1 The 23% who Strongly Approve matches the lowest level of enthusiasm yet recorded number of people that are congenitally stupid.



FIFY

2 Slu misspelled Oops.

3 Tiger may have something to do with it, actually. The collapse of the Tiger PR machine, from which 0bama borrowed so much, might be making folks wonder what is really behind the curtain.

4 It is heartening that he's dropping despite constant media fellatio. Imagine if the media actually did it's job. People would march on Washington with pitchforks.

5 People are waking up.  That is a good thing.  I see very, very few Obama stickers lately. 

6 Well, the "news" is full of stories of how the Democrats want to do "Stimulus II - The Fisting". If you are funemployed, do you want to hear how the Prez wants to repeat a failure? The dam is collapsing.

7 Also, I wonder if the "surge" in Afghanistan might be just the excuse some of the antiwar types needed to quit pretending 0bama was all kittens and rainbows.

8 BHO.Just.Go....

9
Maybe it's just my imagination, but there seems to be a weird pattern going on with Gallup.
Poll numbers don't seem to move for two to three days at a time and he's being kept a 50% come hell or high water.

10

The back bumpers of the cars parked in the lot of my northeastern, state-funded liberal arts and teaching college are sporting more and more dirty, sticky rectangles where Obama bumper stickers used to be.

Actually criticizing Obama is still grounds for expulsion/losing tenure, but people are saying a lot with their dirty bumper rectangles.

11 It's interesting how nonlinear the process of disillusionment is.  What we are seeing now is the tipping point between "I voted for this guy and I don't want to admit what a sucker I was, so I'll keep praising him", to "I don't want to be the last one defending this bozo, so I'll turn on him now and start attacking those who still are".  Nice to see the deepseated principles at work with the left. 

12
It's the magazine covers and the silly interviews with the ugly wife. People are getting sick the Obamas and their bullshit.

At this rate, Obama will be below 45% approval by the end of his 1st year. And if unemployment goes back up, which it will, he's done.

13

From an income perspective, the PresidentÂ’s ratings are weakest among those who earn $40,000 to $100,000 annually. money.

FIFY

14 Berlusconi just got punched in the face.  Obama's at -19.  I'd rather be Berlusconi. 

15 The Climategate emails are doing damage, too. People can see the emails and see how the MSM is a pack of lying hyenas. Massive Winter storms following a cool Summer coupled with a Climategate and Copenhagen crap penetrates even the densest of skulls. Except in Manhattan.

16

That's not an inverted hockey stick, it's a puck to the balls.

17 Tiger + healthcare/sausage making + climategate = uhhh, have I been a sucker? Plus, and this is important, people are beginning to realize that Obama is either an idiot or an confirmed ideologue. BO's visit to Copenhagen more or less proves one of the two.. A smart president would avoid Copenhagen is light of the new evidence and put things off. The fact that Obama's still going to plow on ahead he's stupid and can't process new information which is bad OR that he's an ideologue and the American people, lives, hopes, and dreams mean nothing to him as long as he gets more of their money to spend which is worse.

18 who knew that being the Hip Prez was tough? Oh yeah, us.

19

And if unemployment goes back up, which it will, he's done.

ACORN.  SEIU.  Amnesty.  Union and Black Panther thuggery.  The Media.  Stimulus creating phony jobs.

He's not done.  And if he is electorally done, don't put it past him to just rig the bitch like his heroes Chavez et al.

20 It doesn't matter what the major nets have on.  People can...and are....tuning them out (seen their ratings lately?  I rest my case.)  They can go on the Internet, find out what the media doesn't or won't tell them, and make up their own minds.  Climategate isn't going away, and health care is tanking, even though the Legacy Media is in full damage control mode.    

They can also see their families, friends and neighbors out of work...or hoping that they don't lose their jobs, look at how the value of their houses and 401k's have gone down, and see local stores and businesses closing.  The talking heads can try and spin it all they want, but it only works to a point.

The only thing I can compare it to is when I was in the former Soviet Union in 1988-1989.  Lotsa happy talk in the media, different story on the streets, and people were getting pissed off and losing their fear.  A "charismatic" leader with good media skills can only do so much.  Eventually they gotta deliver.  Gorby didn't, and I doubt Oblahblah's up for the task, either.

Next year should be very interesting, especially around election time.  Pass the popcorn and the Valu-Rite, there will probably be quite a show come November.... 

21 Sarah palin, too, is making a difference. She was cheered in LA. Her book is selling like waffles.

22 I think it's fatigue.  Malaise, if you will.

I think that Obama is at the stage where anything he does -- the Copenhagen speech, the upcoming 60 Minutes interview, the Oprah appearance -- is just going to piss people off.

Ultimately, Obama isn't a likable person.  He's distant, arrogant and humorless.  So, if you don't like what he's doing and you've gotten over the whole historical thing, what do you have left?

Not a lot of hope, that's what.

23

He's falling because it's Christmas. People don't have the money to shop. The malls aren't crowded. The is insecurity about whether to spend money or not. It makes people cranky. Obama also announced that there would be very little "christmas" at the white house.

When The New York Times indirectly revealed on Sunday that President Obama and his family were planning a "non-religious Christmas" sans Nativity scene, critical reaction was swift.

They backed off and put in a Nativity scene later.

He's also pissing people off when they can't buy presents with trying to screw them on climate regulations.

24

It is EVERYTHING! Not one thing he is doing has popular support. NOT ONE FREAKING THING!

He can't get by anymore on hope and change and big smiles and putting his nose up in the air. Now he actually has to GOVERN and work with people and make deals and understand the issues. FAIL.

25
Why do you think Obama told the Republicans to keep their mouths shut?

He knows he's losing support like a sieve because details of his real agenda are being revealed.

26

To me it seems very obvious, but with limited upside for getting psyched about it.

The Right is roughly where it's always been with Obama - 42 percent-ish strongly disapprove.  We pick up a point or two a month; the trend has been favorable but not hyperbolically increasing.  Our distate for Obama has hardened (from 'somewhat' to 'strongly') but there's only so many total people to work with.

The Left is shifting from "strongly approve" to "kinda approve".  A LOT of that is the Afghanistan speech.  Some more of it may be the Nobel speech and finding out that he's prepared to faking being a liberal internationalist instead of an anti-war socialist.  Another piece of it is his lame work on health care and climatehoax.  That shift from strongly approve to somewhat is enough right there to take it from -10 to -19.

The reason we shouldn't all dance on the rooftops about it is because he is only one Big Win away from the Left remembering why they were so excited about him.  If health care reform goes thru, a lot of them will be stoked again.

This is what makes the passion index so useless, despite it being fun. 

27 Ace's poll rating plummet after lack of NFL thread/cheerleader pics!

28 Posted by: the professor at December 13, 2009 01:11 PM (z37MR) @13 Good point, Michelle's not a gargoyle but neither is she particularly pretty. All the magazine covers and puff pieces confirm to people that they're being lied to constantly cause hey, I can see it with my own eyes. What else are they lying to me about?

29 Another thing is Bush has stayed out of the limelight and kept his mouth shut. A sign of respect for the Office and American Presidential Tradition ( Jimmy and Billy excepted, of course). It all adds up.

30 Who would have thought that a guy with no experience and who had never voted anything but present would fail as a leader?  I also think the stupid people had no idea what "change" meant but are starting to learn that it means communism.

31 Maybe he can hire all of us to do government jobs.  I call the official counter for the snipe population of SE Virginia.  Won't see me complaining at $75K a year.   

32 Yeah, but what about good ol' Let-im-free, Huckabee?

"I don't care if he's a murderer, I don't care if he kills some cops, he has told me he is saved, so I just want to let him free!"

33

First Q: Who is the most outstanding male political figure?

Seems like an awfully narrow question.  Did they accept Michelle Obama?

34
TruNorth, you're right to worry about Obama becoming Chavezesque.

The more unpopular he becomes the more he attacks his critics and tries to silence them. Very unpresidential, and very unAmerican. So the lower Obama goes in the polls the worse he makes himself look. But as he sinks lower in the polls he becomes more like a dictator.

It will be interesting to see how things unfold. Can we outlast Obama before Obama turns into a nybrid of Putin and Chavez? I dunno. It's gonna be close.

35

First Q: Who is the most outstanding male political figure?

I have a mancrush on Paul Ryan. 

36

Asked about the President's latest approval rating, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs inserted his fingers in his ears and stated "Num num num I can't hear you num num num..."

37 It also may just be over. Fads don't last that long anymore. My teenagers apprise me of what is "tight" to what is not and it's a fast trade. Example, Crocs (which they never thought were tight) were all the rage then Croc went in the shitter less than a year later. Now, multi-colored nike's are tight. Next month, something else. Obama isn't so tight anymore since he had to move from fantasy to reality. Reality is rarely tight. 

38 When you think about it, you'll quickly realize that Barack Obama and Tiger Woods are actually the same person.

39
What's Rasmussen's right track/wrong track? That's the important poll.

40 Anybody see Liz Cheney beat up Juan this morning? Sen. Inhofe beat the crap out of some greenie congressman whose legislation Inhofe said was passed in the middle of the night.

41 There's no Headline Thread, so OT: comedian Louis C.K. goes all "Cool Facts About Dick Cheney."

42

mmmmega's point makes sense to me (we saw the same thing happen to Bush a lot with his base, tipping from strong approval to moderate approval) - Obama is taking a hit with his base over Afghanistan, inability to push forward his agenda (easily I mean, i.e. the way his base wants it, which is to run roughshod over the rest of us).

 

They don't just want him to "win", they want him to kick our ass while doing it. 

43 My take on the situation (if anyone cares) is the Obama now has the same problem that Bush had around 2006, in that he has pissed off The Base. So, the people that did not vote for him still hate him, and a goodly number of the ones who did vote for him are also pissed that he has not turned us in to Zimbabwe yet.

44
btw
Will Gibbs have a whine fest about Rasmussen next week?

45 The new spike down may be due to the peace prize speech where he defended war.  Most people didn't hear the speech, but read about it a day or two later.

And the EPA ruling to take command and control over all industry via CO2 regulation, had to cause more intense alarm. 

Perhaps a lot of people just catch up on this crap over the weekend, especially the likely voter types, who are also more likely to be employed.

46 Last couple of days we have Congress expanding debit limit a couple of trillion. Obama talking about "spending" the way out of recession. I think the people are finally catching on he's all talk and everything he's done has been harmful instead of helpful.

47 I meant debt not debit. Can't write and watch football at same time.

48
When you prosecute Americans for slapping around terrorists and 'torture' and promise to close a perfectly good prison for no good reason, people are gonna start to get annoyed.

Wait'll the trial begins in NYC.

49

Posted by: rawmuse at December 13, 2009 01:34 PM (SLMWU)

yes, I have to add to that.

I did not like Bush then, and even attended protests agn him and Cheney (who now I have tremendous respect for doing whatever was necessary to keep America safe and strong.)

what you are also observing is that recent ex-democrats like me are realising that the lunatic radical america-hating lefties are  NOT what we signed up for (we were groups in the "anti-Bush" camp with these vile America-hating lunatics). I was a democrat mainly b/c I am pro-choice. But I am pretty much for America ideas, ya know, strong military, adherance to US constitution, indiv rights, etc.

what many independents and centerists democrats are realising is that Bush was not that bad, and that there is really a far lefty radical america-hating, miltiary-hating bunch of people in this country (probably all in Pelosi's district).  And this reality is hitting people now. Which is why people are backlashing. THere is now alternative media, the internet, they can read/watch and make up their own minds, and many like me are realising how much the MSM have been lying to us, makes me wonder what else and how long they have been lying ?

Next you will see people who like protested agn Bush/Cheney say  and realise that heck, Bush wasn't that bad, at least he didnt go ahead loathing America and wanting to put us in jail b/c we don't want death-care.

Obama never really had a "base", he just was riding the wave of "anti-Bush" and "anti-Hillary" (I say this as a Hillary supporter). He never had any mandate, he was never for anything, just against, mainly against America and American ideals and freedoms.

just my 2 cents-- a recovering democrat.

50

Robert Gibbs clarified the meaning of the -19 approval rating, stating that what Rasmussen meant to say was that every man, woman and beast on Earth adores Obama with all their soul.  University of East Anglia later adjusted the -19 poll number to +infinity.

51 50, True, and wait until Gitmo attendees end up in Illinois. "I see Red States."

52 5 People are waking up.  That is a good thing.  I see very, very few Obama stickers lately.

Me too. The ones I do spot, get a double key pass on both sides. Fuckers.

53 Great post, number 51

54

yes, I agree with the commentor above, also people are realising that lies about Climategate, and now the EPA is going to act like a dictator, and we are giving contitutional rights to terrorists who want to hurt the citizens of that country they are trying to destroy.

And then the death-care, serisouly, jailing people for not buying the crap they want to force us to? People are more and more reading the founding of this country and the US contitution, and realising the people in charge are blatantly not only listening or doing what the people that put them there want

This woudl be great time for a movie like "The Patriot" to come out. It woudl be hit, even in these economic times.

55 The funny thing (and I mean that literally, as it causes me to laugh out loud) is that the ones I meet who are the most pissed off are the extreme end of the Left spectrum, who worked hard for Obama. They are so mad they are shitting blood. These are people who really think that real Communism has not been perfected as of yet. Did I mention I live in San Francisco?

56

It just seems to me that the error in the passion index is in overemphasizing the gentle nomadic movements between strongly approving and somewhat approving, at the expense of measuring what really matters:  people who move from somewhat approving to somewhat disapproving.  To do the latter, people have to make up their minds that they were wrong in the first place, that their overall take on the guy was wrong on some level, making that change somewhat sticky and meaningful. 

Going from strongly approving to somewhat approving, which is what the Passion Index ends up over-emphasizing, is really just the ebb and flow of popular sentiment as it tags along with the daily news cycle.

57
Are the Obamabots still using  the 'jobs created/saved' line?

The stories about the saved/created jobs really hurt Obama on the economy, I think.

58

O/T

Just reloaded the Palin vs. Shatner thread and noticed that the video is now labelled for "Mature Audiences" only, and requires you to sign in to see it. Anyone else see this?

59

At least the recession is over, according to Larry Summers.

Now we're just totally bankrupt, but recession-free.

60

"At least the recession is over, according to Larry Summers."

Yes, but now the Depression has started.

61 People desperately want to impart Magical Powers to a President, and those are not in the job description.

62

Lets not get ahead of ourselves.  While I'm doing a little happy dance in response to these numbers, there are still lots of things that could happen to turn this around to postive numbers for Obambi.  If the economy/unemployment does get better, and people like Larry Kudrow believe it's going to get better sooner than later, that is going to benefit The Won and Dems. Now I want the economy/employment to improve, just don't want it to benefit the Dems., and we all know that they will spin any positive news as a result of their policies (which we all know is not true, but the majority of the electorate are feaking idiots).  However, if the EPA does it's command and control bit and Healthcare passes, then things will only get worse for the Dems.  But then we are all fooked if that happens. 

63 Christmas is coming.  Reality is hitting more and more people.  Prices are going up and wages are coming down or going out of sight completely.  Besides, it takes a while for word of mouth to reach the masses.  We sure aren't getting any news from the media in a faster way except as you say Tiger Woods.  And who cares about that.

64 *sorry thats suppose to be Larry Kudlow.

65

"people like Larry Kudrow believe it's going to get better sooner than later"

Hate to break it to you, Larry Kudlow since Jan '09 keeps going on and on about mustard seeds, he actually thins America is in a new Bull cycle.

THere is a reason CNBS has lost 65% viewership this year.

zerohedge.com has a wonderful post about this. Wouldn't be surprised if zerohedge's audience is greater than CNBS's

66

A smart president would avoid Copenhagen is light of the new evidence and put things off.

Your point being?

67

It's Kudrow.

68 the professor: "He knows he's losing support like a sieve because details of his real agenda are being revealed."

You're welcome, America.

We will get the last laugh.

69 If Obama wants his numbers to rise - drop health care.

70

Is it a delayed reaction to the Afghanistan speech?

Is it just Obama fatigue?

Obama ran as a moderate to conservative Democrat. He has governed as a far left extremist. The moderates he won over don't want to pay much attention to politics outside of the very end of the election cycle, but he is forcing them to with his economic incompetence and his grasping policies.

And they are angry about both. The best thing Obama could do right now is put his remaining policies on hold, stop giving prime time speeches, and maybe go play kissy face with the Europeans. 

Though it is an interesting question, if Obama did layoff the National Socialism for a bit, would the voters forgive him? I'm guessing not unless unemployment drops below 8%.

71 the PresidentÂ’s ratings are weakest among those who earn $40,000 to $100,000 annually.

So, I guess all those obscenely overpaid gubmint lackeys are still in his camp.

72 Happy words and happy pictures only go so far in selling a turd. Puppies with wings and bunnies with magic wands may work for Kylie, who's five years old. Obama could buy another six months if he had a single accomplishment to show for the year. But things are worse and getting worser.

73 The Left tried to tell themselves that Obama's speech at West Point was really about the 2011 pull-out date and not the temporary troop surge.  In Oslo, Obama poked a hole in that balloon by talking more about war than about peace.  That's why the Strongly Approve line turned down so sharply: his core Left supporters are losing faith.

74

It was the Oslo speech.  The fact that all the elites were raving about it should have been a tip off.  I think it has to do with the fact that people are seeing that Obama will say anything do anything to hold onto power.  If he would abandon his core principles of appeesement and argue for "just wars"  whatelse will he not throw under the bus.  Most of the new numbers IMO is from liberals abandonment.   Is is getting down to his base  and he is throwing his base away like Bush did to try to win the middle back.  It will not work.

75 The brain dead and superficial 52 %' s are linking the Woods failure to Obama.

Wanna bet,  No More Golf Photo Ops of half-black Jughead on the links for a while?

76
The fun part (kinda) is watching and waiting for Reid to pass his so called "health care reform" bill.  You know -the bill that nobody wants, the bill what will raise costs. (unless the CBO can figure out how to massage the numbers and lie about it.) The democrats want to stand in unison for Obama, but they know it's risky.
It's amazing what the democrats will do for dear leader.  The democrats will not only screw over this nation by raising everyone's health care premiums and related costs and taxes, the democrats will risk losing their own jobs for the man.

Fun.

77

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at December 13, 2009 01:44 PM (ACkhT)

Welcome to the Dark Side, John.  Did you pick up your cookies?  We have cookies!

78 I still think Obama has the potential to be insanely popular. He is young, non-white, nice looking, nice family. The only thing holding him back is all this idiotic Leftist ideology. If he ditched that, watch out. Clinton ditched his.

79 46
btw
Will Gibbs have a whine fest about Rasmussen next week?

Posted by: YIKES! at December 13, 2009 01:35 PM (/cfp9)

Will his mouth be open?

80 Maybe the commercial with polar bears dropping from the sky, should be remade with unicorns falling.

All Obama's unicorn promises are being delivered DOA.

81 37  -

Me too.  'Cept I'm a girl. So it's kinda the same except entirely different.

He's the real deal.

82

Posted by: rawmuse at December 13, 2009 02:23 PM (SLMWU)

nope, see the thing is, he in his own words is a Marxist. He in his own words says "the US Constitution is fundamentally flawed" without once being challenged on this.  He in his own words said "The US military is air raiding villages and killing civilians". He in his own words  has a whole lotta of anti-american stuff on tape I am sure.

I voted for Bill Clinton, there was NO alternative media like the internet for voters to go check out things for themselves. This is not the case this time. Also, Bill Clinton was a very "I feel your pain" politician, he sure as hell would not have given a "shout out" before doing a "by the way, 13 american soldiers were shot today"

He cannot be what Bill clinton was, b/c Obama does not in his core believe in America, he only wanted power for power's sake. He doesn't realise and never will that most Americans want to give their votes to those who recognize that we are only temporarily giving authority to the govt to govern us NOT TO RULE US!

He never had the American experience, I work with many recent immigrants who are terrified of what is happening, because they came to this country to escape that oppressive govt crap. Obama will never realise this b/c he's never had the american experience, doesn't understand American Expectionalism and nor he want or care to! He has a true disdain for this country like no one I have ever seen in my life. So, for him to reject the lefty ideologue, he cannot, b/c he is the lefty ideologue, he cannot even fake leaving it (enough to convince Americans at least), because this is all he knows.

83 the professor: "Wait'll the trial begins in NYC."

Ain't that the truth. Obama can. not. win. this one no matter what the outcome.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is guilty. We know he's guilty. If KSM gets off on some technicality or activist jury, we'll have open revolt across the nation. Plus, Obama already prejudiced the process. An own-goal before even the sniff of a courtroom.

If KSM is convicted, so what? He was already guilty and could've been sequestered via the rational method, namely military tribunal. The legacy from the trial? An awful and dangerous precedent that weakens the country.

If during the trial there's an attack in NYC to get KSM released or as a target rich environment on the American system, a virtual billboard for jihadists, then catastrophic chaos ensues. No way can you defend such a high-density population center like you can a GITMO.

If there's no attack in NYC proper, there's the underlying scandal of an expensive show and the circus act of the defense to be used for global propaganda.

All of this is just the tip of the iceberg. I could go on. This is one of the worst decisions the Obama/Holder Justice Department, and Obama overall, could have possibly made. As much as the damage it will do to Obama politically is the silver lining, the cost is more tangible risk and damage to the nation short-term.

Yes, his numbers will plummet when that trial proceeds.

84

cookies?  what about bacon?? 

 

ok-- I have no clue why you guys/gals keep mentioning bacon? must be some inside joke, I'm sorta new here.

85 ok-- I have no clue why you guys/gals keep mentioning bacon? must be some inside joke, I'm sorta new here. Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat Bacon is the base, center, and apex of the food pyramid. It cure illness, clears the mind, and stiffens the spine. It makes cowards into heroes and knaves into knights. It causes women to swoon and men to salute. It also tastes good.

86 johnc_recent_EX-democrat: "THere is a reason CNBS has lost 65% viewership this year."

Seriously? Wow. And the hits keep coming.

87
I have to wonder what Reid has up his sleeve. He's probably going to get some small portion of the bill rated as acceptable, get his 60 votes, and then insert some major legislative language into the bill that NO one knows about.   The bill will end up an unread mix of all the disastrous regulations, kick-backs, penalties, tax increases, and hidden costs that would have defeated the bill. -- Then it goes back to conference.  The desperation is so obvious, the House is already saying - "yeah -um- we don't even need to see it, just take it on up to the president for signature."

Even leftists have to wonder where the honesty and transparency went?

88 ok-- I have no clue why you guys/gals keep mentioning bacon? must be some inside joke, I'm sorta new here.

Are you a vegetarian, johnc?  What would you consider the perfect food, if not bacon?

89

the thing is, do these morons really think ,lets say they completely not tell the public what is in this deathcare plan, that once it is signed into law, we won't find out, that's when the backlash really begins. I mean SEVERE BACKLASH!

 

90 Nothing to see here. It's a meaningless distraction from the real stories. R.S. McCain is a racist. Sarah Palin is a racist creationist. AGW holocaust deniers are all stupid brainwashed racist creationists.  Doonesbury is a witty comic strip. I am not a desperate midddle-aged failure. That is all.

91

peaches, love Bacon, but had to give it up, I can't much of eat anything good now,  but I still love my bacon egg and cheese biscuit once in a while

92 I wonder if Ras will do another 2012 head-to-head poll soon.  I bet Palin is ahead of him in the next one.

93

Except in Manhattan.

Posted by: eman at December 13, 2009 01:12 PM (IERSf)

Tell me about it!  I don't know why it surprises me (it really shouldn't) how far, far to the left so many of my coworkers are. I used to me a non- thinking leftie too but then I looked around at all the people in the supermarket paying with food stamps, standing in line outside the welfare office, all the children coming out of bilingual education illiterates in two languages, etc. All the while I saw 30%- 45% of my paycheck disappearing every week in taxes. I concluded all this spending on "social programs" really did more harm than good. Then 9/11 occurred.  The only thing required to get  from being a liberal to a conservative was to opening my eyes, asking some questions and engaging my brain a little.  It wasn't that hard.  But I am surrounded by leftist statist diehards.  Then again I do work in the MSM. (Facepalm!!!)

94 I can't say I really "get" the bacon joke either, except it the perfect politically incorrect food, perhaps.  Does Obama have sausage with his waffling?  Of course politicians love pork, and they are hogs at the trough, so that link is not so favorable.

Bacon is good, just keep the pig farms a few miles from me ... one mile is too close when the wind is wrong.

95 johnc_recent_EX-democrat: "I'm sorta new here."

Nah. You've been here long enough now. I mean, praise for Darth Cheney? I do believe the reprogramming is complete. You're full-on Moron™. And now the Importance of Bacon has been imparted. Your journey is complete, young Jedi.

96 I agree, johnc!  You are one of us now, we're happy to have you on the team and no need for disclaimers any more!

Bummer about the bacon thing, though.  I couldn't live without the stuff myself.

97 And, we can look forward to photos of Bowbama in Dopenchangen, yucking it up with Mugabe, Chavez and Imdinnerjacket.  Yeah, that will go over well in the States, too.  Next Sunday, -22.

98 Hmmmmm.

From personal experience with some friends:

1. It's the end of the year.  Time for reflection, contemplation and scoring Obama.  Common wisdom had it that many people gave Obama a year to prove himself, end of year coming up, proof of incompetence is the only offering around.

2. End of year coming up and people are starting to consider that the past year has felt like 8 years ... and we've got 3 actual more years to go.  People are going "WTF!?  Three more years of this crap!??".

3. The whole "criticize Obama and you're a racist." has coupled with "criticize healthcare reform and you're a racist *and* a proponent of slavery" to result in "Fuck this crap!".

99 My question is... how many people dislike the One so much that indeed they would willingly contribute to a fund to impeach him?

I know I certainly would. Hell, I might even go door to door to collect signatures.

100 @68 Yeah, it is stating the bleeding obvious isn't it?

101 SUMMON THE BACONS

102

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 13, 2009 02:58 PM (50S+L)

lol, trust me a couple of years I was attending a couple of protests in DC against the darth vader.  Ya should see what HillBuzz has to say as well, we are stunned that this is the conclusion we have now come to, its like awakening from the Matrix or somehting like that.

But, ya know self-preservation can bring out the patriotism in a person like nothing else can!

103 Shibumi, while nothing would make me happier than to see him perp-walked out of the White House, don't we first need an impeachable offense? 

104

there's an impeach him fund??

where can I contribute??

105

"don't we first need an impeachable offense? "

calling the US Constitution "fundamentally flawed"

saying that our US military does the following: "air raiding villages and killing civilians"

 

106 A really nice effect of Obumble's bargain basement ratings?   The trolls seem to have run and hid.  At least I haven't seen any on the threads I'm reading. 

107 with blacks 15% of the population only 7% of the persuadable pe0ple are still strongly support him. can't fall much lower.

108 The Constitution defines an impeachable offense as treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.  I can't stand the thought of another "troofer" type movement against this guy.  It destroys our credibility.

109 And here I thought hobo was the moron/ettes' perfect food.  Guess I'll haveta throw this one back...

110 Last week Rush was making a very compelling argument that there is also a connection between the fall of Tiger and the plunge of the Pres' numbers. He saw a tie-in in that they are both utterly faked personas, driven by an "in the pocket" media. I am far too inarticulate to spell it out coherently but it sure was interesting...

111

Peaches, I gotta agree with you with the truther thing. Do I think he is not eligible? YEP!

but to for a political party to take this approach would be horrible, people are already pissed off at his marxist antiamerican policies, no need to make people feel sorry for him

BUT, if at a townhall meeting, a veteran directly questions him, why he won't show his BC or any college records, I am all for this!! An average citizen will have to expose him.

112 I still think polls like these represent the "damn lies" between "lies" and "statistics". That being said, I have been laid off AGAIN, and know exactly where a lot of the discontent about Obaka is coming from. If the Xmas economic figures don't make everything all rosy (fat chance there), the big news about Chappaquiddicare passing will turn into the Hindenburg instead of the Libtards' Willy Wonka balloon ride. The economy is limping along, and that situation is going to haunt the Democrats next year, irregardless of Teh Obamessiah's popularity rating or his foreign affairs gaffe of the month. If some of those libtards lose their jobs, can't get any, or suddenly realize that their Golden Boy ain't all he said he was, so much the better come poll-time in about 10 months.

113 116  I agree with everything you say here.  And I am still completely dumbfounded that not a single person with access to his college records has exposed them yet.  Still hoping for a deep throat on that issue.

114 Peaches, if he's impeached we get President Biden, and he gets to pick a VP.

If falling polar bears manage to to take out both at once, we get President Pelosi.

And if Osama pulled off the trifecta, we'd end up with President Clinton.

That's what's called defense in depth.  

Now, frankly, I think Biden would probably be a better president than Obama is (you'd have to go a long way down the food chain to find something that wouldn't be) but if someone's going to float impeachment against America's First President Of Color (tm) it'd better be an ironclad, unsinkable case.

115 peaches, the MSM knows just like they knew about Tiger's women. But they are covering up for the marxist.

116

you guys may not have been paying attention, but late 2007/ early 2008, Bill Clinton was quoted as saying "He;s not constitutionally qualified", that's about the time the raccist charge was started to be played against Hillary and Bill

so, do I think most of DC knows about this? YES.  Just like the MSM and golfers knew about Tiger's many women. They are covering for him.

117 johnc_recent_EX-democrat: "BUT, if at a townhall meeting, a veteran directly questions him... An average citizen will have to expose him."

Won't happen. Joe the Plumber moments cannot happen anymore. Obama is as choreographed and shielded as ever. He cannot possibly afford to meet with regular folk and his permanent campaign knows it. The guy won't even answer more than a question or two in relatively controlled audiences, and controlled audiences are Axelrod's forte. Remember Copenhagen and the Nobel speech? Two(!) questions from a universally sympathetic audience -- only one (!!) from American press. Pathetic.

Obama is running in plain sight. His action (or should I say the action of his managers) is dependent on operating in the shadows, aka Hopenchange Transparency.

118 so, do I think most of DC knows about this? YES

I have trouble buying into the conspiracy theory.  But, nothing would please me more than to see all the shit come out on this poseur, now that so many people, of every stripe, are losing their rose-colored glasses.

119

mmmmmmmmmmmm...bacon...

 

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....and cowbell...

 

http://tinyurl.com/y8sbhkt

 

120 @84 yeah, but in my life, politicians have changed their spots. As a matter of fact, they do it a lot. Whether Obama does it is up to him, I suppose. I agree, it would be a stretch, but it is within the realm of the possible.

121 ooops, wrong order....heh

122

peaches, I don't think it will ever come out, it take an enoumous effort to impeach someone.

But the important part is keeping it in people's consciouness, people will say "its just a birth certificate and college records, why the hell won't he realease them?".."WHy is he spending 2 million a year to cover up all his records?"

and that doubt will always stay in people's minds. and grow as he tries to cramp down all these anti-America marxist crap !

123 Yeah, JohnC, I changed a few minds prior to the election.  Not with big complex arguments, but just by asking people "Why don't we know anything about him except what comes out of his own mouth?"  Even here in California, where it really made no difference, that was the best way to get people to re-evaluate their unthinking enthusiasm for this fraud.

124 In a Mayoral run-off between two libtards in Houston, the lesbian won. 16% turn-out Let's not get all happy yet, we're still in the toilet bowl vortex.

125 still completely dumbfounded that not a single person with access to his college records has exposed them yet.

I'm sure the FBI and DOJ are watching access like hawks.  I wouldn't touch those records with a cattle prod from inside the university.

Now, if there were some off-site warehouse with tape backups somewhere that weren't being monitored...I'm just saying.

126

129

 She ran on a fiscally conservative platform!!! 

127 I still think Obama has the potential to be insanely popular. He is young, non-white, nice looking, nice family. The only thing holding him back is all this idiotic Leftist ideology. If he ditched that, watch out. Clinton ditched his.

Posted by: rawmuse at December 13, 2009 02:23 PM (SLMWU)

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What happened to Clinton when he did that? I wasn't politically aware back then. Did his base get all POd and scream that he'd sold out and then more of the moderates moved to his side?

128

I'm putting it on every thread.  It's worth it.

O/T  It's here!  It's here! The shinebox is here!

http://tinyurl.com/yd7ofd9

129 Oh, RushBabe, that's the best thing I've seen all week!  I love it!!

130 Larry Kudlow ALWAYS believes things will get better. I haven't paid attention to him in quite a while...

131 Repeat of my ONT on this same poll.

On that Rass link I liked this:

Yet a lot of the most vocal opposition to the Democratic initiatives isn’t coming from traditional Republican ranks but from so-called “Tea Party” critics. Therein lies a serious potential problem for the GOP because running under the Tea Party brand may be better in congressional races than being a Republican. In a three-way Generic Ballot test, Democrats attract 36% of the vote and the Tea Party candidate picks up 23%. Republicans finish dead last with 18%.

On F&F this morning they had a guy on there from a Teaparty group from somewhere. The Fox babe was badgering him about "hurting the GOP". His response was they want to take over the GOP.

I'm sure the big tent squishies just loved to hear that.

132 @132 Clinton turned to the Center - Right, he balanced the budget, he signed a lot of bills that came out of the Contract With America. The economy was rockin'. He ended Welfare as we Know It. He even said the Era of Big Government is Over, yes, he actually said that in an actual speech. His approval numbers were big. They only soured with Monicagate.

133 The Republican House had more to do with balancing the budget than Clinton. Keep in mind that it was Clinton who vetoed the bills causing the government shutdown.

Nope, Clinton was shit and his supposed "triangulation" and movement to the center was media BS hype. He may have not been as big a communist as Bambi but he was no centrist either.

134 Living in the Monterey Bay, it is one of the few places so infested with liberals that any insane policy could fail and these sheep would still rationalize it away. I think people in the other 40 or so states aren't terminally brain dead and now realize this guy is a nut regarding his political beliefs. Worse, they are figuring out he won't change his views no matter how bad it gets ( Monterey Bay syndrome). 42% is a staggering "strongly disapprove" number.

135

Seen this comment in the Calgary Sun about global propaganda and Obama, pretty much sums it up for me and i think the rest of the country. I also would add that ,for me, Tiger Woods and Obama are starting to like one in the same.....we are starting to see the truth about both of them come out and people are starting to lose hope and really starting to move out of the denial phase. I think Woods is making people believe that they can be had.... 

 

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The media's in their pocket, Hollywood's in their pocket, and the new U.S. president is a big-government whack job.

 

The nature of the program doesn't matter to him, just as long as it restricts economic and political liberty.

136 108 Shibumi, while nothing would make me happier than to see him perp-walked out of the White House, don't we first need an impeachable offense?

According to Wikipedia (unreliable, yes I know):

The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".

C'mon. It's been a year. There has to be some bribery or high crime going on in the Obama admin.

Here's my plan:

1. Retake House/ Senate
2. Discover Impeachable Offense
3. Impeach
4. Celebrate!

And yes, I know this means President Biden, but I do NOT believe he wants to destroy America.

137

A lot of people connect Obama with Tiger, rightly or wrongly.

Set aside the fact that Tiger has earned his position because of his talent and accomplishments.  Forgetting that, they both are silk pillow riders who were treated with godlike reverence.

Tiger's ignominious fall reminds some of the remaining Obama edge sitters that the boy king's mystique is all a sham and that he is a manufactured creation controlled by one-world wannabe arisotcrats who could give a shit about anybody but themselves..

 

138

141 And yes, I know this means President Biden, but I do NOT believe he wants to destroy America.

No, Biden's not the kind of guy who'd wreck the country on purpose, any more than Lucy meant to burn a hole in Ricky's favorite shirt on purpose.  And afterwards, the smoldering mess would be accompanied by an endearing "Waaaah!" and a wacky facial expression, so we'd just have to forgive him, the scamp.

139 This poll is fake. Obama can warp the space-time continuum with his MIND!

The science is settled, denialists!

140 @138 Vic, Clinton was personally responsible for flipping me over to the GOP, after I met him and shook his hand. I have no great love for him either. As for his political stance, ask a Lefty if they think he was a Leftist. For the most part, they consider him a Right wing sellout. It is largely a matter of semantics. Agree that it was Newt's Contract with America that won the House and Senate. Still waiting for some those promises to be kept.

141 12 It's interesting how nonlinear the process of disillusionment is.  What we are seeing now is the tipping point between "I voted for this guy and I don't want to admit what a sucker I was, so I'll keep praising him", to "I don't want to be the last one defending this bozo, so I'll turn on him now and start attacking those who still are".  Nice to see the deepseated principles at work with the left.

See, that's why I'm doing The Opposite. Worked for George Costanza

I figure in a few weeks I'll have enough cash rolling in to buy Ace's bandwidth provider out and ban all of you.

142 Rasmussen: Obama Sinks to New Low, BOY!FIFY

143

First Q: Who is the most outstanding male political figure?

I have a mancrush on Paul Ryan. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2009 01:25 PM (DPM1U)

I'd have to go with John Thune.

144 135 Larry Kudlow ALWAYS believes things will get better. I haven't paid attention to him in quite a while...

This? Just a flesh wound. I've had worse.

145 Obama is the new Hoover.  The Republicans will be able to run against this guy for the next 50 years.

146 I have a different theory about Obama's popularity: unless he constantly works on it and constantly campaigns, he'll always slide because there's nothing to it. He's not popular because he's doing popular things or because of his record - he has none. He's popular because people think he's likable and cool, and that fades as soon as he's out of sight.

147 people thought obama was like 2008 Tiger. now they know he is like 2009 tiger.

148 First, like others said its Christmas, and shopping for presents is way down because wages are down, people are worried about being laid off, the economy is junk. Second, Woods and Obama were both over-hyped "magical Black guys" ala the Spike Lee essay that were supposed to bring Rainbows and unicorns and instead brought icky sex scandals and economic depression. As for the economy, about 8 million jobs were lost, 6 million of them by men (75%). Just too keep up with population growth, we need 1.2 million jobs per year. Add Mexican illegal immigrants, that grows to about 3.2 million minimum (or more) per year. The highest job rate growth was under Reagan in 1984, with 4.5 million or 375,000 per month. This with massive tax and regulatory cuts AND massive job stimulus in massive ship and plane military build-up, along with nuclear weapons, PLUS breaking OPEC oil prices. Three factors at once stimulating jobs. It would take TWO YEARS starting in 2010 JUST TO GET BACK TO STATUS-QUO 2007! In terms of jobs lost. Reality -- it won't happen and a permanent (mostly male) unemployed underclass has been created. Obama's stimulus ($787 billion) spent $4 billion, less than 0.5%, on infrastructure. The rest went to pork and propping up mostly female State Health, Education, and Welfare employees via block grants. Meanwhile huge deficits create a real risk for bond holders that the US will simply inflate its way out of debt (making the bonds nearly worthless) or repudiate. Inflation is near-repudiation, making future debt hideously expensive as the market for it degrades to junk status like Greece. Current Deficit went from Bush's 300 billion to 1.2 trillion and counting. Kudlow's dreaming, the Oct figures were 15.7 million officially unemployed, the Nov figures 15.4 million. What happened to the 300,000 thousand? Move back to Mexico? Get jobs in an alternate reality? Or just drop off the seeking employment lists (reality). Meanwhile China has 2.4 trillion USD stimulus excess production it has to dump, and keep the renmenbi devalued. Economies create high-wage jobs when productivity (low taxes, low regs, low cost of capital and low cost of energy) rises. How the hell is that happening with ObamaCare and cap and trade? Prediction: double-dip recession in 2010, unemployment officially hits 12% or more (with over 20% real rate), as States run out of Block grants and have to dump employees, more and more business investment goes to China and India. Inflation hits after the effect of China's dumping (deflationary) recedes. Prices of ordinary goods skyrocket while wages stagnate (stagflation).

149 Health care debate. People are watching. Repubs are winning. They are making their points.  Approval going down.

150 Thanks for the great post.

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151
It will be interesting to see how things unfold. Can we outlast Obama before Obama turns into a nybrid of Putin and Chavez? I dunno. It's gonna be close.


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