Ace of Spades HQ

December 19, 2009

Reidcare Taxes Tanning Salons Too
— Gabriel Malor

Oy. Earlier I posted on the phony tort reform in Reid's version of healthcare reform which will make healthcare more expensive. Now let's talk about its tax on indoor tanning. Yes, ReidCare imposes a ten percent tax on ultraviolet tanning at tanning salons.

Tanning causes cancer (except for those studies that say it doesn't; whatever), so Democrats link tanning to healthcare and voila: tax it. Hey, never pass up an opportunity to tax something that idiots will say should be illegal. This is fairly banal creeping socialism: the government should discourage stuff that's legal but not good for you by tax and regulation. In other words, these are mincing steps toward making it illegal. (See Smoking, indoors, in the presence of children, in your own car, etc.)

Entirely facetious observation: isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type?

UPDATE [DiT]: More Taxes! Here's a comprehensive rundown on additional taxes and penalties (taxes) imposed in the Reid-Obama version of the health bill (via eddiebear).

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 11:45 PM | Comments (226)
Post contains 179 words, total size 1 kb.

1 isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type? Asians? (I keed, I keed)

Posted by: wherestherum at December 19, 2009 11:47 PM (gofDd)

2 There's a crazy women in Alaska that got one of these illegal contraptions.

Posted by: I sea kittens at December 19, 2009 11:49 PM (bAL0J)

3 Seriously, though, while I don't like the smell of cig smoke, I'm against all of these bans, esp the ones banning smoking on private property, e.g. your car, your home, etc. They're already coming after what we can and can't eat.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 19, 2009 11:49 PM (gofDd)

4 Be ready to see an increase in orange people as spray on tans become more popular.

Posted by: Z Ryan at December 19, 2009 11:54 PM (cMo6P)

5 This is fairly banal creeping socialism: the government should discourage stuff that's legal but not good for you by tax and regulation.

Whether one believes this, or not, it is mooted by the fact that the federal government has no business in any of this. Most of the interactions between the government and the individual are relegated to the states and health care/insurance/... is certainly a slice of that.

This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution. It shall never be domesticated, again.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 19, 2009 11:57 PM (A46hP)

6 It will only get worse when the government pays for health care. Then we'll all be expenses instead of citizens. We already see that in CA with helmet laws.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 20, 2009 12:03 AM (LtIsn)

7 I really freaking hate nanny laws. Waste of time and effort. Why do I have to pay for someone else's stupidity?

Posted by: wherestherum at December 20, 2009 12:06 AM (gofDd)

8 "Entirely facetious observation: isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type?"

And Alaskans . . .

Posted by: Little Miss Attila at December 20, 2009 12:12 AM (saBHO)

9 Hey it's not like it's your body , it shall be returned to the government when it stops paying taxes.

Posted by: I sea kittens at December 20, 2009 12:15 AM (bAL0J)

10 "Entirely facetious observation: isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type?" You mean Italian-Americans? Yes, I have been watching "Jersey Shore"

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at December 20, 2009 12:22 AM (4Gg3E)

11 they put this in to replace the plastic surgery tax.....

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 20, 2009 12:28 AM (d1FhN)

12 see all the taxes here: http://tinyurl.com/ybahetx

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 20, 2009 12:30 AM (d1FhN)

13 It's all about keeping the Alaskans barefoot, pregnant, and Vitamin D deficient.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2009 12:36 AM (u+gbs)

14 ||| Tanning causes cancer (except for those studies that say it doesn't; whatever)

That brings to mind the issue of cell phones. The W.H.O. says they cause cancer. Why didn't Reid and Co. do anything about them? And, for good measure, how long do we have until the cell phone equivalent of the Tobacco class action lawsuits? I'd like to be first in line to get mah check.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 20, 2009 12:40 AM (+deq6)

15 I'm pretty sure somewhere in the Democrats platform it says "if it moves, tax it"

Posted by: Doc at December 20, 2009 12:40 AM (rzJpR)

16 What tha fuuck??

Posted by: Mike "The Situation" at December 20, 2009 12:41 AM (muUqs)

17 if it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 20, 2009 12:44 AM (d1FhN)

18 It's been speculated on by other people than myself but what about guns, they're a health care menace. "Millions" of "children" (gang bangers) getting killed by guns every year, they're a scourge on health care, something must be done. Don't kid yourself, these commies will stop at nothing to push their agenda.

Posted by: Pocono Joe at December 20, 2009 12:54 AM (gEKbt)

19 Screw it, we're all doomed. Time to go all in fascism. We're just gonna have to present a kinder, gentler way of goose stepping into a man's home and demanding his papers. That's what it's all gonna come down to now.

Posted by: Robert at December 20, 2009 01:14 AM (usB50)

20 I suppose it's possible to view the government demanding the payment of money under threat of imprisonment as a tax.

But you have to really, really want it.

Posted by: bgates at December 20, 2009 01:22 AM (AKY4c)

21 What'll that asshole think of next? Somebody better go get a shitload of dimes.

Posted by: Mr. Taggart at December 20, 2009 01:27 AM (KpYkl)

22 Outrageous! Gird your loins for the Million Guido March, Washington! This shall not stand!

Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at December 20, 2009 01:59 AM (j6H6o)

23 Be ready to see an increase in orange people as spray on tans become more popular.

Posted by: Z Ryan at December 20, 2009 03:54 AM (cMo6P)

With that, those mojlke pants, and hair curlers, we can become a nation of oompa loompas in no time at all.

Posted by: Bill H at December 20, 2009 02:25 AM (q8CmE)

This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution. It shall never be domesticated, again.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 20, 2009 03:57 AM (A46hP)

Nice turn of phrase. I think I'll use it with no attribution. But does this mean we're authorized to shoot it when we see it sniffing around our garbage?

Posted by: FUBAR at December 20, 2009 02:28 AM (1fanL)

25 With that, those mojlke pants, and hair curlers, we can become a nation of oompa loompas in no time at all.

I was thinking professional wrestlers, but that works too.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at December 20, 2009 02:28 AM (+gX1+)

Entirely facetious observation: isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type?

Wouldn't that be unconstitutional since it's obviously racist. Well maybe not since that doesn't seem to work in the reverse direction. Never mind.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 20, 2009 02:55 AM (JKGfQ)

27 Hmm, given that modern nutrition research seems to implicate Vitamin D deficiency as the Root of All Evil, and that it's pretty much impossible in the winter for anyone north of the Mason-Dixon Line to get enough naturally (particularly if they're African-American), isn't this a tax on health care?

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at December 20, 2009 03:07 AM (7mJ90)

28 The thing not mentioned is that the tanning tax REPLACED the Botox tax. Think Pelosi had a word with Reid?

Posted by: enoxo at December 20, 2009 04:00 AM (pBYUX)

I've always suspected deep down they hate tan people.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2009 04:01 AM (7FgWm)

30 Not Reidcare, we need to paint all of them with this horseshit. Maybe something like Democare. The number one thing that needs to happen when sane people get control of congress is an ironclad law that FORBIDS them from exempting themselves from crap they impose on everyone else

Posted by: TC at December 20, 2009 04:09 AM (QXKjZ)

31 Laughing hysterically

Posted by: The Sun at December 20, 2009 04:09 AM (7FgWm)

32 Going to a tanning salon to get a base tan in the Spring, or before a beach holiday reduces the incidence of severe sunburn that has been linked to the big Copenhagen

Posted by: nine coconuts at December 20, 2009 04:13 AM (DHNp4)

33

Here's my idea:

Want an automatic transmission instead of a more fuel efficient standard? Fine -- but it'll cost you a $2,000 carbon tax. Want air conditioning in your vehicle? That'll be another $2,000. An engine larger than four cylinders? Sure, for $500 per cylinder. Towing package on a truck? That'll be $2,000 to offset the pollution you cause towing your boat around. Rent a U-HAUL trailer? There will be a $100 carbon tax added onto the rental fee.

Taxing toothbrushes and tanning sessions are just baby steps. They've got a brave new world waiting for you.

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 04:54 AM (7+pP9)

34 I wish the Republican leadership would announce that as soon as they control Congress, they'll make Nebraska pay it's share of government Deathcare costs, including past payments missed with interest. It seems so obvious, I have no idea why they don't piss on Nelson's "sweetheart deal" like that.

Posted by: National Educators Association at December 20, 2009 04:58 AM (QECjC)

35 sex can result in unwanted pregnancy, STDs, etc. Are they gonna tax f***ing?

Posted by: Jones at December 20, 2009 04:58 AM (JL3qV)

In other news, it appears that the Texas governor's race was decided this weekend.

http://tinyurl.com/yl5p7sr

Posted by: Countrysquire at December 20, 2009 04:59 AM (PQ67Y)

37 @1: nah, you Asian chicks have a built in tan, rummy!

Posted by: National Educators Association at December 20, 2009 05:02 AM (QECjC)

38
It's all about the taxes, stupid.

The CBO assessment of the bill tells the appalling story. We are going to raise taxes by half a trillion dollars over the next ten years, increase spending by more than a trillion dollars, cut Medicare by $470 billion but use that money to fund a new entitlement rather than to fix Medicare itself, bend the health care cost curve up rather than down, insert layers of bureaucracy between doctors and patients, and compel and subsidize universal participation in a failed system of health insurance rather than reform or improve it.

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 05:03 AM (0fzsA)

39 Project this out to it's ultimate conclusion, and you know what we end up with, don't you?

That right.

Titty Tax.

Posted by: SlaveDog at December 20, 2009 05:04 AM (W+E+o)

40 Sockpuppet /Off!

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 20, 2009 05:10 AM (QECjC)

4 Be ready to see an increase in orange people as spray on tans become more popular.

As in so many other things, John Kerry (AKA the Terror of Cambodia) was waaaaay out in front on this one!

Posted by: sherlock at December 20, 2009 05:28 AM (ktKOD)

42 What else can we expect from a bunch of tax and spend liberal demacrats anyway and SCARY HARRY REID is no eception

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 20, 2009 05:32 AM (3//V4)

43 Where I live, the overwhelming majority of people getting their "skin cancer in training" are college pukes. Y'know, the same ones who got all warm & squishy over Obama.

Pardon me while I laugh my pale ass off.

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at December 20, 2009 05:32 AM (KWhJd)

44 Start a dust up today....

Call dem senators that voted for this (use their zip) and ask why they didn't get sweetheart deal for your state that Nelson and Landreiu got.....Why should you have to pay for their smarts.....

This might cause a slow down on all of this.

Git r done.....let's roll

Posted by: non_dhimmie at December 20, 2009 05:34 AM (zACGu)

If you don't want to pay the cigarette tax, don't smoke. If you don't want to pay a tanning tax, stay pale. These are taxes of choice. And if my costs go up because idiots want to do these things, then they should pay a little more.

BTW, isn't tanning a luxury???

Posted by: JEA at December 20, 2009 05:34 AM (iJcBs)

46 Meanwhile, I'm bracing myself for all the "news stories" about how the Blizzard of '09 is really just Proof Positive of Global Warming.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 20, 2009 05:35 AM (QECjC)

47 Meanwhile, I'm bracing myself for all the "news stories" about how the Blizzard of '09 is really just Proof Positive of Global Warming.

It's climate change, not global warming. That way they're right no matter what the weather!

Posted by: Tom in Korea at December 20, 2009 05:40 AM (+gX1+)

48
The cool thing about Democrats taxing everything to death, is that eventually, much of what they tax goes out of business, and then the tax revenue dries up. What's the answer? More taxes!

Those democrats- so clever! Please take our money. We are happy slaves!

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 05:44 AM (0fzsA)

49 It's all about keeping the Alaskans barefoot, pregnant, and Vitamin D deficient.

And depressed. I have a friend who was prescribed tanning by a shrink to combat Seasonal Affective Disorder in the low-light months.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 05:50 AM (6USny)

50 "The number one thing that needs to happen when sane people get control of congress is an ironclad law that FORBIDS them from exempting themselves from crap they impose on everyone else."

That should be one of the planks in the conservatives campaign platform in 2010.

Meanwhile, the bill has to go back to the House and then back to the Senate.
I'm betting it happens so fast that it will be a legislative record.

Posted by: Gmac at December 20, 2009 05:51 AM (RSxCs)

51 why not tax anything that can be considered a luxury by others, lets choose somalia as the standard for what is a luxury/

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2009 05:51 AM (7FgWm)

52 BTW, isn't tanning a luxury???

So what if it is? Is that a reason to destroy thousands of small businesses and put their employees on the dole?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 05:53 AM (6USny)

53 Some think it's OK that gubmint imposes these so-called sin taxes, because it doesn't affect them directly. They, of course, live a healthy lifestyle and do not indulge in such self-destructive nonsense. That's wonderful, and to be admired, I suppose. But it's important to remember that that incremental socialism never draws a line in the sand. These neo-Marxists aren't going to just stop one day and declare they are satiated. One by one, what are considered "choices" or non-essential activities will be taxed. Then one day, something that you indulge in and hold near and dear to your heart will fall under the confiscatory umbrella. You can count on that, as sure as the sun sets in the West.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 20, 2009 05:56 AM (554T5)

54 lets choose somalia as the standard for what is a luxury Trade in your refrigerator for an AK-47.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2009 05:56 AM (4Kl5M)

55 Yet they got rid of the tax on Botox. I guess Granny Botox didn't want to pay more for her next treatment.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2009 05:58 AM (s7Ak2)

56 If wish we could tax graft. The Leftists would finally be paying their fair share.

Posted by: lincolntf at December 20, 2009 05:58 AM (EJAGr)

Democrats say, "Bring on your white suburban tanowners. We do not fear that wacky wingnut subculture."

Proof positive that the erstwhile "party of the pipples" has gone totally insane.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at December 20, 2009 06:00 AM (FF38Z)

58 The bill taxes wheelchairs, oxygen tanks and dialysis machines, too--but they're luxuries, so what the hell.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 06:01 AM (6USny)

59

Tinian,

Who benefits from the $6,600 dollars that you just imposed on me. Certainly it will not go toward better roads & bridges, It won't lower my health insurance bill. I won't make gasoline or electricity any cheaper.

Most likely it will go into some fat cats or man-bear-pigs bank account. Carbon taxing & trading is a big lie.

Posted by: sTevo at December 20, 2009 09:06 AM (eA3tl)

Creating "Green Jobs", subsidizing wind & solar energy, subsidizing ethanol production, etc. Why do you think GE is in the tank for Obama?

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 06:01 AM (7+pP9)

60 The thing with 'sin taxes' is that anything can be considered a 'sin' if it doesn't fit the behavior the elites want normal folks to be doing at any given time.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at December 20, 2009 06:02 AM (+gX1+)

61 The thing with 'sin taxes' is that anything can be considered a 'sin' if it doesn't fit the behavior the elites want normal folks to be doing at any given time.

Western Civilization ended when eating food became a "sin" and fucking anything that moves became "healthy self-expression." IMO.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 06:03 AM (6USny)

62

60 The bill taxes wheelchairs, oxygen tanks and dialysis machines, too--but they're luxuries, so what the hell.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 10:01 AM (6USny)

It also taxes toothbrushes, which are definitely a luxury in the U.K.

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 06:04 AM (7+pP9)

63

I'm serious in post #34. If cap & tax gets passed it'll only be a matter of time. We're looking at a preview right now.

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 06:06 AM (7+pP9)

64 Creating "Green Jobs", subsidizing wind & solar energy, subsidizing ethanol production, etc. Why do you think GE is in the tank for Obama?

There are no "green" or "non-green" jobs. There are only jobs.
Subsidizing solar/wind, etc. is progress? Taking money from taxpayers and giving it to environmental profiteers so that they can build a business which will then charge taxpayers more money for energy? This helps who? This helps the economy how?

Posted by: lincolntf at December 20, 2009 06:06 AM (EJAGr)

65

There are no "green" or "non-green" jobs. There are only jobs.
Subsidizing solar/wind, etc. is progress? Taking money from taxpayers and giving it to environmental profiteers so that they can build a business which will then charge taxpayers more money for energy? This helps who? This helps the economy how?

Posted by: lincolntf at December 20, 2009 10:06 AM (EJAGr)

Looks like somebody isn't interested in a clean planet for his grandchildren.

/sarc

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 06:08 AM (7+pP9)

66 Western Civilization ended when eating food became a "sin" and fucking anything that moves became "healthy self-expression."

The lefty war on trans fat is a perfect example. In one fell swoop, a lot of restaurant food was rendered nearly inedible in the name of protecting us from ourselves. And don't get me started on the second part of your excellent observation. If there was somehow a way to impose a tax on promiscuity and debauchery, the left would go nuclear.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 20, 2009 06:11 AM (554T5)

I agree with the comment above that we should call our Senators & demand all the same stuff that Ben Nelson got for our state.

yeah, I know that the budget signed this week is porky, but Sen Nelson got the Medicaid mandate for Nebraska paid for FOREVER. that is HUGE!

obviously, Va. Sen Mark Warner & Jim Webb are not as smart as Ben Nelson.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at December 20, 2009 06:13 AM (TEIZr)

68 Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 10:08 AM (7+pP9)

All of the so-called "green" proposals are so economically disastrous that AGW had to be invented to justify them.

Posted by: lincolntf at December 20, 2009 06:14 AM (EJAGr)

69 Soap--imagine trying to explain to any of the Founders that food is a dangerous substance that government has to tax for the good of society, while promiscuity is something government should encourage. I know a lot of Founders had voracious appetites of both types, but never got a feeling that they believed government had a right to control what went into or out of indivual bodies.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 06:17 AM (6USny)

70 The always laughable part of vice taxes outside of alcohol is that reductions in behavior always lead to decreased revenues.

My example: all of the now under-funded mandates and programs that depended on tobacco taxes for revenue.

Posted by: Techie at December 20, 2009 06:19 AM (zbH+i)

71 You guys can complain all you want about the tanning salon tax. As far as I'm concerned, as long as they leave the intimate massage parlors alone, it's all good. I draw the line at the massage parlors.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 20, 2009 06:20 AM (r1h5M)

What has alwaus frustrated me the "It's for the keeds and other folk", seat belt laws. while i particularly think it's wise to wear a seat belt. the criteria they use to "save us from ourselves" is the Law , penalties, fines.. while city transport, school buses full of all our adorable little ones are exempt from penalty.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2009 06:26 AM (7FgWm)

73 3 years from now, when many tanning parlors are out of business and tax revenue is down from that stream. the Dems will go "Who could have possibly envisioned this?"

Posted by: Techie at December 20, 2009 06:27 AM (zbH+i)

74 I guess on the plus side - if they don't have to follow the law, neither do I.

Posted by: Terry at December 20, 2009 06:28 AM (Vui52)

75 Why are you all so defeatist? I don't get this. Are we Russians now? Are we serfs? Trading one master for another? This makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Drusilla at December 20, 2009 06:29 AM (SFp6y)

76

The ethics committee just let Murtha, Dicks and Moran off the hook.

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 06:29 AM (7+pP9)

77 A tax on tanning beds is a ruse anyway. Within a few years it will be illegal to purchase the UV light bulbs they use, similar to what they are doing with incandescent light bulbs.
What makes anyone think they will allow anything but energy efficient bulbs to be used anywhere?

Posted by: Eric at December 20, 2009 06:29 AM (Qc/s6)

I agree with the comment above that we should call our Senators & demand all the same stuff that Ben Nelson got for our state.

One of those talking heads on FOX News Sunday addressed this (Kent Conrad?) and said that future congresses can nullify something done by an earlier one (so this was just a smokescreen for Nelson to his Nebraska constituents).

Posted by: RushBabe at December 20, 2009 06:31 AM (LKkE8)

76 Since we're talking taxes in general. Here's the predicament we're in. The cost of the federal government and it's assorted unfunded liabilities are unsustainable, even without this clusterfuck of healthcare reform. The question is, what are we going to do about it?

Ah, Grasshopper, you're approaching the end game of lib logic, but you're not quite there yet. They know all of this will collapse the system, and that's the goal. When everything goes down, you'll knuckle under oh-so-easily to whatever Uncle sugar dictates will be the new USSA. It's the top-down Cloward-Piven.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 20, 2009 06:36 AM (LKkE8)

80 In Australia tanning salons can't legally serve people with Type 1 (pale and freckly) skin. No one has yet explained to me how this is not racist.

Posted by: seph at December 20, 2009 06:36 AM (Vv9uT)

81 What makes anyone think they will allow anything but energy efficient bulbs to be used anywhere?

Places White Liberals Like will get exemptions. For example, the home of the Milwaukee Symphony has thousands of round incandescent bulbs in the interior as part of the building's design. They're never going to replace those with cold curly bulbs.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 06:38 AM (6USny)

82 future congresses can nullify something done by an earlier one

They can, but they won't. They wouldn't even tweak Social Security with a majority in both houses and a POTUS who suggested it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 06:40 AM (6USny)

83 These crappy new lightbulbs are a major technological step backwards.
Produce worse light, more expensive, harder to manufacture, etc.
Only a Lefty would call that progress. Dipshits.

Posted by: lincolntf at December 20, 2009 06:45 AM (EJAGr)

84 Tanning beds aren't the only things taxed. Look at some of the other shitty taxes buried deep within this bill.

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 06:45 AM (vrvMS)

85 Outstanding brief prÃ©cis of Hellcare at American Thinker: http://tinyurl.com/yck6bfh Half a trillion in Medicare and similar cuts plus a half a trillion in new taxes and fines equals Demotard compassion. It's the bastard child of Scrooge and a drunken sailor. Remember the old days when a measly hundred billion or so in deficits for the ENTIRE FEDERAL BUDGET under Boooosh gave leftards the vapors? Good times.

Posted by: George Orwell at December 20, 2009 06:46 AM (AZGON)

86 We also need to tax outdoor swimming pools and beaches. And ski resorts. As for this question - "isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type?" there's a good idea. How about a poll tax on that type?

Posted by: Zimriel at December 20, 2009 06:54 AM (N8KrH)

87 I agree with #31, calling it Democare or Democratcare is the way to name this beast and at the same time let people know who is responsible.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 06:54 AM (8NGHm)

88 Yet another reason for conservatives to move south.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 06:56 AM (dQdrY)

89 Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 10:45 AM (vrvMS)

Taxes on Innovator Drug Companies and Medical Device Manufacturers? Does that mean what I think it does?

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at December 20, 2009 06:57 AM (8Ipnv)

90 Yeah this is just what we need, our betters telling us what is a "luxury" and taxing us for doing it. Fuck these people.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 20, 2009 06:57 AM (V/EYZ)

91 Tanning beds aren't the only things taxed.

There's a tax on charitable hospitals?!

Charity, another danger to society that needs to be eliminated by the government.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 06:58 AM (6USny)

92 "There's a tax on charitable hospitals?!" Are you fucking kidding me?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 20, 2009 07:00 AM (V/EYZ)

93 But you know, giving free/sliding fee care to poor people is a luxury, so it's OK to tax it... (where's that troll JEA?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:00 AM (6USny)

94 94: I have it as pacemakers being taxed.

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 07:01 AM (vrvMS)

95 Mr. Pink--it's in this link from eddiebear's post.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:01 AM (6USny)

96 Wait, how can they tax charitable hospitals? Those are run by non-profits, right?

Posted by: Techie at December 20, 2009 07:01 AM (zbH+i)

97 Pacemakers are luxuries...you should just go home and wait for a fatal arrythmia.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:02 AM (6USny)

98 101 Wait, how can they tax charitable hospitals? Those are run by non-profits, right? Yeah only Acorn deserves to keep its non-profit status.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 20, 2009 07:03 AM (V/EYZ)

99 oh, and not that it'll matter, but Ben Nelson violated his no tax pledge by supporting this bill.

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 07:03 AM (vrvMS)

100 A "medical devise" includes many things.
Toothbrushes and Tampax are included under that name.

Posted by: fightobama at December 20, 2009 07:03 AM (6IV8T)

101 That'd be like sticking restaurant taxes on a soup kitchen.

Posted by: Techie at December 20, 2009 07:04 AM (zbH+i)

102 It's just plain evil.

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2009 07:04 AM (yf/JJ)

103 I'd just rebrand as an "accelerated plant growth center".

"Of course you can join your plant in the chamber madame. We wouldn't want it to get lonely. Just remember -- its all about the plant, not you"

"Of course we have loaner plants sir, we fully understand that some customers may not have space for one at home yet feel the need to connect with and nurture one on occasion. We're here for you."

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 20, 2009 07:05 AM (ylM0p)

104 Charities are unnecessary. Big Brother will take care of all your needs...or else.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 07:06 AM (dQdrY)

105 Will they put a TAX on Ted Kennedy's Olds 88. It causes death.

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 07:07 AM (Vqruj)

106 109 Charities are unnecessary. Big Brother will take care of all your needs...or else. Obama is charity.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 20, 2009 07:09 AM (V/EYZ)

107 Lowering health care costs by raising taxes on medical devices! Brilliant!

Posted by: lincolntf at December 20, 2009 07:11 AM (EJAGr)

108 "...isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type?

Sounds like RACISM and PROFILING to me!

Posted by: GarandFan at December 20, 2009 07:12 AM (ZQBnQ)

109 and ? I mean really who cares about that ? Do YOU use tanning salons ?

Posted by: John ryan at December 20, 2009 07:12 AM (mhD2v)

110 Morning, M&Ms! I'm so grateful for the good company here as that bastard Obama goes pedal to the metal down the highway to hell.

Posted by: Peaches at December 20, 2009 07:13 AM (9Wv2j)

111 oh, and I know this is a broken record by now, but look at the way the UK NHS is being run in a gee whiz manner.

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 07:13 AM (vrvMS)

112 Someone should explain the whole liberty thing to John ryan.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:15 AM (6USny)

113 I mean really who cares about that ? Do YOU use tanning salons ?

Posted by: John ryan at December 20, 2009 11:12 AM (mhD2v)

I care, John. I care about every single chip out of the column of liberty, be it ever so small. They add up, as you well know, you dishonest POS.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 07:15 AM (dQdrY)

114 114: it isn'tt he tanning salon itself; it's the trickle down effect of Government meddling and punishing everything. Also, you tax tanning salons, people quit going, and people lose their jobs. And not just the 18 year old working the desk at the salon is hurt. The people who make the tanning products, the realtors stuck with that building, the people who ship said tanning products, etc. Just look at Clinton's Yacht Tax and how it ruined the luxury shipbuilding industry and cost people jobs then.

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 07:16 AM (vrvMS)

115 114 and ? I mean really who cares about that ? Do YOU use tanning salons ? " Can we call them fucking fascists yet?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 20, 2009 07:18 AM (V/EYZ)

116 Not to mention the legitimate health uses--Vitamin D, seasonal affective disorder. But there's no surprise that assholes who think kidney dialysis filters and pacemakers are "luxury items" won't care about mental health or rickets.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:21 AM (6USny)

117 Will those count as jobs "created" or "saved"?

Posted by: Techie at December 20, 2009 07:21 AM (zbH+i)

118

"created".

OsamaHusseinIslamObama 2012ÂÂŒ
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-ItÂfs never too early to campaign-

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!!!) at December 20, 2009 07:31 AM (FZQhf)

119 umm..

http://tinyurl.com/ycafmmx

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 07:32 AM (vrvMS)

120 Someone should go to Ben Nelson's office and play this song. http://tinyurl.com/cenfvd

Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at December 20, 2009 07:37 AM (mxBRR)

121
"We really need some kind of a public option . . . there hasn't been much fight from the White House on that . . . this is the real sticking point." Â— Howard Dean on Meet the Press

Right. Because this trillion dollar tax-hike/Democrat crony thief-fest isn't big enough. We really need to bend the nation over and F*** it's collective chimney.
Hard. More.

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 07:37 AM (0fzsA)

122 Clinton's Yacht Tax? Wrong- That was one of those taxes passed under "Read My Lips" Bush. Although it was a con job by the Democratskis, he fell for it.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 07:38 AM (8NGHm)

123 87 future congresses can nullify something done by an earlier one

They can, but they won't. They wouldn't even tweak Social Security with a majority in both houses and a POTUS who suggested it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 10:40 AM (6USny)

I can't see reps from 49 other states agreeing to pick up the tab for Nebraska in the years to come.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 20, 2009 07:39 AM (LKkE8)

124
How about the Demi Moore/Ashton Kutcher "I pledge to serve Obama"
... 95% celebrity tax?

It could save lives. It could save America!

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 07:42 AM (0fzsA)

125 Mallamutt--Obama already advocates a federal soda tax (on top of the taxes 29 states already impose).

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:42 AM (6USny)

126 I can't see reps from 49 other states agreeing to pick up the tab for Nebraska in the years to come.

They'll remove the state funding requirements from Medicaid entirely before they repeal the whole Democrapcare bill.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:45 AM (6USny)

127 129: shit. My bad. But it did f*ck up the industry.

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 07:45 AM (vrvMS)

128 Will abortions be taxed? They claim to want less of those.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 07:46 AM (dQdrY)

129 Who claims to want less abortions?

Given the abortion-breast cancer links, I think we can tax them using the same rationale as tobacco and tanning-bed taxes...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 07:51 AM (6USny)

130 Eddiebear, that tax bill passed in 1990 is the main reason GHW Bush was defeated in '92.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 07:56 AM (8NGHm)

131 Will representatives also be subject to the tax? Or will they still be able to get that "just sun kissed" look, gratis?

Posted by: curious at December 20, 2009 07:57 AM (p302b)

132 Or will they still be able to get that "just sun kissed" look, gratis?

Posted by: curious at December 20, 2009 11:57 AM (p302b)

Tax payer funded, fact finding trips to the Bahamas.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:00 AM (dQdrY)

133 Mallmutt, you're scaring me.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 08:00 AM (6USny)

134 Mr Pink. EXACTLY.

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 08:02 AM (Vqruj)

135

John Ryan is indicative of how fucking stupid LIBTARDS are.

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 08:03 AM (Vqruj)

136 If the Dems tax fast food, how will Jerrold Nadler survive?

Posted by: eddiebear at December 20, 2009 08:07 AM (vrvMS)

137

Gay male sex. Now there is a dangerous practice. How much should we TAX that?

I'm just trying to be "FAIR:"

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 08:08 AM (Vqruj)

138 Seriously, conservatives need to move south. Bring your weapons and gold. We are not that many years of illegal immigration away from turning blue ourselves. Then, who you gonna call?

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:09 AM (dQdrY)

139 This is an abomination! If the good people of Florida send me to Washington, I will make tax-free tanning my life's mission.

Posted by: Charlie Crist at December 20, 2009 08:09 AM (9Wv2j)

140 May be they should also consider the ass bleaching (cancer), barber shaving ( bacteria), nail salons (fungus), haircuts (lice), waxing (skin reactions) and every single shitty thing which touches your body in any way and "may" cause problems. Oh, and don't forget microwaves. Remember? They're oooh-so-dangerous.

Posted by: Shawarma Wife at December 20, 2009 08:09 AM (SHRYf)

141 Weirdness from Politico:

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad said Sunday that itÂ’s the Senate bill, or nothing at all, when it comes to health care reform.

"It is very clear that the final bill that passed in the United States Senate is going have to be very close to the bill that is being negotiated here," the North Dakota Democrat said on Â“Fox News Sunday.Â” "Otherwise you will not get 60 votes in the United States Senate.Â”

But the White House has suggested that the Senate bill, which has drawn heated criticism from liberal Democrats in the House, may still change when it is reconciled with the House health care bill.

Writing in SundayÂ’s New York Times opinion page, Vice President Joe Biden said that Â“I share the frustration of other progressives that the Senate bill does not include a public option,Â” but suggested nothing is set in stone just yet. Â“If the bill passes the Senate this week,Â” wrote Biden, Â“there will be more chances to make changes to it before it becomes law. But if the bill dies this week, there is no second chance to vote yes.Â”

And senior White House Adviser David Axelrod took a similar line on ABCÂ’s "This Week," suggesting the administration prefers the HouseÂ’s abortion compromise, saying Â“once the Senate passes this bill, obviously there's work to be done. The House has its version; the Senate has its version. They have to agree, and we're going to have to go through one more round.Â”

I can't figure out how seriously to take this. Does this mean the Dems still have a problem in the House??

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 20, 2009 08:12 AM (+deq6)

142 So... since abortion is going to be part of this bill, does that mean that all the Catholic hospitals in the US are going to close? And if so, who will that hurt? Minorities you say? But Democrats love minorities? What? You say that's a myth? Damn you and your magical logic!

Posted by: shibumi at December 20, 2009 08:13 AM (OKZrE)

143 These sonsabitches better not mess with my tan!!!!

Posted by: George Hamilton at December 20, 2009 08:13 AM (wDAko)

144 If anyone thinks their going to change it by dramatically reducing the size of government, I got a bridge to sell you.

Don't you mean "If anyone thinks their [sic] going to change it by dramatically reducing the size of government, I got a senate seat to sell you."?

I really, really, really want that to become a common turn of phrase.

Posted by: InCali at December 20, 2009 08:14 AM (PFubb)

145 You guys are overreacting - all is well.

We agree.

Posted by: Rainbows at December 20, 2009 08:16 AM (554T5)

146 152 May be they should also consider the ass bleaching (cancer), barber shaving ( bacteria), nail salons (fungus), haircuts (lice), waxing (skin reactions) and every single shitty thing which touches your body in any way and "may" cause problems. Oh, and don't forget microwaves. Remember? They're oooh-so-dangerous.

What the hell.

Let's just tax breathing.

Oh wait, that's already in the Cap and Tax bill...

Posted by: shibumi at December 20, 2009 08:17 AM (OKZrE)

147 I heard they are increasing taxes on 40 oz containers of malt liquor and geri curl just to be fair.

Posted by: kansas at December 20, 2009 08:17 AM (i0WE5)

148

AP Poll: Most see climate change as serious

WASHINGTON Â— Three of every four Americans view climate change as a serious problem that will harm future generations if not addressed, according to an Associated Press-Stanford University poll.

The survey also said that about the same number of people say the Earth probably already is warming, slightly fewer than the percentage expressing that view when asked the same question a year ago.

The AP-Stanford poll of 1,005 adults contacted by telephone in November suggests that people's concerns about climate change have not changed significantly.

---------

Isn't it amazing how the AP can pull a poll out of its ass within two of another poll contradicting liberal orthodoxy? And on any subject?

How do they work that magic?

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 08:18 AM (7+pP9)

149

9 Hey it's not like it's your body , it shall be returned to the government when it stops paying taxes.

My Dad asked to be cremated because he said if we didn't he was sure the government would figure out a way to bring him back so they could tax him more. Honest.

Posted by: kansas at December 20, 2009 08:19 AM (i0WE5)

150 What is "ass bleaching," and why would one need it? Would it be tax deductable for pron stars?

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:19 AM (dQdrY)

151 WHAT

THE

FUCK

I stop paying attention for ONE FUCKING DAY and now this 'health care' shit sandwhich is about to be Obamas 'win'.

Merry Christmas America! Kiss your grandparents good bye!

Oh but slut who want abortions get them for FREE!

Isn't that awesome?!

Revolution, NOW.

Posted by: Melodic Metal at December 20, 2009 08:22 AM (9QC0z)

152

Isn't it amazing how the AP can pull a poll out of its ass within two of another poll contradicting liberal orthodoxy? And on any subject?

How do they work that magic?

They make shit up. The creative manufacturing of news and manipulation of the truth is at the core of the government-run media complex's mission statement.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 20, 2009 08:22 AM (554T5)

153

Entirely facetious observation: isn't the tanning tax going to disproportionately impact Americans of a certain racial type?

It's geographical bias. And it doesn't effect the real problem. We need to have a tax on warm climates. Southern California, you're first.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 20, 2009 08:24 AM (Vo2Ef)

154

That's just stupid.

Nobody wants pasty-white stripper and hookers.

Posted by: Huckleberry at December 20, 2009 08:27 AM (F71c5)

155

A country that will kill its unborn, and promote ass bleaching, has a very hard time convincing the world it deserves to exist.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:27 AM (dQdrY)

156 They'll pry stripper tan lines from my cooling dead hands.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:28 AM (dQdrY)

157
154 - Regarding that Politico weirdness.

I think that's code for: The democrats are not done attempting to slip a "public option" into the bill.

As I've said before, do not underestimate this pack of democrats. They will stop at nothing to make sure this thing is as close to socialized insurance as they can get.
It's not enough that it will cost tax payers trillion. The democrats want more.

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 08:28 AM (0fzsA)

158
Obama suggesting a pain pill instead of a pacemaker shows that he has absolutely no idea whatsoever about medicine. Why isn't the whole f'n country laughing at this moron? Yet another, "What if Bush said this?". It would be used as an example of how he doesn't understand medicine an so shouldn't be controlling it.

All of this scares the freakin' bejesus out of me.

Posted by: InCali at December 20, 2009 08:30 AM (PFubb)

159

Are they TAXING ABORTIONS?

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 08:31 AM (Vqruj)

160

Wake up motherfuckers. There WILL BE a PUBLIC OPTION.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF ALL THIS.

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 08:32 AM (Vqruj)

161
Funny how all of a sudden the rightwing cares about taxing tanning salons.

Posted by: eggmcmuffin at December 20, 2009 08:32 AM (EgM+U)

162 I'm pasty white and mad as hell! White-ist!

Posted by: St. Agnostic at December 20, 2009 08:32 AM (gbCNS)

163 Isn't Big Abortion about a billion dollar a year industry? Go figure.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:33 AM (dQdrY)

164
The Oompah Loompah Tax?

Posted by: Dang Straights at December 20, 2009 08:34 AM (CUyEC)

165 Funny how all of a sudden the rightwing cares about taxing tanning salons.

Posted by: eggmcmuffin at December 20, 2009 12:32 PM (EgM+U)

Done mugging old ladies today?

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:34 AM (dQdrY)

166
They need to tax homosexuals. The money we spend on AIDS, a preventable disease, is a huge waste. Start taxing homosexuals so they can start paying back the taxpayers.

Posted by: Smelly Dirty Gay Pirate Hooker at December 20, 2009 08:35 AM (EgM+U)

167

the AMERICA tax payer already pays 350 MILLION DOLLARS to PLANNED ABORTION HOOD ALREADY.

each year.

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 08:36 AM (Vqruj)

168
btw, hat takes more years off one's life, smoking cigarettes or the homosexual lifestyle?

Posted by: Smelly Dirty Gay Pirate Hooker at December 20, 2009 08:37 AM (EgM+U)

169

Abortion?

An abortion solely for the purpose of ending an unwanted pregnancy could and should be classified as a cosmetic procedure. Simple, huh? Yeah, the libs will agree to that, right.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 08:37 AM (8NGHm)

170 72 -- ah. that makes sense. Time to take a drink. A lot.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 20, 2009 08:38 AM (+deq6)

171

What in this FUCKED TO HELL BILL in any way "REFORMS HEALTHCARE"?

erg, have you an answer LIBTARD?

Posted by: gus at December 20, 2009 08:38 AM (Vqruj)

172 172, that is.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 20, 2009 08:39 AM (+deq6)

173

Other breaking news:

*Obama releases 12 Gitmo Yemenis back to Yemen, where al Qaeda ramping up its operations. What could possibly go wrong?

*"China has applauded the outcome of the UN climate change summit in Copenhagen, despite the absence of any clear deals on emissions targets." [should despite be changed to because of?]

*The Eagles game has been postponed from 1:00 to 4:15 because of global warming.

The country is in the best of hands. Carry on.

Posted by: Tinian at December 20, 2009 08:41 AM (7+pP9)

174 I could've done without the 20+ inches of climate change. Man, I'm tired.

Posted by: JEA at December 20, 2009 08:44 AM (iJcBs)

175 one we have birth control in the water we don't need to worry about abortions

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 20, 2009 08:44 AM (ucxC/)

176

Obama suggesting a pain pill instead of a pacemaker shows that he has absolutely no idea whatsoever about medicine. Posted by: InCali

A pacemaker added about twelve years to my late mother's life, and it was a good twelve years.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 08:44 AM (8NGHm)

177 I could've done without the 20+ inches of climate change global warming. Man, I'm tired.

Posted by: JEA at December 20, 2009 12:44 PM (iJcBs)

FIFY.

Just keeping you honest. Does it hurt?

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:45 AM (dQdrY)

178 actually if we all become gay we won't need to worry about abortions or the birth control in the water......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 20, 2009 08:48 AM (ucxC/)

179 Finally! Something I can make the Obama-worshiping dumbasses I go to college with see and understand. Maybe.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at December 20, 2009 08:48 AM (FaLC9)

180

Kabuki Theater

The republican "fight" in the Senate over health care. According to RedState, Judd Gregg advocated eliminating any unanimous consent decrees in the December debate. In other words, fighting them tooth & nail through the whole month of December. Instead, the leadership under Mitch McConnell opted for messaging amendments. And it looks like the health bill will pass by Christmas.

I have no proof, but I bet that this result was determined weeks ago. I bet that the many Republicans (particularly the Maine sisters) had no stomach to argue this over the holidays. They needed to get home for Christmas. But they had to put on a show for their base. Notice the Drudge headline--McCain says GOP can do nothing to stop bill before Christmas. How much do you want to bet all this "debate" does get wrapped up before Christmas? I just hope Nancy doesn't have the votes and the will to bring back her House members and pass it before New Year.

Now, I don't want to go wishy and start despairing about the end of the Republic. It just means as conservatives that we have to double down to get conservatives back in the leadership of the Republican party. Get leaders who are willing bring Mavericks back into line and fight for our principles.

As an example, I am cutting a check today to the Senate Conservatives Fund founded by Jim DeMint. You don't have give to this organization. Their are others and other conservative leaders. Hell, you don't even have to give money. How about giving your time during the next election cycle?

Enough of this "woe of the Republic" crap. They are firing shots across the bow of our ship. Do we lay down? Or do we fight? Isn't this one of the greatest opportunities to reestablish our constititional republic for our kids and grandkids? Where we stood for freedom?

Or as stated by Bluto (Animal House):

D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: *LetÂ’s do it*!

Posted by: Scoob at December 20, 2009 08:48 AM (T7+JL)

181 I wonder if my friend sold her tanning business yet? So is any reporter going to ask Obama about his promise to not raise taxes on 90% of Americans?

Posted by: Mark at December 20, 2009 08:49 AM (+5U3J)

182 All yur hellish-care r belong to us. We will be giving at yu unpecedented aborshuns, and ov gorse "the tackses!"

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 20, 2009 08:49 AM (kpGB9)

183 If conservative (cough) lawyers just declare legal jihad and jump on board to sue every doctor and hospital over every procedure done, can't we crash the system?

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 08:50 AM (dQdrY)

184 I had a tanning salon. All cash side biz. It didn't make a ton of $$, just my hookers and blow money. Good luck milkin' that cow, or fucking that chicken as it were..

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 20, 2009 08:52 AM (kpGB9)

185

actually if we all become gay we won't need to worry about abortions or the birth control in the water......

What about us lesbians who are trapped in a man's body?

Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 08:52 AM (8NGHm)

186 So when are they going to provide the snazzy uniforms? Obama already has the looking down his nose pose all he needs is a uniform.

Posted by: Mark at December 20, 2009 08:52 AM (+5U3J)

187

A pacemaker added about twelve years to my late mother's life, and it was a good twelve years.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 12:44 PM (8NGHm)

I hope people realize that pacemakers aren't only for old people. There are patients who have pacemakers implanted at a young age - yes, even pre-teen. For some, without it, they'd be constantly passed out. A pain pill won't fix that.

I'd like someone, shomewhere explain to me when a pacemaker is indicated how a pain pill would be a fine substitute. That situation does not exist.

Posted by: InCali at December 20, 2009 08:53 AM (PFubb)

188 Just saw my first TV commercial for this bilge. by "StableMedicalCare". We are paying for our own hanging, with a fucking happy face decal on the noose.

Posted by: rawmuse at December 20, 2009 08:53 AM (Tb6GU)

189 BTW, w/o owning a chain of 25 tanning salons, you will NOT make 200-250k/year. A single 5-8 bed salon might get you 25-40k.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 20, 2009 08:54 AM (kpGB9)

190 Big Tanning? Pishaw!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 20, 2009 08:54 AM (kpGB9)

191

The Republicans don't have the votes to stop this. The voters did this - and the election-theft in Minnesota pushed it to 60.

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 08:57 AM (0fzsA)

192 19 Screw it, we're all doomed. Time to go all in fascism. We're just gonna have to present a kinder, gentler way of goose stepping into a man's home and demanding his papers. That's what it's all gonna come down to now.

Posted by: Robert

Been saying this for two years, more or less. It's over. Long live the Second American Republic.

Posted by: Truman North at December 20, 2009 09:04 AM (XH/G8)

193

Jesus, Gabe...this shit is more serious than a tanning tax. I'm sorry...but i don't give a fuck if the Jersey Shore douchebags are going to have to pay an additional quarter per tanning session.

Posted by: beedubya at December 20, 2009 09:06 AM (AnTyA)

194 200 actually if we all become gay we won't need to worry about abortions or the birth control in the water...... What about us lesbians who are trapped in a man's body? Posted by: Pelayo at December 20, 2009 12:52 PM (8NGHm) If a lesbian trapped in a man's body does the nasty with a homosexual trapped in a woman's body, does that work out to a "straight?"

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 20, 2009 09:07 AM (QECjC)

195 208 beedubya first they came for the tanning beds and spray bottles.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 20, 2009 09:08 AM (ucxC/)

196 They are going to pass something and by 2020 the American people will be begging for a solution to the cluster-eff they've created. You know, something like Canada and France have now.

It's all part of the plan -- eff up the system so bad that people will be willing to go along.

Posted by: rockhead at December 20, 2009 09:12 AM (RykTt)

197

They are going to pass something and by 2020 the American people will be begging for a solution to the cluster-eff they've created. You know, something like Canada and France have now.

And that word says it all.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 09:14 AM (dQdrY)

198 I say no problem taxing tanning salons, as long as they also tax baby oil.
Seems fair.

Posted by: jcp at December 20, 2009 09:15 AM (DHNp4)

199 Well, I'm hoping that Republicans will be politically astute enough to realize that the next few years will allow them to campaign against Death Panels, against vicious seniors' healthcare cuts, against throwing Junior in prison for the high crime of refusing to buy health insurance, against impending doctor shortages, hospital shutdowns, the death of the pharmaceutical innovations, and looming healthcare waiting lists. I mean, Good God, if they can't win with THAT kind of ammunition, they may as well formally disband now and save us the trouble.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 20, 2009 09:18 AM (QECjC)

200 once we have birth control in the water we don't need to worry about abortions

We already have birth control in the water.

Funny you don't hear fascist ecowhackos complaining about THAT.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2009 09:19 AM (6USny)

201

How poetic. A dhimmi tax comes to America in time for Christmas.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 09:20 AM (dQdrY)

202

Chickifying America through the water supply. And you call them stupid.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 09:26 AM (dQdrY)

203 C'mon, guys. This is just one small tax on something that almost no one uses. And Harry Reid is the best-animated taxman in history. How can you deny yourself this opportunity for a new ass-fucking from the taxman even if it has been done before?

Posted by: overreact to ass-fucking taxes much? at December 20, 2009 09:28 AM (2qU2d)

204 Tax Astroglide mf'ing hypocrites.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 09:33 AM (dQdrY)

205 The problem is that the Republicans will run in 2010 and 2012 against all this stuff. They will win majorities. And then they will turn around and do the same earmarking, deficit spending, special interest buying, corrupt bullshit.

We all talk about how great Newt's house was, but it was still corrupt. And Hastert was the worst. Every time the dems lower the corruption bar, the repubs take over and prove that they can still lower it further yet. "We see your corruption and raise you a K-street project and a bridge to nowhere"

Posted by: jcp at December 20, 2009 09:36 AM (DHNp4)

206 Football?

Man, if DiT is out, HQ apparently doesn't know football exists.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2009 09:36 AM (sey23)

207 Nice TD pass by Sanchez.

He's a football player.

They tend to play football on Sundays in the fall and into the winter.

A few Americans watch it.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2009 09:38 AM (sey23)

208 Bread and circuses.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 09:40 AM (dQdrY)

209 High frequency of gender defect in Gaza families, result of inbreeding

When these children, identified as females at birth, go through puberty in their teens they grow facial hair and their voices deepen. This is because they are actually males with defective genatalia that is not descended. Many of them make a transformation to living life as men at this point but surgery is necessary to make a complete physical change. Medical care in Gaza is not advanced and is quite expensive. This is happening to multiple members of the same families which makes it that much more prohibitive.

Why? Families in the region marry cousins and other relatives and their gene pool is not broad enough to maintain health of the species.

The article says that this is a humanitarian issue because of the above reasons that transformation to living as men is difficult. What about addressing the cultural root of the problem?

I wonder what the fate of the Gaza people will be? We know how deeply rooted cultural customs are. Will they change the custom of interbreeding in time to save their people? They can't procreate if their men do not have male genatalia.

/RACISM!

Posted by: Hey Cuz! at December 20, 2009 09:42 AM (d7Px0)

210 I'll wait for Charles' thoughtful explanation on this tax.

Posted by: Patience at December 20, 2009 09:45 AM (d7Px0)

211

Not to mention that Harry's plan has every person insured in the USA forking over at least $1/month to fund abortions.

No conscientious objections allowed.

Posted by: Abortions R Us at December 20, 2009 09:50 AM (d7Px0)

212 Teresa will be mad! I wonder if Joe will let us use the bed he has in the Vice-President's house...

Posted by: John F Kerry at December 20, 2009 09:51 AM (xpBkP)

213 There goes the guido vote.

Posted by: The Q at December 20, 2009 09:53 AM (pfStM)

214

#195

Good God, Mitch. What a freaking epic fail. If you had just strapped on your gonads a few weeks earlier, we wouldn't be facing this terror.

Gregg seems to get it then; this is for keeps. No more Mr. Nice GOP. No more 'Oh noes! Them Demz might thinks we're meanz!'

Posted by: John F Kerry at December 20, 2009 09:55 AM (xpBkP)

215 I'm kinda halfway watching the Jets and the Falcons right now. Don't have the stupid NFL network so I didn't get to see Dallas beat NO last night.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 20, 2009 09:55 AM (Wh0W+)

216

Er... name epic fail on me.

Posted by: Linlithgow at December 20, 2009 09:56 AM (xpBkP)

217 217 Chickifying America through the water supply. And you call them stupid. Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 20, 2009 01:26 PM (dQdrY) Is THAT way teenaged girls seem to have bigger boobies these days?? Maybe Big Government ain't as bad as I thought...

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 20, 2009 10:14 AM (QECjC)

218

132
How about the Demi Moore/Ashton Kutcher "I pledge to serve Obama"
... 95% celebrity tax?

It could save lives. It could save America!

Now THERE'S a tax I'll support!

Posted by: elisa at December 20, 2009 10:17 AM (VcPAo)

219
It's all a big set up to put some sort of a "public option" in there, (Lieberman will still cave) and attempt to get the netroots to sing "yay".

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 10:25 AM (0fzsA)

220

Maybe Big Government ain't as bad as I thought...

The hooters. The hooters.

Posted by: colonel kurtz at December 20, 2009 10:34 AM (2qU2d)

221
233.

A massive overhaul of the celebrity pay scale system is long over due. We must fight for the reform this nation deserves.

TAX HOLLYWOOD AT 95%. It all starts with you, Aston and Demi.
Step it up and serve your president.

Posted by: ethos at December 20, 2009 10:49 AM (0fzsA)

222 155 So... since abortion is going to be part of this bill, does that mean that all the Catholic hospitals in the US are going to close? And if so, who will that hurt? Minorities you say? But Democrats love minorities? What? You say that's a myth? Damn you and your magical logic!

Posted by: shibumi at December 20, 2009 12:13 PM (OKZrE)

You must've missed the smug comment by some libtard congress critter (not a household name, so I forgot it) when he was asked about the imminent closure of Catholic hospitals because of the abortion provision. He said, "We'll just buy them and operate them ourselves." They've obviously discussed this "in committee."

Posted by: RushBabe at December 20, 2009 10:55 AM (LKkE8)

223 31 Not Reidcare, we need to paint all of them with this horseshit. Maybe something like Democare. Posted by: TC at December 20, 2009 08:09 AM (QXKjZ)

Nope, not "Democare," "CongressCare." The 'pubbies governing so badly they got tossed, and not managing to do anything now, makes them responsible too.

Vote ALL the incumbents out - they may not all be the problem but they're sure not the solution.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at December 20, 2009 11:29 AM (ElVal)

224 Its bad for you, therefore the gov't needs a piece of the action. . .

(See cigarettes, guns, alcohol, gasoline, and every other thing reserved for special Federal taxes).

Posted by: looking closely at December 20, 2009 11:36 AM (KNy97)

225 Hell, they're already trying to tax the air we breathe.

Next thing is going to be sunlight.

Posted by: looking closely at December 20, 2009 11:47 AM (KNy97)

226

65% of tanning salons in America are owned by women If 65% of the salons were owned by black women would Congress still have propsed this tax? I doubt it.

Posted by: suntangal at December 27, 2009 01:22 PM (NZgEz)

Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top

Comments are disabled. Post is locked.

185kb generated in CPU 0.2651, elapsed 0.3758 seconds.
64 queries taking 0.3279 seconds, 354 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.