March 17, 2014

Rangers Confront Man Wearing Nonsensical Uniform and Tabs Identifying Him as a Ranger
— Ace

Not sure myself what the truth is here, but the man accused of falsely wearing a Ranger tab eventually takes it off. He doesn't seem to have many answers to the actual Ranger's questions.

The man (who is unidentified) was wearing the uniform on the campus San Joaquin Delta College. It's unclear why he was wearing the uniform; I don't see from this video that he was taking part in an anti-war protest or that sort of a thing.

He's confronted by a Ranger and another veteran who note that his uniform makes no sense (pointing out, for example, that the guy's 75th Rangers tab doesn't go with a 101st division tab:

“You do realize that the 101st is not a Ranger unit?” someone offscreen adds. “You do realize that the 101st is not an E.O.D. unit?”

I may have gotten the details of their argument wrong because I'm pretty clueless about military units and such.

Content warning for yelled expletiives.


Thanks to nevergiveup.

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1
I wish people would confront our fake president the same way.  :/

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 17, 2014 02:36 PM (0IhFx)

2 He's actually a member of my 5th Progressive Keyboard Rangers, you haters! Check your comment threads!

Posted by: Marcos the Kos at March 17, 2014 02:36 PM (DLu2s)

3 Oh yeah, and numbah one, babee!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 17, 2014 02:37 PM (0IhFx)

4
Fake soldier reminds me of the car salesman in "True Lies".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 17, 2014 02:39 PM (0Kobm)

5 I want, nay, demand, you remove that "monkey orchid" pic from the sidebar.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:39 PM (xSfiX)

6 Yeah I brought this up earlier. The give away is that he doesn't have his ID card. Those of us in the Military panic when we don't have it on us. And yes he is suppose to have it. Plus he doesn't have his cover or any idea where it is. And his patches 101st and EOD don't make sense.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 02:39 PM (nzKvP)

7 he is telling this stolen valor asshat that there is no EOD unit in the 101st. Explosive Ordinance Unit. He tells him he isn't wearing his hat yet he is outdoors. That's a no go, He does not have his ID on him. Also a no go. Guy is a fucking fake an he is wearing the uniform. This happens All. The. Time. Go to This Ain't Hell its there personal mission to out these fucking frauds

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:40 PM (zOTsN)

8 Was the guy even really in the military at all?

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 02:40 PM (Xs26g)

9 I can hear some chanting. Maybe he's taking a break from protesting or something. Also, for a guy in uniform and that young, he's got kind of a gut on him.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (xSegX)

10 Incidentally, EOD is an acronym for every other day, applied to taking meds.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (xSfiX)

11 That's right you punk. Go hide behind your sisters.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (08Znv)

12 Just a Ranger? Were they outta SEAL stuff at the Army-Navy store?

Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (yv+63)

13 Was the guy even really in the military at all?

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 06:40 PM (Xs26g)

 

not the Army aparently

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (q+zA9)

14 Was he an  Arctic Battalion Commander?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (BAS5M)

15 I've seen this happening before...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (IXrOn)

16 He's wearing a Ranger tab, which is what you get once you pass Ranger school. The 75th Ranger Regiment are actual Rangers. It's sort of like getting a degree in astrophysics and getting a job in law. You are a paralegal not a astrophysicist. I hope that was as clear as mud.

Posted by: Jason at March 17, 2014 02:41 PM (SDDV4)

17 They actually passed a law punishing these fake soldiers and the assholes at the supreme court killed it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 17, 2014 02:42 PM (T2V/1)

18 their personal mission gaw I hate these fake guys. They show up at parades, protests, cemetaries, VFWs, American Legions, VA hospitals, you name it Its disgusting

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:42 PM (zOTsN)

19 How come nobody fakes that they were in the Coast Guard?

Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2014 02:42 PM (yv+63)

20 Explosive Ordnance Disposal?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:42 PM (xSfiX)

21 Once I was back home at a bar in Chicago with two friends who were stationed with me In walks an obvious booter from Great Lakes in his blues Wearing a trident I was stationed at SBU5 Yeah, my two friends were SEALs It was ugly

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 02:43 PM (SMP3h)

22 This man is a disgrace.

Posted by: John Kerry at March 17, 2014 02:43 PM (UAMVq)

23 AF calls explosive ordinance guys EOD. I don't think Army does. I think this asshole got a uniform and some patches on Ebay and threw it together its disgusting

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:44 PM (zOTsN)

24

How come nobody fakes that they were in the Coast Guard?

Cooties.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 17, 2014 02:44 PM (0Kobm)

25

C'mon...lighten up. Nothing a little ass whippin won't rectify.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 17, 2014 02:44 PM (z+Xap)

26 Civilian pleads not guilty to wearing Navy medals By Alan Duke, CNN November 12, 2009 5:16 p.m. EST Stolen valor: Stamford man charged with wearing unearned military markings Jeff Morganteen, Staff Writer Published 10:08 pm, Thursday, April 22, 201 Accused Marine faker ‘deeply sorry' Dec. 20, 2012 - 04:36PM | Last Updated: Dec. 20, 2012 - 04:36PM etc... seems to be a thing

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 02:44 PM (IXrOn)

27 Maybe the guy was one of the Village People.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2014 02:44 PM (8ZskC)

28 The SOTUS upheld the man's right to be a fake soldier

Posted by: Dobie Gillis at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (e8kgV)

29 AF calls explosive ordinance guys EOD. I don't think Army does. I think this asshole got a uniform and some patches on Ebay and threw it together its disgusting Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 06:44 PM (zOTsN) Navy calls them EOD also. Not sure what the Army does

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (nzKvP)

30 Being totally clueless here - I think between the two, I'd believe the guy calling him out. That's an easy call. Don't know why he's getting protected other than the students doing it know who he is and why.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (pgQxn)

31

How come nobody fakes that they were in the Coast Guard?

 

 

It's like how   no one with  a "past life"  was ever  just an ordinary person.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (BAS5M)

32 2 options 1. The dude is sick in the head 2. He was trying to get chicks

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (0LHZx)

33 Leave the peace-loving Ranger alone, you H8ers!!1!

It's over!!

Posted by: Campus Lefty Douchebag at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (/AHDz)

34 he does not even know that the uniform cap is called a "cover" this guy was not even a boy scout

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (zOTsN)

35 Everyone remembers John Roberts' horrific and unconstitutional decision on obamacare in June 2012, but Roberts blew 2 other cases at the time, as well. Besides obamacare, Roberts made a terrible opinion (and deciding) opinion on Stolen Valor. I can't remember the 3rd Court case Roberts wiffed on in June 2012, but it was a biggie.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (xSfiX)

36 The most galling part?  The complete ignorance of the non-vet students that are saying " what's the big deal?"  " leave him alone".. " you made your point".   They have no concept of the earning of the uniform, the pride in service, the complete shaming that a fake should receive.

The only thing that would have made this worse is the arrival of campus police and them taking the phony's side and telling the outraged veterans to shut up.\\   wow.  This pisses me off.

Posted by: Yip at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (/jHWN)

37 25. Sent Saturday Sorry for the delay I blame tonya

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (SMP3h)

38 How come nobody fakes that they were in the Coast Guard? Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2014 06:42 PM (yv+63) This is how wars start.

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Seroquel Embiggins No Penis) at March 17, 2014 02:45 PM (GeVLX)

39 The Loyal Order of Moose and Squirrel Ribbon should have given up the game.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2014 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

40 28 The SOTUS upheld the man's right to be a fake soldier

There's so much fixin' to do in this Country, where to start?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 17, 2014 02:46 PM (pgQxn)

41

I know 2 guys with Ranger tabs.

 

Real great peeps

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at March 17, 2014 02:46 PM (q+zA9)

42 “(Vieira) approached him on several occasions and verbally went after him,” said Delta police officer Jim Bock . “He’s been counseled on each occasion to stop. There are proper ways to handle these issues.”

Proper way? A severe fucking beating would be proper.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 17, 2014 02:46 PM (IV4od)

43 . Plus he doesn't have his cover or any idea where it is. And his patches 101st and EOD don't make sense. Maybe he's wearing one of those new transgendered uniforms, where they take a piece from over there, drop a piece from over here, and just generally mix up all the parts.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 17, 2014 02:46 PM (oMKp3)

44 Yeah, Roberts didn't just shit the bed on obamacare, (as if he was being extorted), there were two more cases Roberts fucked us on.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:46 PM (xSfiX)

45 Once you make your point, you should shut up and stop exposing our lies and fraud!1!

Posted by: Campus Lefty Douchebag at March 17, 2014 02:47 PM (/AHDz)

46 AF calls explosive ordinance guys EOD. I don't think Army does. I think this asshole got a uniform and some patches on Ebay and threw it together

its disgusting
Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 06:44 PM (zOTsN)


Navy calls them EOD also. Not sure what the Army does

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 06:45 PM (nzKvP)



EOD for the Army, too (MOS 89D), but I've only seen them wear the EOD patch downrange, not in CONUS.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 02:47 PM (r/e1Q)

47 Roberts didn't "fuck us." He "grew in office." There's a difference.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2014 02:47 PM (8ZskC)

48 32. Three options 3. He's a piece of shit loser who isn't man enough to earn a qualification and should have been ass stomped all over that campus

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 02:47 PM (SMP3h)

49

The last time I was in an 'Army Surplus' type store...there were bins of assorted patches for sale.

 

It's been years though, since I was there.

I hope they don't do that any more.

 

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 02:48 PM (Xs26g)

50 This man is a disgrace.

 

Posted by: John Kerry at March 17, 2014 06:43 PM (UAMVq)

 

 

Worse.  He's a G-D disgrace.  Worthless and weak  (like you, ketchup boy).  Now drop and give me twenty!

Posted by: Doug Neidermeyer at March 17, 2014 02:48 PM (BAS5M)

51 "Besides obamacare, Roberts made a terrible opinion (and deciding) opinion on Stolen Valor. I can't remember the 3rd Court case Roberts wiffed on in June 2012, but it was a biggie."
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It's all Tax to me!

Posted by: John Roberts at March 17, 2014 02:48 PM (/AHDz)

52 Army calls 'em EOD too.  My brother was a Green Beret, and this kind of stuff pisses me off royally. 

Posted by: no good deed at March 17, 2014 02:48 PM (vBhbc)

53 >>@1 I wish people would confront our fake president the same way. Thread-winner right out of the gate.

Posted by: Y-not at March 17, 2014 02:48 PM (zDsvJ)

54 It's kind of sad, but it's a lot like the number of "rangers" I run into around the country on my travels. THe macro level of math don't add up, but what can you do and who am I? I mean anyone who raises that right hand at all is part of the 1.5% IMHO and worthy of some respect. I love the SOCOM guys, but would never dream of bogarting their accolades. People who are tempted to do so should read up on Roger's Rangers and the price they paid.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 02:48 PM (TE35l)

55 >>> They have no concept of the earning of the uniform, the pride in service, the complete shaming that a fake should receive. It's not like claiming to be in the Justin Beiber fan club but not paying the dues. It takes a great deal of dedication to become a Ranger.

Posted by: fluffy at March 17, 2014 02:48 PM (Ua6T/)

56 I bet the campus cop would give a shit if someone started walking around in uniform pretending to be a campus cop but then Nobody pretends to be a campus cop

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:49 PM (zOTsN)

57 Hey, it was that hippie retard's turn to pretend to be a soldier at the protest ...

Posted by: Kristophr at March 17, 2014 02:49 PM (c6N69)

58 47 Roberts didn't "fuck us." He "grew in office." There's a difference.

There certainly is! I grew in the office too!

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 17, 2014 02:49 PM (pgQxn)

59 The ones I hate the most are the posers loudly running their mouths (usually to impress the ladies) in public. Corner them and let them know their boostings are "not appreciated" by those who did serve.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 17, 2014 02:49 PM (h6cl2)

60 The lack of a cover and actually knowing what the term is is a dead givaway

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at March 17, 2014 02:49 PM (q+zA9)

61 Wasn't our own Doc Manhattan was going to army eod training ? If he's around he could enlighten us .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (whqez)

62 Did this guy happen to wear a raspberry beret? That's a dead giveaway.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (xSfiX)

63 There was an Army Chaplain that worked with a bunch of special operators who got caught wearing the ribbons of medals he hadn't earned.  When called out on it he offered the lame excuse that he had to do that because he was working with special operators and they only respect people who have earned a bunch of medals.

The same guy ran a crooked drivers education company.  His drivers weren't certified and when inspectors came around he told them to claim they were people they were not.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (P7Wsr)

64 How come nobody fakes that they were in the Coast Guard?
Posted by: tu3031

Actually there has been some fakes -  guys claiming that they were Aviation Survivalist a la Kevin Costner and bragging about their sea exploits and how many lives they saved.

Cheri = veteran Coastie

Posted by: Cheri at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (VDGzf)

65 42>> Concur. Followed by pissing on him.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (z+Xap)

66 And standing around with his hand in his pocket? Noooooo.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (0IhFx)

67 This guy is obviously part of TFG's well funded, well equipped paramilitary force. They'll eventually get their unit insignia squared away too.

Posted by: EC at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (doBIb)

68 Nobody pretends to be a campus cop

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 06:49 PM (zOTsN)



Not a campus cop, but...run a search for "Gecko45" sometime.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (r/e1Q)

69 Where's your cover?  You are out of doors, where's your cover?  "Well, I had my sunglasses on earlier."  Yeah, way to go G.I. Jerk. 

Posted by: no good deed at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (vBhbc)

70 1 Sticky Wicket, Geeral Manly Throw McMomJeans IV hero of hole 19 CO of the 69th Course Invaders is frosty.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 02:50 PM (TE35l)

71 Wait, they're charging the man who confronted him with a crime? stop the world and let me off.

Posted by: Lauren at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (hFL/3)

72 It's pretty stupid that someone would do this. But what do you want, this guy to go to jail for acting like an asshole?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (0LHZx)

73 17 They actually passed a law punishing these fake soldiers and the assholes at the supreme court killed it. Posted by: Vic at March 17, 2014 06:42 PM (T2V/1) They need to be ridiculed and lose their jobs, not thrown in jail.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (E8IHS)

74 God help us. Crimean P.M. mocks Obama in faked Russian uniform on Twitter http://tinyurl.com/lpqy9fr

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (IXrOn)

75 It's like a fake walking around in a Hell's Angels jacket. Without all the stabbery

Posted by: The Hobo Wears Prada (Seroquel Embiggins No Penis) at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (GeVLX)

76 >>> Proper way? A severe fucking beating would be proper. Or PT until he starts bawling.

Posted by: fluffy at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (Ua6T/)

77 "Did this guy happen to wear a raspberry beret? That's a dead giveaway."
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He better not!

Posted by: Prince at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (/AHDz)

78 62>> The kind that you buy at a second hand store?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (z+Xap)

79 ture never never never put hands in pockets

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (zOTsN)

80
Vieira, who uploaded video of the confrontation to YouTube, was later arrested by campus authorities for confronting the man in military clothing. He was reportedly charged with disturbing the peace and making threats against the man.

“(Vieira) approached him on several occasions and verbally went after him,” Delta police officer Jim Bock told KXTV. “He’s been counseled on each occasion to stop. There are proper ways to handle these issues.”

According to authorities, the man in military clothing insists he served. Further, they told KXTV that it is not illegal to wear a uniform as long as the intent while doing so is not to obtain certain benefits.



Uniform boy is right. And Vierira seems like a ticking time bomb.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (kdS6q)

81 19 How come nobody fakes that they were in the Coast Guard? Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2014 06:42 PM (yv+63) You never see anybody faking that they are in the FSA, either, because their "ID", the EBT card, is pure platinum, baby!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 17, 2014 02:51 PM (HsTG8)

82 And he still can't get laid, I'll bet.

Posted by: spd rdr at March 17, 2014 02:52 PM (+fXXA)

83

Content warning for yelled expletiives.

 

It's so cute that Ace warns us about cuss words.

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 02:52 PM (Xs26g)

84 64. Cheri = veteran Coastie Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 02:52 PM (SMP3h)

85 68 Country Singer, Dear Guns & Ammo Forum I've been wondering what level of tactical armor is proper for the shower? Gekko45

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 02:52 PM (TE35l)

86 And he still can't get laid, I'll bet. Posted by: spd rdr at March 17, 2014 06:52 PM (+fXXA) or have sammiches made for him by a pretty lady

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 02:52 PM (IXrOn)

87 fat butterball thought that sunglasses was "cover" no way he ever served in anything ever

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:53 PM (zOTsN)

88 I saw on 48 Hours or Dateline or one of those shows that there was some guy in Northern California who shot up some vandals and claimed his Ranger training sent him into that kill-or-be-killed mode.  Everyone who knew him, knew about his Rangerness.  Only in court it came out that he was never a Ranger.  He lied.  He also got sent to prison.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 17, 2014 02:53 PM (6H6o8)

89 12 Just a Ranger? Were they outta SEAL stuff at the Army-Navy store? Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2014 06:41 PM (yv+63) or estate sale (Remember Obama's garage sale laws imposing what may and may not be sold to the public early his administration onset.)

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 17, 2014 02:54 PM (MhA4j)

90 In the it's a strange world department the only Ranger I know is an Hispanic Lesbian.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 17, 2014 02:54 PM (DL2i+)

91 Uniform boy is not right

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:54 PM (zOTsN)

92 And Vierira seems like a ticking time bomb.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 06:51 PM (kdS6q)

 

I doubt that

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at March 17, 2014 02:54 PM (q+zA9)

93 Making it illegal to claim military service when none exists even dumber than the flag burning laws.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 02:54 PM (0LHZx)

94 We have quite a few busy intersections near and around Boston where bums go and stand in traffic with their hands out for free $$. It's a scam. A few of them hold their carefully-crafted poorly scribbled cardboard signs explaining how they're former Viet Nam or Iraq vets. Up until a few years I used to feel sorry for these people and sometimes give them $$. That was, until, I realized it was a scam. Today, I pretend I'm reaching in my pocket for $$ and instead I pull out my middle finger. And laugh.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:54 PM (xSfiX)

95 The SOTUS upheld the man's right to be a fake soldier Posted by: Dobie Gillis at March 17, 2014 06:45 PM (e8kgV) Free speech sadly means people have the right to be assholes. (While I agree this is fraud, fraud itself is not illegal in all cases.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 17, 2014 02:54 PM (a8eFL)

96
AF calls explosive ordinance guys EOD. I don't think Army does. I think this asshole got a uniform and some patches on Ebay and threw it together

its disgusting

The army refers to them as EOD. Most posts have a few hanging around. When I was stationed at Ft. Ord, we had to call on them to help us get rid of the Rusty Shotgun, that someone found while we were policing up after a field exercise.

Very long, and strange story, but I'm convinced that now, twenty years after the fact, there exists in some arms room, somewhere in the U.S., under lock and key, a padded envelope containing about 8 ounces of blown up rusty shotgun bits.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 17, 2014 02:55 PM (0IhFx)

97 The guy is so ignorant of basic Military bearing that I doubt he was in the Military or maybe he washed out. And then there are those that have served but want to embellish their service, which I can't understand. For me it's an Honor enough just to serve as a Staff Officer in the rear with the gear and to take care of the heroes who go out and do the real work.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 02:55 PM (nzKvP)

98 Jrotc friend of the kid's gets medals off eBay all the time. Looks like a third world dictator. So we call him Idi Amin. Always in trouble for wearing fake stuff. Going to West Point next year though.

Posted by: NCKate at March 17, 2014 02:55 PM (y7PFk)

99 88 I saw on 48 Hours or Dateline or one of those shows that there was some guy in Northern California who shot up some vandals and claimed his Ranger training sent him into that kill-or-be-killed mode. Everyone who knew him, knew about his Rangerness. Only in court it came out that he was never a Ranger. He lied. He also got sent to prison. Posted by: kathysaysso at March 17, 2014 06:53 PM (6H6o _________ I remember that one. Dude was insane. But as you said nobody ever question his credentials.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 02:55 PM (0LHZx)

100 According to authorities, the man in military clothing insists he served. Further, they told KXTV that it is not illegal to wear a uniform as long as the intent while doing so is not to obtain certain benefits.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 06:51 PM (kdS6q)



The whole point of wearing the uniform for guys like that is to get free shit or chicks...which pretty much amounts to "benefits." And I don't care how much he "insists he served" he needs to produce a DD214.  And even if he did, he's in violation of Army regs by the manner in which he was wearing the uniform.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 02:56 PM (r/e1Q)

101 No, I want your wife or girlfriend to be stopped by someone pretending to be law enforcement. You can Bing/Google 'Amy Willard Philadelphia' to see what happens next. Posted by: Ugg Boots at March 17, 2014 06:55 PM (oGrEy) _______________ You're beyond imbecilic if you equate the two.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 02:56 PM (0LHZx)

102 I wanted to buy some Army Ranger sweats at a PX once because I thought they'd look cool when I went running.  My Dad told me I might run into some guys who were upset I was wearing their symbols and talked me out of it.

I honestly wasn't going to pretend to be anything, but it was good to know how it might look.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 02:56 PM (P7Wsr)

103 But, seriously, you guys... The Democrats are fortunate that the president is younger, he's hipper, heÂ’s into cultural references. He can do shtick like -- he can do shtick that can bring millions of hits on videos. You know, he's into Justin Bieber numbers here on this one particular video If I had a President, he would be, like, Justin Bieber numbers, man. newsbusters

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 02:56 PM (IXrOn)

104 Moo Moo and Laurie David's Cervix go to This Aint Hell guys that engage in Stolen Valor also have a propensity to commit financial fraud and using the uniform to gain trust and access you lie about that, you lie about everything

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 02:56 PM (zOTsN)

105 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 06:54 PM (0LHZx)


You never disappoint.

Posted by: some guy at March 17, 2014 02:57 PM (2DunM)

106 The army needs their very own SCPO Shipley to call these fuckers out If you don't know who he is go to YouTube It's great fun hearing the crying

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 02:57 PM (SMP3h)

107 I used to own a Ford Ranger. It was green, too. Does that count as military service?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 02:57 PM (xSfiX)

108 I would have demanded that the shithead take the blouse off, rip it in half, I would have threatened to beat the shit out of him as I cut the laces from his boots.  I would have given him the clearest, non-violent, take-away that what he was doing was not only offensive, it was shameful and deserving of a severe beating.   That he should really reflect on his desire to pretend and that dressing up as some things are not like the other.

Fireman? ok
Cop?  not ok
lab tech?  ok
vet in uniform?  not ok
uniform with faked tabs/medals?  not ok
Coast Guard Admiral?  They have Admirals?  OK!

Posted by: Yip at March 17, 2014 02:57 PM (/jHWN)

109 We Are All Rangers Now.

Posted by: Newsweek at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (Aif/5)

110 Here is another story about this confrontation from two days ago that quotes a Guard reservist student at the school, Nicholas Teausant, as saying about the incident: "Until you've gone through basic training and had a drill sergeant yelling at you, doing pushups and losing blood, sweat and tears, and you're missing your girlfriend and family, you have no business wearing that uniform." http://tinyurl.com/p2pu343 But today, thereÂ’s THIS article, with the same person who was quoted, Nicholas Teausant, as being arrested at the U.S.-Canada border in Washington for allegedly trying to aid al-Qaida in a plot to attack a Southland subway: http://tinyurl.com/oeggpfe This seems mighty odd to be a coincidence. Does this traitor Teausant have ties to the poser?

Posted by: Elinor at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (95xxa)

111 Making it illegal to claim military service when none exists even dumber than the flag burning laws.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 06:54 PM (0LHZx)



Oh, so you don't mind your tax dollars going to pay for unearned VA benefits for assholes who never served?  You don't mind these people scamming charities and individuals based on fraudulent service?

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (r/e1Q)

112 I bet he wears pj's his mom gave him for Christmas.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (IXrOn)

113 You can Bing/Google 'Amy Willard Philadelphia' to see what happens next. Posted by: Ugg Boots at March 17, 2014 06:55 PM (oGrEy) If the boy soldier tried to arrest someone I'd agree. But he didn't.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (E8IHS)

114 guys that engage in Stolen Valor also have a propensity to commit financial fraud and using the uniform to gain trust and access you lie about that, you lie about everything Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 06:56 PM (zOTsN) _________ People do the same by pretending to have played pro sports or pretend to know famous people or be movie producers or directors or about a 1000 other things. Are you going to throw everyone in jail who tells a woman he's someone he's not in order to get into her pants?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (0LHZx)

115 You were/are a Coastie Cheri? Thank you for your service. That goes for the rest of you lanyard grease fetchin' morons too.

Posted by: teej-who must be doing pretty much everything wrong at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (QbKVX)

116 73 17 They actually passed a law punishing these fake soldiers and the assholes at the supreme court killed it.
Posted by: Vic at March 17, 2014 06:42 PM (T2V/1)

They need to be ridiculed and lose their jobs, not thrown in jail.
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 17, 2014 06:51 PM (E8IHS)

The First Amendment gives you a right to bullshit. However if you attempt to obtain money or services based on your BS, that's fraud and will get you thrown in jail.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 17, 2014 02:58 PM (pAlYe)

117 Oh, so you don't mind your tax dollars going to pay for unearned VA benefits for assholes who never served? You don't mind these people scamming charities and individuals based on fraudulent service? Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 06:58 PM (r/e1Q) If they are scamming benefits that's *already* illegal. Don't need a new law for that.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 17, 2014 02:59 PM (E8IHS)

118 Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 06:57 PM (SMP3h)



This Ain't Hell has an entire Stolen Valor tournament every year, complete with brackets.  They bust them all the time, often in conjunction with Shipley.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 02:59 PM (r/e1Q)

119 The coasties can't catch a break , what with all the shallow water sailors and shit . Truth is , they spend more time at sea than the navy . My A school QM instructor was a coast guardsman . Really sharp dude . Another friend was a coast guardsmen from Alaska . They had to double as quartermasters and signalmen . Anyone that thinks duty on a buoy tender in Alaskan waters is easy is a goddam fool .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 17, 2014 02:59 PM (whqez)

120 I could tell you that I'm your long lost son. That's not a crime. If I start taking money from you under those pretenses it probably is.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 17, 2014 02:59 PM (E8IHS)

121 I wonder how many free coffee's he scammed in Uniform?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 02:59 PM (nzKvP)

122 And then there are those that have served but want to embellish their service, which I can't understand. For me it's an Honor enough just to serve as a Staff Officer in the rear with the gear and to take care of the heroes who go out and do the real work.

I know an awesome guy who has the worst Gulf War syndrome effects.  He served in the mail room during the first gulf war.  Poor guy has permanent visible tremors and is mentally incapacitated. 

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 03:00 PM (P7Wsr)

123 64. Cheri = veteran Coastie

Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Posted by: Navycopjoe



Ok Squid-CopJoe......it's you and me outside in the internet parking lot at 1700 hours!  

Posted by: Cheri at March 17, 2014 03:00 PM (VDGzf)

124 "This seems mighty odd to be a coincidence. Does this traitor Teausant have ties to the poser? " Well that's...an unexpected turn of events.

Posted by: Lauren at March 17, 2014 03:00 PM (hFL/3)

125 you lie about that, you lie about everything Do you know why I love Latin? Because, evidently, the Latinese thought of a neat phrase for just about everything. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 03:00 PM (xSfiX)

126 Hey, if US Senator from CT, Blumenthal can get away with stealing valor, why can't some California nutter do the same? Let's apply equal standards here ace. Posted by: Unit 1B at March 17, 2014 07:00 PM (Cs2tJ) Well you got a point there, and could he be worse than the 2 broads from CA?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (nzKvP)

127 I ain't seen nothing since I stepped on that landmine in Vietnam. It was very painful.

I was in...Sang Bang... Dang Gong... I was all over the place, a lot of places.

I was with the Green Berets, Special Unit Battalions...  Commando Airborne Tactics... Specialist Tactics Unit Battalion.
       
Yeah, it was real hush hush.

I was Agent Orange, Special Agent Orange, that was me.

Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (Q6pxP)

128
Uniform boy is not right
Posted by: thunderb



Not illegal to wear military gear, else every Army Navy surplus store would be out of business.  There are no sumptuary laws for general street wear unless you're trying to use a uniform in an official capacity,

It is illegal to state on a job application as such that you have veteran status if you didn't serve.

Uncool is not illegal. 

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (kdS6q)

129 Elizabeth Warren, the Cherokee, says what's wrong with this?

Posted by: JHW at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (a6SQ5)

130 Today, I pretend I'm reaching in my pocket for $$ and instead I pull out my middle finger. And laugh.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 06:54 PM (xSfiX)


You're supposed to pull out your skinning knife and start slicing away at those hobos - what kind of lazy slacker are you?

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (6H6o8)

131 Oh, so you don't mind your tax dollars going to pay for unearned VA benefits for assholes who never served? You don't mind these people scamming charities and individuals based on fraudulent service? Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 06:58 PM (r/e1Q) ___________ When did I say I didn't mind? I said if someone is simply wearing a uniform, it's free speech. If he then takes it to the next level to defraud someone else, it's fraud and criminal. Surely you can see the difference in the two acts?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (0LHZx)

132 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 06:58 PM (0LHZx) You know, I'm a pretty patient person in most cases. But I gotta say, I am really tired of your shtick. You do nothing but attempt to aggravate people. Every single day, you are here trying to stir up trouble. Why are you here? And when are you leaving?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (oMKp3)

133 You're beyond imbecilic if you equate the two.

 

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 06:56 PM (0LHZx)

 

 

Redo those buttons! Dress that belt buckle! Straighten that cap! And goddamn it, tuck up those pajamas! Attention! Eyes front! What's that on your chest, mister?

Posted by: Doug Neidermeyer at March 17, 2014 03:01 PM (BAS5M)

134 117. The first amendment won't save you from severely pissed off rangers though

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:02 PM (SMP3h)

135 I know an awesome guy who has the worst Gulf War syndrome effects. He served in the mail room during the first gulf war. Poor guy has permanent visible tremors and is mentally incapacitated. Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2014 07:00 PM (P7Wsr) Well in these 2 "Wars" we are/where there really is no real rear, just some better protected fOBs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:02 PM (nzKvP)

136 127

Well you got a point there, and could he be worse than the 2 broads from CA?

See, you get it.

Posted by: Unit 1B at March 17, 2014 03:02 PM (Cs2tJ)

137 Top o' the evening to all of you!  I'm off to take care of my terrible thirst.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 17, 2014 03:03 PM (6H6o8)

138 120. ?!!!! I call bullshit on that one

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:03 PM (SMP3h)

139

101...The whole point of wearing the uniform for guys like that is to get free shit or chicks...which pretty much amounts to "benefits."

 

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 06:56 PM (r/e1Q)

 

--------

 

Wearing it for 'political optics' is also a "benefit"....propaganda benefit.

 

Like when liberals have some guy in fatigues with them, to give credence to what they're pushing.

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 03:03 PM (Xs26g)

140 Someone with time on their hands should walk follow this guy around with a sign with an arrow pointing at the poser saying something like "FAKE SOLDIER"

That would be a nice way to spend a day....

Posted by: DishofRed at March 17, 2014 03:03 PM (Dmq63)

141 You know, I'm a pretty patient person in most cases. But I gotta say, I am really tired of your shtick. You do nothing but attempt to aggravate people. Every single day, you are here trying to stir up trouble. Why are you here? And when are you leaving? Posted by: grammie winger at March 17, 2014 07:01 PM (oMKp3) _______ When I read stupid shit like saying someone should go to jail for wearing the wrong buttons on a military uniform, I'll speak out. If you don't like it, don't read what I have to say.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:03 PM (0LHZx)

142 135 117. The first amendment won't save you from severely pissed off rangers though
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 07:02 PM (SMP3h)

True. And I wouldn't convict if some real vets gave the fake soldier a little physical discouragement.

Posted by: Mætenloch at March 17, 2014 03:04 PM (pAlYe)

143
I want your wife or girlfriend to be stopped by someone pretending to be law enforcement.
Posted by: Ugg Boots




Lord, if you can't seen the difference between the two situations...


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 03:04 PM (kdS6q)

144

A little young looking to be to be an E-8, and even more remarkable for an alleged E-8 Ranger, he is also a slick sleeve on the right.

Probably it is all cover for his real MOS of Space Shuttle Door Gunner.

Posted by: The Party of Science ! at March 17, 2014 03:04 PM (uN4Ye)

145 Not illegal to wear military gear, else every Army Navy surplus store would be out of business. There are no sumptuary laws for general street wear unless you're trying to use a uniform in an official capacity, It is illegal to state on a job application as such that you have veteran status if you didn't serve. Uncool is not illegal. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix please show me where I said it was illegal I said it was not right and disgusting its not

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:04 PM (zOTsN)

146 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:01 PM (0LHZx)



IMO, wearing the uniform outside of performing a role (e.g. stage or screen) and in public while having never served is fraud.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:04 PM (r/e1Q)

147 124. You may kick my virtual butt but ill like it!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:04 PM (SMP3h)

148 Why not go big--and dress up like an astronaut?

Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 03:04 PM (RJMhd)

149 "We have quite a few busy intersections near and around Boston where bums go and stand in traffic with their hands out for free $$. It's a scam. A few of them hold their carefully-crafted poorly scribbled cardboard signs explaining how they're former Viet Nam or Iraq vets."

Flashback. Late Eighties. Foggy night in San Francisco.

Young guy is panhandling on the corner. Has a sign. "VIETNAM VETERAN." And a ratty old green fatigue jacket.

Roll on up. "Wow, man, you were in The Nam? Wild."

Guy spins me a spiel about how deep in the shit he had been.

"So how old are you?"

He blurts out "22" and then realizes he just stepped on his dick.

"So you were at Khe Sanh while you were just out of diapers. You ARE a a total bad-ass motherfucker! Hey, tell you what. Back down the block where I was drinking? There are some guys at the bar who are for-real Vietnam vets. Why don't you just wait right here while I go get them."

You've never seen someone evaporate so fast.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2014 03:05 PM (gqT4g)

150 I said if someone is simply wearing a uniform, it's free speech. If he then takes it to the next level to defraud someone else, it's fraud and criminal.

He seems to be attempting to lend authority to a protest by claiming to be military.  Does that reach the level of fraud yet?  And if he's trying to use that authority to get donations or signatures, is that fraud?


Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 03:05 PM (P7Wsr)

151 When I read stupid shit like saying someone should go to jail for wearing the wrong buttons on a military uniform the wrong buttons? argue with honesty please

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:06 PM (zOTsN)

152 136 NeverGiveUp, Wife left the FOB maybe twenty timses in two combat tours. She still got to see people pulped in rocket attacks in Sadr City. I hate this "war."

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 03:06 PM (TE35l)

153 "Like when liberals have some guy in fatigues with them, to give credence to what they're pushing."

Cough.

Posted by: John Kerry at March 17, 2014 03:06 PM (gqT4g)

154 IMO, wearing the uniform outside of performing a role (e.g. stage or screen) and in public while having never served is fraud. Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 07:04 PM (r/e1Q) ____________ How exactly? How is anyone harmed by someone simply walking down the street wearing an army uniform? Fraud means an injured party. Who is the injured party?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:06 PM (0LHZx)

155 You know what pisses me off (besides that pic on the sidebar)? Protesters who wear ski masks. It should be illegal. Show your faces, you rock-throwing cowards.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 03:06 PM (xSfiX)

156 A little young looking to be to be an E-8, and even more remarkable for an alleged E-8 Ranger, he is also a slick sleeve on the right. Probably it is all cover for his real MOS of Space Shuttle Door Gunner. Posted by: The Party of Science ! at March 17, 2014 07:04 PM (uN4Ye) Yeah that is for sure and all the E-8s I know are pretty squared away. When I was made OIC of this large exercise last June I spend hours with the Senior and Master Chief going over formations and protocol.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:06 PM (nzKvP)

157 Reporting for doody

This is the infirmary, correct?

Posted by: John Kerry at March 17, 2014 03:07 PM (Q6pxP)

158 Content warning for yelled expletiives. Is this the French spelling?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 03:07 PM (xSfiX)

159 Fraud means an injured party.

Who is the injured party?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:06 PM (0LHZx)



I am, and veteran that ever served is.  But that's something you'll never understand.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:07 PM (r/e1Q)

160 ...and every veteran...

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (r/e1Q)

161 How exactly? How is anyone harmed by someone simply walking down the street wearing an army uniform? Fraud means an injured party. Who is the injured party? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo you are contrarian just to be contrarian, aren't you? I am not sure you believe 1/4 of the stuff you say

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (zOTsN)

162 I am, and veteran that ever served is. But that's something you'll never understand. Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 07:07 PM (r/e1Q) __________ So we should lock people up because they hurt your feelings?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (0LHZx)

163 120 - Thank you!  The difference is in the CG there are 5 jobs for every one person versus 5 people for every job.

That being said, I admire all of the services and their members.  It is not an easy life for sure.

Posted by: Cheri at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (VDGzf)

164 I see the mentality expressed on the video by the nonplussed students even here.  I guess this kind of shit only really pisses off veterans that give a shit...  and not all do.  Some of us really cared when we gave an oath, really had pride when we served, and would gladly help a brother in need.

It may just come down to something that those that don't feel like that about serving, or the the flag, or the Constitution just don't get.  They don't have a higher honor to uphold and can't comprehend caring so much.  And so, that makes those of us that do care, the wacko birds.  Ok, got it.

Posted by: Yip at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (/jHWN)

165 Are you going to throw everyone in jail who tells a woman he's someone he's not in order to get into her pants?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 06:58 PM (0LHZx)

I have to give you credit...you are consistently stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (QFxY5)

166 This fucking fake isn't wearing an EOD skill badge over his U.S. ARMY tape. And from what I can see, his rank appears to be Sergeant First Class. A real SFC woulda uncorked a stream of vulgarity on anyone questioning his legitimacy. What a doughy little bag of shit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (Dam1Z)

167 Who is the injured party? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:06 PM (0LHZx) Ever been in Basic Training at a place like Parris Island? If not, then I guess you don't get who the injured party is

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (nzKvP)

168 Bite me shore patrol . Every word I wrote is the gods truth . My instructor was even sent to Viet Nam , yes , in the coast guard .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (whqez)

169 The asshat not knowing cover and the hands in pocket are a dead giveaway.To this day I still don't put my hands in my pockets....and when I'm around someone who does I'll ask them if they need a loan for a belt.

Posted by: YTown Guy at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (das+y)

170 How exactly? How is anyone harmed by someone simply walking down the street wearing an army uniform?

Are you sure he was just "walking down the street"?  It seems that he was part of a protest, which is not the same thing.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 03:08 PM (P7Wsr)

171 Mr. Moo Moo's the worst kind of autistic

Posted by: Louise Belcher at March 17, 2014 03:09 PM (hFL/3)

172 I wanna be an airborne ranger!
I wanna lead a life of danger!
Before the day I die, there's five things I wanna ride !
Bicycle, tricycle, automobile, Virgin Mother, and a ferris wheel!

Posted by: John Bender runs down the hallway at March 17, 2014 03:09 PM (gSPiG)

173 Gotta love the "freedom loving" conservatives here...who among other things like wanting to ban smoking a plant, also want to ban someone from wearing a uniform because it makes them upset. What else should we ban?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:09 PM (0LHZx)

174 Like when liberals have some guy in fatigues with them, to give credence to what they're pushing. Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 07:03 PM (Xs26g) That's really stretching it though. If there were literally no benefits to impersonating an officer no one would do it.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 17, 2014 03:09 PM (E8IHS)

175 142. True. And I wouldn't convict if some real vets gave the fake soldier a little physical discouragement. And that's why you're The Man maet 141. When I read stupid shit like saying someone should go to jail for wearing the wrong buttons on a military uniform, I'll speak out. You obviously have never served and I'm glad of this Here's a fact, if a real soldier was wearing that same uniform, guess where he would wind up.... Military jail

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:09 PM (aYJgz)

176

155
You know what pisses me off (besides that pic on the sidebar)?

 

You mean the Monkey Orchid, sooth?

Heh.

 

That thing is freaky looking.

So are the other ones, if you click on it.

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 03:10 PM (Xs26g)

177

Who is the injured party?

 

Everyone who sacrificed and strained to earn   the right to  wear that uniform.. It cheapens their efforts,  their honor,    if any asshole can wear it (or some stupid facsimile thereof)   as a fashion  statement assembled from various parts bins.

 

So  exactly where are you  on the Autism Spectrum anyhow?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2014 03:10 PM (BAS5M)

178 When I read stupid shit like saying someone should go to jail for wearing the wrong buttons on a military uniform, I'll speak out. If you don't like it, don't read what I have to say. posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

Posted by: Proof Positive at March 17, 2014 03:10 PM (Aif/5)

179 It may just come down to something that those that don't feel like that about serving, or the the flag, or the Constitution just don't get. They don't have a higher honor to uphold and can't comprehend caring so much. And so, that makes those of us that do care, the wacko birds. Ok, got it. Posted by: Yip very very few people know any one who has ever served anymore

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:10 PM (zOTsN)

180 So we should lock people up because they hurt your feelings?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:08 PM (0LHZx)



Where did I ever say that?  I'm merely defending the actual Ranger that called the guy out...which, incidentally, is in keeping with the SCOTUS decision, in which the remedy was determined to be actual veterans calling out and humiliating the fakers.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:10 PM (r/e1Q)

181 124. You may kick my virtual butt but ill like it!! Posted by: Navycopjoe

Oh you sailors are all alike!


Posted by: Cheri at March 17, 2014 03:10 PM (VDGzf)

182 Buttons!?

Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (RJMhd)

183 What else should we ban?

 

 

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:09 PM (0LHZx)

 

 

well, you for starters.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (BAS5M)

184 Are you sure he was just "walking down the street"? It seems that he was part of a protest, which is not the same thing. Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2014 07:08 PM (P7Wsr) _________ OK who is hurt by him being at the protest in the uniform? His actions are no different whether he wears the uniform or jeans and a t-shirt or a clown suit? He's not harming anyone.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (0LHZx)

185 Moo Moo isn't autistic, he's just an asshole.

Posted by: Adam at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (Aif/5)

186 What else should we ban? I have an idea.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (oMKp3)

187 They need to see if the “stolen valor” poser has any ties to this Nicholas Teausant traitor, http://tinyurl.com/oeggpfe , who is quoted in an article from two days ago about the poser at ABC News 10, http://tinyurl.com/p2pu343 . This Teausant guy has been arrested for trying to aid al-Qaida in a plot to attack a Southland subway in L.A.

Posted by: Elinor at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (95xxa)

188 >>> What else should we ban? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

::: strokes chin thoughtfully :::

Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (gqT4g)

189 I'm not clickin on that.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (xSfiX)

190 When I was coming up it wasn't cool to wear a t shirt from a concert you hadn't been to or a track meet you hadn't run in. I'm not military, so that's all I got.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (1xUj/)

191 Not to be flippant, but this is important. Remember Adm. "Mike" Boorda

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (l3vZN)

192 @99 NCKate "Going to West Point next year though." Considering his bad judgement, he will be kicked out within a year.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 17, 2014 03:11 PM (h6cl2)

193 Buttons--that would make a cute nick name!

Posted by: tasker at March 17, 2014 03:12 PM (RJMhd)

194
please show me where I said it was illegal
I said it was not right and disgusting
its not
Posted by: thunderb



"Uniform boy is not right"

Which I took to mean you disagreed with his statement that his wearing a uniform was not illegal.

So, are we all agreed that, outside of using a uniform in some official capacity, wearing one is not illegal?

Now as to the other "right", wearing military style gear? Wearing army surplus kit? Wearing that kit with various military patches and what have you?

Draw the line where you will.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 03:12 PM (kdS6q)

195 Try this site for some reads of unbelievable B.S.ers Down Under. Oz veterans take service pretty seriously and have been known to make life hell for military imposters. Also Brit mil sites have whole sections devoted to this, under the heading of " Walts" as in Walter Mitty types. Australia-New Zealand Military Imposters http://tinyurl.com/6pku2mo

Posted by: JHW at March 17, 2014 03:12 PM (a6SQ5)

196 What else should we ban?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:09 PM (0LHZx)

Have you noticed the tone here?

These are people who are protecting something that is important to them.

Maybe you should learn something about just what it is they are defending before you shoot your mouth off.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 17, 2014 03:13 PM (QFxY5)

197 What a doughy little bag of shit perfect description should have that on the uniform my son is autistic and he would never ever have such profound disrespect

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:13 PM (zOTsN)

198 OK who is hurt by him being at the protest in the uniform? His actions are no different whether he wears the uniform or jeans and a t-shirt or a clown suit? He's not harming anyone. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:11 PM (0LHZx) Well yeah if he is taking part in a protest in Uniform he is hurting all of us who serve. See, you would not know this, but it is illegal for us to wear our Uniforms to a protest or any political rally. So by him doing that it hurts all of us, but I guess you don't understand that ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:13 PM (nzKvP)

199 168. Whoa!!! One day we'll have to meet up and argue this over several pitchers of beer

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:13 PM (DXfAK)

200 Are you going to throw everyone in jail who tells a woman he's someone he's not in order to get into her pants?

I know a lot of guys and girls do this, but honestly, how is this not taking by fraud?  Con-men lie to themselves and say they're not robbing anyone.  Their victims hand them the money.  Sex has value too.  If someone who looks like Zac Efron gets some dippy girl to hand over her virginity, what's the difference really?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 03:14 PM (P7Wsr)

201 179 ThunderB, LikeI said the magic 1.5%.... Thing is I am not as bothered by civilian asshattery as I used to be.... Barack Obama is the Captain America of F$A. The fakers aren't part of my culture nor I theirs.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 03:14 PM (TE35l)

202 very very few people know any one who has ever served anymore Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 07:10 PM (zOTsN) _______ I know a few people who served. One just got back from Afghanistan a few weeks ago. I respect what they do. But I don't think they are any better or worse people simply for having served, than anyone else. This is what pisses me off about a lot of veterans...the idea that just because you were in the military you're automatically a better person than everyone else. Some vets are good people, some are assholes. In fact one of the veterans I know is the biggest dick you'll ever meet. A complete douchebag who hasn't paid any child support to his ex-wife who is raising his 3 kids on her own and barely making ends meet. But hey he was in the Army, so I dare not speak ill of him right?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:15 PM (0LHZx)

203 An uncomfortable truth about some homeless veterans is that they are homeless by choice in many cases.  The VA offers housing vouchers now as well as beds in shelters, food, clothing, medical care, etc.  What comes with that are rules that some vets don't want to follow and will choose to live down by the river or in a park so that they can drink/drug, etc. 

As many faults as the VA system has, homeless vets are a top priority but you can't help someone and force a lifestyle on them that they don't want.

Posted by: Cheri at March 17, 2014 03:15 PM (VDGzf)

204 So, are we all agreed that, outside of using a uniform in some official capacity, wearing one is not illegal?

Now as to the other "right", wearing military style gear? Wearing army surplus kit? Wearing that kit with various military patches and what have you?

Draw the line where you will.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 07:12 PM (kdS6q)


http://tinyurl.com/psfalyo

http://tinyurl.com/q28xnkd


Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:15 PM (r/e1Q)

205 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:15 PM (0LHZx)


Buttons.

Posted by: some guy at March 17, 2014 03:15 PM (2DunM)

206 And even if he were in the Army, what is he doing in Uniform off base anyway? He is not stopping for gas, or groceries, or picking up his kid? I know the Army regs are a tad looser than the Navy and Marine regs but still?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:16 PM (nzKvP)

207 202 How much straw did you use to build that fucking ridiculous statement.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 17, 2014 03:16 PM (ojnk6)

208 In fact one of the veterans I know is the biggest dick you'll ever meet.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:15 PM (0LHZx)



So you have a lot in common, then...

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:16 PM (r/e1Q)

209 I apologize ncj . I let my mouth overload my ass . A tendency that I always regret . I'll buy the beers chief .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 17, 2014 03:16 PM (whqez)

210

174 Like when liberals have some guy in fatigues with them, to give credence to what they're pushing.
 

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 07:03 PM (Xs26g)

 

 

That's really stretching it though. If there were literally no benefits to impersonating an officer no one would do it.

 

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 17, 2014 07:09 PM (E8IHS) 

 

---------

 

Stretching it?

Not really.

 

I mean, think about it...

Using fake 'military guys' to push a political agenda affects more than one or two people who are being victimized in some fraud.

 

It affects crowds of people.

And if it's on a video...and replayed thousands of times...then the propaganda spreads out like a virus.

Posted by: wheatie at March 17, 2014 03:17 PM (Xs26g)

211 191. One of the greatest men to ever where the uniform I'm proud to have served under him And the fucking Clinton's killed him

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:17 PM (pR5YY)

212 Buttons? What, did I make another inexcusable faux pas? Is button not the right word? Medal? Patch? Better?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:17 PM (0LHZx)

213 Mr Moo Moo you can take that "some of my friends are vets" baloney, and the strawman you created and pack them in a cavity

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:17 PM (zOTsN)

214 But hey he was in the Army, so I dare not speak ill of him right? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 07:15 PM (0LHZx) ???? What are you making up a new argument? Typical

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:18 PM (nzKvP)

215 Buttons? What, did I make another inexcusable faux pas? Is button not the right word? Medal? Patch? Better? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo gosh I thought you knew people who had served thought you know you tell me

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:18 PM (zOTsN)

216 You guys are unreal. You're offended by this guy's actions, so the solution is to make a law banning his actions. More of that "freedom loving conservative" stuff.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:18 PM (0LHZx)

217

166This fucking fake isn't wearing an EOD skill badge over his U.S. ARMY tape.

 

Though one would expect this phoney to be badged to the max as is typical of the ilk, not wearing any, alas, doesn't prove anything as wearing them is not required. In the olden days it was the fashion to wear every badge one earned, then when the ACUs came out, as the pin-ons are such a pain in the ass, it became cooler to wear none, but now that sew-ons have been authorized, the pendulum has swung again.

 

I still marvel that none of these bozos - especially the ones who were i the military - never look up the regs to get their uniforms straight. There was a drug runner who did, had a totally squared-away uniform, and upon entering the country was only stopped because the whole 23 year old or so LTC thing didn't add up.

Posted by: The Party of Science ! at March 17, 2014 03:19 PM (uN4Ye)

218 211 191. One of the greatest men to ever where the uniform I'm proud to have served under him Our press...Newsweek in particular....had a role too. Sorry to have scraped a wound there.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 17, 2014 03:19 PM (l3vZN)

219 Buttons!!!!!! Ayi Ayi Ayi Ayi!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Moo at March 17, 2014 03:20 PM (Aif/5)

220 202. You know moo moo, you're right In fact, to show just how right you are, I could send you a set of cammies and a gold trident and you would walk around Coronado and preach it there

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:20 PM (FxIhI)

221 You guys are unreal. You're offended by this guy's actions, so the solution is to make a law banning his actions. More of that "freedom loving conservative" stuff. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo all I hear is a whining sound

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:20 PM (zOTsN)

222 Mau Mau "buttons" are what hold up your fly to cover your "Barack"........ Frag Toi Transvestite Bova

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 03:20 PM (TE35l)

223 I thought you knew people who had served thought you know you tell me Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 07:18 PM (zOTsN) _____ Yes and as hard as it may be to believe, they don't sit around and talk about their military days 24/7 nor about buttons/medals with me.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:20 PM (0LHZx)

224 You guys are unreal. You're offended by this guy's actions, so the solution is to make a law banning his actions.

There was a law actually.  Stolen Valor.  John Roberts helped strike it down.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 17, 2014 03:21 PM (P7Wsr)

225 At 124 OK Cheri and Navy-Copjoe...you both realize 1700 is when Mickey's big hand is on the 12 and his little hand is n the 5, right? ;-)

Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2014 03:21 PM (08Znv)

226 I had a buddy in tech school that was a Coastie on a buoy tender out of Midway for two years. When they asked him to re-up, he politely declined so that he wouldn't lose what remaining sanity he had left.
But he was proud of his service, and would constantly remind us of the Coast Guard motto, "Semper Scrotum: Always on the Ball".

Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2014 03:21 PM (yv+63)

227 Any dumbass who has watched the Kate episodes of ncis should know what your cover is.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 17, 2014 03:21 PM (awJIh)

228
http://tinyurl.com/psfalyo
http://tinyurl.com/q28xnkd
Posted by: Country Singer



Title 10 of the United States Code outlines the role of armed forces in the United States Code.

It provides the legal basis for the roles, missions and organization of each of the services as well as the United States Department of Defense. Each of the five subtitles deals with a separate aspect or component of the armed services

The cite covers people in the military, not civilians.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 03:21 PM (kdS6q)

229 There was a law actually. Stolen Valor. John Roberts helped strike it down. Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2014 07:21 PM (P7Wsr) _________ Good. It was a stupid law.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2014 03:21 PM (0LHZx)

230 I was going to lead with him not having a cover outside or carrying his I.D. card as proof of not being a Ranger, but when he said "I don't wanna start an argument" I was *sure* he wasn't a Ranger. Because who wouldn't defend that?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 17, 2014 03:22 PM (QBm1P)

231 Yes and as hard as it may be to believe, they don't sit around and talk about their military days 24/7 nor about buttons/medals with me. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo I am pretty sure they don't talk to you at all, if they can help it

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:22 PM (zOTsN)

232 The proper solution would be to abort this guy. It would even save us tax money!

Posted by: Moo at March 17, 2014 03:22 PM (Aif/5)

233 216 You guys are unreal. You're offended by this guy's actions, so the solution is to make a law banning his actions. More of that "freedom loving conservative" stuff. Mr. Moo Moo , you are not an honorable man. You do not make honorable arguments. I have watched your comments over time on a wide variety of topics and I do not see honorable motives in your so-called conservative ideas. I think you are more of selfish opportunist than an actual conservative. I put no stake in your opinions. I am putting you on my scroll over list. Best wishes to you.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 17, 2014 03:22 PM (oMKp3)

234 We're all just orbiting Moo-Moo's universe, you know.

Posted by: --- at March 17, 2014 03:23 PM (Ud9qG)

235 209. No need to apologize my man It's what we do See, here's a lesson moobuttons Where a uniform for a day, 30+ years, doesn't matter We are one big happy family with a bond that's stronger than you'll ever know That's why we take it so serious It's because we survived

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:23 PM (FxIhI)

236 The cite covers people in the military, not civilians.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 07:21 PM (kdS6q)



Oh?  It seems to me that persons not a member, i.e. civilians, is applicable here.


"Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear— (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps."

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:23 PM (r/e1Q)

237 229 I'm sure this makes you happy,, as the concept of vaoor is apparently a foreign one to you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 17, 2014 03:23 PM (ojnk6)

238 Oooohhhh Digogenes.......to the internet parking lot with you! 

Posted by: Cheri at March 17, 2014 03:24 PM (VDGzf)

239 RESPECT!,  Mau Mau.  Do  you speak it?

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 17, 2014 03:26 PM (BAS5M)

240 Reminds me of the old Bill Mauldin cartoon from WWII where the full bird colonel in the army air corps with a 22 yr. olds wispy moustache grabs the ancient beat up infantry private and exclaims " Uncle Joe ". The story goes that the air corps made rank really fast , whereas the grunts ,,,,, didn't .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 17, 2014 03:27 PM (whqez)

241 238. Wow We were both double slapped Didn't see that one coming at all ~~~golf clap~~~

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:27 PM (FxIhI)

242 Why do all leftists argue exactly the same way? Is there a factory somewhere that mass-produces people?

1. The fallacy of the excluded middle.

2. Deliberate obtuseness.

3. Building straw men.

4. Red Herrings.

5. Argument by dismissal.

It's almost as though they have no actual facts to defend any of their ideals, or something.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at March 17, 2014 03:27 PM (+3Jmb)

243
Oh? It seems to me that persons not a member, i.e. civilians, is applicable here.
Posted by: Country Singer



You would be misreading that. It's taking the text out of context, like pointing to a section of a flood insurance bill and saving it applies to auto mpg.

Totally different set of laws.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 03:28 PM (kdS6q)

244 @154Moo "How exactly? How is anyone harmed by someone simply walking down the street wearing an army uniform?" Like dressing up like a cop? Wearing fatigues is fine--know a lot of guys who are not vets wear them hunting. However, rank insignia and unit designator (army) needs to be removed to no longer be consider a proper uniform under DA reg 670-1. However I am not Aware of any current laws that would punish civilians for doing so-- it is reprehensible people trying to decieve others into believing they are vets, for what ever reason, as it smears the real ones. Read up on John Kerry and his Winter Soldier testimony-- the lies the posers tell have real consequences.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 17, 2014 03:28 PM (h6cl2)

245 Speaking of E-8, I just got invited to my Senior Chief's wedding.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 03:28 PM (nzKvP)

246 Stolen Valor website http://tinyurl.com/rxyj7m Not just a matter of "buttons" (see my post on Anzmi), but there are specific benefits earmarked for legitimate veterans, public monies not intended for phonies. In the same way, politicians that claim to be "Cherokees" to hop on the A.A. bandwagon and steal slots intended for Natives, are lying scum.

Posted by: JHW at March 17, 2014 03:29 PM (a6SQ5)

247 245. Excellent I recommend a superb bottle of single malt as the present

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:30 PM (FxIhI)

248 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 07:28 PM (kdS6q)


How am I taking it out of context?  The statute covers "Unauthorized Wearing Prohibited."

Posted by: Country Singer at March 17, 2014 03:30 PM (r/e1Q)

249 245 Speaking of E-8, I just got invited to my Senior Chief's wedding. Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2014 07:28 PM (nzKvP) Make sure to wear your buttons.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 17, 2014 03:30 PM (oMKp3)

250 CONS! You do not know of the secret Arctic unit authorized to wear an EOD badge with a 101st patch and Ranger tab, Cons! Did you know you are cons, cons? Well you are. You are all cons.

Posted by: Raykon, hand-to-gland-combat specialist, 101st Arctic EOD Battalion at March 17, 2014 03:31 PM (KSjsb)

251 why, I would be so proud my buttons would be bursting!

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

252 Real simple...ask him what unit he is with.....3rd Battalion 6th Marines India Company or some such....If he doesn't know or yammers he is full of shit. You always remember where and when you were or in this guys case weren't.

Posted by: IrishEd at March 17, 2014 03:31 PM (bfm04)

253 Nood ace space up

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 17, 2014 03:32 PM (ojnk6)

254 Here is an article that identifies the poser as Joseph Matthew Scott: http://tinyurl.com/kdg5zrp In the article, link to the local news report and you'll see in the third paragraph a quote from another student, a guard reservist, named Nicholas Teausant. Nicholas Teausant has just been arrested for trying to aid al-Qaida in a plot to attack a Southland subway in L.A. http://tinyurl.com/oeggpfe What is the connection between these two?

Posted by: Elinor at March 17, 2014 03:32 PM (95xxa)

255 252. For the fake SEALs it's always what class and what month did you graduate Very hard to answer if you don't know the answers

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 17, 2014 03:33 PM (FxIhI)

256 Mr Cow-Cow:

Do we now flush the notion of "honor" down the toilet?

Posted by: NCwoof at March 17, 2014 03:38 PM (aUQgu)

257 @240 awkward "The story goes that the air corps made rank really fast , whereas the grunts ,,,,, didn't ." Alot of guys in the air corp didn't see 22-- hence the rapid advance in rank.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 17, 2014 03:39 PM (h6cl2)

258 No way a real ranger takes his tab off lol

Posted by: justAjoe at March 17, 2014 03:40 PM (SYRuV)

259 Stolen Valor, BBC YouTube segment making clear why real veterans despise phonies, focusing on US vets, although all the Brit and Commonwealth miltaries run into the same stuff with phonies. http://tinyurl.com/onnalvo

Posted by: JHW at March 17, 2014 03:41 PM (a6SQ5)

260
How am I taking it out of context? The statute covers "Unauthorized Wearing Prohibited."
Posted by: Country Singer




Because you are taking something out of context from the wrong set of laws. That section doesn't cover what you are demanding it does.

However, if you are that certain about your legal standing, might one suggest you catch the next Greyhound out to San Joaquin Delta College, track down the miscreant, perform a citizen's arrest, and contact the nearest FBI office, since you are insisting he's committing a Federal crime.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2014 03:44 PM (kdS6q)

261 It shouldn't be illegal for a real vet to kick the ass of an imposter. They want to express their free speech with fake stuff? Then they can pay with their ass.

Posted by: EC at March 17, 2014 03:44 PM (doBIb)

262 the hands in pocket are a dead giveaway

Please explain?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 17, 2014 03:45 PM (DL2i+)

263 262 the hands in pocket are a dead giveaway Please explain? You don't put hands in pockets unless you're reaching for an item.

Posted by: EC at March 17, 2014 03:47 PM (doBIb)

264 Buttons, by Carl Sandburg I have been watching the war map slammed up for advertising in front of the newspaper office. Buttons—red and yellow buttons—blue and black buttons—are shoved back and forth across the map. A laughing young man, sunny with freckles, Climbs a ladder, yells a joke to somebody in the crowd, And then fixes a yellow button one inch west And follows the yellow button with a black button one inch west. (Ten thousand men and boys twist on their bodies in a red soak along a river edge, Gasping of wounds, calling for water, some rattling death in their throats.) Who would guess what it cost to move two buttons one inch on the war map here in front of the newspaper office where the freckle-faced young man is laughing to us?

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 03:50 PM (zOTsN)

265

"262the hands in pocket are a dead giveaway

Please explain?"

 

Air Force Gloves, as they are known in the Army...

 

 

Posted by: The Party of Science ! at March 17, 2014 03:54 PM (uN4Ye)

266 ThisAintHell has ID'd dirtbag:

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=40427

Posted by: NCwoof at March 17, 2014 03:57 PM (aUQgu)

267 163 - Exactly right, Cheri. At all ranks and rates in the Coast Guard we are asked to do more and more every year with less and less. Our Medium Endurance Cutters (210 and 270 foot vessels) have an average age of 45 years. Our inland waterways tugs are pulling an average age of 50 years. We had 12 High Endurance Cutters (378 foot vessels) that are being replaced with only 8 National Security Cutters. The shipbuilding funds year to year are only about $1B. In order to be on par with Navy shipbuilding, it needs to be at least 3x that. In Haiti after the 2010 Earthquake, we had 17 cutters respond and at least 13 suffered casualties (something major broke; no one died). But that's the whole point. We have 40,000 Coasties doing work around the country and across the planet (including Afgnaistan where there is a CG RAID Team and the Persian Gulf where there are 6 Cutters and for 10 years after 9/11, Port Security Units manned by reservists providing a consistent blanket of protection) with not enough funds to meet even basic levels to accomplish our Federally mandated responsibilities. When the SOUTHCOM Commanding General states that 80%+ of drugs from South America are making it to the US, it is the CG that gets the blame. But if your fleet can't sustain deployments for more than 50 days every 4-6 months, how can that be effective? Alas, we would rather, as a Republic, ensure Obama Phones are in plentiful supply rather than ensure the finest Military, humanitarian, multi-mission force the world has ever known is given the tools to accomplish its mission fully, every time, and on time. Semper Paratus.

Posted by: John Thompson at March 17, 2014 03:57 PM (Ni+Ei)

268 the guy claims to be in the Guard. He is not in the Guard and he has never deployed. He is a fraud. But we knew that

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:01 PM (zOTsN)

269 266 ThisAintHell has ID'd dirtbag: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=40427 He may have flunked out of boot camp like so many others who know just enough to look like a real serviceman but not enough to pass themselves off as one.

Posted by: EC at March 17, 2014 04:02 PM (doBIb)

270 You don't put hands in pockets unless you're reaching for an item.

Still not getting the why?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 17, 2014 04:03 PM (DL2i+)

271 from This Aint Hell Mary says that people told her that he was claiming that he was still in the Army and that he had four Purple Hearts and that he is an MP.

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:04 PM (zOTsN)

272

Still not getting the why?

It looks slovenly.

Posted by: The Party of Science ! at March 17, 2014 04:04 PM (uN4Ye)

273 more from This Aint Hell guy has never been in the army. He is the definition of a faker. He is married to my cousin so I've met the dumbass. Wish it was illegal to pose like that, after all it's illegal to pose as a cop who does far less for this country than an army ranger. But I guess the system is backwards, upside down, and sideways when it comes to shit like that

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:05 PM (zOTsN)

274 270 

Not served.  Just observation.  In uniform, hands in pocket would appear sloppy, casual, undisciplined, and lack of readiness.  IMO

Posted by: NCwoof at March 17, 2014 04:06 PM (aUQgu)

275 Still not getting the why? It is not considered an appropriate action while in uniform. If your hands are cold, you wear gloves.

Posted by: EC at March 17, 2014 04:08 PM (doBIb)

276 Oh,
It's been so cold here in NW Indiana that you can't leave your hands out.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 17, 2014 04:08 PM (DL2i+)

277 What is the connection between these two? Posted by: Elinor at your links do not work

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:09 PM (zOTsN)

278 There are 100 people in the US/Canada named Kristopher Vieira

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:12 PM (zOTsN)

279 276 Oh, It's been so cold here in NW Indiana that you can't leave your hands out. Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2014 08:08 PM (DL2i+) Everyone has to look the same. That's why it's called a uniform. If you wear the gloves, it must be also worn with your cold weather coat, zipped up to the top.

Posted by: EC at March 17, 2014 04:12 PM (doBIb)

280 Nicholas Teausant, of Acampo, Calif., an unincorporated area near Lodi, was taken off a northbound Amtrak bus just short of the border overnight. A criminal complaint filed in federal court in Sacramento described him as a student at San Joaquin Delta Community College in Stockton and a member of the National Guard who is being discharged for failing to meet basic academic requirements. Beginning last spring, Teausant began expressing on his online photography account a desire to see America's downfall, saying "I would love to join Allah's army but I don't even know how to start," the complaint said. Later in the year, he took to another online forum to say he hoped to fight in Syria, it said.

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:16 PM (zOTsN)

281 276 

A military force is effective because it is disciplined.  Doubt you will hear complaints about cold hands in the Rangers, USMC, Delta Force, SEALs, and so on.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 17, 2014 04:18 PM (aUQgu)

282 Two groups of posters in this thread:

1. Those who served (and their friends and families) who think this POS needs his ass kicked.

2. Those who never served and think it's "no big deal".

Posted by: Icedog at March 17, 2014 04:20 PM (uZ6Ul)

283 281 NCWoof, A good CO orders the correct uniform for conditions.... A bad CO golfs while he pretends the Sequester has shut down the military. You want George Washington, you'd settle for US Grant, you get Urkle...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 04:22 PM (TE35l)

284 282 Icedog, Eh I am a twener. Yeah it sucks but society says it is no big deal... Look the force has high level types high on Ogabe Hopium on force structure/posture.... Young John F Kerry XIVth is small taters comparatively.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 17, 2014 04:25 PM (TE35l)

285 Posted by: Elinor at your links do not work Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 08:09 PM (zOTsN) ***** Thanks. (Hangs head in shame.) Let's try again. Note third paragraph where Nicholas Teausant remarks to reporter about the fake soldier in this article: http://tinyurl.com/p2pu343 Now note this article where the same Nicholas Teausant has been arrested for trying to aid al-Qaida in a plot to attack a Southland subway in L.A.: http://tinyurl.com/oeggpfe Why is someone who will later be arrested for aiding al-Qaida hanging around to comment about a "fake" soldier? (Hope this works this time.)

Posted by: Elinor at March 17, 2014 04:26 PM (95xxa)

286 283 sven

Never disagree with you.  Am merely a military family member cheering our guys on.

PS  Don't know if I could settle on Grant, being a daughter of the Confederacy.  But no real argument on your point.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 17, 2014 04:30 PM (aUQgu)

287 Beginning last spring, Teausant began expressing on his online photography account a desire to see America's downfall, saying "I would love to join Allah's army but I don't even know how to start," the complaint said. Later in the year, he took to another online forum to say he hoped to fight in Syria, it said. Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 08:16 PM (zOTsN) ****** If it's been nearly a year, why did it take so long to initiate separation action on this guy? Doesn't anybody pay attention and react to this kind of behavior?

Posted by: Elinor at March 17, 2014 04:34 PM (95xxa)

288

"Why is someone who will later be arrested for aiding al-Qaida hanging around to comment about a "fake" soldier?"

 

It is even better that he blathered about the guy being a phony and mentioned basic & Drill Sergeant in his face & so on, but  never made it to basic himself -  he too is a fraud, albeit a fraud with some apparent issues in the cranium.

Posted by: The Party of Science ! at March 17, 2014 04:35 PM (uN4Ye)

289

The fake Ranger is a douche.  So was Viera for threatening him.  Ridicule the imposter.  Make sure everyone around knows that he's a lying, pathetic piece of poo.  But having a tab, a scroll or even an MOH doesn't justify assaulting someone just because they're a douchebag.  That doesn't honor dead friends.  Instead, it discredits their service because you're their representative and now you've acted like a jackass. 

"I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers."   Bowing up to a fatbody with mental problems doesn't achieve this. 

Posted by: RLTW at March 17, 2014 04:38 PM (VdfCT)

290 Since he obviously served I'm sure he'll have no problem with a Senior NCO giving him some pointers on proper wearing of the uniform. In front of all his friends. Lots and lots of PT and extra duty should shape him right up into the heroic soldier that's obviously just waiting to burst forth.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 17, 2014 04:39 PM (dvRYt)

291 Thought I'd wear my uniform last Veterans Day, so got out my dress blue jumper (Navy, Vietnam Vet) and put it on. And off again, since I couldn't breath. Damn thing must of shrunk over the years. And the 13 buttons were out of the question.

Posted by: Scott Odegard at March 17, 2014 04:39 PM (8rnGM)

292 #16 Kinda like how you can get jump wings authorized to wear from Airborn without ever being in the Army, much less Airborn? (Anyone who does this, though, knows exactly to the day when they finished that training and can describe exactly how they are authorized the insignia.)

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2014 04:42 PM (7/PU+)

293 23, all services call Explosive Ordnance Disposal EOD. All services use the same school, at Eglin Afb although the school is a navy school. NAVSCOLEOD is the only school for military EOD and is attended by Navy, Marine Corp, Army and Air Force. Hope that helps....

Posted by: freedomcosts at March 17, 2014 04:44 PM (qJka5)

294 Frankly, I find this bothersome.

Unless the guy was using the uniform to perpetrate some kind of fraud or misleading others into thinking he could speak authoritatively about the military, I don't see how it's any one's business what someone wears.

These guys have no right to tell someone else they can't wear whatever they want to wear. This is still a free country.

Just like people can burn the flag if they wish.

This is just harassment because they can. Bullies.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Awaiting Armageddon) at March 17, 2014 04:46 PM (LSDdO)

295 Moo moo, I'm retired military. So is my wife and a brother. My daughter is currently serving. Are we "injured" by this guy's dishonesty? Maybe not. Disrespected, for sure. Should he go to jail? I don't really care. An old fashioned blanket party would be ok with me.

Posted by: Nylon66 at March 17, 2014 04:46 PM (YELrK)

296 Posted by: Icedog at March 17, 2014 08:20 PM (uZ6Ul)

And arrogant douches who think they can judge others merely by an opinion they have that disagrees with theirs.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Awaiting Armageddon) at March 17, 2014 04:49 PM (LSDdO)

297 Pvt Blubbergut needs a very public, perfectly legal shaming. Jail isn't necessary. There are all kinds of punishment that don't require State involvement.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 17, 2014 04:51 PM (dvRYt)

298 Posted by: Mætenloch at March 17, 2014 07:04 PM (pAlYe)

And you would be wrong.

We're supposed to be a nation of laws and not of men deciding to take the law into their own hands.

There are other means to make sure that this person does not benefit from his actions.

Otherwise we're just as bad as any other tribe of savages.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Awaiting Armageddon) at March 17, 2014 04:52 PM (LSDdO)

299 I saw this on facebook...how about this, the guy's just a sad crazy person.

Posted by: oejay44cday at March 17, 2014 04:54 PM (LEEQ+)

300 the guy confronting this fake soldier is named Viera. There is a guy off camera talking too. He was later interviewed by the local television station. His name is Nicholas Teausant, who told the television station he served in the National Guard. He has just been arrested for trying to join a break away Al Qaeda group in Syria and wanted to bomb the LA subway system. He was charged with a single count of attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization and was due to appear later Monday in U.S. District Court in Seattle. He tried to join the National Guard in 2012 but did not go through boot camp because he never met the academic requirements so one of the students complaining about this guys stolen valor, himself pretended to have a service record and has been arrested for trying to be a terrorist there is a story in the Daily Mail and at KXTV

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:57 PM (zOTsN)

301 Why is someone who will later be arrested for aiding al-Qaida hanging around to comment about a "fake" soldier? (Hope this works this time.) Posted by: Elinor because he is a lying attention whore? he never served either never had the grades

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 04:58 PM (zOTsN)

302 #98 "...No, I want your wife or girlfriend to be stopped by someone pretending to be law enforcement." Yeah, that. I do sort of understand the argument that unless someone is trying to get benefits that it's just free speech... but what's "benefits?" People who pretend to be someone they're not do it for the benefits. There was someone who used to go to writing conventions pretending to be a famous writer... even if it didn't garner free hotel rooms or fees or the only reason to do it is the benefits... people gush at you, admire you, you get to be the center of attention. Maybe the false flag guy doesn't get anything except getting laid. So what. It's still all about getting stuff you never earned. And if nothing else, it's identity theft. Maybe not stealing the identity of an individual, but identity theft all the same. So I think that there *should* be some legal consequences. There's also the fact that what the law does for us is take away the need for vigilantism. If the law refuses, then the social contract is broken.

Posted by: Synova at March 17, 2014 04:58 PM (7/PU+)

303 Thing is I get the impression that the idea that what's stolen has to be some kind of tangible, physically, easily demonstrable thing in order for some people to be angered. There are some things that are not so easy to define. Being a vet means having exposure to certain challenges that go beyond what many civilians will ever face. When you wear that uniform falsely it's demeaning to the honor and respect that are due for overcoming those challenges. You cheapen the ability to overcome the particulars of military service.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 17, 2014 05:00 PM (dvRYt)

304 so wanna be jihadi ids himself to tv station as a vet (he is not, never got to basic) to cry stolen valor stolen valor on stolen valor like I said in the beginning, you lie about this, you lie about anything

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 05:03 PM (zOTsN)

305 @218 - Yeah I thought Boorda was alright until he became CNO and told me to my face (and in front of a full auditorium) that the reason Hospital Corpsmen (largest rate in the Navy btw) were cut out of so many career opportunities (Recruiting, Company Commander and most others at the time) was that the Navy didn't need us. After that he was a piece of shit to me.

Posted by: chad at March 17, 2014 05:05 PM (gYowz)

306 303 

Appreciate your expression of the seemingly lost idea of "honor", and what it means to be "honorable".  

A "dishonorable discharge"  must mean something about the character of the individual being sent out from the service.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 17, 2014 05:08 PM (aUQgu)

307 War criminals, fake war criminals, wannabe war criminals, what difference does it make at this point?

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at March 17, 2014 05:21 PM (SK5U6)

308 280: strange; never heard of that school before, and now twice in one day.

Posted by: Lasue at March 17, 2014 06:09 PM (gjIQF)

309 Elinor I haven't found anything that says Teausant and Viera even knew each other Viera is the thinner guy in the sweat shirt citing regs. The heavier guy in in the t shirt with tattoos who is more vocal in the video is named Caden. Teausant does not appear in the video at all, and was interviewed by KXTV later, claiming to be one of the guys confronting the Stolen Valor guy, Scott. So far I have found nothing connecting the vets that confronting Scott, and the wannabe jihadi.

Posted by: thunderb at March 17, 2014 06:11 PM (zOTsN)

310 His very demeanor seems to betray the truth of the credentials he is wearing. I would imagine any veteran, especially a Ranger, would become very hostile to the suggestion they are not actual veterans. As an experiment, try walking up to a real Ranger and telling him he can't wear the insignia because he is not a Ranger--you'll be wearing the insignia of the nearest hospital real soon. However, the Stolen Valor reversal by the SCOTUS was the right call. Speech, no matter how onerous or even untrue, is always to be protected.

Posted by: Jazzizhep at March 17, 2014 06:44 PM (yolS9)

311
@282 Two groups of posters in this thread:

1. Those who served (and their friends and families) who think this POS needs his ass kicked.

2. Those who never served and think it's "no big deal".

There's a third group - those who don't have any connection to the military except their appreciation for their service.

I don't know if this guy should get a severe hiding or not.  But he should be ridiculed.  I like the previous poster's idea of following this guy around all day with a sign saying "fake soldier".  And then post his personal info. 

Posted by: RightWingProf at March 17, 2014 07:03 PM (RtR5I)

312 He was headed to the tryouts for the new Village People.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 17, 2014 07:14 PM (1gcFZ)

313 It's interesting that this site has a bunch of libertarians and conservatives who believe there are too many laws on the books and the government should butt out of our lives...yet think that the government should regulate how many bits and pieces of uniform a civilian can wear before it becomes fraud.

I wore military surplus khaki pants because I liked them. I guess they should have thrown me in jail.

Posted by: Craig at March 17, 2014 08:39 PM (NIN1w)

314 Simple solution for stolen valour "soldiers" make them subject to UCMJ.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 17, 2014 08:48 PM (6ahup)

315 "It's interesting that this site has a bunch of libertarians and conservatives who believe there are too many laws on the books and the government should butt out of our lives...yet think that the government should regulate how many bits and pieces of uniform a civilian can wear before it becomes fraud." That's because everyone has that one little thing that, no matter what, is just so important it has to be made into law. If it isn't this then it's the guys who want everyone who disagree with them on a foreign policy issue charged with treason, or the idiots who want people who don't believe in global warming charged with fraud. Everybody wants their pound of flesh you just have to find what it is that is their hot button. (BTW the day the oath-keepers rise up in their coup start looking for "courts-martials of all those who offended the military in someway or another. It's the logical extension of the a lot of the comments in this thread).

Posted by: chad at March 17, 2014 10:07 PM (gYowz)

316 Trying to pick up chicks? And has mad gaming skillz so feels qualified to wear the uniform? I'd say def trying to pick up chicks though.

Posted by: Stephanie at March 18, 2014 01:33 AM (sF0CB)

317 315 Chad, Yeah that's the ticket. I think less laws and jury nulification for corective discipline is the way to go. Unlike the Goreon militia I don't try to use the law to protect my holy scripture, and I'm not like the Kelo Kommando Einsatzgruppen using political power t aid graft engines. The American people have spoken, if service and duty were venerated in any form and American honor was a notion that could be measured in any unit but microns the political landscape would be much different. In a nation where Jugears and Joey Plugz are venerated shitbird fakers are the least of our worries.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2014 02:34 AM (euj9t)

318 "The American people have spoken, if service and duty were venerated in any form and American honor was a notion that could be measured..."

Dude, please... This country for the past 14 years has *fetishized* anyone who serves in the military or is a first-responder. It is creepy and weird and really unhealthy for a republic to worship people who wear a uniform and bear arms.

It is fascism-lite. Soon to be followed by full-bore fascism.

Posted by: Craig at March 18, 2014 02:47 AM (NIN1w)

319 318 Craig, Right those of us on the righthave so much power as does the "evil military cult" tha is why we are nuking force structure and mission readiness. Look champ you won, mil service and capability is prety meaningless these days. If honor and respect for duty meant shit Benghazi and Obama's bragging getting Seal Team Six killed would have mattered. It doesn't, when fascism is finished herein America it'll wear a business sut not a fucking uniform.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2014 06:02 AM (TE35l)

320 Ok, so, a couple of things here: 1. He's not wearing a Ranger scroll, he's wearing a Ranger tab. If you graduate from the two months of hell that is Ranger School, you get the tab. However, you are not spec-ops. You can to a normal line unit and be like everybody else, just with a small thing on your sleeve that certifies that you are an infantry expert. Or, you can go to Ranger School and then go to further training to enter the 75th Ranger Regiment and do spec-ops stuff. Those are the only guys who wear the scroll (on their left sleeve if they are currently in the unit, and on their right sleeve if they did a combat deployment with the unit). Now, if this was a Ranger School graduate who's serving in the 101st, his left sleeve would be as follows: Screaming Eagle on the bottom, then Airborne tab (those two combine to make the 101st unit patch) and then the separate Ranger tab. I can't see what his two tabs are, but he must be wearing two Ranger tabs, which is why the guys blast him for the 101st not being a Ranger unit. 2. The real vets are correct that the 101st is not an EOD unit. My unit in Afghanistan did not have internal EOD guys. They were attached from a totally separate unit with their own patch and everything. And EOD patches are not worn stateside. So that is a definite giveaway. 3. I find it really unlikely that an EOD guy, an engineer, would go to Ranger School, an advanced infantry school. It happens, absolutely. And I know guys who did it other career fields, or did it as infantrymen and then changed fields later on. So this isn't proof that he's a fake (don't get me wrong, he is, but not based on this), but it kinda indicates to me that he googled "cool army stuff" and bought whatever popped up. 4. He's not wearing a deployment patch (his right sleeve is blank)! Now, some people don't wear theirs, but this guy is just some gloryhound tool, so I don't know why he went the humble route. Sheesh, I'm more decorated than this guy! He should have ditched the EOD patch and the Ranger tab, pinned on E5 instead of E8 rank, found his cover, and thrown an 101st patch on his right arm. He wouldn't have gotten called out and he would have looked cooler too. 5. I work in this uniform. When it's 1700 and time to go home, I don't want to wear it any more. Like my friend says, "If I'm wearing my pants five minutes after I get home, I'm doing it wrong". So why this guy's wearing his uniform to class is beyond me, and even if he was for real, I'd think he was a dope. Same for people who fly in uniform. Go take that crap off and put on some shorts and flipflops. Besides, flashing my ID at the gate will get me and my wife through whenever we want to board, regardless of whether the check in agents say early boarding is only for personnel in uniform.

Posted by: The LT at March 18, 2014 07:29 AM (GwLJQ)

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