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February 08, 2014

Saturday Car Thread 02/08/14 - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse & Countrysquire]
— Open Blogger

Another glorious Saturday, eh? The Winter chill has settled over most of the country and those areas, such as mine, which aren't freezing, are still miserable and rainy.

This week's car thread delivers just what you need to thaw the chill: Some of the most beautiful cars ever produced. Countrysquire has scoured the net seeking out the best of the best and has compiled a list of cars so hot that you will become 10% more cool just by knowing they exist.

Lead the way, Countrysquire...

This should have been easy. The ugly car list was simple - choose a few French cars and you move on. Not so simple when discussing the art of the automotive world. When the list that I generated reached 50 cars, I knew that I had a problem and had to stop adding as different cars popped into my mind. Still, how does one cull cars like the 300SL Gullwing, Â’63 Stingray, or Jaguar XK13? Oh well, here we go:

Ferrari GTO

There are probably a dozen right answers as to whatÂ’s the most beautiful Ferrari ever. The silhouette of the 250 GTO is still being used today by designers of sports cars around the world. Scaglietti got it that right. HereÂ’s Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason racing his $40,000,000 art specimen.

Jaguar D Type

Unlike Ferrari, there are probably only eight right choices for most beautiful Jaguar. The crazy thing is that they did not employ a stylist, but rather depended on the work of aerodynamicist Malcolm Sayer for their sporting cars. The LeMans winning cars of Â’55, Â’56, & Â’57 had a large stabilizing wing that obviously worked well, but I think they looked best without them.

BMW 328

Of all the classically styled two seat roadsters, this is my favorite, besting even its contemporary competition from Alfa Romeo. The proportions are just perfect.

Lamborghini Miura

Introduced in 1965, this showed the world what a supercar looked like. As Jeremy Clarkson would say, pure filth. Though the Miura shown here is a classy metallic blue, no car does wild colors better.

Ford Model 40

It has been said that the 20 year production run of the Model T proved that Henry Ford did not care how his cars looked. This was not the case for his only son, Edsel, who made beauty accessible to the common man, assuming they were working during the depression. This began with the Model A in 1928 and continued until the war. While the Â’32 makes a better looking hotrod, the 6Â” longer Model 40 of Â’33 & Â’34 is pretty much perfect as-is. A little more than $500 would buy one of these Bob Gregorie penned masterpieces.

Cadillac Series 62 Sedanette

For the first couple years following WWII, American manufacturers were selling the essentially same cars that they were building in 1942 when production stopped in support of the war effort. When the new cars finally hit the showrooms in the late Â‘40s, the designs were all over the place. Harley Earl defined the direction with styling cues from the P-38 fighter plane. ItÂ’s hard to think of another car that has this combination of spottiness and the elegance of a big American car.

Mercedes 540K Special Roadster

This was a tough one. The 1930s is considered the golden age of automotive design by many, so this list had to include one of the premium cars from that decade. The simple gracefulness of the 540K exceeds the beauty of the best from Duesenberg, Packard, Lincoln, etc.

Ford GT-40

While the importance of race car aerodynamics was understood at this time, FordÂ’s designers purposely made these cars stylish as well as slippery. There were several versions, culminating in the Mk IV, which was the only all-American car to ever win at Lemans. The Mk pictured here is still the best looking, just not the fastest.

Delahaye 165

It doesnÂ’t seem fair to include custom coach-built cars in this list, but life ainÂ’t fair, plus many Delahayes of this era had bodies by either Figoni et Falaschi or Saoutchik. One of the famous owners of these cars was Diana Dors, who had an even better body than her car.

Ferrari Dino 246

These were never actually marketed as Ferraris, but named after Enzo FerrariÂ’s late son, Dino. While cheaper and slower than many of their other offerings, the Pininfarina designed Dino just may be the best looking road car to have rolled out of Maranello.

That's a fine list of cars and Countrysquire will be more than happy to take you on in the comments thread if you disagree.

When you think of beautiful cars, there's yet another maker that comes to mind. The history of Porsche as we know it dates back to 1931 although Ferdinand Porsche himself was a designer of cars, and carriages, for considerably longer. Recently, a discovery was made that set the automotive world atwitter: The earliest known Porsche ever made was found, sitting in an Austrian barn for more than 100 years.

After more than 100 years of sitting in a shed in Austria, the world's very first Porsche has been uncovered in remarkably good condition (via The Atlantic Cities).
The "Egger-Lohner electric vehicle, C.2 Phaeton model," or P1 for short, was designed and built by Ferdinand Porsche himself, first hitting the streets of Vienna on June 26, 1898.

Hey! Did you notice that it was electric? NPR wants you to know that it was electric.

Continuing from the Business Insider article:

Though it may look a lot like a horse-drawn carriage, the P1 was an electric car. Its "octagon" motor could travel up to 50 miles at a time, hitting a maximum speed of about 22 miles per hour. According to a press release from Porsche, the engine could deliver 3 horsepower during usual performance with bursts of up to 5 horsepower as it reached its maximum speed.
The entire vehicle weighed some 3,000 pounds and relied on more than 1,000 pounds of battery.

It's quite a cool discovery, although I hardly recognize it without a spoiler, and I can't imagine anyone cruising for hot chicks in it.

Vintage Films: Facts on Friction (1934):

For the Moronettes:

While it's not strictly a car, I can't imagine you'll care very much:

Rounding out this week's car post, something a little different. Try to look past the jackass up front to the beautiful machines behind him. Frankly, I have no idea what he's saying.

Please feel free to send any complaints or commendations to us at Twitter: Nied's Dead Horse and Countrysquire.

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1 V-roomy in here!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2014 09:06 AM (g4TxM)

2 You mentioned it in the write-up but no pic and since it has always been one of my favorite care I'll give a shout-out for the 63 split window corvette

http://tinyurl.com/nlrwaz9

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 08, 2014 09:07 AM (T2V/1)

3 You mentioned it in the write-up but no pic and since it has always been one of my favorite care I'll give a shout-out for the 63 split window corvette http://tinyurl.com/nlrwaz9 **** Hot, Hot, Hot!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:07 AM (DmNpO)

4 That Delahaye looks like something out of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2014 09:07 AM (g4TxM)

5 OK, made it. Trying to get a car ready to photograph in preparation for advertising it for sale. I'm beginning to wonder if we'll ever have sunshine again...

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:08 AM (8FyP4)

6 That Delahaye looks like something out of Who Framed Roger Rabbit

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:09 AM (DmNpO)

7 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2014 01:07 PM (g4TxM) ***** DUDE! There is no way we thought the exact, same thing! Ha!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:09 AM (DmNpO)

8 My dad had a '63 split window Vette. Sold it when he married my mom. He still regrets it to this day (selling it, not marrying my mom).

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 08, 2014 09:10 AM (GrtrJ)

9 Vic, As I culled the list down from 50, the '63 Vette made it all the way to 12.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:10 AM (8FyP4)

10 I love the look of that BMW

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:11 AM (DmNpO)

11 You mentioned it in the write-up but no pic and since it has always been one of my favorite care I'll give a shout-out for the 63 split window corvette

http://tinyurl.com/nlrwaz9

Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2014 01:07 PM (T2V/1)

Hell yeah. My fav for a long time.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 08, 2014 09:11 AM (FMbng)

12 Is that Angie Dickinson?

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:12 AM (8FyP4)

13 There is no way we thought the exact, same thing! Ha! Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 01:09 PM (DmNpO) **** Great minds, yada yada yada... I will now step out and leave this conversation to those who may actually know something about cars. Enjoy.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2014 09:12 AM (g4TxM)

14 The beautiful Auburn Roadster: http://tinyurl.com/kldhr82 Incidentally, the Auburn/Cord/Duesenburg plant (now a museum) is a good way to spend an afternoon if you are in Indiana.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2014 09:13 AM (TGgNi)

15 I am deeply offended you failed to include the VW Karmann Ghia!

Especially the 1955-1959 low light ones.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/761308.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:14 AM (u7qIz)

16 The silhouette of the 250 GTO is still being used today by designers of sports cars around the world.
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I had a Aurora HO slot car with the 250's body styling.. Bright yellow. Black racing stripes. Even that tiny thing was an object of beauty.

Posted by: mrp at February 08, 2014 09:15 AM (JBggj)

17 Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. My list includes, the Jensen Interceptor, the Studebaker Avanti, generation II Chevrolet Corvair, and the Jaguar XKE. All cars from my generation, I know.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 09:15 AM (l3vZN)

18 Lotsa nice sheet metal, NDH. I'll never forget the first time I saw a brand new Corvette. It was a blue split-window, fresh off the showroom floor, parked in some very lucky dude's front yard. I would soon come to realize that feeling as "better than sex," especially since I didn't know what sex was at that age, but I figured it had to be great if looking at a car was that much fun.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 08, 2014 09:15 AM (0HooB)

19 Is that Angie Dickinson? *** yep

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:16 AM (DmNpO)

20 Art deco car video: http://tinyurl.com/k6xvev6 No beautiful car post can be complete without a Duisenburg.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 08, 2014 09:16 AM (gPfhP)

21 The ACD Museum is on my bucket list. Have a look at this Stutz Model M. I really fretted over including it. http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Stutz/30_Stutz-K_SC_Lancfield_DV-11-AI_01.jpg

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:16 AM (8FyP4)

22 When shopping for my first car a fellow had a '57 Karmann Ghia for $150, but it needed too much work to get it passed inspection. I still remember the roller accelerator. I opted for the '66 Simca 1000 for $125 instead.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 09:18 AM (l3vZN)

23 Lotsa nice sheet metal, NDH. *** Countrysquire has a keen eye

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:18 AM (DmNpO)

24 I've always loved the Ferrari F40 and the Lambo Countach (sp?). Fell in love with them as a kid and the thrill has never left.

Also, the old 1930's Packards, though that Mercedes up there ^^^^ is gorgeous as well.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 08, 2014 09:19 AM (GrtrJ)

25 I really should have made a list of the 50 odd cars and included hyperlinks for them all. It's a crime to stop at 10.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:21 AM (8FyP4)

26 A lot of the best looking Stutz had the fabric bodies from Weymann. Sharp and radical looking cars.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 09:21 AM (l3vZN)

27 Â Try to look past the jackass up front to the beautiful machines behind him. Frankly, I have no idea what he's saying. _________ As a very smart someone said yesterday - Rhyming Clown. And great post.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 08, 2014 09:21 AM (t+Ksb)

28 In other automotive news, my car started and I was able to drive to the groomer to pick up my cat. Even better, it also started in the parking lot so we were able to return home. (See #140 in the morning thread.) The groomer thought it is probably the starter, but I don't know how much he knows about cars. Probably more than me. Maybe temperature was a factor early in the morning, but it wasn't especially cold. I put it in the garage for the rest of the weekend. Hopefully it will start on Monday so I can go to work and make an appointment with the mechanic.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 09:23 AM (sdi6R)

29 Completely OT ... and I'll do my time in The Barrel for it. Just saw Angela Mcglowan for my first time. Wow. She's really, really pretty. And smart. And nice. And polite. And smart. Oh ... and I'll hazard a guess that she likes old cars.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2014 09:24 AM (6/+vz)

30 Jinx, a Simca? Wow.

http://www.moderndesign.org/2012/04/karmann-ghia-by-luigi-segre.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:24 AM (u7qIz)

31 Thanks Chi!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:25 AM (DmNpO)

32 I know I'm in the minority, but I've never been a big fan of the 'look at me' cars.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 09:28 AM (DmNpO)

33 rickl, what are the symptoms?

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:28 AM (8FyP4)

34 The BMW 328s are pretty. Wayne Carini of the Velocity show Chasing Classic Cars one time found one in a garage. The daughters were wondering what to do with the car after their father, an Air Force pilot, had passed away. It had not run in decades and there were problems with the engine's head. But even in rough shape it was still a pretty thing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:29 AM (u7qIz)

35 I see that racist car video features fried chicken I'm outraged. Outraged

Posted by: billypaintbrush at February 08, 2014 09:29 AM (9/iF+)

36 $40 mil? Please tell me that's a typo.

Posted by: BignJames at February 08, 2014 09:31 AM (ZNQKl)

37 Jinx, a Simca? Wow. Tough to grow up poor....... I eventually got a Ghia, a 1964 that was purchased off of the Agency bulletin board. It had cast aluminum plates in the seatbacks and in the door panels, and a secret kill switch to disable the coil. It was my car as a HS senior, until I traded it off for one of those Deluxe buses with all the windows and sunroof. My favorite Ghia was the 70 which had some unique tail lights and still had the bows and overrider bumpers, but they all were lovely.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 09:32 AM (l3vZN)

38 The silhouette of the 250 GTO is still being used today by designers of sports cars around the world.

The original Dastun 240Z's dimensions were so close a few kit car companies made GTO body kits for them, and you couldn't really tell the difference. Until Ferrari sued them out of business.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at February 08, 2014 09:32 AM (Nk6GS)

39 Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2014 01:07 PM (T2V/1)

Nice choice.

The split window is odd, but it works perfectly. And that body shape is fantastic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2014 09:32 AM (QFxY5)

40 Jackass is the new N word.

Posted by: Nelly at February 08, 2014 09:33 AM (Aif/5)

41 According to Hagerty's, a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO Si in Condition 1 in Dec 2013 went for $54 million.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:33 AM (u7qIz)

42 33 rickl, what are the symptoms? Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 01:28 PM (8FyP4) I turned the key and nothing happened. No clicks or cranking. The lights lit up on the instrument panel. The battery is only about six months old, and it wasn't terribly cold last night, maybe in the 20s. Once it did start, it started right up without any problem. I don't think it's a charging issue. I've noticed this occasionally lately. I'll turn the key and nothing happens, then try it again and it starts fine. But this morning I tried for about five minutes and it wouldn't start. A couple hours later it was OK.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 09:35 AM (sdi6R)

43 36 $40 mil? Please tell me that's a typo. Posted by: BignJames +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ One reportedly sold for $52,000,000 a few months ago... Mason actually wrecked his while racing a while back.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:35 AM (8FyP4)

44 Sorry, but 45 seconds was all I could tolerate of that video. I will offer this one as a substitute - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KLNJ8d8Vqc

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 08, 2014 09:35 AM (0HooB)

45 According to Maxine Waters the reason we love old cars is the cocaine the CIA dusts on them.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 09:36 AM (jsa6I)

46 THe easiest way to check for a bad starter is to tap it with a hammer or whatever to see if it suddenly starts working. Could also be a loose connection in the path.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:37 AM (8FyP4)

47 Bob, don't forget the Powerball tickets for tonight. Might swing by there later tonight.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:37 AM (u7qIz)

48 Anna, have mine already, we would love to have you drop by.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 09:38 AM (jsa6I)

49 Jinx, a Simca? Wow.

http://www.moderndesign.org/2012/04/karmann-ghia-by-luigi-segre.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 01:24 PM (u7qIz)

I have the motor from a '59 Simca Vedette in my garage. It is a little baby flathead V8, derived from the Ford V8 sixty, but with numerous upgrades. I have had it running briefly, too. Lots of shiny aluminum parts on it!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2014 09:39 AM (pFqpP)

50 42 I've noticed this occasionally lately. I'll turn the key and nothing happens, then try it again and it starts fine. But this morning I tried for about five minutes and it wouldn't start. A couple hours later it was OK.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 01:35 PM (sdi6R)

Sounds like the starter solenoid.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 08, 2014 09:39 AM (T2V/1)

51 Need spare carbs/manifold for your Ferrari 250? Here ya go : http://www.hemmings.com/parts/item/4967.html?refer=news

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 08, 2014 09:42 AM (aDwsi)

52 AoP, going to build a Simca powered Studebaker?

Bob, I need to get more tickets. *sigh* road trip. Tonight's jackpot is worth $124 million cash. Could afford a 1958 Ferrari 250 GTO California [open headlights] with that... only about $5 or $6 million.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:43 AM (u7qIz)

53 I love Corvettes (to look at anyway). The 1970 LT-1 is a favorite (link in nick).

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 08, 2014 09:43 AM (zDsvJ)

54 Sounds like the starter solenoid. I concur. In the olden days, when we used to wash our clothes on a rock at the river, that was a relatively easy fix.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 08, 2014 09:43 AM (0HooB)

55 Alberta - displacement?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 08, 2014 09:43 AM (aDwsi)

56 In regards to the Datsun 240Z. I once looked very closely at the mechanical schematics, and concluded it was a copy of the Austin-Healy 3000, with the new skin over it. Any other opinions on that? The Japanese copied the 3000 mechanicals, but then probably did a better job of engineering and fabrication.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 09:43 AM (+1T7c)

57 Once it did start, it started right up without any problem. I don't think it's a charging issue.

I've noticed this occasionally lately. I'll turn the key and nothing happens, then try it again and it starts fine. But this morning I tried for about five minutes and it wouldn't start. A couple hours later it was OK.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 01:35 PM (sdi6R)

Neutral safety switch, or clutch safety switch if it has a manual transmission. Try jiggling the gear lever, or operating the clutch pedal with the key in the "crank" position. Some of these devices are lubricated with grease that can become sticky in very cold weather. My '97 Suburban sometimes refuses to go into gear when very cold, because the interlock between the brake pedal and the shift lever hangs up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2014 09:43 AM (pFqpP)

58 No E type Jaguar?

Posted by: real joe at February 08, 2014 09:44 AM (xXhgd)

59 50 Sounds like the starter solenoid. Posted by: Vic at February 08, 2014 01:39 PM (T2V/1) Yeah, the more I think about it, I think that's probably it.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 09:45 AM (sdi6R)

60 I've noticed this occasionally lately. I'll turn the key and nothing happens, then try it again and it starts fine. But this morning I tried for about five minutes and it wouldn't start. A couple hours later it was OK.>>

My pickup had that issue. Ended up being the wire lead to the starter had corroded badly and caused an intermitent problem like that.

Posted by: The Hickster at February 08, 2014 09:45 AM (TI3xG)

61 The Japanese copied the 3000 mechanicals, but then probably did a better job of engineering and fabrication. Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 01:43 PM
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"Probably"?

Posted by: mrp at February 08, 2014 09:45 AM (JBggj)

62 @ 2 [Vic] -- That right there would be my dream car. I've loved them ever since I was a schoolboy trying to draw cars on the back covers of my notebooks.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 08, 2014 09:45 AM (m0h0I)

63 Wow NDH. THIS is what I call a car thread. Well done.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 08, 2014 09:46 AM (4Mv1T)

64 Biggest problem with E-Types?
Electricals. Its an E-Type. The sub-frame that carries the engine and front suspension actually has fatigue issues. And its an E-Type.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:46 AM (u7qIz)

65 Call me crazy, but I truly think my slightly lifted 80's Toyota Pickup 4x4 is beautiful when it's all covered in mud and/or desert dirt. I'll admit, it's more like the stark beauty of a blooming cactus than the easy appeal of an orchid, but that's just my thing.

Posted by: Mephistefales at February 08, 2014 09:47 AM (RUQje)

66 The 240Z was styled by Albrect Von Goetz who also styled the BMW 507, another car that almost made it. http://tinyurl.com/mzvj837

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:47 AM (8FyP4)

67 No E type Jaguar? Posted by: real joe The D Type was the racing prototype design that gave birth to the E-type. A fire in the shop destroyed most of the surviving (about 20 by my recollection) D-types, and then the E-type was born.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 09:47 AM (+1T7c)

68 The problem I have now that I'm older with a lot of sports cars is how small and low they are. So even when I see someone driving buy in a really nice sports coupe, if it isn't a convertible I kind of dismiss it. One of my strongest opinions in terms of car aesthetics nowadays is interior color scheme. I loathe black upholstery and dashes. Ideal color scheme for me is a light tan or buff leather and hopefully an attractive dash/console. IIRC didn't Mary Tyler Moore get that combo in that episode with her Mustang convertible way back in the day?

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 08, 2014 09:48 AM (zDsvJ)

69 57 Neutral safety switch, or clutch safety switch if it has a manual transmission. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2014 01:43 PM (pFqpP) That's what I was thinking earlier this morning, but now I'm leaning towards the starter solenoid.

Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2014 09:48 AM (sdi6R)

70 I can't believe people are paying real money for Dinos.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 09:48 AM (JE3FN)

71 Alberta - displacement?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 08, 2014 01:43 PM (aDwsi)

I think it's 144 cubic inches. Wiki says 2.351 liters, which is close.

The engine won't be going into a Studebaker. Heck, the Champion six has it beat by nearly 30 cubes. This would be a good engine for a small hot rod, or maybe a bike. Needs to be out in the open, not under a hood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2014 09:49 AM (pFqpP)

72 Posted by: Mephistefales at February 08, 2014 01:47 PM (RUQje)

I had a 1988 Toyota 4x4 with the (slightly) extended cab.

It was the quintessential small pickup truck, and it was great!

I regret selling it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2014 09:49 AM (QFxY5)

73 The E Type was a tough call. Which Jaguar do you choose? XK120, D Type, XKSS, E Type, XK13? There's no wrong answer.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:50 AM (8FyP4)

74 Garrett Dinos are because all the real Ferraris now have price tags equal to some Third World countries budgets. Which is why the value of Mercedes 190s is climbing, some 300s are now worth about $900k.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:50 AM (u7qIz)

75 Got busted driving a Country Squire at age 14. Parents went into the store and left the keys so we could listen to the radio. We decided that would be a good time to drive around the parking lot. It was a flawless plan, until the parking spot got taken, forcing us to park somewhere else and wait for the ass beating.

Posted by: UWP at February 08, 2014 09:50 AM (QQ5uB)

76 I turned the key and nothing happened. No clicks or cranking. The lights lit up on the instrument panel. The battery is only about six months old... _______ You're bound to get a lot of differnet opinions, and we know what is said about them. The easiest and cheapest place to start - what I would do first - is electrical connections. Clean, then tighten the battery terminals. Inspect the battery cables. If you can, check for a TIGHT connection at the starter & solenoid. My ex's little sister had intermittent starting problems last summer for months. I went out and pulled the positive cable off by hand. Fifteen seconds to tighten it - no problems since. Also, that "new" battery could have been sitting on a shelf forever, or even be defective. I've seen it happen before.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 08, 2014 09:51 AM (t+Ksb)

77 According to Hagerty's, a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO Si in Condition 1 in Dec 2013 went for $54 million. Before buyers / sellers premiums, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 09:51 AM (JE3FN)

78 The 240Z was styled by Albrect Von Goetz who also styled the BMW 507, another car that almost made it. http://tinyurl.com/mzvj837 Posted by: Countrysquire Back when I owned a BMW (a cheapo 325), I subscribed to the BMW owners magazine, The Roundel. They did a feature on the 507. What a beautiful car, but it came out at a bad time economically and just didn't sell. The Z-4 was supposed to be an re-incarnation of the 507 (well, it sorta was).

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 09:51 AM (+1T7c)

79 Dinos have absolutely gone through the roof. It's nuts.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:52 AM (8FyP4)

80 My Sebring convertible is about as close to a sports car as I've ever owned. My brother was the car nut, I just like to get from A to B. Still, I do love certain muscle/classic cars. Maybe I'll snag one for a ""Beach car" some day.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 09:53 AM (ZshNr)

81 @ 65 [Mephistefales] -- I used to have one -- '84 1/2 model. It had a 4" suspension lift and 35" Cooper off-road radials with a bed topper and camo paint job. Pure-D redneck and a hell of a lot of fun.

And then, like an idiot, I traded it for an '88 T-bird Turbo Coupe and have kicked myself ever since.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 08, 2014 09:53 AM (m0h0I)

82 Garrett Dinos are because all the real Ferraris now have price tags equal to some Third World countries budgets. Yeah, but it doesn't make the Dino any more appealing to me. I'd rather have a DeTomaso Pantera than a Dino.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 09:54 AM (JE3FN)

83 When I lived in Scotland the boy and I were walking the neighborhood and a neighbor I didn't know had his garage door open. Sitting inside was an original Ford GT-40 still in Gulf Oil racing livery. Absolutely beautiful and he cranked it up for me.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 08, 2014 09:54 AM (mU9NT)

84 The gorgeous 507 almost put BMW out of business. The ugly little 700 saved them.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:54 AM (8FyP4)

85 If it is the solenoid and it prolly is: you can take it apart and clean up the pits on both sides of the contact, some are even easier just rotate the plunger to an unused spot.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 09:54 AM (jsa6I)

86 Slightly off topic: The smallest engine I've had in a car was the 907cc (47 cubes) unit in the Simca with the largest being a 478 Cu In International gas V8. The worst one was a 250 six in a 75 Ford Maverick that used most of its HP to drive an air pump. The best all round engine--for me, was the 4.0 Litre Six in the Jeep Cherokee. Last forever. Runner up, the slant 6 from my 63 Plymouth. It ran like a sewing machine.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 09:55 AM (l3vZN)

87 62 @ 2 [Vic] -- That right there would be my dream car. I've loved them ever since I was a schoolboy trying to draw cars on the back covers of my notebooks.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 08, 2014 01:45 PM (m0h0I)

I have always wanted one of those. Unfortunately they were out of my price range in '63 and much more so now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 08, 2014 09:55 AM (T2V/1)

88 I just realized Countrysquire cobbed with NDH on this one. Kudos. Well done.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 08, 2014 09:56 AM (4Mv1T)

89 This was probably linked at the HQ earlier in the week but here it is again for those that missed it.

"Ivan Sentch of New Zealand has printed about three-quarters of the mold parts for his handmade Aston Martin DB4."

http://tinyurl.com/k42y5lj

Posted by: The Hickster at February 08, 2014 09:56 AM (TI3xG)

90 Thanks TR.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 09:57 AM (8FyP4)

91 Back when I owned a BMW (a cheapo 325), I subscribed to the BMW owners magazine, The Roundel.
They did a feature on the 507. What a beautiful car, but it came out at a bad time economically and just didn't sell.
The Z-4 was supposed to be an re-incarnation of the 507 (well, it sorta was).

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 01:51 PM (+1T7c)

Albert Speer, Hitler's architect and later Reichsminister for Production, owned a BMW roadster, and in his memoirs he claims to have driven around Germany in the dying days of the Reich, personally countermanding Hitler's orders to destroy anything of value. Now, I don't presume to judge whether this is true, or a self-serving fabrication, but the image of a guy madly driving all over a bombed-out Germany in a BMW roadster would sure as hell make for a great movie scene.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2014 09:58 AM (pFqpP)

92 I think one of the most beautiful cars is a '68 Charger. Of course my tastes are rather shallow.

Posted by: Ronster at February 08, 2014 09:58 AM (puNd6)

93 *looks at Hagerty some more*

67/68 206 GT Dinos in Condition 1 about $430,000. Still far cheaper than Ferraris. But Ferrari has also included the Dinos as part of the family where before it was, "We don't know that car!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 09:59 AM (u7qIz)

94 >>> In regards to the Datsun 240Z. I remember when that came out. It looked like I needed one in my Matchbox collection. Once in a while I see a 260Z parked on Charles Street in Boston.

Posted by: fluffy at February 08, 2014 10:00 AM (Ua6T/)

95 Cars are like guns and women, you can never have enough.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 10:00 AM (jsa6I)

96 But Ferrari has also included the Dinos as part of the family where before it was, "We don't know that car!" They should have left it that way.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 10:01 AM (JE3FN)

97 Now, I don't presume to judge whether this is true, or a self-serving fabrication, but the image of a guy madly driving all over a bombed-out Germany in a BMW roadster would sure as hell make for a great movie scene.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
===
Just the SS and Gestapo personnel waving Al through the roadblocks, with the unfortunates without authorization swaying in the breeze or bleeding in a ditch would an interesting montage.

Posted by: mrp at February 08, 2014 10:01 AM (JBggj)

98 Finally went back to read the comments from the top. My first car was a 1969 Ghia convertible. What fun. Not the "automatic stickshift" that tended to catch fire part, the being a teenager with a covertible freedommobile part.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 08, 2014 10:01 AM (t+Ksb)

99 The best all round engine--for me, was the 4.0 Litre Six in the Jeep Cherokee. Last forever. Runner up, the slant 6 from my 63 Plymouth. It ran like a sewing machine. Posted by: Jinx the Cat My wife and I ALMOST bought a Cherokee (the old boxy bodied one) about 20 years ago, one of the last years they made it with the 4 liter slant 6. I remember standing in the dealership and looking at the engine and remembering the old 176 ci slant six. That was a solid beast, and in retrospect I wish we had bought it then. My Dad bought a plethora of the old Dodge Darts/Plymouth Valiants in the 1960's that had a the Slant Six. That was a bullet proof design.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 10:03 AM (+1T7c)

100 Another car that was influenced by the Ferrari stable was the VW Brasil Puma. A few were brought into the US as kit cars.

http://www.wj2d.100megsdns.com/billpu.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 10:03 AM (u7qIz)

101 64 Biggest problem with E-Types? We are all aware of Lucas, Prince of Darkness. I thought this was a list based purely on looks - and imho the E-Type beats them all, with the possible exception of that Ferrari GTO. I can't remember the name of that eccentric Brit auto writer for Road and Track many years ago, who called the E-Type "the greatest crumpet collector ever devised by man." Or something like that.

Posted by: real joe at February 08, 2014 10:04 AM (xXhgd)

102 The car I want back most from my teenage years. A 1970 Buick GS 350. Bought it for $400 and it looked like hell with a crackled clear coat and belched blue smoke. But it still went like a bat outa hell.

Posted by: The Hickster at February 08, 2014 10:04 AM (TI3xG)

103 shredded chi, no one I have ever talked to has ever shown any love for that three speed transmission.

Convertible? Plastic rear window I bet. Because if you had broken the glass rear window that was a mid-69 change while folding the top you would remember that sound and the price of repair.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 10:08 AM (u7qIz)

104 Not on this list but cars I consider beauties

1963 Buick Riviera

1968 Mustang GT

1961 Jaguar E Type

1957 Ford Thunderbird

1964 Shelby Cobra

1965 AC Cobra

And the handsome Ferrari for the handsome star of the show

Ferrari 308GTS driven by Magnum PI

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:08 AM (aTXUx)

105 Heh. Driving related, since MA gives driver's licenses to so many illegals, the Feds may stop accepting MA ID's as valid identification.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:08 AM (ZshNr)

106 I think one of the most beautiful cars is a '68 Charger. Of course my tastes are rather shallow. Posted by: Ronster One of my uncle's worked for GM and had the Type 1 discount and bought a Corvette new back in 1980 or 81. He still liked his '68 Charger (with the 383 V-8 and 4-barrelled Holley Carb) better.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 10:08 AM (+1T7c)

107 @ 86 [Jinx the Cat] -- My best friend growing up had the Jeep Comanche with the 4.0 liter in-line 6 cylinder. That thing was amazingly quick.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 08, 2014 10:09 AM (m0h0I)

108 Austin Martin deserves a place. What is special is: their recent offerings are damn fine looking.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 10:09 AM (jsa6I)

109 Anna, About two months ago I was driving home from Home Depot and there was a guy in the next lane in a VW Type 34, which was really cool.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:11 AM (8FyP4)

110 Curious as to where the Cord 812 fell on the top 50 list?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 10:11 AM (l3vZN)

111 I watched a friend of my father's wreck his Ferrari at Spa. We were having coffee with his mechanic. Learned a few new cuss words that day.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 10:12 AM (JE3FN)

112 Type 34s are very much an acquired taste. One has to love sharp edges and creases.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 08, 2014 10:12 AM (u7qIz)

113 Aston Martin missed it by just a bit. I love their newer cars, but was considering the DBR1 that Shelby drove to victory at Lemans in '59.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:13 AM (8FyP4)

114 One beauty I saw from a Top Gear rerun this week

1971 Jensen Interceptor III

The Interceptors used Chrysler big blocks, the 383 mostly until they offered the 440 4bl and 440 Six Pack

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:14 AM (aTXUx)

115 Type 34s are very much an acquired taste. One has to love sharp edges and creases. Beautiful Car.

Posted by: George Will at February 08, 2014 10:14 AM (JE3FN)

116 110 Curious as to where the Cord 812 fell on the top 50 list? Posted by: Jinx the Cat It was in the 50, but I didnt really have them in any order.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:14 AM (8FyP4)

117 Another OT bit of trivia. The old roue Andy Rooney's personal daily driver until he died was a Sunbeam Tiger. His daughter had it restored and in her possession to this day.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 10:16 AM (l3vZN)

118 ...or was I the one who liked creases?

Posted by: David Brooks at February 08, 2014 10:16 AM (JE3FN)

119 Love the Sunbeam...too bad it is built for midgets.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 10:17 AM (JE3FN)

120 Anna, yeah, I'm pretty sure mine was plastice (tbat was a LOT of brain cells ago). I replaced that trans a number of times before finally converting it to a hydraulic clutch. My BIL had his bug burn to the ground while he was in the movies with sis. Yep, automatic stickshift. Looks like we have more Buick fans than I knew of. kbdabear - I have a '66 Riv in the garage that's pretty damn cherry. Talked about it last week or week before, so won't repeat the boring details. I love the Rivieras.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 08, 2014 10:17 AM (t+Ksb)

121 Daily reminder: Leno was a closet conservative.

Posted by: Daily Reminder Guy at February 08, 2014 10:19 AM (6j8ke)

122 113 Aston Martin missed it by just a bit. I love their newer cars, but was considering the DBR1 that Shelby drove to victory at Lemans in '59.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 02:13 PM (8FyP4)

Every Aston Martin I see makes me think "if that car was a woman, I'd hit it like Kyle Busch at the 3rd turn wall at Daytona"

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:19 AM (aTXUx)

123 119 Love the Sunbeam...too bad it is built for midgets. Posted by: garrett +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You don't really appreciate how small sports cars from that era were until you see one parked next to a new one.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:20 AM (8FyP4)

124 I don't know if it is worthy of a topic, but, in 30 years what will be the Japanese classics if any?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 10:22 AM (jsa6I)

125 I always liked the look of the 1963 T-Bird

http://www.hobbycar.com/RogerPutt1963.jpg

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:23 AM (aTXUx)

126 Just a personal note? A few months ago I stopped at the local CVS for smokes. A young and pretty sales associate noted the bandanna and snugger I wear in remembrance of my Emily and wanted to know the story behind it.

So I told her how Emily's Cole-boy had poked me awake and led me to her grim corpse. And how Emmy always wrapped a bandanna around her hair at home with me. So now I wear one of hers out in public. In memory....

Since then I stop by sometimes just to talk to her. Gave her small trinkets like Streamlite's Nanolight. Today I gave her Swiss Army's small pen-knife. For a penny. Old family superstition- if you aren't paid for a knife the blade will cut your friendship.

Got two hugs for it. I have almost forgotten how good you women feel.

Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 10:23 AM (ULH4o)

127 You don't really appreciate how small sports cars from that era were until you see one parked next to a new one. __________ Better yet, until you cram yourself into the driver's seat and your knees are up next to your ears. I don't see how most normal sized men could get into them, much less drive them.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 08, 2014 10:23 AM (t+Ksb)

128 124 I don't know if it is worthy of a topic, but, in 30 years what will be the Japanese classics if any? Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 02:22 PM

The Datson 240 Z is already considered one

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:24 AM (aTXUx)

129 Anyone still watching the Olympics? Norway is racking up some cross country medals.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:24 AM (ZshNr)

130 124 I don't know if it is worthy of a topic, but, in 30 years what will be the Japanese classics if any? Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 02:22 PM

The Nissan GTR

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:25 AM (aTXUx)

131 There's just something about the 246 Dino that moves me. Then again, there's not much Ferrari that doesn't move me. Well, the Daytona, but everyone's allowed one Mulligan.

Posted by: Yep, I'm a nerd at February 08, 2014 10:25 AM (FCgaq)

132 One of my uncle's worked for GM and had the Type 1 discount and bought a Corvette new back in 1980 or 81. He still liked his '68 Charger (with the 383 V-8 and 4-barrelled Holley Carb) better.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 08, 2014 02:08 PM (+1T7c)

IIRC Corvette horsepower suffered during the early '80s. There was one year they didn't even build a new model.

Posted by: Ronster at February 08, 2014 10:26 AM (puNd6)

133 I want one of those Daytona kits built on a Corvette. Like the one on Miami Vice. I love the look, but even if I could afford the multimillion dollar version, I couldn't feel good driving it around.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2014 10:27 AM (4+AaH)

134 Anyone still watching the Olympics? Norway is racking up some cross country medals. *** The Netherlands cleaned house in the Men's 5000m Speed Skating event

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 10:27 AM (DmNpO)

135 My Father worked for Fischer Body back in the late 60s. He would bring home the die cast 1/18 models. And we would go out and destroy/play with them. His company car in 69 was a 455 Tornado. I was young but that car was a true land yacht just floated down the road at 80-90 MPH.

Posted by: The Hickster at February 08, 2014 10:27 AM (TI3xG)

136 The Datson 240 Z is already considered one. i would put the NSX as a future classic.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 10:28 AM (jsa6I)

137 The 1949-1951 Mercury Eight out of the factory was kind of like the plain woman at work who fixed up beautifully with some makeup and a great dress

Not much untouched, but beautiful when dressed up and painted

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:28 AM (aTXUx)

138 I just missed the speed skating. That's okay, I like the shorter races, and the short-track races, those are a blast.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:29 AM (ZshNr)

139 I don't know if it is worthy of a topic, but, in 30 years what will be the Japanese classics if any? *** I love the look of the 280z and the 1986 1/2 Supra.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 10:31 AM (DmNpO)

140 Toyota 2000GT is a gnat's ass away from breaking the $million barrier at auction.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 10:31 AM (l3vZN)

141 Right away, I have to disagree with the first two. The prettiest Ferrari ever was the 308 ragtop. And the drop-dead sexiest Jag ever was the 'E' Type.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 08, 2014 10:32 AM (WtVhX)

142 s2000

Posted by: MAx at February 08, 2014 10:32 AM (b7yum)

143 It's on normal NBC now, by the way.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:32 AM (ZshNr)

144 I can palm the ground from the driver's seat of a Tiger. Also, I have to look over the windscreen.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 10:33 AM (+Rhmn)

145 Nice work. The list shows good taste and deep car knowledge. The Miura is the prettiest car ever, I think. I would have included the Ferrari Daytona as well. Others have mentioned the BMW 507, and I quite agree, but I'd like to put in a good word for the 2800CS. By a great coincidence, we're going to the Nethercutt Museum tonight, so I'll be looking at a lot of these cars.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at February 08, 2014 10:34 AM (IlZPo)

146 The Toyota 2000GTs are bringing a million dollars, and the FJ40s are bringing $100K, so I guess they count. I think the NSX has bottomed out and will only go up from here.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:34 AM (8FyP4)

147 Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 02:31 PM (l3vZN)

That's the car from "You Only Live Twice". I always wanted one. Sadly, my Paypal account is a little shy of $1Mil right now...

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 08, 2014 10:35 AM (WtVhX)

148 Bode Miller ready to go.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:35 AM (ZshNr)

149 Trivial question? Wasn't the original Shelby Cobra an AC Ace he shoehorned a hot 289 Ford motor into?

Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 10:37 AM (ULH4o)

150 The first Cobra, CSX2000 actually had a 260.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:38 AM (8FyP4)

151 The 1987-1988 Toyota Supra was a good looking car in a decade that made few good looking cars

The 3rd Generation Firebird of the 80s was also a rare good looking car for that decade

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:40 AM (aTXUx)

152 Thankkee, Countrysquire- now that you mention it I seem to recall it that way.

Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 10:40 AM (ULH4o)

153 CNN alert to my phone: Attorney General to extend U.S. recognition of same-sex marriages even in 34 states that don't consider it legal.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 10:40 AM (DmNpO)

154 Never let a gay crisis go to waste.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:41 AM (ZshNr)

155 The 1987-1988 Toyota Supra was a good looking car in a decade that made few good looking cars *** Had an 86 1/2 and I wish I still had it. Candy Apple red.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 10:41 AM (DmNpO)

156 Alfa Romeo made a shitload of good looking cars

Since they always broke down, at least you had something nice to look at or be seen in while you waited for the tow truck

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:42 AM (aTXUx)

157 This thread needs more young, edible, raw men butts.

Posted by: Barry O at February 08, 2014 10:43 AM (b3K75)

158 Some of the Citroen D series are beautiful. Really like those.

Posted by: Dang at February 08, 2014 10:45 AM (MNq6o)

159 Better yet, until you cram yourself into the driver's seat and your knees are up next to your ears. I don't see how most normal sized men could get into them, much less drive them. Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Which is why I love my 356. I'm 6' tall and fit in it comfortably.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:45 AM (8FyP4)

160 This thread needs more young, edible, raw men butts. *** Here ya go. Some cheesecake. http://binged.it/1gfeaUx

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 10:45 AM (DmNpO)

161 NDH, Are you putting up an Open Thread for Olympics talk? Seems like we need one.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 08, 2014 10:46 AM (zDsvJ)

162 Toyota's puts a TuRD in a Tundra.

http://tinyurl.com/mvnokpr

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 08, 2014 10:46 AM (KQp38)

163 I had a 240Z; I got expert at adjusting those dual single barrel carbs. My standard line about owning that car is "I spent more time under that car than in it".

Still, it looked good going down the road occasionally.

My garage car is a '69 Vette -- I had no idea how much they stole the design from Ferrari. I never saw many Ferraris in my neck of the woods.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 08, 2014 10:46 AM (cHZB7)

164 "The 3rd Generation Firebird of the 80s was also a rare good looking car for that decade"
Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 02:40 PM (aTXUx)

That depends entirely on if you mean before or after the 1991 model nose restyling. Before, yes. After... NO. Otherwise, the 3rd generation was the only period where the Firebird looked as good or perhaps better than the comparable Camaro.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 08, 2014 10:47 AM (WtVhX)

165 Attorney General to extend U.S. recognition of same-sex marriages even in 34 states that don't consider it legal. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

I question the timing. Obama sees this as a thumb in the eye of Putin, I guess. Seems like kind of a super faggy move to me. So it's totally like something Obama would do to try and crash Putin's party.

Posted by: Dang at February 08, 2014 10:47 AM (MNq6o)

166 Why doesn't he just declare us all officially gay and be done with it?

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:49 AM (ZshNr)

167 149 Trivial question? Wasn't the original Shelby Cobra an AC Ace he shoehorned a hot 289 Ford motor into?
Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 02:37 PM

Yes they were. The Cobra was a collaboration between Ace and Carroll Shelby. Shelby wrote to AC asking them if they could build a two-seater that would fit an American V8 and they agreed as long as Shelby found the company that would provide the engines. GM refused due to competition with the Vette, but Ford agreed to send the 260 ci engine and later the 289

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:50 AM (aTXUx)

168 153?

"Attorney General to extend U.S. recognition of same-sex marriages even in 34 states that don't consider it legal."

So it's official- we live in a banana-boat dictatorship now....

Thought so all along....

Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 10:51 AM (ULH4o)

169 NDH, Are you putting up an Open Thread for Olympics talk? Seems like we need one. *** Yes. Unless a COB posts content prior to 3:00

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 08, 2014 10:52 AM (DmNpO)

170 That depends entirely on if you mean before or after the 1991 model nose restyling. Before, yes. After... NO. Otherwise, the 3rd generation was the only period where the Firebird looked as good or perhaps better than the comparable Camaro.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 08, 2014 02:47 PM

Of course before the 1991 nose. That thing looked awful, almost like the mask Hannibal Lechter wore

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:52 AM (aTXUx)

171 Q: Why do Brits drink warm beer?
A: Because Lucas makes the refrigerators too.

Posted by: Anthony L. at February 08, 2014 10:52 AM (34n6F)

172 we could turn this into a gay car thread. LOL

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 10:52 AM (jsa6I)

173 Since teh gheys were brought up and this is a car thread ....

Ghey Cars

http://gearsandgridirons.blogspot.com/2012/07/and-if-you-like-show-tunes.html

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 10:53 AM (aTXUx)

174 Toyota's puts a TuRD in a Tundra.>>

I always thought TRD was a poor branding choice. If I had money to burn I'd go with the Ford SVT Raptor.

http://2015ford-f150.com/2015-ford-f-150-svt-raptor/

Posted by: The Hickster at February 08, 2014 10:54 AM (TI3xG)

175 My suggestion for ugliest car (I know that's so last week) is the Volkswagen Thing. Maybe ugly isn't the right word but very interesting.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 08, 2014 10:54 AM (Xmw9g)

176 Posted by: The Hickster at February 08, 2014 02:54 PM

I would guess not too many wouldn't.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 08, 2014 10:55 AM (KQp38)

177 we could turn this into a gay car thread. LOL Posted by: Bob from table9 Well, here I am, big boy.......

Posted by: Subaru Forester at February 08, 2014 10:55 AM (l3vZN)

178 Speaking of gay cars, anyone ever been to Provincetown during the summer? Right on the main drag, Commercial Street, you'll walk past Ferraris, Lamborghinis, all sorts of top end cars. I guess it's the place for rich gay guys to show off their toys. Also, Subarus.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 10:57 AM (ZshNr)

179 Why doesn't Subaru just quit screwing around and make a Birkenstock Edition?

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:57 AM (8FyP4)

180 Bought out farm truck last week. Toyota Tacoma Prerunner, 2012, 16K miles on, boocoo accessories, V6. Loving it.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 08, 2014 10:57 AM (XO6WW)

181 Dad had a Kharmann Gia when I was a kid and the required annual Bondo ritual for owning one in SW PA. That actually rusted away before bro's and I started destroying his vehicles.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 08, 2014 10:58 AM (DL2i+)

182 One more executive order and we can marry that car of our dreams.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 08, 2014 10:58 AM (jsa6I)

183 177 we could turn this into a gay car thread. LOL
Posted by: Bob from table9

Well, here I am, big boy....... Posted by: Subaru Forester at February 08, 2014 02:55 PM

I saw him first, BITCH!!

Posted by: VW Cabrio at February 08, 2014 10:58 AM (aTXUx)

184 182 One more executive order and we can marry that car of our dreams. Posted by: Bob from table9 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Heh. Brings back the old saying: Injection is nice, but I'd rather be blown.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 10:59 AM (8FyP4)

185 I had a a lot of fun "back in the day" with a couple of these:

http://tinyurl.com/mqshuxh

The had Lucas electrics, so they were "hobby" cars.
You'd work on them during the week so you could play with them on the weekend.
Easy to get them over 100hp, and they weighed less than 1500 pounds.
They got 40mpg at 100mph and the cops hated them...

Posted by: ChrisP at February 08, 2014 10:59 AM (jdJpY)

186 I've never driven an Elan. I bet they are a blast.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 11:01 AM (8FyP4)

187 I'll add a vote for the Jag XKE -- My dad was a used car dealer in the 70s and so I got to drive and look at lots of different cars. He had a '71 XKE-12 and the paint job alone made me want to rob a bank so it could be MINE MINE MINE.

Instead, I owned a Bug.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 08, 2014 11:01 AM (cHZB7)

188 From what I can tell from the link and suggestions here, "gay car" is essentially interchangeable with "chick car".

In that case, the gayest car I can think of was the relaunched Ford Thunderbird from a decade ago. Especially the hardtop with the circular port windows.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 08, 2014 11:02 AM (WtVhX)

189 Nice, Chris P. I saw one of these at a lot recently, and was reminded again how small they were.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 11:02 AM (l3vZN)

190 I mentioned it before, but the 1968 Mustang GT always turned heads and still does today

Even the snooty Europeans stopped to look

Steve McQueen. Bullitt. Cool defined

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:03 AM (aTXUx)

191 Lucas or Smith "electrics" were called "the Prince of Darkness" here in the fifties.

Subaru's here are known currently as "Lezzy Limos"- yes, crazy cat ladies who have "partners."

Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 11:05 AM (ULH4o)

192 Oh cripes, they're showing the exact same events that I watched on NBC SN. Like there's nothing else going on anywhere, they already need reruns?

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 08, 2014 11:06 AM (ZshNr)

193 190 I mentioned it before, but the 1968 Mustang GT always turned heads and still does today ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I think everyone loves the '68 Mustang but me. I do like it, but greatly prefer the '65-'66.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 11:06 AM (8FyP4)

194 The had Lucas electrics, so they were "hobby" cars.

Posted by: ChrisP at February 08, 2014 02:59 PM

Ahhh, Lucas, the Prince of Darkness

The best Lucas joke was...

Q - Why do the British drink warm beer?

A - Because Lucas Electric wires their refrigerators too

Some Lucas Electric jokes

http://www.mez.co.uk/lucas.html

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:07 AM (aTXUx)

195 OK, back to the garage. Enjoyed the conversation, as always.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 08, 2014 11:08 AM (8FyP4)

196 173 I always wanted a triumph spitfire. Then I saw a 2001 Miata Special edition (British Racing green with wood trim/steering wheel.) I had an aversion to Miata for the normal reasons (size, etc.) but I test drove one and fell in love with how it handled. Bought a used 2001 special edition. Loved the car. Got hit by a semi on the highway (and walked away without a scratch, btw.) Bought another used one exactly the same. Could never see owning one from another year (hate the new body style.) One day I want to drop a V8 in it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2014 11:09 AM (TGgNi)

197 Lucas Electric jokes;

Not many people know that Land Rovers attempted to market a computer. Why did they stop? They could not find a way to get it to leak oil!

The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."

Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.

Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three position Lucas switch - Dim, Flicker and Off.

The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.

Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:09 AM (aTXUx)

198 I mentioned it before, but the 1968 Mustang GT always turned heads and still does today
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I think everyone loves the '68 Mustang but me. I do like it, but greatly prefer the '65-'66.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

My favorite is actually the '71 Mach I. Everyone hates the '71-'73 beast but me.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 08, 2014 11:10 AM (WtVhX)

199 kbdabear?

Thanks for the laugh. We had Mark VI, VII, and VIII Jags until Dad wised up and got a Mercedes. Lord, those things made Coastal Island Garage rich, they were in so often. Beautiful cars, but always in the shop for some damn thing.

Posted by: backhoe at February 08, 2014 11:11 AM (ULH4o)

200 Margret Carlson abortion new thread above.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2014 11:12 AM (TGgNi)

201 Most beautiful cars ever? My faves: The 1938 Phantom Corsair, built on a Cord chassis: http://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=1938_Phantom_Corsair And I love me some Morgan +8: http://dhcullen.com/cars/details/morgan-8#.UvaPzOCnDRo 1930 Packard 745 Deluxe Eight Phaetin -day-ummmm: http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Packard/30-Packard-745-Sport-Phaeton-DV-11-SJ_03.jpg

Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 11:15 AM (+cx5n)

202 Why is there no death penalty in the UK?

Lucas made their electric chairs

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:16 AM (aTXUx)

203 Phaetin = Phaeton (i.e. open-topped vehicle)

Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 11:16 AM (+cx5n)

204 Bought a used 2001 special edition. Loved the car. Got hit by a semi on the highway (and walked away without a scratch, btw.) --- Wow, that's awesome! I heard a story about a Miata losing a collision with an Irish Wolfhound. Don't know if it was true or not (seemed true at the time).

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 08, 2014 11:17 AM (zDsvJ)

205 Awesome that you survived, that is, not that the car got hit.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 08, 2014 11:17 AM (zDsvJ)

206 Working link for that incredible phaeton: http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Packard/30-Packard-745-Sport-Phaeton-DV-11-SJ_03.jpg

Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 11:18 AM (+cx5n)

207 Say what? link is ok when pasted, then appears goofy in the comment. Hmmmph. That long underline is supposed to be "img"

Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 11:19 AM (+cx5n)

208 Whaaa?? Something about the letters i m g don't agree with AOS.

Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 11:19 AM (+cx5n)

209 201 Love the Morgan. (only 100 kms per day for rental?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2014 11:21 AM (TGgNi)

210 OK, HERE is a working link -- worth the click! : http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/739331,11532,0,0/photo.aspx

Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 11:21 AM (+cx5n)

211 AOS uses a Lucas operating system.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 11:22 AM (l3vZN)

212 Something about the letters i m g don't agree with AOS. Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 03:19 PM

You want img? We're still agitating for ampersands

Management said no, until we learned to be responsible adults

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:22 AM (aTXUx)

213 205 Yeah, it surprised the hell out of me. After I got out of the car I spent about 5 minutes running my hands over my limbs checking for injuries on the shoulder. (Must have looked hilarious to people driving by.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2014 11:22 AM (TGgNi)

214 211 AOS uses a Lucas operating system. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 08, 2014 03:22 PM

That right there is funny and a threadwinner

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:23 AM (aTXUx)

215 Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 03:18 PM

http://tinyurl.com/llbg4r8

ESTIMATE: $175,000 - $225,000

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 08, 2014 11:24 AM (KQp38)

216 210 OK, HERE is a working link -- worth the click! :

http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/739331,11532,0,0/photo.aspx Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2014 03:21 PM

Yes it is. I can almost see Gloria Swanson stepping out of it now

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:25 AM (aTXUx)

217 Management said no, until we learned to be responsible adults _________ Chances of that? Slim to none, and Slim just left town. Sorry I missed out on so much of this one - I look forward to these car threads, but was working on something else today.

Posted by: shredded chi - cereal killer at February 08, 2014 11:25 AM (t+Ksb)

218 Yes, i m g is banned; bl*zer gets you an unupublishable post, and ampersands are meted out to those savvy enough to turn off scripts.

But we still have *fuck* and *revolution*, which is light years ahead of Tepid Gas.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 08, 2014 11:31 AM (cHZB7)

219 189 Jinx,
Yeah, the Lotus was so small that you 'Put It On', rather than get into it.
Room for two people, a tooth-brush, and a six-pack.

Nothing brings the pucker like a total power failure at 1am, 100mph, moonless night, on I-5 in the middle of nowhere.
You just hold very still and listen for the sound of gravel on the shoulder...

Posted by: ChrisP at February 08, 2014 11:31 AM (jdJpY)

220 *bah*

Posted by: Anthony L. at February 08, 2014 11:31 AM (34n6F)

221 Ferrari 308GTS, Christie Brinkley

Yeh, looks good

http://pics.imcdb.org/0is124/capture23cjc0.5269.jpg

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:35 AM (aTXUx)

222 What no Porsche 930 Turbo Slantnose? This is my car, 1987, 21878 miles, 330 HP, top 171 MPH. Mine is a lighter color silver than this one. I am second owner. http://tinyurl.com/mmukabp

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 08, 2014 11:39 AM (0FSuD)

223 222 What no Porsche 930 Turbo Slantnose? This is my car, 1987, 21878 miles, 330 HP, top 171 MPH.

Mine is a lighter color silver than this one. I am second owner.

http://tinyurl.com/mmukabp Posted by: Nip Sip at February 08, 2014 03:39 PM

That's the car thread equivalent of waving your dick around

Love the car

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:40 AM (aTXUx)

224 PJ O'Rourke, who is also a top notch automotive writer, referred to the Porsche 911 as "that ass-engined nazi slot car"

Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 11:41 AM (aTXUx)

225 The first Cobra, CSX2000 actually had a 260. And most of the 427 models were built with 428 engines.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 11:51 AM (aydSK)

226 Steve McQueen. Bullitt. Cool defined That was a 67.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 11:53 AM (aydSK)

227 Daddy had a '40 Ford coupe. Always said he wished he'd kept . AOP, I'm laughing cause I'm reading this in the driveway letting the water drip out of the door panels on my newly fixed Ferrari rip off baby!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 08, 2014 11:54 AM (dHKOq)

228 That's the car thread equivalent of waving your dick around Love the car Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2014 03:40 PM (aTXUx) Yeah, so true. I bought it 15 years ago from a friend's widow. I only put about 500 miles a year on it and my mechanic says I am fucking it up by not driving it. It is fucking dangerous as hell when that turbo kicks in.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 08, 2014 12:02 PM (0FSuD)

229 What no Porsche 930 Turbo Slantnose? This is my car, 1987, 21878 miles, 330 HP, top 171 MPH. Had a friend in college who inherited one when her dad died. She used to beg me to take her for drives in it, because it scared her too much to drive.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2014 12:16 PM (vBzXR)

230 Unless you're a racing driver with unlimited balls and money... The choice Porsche is the taut-bodied 993. I chose a 95, cause you get the good (manual) transmission and the simple induction. No valve adjustment means I have put 50K on with only oil changes in 3 years, plus a clutch (damn PO). The cabriolet roof is lame until you disconnect the motors and operate it manually. 3 sec up or down! Mine has zero options and is a Carrera 2, so it's a stripper. And it drives sideways better than any car I've ever had. So goddamn much fun and they are getting more expensive so act now.

Posted by: scottst at February 08, 2014 12:44 PM (Fp9Vt)

231 My suggestion for ugliest car (I know that's so last week) is the Volkswagen Thing. Maybe ugly isn't the right word but very interesting.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 08, 2014 02:54 PM (Xmw9g)

Late to this discussion, but what's "ugly" about the VW Thing is that it was such a shabby (and obviously so) copy of the WWII Kubelwagen that the VW factory built. The Kubelwagen had true off-road capabilities, and even existed in an amphibious version the Schwimm-wagen. VW could have taken the best features of the off-road buggies built by privateers, and made a real challenger to the Jeep. Instead, they made a boulevard car, with no more off-road ability than a standard Beetle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2014 01:22 PM (pFqpP)

232 A car I wish I had the foresight to buy: The Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe A car I wish I had the money to buy: Lamborghini Countach

Posted by: franksalterego at February 08, 2014 02:02 PM (Q/xym)

233 I like the Ferrari 275 gtb even more than the GTO. And it's a bargain at a cool million eight. More recently the 575 maranello and the new F12 are some of the most gorgeous cars around. Unlike the old ones they are reliable and can really be an everyday car.

Posted by: Tominca at February 08, 2014 02:12 PM (EgDyg)

234 The Mercedes 230/250/280Sls of the 60's. Known as 'Pagodas' for the distinctive roofline of the hard-top. Datsun copied the motor and made a smaller version of it for the 240z sans fuel injection. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars/90918/90918_Front_3-4_Web.jpg

Posted by: GOETZ VON BERLICHINGEN at February 08, 2014 02:17 PM (kLGix)

235 I call bullshit on the Mercedes. No one built more beautiful or elegant cars than Dusenberg.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at February 08, 2014 03:06 PM (dZGNV)

236 The Ferrari 250 GTO huh. No wonder Ferrari himself called the Jaguar E type "the most beautiful automobile he'd ever seen when it came out!

Posted by: Realwest at February 08, 2014 08:18 PM (30LIS)

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