1 It's a trap......

2 Does Mary Landrieu get to keep the 300 million dollar bribe if ObamaCare falls apart?

3 The last few years, I've worked under the assumption that no matter what happens, no matter what news comes out about disruption among the Democrats and signs of hope among Republicans, we'll still wind up losing and getting screwed somehow.

It's seems to have been a pretty accurate guide.

4 What's that old chestnut about laws and sausages?

SOMETHING is still going to pass here. . .and whatever it is, Obama will claim its a major triumph, plus it will suck.

5 PO or not we know where this leads if they pass anything.#1 is right and so was Admiral Akbar.

6 Uh check HotAir. Harry Reid already said Public option is still a go.

7 definate trap.

8 Actually that is Drudge. Go check Drudge Harry Reid says your entire post is SOL! No offense meant and we are screwed.

9 Yep. Trap.

Don't discard the obstruction card yet, GOP. Kill the bill, whatever it is or whatever Reid et al. say it is. It isn't.

10 http://tiny.cc/KLR7y I suck at linking but there you go. Harry Reid taking the part of one of the Thunderbirds. PUBLIC OPTION GO!

11 I really hate those idiots (the HOAs, not the Medal of Honor recipients). Posted by: DrewM

Thanks for clarifying!

12 From the article. WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Democrats said they reached a broad agreement on Tuesday on a possible compromise over a government-run insurance plan in a sweeping healthcare overhaul and would seek cost estimates on the deal. HEALTHCARE REFORM "We have a broad agreement," Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid told reporters, refusing to give any details on the talks. Reid said reports the government-run "public option" had been dropped were "not true."

13

Man, the liberal blogs are gonna look the opening of Live and Let Die tonight and tomorrow.

Thousands of flaming skulls.

If only we could somehow work Blagojevich into the story . . .

14 Trap. Read every page. It or the precursors that they can use to create it is in there someplace.

15

From the article.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Democrats said they reached a broad agreement on Tuesday on a possible compromise over a government-run insurance plan in a sweeping healthcare overhaul and would seek cost estimates on the deal.

HEALTHCARE REFORM

"We have a broad agreement," Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid told reporters, refusing to give any details on the talks.

Reid said reports the government-run "public option" had been dropped were "not true."

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 08, 2009 09:42 PM (yyp4x)

Your link sux. What does the rest of the article say?

16 Liberals are saying Reuters is reporting that Reid said reports the government-run “public option” had been dropped were “not true.”

17 So if the deal is they drop all gov covered to 55 or 50 taxpayers are screwed either way..like SNL said..at least buy me a dinner before you screw me Obama

18

Harry Reid has succeeded in saving poor peoples lives.

That's incredible.

19 Can I go back home since this was a false alarm?

20 Ben Nelson will fold and vote for cloture and then vote against the bill.

21 My bad on bursting our happy thoughts. I am normally just the guy that posts stupid sock puppets. Hold up let me pull one out.

22 That flaming skull...is that a picture of Ace from earlier?

23
really hate those idiots (the HOAs, not the Medal of Honor recipients). Posted by: DrewM

Many HOA's in Florida are populated by northeastern liberal lawyers who retired with nothing to do.  After a lifetime of screwing people up the squeakhole, it's very difficult to find another channel for life, so they volunteer to do battle with vendors, other homeowners, and anyone else who walks on their communal lawn. 

They also police the swimming pools looking for dogs, children, or anyone attempting to pee in the pool. 

24 It's just a ruse. These commies aren't through raping the country.

25 read every f*cking page, aloud, in the Senate with cites. It's in there incrementally, somewhere, I guarantee, and the whole bill is a POS. Hairy Reid is a poor excuse for an American, much less a legislator, or man, or human. Flogging is too god, nor Daschleizing. Throw his ass in the Vegas desert and make him dig his own scrawny grave, as so many have done before in Vegas. What happens there, stays there, ya know?

26
Could Mitch McConnell be bothered to comment?

27 Me thinks someone just saw their poll numbers!

28 "good", not "god". I apologize to God for blaspheming by including in a thread comment with "Harry Reid" or "legislator". My bad



pleasedontstrikemedeadagain

29 >Ben Nelson will fold and vote for cloture and then vote against the bill. Yeah, I gotta bridge I can sell ya. If this bitch breaks cloture, it's over gang. We're fucked.

30

It's like F Troop, with toupees!

31 Between the time when the liberals spent America into Oblivion, and the rise of the 2012 elections, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Somesay, destined to uphold the status quo. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!

32 If this bitch breaks cloture, it's over gang. We're fucked.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at December 08, 2009 09:54 PM (MCHyX)

Not as fucked as they're going to be.

33

Public option--it's in, no it's out.  Abortion language-in, no out.

Look folks, the real point is to create a moving target so opposition can't coalesce around a static bill, like the house version 3200.  They learned their lesson over the summer.  Any spoken opposition will be dismissed as worrying about a bill in a state of flux, and then suddenly, it will be done.  And signed.  And there won't be a thing we can do about it, until election day.

Same thing with Cap and trade legislation.  The EPA now has the green light to tax, fine and regulate one of the building blocks of life on Earth (CO2).  No need to pass that monster bill when they can foist responsibility off on an agency of the gov. that doesn't have to concern itself with electoral consequences, or the consent of the governed. 

Your chains and shackles have been cast for you by your government.  Step up and slip into your yoke.

34 22 That flaming skull...is that a picture of Ace from earlier?

Posted by: beedubya at December 08, 2009 09:50 PM (AnTyA)

It's because he saw a watermelon.

35 Gee grandpa... is it really true when you were a kid you got to pick out your own career and didn't have to work in the State Mines to pay off the Chinese?

36

ABC Radio News just quoted Reid as saying "We can't disclose what's in this bill, but it's going to be good."

And the public option is in.

37 "What's that old chestnut about laws and sausages?"

People who like them shouldn't watch them being made.  Attributed to Bismarck.

"Many HOA's in Florida are populated by northeastern liberal lawyers who retired with nothing to do.  After a lifetime of screwing people up the squeakhole, it's very difficult to find another channel for life, so they volunteer to do battle with vendors, other homeowners, and anyone else who walks on their communal lawn."

When I worked for the Florida Legislature a few years back, I was counsel to the select committee that went around the state taking testimony regarding possible revisions to the HOA and condo statutes.  That was surely the worst experience of my life, comparing unfavorably to discovering my near-fatal allergy to fire ant bites.

38 36

ABC Radio News just quoted Reid as saying "We can't disclose what's in this bill, but it's going to be good."

And the public option is in.

Posted by: Truman North at December 08, 2009 10:01 PM (XH/G

Along with your rationed crumbs of aspirin, you get a free bust of Stalin!

39 So is the public option suitably obfuscated that Lieberman will vote for it?

40

It's because he saw a watermelon.

BANNED!

41 How many taxpayer dollars will it take to convince Senator Nelson that taxpayer funded abortion is not that big a deal?  300 million is the line.  I'll take the over.

42 39 So is the public option suitably obfuscated that Lieberman will vote for it?

Posted by: AE at December 08, 2009 10:03 PM (kSfPT)

They'll ship a tankerful of underaged Ukrainian hookers up to Connecticut, and the fix will be in!

43 3 The last few years, I've worked under the assumption that no matter what happens, no matter what news comes out about disruption among the Democrats and signs of hope among Republicans, we'll still wind up losing and getting screwed somehow.

It's seems to have been a pretty accurate guide.
  Slicing like a fucking hammer.

44 I trust these fucknuts about as far as I can spit.

45 >ABC Radio News just quoted Reid as saying "We can't disclose what's in this bill, but it's going to be good." And your constitutional authority to hide legislation from the tax payers until it is too late comes from where, exactly, asshole? God, I hope we can undo all this after 2010.

46 It's the Pox-Eclipse!

47 It's seems to have been a pretty accurate guide.
  Slicing like a fucking hammer.

Posted by: Max Power at December 08, 2009 10:05 PM (q177U)

With a blathering pinhead like Michael Steele leading the charge, we'll all fly over a cliff.

48 I read the sentence below Baron Burnskull as "Reid just made a stinky."  Is there a difference?

49

reid wants medicare to drop to 55 or 50 years of age. with all of us baby boomers there in the next 10 years its bankrupt city...

50 sounds like dropping the public option for a vast expansion of medicare and medicaid

51 They are all liars who hate America.  At best, spineless wimps.  Expect nothing but the worst from them.

52 I'm shrinkinggggggggggg!

53 Is it pitchforks and torches time yet? In the John Adams miniseries, they had a great rendition of Tarring and Feathering (with an extra attraction of being ridden out of town on a rail). These are all traditions that need to come back.

54 Vet:  I think we ought to send them out via catapult

55 53 Is it pitchforks and torches time yet?

In the John Adams miniseries, they had a great rendition of Tarring and Feathering (with an extra attraction of being ridden out of town on a rail).

These are all traditions that need to come back.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at December 08, 2009 10:10 PM (MCHyX)

Lesson: don't mess with John Hancock's ship!

56
Is it pitchforks and torches time yet?

Yep, the mob is in the Banhammer thread.

57 Here is some leaked info: http://tinyurl.com/ydrf4mg But Democratic aides said that the group had tentatively agreed on a proposal that would replace a government-run health care plan with a menu of new national, privately-run insurance plans modeled after the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, which covers more than eight million federal workers, including members of Congress, and their dependents. A government-run plan would be retained as a fall-back option, the aides said, and would be triggered only if the new proposal failed to meet targets for providing affordable insurance coverage to a specified number of people. The agreement would also allow Americans between age 55 and 64 to buy coverage through Medicare, beginning in 2011.

58 Drop the medicare age to 50/55 and allow medicaid up to $60,000 (!) and you got Public Option. Not like there would be that many people left to support the private insurance industry after you include all those folks.

59

With a blathering pinhead like Michael Steele leading the charge, we'll all fly over a cliff.

It will be in a flaming Pinto with a pink gorilla at the wheel, with a bumber sticker that says "Kerry 04" on the back.

60 Nelson will cave in. His head is filled with Sea Men.

61

53 Is it pitchforks and torches time yet?

...or for hoisting the Black Flag?

Ace is in a mood...might as well take advantage of it

62 >A government-run plan would be retained as a fall-back option, the aides said, and would be triggered only if the new proposal failed to meet targets for providing affordable insurance coverage to a specified number of people. Uh-huh... and it would be _so_ hard to make the goals impossible to reach. Trap. OT: How the hell do you guys make those nice quoted blocks?

63

Harry Reid can't disclose what is in the bill??

Why not?

Transparency means transparent.

64 /sock off

65 @63 Maybe it's invisible... and typed on a magical typewriter that only he can see.

66

Let me help you out here friends.

LIBTARDS ARE DISHONEST.

LIBTARDS CANNOT GET ELECTED UNLESS THEY RAPE YOU and GIVE TO DEAD BEATS.

If you trust a LIBTARD, you may be RETARDED.

67

They'll have the public option in the bill.  They just won't call it that.  That's how Democrats work.  It's all about the words, not the facts.

68

I know what's in the bill that can't be disclosed.

But Harry Reid? Never heard of him.

69 Is this like the climax of "Cats" when Old Deuteronomy comes out of a hole in the stage?

70 "Broad Agreement"

Sexist pig.

Now get me a donut, with a side of braaaaains.

71

OT: Time Mag #1 scandal of 2009 is.... Mark Sanford!!!

# 5... Mark Ensign!

#9... ACORN!

Revised Scandal of the Year: #1 is... TIME's omission of any Obama cabinet resignation for tax irregularities, DOJ refusal to prosecute Black Panthers, or the the Global Warming emails!

Ooops, no - revision to the revision:  #1 to #10 inclusive... TIME Magazine's beclowning of itself!!

72

Torches and pitchforks, huh?  It would be a start. But only a start.

The Left doesn't respect or fear the average American.  Groups that over time have shown themselves willing and capable of civil unrest, from rioting to filling up jails with protesters, get their way.   Tea Partiers and Town Hall protesters who clean up after themselves, leave in a timely fashion, cross at the crosswalks (with the light), doesn't garner fear or respect, only disdain.

Oh, don't forget mockery.  Even the precedent mocks "those who disagree" with his goals.

73 would be triggered only if the new proposal failed to meet targets

The target will be so high, even NASA won't get over it.

74 They'll simply rename the Public Option "the Bublic Plopshun" and charge our kids an extra 19 trillion dollars..

75 Everything described either is or leads to a public option.

Kill the bill!!!!

76

Harry Reid told us the " war is lost".

Harry Reid told us.  " it's killing our country, it's killing the planet, "  Non-existant global warming.

By and large, Americans have come to believe that is a person is a Congressman or Senator, he/she must be smart.   FUCKING NONSENSE.

Reid is a dishonest Grinch.  He'd steal your Grandmothers' last light bulb to save his own wrinkled ass.

77
Wait.

The Global Warming Hoax is not Time's biggest scandal of 2009?

78 It's doesn't matter anyway. We're broke.

79 @77 No, that would be the #1 Scandal of the last 30 years... maybe of all time... but surely not confined to a single piddling year.

80 The real scandal is that 52% of the American electorate were so freaking stupid, they voted for a kid's birthday party clown to be President.

81

#1 scandal of the last 30 years.  Obama.   He is a loser, a fraud, and as dishonest as a cheap, corrupt, incompetent, unskilled, un/inexperienced phony can  be.

The ELITIST EAST-COAST LIBTARD COALITION is doubling down on their own DEMISE.

Stupid is as LIBTARD does.

82 And it's whispered that soon, if we all call the tune, then the piper will lead us to reason. And it makes me Wonder...

83

Texas-Jew,  I'm shocked.  You're only calling him a CLOWN, because he's HALF BLACK and HALF MUSLIM.

 

BIGOT.

84 Okay guys, who's going to jump onto that tank? Which way's the Wall? When do we all storm the Presidential Palace yelling "Rat! Rat! Rat!"?

Don't tell me we're going to sit around saying "We're fucked"?

85 >Don't tell me we're going to sit around saying "We're fucked"? For the moment, yes. The vast majority of the country doesn't realize that fact yet... they still think things are "normal". That'll change and with it, the normalcy.

86

77

It's like when Charles Barkley and Karl Malone won NBA MVPs in the 90s.

Global warming could've been the #1 scandal every single year since it's been pedaled on the public, like MJ and the MVPs. The voters sometimes get bored.

And Time's editors have heads filled with semen.

*ducks*

87

Okay guys, who's going to jump onto that tank? Which way's the Wall? When do we all storm the Presidential Palace yelling "Rat! Rat! Rat!"?

arhooley at December 08, 2009 10:33 PM

 

It must be getting late, cuz I read that as yelling Rat tat tat! and the visual of men with their fingers in the shape of a gun running at the white house made me laugh...til I remembered that there would be live fire returned.

88 I suck at linking but there you go. Harry Reid taking the part of one of the Thunderbirds. PUBLIC OPTION GO! Or, the Voltron version, if you prefer: SHIT SANDWICH, ASSEMBLE!

89 This post is simply to vent.  Steny Hoyer is a LYING MOTHERFUCKER! I want to punch him in his lying fucking eyebags.  On Greta, he is blaming the repub's for HC failures.  Do the Dems not HAVE A FILI PROOF MAJORITY??!!  Blame Bush, how cute. FUCK IT ALL, since I may as well go all in as a "racist", since I oppose dear leaders policies, I say this:  "I don't even know what to say, I am that fucking mad".  There, I said it, but having said that, I also say, FUCK ALL THE GODDAMN POLITICIANS THAT THINK WE ARE STUPID, THEY WILL PAY WITH.......................!  THE END!  FUCK EM ALL IN THE EYE! Peace to you all and Merry Christmas

George

90 Are the republicans doing ANYTHING to try and slow this up or have they folded?

91 Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 08, 2009 10:41 PM (Poe30)
------------------------------

The "Rat!" thing was how it ended for the Ceaucescus in Romania.

They're going to have to pry this country from my cold, dead heart.

92 Yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, you can change the road your'er on.

93

Man, when are those meteors gonna show up?

94

This is what Obama said at the jobs summit this week:

We have a structural deficit that is real and growing, apart from the financial crisis. We inherited it. We're spending about 23 percent of GDP and we take in 18 percent of GDP, and that gap is growing, because health care costs — Medicare and Medicaid in particular — are growing, and we've got to do something about that.

So the Democrats solution is to EXPAND Medicare and Medicaid?  Wow, I guess that makes sense to them, but I'm baffled. It must be that "pass something, anything, and will call it a success" mentality.

 

95 Screw the whole steaming pile of dog squeeze! Drop this load like my dog drops his load at the park!

96 Yes, arhooly, I remember that, but I also remember that the military stood by silently and let it happen.

97 10 http://tiny.cc/KLR7y

I suck at linking but there you go. Harry Reid taking the part of one of the Thunderbirds.
PUBLIC OPTION GO!

Type a word or phrase highlight it hit chain link Source drop down put url beside it agree with everything.

98 Voila

99

And as we wind on down the road.

Our shaddows taller than our Soul.

There walks a lady we all know..

Who shines white light and wants to show

How everything still turns to gold

And if you listen really hard

the tune will come to you at last

When All Is One, And One is All

To Be A Rock, And Not To Roll

100 So Reid can't disclose details of the bill???  Really???  Is the PUBLIC option classified?  Sounds more like a classified option until the vote is over type dealio.  Nov 2010 can't get here soon enough.

101 Well, that settles it, then.  A Flaming Skull on ObamaCare barely merits a "meh".   Guess once one locks onto the ONT, there's no going back, though I find this level of apathy a little disconcerting.

102 There is no way they're going to drop the public option. No. Way. This is all smoke and mirrors. They'd rather give up and try again another day than let through a healthcare bill that doesn't put us all under the thumb of socialized medicine and dependent on the government for our very lives.

103 101 Well, that settles it, then.  A Flaming Skull on ObamaCare barely merits a "meh".   Guess once one locks onto the ONT, there's no going back, though I find this level of apathy a little disconcerting.     When the end is near you tend to gravitate to sex and alcohol.

104 When the end is near you tend to gravitate to sex and alcohol.

and when its far, or middlin', or obscured by clouds

105

That will drive the Olbermann Left out of their minds. They'll claim it's simply going to enrich insurance companies.

Yes, it will, and it's already started.  The news isn't even 12 hours old yet, I've already been told by a leftie I know that "the insurance companies are celebrating victory now".

Whatever.  So, they SEEM to kill the public option (I don't trust them enough to really believe it's dead and buried for good), but even so, I'm sure they'll just replace it with something almost as terrible.

106 If you have price controls and can't bar existing conditions, how exactly do the insurance companies benefit? Lefties are so fucking stupid. This will KILL private insurance.

107 Luckily I'm printed in invisible ink.

108 It doesn't matter what they put in this piece of $hit if it gets 60 votes. All of the bad will be put back in and all of the good will be taken out in committee with the house. Then it will only take 51 votes to pass the compromised bill. Do you think the House version will be more moderate? No way. It will end up with everything that the lying moderates claimed would not be in it. Nelson! Weak unprincipled asshole. We all knew that all of the Dems would go for this crap and we ALL have to make them pay for it. Even if your Congressional delegates are against it, make the effort to tell them to vote against it. This way they can tell the assholes with a D after their names that there is going to be hell to pay come 2010.

109

Kill the bill.

"Compromising" just means that you are still giving them what they want.

NO concessions, NO deals, just say "NO!"

If they still force this "health care" bill, it then becomes a case of RAPE....

110 There is no way they're going to drop the public option.
----------------------

Flubber, I agree. But they'll rename it something like "the ultra-competitive, free enterprise, no-interference, tort reform option" and thus rope in the fence-sitters.

But we're not going to let that happen, are we?

111

edit:

If they still force this "health care" bill on the country, it then becomes a case of RAPE....

112

This way they can tell the assholes with a D after their names that there is going to be hell to pay come 2010.

 

I'm thinking 1994 is going to look like a fucking cake walk compared to 2010. With the EPA and the new "green" stimulus bill comming, with healthcare and all the lying bullshit....people are going to be so freakin pissed!

113

If they still force this "health care" bill on the country, it then becomes a case of RAPE....

Then we can abort this monstrocity?

114 Fuckers just jacked up the hood ornament and drove a completely different car underneath it.  Who knows what the hell is in this freaking thing anymore?   I sure don't, and I read a pretty good chunk of the prior Senate bill.

115

You know, these fucking prix bait and switch, switch and bait, lie and steal, steal and lie, pretend, obfuscate...they bribe and buy, buy and bribe, horse trade, they blackmail and they offer candy and pork.

 

AND NOT ONE MOTHERFUCKING SINGLE SENATOR BLOWS THE WHISTLE ON THIS.

CORRECTION.  NOT ONE LIBTARD DEMOCRAT CALLS REID ET AL OUT.  THIS SHIT GOES ON AND NO A SINGLE MOTHER FUCKING ONE OF THE LIBTARD DEMOCRATS HAS ANY MORAL PRINCIPLES.

116

Purple, it's all TRANSPARENT.

This COMPLETE and WHOLE...SENATE CHARADE is about saving REIDS JOB.

I'm going to VOMIT.

117 I think this is a new tactic to deflect critics -- keep changing it wholesale so fast before it gets voted on that any criticism can be labeled as "wrong".

118

It's a tactic to claim a nonsensical victory after doing nothing.  Reid, Pelosi and Obama have never accomplished ANYTHING in their lives.

NOTHING.

119  He is doing this to suck in enough votes to pass  it.  Then, in reconciliation with the house, he will stand by while Pelosi jams it as far to the left as she can.  Then the "public option", abortion and the destruction of our medical system will only require 51 votes to pass.

120 DonÂ’t believe anything Harry says or does. There can be no compromise and the public option isnÂ’t dead until somebody drives a stake completely through its heart. Be vigilant . . . Harry will lie, cheat, obfuscate and connive until he finds an opening for that socialist healthcare manifesto. The majority of this government simply canÂ’t be trusted.

121 LIES, LIES, LIES. The so-called "public option" is the key. The rest of the 1500 pages is meaningless. The public option will allow the government to control every aspect of our lives. By hook or by crook it will be in there. KILL THIS BILL NOW!!!!!!!

122 So there is a broad agreement among the nattering nitwits....you have NO idea how thrilled, and reassured, I am about all of this!

123

Rep. SchakowskyÂ’s husband, Robert Creamer, used to be the leader of Citizen Action/Illinois. He also founded its predecessor, Illinois Public Action, in which Ms. Schakowsky served as Program Director. He runs a political consulting firm, the Strategic Consulting Group, which lists ACORN and the SEIU among its clients and which made $541,000 working for disgraced former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich.

Creamer resigned from Citizen Action/Illinois after the FBI began investigating him for bank fraud and tax evasion at Illinois Public Action. He was convicted in 2006 and sentenced to five months in federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana, plus eleven months of house arrest.

While in prison—or “forced sabbatical,” he called it—Creamer wrote a lengthy political manual, Listen to Your Mother: Stand Up Straight! How Progressives Can Win (Seven Locks Press, 2007).

The book was endorsed by leading Democrats and their allies, including SEIU boss Andy Stern—the most frequent visitor thus far to the Obama White House—and chief Obama strategist David Axelrod, who noted that Creamer’s tome “provides a blueprint for future victories.”

In the book, Creamer draws lessons from decades of experience on the radical left, including the teachings of arch-radical Saul Alinsky, and several episodes from Rep. Schakowsky’s political career. He also lays out a “Progressive Agenda for Structural Change,” which includes a ten-point plan for foisting universal health care on the American people in 2009:

* “We must create a national consensus that health care is a right, not a commodity; and that government must guarantee that right.”
* “We must create a national consensus that the health care system is in crisis.”
* “Our messaging program over the next two years should focus heavily on reducing the credibility of the health insurance industry and focusing on the failure of private health insurance.”
* “We need to systematically forge relationships with large sectors of the business/employer community.”
* “We need to convince political leaders that they owe their elections, at least in part, to the groundswell of support of [sic] universal health care, and that they face political peril if they fail to deliver on universal health care in 2009.”
* “We need not agree in advance on the components of a plan, but we must foster a process that can ultimately yield consensus.”
* “Over the next two years, we must design and organize a massive national field program.”
* “We must focus especially on the mobilization of the labor movement and the faith community.”
* “We must systematically leverage the connections and resources of a massive array of institutions and organizations of all types.”
* “To be successful, we must put in place commitments for hundreds of millions of dollars to be used to finance paid communications and mobilization once the battle is joined.”

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