December 18, 2009

Smart Diplomacy(TM) Copenhagen Edition: Obama Insults China*
— DrewM

Cause pissing off the guy underwriting your idiotic spending plans is teh Smartz!

Mr Obama met Wen Jiabao, the Chinese Prime Minister, tonight in attempt to repair relations after Mr Wen had taken offence at his insistence on the need for reliable monitoring of every countryÂ’s emissions.

In his speech Mr Obama said: “Without any accountability, any agreement would be empty words on a page.”

Mr Wen apparently interpreted this as an attempt to subject China to external scrutiny, despite Mr ObamaÂ’s insistence that the monitoring system would respect national sovereignty.

This is where it gets confusing. Obama is right, if you are going to do this, you have to be able to monitor it. Thing is, I don't want to see this treaty happen. Call me crazy but I like living in the modern world and that means emitting carbon, lots of it, which is fine by me.

So, I think Obama is an idiot for insulting the Chinese but I'm glad he's that stupid because the Bizarro World in which we now live, the Chinese are right and I hope they kill the damn thing.

Meanwhile, it looks like the deals have fallen through and they are giving up on a binding treaty but likely to issue a statement calling for even crazier shit than they could pass now.

With time running out to forge a comprehensive climate agreement, negotiators at the U.N.-sponsored talks are considering a new draft agreement that would not require a binding treaty by 2010 but would lay the groundwork for a more ambitious target in limiting the rise of temperatures around the globe.

...Many environmentalists, as well as leaders from both Europe and the developing world, have said they are disappointed there will not be a legally binding treaty finished here in Copenhagen. To delay it until 2012, as the new drafts states, could cause a major outcry from some groups.

The proposal, a political statement labeled "the Copenhagen Accord," also lacks the kind of independent verification of emission reductions by developing countries than the United States and others are insisting on. It calls upon the world's nations to collectively reduce their emissions 80 percent by 2050.

These people really are insane. They can't get enough people to commit economic suicide this year so their plan is to demand even more stringent targets in the future. If people are going to walk the comparatively easier plank now, who in the world thinks they will agree to a worse deal in a few years?

I give the enviro-socialist a gentleman's B+ for their logic.

*Something went screwy with the blog software and it ate the original version of this post. The original comments are here (for now) if you are interested.

Posted by: DrewM at 12:41 PM | Comments (21)
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1 B+ in blogging there, Drew.

Posted by: Iskandar at December 18, 2009 12:43 PM (t19oz)

2 The White House has described this as a "meaningful agreement" by which they mean a meaningless agreement.  But it still sounds better than "bitch slapped in Copenhagen again."  

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 18, 2009 12:43 PM (xxgag)

3 "“Without any accountability, any agreement would be empty words on a page.”"

Gee, too bad you weren't there to tell Bill Clinton that re: North Korean nuclear disarmament talks.  Or, for that matter, yourself re: Iran and, oh, pretty much anyone else who hates the US.  What a sanctimonious asshole.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at December 18, 2009 12:43 PM (SxA2Q)

4 Wow. It's back from the void.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2009 12:44 PM (R2fpr)

5 Can we have a word with you Drew?

Posted by: China internet gatekeeper at December 18, 2009 12:44 PM (Ylv1H)

6 With time running out to forge a comprehensive climate agreement, negotiators at the U.N.-sponsored talks are considering a new draft agreement that would not require a binding treaty by 2010 but would lay the groundwork for a more ambitious target in limiting the rise of temperatures around the globe.


In other words, "Shit, they're on to us. Let's wait for a year or two so the email thing has a chance to blow over."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2009 12:45 PM (l1Wlr)

7 If they were honest and said "The wheels are falling off this thing, we'll be lucky if we're not in jail by 2012 so you should be lucky we're even willing to kick the can down the road" the Communist mobs would lynch them before they even got back to the airport.


Posted by: mrkwong at December 18, 2009 12:45 PM (G8Eo0)

8 Freedom wins! USA: 1 China: 347

Posted by: runninrebel at December 18, 2009 12:45 PM (i3PJU)

9 Obama once again proves that he is woefully incapable of being President of the United States.

Posted by: Harry at December 18, 2009 12:46 PM (G9cqm)

10 That's funny, coming from Empty Words In A Suit.

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2009 12:46 PM (FcR7P)

11 it didn't disappear, it was cloaked

I'm so ashamed of myself at running with such a cheap joke.  It made me laugh, though.

My Chinese buddy here said "har har" (but I think he was sarcastic, I can't tell)

oh for god's sake, make me stop . . . .

(seriously, I'm pretty much a sinophile)




Posted by: moron # 2461153 at December 18, 2009 12:47 PM (p1s9n)

12 AH-HA! Drew, I think you finally got the bug I've had for years -- is this when it won't let you edit a post? It gives you a bunch of errors at the bottom of the gray posting page? And just won't let you do anything until you log out or delete the old post and put up a copy? DAMN I HATE THAT ERROR.

Posted by: ace at December 18, 2009 12:53 PM (/4E2O)

13 Drew, I think you finally got the bug I've had for years


Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Ace has teh herp.  How'd you get it, Drew?  Hmmm?


Posted by: moron # 23451 at December 18, 2009 12:55 PM (p1s9n)

14 Obama insults China? Didn't he bow deeply enough? I would have thought that he would have given the full kowtow.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 18, 2009 12:59 PM (4ver8)

15 I need to add President Hu Jintao to my thank you list.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 18, 2009 01:01 PM (1hM1d)

16 My original comments were much better than this one.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 18, 2009 01:05 PM (DIYmd)

17 Wen is the communist. I'm asking a question.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at December 18, 2009 01:10 PM (bN5ZU)

18 It calls upon the world's nations to collectively reduce their emissions 80 percent by 2050.

And a 25% reduction was researched in Japan as requiring residential use to be cut 50%... how much heating oil is left when you cut 80% of the total?

Oh... none.  so the plan is to depopulate the northern half of America for half of every year... but wait no CO2 emission is allowed for travel.

Hmm, why not just admit the plan involves killing off half of humanity ASAP.  Especially the poor, as they'll be the first to freeze or starve.  I'm sure the liberals would love a plan to end poverty forever (by killing all the damned poor people).  Just leave out that bit in parenthesis, they don't read fine print anyhow. 

Weird that the conservatives are opposing the plan of killing all the poor people and the liberals are gung ho to get to the killin as soon as possible.  Well not really weird; but if you believed the liberal explanation of thing it would look weird.

Posted by: Gekkobear at December 18, 2009 01:13 PM (X0NX1)

19

In order to uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh make an uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh omlete, it is uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh necess....nece.....necessary to break a few eggs.  And uhhhhhhhhh as I look out over your uhhhhhhhhhhhhh faces, I am reminded of uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nothing more than uhhhhhhhhh so many uhhhhhhhhhh eggs.

And to My uhhhhhhhhhhhh Chinese counterpart, may I say simply: Dui lei lo mo.

Posted by: Prezidizzle Obizzle at December 18, 2009 05:08 PM (vupGF)

20 North Pole, AK having a heat wave at -13F (feels like N/A F).

Not sure what "N/A F" means, but "not available but real f#ckin' cold" may fit the bill.

Posted by: RTH615 at December 18, 2009 06:51 PM (Rytlc)

21 Sexy Lingerie is commonly used as a buzzword in the textile and garment industry. This is widely used to describe the underwear worn by women and is a term that denotes sexy.

Posted by: billystevens at January 20, 2011 10:49 AM (8gXi+)

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