Since 2010 we've had a huge switch in blue-to-red sentiment, as evidenced by state and civic level elections.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:22 AM (ZshNr)

5 Coons is the outlier. HeÂ’s from deep-blue Delaware and doesnÂ’t face reelection for another two years... --- Mumia is still local-ish news to Delaware and a very big deal to cops.

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 10:22 AM (GSIDW)

6 "What on earth were Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan, whoÂ’s rocking a 33 percent approval rating these days in North Carolina, thinking?"

I think they just announced their retirement...

Posted by: PastorJamesMG at March 05, 2014 10:22 AM (YzjpH)

What on earth were Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan, whoÂ’s rocking a 33 percent approval rating these days in North Carolina, thinking?

Questioning a leftwing woman's reason for doing something asinine and illogical?

#WARONWOMEN!!!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:22 AM (4df7R)

8 They know it is over already. Or, the vote rigging is assured. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 02:21 PM (eoeps) Setting up for K Street. There's always a secondary market for has-been senators.

Posted by: AMDG at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (t7OO0)

9 Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters. - You forgot babykillers.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (Fwztl)

10 Chickenshits. Glad to see Landrieu put herself in jeopardy yet again. Idiot probably didn't even know that this guy defended a cop killer.

Does anyone think Barry isn't going to pardon that POS now, btw?

And before anyone can say "Federal vs. State", let me just ask who will stop him?

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (/29Nl)

11 What on earth were Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan, whoÂ’s rocking a 33 percent approval rating these days in North Carolina, thinking?

Don't want to be called racists?

Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (ZKzrr)

12 -
You forgot babykillers.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 05, 2014 02:23 PM (Fwztl)

*forehead smack* Doh! You're so right.

Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, wife beaters and baby killers.

That's Obama's Amurrca!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:24 AM (4df7R)

13 "Civil Rights Division" Sounds about right.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 10:24 AM (Hy7dS)

14 I think they just announced their retirement...
Posted by: PastorJamesMG at March 05, 2014 02:22 PM
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Pumping up their resumes.

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2014 10:24 AM (JBggj)

15 Chalk one up for the good guys, "The American Public" That nominee is a disgusting P.O.S. I'm surprised yet happy he wasn't confirmed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 05, 2014 10:24 AM (HVff2)

16 It was either WZ or The Blaze that had a story about how the fine fellow also thinks the government should force businesses to hire felons.

Posted by: Adam at March 05, 2014 10:25 AM (Aif/5)

17 "...but a Democrat decided to duck and vote "no" to avoid the spectacle of that." Was that a throw out line? Because I believe that to be true.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 05, 2014 10:25 AM (A98Xu)

18 Democrats: They're against cop killers in election years.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 05, 2014 10:25 AM (Fwztl)

19 Obama calls this a "travesty." The vote, not the nomination. Eff him

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 05, 2014 10:25 AM (cViiz)

20 Cowards? Well, Obama is the face of their party. OK, then.

Posted by: Roy at March 05, 2014 10:25 AM (VndSC)

21 Kay Hagan? She's thinking she doesn't want to piss off half of her 33% approval rating, all the Black voters. The NAACP has gone full radical in NC, with this new leader. Moral Mondays and all. I am sure he called and told her how to vote and she's a chicken shit little rich bitch anyway. I email Tillis about her vote. You can count on an ad using it to come later.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:25 AM (0FSuD)

22 Adegbile is in favor of not letting businesses refuse to hire ex-felons. It was in one of his answers to Congress.

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (GSIDW)

23 DOJ is chock full of the worst race baiters and "social justice" freaks they can find.See J. Christian Adam's pieces about it at PJM.Really,it is as bad as you would expect with people like Holder,Jarrett and Obama in charge.A major purge is going to be required.Of course,the purge will need to be in every agency,not just DOJ.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (zqvg6)

24 Don't want to be called racists?

Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 02:23 PM (ZKzrr)

Or maybe they want to make NC and LA look like attractive relocation spots for released felons?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (4df7R)

25 If Obama would want to do it, which I doubt because it accrues no benefit to him, he'd probably do some sort of public appeal to the Governor of PA, seat a panel, have "deep discussions about race and reconciliation" and then the Governor would issue the pardon.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (ZshNr)

Questioning a leftwing woman's reason for doing something asinine and illogical?

#WARONWOMEN!!!

I can change my mind if I want to. Fight the Patriarchy!!!

Posted by: Count de Monet's feminine side at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (BAS5M)

27 10: Gov. Corbett, or the state police or whoever would have to actually open the bastard's cell.

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (Mc4Q1)

28 9 You forgot babykillers.Posted by: WalrusRex at March 05, 2014 02:23 PM (Fwztl)
You'll never win an election with that attitude.

Posted by: You know who who at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (HFap2)

29 Adegbile's parentage is just about Ogabe's. No wonder that sick f**k in the Oval Office wanted him so bad: they have the effervescence mixed with the melanin.
All that soda bread in their youths.

Posted by: The Bard of Baltimore's Bloody Blade at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (1/4XQ)

30 "Since 2010 we've had a huge switch in blue-to-red sentiment, as evidenced by state and civic level elections." Considering the GOP's majority in the House shrank and Barky was re-elected in 2012, I think your observation could use a little re-thinking.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 05, 2014 10:27 AM (gBnkX)

31 Coons? Don't forget the Wilmington DL folks watch Philly TV. He knows how radioactive this guy was.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:27 AM (0FSuD)

32 Love it. Keep throwing wrenches in the gears of the Obama machine. Metaphorically adopt the strategy of the early 20th-century "Black Cat" anarchist saboteurs who secretively destroyed machinery to hurt their capitalist employers. They couldn't stop capitalism, but they could slow it down. In our case, we cant's top the Obama juggernaut toe ruinate America, but we can slow it down with metaphorical/political monkey-wrenching. 2017 can't come soon enough! Until then: hurl the wrenches!

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 10:27 AM (mizYg)

33 Apparently, getting your ass kicked in the November election tips the balance over being called a racist. Where is that Dem playbook again?

Posted by: Roy at March 05, 2014 10:27 AM (VndSC)

34 Nip - I emailed Hagan my insistence that she vote against the nomination. I did not expect it to have any impact, but I assume that it occupied 15 or 20 seconds of her staff's time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:27 AM (aDwsi)

35 Okay, seriously, can someone please tell me how to pronounce Adegbileai;adfn;kj!'s name? I keep reading it and the letters get jumbled up in my head and it comes out sounding like "I Dig Bile."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:28 AM (4df7R)

36 Landrieu and Hagan need every single black voter to win. They are both basically writing off the swingable middle. It is a hail mary play. They are also hoping the GOP makes this an issue so they can blame their defeat on racism.

Posted by: Roy at March 05, 2014 10:28 AM (z6Elp)

37 Kay Hagan, goodbye.

Posted by: NCKate at March 05, 2014 10:28 AM (y7PFk)

38 Hey...you think Ace got his veil on?

Posted by: Gay Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 10:28 AM (6Nj7A)

39 Its not that he defended Mumia, everyone has a right to a defense. Its HOW and WHY he defended Mumia. He joined the case because it was a political hot button issue and pushed the line that it was racism and government oppression, condemning the entire justice system as a defense.
In other words, he's a one of those hard radical "civil rights" cranks that does not deserve any position of power. If you can get Democrats to agree, then he's really out in left field.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 10:28 AM (zfY+H)

40 A temporary moment of sanity in an otherwise insane political class.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (zF6Iw)

41 Does anyone recommend a good resource on Mumia? I'm interested to know more about the case, but it's so politicized that I have to wade through yards of leftist crap to find any information.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (P7Wsr)

42 It's pronounced Sharr-Day.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (Hy7dS)

43 Hey tangonine! In the last thread you mentioned that you do not support Webb for the NRA slot. I just browsed his blog and he puts down in bullet points, his positions and opinions.

A Snap Shot Perspective of My Views on Gun Ownership & The 2nd Amendment

The 2nd Amendment is inherent in AmericaÂ’s cultural DNALimiting magazine capacity is impracticalPunishing law abiding gun owners is not the solutionI believe everyone who owns a gun should attend a basic firearms & range safety qualifications course and that these courses should be standardizedThe NRA should be like PADI or NAUI and encourage gun ranges to only accept NRA basic qualified shooters on the range.Few people outside of America understand how important firearms ownership is to AmericansBackground checks are a good idea but should take minutes, not daysOften gun laws are made by people who donÂ’t use, own, or understand firearmsMass shootings have to be dealt with head-on or America will face more gun restrictions and erosion of 2nd Amendment rights.NRA training needs to be brought up to date.Legislation on increasing the prevention of severely mentally ill folks (e.g. paranoid schizophrenia)from gaining access to firearms seems logical. Increase the early warning signsDogs/handlers at schools and colleges are better than armed guards, in my opinion. Dogs are an incredible resource to use in these situationsGuns arenÂ’t the problem, mental illness is the problem. ItÂ’s like punishing responsible automobile owners (which kill more people annually) because of drunk drivers killing innocent people on the roadI believe we should be able to concealed-carry and open-carry where practical (e.g., not on an elementary school campus or an airplane)Guns are guns and people should be able to own and obtain a permit to own everything, short of an anti-tank weapon or WMD, if theyÂ’re properly trained/certifiedThe NRA should take a strong leadership position when it comes to legislation affecting ownership pro and con, not just a Â“supporterÂ” of legislation. The perception from the left is that the NRA is an uncompromising organizationI think the current NRA Executive VP Wayne LaPierre, could do more to a lot more to improve how the NRA is viewed by the rest of America, especially the youth.If elected to the board I would be one of 76, but I would do my best to make sure we hold the elected leaders accountable, and work on ways to promote and engage the responsible youth in this country. They are the future, and you cannot ignore the decline in youth firearms participation and membership.I believe the 2nd Amendment is a right we should keep and hold dear

I'm not seeing anything radical enough to raise red flags, unless he's said something different somewhere else.

Taken from:

http://tinyurl.com/omvxthy

Posted by: EC at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (GQ8sn)

44 Fuck.....

Posted by: EC at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (GQ8sn)

45 The NAACP has gone full radical in NC, with this new leader. Moral Mondays and all. I am sure he called and told her how to vote and she's a chicken shit little rich bitch anyway.
=====
The NAACP is all that's left of a disheartened Dem Party. Look at the trouble they've had with the state party chairmanship. Mystery firing, followed by the selection of Ben Chavis.

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (JBggj)

46 Damn, the comments here are fast and furious. When I started writing what eventually became comment #32, there were only TWO comments on the brand-new thread. In the few minutes it took me to type the comment, it was up to 32. And by the time this comment appears, lord knows we'll be in the 50s already. Insanity!

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (mizYg)

47 NC voted for Obama in 2008, Romney in 2012. Since 2010 we've had a GOP Governor and GOP-majority Assembly for the first time in a Century.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (ZshNr)

48 Maybe Hagan and Landrieu think it's too late now and their true natures are coming out.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (RD7QR)

49 The Democrats don't hate racism. They don't object to racism on principle. They only object to racism that hurts groups that reliably vote Democrat.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (ZPrif)

50 OK, 46 -- ALMOST the 50s.

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (mizYg)

51 When I saw the name, I was like, WTH is a Nigerian doing supporting this kind of crap. So I just googled him, and from his pic,t looks like his mom was not a Nigerian. Just checked wiki. Yup, raised by his single mother. Explains things. (Not the single motherhood, the fact that I can't see the child of 2 Nigerians having that resume. Maybe a grandchild, but not a child.) Obama is really scraping the bottom of the barrel, isn't he?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (r+7wo)

52 "Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, wife beaters and baby killers. " That's their new bumper sticker for 2016.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 05, 2014 10:29 AM (gOoFi)

Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters.

You forgot domestic terrorists.

And traitors.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 05, 2014 10:30 AM (zF6Iw)

54 See -- all I had to do was wait another 20 seconds to hit the 50s.

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 10:30 AM (mizYg)

55 It's pronounced: Azzz-wee-pay

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 10:30 AM (eoeps)

56 Considering the GOP's majority in the House shrank and Barky was re-elected in 2012, I think your observation could use a little re-thinking. Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 05, 2014 02:27 PM (gBnkX) He's talking about NC. Which switched to Red/Romney in 2012 and elected a GOP governor, state house and state senate. I think that's pretty fucking red.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:30 AM (0FSuD)

57 I'm fucking up my 2010s and 2012s. Sorry, will sort it out.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:30 AM (ZshNr)

Posted by: Roy at March 05, 2014 02:28 PM (z6Elp)

echo. echo. echo.

Posted by: Roy at March 05, 2014 10:30 AM (VndSC)

59 Does anyone recommend a good resource on Mumia? I'm interested to know more about the case, but it's so politicized that I have to wade through yards of leftist crap to find any information.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 05, 2014 02:29 PM (P7Wsr)

See if you can find something on topic by David Horowitz. I believe I learned about it from something he wrote.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (/29Nl)

60 President Obama chooses his nominees not for their skill or ability, but their allegiance to his ideology. Remember, this is the guy who defined sin as Â“Being out of alignment with my values.Â”

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (zfY+H)

61
They voted "no" because Mumia himself wasn't the nominee.

Posted by: Truth to Power at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (bkTIc)

62 I love that picture of Obama on Drudge scratching his head. I imagine that's how he looks when foreign policy meetings are taking place.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (A98Xu)

63 The 2nd Amendment is inherent in AmericaÂ’s cultural DNA

Limiting magazine capacity is impractical

Punishing law abiding gun owners is not the solution

I believe everyone who owns a gun should attend a basic firearms & range safety qualifications course and that these courses should be standardized

The NRA should be like PADI or NAUI and encourage gun ranges to only accept NRA basic qualified shooters on the range.

Few people outside of America understand how important firearms ownership is to Americans

Background checks are a good idea but should take minutes, not days

Often gun laws are made by people who donÂ’t use, own, or understand firearms

Mass shootings have to be dealt with head-on or America will face more gun restrictions and erosion of 2nd Amendment rights.

NRA training needs to be brought up to date.

Legislation on increasing the prevention of severely mentally ill folks (e.g. paranoid schizophrenia)from gaining access to firearms seems logical. Increase the early warning signs

Dogs/handlers at schools and colleges are better than armed guards, in my opinion. Dogs are an incredible resource to use in these situations

Guns arenÂ’t the problem, mental illness is the problem. ItÂ’s like punishing responsible automobile owners (which kill more people annually) because of drunk drivers killing innocent people on the road

I believe we should be able to concealed-carry and open-carry where practical (e.g., not on an elementary school campus or an airplane)

Guns are guns and people should be able to own and obtain a permit to own everything, short of an anti-tank weapon or WMD, if theyÂ’re properly trained/certified

The NRA should take a strong leadership position when it comes to legislation affecting ownership pro and con, not just a Â“supporterÂ” of legislation. The perception from the left is that the NRA is an uncompromising organization

I think the current NRA Executive VP Wayne LaPierre, could do more to a lot more to improve how the NRA is viewed by the rest of America, especially the youth.

If elected to the board I would be one of 76, but I would do my best to make sure we hold the elected leaders accountable, and work on ways to promote and engage the responsible youth in this country. They are the future, and you cannot ignore the decline in youth firearms participation and membership.

I believe the 2nd Amendment is a right we should keep and hold dear

Posted by: EC at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)

64 Does anyone think Barry isn't going to pardon that POS now, btw?

And before anyone can say "Federal vs. State", let me just ask who will stop him?

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 02:23 PM (/29Nl)

I think the state of Pennsylvania would tell him to go fuck himself.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (xowO9)

65 EC I saw an article where he stated after Newtown that he was open to common sense limitations to stop mass shootings.

Posted by: Adam at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (Aif/5)

66 57 I'm fucking up my 2010s and 2012s. Sorry, will sort it out. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 02:30 PM (ZshNr) I got your back.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:32 AM (0FSuD)

67 41: The book "Murdered By Mumia" by Maureen Faulkner and Michael Smerconish (in the days before his Obama man crush) pretty much lays out how spectacularly guilty the dirtbag is

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 10:32 AM (Mc4Q1)

68 I wonder if someone or someones flipped at the last moment because I cannot believe that the nomination would go up unless a vote count had been done ahead of time to insure at least passage on the initial step. Oh. Wait. That's so arrogant that, yes, I can believe that. In case you missed it, PPPPRRRRRIIIIIIMMMMMEEEE: http://youtu.be/ubGpDoyJvmI

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 10:32 AM (VtjlW)

69 Landrieu and Hagan need every single black voter to win. They are both basically writing off the swingable middle. It is a hail mary play. They are also hoping the GOP makes this an issue so they can blame their defeat on racism.

Posted by: Roy at March 05, 2014 02:28 PM (z6Elp)

If I were black, I would be so damn offended at this. "You think I'm going to vote for you because you said okay to someone who wanted to put a convicted murderer back on the streets? And you think that's okay with me because that murderer happens to be black? What the hell is wrong with you?"

But I'm not black, and being offended on their behalf seems futile.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:32 AM (4df7R)

70 It's probably Pryor Arkansas that flipped. 2014 Main article: United States Senate election in Arkansas, 2014 Pryor is running for re-election to a third term. He is being challenged by U.S. Congressman Tom Cotton. Latest polling: Cotton (R) 46% Pryor (D) 42% Republican +4% Poll before that Cotton was +5% and when an incumbent is under 50% that spells trouble.

Posted by: tasker at March 05, 2014 10:32 AM (RJMhd)

71 59 Does anyone recommend a good resource on Mumia? I'm interested to know more about the case, but it's so politicized that I have to wade through yards of leftist crap to find any information. Posted by: bonhomme at March 05, 2014 02:29 PM (P7Wsr) He's guilty. Smerconish (sp?) use to have a website on it.

Posted by: Gay Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 10:32 AM (6Nj7A)

72 I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but this vote is still scary. This asshole was one (1), count it, one (1) vote away from being confirmed.

Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2014 10:33 AM (pHRUK)

73 Thanks. It's obvious to anyone who lives here how things are shifting, just have to keep it going forever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:33 AM (ZshNr)

74 Just like that coward and master liar BUSH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at March 05, 2014 10:34 AM (yguib)

75 @68 Bob Casey and Coons where question marks. Biden was in the chair to break a tie. Reid switched at last moment so he can call for reconsideration, which he might do. He's pissed at his "racist" members.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:34 AM (0FSuD)

76 41 Does anyone recommend a good resource on Mumia? I'm interested to know more about the case, but it's so politicized that I have to wade through yards of leftist crap to find any information. Posted by: bonhomme Don't know a good neutral online source, but here's the facts from someone who knows 'em: Mumia was caught red-handed shooting and killing a cop. On a purely apolitical analysis of the facts and evidence, he's so utterly guilty that the case doesn't even merit review. Then in prison he started writing Maoist and Leninist gobbledygook, and PRESTO he became a leftist cause celebre after the fact. From that moment forward, the left has been flinging chaff in the air to to try muddy the issue of his guilt. They have failed.

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 10:34 AM (mizYg)

77 Again, media keeps reporting that George P. Bush is "half-hispanic". They never do that to left-wing hispanics. When he has kids will the media refer to them as "quadroon hispanics"?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 10:34 AM (ZPrif)

78 Nip - I emailed Hagan my insistence that she vote against the nomination. I did not expect it to have any impact, but I assume that it occupied 15 or 20 seconds of her staff's time. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 02:27 PM
======
I wonder if the Dems have a database cross-reference system that automatically filters GOP-linked emails to the legislator's official email address?

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2014 10:34 AM (JBggj)

79 No shit, soona. One vote.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 05, 2014 10:34 AM (7ci1X)

80 39 Its not that he defended Mumia, everyone has a right to a defense. Its HOW and WHY he defended Mumia. He joined the case because it was a political hot button issue and pushed the line that it was racism and government oppression, condemning the entire justice system as a defense. In other words, he's a one of those hard radical "civil rights" cranks that does not deserve any position of power. If you can get Democrats to agree, then he's really out in left field. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 02:28 PM (zfY+H) Correct. The guy was obviously guilty so their only tactic was to call everyone raaaaacccciiiiissssts! It was bullshit, dishonest, and should never be rewarded.

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 10:35 AM (6Nj7A)

81 Ukraine is kicking our ass at metric football.

Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 10:35 AM (ZKzrr)

82 @59 from Horowitz-backed Discover the Networks website, an invaluable resource:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycsvf54

Posted by: The Bard of Baltimore's Bloody Blade at March 05, 2014 10:35 AM (1/4XQ)

83 I think the state of Pennsylvania would tell him to go fuck himself.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2014 02:31 PM (xowO9)

I hope they like riots. Not letting out an innocent black man pardoned by the black president. Keep in mind, these are the LIVs. They don't know that the pardon isn't legal, nor would they care.

And it wouldn't just be Philly.

And it wouldn't just be Pennsylvania.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:35 AM (/29Nl)

84 Elections cannot come fast enough. If you haven't seen this, yet - the GOP better take notice. Dems Plan Â‘Project IvyÂ’ Tech Program to Creep Up on GOP Wasserman Schultz to DNC: Â“We know when more voters vote, Democrats win, and the Republicans know that, too.Â” http://tinyurl.com/o94b6cq We know how they are building this database, at least in part, illegally, via O'Keefe's latest expose.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 10:35 AM (IXrOn)

85 Mumia confessed to the killing after he did it, then recanted. He came across the street and shot the cop. Open and shut case.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:36 AM (0FSuD)

86 @83 The president can NOT pardon anyone of a state crime, only federal crimes. See constitution. The governor of each state is the only one that can pardon prisoners in his state.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:37 AM (0FSuD)

87
Advocacy Letter - 03/04/14

Dear Senator:

On behalf of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and the 86 undersigned organizations, we are writing to indicate our strongest possible support for the confirmation of Debo P. Adegbile to be Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice.

AFL-CIO
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Children's Defense Fund
National Center for Lesbian Rights
National Center for Transgender Equality
National Council of Jewish Women
National Council of La Raza
National Disability Rights Network
National Education Association
National Organization for Women
And so on.....

http://tinyurl.com/kslksof

Because birds of a feather.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 05, 2014 10:37 AM (kdS6q)

88 If a Democrat can get within 3% or so of their opponent in a national election, they win. That's just the new reality, folks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 10:37 AM (zfY+H)

27 10: Gov. Corbett, or the state police or whoever would have to actually open the bastard's cell.

Corbett is a piece of shit. He will open the cell himself.

Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 05, 2014 10:38 AM (Z7toi)

Joey Bidez

Is that a mistake or a gangsta spelling of his name? Either way, I like it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 05, 2014 10:38 AM (zF6Iw)

91 >>53 Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters. You forgot domestic terrorists. And traitors. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing And pedophiles and potheads

Posted by: L, elle at March 05, 2014 10:38 AM (0xqKe)

92 "The president can NOT pardon anyone of a state crime, only federal crimes. See constitution."
Yeah, he also cannot create or alter legislation, only execute it. See constitution.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 10:38 AM (zfY+H)

93 And before anyone can say "Federal vs. State", let me just ask who will stop him? Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 02:23 PM (/29Nl) Times a million

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 05, 2014 10:38 AM (R8hU8)

94 I wonder if the Dems have a database cross-reference system that automatically filters GOP-linked emails to the legislator's official email address? Posted by: mrp ---------------- I am registered as an independent (actually 'Unaffiliated') voter. I think that Hagan probably gives a priority to independents, since she is hanging by a thread.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:39 AM (aDwsi)

95 @87 Well Jewish women and Lesbians are for him, what could go wrong.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:39 AM (0FSuD)

96 Coons is from the Philly media area, The black, democrat Philly DA was opposed to this cretin.

Posted by: buzz at March 05, 2014 10:39 AM (i27M5)

"There is a mystery here, as Allah explains. One Democrat apparently flipped from "yes" to "no" at the last minute."

Coons has a safe seat that--from what I've read--would likely remain safe even if he had voted yes to confirm, so I'm guessing it was a real-deal conscience vote. It's possible, even with Democratic politicians. At least it would be pretty to think so.

Posted by: troyriser at March 05, 2014 10:39 AM (gNlvW)

98 The president can NOT pardon anyone of a state crime, only federal crimes. See constitution.

Which SCOAMF cares about passionately, and follows scrupulously. Oh, wait.

Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 10:40 AM (ZKzrr)

99
Thank God for small victories. That guy is nuttier than a gay squirrel orgy at the peanut factory.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 05, 2014 10:40 AM (gorVZ)

100 Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters. You forgot domestic terrorists. And traitors. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing And pedophiles and potheads Posted by: L, elle ------------------------------ Klan members.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:40 AM (aDwsi)

101 @83

The president can NOT pardon anyone of a state crime, only federal crimes. See constitution.

The governor of each state is the only one that can pardon prisoners in his state.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 02:37 PM (0FSuD)

And the law still matters? It doesn't matter. Come on. If Obama illegally pardons him, Pennsylvania has two choices:

- Tell Barky to pound sand and spark nationwide riots that will make Watts look like a day in the park

- Honor it.

Which one do you think they are going to do?

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:40 AM (/29Nl)

102 Corbett is a piece of shit. He will open the cell himself. Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 05, 2014 02:38 PM (Z7toi) --- OFFS He's a RINO but he was a prosecutor. He probably spits everytime he hears his name.

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (GSIDW)

103 I wonder if Obama will pardon Peltier, another stone cold killer.

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (6Nj7A)

104 Klan members. Actors.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (Hy7dS)

105 Well I can tell you what Mary Landrieu was thinking. New Orleans lately has become another target for the North Eastern Black racist crowd. They bring the money and organization for the democratic machine and they bring their own misperceptions of the South. These are the folks bankrolled by the big foundations and previous incarnations of ACORN that want to turn New Orleans into Baltimore or Philly. Because Crackahs and Bush blew up the Levees raises money, gets people mad and will lead to Social Justice and free stuff for everyone (who deserve it).

Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (m4Yvw)

106 Pretty much fucking sick of having to hit enter 4 to 5 times to get a goddamn carriage return.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (/29Nl)

107 The Mumia Case is actually very similar to the Rosenberg case. I'll explain how. In leftist circles (and I've been at parties populated by old red-diaper lefties where this was discussed openly) they are proud of the Rosenbergs for giving the secrets of the nuclear bomb to Stalin. In private, they celebrate their communist treason. But in public, they posture and pose and act like the poor innocent Rosenbergs were persecuted by McCarthyites. This is exactly what the left does with Mumia. In private, they PRAISE him for being a righteous revolutionary cop-killer who actually had the balls to really kill a real white cop and thereby fight against The Man. But in public they posture and pose and try to pretend he;s innocent. It's all bullshit. It's what the left does. Every public justification they enunciate is a flaming lie.

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (mizYg)

108

Dems have a 3% voting fraud advantage. Football teams usually gets +3 home field advantage.

Coincidence ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (7ci1X)

109 83: How far afield can we go with this. I mean honestly. Why don't they just riot now until the warden sets him free? That's about as likely as the scenario you described. Plus the "Free Mumia" nonsense is much bigger among white leftists and academics than with actual black people in Philly.

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 10:42 AM (Mc4Q1)

110 Wait, Pryor's only down by 4 points and people are doing victory laps??

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 05, 2014 10:42 AM (gBnkX)

111 98 The president can NOT pardon anyone of a state crime, only federal crimes. See constitution.
What about the pen? And the phone?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 05, 2014 10:42 AM (HFap2)

112 Pretty much fucking sick of having to hit enter 4 to 5 times to get a goddamn carriage return. Posted by: grognard ------------- I do not have that problem. What computer/operating system do you use?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:42 AM (aDwsi)

113 Israel intercepts Iranian weapons shipment to Gaza... Now we know why Medea was there.

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 10:42 AM (6Nj7A)

114 I hope they like riots. Not letting out an innocent black man pardoned by the black president. Keep in mind, these are the LIVs. They don't know that the pardon isn't legal, nor would they care.
And it wouldn't just be Philly.And it wouldn't just be Pennsylvania.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 02:35 PM (/29Nl)

Are you suggesting that an illegal act be allowed because of what might happen? There comes a time to stand on principle which seemingly eludes our elected Repuke betters.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2014 10:43 AM (xowO9)

115 I am registered as an independent (actually 'Unaffiliated') voter. I think that Hagan probably gives a priority to independents, since she is hanging by a thread.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 02:39 PM (aDwsi)

=====

Maybe. Everything I've seen and heard from the Democratic Party seems to indicate that the top priority is to slow the erosion of their coalition support.

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2014 10:43 AM (JBggj)

116 this is what wapo said In total, eight Democrats voted against confirmation in the final tally. Initially, seven Democrats voted against confirmation and Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) -- who initially voted in favor of confirmation -- later switched his vote to no, giving him the right as Senate leader to bring up the nomination again at a later date. seems they say it was reid

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 10:43 AM (IXrOn)

117 Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters.

"You said rapists twice."

"I like rapists."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 05, 2014 10:43 AM (xq1UY)

118

Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters.

You forgot domestic terrorists.

And traitors.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

And pedophiles and potheads

Posted by: L, elle

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Klan members.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 02:40 PM (aDwsi)

-----------------------------------------

Might as well throw in baby-killers as well.

Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (pHRUK)

119 Yeah one of these days I gotta do a Rosenberg Common Knowledge piece, a followup to the Sacco and Vanzetti one. Lots of similarities.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (zfY+H)

120 Plus the "Free Mumia" nonsense is much bigger among white leftists and academics than with actual black people in Philly. It's that bien pensant thingy.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (Hy7dS)

121 Which SCOAMF cares about passionately, and follows scrupulously. Oh, wait. Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 02:40 PM (ZKzrr) That and he use to teach it, so he's also got that going for him.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (0FSuD)

122 Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 02:39 PM (aDwsi) So Mr. Hammer is your senator going down in Nov?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (HVff2)

123 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (V4CBV)

124

Obama wouldn't have to actually pardon Mumia. This is how it would happen:

EXTERIOR, White House Rose Garden - January 2, 2017

REPORTER (Bill): (with planted question) Mr. President! What do you plan to do now that you're entering your last few weeks in the White House?

OBAMA: Well, Bill, there's still a lot that I've got on my plate to clear up before moving on.

REPORTER: There's been a lot of discussion about the possibility of you pardoning Mumia Abu Jamal, who as you know is in jail in Pennsylvania for killing a police officer. Have you given that any consideration?

OBAMA: As President, Bill, I can't pardon individuals who are in prison for state crimes. My ability to pardon is limited only to federal crimes. That said, were I in a position to pardon Mumia Abu Jamal, I would do so. I think the evidence speaks for itself as to the unfairness and racially motivated reasons behind his arrest and incarceration, and ours is a country that believes in fixing its mistakes, not allowing them to linger.

Cue LEFTWING WHACKJOBS crowding around the PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR'S HOME, demanding Mumia be pardoned "Because Obama said so!"

Lower curtain, fade to black.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (4df7R)

125 Pretty much fucking sick of having to hit enter 4 to 5 times to get a goddamn carriage return. That's what makes it so quaint around here.

Posted by: garrett at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (6IVXX)

126 Wait wait wait... I thought Democrats had perfect discipline and never argued amongst themselves. In other news, environmental rapist Chipotle Grill says no worries, plenty of guac for every pot.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (1Y+hH)

127 Don't believe that it is over for this guy. He ain't going away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (aDwsi)

128
And because it's just plain odd:

Debo Adegbile - Muppet Wiki

(b. 196

appeared on Sesame Street as one of the kids for nine years...

http://tinyurl.com/le2kgtm
http://youtu.be/C8-8x8hjUzQ

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (kdS6q)

129 The conversations going back and forth before the vote between the NAACP, democrat leadership and some of those senators must have been fascinating. Why is it we never catch these on tape like the democrats catch our guys? Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (u2a4R)

130 >>> 113 Israel intercepts Iranian weapons shipment to Gaza... Now we know why Medea was there. Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 02:42 PM (6Nj7A) LOL!!!!

Posted by: L, elle at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (0xqKe)

131 83: How far afield can we go with this. I mean honestly. Why don't they just riot now until the warden sets him free? That's about as likely as the scenario you described.

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 02:42 PM (Mc4Q1)

No. Not even in the same ballpark.

There's a difference between a man convicted and sitting in prison now, and the same man sitting in prison after the black President of the United States "pardons" him and the state "ignores" it.

Especially when there's an entire industry selling the story that the scumbag is innocent.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:45 AM (/29Nl)

132 And the law still matters? It doesn't matter. Come on. If Obama illegally pardons him,
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Is Mumia being held in a state pen or a federal prison? That matters.

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2014 10:46 AM (JBggj)

133 Medea Benjamin ‏@medeabenjamin 2h Medea back in US late tonight, available for interviews upon arrival & tomorrow. Email Alli@codepink.org to schedule (tweet by @allimccrack) Medea Benjamin ‏@medeabenjamin 2h Welcome home party for Medea this Friday @busboysandpoets 5 & K, Washington DC. Please join! (tweet by @AlliMcCrack from @codepink) Quick recovery! It's a miracle!!!

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 10:46 AM (6Nj7A)

134 Obama called this a 'Travesty'.

Posted by: garrett at March 05, 2014 10:46 AM (6IVXX)

135 So Mr. Hammer is your senator going down in Nov? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 05, 2014 02:44 PM (HVff2) She goes down on the WVA Senator now, but she is going to lose the election, that's a given.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:46 AM (0FSuD)

136

So Webb says you can't own a gun unless you have been trained or certified.

FUCK HIM.

Webb says gun ranges should only admit shooters if they have certified NRA gun safety training.

AGAIN FUCK HIM.

Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 05, 2014 10:46 AM (Z7toi)

137 "but a Democrat decided to duck and vote "no" to avoid the spectacle of that."

If we're speculating, since they were deep into Delaware politics together maybe Uncle Joey said something insulting to Coons once or many times in the past and when he saw Joey was there to vote maybe thought this was a good time for a fuck you.
And how much do you want to make a bet nobody bothered to court this guys vote? Just assumed he go with the flow and didn't even bother with him. So he thought he had another reason to voice his, fuck you too.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (IV4od)

138 "Hatred of America" seems to be the biggest guiding principle of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Null at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (P7hip)

139 Recall that nut-job Bill Lan Lee was rejected by the Senate. In spite of the fact that Lee was REJECTED OUTRIGHT by the Senate, Clinton made him a recess appointment. Lee proceeded to make life hell for some parts of the country.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (aDwsi)

140 fry mumia

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (V4CBV)

141 Cue LEFTWING WHACKJOBS crowding around the PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR'S HOME, demanding Mumia be pardoned "Because Obama said so!" Lower curtain, fade to black. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 05, 2014 02:45 PM (4df7R) Been tried. No one in PA is going to pardon this fucker.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (0FSuD)

142

It's no mystery. It's the same party that wants Fraternal Order of the Police money.

Posted by: Terri at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (4uSYN)

143 Are you suggesting that an illegal act be allowed because of what might happen? There comes a time to stand on principle which seemingly eludes our elected Repuke betters.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2014 02:43 PM (xowO9)

Not at all. I'm saying it's a rotten consequence no matter what decision is made, and I think urban riots scare the crap out of politicians.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (/29Nl)

144 Fricassee Mumia

Posted by: garrett at March 05, 2014 10:48 AM (6IVXX)

145
I fully expect Otyrant to empty the federal prisons with a mass pardon on his last day.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 05, 2014 10:48 AM (gorVZ)

146

The conversations going back and forth before the vote between the NAACP, democrat leadership and some of those senators must have been fascinating.

Why is it we never catch these on tape like the democrats catch our guys?

--------

Because who does the NSA work for?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 10:48 AM (eoeps)

147 What's the Legislature like in PA? I know Deval Patrick in MA would have no problem getting a majority of the Legislature to agree with him to do absolutely anything that Obama asked him to do, thus "the will of the people" is represented and all.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (ZshNr)

148 Spatchcock Mumia.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (Hy7dS)

149 Will we see a "Recess Appointment" (like, on a Saturday) by Prez PenAndPhone soon?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (aq/zi)

150 @128 THIS!
No wonder that sick f**k in the Oval Office wants him so bad.

Posted by: The Bard of Baltimore's Bloody Blade at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (1/4XQ)

151 "Why is it we never catch these on tape like the democrats catch our guys? "
We do, on occasion, it just gets deep sixed by the press rather than trumpeted from the rooftops for a week straight.
California Democrat legislature leaders were caught on open mic talking about how to use tax increases to hurt Republicans in the election. Resulting coverage: virtually nil.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (zfY+H)

152 Oh! We forgot flag burners.

Posted by: L, elle at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (0xqKe)

153 Some people still think there will be elections in November. That's adorable.

Posted by: CPAC Welcome Committee at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (Cs2tJ)

154 Don't believe that it is over for this guy. He ain't going away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 02:45 PM (aDwsi)

---------------------------------------

Yup. The senate better not adjourn......ever.

Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2014 10:49 AM (pHRUK)

155 So Webb says you can't own a gun unless you have been trained or certified.
FUCK HIM.

Webb says gun ranges should only admit shooters if they have certified NRA gun safety training.

AGAIN FUCK HIM.

Yep. I shoot at a nice indoor range with range masters who watch the shooters. If you don't know what you're doing, they teach you. If you want to learn more, they teach classes.

If you have required classes the states of Chicago and NYC and others that don't want you to have a gun will pull all sorts of shenanigans to make sure it's a hurdle you can't overcome.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 05, 2014 10:50 AM (P7Wsr)

156 Debo Adegbile - Muppet Wiki

I'll be in the corner, rocking back and forth.

Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 10:50 AM (ZKzrr)

157 Is Mumia being held in a state pen or a federal prison? That matters.

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2014 02:46 PM (JBggj)

No it doesn't. Because it doesn't matter to the Free Shit Army.

Keep in mind that you know the difference between the state and federal level, including prisons and pardons. Basing a prediction on that knowledge alone, assuming everyone is equally as informed, is the sort of thinking that leaves people surprised when shit hits the fan.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:50 AM (/29Nl)

158 Mumia is still a hot-button issue in PA. In certain parts of Philly he's a hero; in other parts, and in the rest of the state, they know he's guilty and were pissed that he didn't get the needle. It's people outside of PA who think he isn't guilty.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 10:51 AM (RD7QR)

159 >>Democrats: the party of cop-killers, rapists, and wife beaters.

You forgot domestic terrorists.

And traitors.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

You forgot rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 05, 2014 10:51 AM (Y/M/K)

160 Guys the legislature can not pardon anyone in any state. ONLY the governor has pardon powers. I comes from English common law, aka, the sovereign can pardon and only the sovereign. Check you state constitution.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:51 AM (0FSuD)

161 The only reason mumia is not fried crispy critters is they elected to commute his death sentence to life w/o parole. He will not be getting out anytime soon because Philly would like to keep some of their cops.

They would have been better off frying his ass and he would be forgotten by now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 05, 2014 10:52 AM (T2V/1)

162 Coons's very name is rayciss.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 10:52 AM (7ObY1)

163 Mumia is still a hot-button issue in PA. In certain parts of Philly he's a hero; in other parts, and in the rest of the state, they know he's guilty and were pissed that he didn't get the needle. It's people outside of PA who think he isn't guilty.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 02:51 PM (RD7QR)

And unfortunately (or fortunately), there are a lot more people outside of PA than inside.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:52 AM (4df7R)

164 Fry Mumia!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 05, 2014 10:52 AM (JHYxM)

165 ONLY the governor has pardon powers. I comes from English common law, aka, the sovereign can pardon and only the sovereign. -------------------- Bwahahahahaha.....

Posted by: Barky & Holder Clown Show at March 05, 2014 10:53 AM (aDwsi)

166 What's the Legislature like in PA? I know Deval Patrick in MA would have no problem getting a majority of the Legislature to agree with him to do absolutely anything that Obama asked him to do, thus "the will of the people" is represented and all. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 02:49 PM (ZshNr) Letting Mumia free would destroy a PA politician's career. There was never any possibility of Casey (or Toomey for that matter) voting yes on this. Outside of academic circles and some black activist circles, the rest of PA wants Mumia's head on a pike.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 10:53 AM (VtjlW)

167 And unfortunately (or fortunately), there are a lot more people outside of PA than inside. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 05, 2014 02:52 PM (4df7R) And NONE of them have ANY fucking say in the matter.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:53 AM (0FSuD)

168

I'm saying it's a rotten consequence no matter what decision is made, and I think urban riots scare the crap out of politicians.

----

I think a riot might wake up a few folks that haven't been paying attention. I don't necessarily like to see violence, but I would like to let people see their real enemy.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 10:53 AM (eoeps)

169 140 fry mumia Posted by: Dr. Varno 144 Fricassee Mumia Posted by: garrett When I went to the Tookie Williams execution, I took this picture of a guy holding a sign that said "Cook Kookie" (sic): http://www.zombietime.com/tookie/IMG_3969.JPG Result? The socialists in attendance physically frog-marched him off the premises. It was actually pretty scary -- words cannot convey the atmosphere of thinly-veiled violence. The leftists' attitude was, "If you do not leave immediately, we will literally kill you right here on the spot." he was outnumbered 500-1, and was understandably too overwhelmed to stand his ground.

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 10:53 AM (mizYg)

170 Wait, Pryor's only down by 4 points and people are doing victory laps?? ------ Yeah, me too. WTF?

Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 10:53 AM (PeY9o)

171 Mumia is still local-ish news to Delaware and a very big deal to cops. Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 02:22 PM (GSIDW) Yeah, one thing to remember is that, although police unions are the most pro-GOP unions, they're still pretty solidly Democrat. Especially in, say, Delaware.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 05, 2014 10:54 AM (T0NGe)

172 131: I don't see how it's different at all. Both are equally absurd. I'm guessing you once predicted Barky would pardon Mumia, and once you were told that's not possible you had to come up with increasingly convoluted ways it could happen. Plus, there is remarkably little support for Mumia in Philly itself. The city much prefers to pretend the whole Mumia/MOVE thing never happened.

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 10:54 AM (Mc4Q1)

173
In other news....we're saved!

Chipotle stirred up the media and guacamole lovers with news that it could "suspend" guacamole from its menu due to global warming.

But a restaurant spokesman tells the Los Angeles Times: "This is way overblown."
"The sky is not falling," Arnold said. "We have guac in all of our restaurants."

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (gorVZ)

174 Basing a prediction on that knowledge alone, assuming everyone is equally as informed, is the sort of thinking that leaves people surprised when shit hits the fan.
Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 02:50 PM
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Barry's approval rating is in the low 40s. The Ukraine news isn't going to help that. If the domestic and foreign policies are tits up, then whatever Left Coalition support the administration has left will probably hurt Obama more than it will help him. A Republican governor who defies the Administration based on solid Constitutional grounds will likely have a straight shot to higher office today.

Posted by: mrp at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (JBggj)

175 We know all this Nip Sip. We're talking about the way it could be done. One of those ways is the Governor, who could ask for a vote of the Legislature to support his cause after "lengthy and substantive discussions on race and reconciliation" convened by the President, the NAACP, ACLU, SPLC, etc. I don't think it will happen, but a Governor beholden to Obama and committed to far-Leftism is how it could happen.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (ZshNr)

176 ".........and Methodists." Posted by: weft cut-loop Hey! Hold on there...., sometimes hyperbole ain't funny.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (aDwsi)

177

Serious question, I haven't been keep up with everything hateful that there is to hate. Is there reason to hate Abdegile other than that he defended a cop killer?

John Adams is an icon in part for defending the Brits accused in the Boston Massacre.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (A0sHn)

178 What difference does it make?...the Republicants will win in November, both houses, and nothing will change. Stop voting for your local ass clown incumbent and try voting for a new face for Christ sake. Vote Libertardian, vote write ins, vote for the dead but for God's sake stop voting for the same taints like John Mccain et al.

Posted by: IrishEd at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (D0NZx)

179 >>>Bob Casey and Coons where question marks.

Casey was on the record as opposed several days ago, he's not a surprise. Coons is the surprise, but given that DE's population center (New Castle Co.) is basically a suburb of Philly, where Mumia is still a going concern, I'm not surprised.

Biden must feel like a grade-A jackass right now.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (ewYO6)

180 I believe everyone who owns a gun should attend a basic firearms range safety qualifications course and that these courses should be standardized. The NRA should be like PADI or NAUI and encourage gun ranges to only accept NRA basic qualified shooters on the range. How does this not raise a red flag?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (gBnkX)

181 @169 They haven't even started the race. Anytime an incumbent is under 50% BEFORE he even has an opponent, he's usually toast. See Kay Hagan, toasted English muffin.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 10:55 AM (0FSuD)

182 I dont get guac. It doesn't taste like anything to me.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 10:56 AM (Hy7dS)

183 Guys the legislature can not pardon anyone in any state.

ONLY the governor has pardon powers. I comes from English common law, aka, the sovereign can pardon and only the sovereign.

Check you state constitution.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 02:51 PM (0FSuD)

Yes, but a state legislature could pass a motion to the effect of "We the legislature of (blah blah state) feel that it would be just and right (yadda yadda) to pardon (insert name of crook), and we encourage governor (so and so) to do so."

Look, I'm not saying it'll happen. I'm just saying anyone who thinks it COULDN'T happen -- today, in the era of Obammy, that sees people regularly arguing Stand Your Ground laws in cases that have NOTHING to do with standing one's ground, and where Dzokhar Tsarnaev was featuerd on the cover of Rolling Stone, and that has an AG who is still in contempt of Congress and doesn't seem to care -- then I think that that person is being much, much too trusting.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 10:56 AM (4df7R)

184 I don't see how it's different at all. Both are equally absurd. I'm guessing you once predicted Barky would pardon Mumia, and once you were told that's not possible you had to come up with increasingly convoluted ways it could happen.

Plus, there is remarkably little support for Mumia in Philly itself. The city much prefers to pretend the whole Mumia/MOVE thing never happened.

Wild guess - you still think the country can crawl out of this mess politically, too. Got it.

Let me know when you realize that the paradigm has shifted, and the "rules" don't mean anything, anymore.

Barky may not attempt to pardon him, but it sure as shit wouldn't be because he thinks it is illegal.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:57 AM (/29Nl)

185 #177 Vote Libertardian Yeah, that kind of stuff's gonna win friends and influence people. There's more of us here than you think.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 10:57 AM (7ObY1)

186 once you were told that's not possible you had to come up with increasingly convoluted ways it could happen.

Ain't nothing convoluted about blackmail. Obama finds something on the State Governor with the resources of the NSA on his side.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 05, 2014 10:57 AM (P7Wsr)

187 Plus, there is remarkably little support for Mumia in Philly itself. The city much prefers to pretend the whole Mumia/MOVE thing never happened.

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 02:54 PM (Mc4Q1)

Seeing several city blocks get wiped out will do that, yes.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 10:57 AM (RD7QR)

188 party of cowards and dimwits ot laughable, but, also cry-able Video: DNC Attendees CanÂ’t Name A Single Hillary Clinton AccomplishmentÂ… http://tinyurl.com/lp9umvz weaselzippers

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 10:57 AM (IXrOn)

189 The 1980s called, they want their Cop Killer back.

Posted by: garrett at March 05, 2014 10:57 AM (6IVXX)

190 I dont get guac. It doesn't taste like anything to me. Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 02:56 PM (Hy7dS) Your tastebuds must be broken. It's good stuff.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 10:57 AM (x3YFz)

191 Harry Reid switched his vote for "Yes" to "No" to allow him to bring the matter up for a vote again.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at March 05, 2014 10:58 AM (e8kgV)

192
Look, I'm not saying it'll happen. I'm just saying anyone who thinks it COULDN'T happen -- today, in the era of Obammy, that sees people regularly arguing Stand Your Ground laws in cases that have NOTHING to do with standing one's ground, and where Dzokhar Tsarnaev was featuerd on the cover of Rolling Stone, and that has an AG who is still in contempt of Congress and doesn't seem to care -- then I think that that person is being much, much too trusting.

THIS. Smart and hawt.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 10:58 AM (/29Nl)

193 First Half ends, Ukraine 1, USA 0.

Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 10:58 AM (ZKzrr)

194 Video: DNC Attendees CanÂ’t Name A Single Hillary Clinton AccomplishmentÂ… Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 02:57 PM (IXrOn) She did manage to grow that second chin on her way to looking like a dried apple witch.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (x3YFz)

195 >>>What difference does it make?...the Republicants will win in November, both houses, and nothing will change. Stop voting for your local ass clown incumbent and try voting for a new face for Christ sake. Vote Libertardian, vote write ins, vote for the dead but for God's sake stop voting for the same taints like John Mccain et al.

Shut the fuck up and go away. Obvious concern troll is obvious.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (ewYO6)

196 We've talked about this at least a dozen times before, everybody knows a straight Presidential pardon is not an option.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (ZshNr)

197 Serious question, I haven't been keep up with everything hateful that there is to hate. Is there reason to hate Abdegile other than that he defended a cop killer?

John Adams is an icon in part for defending the Brits accused in the Boston Massacre.

Adams argued that we must be just to preserve the system.

Abdegile whipped up racial hatred to try to pervert justice.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (P7Wsr)

198

Pryor has a pretty serious chance of getting kicked out, so he makes sense.

Posted by: Lea at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (lIU4e)

199 Nice in any event. Come 2016, I agree in spades [denouncing self] with those that say purge, purge, purge, the federal government of anybody and everybody appointed or connected in any way to this administration (or those 'civil servants' that sold out and joined in their destruction of America) when this nightmare is over.

Because a wholesale slaughter would be too obvious, do it piecemeal while preventing them from doing anything further in their positions. "Rubber room" them (like bad NY school teachers) by requiring a comprehensive and fact based self written work bio of: their specific qualifications for their positions, what they accomplished in the past 8 years, why those tasks were taken, who directed them to pursue those tasks and with specific identification of the benefits to the country, the expenses to the country and/or Americans and/or business, alternatives considered and rejected (and why), objections made by non-fellow travelers to courses of action and the specific factual reasons they were ignored etc. If they fail in their explanations, fire if you can or move them to the most inhospitable and worst departments where no further harm can be done.

I would add the the most egregious ones (e.g., IRS, EPA etc.) should be audited personally, their gov't expenses scrutinized and challenged with demands and/or lawsuits for restitution and criminal prosecution if warranted.

Sometimes, karma needs a little help. Perchance to dream...

Posted by: eureka! at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (xiXna)

200 Is there reason to hate Abdegile other than that he defended a cop killer? --------------------- Yes. He is a leftist, 'social justice' driven race baiter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (aDwsi)

201
Maryland on the other hand just released a Black Panther who executed a cop and seriously injured another as they were sitting in a police car.

Over at WZ.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (gorVZ)

202 181 I dont get guac.

It doesn't taste like anything to me.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 02:56 PM (Hy7dS)

It's like mushrooms: more a texture than a taste.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (RD7QR)

203 176 Adegbile didn't defend Mumia until after Mumia was already a famous lefty felon icon, and then only to start practicing the race card defense. Adegbile has done a bunch of race card pushing via the NAACP LDF. He also advocates not letting businesses refuse to hire someone who is a felon, as a civil rights issue.

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (GSIDW)

204 I'm late but I wanted to add this: Pope Francis: Hey, When In Rome... that's the alternate post title for pope post below

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (W6Jq2)

205 Your tastebuds must be broken. It's good stuff. I mean specifically avocadoes. I don't have avocado taste buds.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 10:59 AM (Hy7dS)

206

Hey, we have basically the entire New Left running the fucking country...

So, we must see this kinda shit go on.

It's remarkable, but the natural order of things, I think.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at March 05, 2014 11:00 AM (xggaJ)

207 @174 Ha Ha. Find me a governor that is willing to give the legislature his pardon powers and I give you a state supreme court that stops it. Each state has a constitution, the Governor must follow it. No governor would ever consider doing so. Any legislator can introduce a "sense" of the body bill, it has no legal standing what so ever. Keep trying.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 11:00 AM (0FSuD)

208 We've talked about this at least a dozen times before, everybody knows a straight Presidential pardon is not an option.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 02:59 PM (ZshNr)

And the executive branch can't rewrite laws on its own, either.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 11:00 AM (/29Nl)

209 Yeah, everyone knew and understood Separation of Powers before as well. Until they didn't.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 05, 2014 11:00 AM (gBnkX)

210 It doesn't taste like anything to me. Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 02:56 PM (Hy7dS) It's like mushrooms: more a texture than a taste. Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 02:59 PM (RD7QR) so avocados have no taste to either of you? So sad.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 11:01 AM (x3YFz)

211 I'm surprised we haven't heard that Mumia has "terminal cancer" and compassion dictates that he be released. That'll be next month.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:01 AM (ZshNr)

212 Just remember, Morons, never, ever underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Especially if they can vote.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 05, 2014 11:01 AM (kZVsz)

213 "Serious question, I haven't been keep up with everything hateful that there is to hate. Is there reason to hate Abdegile other than that he defended a cop killer? "
The opposition isn't that he defended a cop killer, its how and why he did it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 11:01 AM (zfY+H)

214 Pennsylvania needs to stay off Jarrett's enemy list.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 11:01 AM (/29Nl)

215 To get it done without the PA Governor's consent seems beyond even Obama's capacity to ignore the law.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:02 AM (ZshNr)

216 >>>I dont get guac.
It doesn't taste like anything to me.<<<

Needs moar onion.

Posted by: Fritz at March 05, 2014 11:02 AM (PnMCP)

217 209 It doesn't taste like anything to me.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 02:56 PM (Hy7dS)

It's like mushrooms: more a texture than a taste.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 02:59 PM (RD7QR)

so avocados have no taste to either of you? So sad.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 03:01 PM (x3YFz)

Eh. I spent my misspent youth eating indian curry and Mexican food. My taste buds have been cowering in their caves since then.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 11:03 AM (RD7QR)

218 The good news is that Ray Jasper is going to be executed in Texas this month. He was whining about racism, blah, blah... Said he didn't even kill the victim. Actually, he didn't. He only slit the guy's throat and held him down while his friend finished stabbing him. And just because he is black, they gave him the death penalty. There just isn't any justice.

Posted by: jwest at March 05, 2014 11:03 AM (u2a4R)

219 Chipotle stirred up the media and guacamole lovers with news that it could "suspend" guacamole from its menu due to global warming. But a restaurant spokesman tells the Los Angeles Times: "This is way overblown." "The sky is not falling," Arnold said. "We have guac in all of our restaurants." Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 05, 2014 02:55 PM (gorVZ) This is so dumb. Avocadoes grow like weeds in California. So many people have them in their backyards, and it's like a minefield. You can't eat them all, or give them away during harvest time. They just fall to the ground.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 11:03 AM (IXrOn)

220

Each state has a constitution, the Governor must follow it.

Thank Allah I don't have to deal with that bullshit.

Posted by: President Needledick at March 05, 2014 11:03 AM (BrQrN)

221 Everything's better with onions.

Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (Hy7dS)

222 Just remember, Morons, never, ever underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Especially if they can vote. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 05, 2014 .....Hi there!

Posted by: LIV's at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (gLjvy)

223 To get it done without the PA Governor's consent seems beyond even Obama's capacity to ignore the law.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 03:02 PM (ZshNr)

Who says it would be?

Listen, all Obama has to do is drop the "pardon" and watch the shit hit the fan. The nature of that shit depends on the intestinal fortitude of the governor and the population.

This is an extortion society, now.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (/29Nl)

224 >>>I dont get guac.

It doesn't taste like anything to me.<<<

Its good, it tastes like semen!

Posted by: Bracky Oprezzy at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (gorVZ)

225 I think a lot of the people commenting about Obama using various tricks to get Mumia out vastly underestimate the political sway the FOP has in Philly. Philly cops would straight walk off the job. Any prison warden or DOC official ordered to open his cell would resign in protest. Even the Dems in PA are very pro-police.

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (Mc4Q1)

226 The flip vote was Harry Reid so that he can bring this nomination up again...http://tinyurl.com/mydquu2

Posted by: nodnol at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (l8a2X)

227 Does anyone think Barry isn't going to pardon that POS now, btw?

And before anyone can say "Federal vs. State", let me just ask who will stop him?

========

He's in a state prison. Zero will have to send in a fed extraction team. And even if he does manage to get out, he won't last a week .

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (YmPwQ)

228 I'm betting this guy is installed before the end of next week. Any takers?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:04 AM (aDwsi)

229 Anyone listen to President Price Floor's rabble-rousing speech today? obama had his usual backdrop of nodding and clapping seals. Meanwhile, the Republicans are getting the IRS scandal shoved right back up their asses.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 11:05 AM (W6Jq2)

230 Man, on a cold and damp day a bowl of hot chilli hits the spot. Just had some from the club. Farts are in my future, that is for sure. BBL. Off to work out.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 11:05 AM (0FSuD)

231 so avocados have no taste to either of you? So sad. Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 03:01 PM (x3YFz) I always have avocados in the house. Probably eat them at least once a week, if not more (this week, 3 times). I cannot get enough of them, really. Great for shiny, healthy hair, too...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 11:05 AM (IXrOn)

232 Ain't nothing convoluted about blackmail. Obama finds something on the State Governor with the resources of the NSA on his side.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 05, 2014 02:57 PM (P7Wsr)

----------------------------------------------

And there it is. No one escapes the reach of Baraka's all-seeing eye.

Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (pHRUK)

233 This is so dumb. Avocadoes grow like weeds in California. So many people have them in their backyards, and it's like a minefield. You can't eat them all, or give them away during harvest time. They just fall to the ground. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 03:03 PM Send them up here! I love avocadoes. They are pretty spendy in the markets. Mmmm now I am hungry for guac. Damnit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (gLjvy)

234 I have it on excellent authority the Ace is actually a chick, Anna Puma is actually a guy, & AtC is actually the IBM computer deep blue... all becomes clear...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (JHYxM)

235 227 I'm betting this guy is installed before the end of next week. Any takers?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 03:04 PM (aDwsi)

I could see a recess appointment but installing him before Congress goes into recess is too much even for our current crop of legislative jellyfish.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (RD7QR)

236 I'm waiting to see if Pryor is offered a mid six figure job on K street in return for a yes vote, seeing as his race is all but lost.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (eoeps)

237 I like avocados with cream, or in a shake. Avocado ice cream. Yum. Guacamole, meh.

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (GSIDW)

238 ...resign in protest.

You can do that?

Posted by: US flag level officers at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (/29Nl)

239 Philly is generally a libtardian nirvana, but even here Mumia is loathed by a vast majority of the population.

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (YmPwQ)

240 Farts are in my future, that is for sure. Hey man, that's the trade-off for some yummy chili. It's about zero degrees here, think I'll get some myself for dinner. With a side of Beano.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 11:06 AM (7ObY1)

241 I looked up the PA Governor. Mumia isn't going anywhere. If this had been MA or CA or VT, could have been a whole different story.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:07 AM (ZshNr)

242 Mumia is much more popular in Europe than he even is to the American left. The average European, having only been fed complete lies about the case, not only has heard of Mumia but knows definitively that he is a mere political prisoner who was framed by white racists. This is common wisdom across Europe.

Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 11:07 AM (mizYg)

243 I cannot get enough of them, really. Great for shiny, healthy hair, too... Must...resist...joke...must...resist...joke...

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 11:07 AM (7ObY1)

244 He's in a state prison. Zero will have to send in a fed extraction team. And even if he does manage to get out, he won't last a week .

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 03:04 PM (YmPwQ)

Now read the rest of the thread so you can get my real point.

Posted by: US flag level officers at March 05, 2014 11:08 AM (/29Nl)

245 227 I'm betting this guy is installed before the end of next week. Any takers? Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 03:04 PM (aDwsi) I wouldn't run it out, BUT it would be the first time Harry Reid, pederast, would have a successful vote to reconsider in the entire session. This is not a hill to die on. He's going through the motions.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 11:08 AM (0FSuD)

246 >>>> I mean specifically avocadoes. I don't have avocado taste buds. Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 02:59 PM (Hy7dS) Try cutting one in half. Replace the pit with cream cheese. Salt it. Yummy.

Posted by: L, elle at March 05, 2014 11:08 AM (0xqKe)

247 I could see a recess appointment but installing him before Congress goes into recess is too much even for our current crop of legislative jellyfish. Sarcasm?

Posted by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper at March 05, 2014 11:08 AM (6IVXX)

248 off sock

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 11:08 AM (/29Nl)

249 AtC is actually the IBM computer deep blue... all becomes clear... Posted by: OG Celtic --------------------- Uh, oh. Failed the Turing Test. Back to the drawing table.

Posted by: HAL at March 05, 2014 11:08 AM (aDwsi)

250 Great for shiny, healthy hair, too...

I sense an opportunity for a lucrative trade with Endor.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 05, 2014 11:08 AM (jlOxu)

251 I believe everyone who owns a gun should attend a basic firearms range safety qualifications course and that these courses should be standardized. The NRA should be like PADI or NAUI and encourage gun ranges to only accept NRA basic qualified shooters on the range. I used to shoot competitively and also remember as a kid, completing the NRA "Expert" or "Marksman" bar system course. My Dad kept the medals and after he died I have no idea what happened to that stuff. This standardized thing makes it sound like the NRA becomes the certifying agency for owning a weapon. Much like every freaking other money and power scam in our society. Taking care of your elderly parents? You have to pay a fee and take a course and register with the State, etc., etc. Bullshit. The whole point of the Bill of Rights was that certain God given rights were spelled out in advance so as not to be given to government to fuck with.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 11:09 AM (+qFrW)

252 224 I think a lot of the people commenting about Obama using various tricks to get Mumia out vastly underestimate the political sway the FOP has in Philly. Philly cops would straight walk off the job. Any prison warden or DOC official ordered to open his cell would resign in protest. Even the Dems in PA are very pro-police. Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 03:04 PM (Mc4Q1) Years ago, I came across a story about another cop killer about to be paroled and with a little research determined he was not eligible. I contacted the FOP and they did a great job and parole was denied. Its been a big battle but he's still inside. Now, the little shit and his followers don't brag so much on the internet about getting releaed.

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 11:09 AM (6Nj7A)

253 I walk past the corner (13th and Locust) where Wesley Cook committed his murder, just about every day. There is a plaque on the sidewalk commemorating Officer Faulkner.

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 11:09 AM (YmPwQ)

254 Party of cowards describes Terminus. Here at Ace on an earlier thread, Someone this morning was asking about an "essay" regarding the division of America today between urban and the rest of us. The theme was familiar. I've recalled a film I mentioned here last summer, and went back through the threads searching unsuccessfully to find: urban, suburban, and OT, to post the following prose near where it was sought by another. If you've patience to visualize images before the voice speaks a verse, watch the film. It is beautifully crafted. "Gen.Orders#9" By Robert Persons, "a film of absences" an Independent "art film" Terminus: Atlanta, Georgia Of the Title: Confederate General Robert E. Lee issued his Farewell Address, also known as General Order No. 9 (sometimes Orders) to his Army of Northern Virginia April 10, 1865, the day after surrender to Gen. U. Grant after Appomatox. He has a mythical quality of character, and his statement of surrender expressed tender dignity to his men. The film uses the title, but is NOT about Gen.Orders#9. It's a metaphor for the film, a spiritual surrender. Just like the rabbit (Brer Rabbit) for the movie's poster doesn't appear in the film, it's the animal familiar of the narrator. I take bits and pieces from history and put them together in a new way, my collage. --Person's interview. Person's Film Narrative (in part): Come to the shady grove down in the meadow. Lay your head down, darlin', down in the garden. In our exile, in our disorientation, it appears to us. It appears as a ghostly longing, a feeling tight in the throat. It appears w/ or w/o our consent in the deep parts' core After the storm, it appears to us. It appears as the virgin appeared to the Aztec Even though our surroundings have become something detestable It appears as a world entire, as a wheel upon the earth, even after what will happen and what will come. This place has not yet perished, because in April you can still feel it. That something is pushing against the surface of things. (back to viewing the county court house) Here there is a sense of order, from above, from below from within and without not one brick out of true not one heford out of pasture. The courthouse is the man, and the county is the world. The town is at the center of the county the courthouse is at the center of the town. (the bell tolls) And the weather vane is the center of it all. [@26 visual recap of 'first deer track, then Indian path, then county road' antler to vine, man to a badge, symbolic highway sign.] (Visual of the Map) An alliance of equal kingdoms none claiming precedence over the other any one of them a whole world. Then the interstate was built. It went through the county, within a half mile of the court house. The interstate does not serve. It possesses. It had the power to make the land invisible to our attention. The interstate made the city possible. It began with the same lines and the same confluences as any other. But the form of the city became something abhorrent. The form of the city is the locus of three interstates within a perimeter, a grand ring around the cruciform stick figure, or a wheel haphazardly drawn. It seems to be an emblem of the whole, an image of what seems to be a center. It leads the eye to what must be the center of the city's heart. But it's a false center. A false center, and a map of what is to comes next. The bomb. The banality. The epidemic of the future. All the things that are going to happen, are going to happen here. There are no words to describe the city, no words to describe its weight against you, no words to describe the things witnessed there, there's no way to show it, no way to explain, no way to make sense of it. In the city, my heart was made desolate when I looked into the face of the sun, wanting to look for some evidence of communion, some sign of belonging, the relation of one's part with the city as a whole. But the answer to your question is no. The city is Terminus*. It is the absence of idea, of order. It is an inability of condition. The city is not a place. It is a thing. It has none of the marks of a place, but all those of a machine. Terminus, the original name of Atlanta, Georgia, USA; Terminus (office complex), an office complex in Atlanta; Terminus (god), a Roman deity who protected boundary markers... Why is the sign of the thing preferred to the thing itself? Is it near? A day of darkness and gloom. A day of clouds and thick darkness. My bones are vexed and my soul is fore troubled. This is where the future will happen. They're making clear the path. What remains when all have gone? What is it that remains when each generation finds itself in unfamiliar surroundings? When an end comes to that which gives comfort. When what is lost by the father is lost by the son, could there have been some other way? We can see the marks on the ground, the land and what we let happen to it. I can't make sense of it. We don't want these things, and we don't want to live in these places. Let us have a place of our own, a simple place with the light of day, and ordinary place untouched. It's not something we get over with the passing of time, It's not something you'll survive or side step. You are not a witness of the ruin, you are the ruin. You are to be witnessed. The only response is to refuse, to go among the ruins and sit among them. ...

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 11:09 AM (MhA4j)

255 EC:
Not tangonine, but I'll give you the ones that make him unacceptable to me. 4,5,12,14, and then 15 is a killer. Will go back and read comments now; I may be late.

Posted by: AnthonyB at March 05, 2014 11:10 AM (m7EhJ)

256 Avocado ice cream. Yum. What? WHAT!?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 05, 2014 11:10 AM (oMKp3)

257 And even if he does manage to get out, he won't last a week.

Real life isn't the movies. I see lots of people make statements like this, but the world seems to say differently.

How come mobsters and gang bangers don't fear the families of their victims? Why is William Ayers wandering around unmolested?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 05, 2014 11:10 AM (P7Wsr)

258 My point is that the paradigm has shifted, and that there is no rule of law.

I am promptly countered with the rule of law.

Is there any wonder why the GOP in DC doesn't get it?

We're boned.

Posted by: grognard at March 05, 2014 11:10 AM (/29Nl)

259 238: Yeah I don't think many of the people commenting on this understand that. I suppose it's something of an idiosyncratic Philly culture thing. Support for Mumia even among lefties rises exponentially in proportion to distance from Philly

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 11:10 AM (Mc4Q1)

260 I could see a recess appointment but installing him before Congress goes into recess is too much even for our current crop of legislative jellyfish. --------------- Recess appointment will not be necessary, after a few whispers into their ears, a couple of Dem Senators will flip. New vote, passes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:10 AM (aDwsi)

261 It's okay, though, because Francis is still firm on abortion. For today, anyway.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 11:11 AM (W6Jq2)

262 No governor would ever consider doing so. Any legislator can introduce a "sense" of the body bill, it has no legal standing what so ever.

Keep trying.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 03:00 PM (0FSuD)

FFS, would you pay attention? No one's saying a state legislature could or would take the governor's pardon powers. But if you're a governor, and you want to make it look like you've got the consent of the governed to do something deeply unpopular that All The Important People (tm) are telling you you have to do, and you've got enough goods on the people in your legislature that you can make them vote for some piece of shit, non-legally binding motion that gives you some cover, then you'd do it.

This is not rocket science.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 11:11 AM (4df7R)

263 My son is a certified NRA shoot gun instructor. Taught at Philmont Scout Ranch one summer. Tough job getting to shoot 10,000 some shells for free and get paid for it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 11:11 AM (0FSuD)

264 This world, it's a-changing.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 11:12 AM (W6Jq2)

265 Video: DNC Attendees CanÂ’t Name A Single Hillary Clinton AccomplishmentÂ… Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 02:57 PM (IXrOn) She did manage to grow that second chin on her way to looking like a dried apple witch. Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 02:59 PM (x3YFz) If you haven't listened, it's insane. "Obama put her in that position for some reason." (so it must be good, right?) "It's what didn't happen." (that is what she accomplished - the fact she has no accomplishments) What gave her the experience? "She's was well traveled." "She was in the White House." good grief And, they did not get how stupid they looked.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 11:12 AM (IXrOn)

266 When I went to the Tookie Williams execution, - What? They're executing children's authors now? That seems a little extreme.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 05, 2014 11:12 AM (Nwxg+)

267 First call ever from Tillis just now.

Posted by: NCKate at March 05, 2014 11:13 AM (y7PFk)

268 The problem with relying on Gov. Corbett for anything is that he's somewhat likely to not be the governor when Zero's term is up. He's up for reelection this year and is underwater in the polling, but the Dems don't seem to have any "esciting" candidates either.

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 11:13 AM (YmPwQ)

269 154 So Webb says you can't own a gun unless you have been trained or certified. FUCK HIM. Webb says gun ranges should only admit shooters if they have certified NRA gun safety training. AGAIN FUCK HIM. Yep. I shoot at a nice indoor range with range masters who watch the shooters. If you don't know what you're doing, they teach you. If you want to learn more, they teach classes. If you have required classes the states of Chicago and NYC and others that don't want you to have a gun will pull all sorts of shenanigans to make sure it's a hurdle you can't overcome. Posted by: bonhomme at March 05, 2014 02:50 PM (P7Wsr) If you read "The Red Circle" (which is not a bad book), it's Brandon's autobiography, for the most part. He grew up a hippie; on boats, diving, around CA. I understand why he has the views he does, but I do not agree with them. For those of you at home, BW is often on FOX in his capacity as a former SEAL, so you may have seen him there. I disagree with his stance on gun ownership. I understand exactly where he's coming from and completely disagree with him on it. Do NOT let him on the board of the NRA.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 11:13 AM (x3YFz)

270 Nip Sip, no Governor? You sure about that? Deval Patrick, maybe?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:13 AM (ZshNr)

271 267 The problem with relying on Gov. Corbett for anything is that he's somewhat likely to not be the governor when Zero's term is up. He's up for reelection this year and is underwater in the polling, but the Dems don't seem to have any "esciting" candidates either.

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 03:13 PM (YmPwQ)

Let's hope the raging lefty spamming the Philly market with his ads gets the Dem nomination, then Corbett at least has a fighting chance in the hinterlands.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 11:15 AM (RD7QR)

272 Recurring CA Governor Jerry Brown has worn a Free Mumia T-shirt in his day, I'd wager.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:15 AM (ZshNr)

273 So on a day when Republicans had Alan Grayson's, the Face Of The Democrat Party, head served to them on a silver platter, they are made to look like fools by the Foolish Elijah Cummings.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 11:15 AM (W6Jq2)

274 6 F-16's to Poland. Take that Vlad!

Posted by: Obama at March 05, 2014 11:15 AM (Aif/5)

275 non-legally binding motion that gives you some cover, then you'd do it. This is not rocket science. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 05, 2014 03:11 PM (4df7R) Sorry, NOT a chance. A governor would NEVER give a pardon at the instructions of a legislature or the cover of the legislature. Think of the precedence.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 11:15 AM (0FSuD)

276

Read that piece on the pope.

We live in interesting and dangerous times indeed.

Want to put the stake through the Catholic Church, openly accept and endorse gay unions.

Name me one church that has done so and has actually grown. They die and die fantastically. Sorry guys, homosexuality is a sin and always will be. It is wrong.

I'm not going to force my views on anyone, but there it is. No amount of popery can change that simple fact.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 05, 2014 11:16 AM (tVTLU)

277 PA just trades back and forth between squishy moderates of either side. I don't think a leftist enough Gov to pardon Mumia would be elected. Plus the hypothetical D Gov would simply ensure he'd be voted out in 2018 if he did.

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 11:16 AM (Mc4Q1)

278 Hey! Tangonine! I thought you'd slipped past the event horizon checking out that black hole. Good to see you back!

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 05, 2014 11:16 AM (XiVKO)

279 273 6 F-16's to Poland. Take that Vlad!

Posted by: Obama at March 05, 2014 03:15 PM (Aif/5)

Yeah, they can fly near the border and watch the Russians take over. Great.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

280 "How come mobsters and gang bangers don't fear the families of their victims? Why is William Ayers wandering around unmolested?"
Yeah you know the guy from Goodfellas? Who turned state's evidence because he was afraid he'd be hit? He was a real guy and he died not long ago not from a mob hit, but because he lived a horrible lifestyle. For years he lived basically out in the open, writing books and making lots of noise in Washington State without fear.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 11:17 AM (zfY+H)

281 So Assad captured Yabroud, the last major town held by the rebels. Looks like Assad has won.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 11:17 AM (ZPrif)

282 "A furious Mr. Reid hinted that RepublicansÂ’ opposition was based on racism, pointing to to several other black nominees that GOP senators had opposed earlier."

Racism and Global Warming - is there *anything* that can't be attributed to one of these?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 05, 2014 11:17 AM (aq/zi)

283 Oh good, now we can argue about gay ppl again. Thanks Prescient! I'm out

Posted by: BSR at March 05, 2014 11:18 AM (Mc4Q1)

284

When I went to the Tookie Williams execution,

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What? They're executing children's authors now? That seems a little extreme.

I read that as Tootie and wondered what that Facts of Life girl did

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 05, 2014 11:18 AM (3ZtZW)

285 Part of the thing on Mumia is that he didn't get a fair trial because he had no attorney. He had no attorney because he chose to exercise his right to defend himself against the court's advice. He fucked himself but he would have been found guilty regardless.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 05, 2014 11:18 AM (Nwxg+)

286 Result? The socialists in attendance physically frog-marched him off the premises. It was actually pretty scary -- words cannot convey the atmosphere of thinly-veiled violence. The leftists' attitude was, "If you do not leave immediately, we will literally kill you right here on the spot." he was outnumbered 500-1, and was understandably too overwhelmed to stand his ground. Posted by: zombie at March 05, 2014 02:53 PM (mizYg) I get a lot of death threats from people who oppose the death penalty.

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 11:18 AM (6Nj7A)

287 Video: DNC Attendees CanÂ’t Name A Single Hillary Clinton AccomplishmentÂ… --------- But, but..., what about: Whitewater Filegate (1000 FBI files pulled) Travelgate Rose Law Firm records Craig Livingstone Un-Constitutional Health Care plans Vince Foster Cattle Futures Benghazi ...and , etc., it's a long fcuking list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:18 AM (aDwsi)

288 6 F-16's to Poland. Light skinned, articulate and tough. If only Barack had a son.

Posted by: Harry Reid (D) at March 05, 2014 11:19 AM (6IVXX)

289 it's begun A furious Mr. Reid hinted that RepublicansÂ’ opposition was based on racism, pointing to to several other black nominees that GOP senators had opposed earlier.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 05, 2014 11:19 AM (IXrOn)

290 280 So Assad captured Yabroud, the last major town held by the rebels.

Looks like Assad has won.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 03:17 PM (ZPrif)

Vlad Putin is victorious all around. And now the massacres go into high gear in Syria.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 11:19 AM (RD7QR)

291 269 Nip Sip, no Governor? You sure about that? Deval Patrick, maybe? Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 03:13 PM (ZshNr) Not sure what the question is. I am pretty sure every state gives the gov a veto. If you mean Cadillac De Ville might pardon him, that is true, but he wouldn't need the legislature to tell him to, he'd do it on his own. We were discussing PA. To put the question in perspective. Do you think De Ville would pardon the Boston Bomber? He's a political prisoner to some Muslims.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 11:20 AM (0FSuD)

292 My neighbors are packing up and moving. I told them I'd fix the fence.

Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2014 11:20 AM (pHRUK)

293 The reports say 99 votes (47+52). Who didn't vote?

Posted by: Huggy at March 05, 2014 11:20 AM (VctSv)

294 Looks like Assad has won.

And all without crossing a red line! Well, not twice, anyway.

*preens*

Posted by: God-Emperor Barky I at March 05, 2014 11:20 AM (jlOxu)

295 How come mobsters and gang bangers don't fear the families of their victims? Why is William Ayers wandering around unmolested?

====

Mobsters, at least, have their code of leaving "innocents" alone. There are plenty of examples of gang-bangers taking revenge on families. The Philly Police, the PA (and NJ, and DE) State police, local cops and sheriffs, all take the Mumia support as a personal affront. Mumia is not some "run of the mill" cop killer, he's been elevated to demigiod status among his supporters.

I'm not going to tell you that a cop is just going to walk up and shoot him at the press conference, but I'm pretty confident that unless Cook gets straight on a plane to Cuba, he'll have some sort of accident.

Fear of the police and the FOP response, and probably vocal constituents, made 7 Dem senators back down, didn't it?

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 11:20 AM (YmPwQ)

296 T9 - Hey pal..., where you been? I know that there was a little dust-up, but, hell that happens.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:21 AM (aDwsi)

297 The average European, having only been fed complete lies about the case, not only has heard of Mumia but knows definitively that he is a mere political prisoner who was framed by white racists. Saint-Denis, France is the site of the Nelson Mandela (football) stadium. The boulevard leading to it is named "Mumia Abu Jamal Boulevard" in his honor.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 11:21 AM (i1vov)

298 WASHINGTONÂ—Wade Henderson, president and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, released the statement below following the Senate filibuster of Debo Adegbile to be Assistant Attorney General of the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice:

This filibuster shows a hypocritical double standard. During the course of their long careers, both John Roberts and Debo Adegbile each performed a vital constitutional service by representing an unpopular client on death row. Roberts is now Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, but opponents of the Adegbile nomination twisted reality and resorted to some of the dirtiest attacks IÂ’ve seen in my professional career. Instead of extolling his admirable record of service, as the American Bar Association did, extremists turned this family man into a Â‘cop-killer defenderÂ’ and a buffoonish racialized caricature.

... filibuster !?! He lost .. there was no filibuster.
What a buffoonish racialized caricature of the events of the day.

Posted by: Nikola Tesla at March 05, 2014 11:21 AM (e8kgV)

299

A furious Mr. Reid hinted that RepublicansÂ’ opposition was based on racism, pointing to to several other black nominees that GOP senators had opposed earlier.

There must be one or two GOP senators willing to cross over in the name of bipartisanship, so that vulnderable democrats can get the result they want without actually having to vote for it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 11:21 AM (eoeps)

300 Race card thrown by Harry (Heidi the Cross-Eyed Opossum) Reid! on denial of cop killer to regime. Like there is no diversity in Baroque's cabinet or this is 2014 and not 1954.

That fall of his, with his black-eye, and resulting in eyes permanently glued to podium has also caused him to not see in color. A virtual blizzard of peoples...or that condition where you can't see faces, *Prosopagnosia.

*Not to be confused with Presbyterians, morons!

It is official: Senator Reid is a prosopagnosiac post concussion.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at March 05, 2014 11:22 AM (baL2B)

301 Hey --- Kerry just said that all the refugees from Syrian forced into Lebanon are a problem because it is driving wages down in Lebanon. He actually said that as one of the problems the Syrian War has caused Lebanon.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 11:22 AM (ZPrif)

302 What I'm saying is that Deval Patrol, Jerry Brown, any other far-Left Governor would gladly play along with the maneuvers outlined above. PA doesn't have that issue at the moment, so Mumia will stay in jail. But don't think that no Governor would ever do such a thing, in Cambridge or San Fran it'd be a fundraising bonanza.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:23 AM (ZshNr)

303 Yeah its sad what Europeans get told about America and believe. I have to keep (gently) correcting my British buddy who watches a show like Gasland and thinks its the gospel truth. They have little understanding of what is happening, but strong convictions that they know.
Thankfully he's very untrusting of media and government and is never surprised when what he's heard turns out to be a bunch of horse hockey.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 05, 2014 11:23 AM (zfY+H)

304 How come mobsters and gang bangers don't fear the families of their victims? Why is William Ayers wandering around unmolested? ---------------- Where were Monica Lewinsky's father/brothers? Chandra Levy's father/brother? Clearly, party fealty is more important than real personal/family responsibility.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:23 AM (aDwsi)

305

My neighbors are packing up and moving. I told them I'd fix the fence.

We wouldn't mind about the broken fence if you'd stop sticking your dick through it.

Posted by: Soona's Neighbours at March 05, 2014 11:23 AM (BrQrN)

306 300 Hey --- Kerry just said that all the refugees from Syrian forced into Lebanon are a problem because it is driving wages down in Lebanon.

He actually said that as one of the problems the Syrian War has caused Lebanon.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 03:22 PM (ZPrif)

And the fact that the refugees would be massacred if they went back didn't register. Smart. Diplomacy.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 11:23 AM (RD7QR)

307 Nice Spellcheck. He's Devil Patrol from now on.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:24 AM (ZshNr)

308 So -- Q-daffy lost while Assad won. Q-daffy gave up his chemical weapons when American threatened him. Assad not only kept his chem weapons, but used them even after American threatened him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 11:24 AM (ZPrif)

309 272 So on a day when Republicans had Alan Grayson's, the Face Of The Democrat Party, head served to them on a silver platter, they are made to look like fools by the Foolish Elijah Cummings. And played like fiddles by Lois Lerner. Every time I think the GOPe can't get any more worthless, they surprise me. Absolute joke of a party.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 11:24 AM (7ObY1)

310

Hey --- Kerry just said that all the refugees from Syrian forced into
Lebanon are a problem because it is driving wages down in Lebanon.

----

Can't Lebanon have an amnesty? That would fix everything - just ask Boehner

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 11:25 AM (eoeps)

311 >>> Saint-Denis, France is the site of the Nelson Mandela (football) stadium. The boulevard leading to it is named "Mumia Abu Jamal Boulevard" in his honor. Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 03:21 PM (i1vov) You forgot to add *SPIT* to the end of that

Posted by: L, elle at March 05, 2014 11:25 AM (0xqKe)

312 307 So -- Q-daffy lost while Assad won.

Q-daffy gave up his chemical weapons when American threatened him.

Assad not only kept his chem weapons, but used them even after American threatened him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 03:24 PM (ZPrif)

Lesson: Get WMDs, never give them up, and use them at will. Smart. Diplomacy.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 11:25 AM (RD7QR)

313 I saw Devil Patrol open for Judas Priest, Air Canada Centre, 1996.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 11:25 AM (7ObY1)

314 300 Hey --- Kerry just said that all the refugees from Syrian forced into Lebanon are a problem because it is driving wages down in Lebanon. He actually said that as one of the problems the Syrian War has caused Lebanon. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 05, 2014 03:22 PM (ZPrif) ********** Is he dyslexic?

Posted by: tasker at March 05, 2014 11:25 AM (RJMhd)

315 Give the refugees a living wage!!

Posted by: NCKate at March 05, 2014 11:25 AM (y7PFk)

316 what's with the bird on a stick on the sidebar?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 11:26 AM (W6Jq2)

317 If Assad wins, it probably will be a good thing for the Christians there.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 05, 2014 11:26 AM (Nwxg+)

318 I saw Devil Patrol open for Winged Ewoks at PACAF

Posted by: tasker at March 05, 2014 11:27 AM (RJMhd)

319 I'm not seeing anything radical enough to raise red flags, unless he's said something different somewhere else. Taken from: http://tinyurl.com/omvxthy Posted by: EC at March 05, 2014 02:29 PM (GQ8sn) well, let me take a few points: "I believe everyone who owns a gun should attend a basic firearms range safety qualifications course and that these courses should be standardized" (not constitutional) "The NRA should be like PADI or NAUI and encourage gun ranges to only accept NRA basic qualified shooters on the range." (really? So only accept basic qualified shooters and turn away unqualified shooters instead of helping them? Where the hell else are people going to get experience shooting? chicken, meet egg) "Mass shootings have to be dealt with head-on or America will face more gun restrictions and erosion of 2nd Amendment rights." (the vast majority of mass shootings are not executed by lawful gun owners, it's a moot point. There is no 'head on' dealing with random acts of insanity) "Legislation on increasing the prevention of severely mentally ill folks (e.g. paranoid schizophrenia)from gaining access to firearms seems logical." (Who determines who is "mentally ill" and what exactly is mental illness, and at what level does said illness trump your 2d amendment right? How about we stop mentally ill people from exercising ALL of the rights in the Bill of Rights? You see where this leads?) "Increase the early warning signsDogs/handlers at schools and colleges are better than armed guards, in my opinion." (he's welcome to his opinion, but dogs can't shoot back) "I believe we should be able to concealed-carry and open-carry where practical (e.g., not on an elementary school campus or an airplane)" Why can't I CC on an airplane or in an elementary school? Might need a bit more training, maybe another class on Don't Shoot The Airplane Because It Will Decompress, but other than that... Provide one good reason.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 11:27 AM (x3YFz)

320 Q-daffy gave up his chemical weapons when American threatened him. Under Bush - S. Hussein was deposed, captured and got his day in an Iraqi Court. Under Obama - M. Quadafy was deposed, captures and was assassinated.

Posted by: garrett at March 05, 2014 11:27 AM (6IVXX)

321 315 what's with the bird on a stick on the sidebar? Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 03:26 PM (W6Jq2) ********** Yum! Yakitori

Posted by: tasker at March 05, 2014 11:27 AM (RJMhd)

322 Posted by: Nip Sip at March 05, 2014 02:46 PM (0FSuD) Thank you for the play-by-lay Nip

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (HVff2)

323 nood

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (W6Jq2)

324 I mean specifically avocadoes. I don't have avocado taste buds. Posted by: eleven at March 05, 2014 02:59 PM (Hy7dS) Did you eat the big green avocados, or the smaller darker Hass avocados? The green ones have no flavor.

Posted by: stace at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (9PXzx)

325

Kerry just said that all the refugees from Syrian forced into
Lebanon are a problem because it is driving wages down in Lebanon

Dude, shut UP!

Posted by: Mexican Illegals at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (BrQrN)

326 As to ever freeing the Boston Bomber? Ask the Liberal Governor of MA in twenty years, you might be surprised by the answer.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (ZshNr)

327

what's with the bird on a stick on the sidebar?

Its a new snack food: Bird-on-a-stick

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (eoeps)

328 There are few men that I'd rather say, "STFU" to than John Kerry. What a weasely POS.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (A98Xu)

329 We wouldn't mind about the broken fence if you'd stop sticking your dick through it.

Posted by: Soona's Neighbours at March 05, 2014 03:23 PM (BrQrN)

--------------------------------------------------

Just saying hi. Oh well.

Posted by: Soona at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (pHRUK)

330 @Nip Sip--Moral Mondays? I work on Mondays.

Then it's Tribulation Tuesday.

WTF Wednesday.

Thankless Thursday.

And FIAF.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 05, 2014 11:28 AM (Ec6wH)

331 A furious Mr. Reid hinted that RepublicansÂ’ opposition was based on racism, pointing to to several other black nominees that GOP senators had opposed earlier. ------------ Like 'highly qualified' Mel Watt, who reportedly referred to Ralph Nader (of all people): "In 2004, Green Party candidate Ralph Nader also accused Watt of "using an obscene racial epitaph" against him during a meeting with the Congressional Black Caucus. According to an account at the time in The Hill, Nader said Watt called him, "just another arrogant white man, telling us what we can do. It's all about your ego, another (expletive) arrogant white man."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:29 AM (aDwsi)

332 Is he dyslexic?

Why? Did he say someone was wi-cked-ly ta-len-ted and then proceed to get their name wrong?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 05, 2014 11:29 AM (P7Wsr)

333

Democrat Says Republicans Would Support Abortion 'If Their Daughter Got Pregnant By a Black Man'

Puffington Host: http://tinyurl.com/olb7sje

The debate in the Alabama statehouse over a controversial new abortion restriction veered into racial territory on Tuesday when a Democratic opponent claimed that his Republican colleagues would support abortion Â“if their daughter got pregnant by a black man."

The Birmingham News reported that Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin (R-Indian Springs) kicked off the tussle by comparing the bill in question to the landmark 1954 Supreme Court ruling Brown vs. Board of Education, which declared segregation in schools was unconstitutional.

McClurkinÂ’s comments were met with a fierce response from Rep. Alvin Holmes (D-Montgomery).

Â“Ninety-nine percent of all of the white people in here are going to raise their hand that they are against abortion,Â” said Holmes, who is black. Â“On the other hand, 99 percent of the whites who are sitting in here now, if their daughter got pregnant by a black man, they are going to make their daughter have an abortion.

"You know, the truth sometimes hurts," Holmes continued. "All this stuff about abortion and this and that -- thatÂ’s just a con game. ThatÂ’s for whites, it ainÂ’t for blacks."...

I'm not even going to comment. I can't say anything that wouldn't put me on a no-fly list.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 11:30 AM (4df7R)

334 i don't understand the gist of this discussion. is it because Debo Adegbile was the atty for the killer Mumia? I don't really know details of the case , Only that he defended Mumia as was His job as an Atty? Does He advocate for killing or just advocated and defended Mumia ?

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 11:30 AM (nqBYe)

335
♪ Like a bird ...
Like a bird on a stick ... ♫

Posted by: Leonard Cohen first drafts at March 05, 2014 11:30 AM (jlOxu)

336 295 T9 - Hey pal..., where you been? I know that there was a little dust-up, but, hell that happens. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 03:21 PM (aDwsi) Meh... Just took a break. I got a bit too fired up, it happens. No blood, no foul.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 11:30 AM (x3YFz)

337 There are few men that I'd rather say, "STFU" to than John Kerry. ------------------ Kerry is merely an incompetent boob. There are many more who are actively working at destroying the basis for a civil, secure society. One lives in the White House.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:30 AM (aDwsi)

338 Recall that nut-job Bill Lan Lee was rejected by the Senate. In spite of the fact that Lee was REJECTED OUTRIGHT by the Senate, Clinton made him a recess appointment. Lee proceeded to make life hell for some parts of the country.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 02:47 PM (aDwsi)

I remember that. Nearly every fucking dogshit thing the JEF does has it's roots in Slick's presidency. Anybody who thinks that rednosed predator looking like Bob Barker with STDs was anything less than a clusterfuck for the country is a moron of the wrong kind.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2014 11:31 AM (xowO9)

339 304 My neighbors are packing up and moving. I told them I'd fix the fence.

We wouldn't mind about the broken fence if you'd stop sticking your dick through it.

Posted by: Soona's Neighbours at March 05, 2014 03:23 PM (BrQrN)

There was a guy who did this in the library a long time ago. Hung around the "new book" stacks and hoped someone would check it out! He later moved to Texas, y'all. I am not sure what this syndrome is. Possibly Harry Reid has it as well*

Harry Reid: Raciss prosonpagnosia with a soupcon of inappropriate priapism. Perhaps that is why he hides behind the podium! Viagra overdose caused the concussion and black eye! It is all making sense now...

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Redneck Queen at March 05, 2014 11:31 AM (baL2B)

340 MWR, she must have us confused with Marge Sanger and Friends.

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 11:31 AM (nqBYe)

341 Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 03:30 PM (aDwsi) His incompetence is dangerous. This is the SoS FFS.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 05, 2014 11:32 AM (A98Xu)

342 last call for nood!

Posted by: soothsayer at March 05, 2014 11:32 AM (W6Jq2)

343 Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 03:27 PM (x3YFz) Getting campus carry legalized, even at elementary schools, is pretty much my mission in life. Webb is way out of line on that and the other things you flagged.

Posted by: stace at March 05, 2014 11:32 AM (9PXzx)

344 I remember that. Nearly every fucking dogshit thing the JEF does has it's roots in Slick's presidency. Anybody who thinks that rednosed predator looking like Bob Barker with STDs was anything less than a clusterfuck for the country is a moron of the wrong kind. Posted by: Captain Hate --------------------------- They day that guy was elected, I knew that we were in serious trouble. Of course, the diversion caused by Perot was the root cause..., IMHO.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:33 AM (aDwsi)

345 Getting campus carry legalized, even at elementary schools, is pretty much my mission in life. Webb is way out of line on that and the other things you flagged. Posted by: stace ---------- Received a hysteria-ridden note from a Liberal friend about carry being approved for Idaho campuses. I could sense the hand-wringing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 11:35 AM (aDwsi)

346 Thank you panzernashorn for that.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 11:35 AM (H+glR)

347 What a completely worthless piece of shit Hagan is. I honestly would have expected a no from her. I guess that makes me an idiot. Happens time to time...

-C

Posted by: Cnation at March 05, 2014 11:36 AM (cZAvD)

348 Coons is the guy that beat O'Donnell in Delaware. How would Castle have voted?

Yeah, just asking for another flame war...

Posted by: Frank Black at March 05, 2014 11:37 AM (YmPwQ)

349 They day that guy was elected, I knew that we were in serious trouble. Of course, the diversion caused by Perot was the root cause..., IMHO.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 03:33 PM (aDwsi)

Total agreement on that. The *wildly popular* Slick never got 50% of the popular vote, even against the inept Poppy Bush and Bob Dole.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 05, 2014 11:38 AM (xowO9)

350 Received a hysteria-ridden note from a Liberal friend about carry being approved for Idaho campuses. I could sense the hand-wringing. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 03:35 PM (aDwsi) LOL! We can CC on campus here in CO. A few times while teaching, for comfort, I've removed my sidearm in class and placed it on the podium. Kids don't even blink. Heck, I think several of them carry.

Posted by: tangonine at March 05, 2014 11:38 AM (x3YFz)

351 318 T9; you left off the "get a permit for anything up to anti-tank weapon bullshit. Otherwise, spot on.

Posted by: AnthonyB at March 05, 2014 11:39 AM (PDTch)

352 275?
prescient11?

Lifelong Episcopalian here. When the church went away from simple tolerance to pushing the Ghey junk, I walked away.

Posted by: backhoe at March 05, 2014 11:39 AM (ULH4o)

353 310 >>> Saint-Denis, France is the site of the Nelson Mandela (football) stadium. The boulevard leading to it is named "Mumia Abu Jamal Boulevard" in his honor. Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 03:21 PM (i1vov) You forgot to add *SPIT* to the end of that Posted by: L, elle Pardon. J'irai cracher sur Mumia.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 05, 2014 11:40 AM (LDdOY)

354 Received a hysteria-ridden note from a Liberal friend about carry being approved for Idaho campuses. I could sense the hand-wringing. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 03:35 PM (aDwsi) Screw that. My position is based on the fact that I was attacked just off campus back in my college days, and that I'm the mother of a student. I have the Moral Authoriteh. Anyone who's against campus carry is in favor of rape and in favor of keeping students defenseless in the face of attacks on schools.

Posted by: stace at March 05, 2014 11:42 AM (9PXzx)

355

Backhoe:

Yep. Behold the churches of Europe. When you dance around the plain English of the Bible and deny its holy nature, you are done. End of story.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 05, 2014 11:42 AM (tVTLU)

356 176
Serious question, I haven't been keep up with everything hateful that there is to hate. Is there reason to hate Abdegile other than that he defended a cop killer?
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 05, 2014 02:55 PM (A0sHn)

_____

I don't know anything about him. But what are the odds he's not a left wing fucknut? Only a left wing fucknut would be Mumia's lawyer.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 05, 2014 11:46 AM (0LHZx)

357 You know how they seem to tag the whole Republican party with idiotic statements by a few weirdos (Akin)? How about a 'War on Cops' campaign against these scum. Post pictures of the crime scene in front of their houses, whatever it takes.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 05, 2014 11:47 AM (9Bdcz)

358

>>Its a new snack food: Bird-on-a-stick

.Is that like Monkey on a Stick? Because that was pretty good in the Philippines.

Posted by: Registered Voter at March 05, 2014 11:47 AM (kYfFr)

359 343?
Mike?

Yeah, Clinton was when I knew it was over for America. O'bumfuck is just icing on the cake....

Posted by: backhoe at March 05, 2014 12:41 PM (ULH4o)

360 Coons is running this year; he's in Joey Choo-Choo's old seat.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 05, 2014 01:22 PM (7A2Iv)

361 What were Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan thinking? That they don't have a ghost of a chance of retaining their seats, so they can start voting any way they want.

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at March 05, 2014 01:56 PM (/EkKm)

362 prescient11: Behold the churches of Europe. When you dance around the plain English of the Bible and deny its holy nature

I also find Shakespeare better in its original Klingon.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 05, 2014 03:34 PM (30eLQ)

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