November 22, 2009

SNL rips Obama a new one
— Uncle Jimbo

Instapundit has this embedded, but it's not NBC's copy so they will probably get it pulled. The bloom is certainly off Obama's onion and this opening sequence for SNL is absolutely wicked. It takes a minute to get rolling, you have to wait for the Obama drone to shut up. But once it starts they tear him up on every one of his socialist programs and coming from the Chinese leader, that's rich. He is in deep shite now.

Bonus Lefty Troll Stupidity! [ace]: It's heartening to see the lefty trolls don't only spread their retardation on this site. Check out the first comment (at the moment) listed under this video on NBC's site:

Anyone who looks at this is a slam on Obama is watching too much Fox News. SNL and NBC are slamming the idiots who think the USA governs it's people in a superior way to China. Chinese government lies to their people all the time. But at least all their people know it. This skit is a slam on the left and right here in the states.

Uh-huh.

But seriously, if you haven't watched it, it's worth a watch. It's in the middle where the "Chinese President" really starts up on Obamanomics. I'm embedding it for your convenience.

Thanks for that to a poster whose email name looks like a contraction of a real name, so I won't post the name.

Posted by: Uncle Jimbo at 08:43 AM | Comments (187)
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1 About damn time.

Posted by: RarestRX at November 22, 2009 08:48 AM (rmNST)

2 That's entertainment!

Posted by: Never Mind at November 22, 2009 08:48 AM (kXJ/h)

3 Obama?  Never heard of him.

Posted by: charles gibson at November 22, 2009 08:52 AM (Vqruj)

4 Uh, can I, uh, hide the decline?

Uh, TOTUS, uh, really, uh, let me down, uh, last night.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 22, 2009 08:52 AM (bgcml)

5

Ho ho ho

what a douche our Precedent is, what no Bow

Posted by: chimpy_hussein_mcBain at November 22, 2009 08:53 AM (DLaJY)

6 What makes you think he's in deep shiite?  He's on the verge of turning the US into Lower Canada.  And the SNL freaks are cheering him on.  good lord...

Posted by: les grossman at November 22, 2009 08:53 AM (Vc/xe)

7 "I know what a clunker is!"

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 08:53 AM (Bmk3r)

8 "when someone is doing sex to me"....freaking awesome.

I'm sure the writers who came up with this will have an army of IRS auditors "doing sex to them" next tax season.

Posted by: The Hammer at November 22, 2009 08:54 AM (YBTwf)

9 First funny thing on SNL since Dan Ackroyd and the bass-o-matic. 

Posted by: pep at November 22, 2009 08:55 AM (DZyVK)

10 Who's the actress playing the interpreter?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 22, 2009 08:55 AM (Jnb0t)

11 "You cannot pay us in clunkers." Nice.

Posted by: Gabriel Syme at November 22, 2009 08:55 AM (X2xSP)

12 So, will anyone in the objective, non partisan, independent Press now start asking Obama about his mammoth deficits and irresponsible borrowing?

Ha Ha. I crack myself up.

Yeah, SNL fact check in 3...2...1

When you think about it, Obama is no better then those house flippers that lied to secure a loan they couldn't pay back and are now demanding a bailout...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 22, 2009 08:56 AM (bgcml)

13 he's fair game now

Posted by: Frank G at November 22, 2009 08:57 AM (I+To0)

14 So, when does CNN finish up fact checking this skit?

Posted by: buster mcDissenter at November 22, 2009 08:58 AM (zN9bC)

15

What happened to respect for the office of The President of The United States?

On this site as well as HA so many revolting comment about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Posted by: Stupid asshole who likes to sockpuppet people at November 22, 2009 08:58 AM (Kv77J)

16 oops, 18-1 you beat me to it.

Posted by: buster mcDissenter at November 22, 2009 08:59 AM (zN9bC)

17 When does the CNN fact check of this skit air?

Posted by: Trump at November 22, 2009 08:59 AM (hK2Ya)

18 CNN fact checkers will probably correct one item...when the Obamas "do sex to each other" she isn't the one receiving. 

Just sayin...


#6 you're right, in some ways, but I must say, SNL went pretty much all in. 

Posted by: The Hammer at November 22, 2009 09:01 AM (YBTwf)

19 CNN will report this SNL video is fake; that wasn't really Obama.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 09:01 AM (Bmk3r)

20

@ #15

I didn't vote for President Obama but I wished him well and celebrated the historical moment when this country elected a black (kinda) President.

And then he started doing sex to me!!!

Posted by: Major Major Major Major at November 22, 2009 09:04 AM (CIyAB)

21 This can also be seen as another way to protect Barry. When hiding the truth no longer works, just bring it out, but as a joke that stays a joke and doesn't translate into realization that Barry is a clown. It's a Hail Mary pass, if that is what they are trying here.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 09:04 AM (Bmk3r)

22
Now that was funny. I hope Lorne Michaels enjoys his profanity laced phone call from ballet boy.

Posted by: Blazer at November 22, 2009 09:04 AM (+FzLa)

23 BURNED!

Oh yeah, the honeymoon is over. The sketch was funny, and nicely sums up our current relationship with the PRC in the bargain. Good job by the SNL writers, who haven't had a good political gag run since the '96 election.


Posted by: exdem13 at November 22, 2009 09:05 AM (lYKj1)

24 #15  Dude, less than two dozen comments so far.  We are just getting started.

Posted by: John Galt at November 22, 2009 09:06 AM (Ylv1H)

25 GONE! It's been yanked...

Posted by: 5Cats at November 22, 2009 09:08 AM (O5yP8)

26

On this site as well as HA so many revolting comment about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Posted by: Allahpundit at November 22, 2009 12:58 PM (Kv77J)


Hell, I've been arguing we need to start emulating what has worked for the left for two years now.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 22, 2009 09:09 AM (bgcml)

27 They apparently also did a very predictable 2012 Palin "film" (movie distaster).  But that's nothing compared to this.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 22, 2009 09:10 AM (I2aaX)

28 I disagree eman, the death knell to any presidency is it being shown as the butt of jokes. Not so say a skit on every blue moon will change public perception but if it becomes ongoing, there is no upside for the administration at all.

Posted by: Drider at November 22, 2009 09:10 AM (aZn+0)

29

Here's the direct link to the Instapundit version for those foreign dogs like me for whom the Man's official, NBC-version won't play "in your area".

Posted by: andycanuck at November 22, 2009 09:11 AM (2qU2d)

30

When I spoke with the greatest President ever, I asked him how he formed his domestic policy. God Obama replied "I would just have quote Zappa and say ram it, ram it, ram it up the poop chute".

This is Andrea Mitchell reporting.

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at November 22, 2009 09:13 AM (FOcCx)

31 Actually, if Obama was really SOL, it would have been "which one, the banking failure, or the one you voted for yourself with that worthless stimulus program...?

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 22, 2009 09:16 AM (I2aaX)

32

The skit had it right.  Obama has been kissing little brown rings all over the world, and to to not include the Chinese in the squeakhole smooching protocol is arrogant and condescending. 

Posted by: Fish at November 22, 2009 09:16 AM (6mfq0)

33 GALLUP UPDATE:

Well, now that Gallup has broken down 50% for Obama, looks like the horse is out of the barn. Today we hit 48%.

On top of that SNL is positively ripping Obama a new one.

The say that ridicule is a greater weapon than guns and bullets.  Well, that being said, I think it is fair to say that Obama is being ridiculed, not just by the right, but by the left now.

Great days.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 22, 2009 09:18 AM (Gm9rd)

34 Making fun of the cowards who reject the KSM trial will make for  great tv shows.

Elites are so cool.

Oh, and that stupid working class that will be lined up in hospital corridors begging for a crumb of medical care will be hilarious.

Elites are so cool.

I especially like their getting richer and richer by our own money.

Elites are so cool.


Posted by: non_dhimmie at November 22, 2009 09:20 AM (cFwGO)

35 What a missed opportunity!  When the obama character says that they're 'reforming' so that the housing bubble will never happen again, the Chinese character should've bent over and said 'Barney Frank'!

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at November 22, 2009 09:21 AM (CMPXK)

36 Yeah, they really ripped him a new one *rolls eyes*

And followed it immediately by a fake commercial about a Palin/Beck ticket in 2012, and how it would bring about planetary destruction.

Where's that chicken?


Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 22, 2009 09:21 AM (p1iaB)

37 Lone Marauder
that was funny too how the libtards' world will explode if SP becomes prez--
priceless!!!

Posted by: deepdodo at November 22, 2009 09:25 AM (W1Pmt)

38 A weak start, and SNL will always hate Palin more.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 22, 2009 09:26 AM (H7Rlw)

39 It's available at hulu... http://www.hulu.com/watch/110317/saturday-night-live-china-cold-open

Posted by: Jamfish at November 22, 2009 09:30 AM (Bfw+y)

40

What happened to respect for the office of The President of The United States?

On this site as well as HA so many revolting comment about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Sometime around the Presidency of George W. Bush  Democrats in Congress, Hollywood, MSM, et.al.  declared that the office of the President is no longer to be respected.  When our political elite stop screwing the public, abusing our trust, whoring our country to the highest bidder, and screwing our flag and constitution, I'll return the respect.  Until then, they are dead to me including the President.

Now can I have a kiss?

Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2009 09:30 AM (llSaz)

41 28, yeah, a stretch it is.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 09:31 AM (Bmk3r)

42

Give me a break...

A bit of history - SNL has sucked since 1975. They could never do skits to save their ass, and SCTV and even Carol Burnett ripped their heinies. They attacked Ford relentlessly in '76 to get Carter elected and look at what that piece of shit turned into.

Pathetic lefties. By next week, they'll be kissing Obama's ass like it was the papal ring.

 

Posted by: TexasJew at November 22, 2009 09:32 AM (l7Ql3)

43 Who was the host?  I am trying to watch in Canada but it looks like last night's is not up yet here.  (The latest was January Jones and opened with Slow Joe.)

Posted by: logprof at November 22, 2009 09:32 AM (I3Udb)

44 No, President Hu, you do not look like Mrs Obama. 

You are much more attractive.

That is why he is trying to do sex to you.

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 22, 2009 09:32 AM (KWhJd)

45 Bill Mitchell at November 22, 2009 01:18 PM (Gm9rd)

Let's not forget President Right Angle started out with a Gallup +56 difference.
As of today he's down to +4

Posted by: YIKES! at November 22, 2009 09:32 AM (LswIE)

46 15

What happened to respect for the office of The President of The United States?

On this site as well as HA so many revolting comment about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Posted by: Allahpundit at November 22, 2009 12:58 PM (Kv77J)


I haven't even gotten warmed up yet. By the way, how's Fatty McButterpants lately?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 22, 2009 09:35 AM (erIg9)

47 Thanks andycanuck!  Watching now. . . .

Posted by: logprof at November 22, 2009 09:37 AM (I3Udb)

48

If you haven't seen the SNL Palin -Beck "movie trailer", I would encourage you to do so before assuming it is a hit on Palin - it isn't at all.

It is actually a not-very-subtle dig at the Dems' over-the-top scare-mongering about Palin: the movie is "Produced by the DNC".  And the cherry on top is the tag line "From the Mind of Keith Olbermann"!

They aren't laughing with him with that zinger, I tells ya!

Posted by: sherlock at November 22, 2009 09:37 AM (ktKOD)

49 is SNL back?....

Posted by: FU52 at November 22, 2009 09:39 AM (gSCDY)

50 15

What happened to respect for the office of The President of The United States?

On this site as well as HA so many revolting comment about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Posted by: Allahpundit at November 22, 2009 12:58 PM (Kv77J)


"Respect for the office of..." is just a form of words officeholders use to duck criticism. And the Right has decided it doesn't want to lose nobly anymore, so now it's fighting back, with the emphasis on back.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at November 22, 2009 09:39 AM (ElVal)

51 What happened to respect for the office of The President of The United States?

It's hard to respect any job that would have the likes of Barack "Chicago Nobody" Obama.

Posted by: Methos at November 22, 2009 09:41 AM (CoDwG)

52 Yeah, the Palin 2012 video pokes fun at Lefties, not Palin. The YouTube commenters don't get it.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 09:43 AM (Bmk3r)

53

On this site as well as HA so many revolting comments about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Did you enjoy that round trip to Aplha Centauri during 2000-2008?  Back here on Earth, it was pretty vicious, with "artists" making movies and writing books about killing Bush, and the media characterizing the hanging of Sarah Palin in effigy as "all in good fun".  You're lucky you missed it all.

Posted by: sherlock at November 22, 2009 09:46 AM (ktKOD)

54
"What happened to respect for the office of The President of the United States?"

I respect the office tremendously. The incumbent, I despise. This is not a contradiction.

For example, if I were to attend the State of the Union address, I would rise to my feet when the President entered the room: that is respect for the office. When the President spoke, I would remain silent and hear him out: that is respect for the office. And if President Obama delivered his usual bolus of bigoted nonsense, I would write a rebuttal that attacked it and him as hard as I could: that is contempt for the incumbent.

Capice?

Posted by: Brown Line at November 22, 2009 09:54 AM (Y0Yhn)

55 That was better than the Bass-O-Matic! Hopefully, these will become more frequent. Too bad they didn't slip in a reference to the CRA as causing the housing crash, that might make more people curious.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 22, 2009 09:55 AM (ZGhSv)

56 Allahpundit has to be a sockpuppet

Posted by: blackrockmarauder at November 22, 2009 09:56 AM (8Ipnv)

57

On this site as well as HA so many revolting comment about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Well, why not? It worked so well for them, it got us a Marxist anti-American elected as president.

Big lies, repetition, and all that...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 22, 2009 09:58 AM (ZGhSv)

58

Did you enjoy that round trip to Aplha Centauri during 2000-2008?  Back here on Earth, it was pretty vicious, with "artists" making movies and writing books about killing Bush, and the media characterizing the hanging of Sarah Palin in effigy as "all in good fun".  You're lucky you missed it all.

I tend to think that "Allahpundit" is a sock. The real signature would have left a link to HA or his mailbox there. Maybe Ace could check that out.

Posted by: Bill H at November 22, 2009 10:00 AM (q8CmE)

59 This skit, and the Palin commercial skit, were hilarious! When even SNL realizes that the dems have lost it, you know they're in trouble. I especially love who Sarah picks as her VP! Awesome! You know libtard heads are exploding when they watch it!

Posted by: RoadRunner at November 22, 2009 10:01 AM (DkCt1)

60 So, when does CNN finish up fact checking this skit?

I'm on it.

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at November 22, 2009 10:04 AM (GF+6V)

61 Anyone have a direct link to the Palin/Beck piece? I'm not finding it.

Posted by: Wise Mongol at November 22, 2009 10:07 AM (eTWhj)

62 61, Try hulu. They have it.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 10:10 AM (Bmk3r)

63 That was better than the Bass-O-Matic!

Few things beat the Bass-O-Matic.  Except for maybe the skits of Ackroyd being the sleezy Christmas toy salesman (bag-o-glass).  Nonetheless, it was a nice little zing on OMarxist.  We can only hope it's the beginning of many more.

Posted by: Twinks at November 22, 2009 10:12 AM (LeFbD)

64 This president is so classy, so eloquent, so intelligent, so perfect...there is nothing to make fun of.

Posted by: Late Night Talk Show Hosts at November 22, 2009 10:13 AM (LeFbD)

65 #58 you are probably correct, but I don't care whether "Allahpundit" is "Allahpundit" or "Gleen McPuppetgreen" - whoever it is, they were either on a long space voyage during the last Presidency, or in a coma.

Posted by: sherlock at November 22, 2009 10:14 AM (ktKOD)

66 Meh, the court jester is permitted one swipe at the Lord. This means little, because once things get heavy ten months from now it will be kiss Obastard ass and mock the opposition day and night. But the pathetic part is the tepid talent and writing. I couldn't even make it more than halfway through... it is really rather dull. If every episode of SNL were like that sketch, I still couldn't be bothered to watch. The idiot playing Obastard can't be bothered to do a decent imitation of Messiah's speech patterns. Paul Shanklin on Rush's show does an imitation of Barry miles ahead of this guy on SNL. And what the hell is up with the political correctness... applied imperfectly? Faux Barry is made up to look sort of "black" but talks with a white bread accent. Which does not in the least capture Pezzydent Pantywaist's diction. Again, see Shanklin, Paul. But while we can put makeup on a whitish looking guy to play Barry, why no Asian makeup on the Premier and his translator? Yet the translator speaks in a faux "Charlie Chan" accent... racism much? SNL is a dead end for talent and comedy. They can't even get their PC sensibilities consistent. And don't get your hopes up about bashing Zero... one sketch out of every two dozen that bash non-liberals makes for little other than a fig leaf. But SNL's worst sin is it's boring. Even when it bashes Barry.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 22, 2009 10:15 AM (I9RPh)

67 Oh please, Allahpundit.

Your embarrassing crush on Megan McCain reminds while I am at HotAir that I have just walked into a high school kid's room, complete with Farrah Fawcett posters on the wall and Playboys hidden under the bed.

Posted by: ghost707 at November 22, 2009 10:16 AM (tb8oY)

68 Except for maybe the skits of Ackroyd being the sleezy Christmas toy salesman (bag-o-glass).  Nonetheless, it was a nice little zing on OMarxist.  We can only hope it's the beginning of many more.

Posted by: Twinks at November 22, 2009 02:12 PM (LeFbD)

"Bag o'glass" was a straight rip-off from Monty Python -  a vastly superior troupe that could actually do great skit comedy.

SNL has always been shit.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 22, 2009 10:17 AM (l7Ql3)

69

That was the first time I saw an impression with the correct number of uh, uh, uhs in it.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at November 22, 2009 10:20 AM (f4sLg)

70 On this site as well as HA so many revolting comment about Obama. I guess the right has no qualms about stooping to the level of the left.

Posted by: Allahpundit at November 22, 2009 12:58 PM (Kv77J)

Look who's talking ... the politically correct slimebag. You are scum. And stupid, too. I understand why you like MegaMac, now. You two are on the same intellectual level.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 22, 2009 10:23 AM (A46hP)

71 If that really is Allah, let me just say his bromance with David Frum is getting a little too serious.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2009 10:24 AM (sYxEE)

72 Posted by: Allahpundit at November 22, 2009 12:58 PM (Kv77J)

Tell us more about how smart you think The Precedent is. You remember how you said that the imbecile "has brains to spare for the job", don't you?

Maybe someday you'll realize that just because someone seems smart to you doesn't mean anything because you are making a relative judgment.

But, please, tell everyone here how smart you think he is ... and then point out one smart thing you've ever seen him do or heard him say (other than winning an election).

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 22, 2009 10:26 AM (A46hP)

73 SNL has always been shit.

+1

It was a phenomenon in the beginning.  I tried to watch a "Best of '70s" and turned it off after about 10 minutes.

Posted by: rockhead at November 22, 2009 10:28 AM (RykTt)

74 Allahpundit? YOU'RE FIRED! Hit the road, fuckwit!

Posted by: Michelle Malkin at November 22, 2009 10:34 AM (86rbG)

75 74, I don't think that's MM. She wouldn't use the word fired and she wouldn't yell.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 10:36 AM (Bmk3r)

76 That's not HA's Allahpundit.

This has happened before and I asked AP if it was him and he said it was not.


Posted by: Mary Beth at November 22, 2009 10:37 AM (JPEqm)

77 No mention of W and the Chinese dude accuses Obama, not the USA.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 10:41 AM (Bmk3r)

78

the final deep bend-over was a nice touch....good shit

now back to the giants....they be winnin!!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at November 22, 2009 10:45 AM (sZDwk)

79 Well, okay, but she is a neighbor of mine.

Posted by: Salem at November 22, 2009 10:46 AM (86rbG)

80 In other news, AZ GOP Primary - McCain 45%, Hayworth 43% !

Hee, hee.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 22, 2009 10:46 AM (DIYmd)

81 It COULD be Allahpundit, certainly talks a bit like him, and Ace has threatened the banhammer on anyone who sockpuppets Allah using the exact name.

If it is Allah, you keep wringing your hands like that you're going to cut off the circulation.

Oh, and those "moderates" you want so much to attract? Like your butt buddy Frum, a "moderate" is a liberal who doesn't foam at the mouth.

They ponder a minute, wring their hands, and then vote for the liberal.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2009 10:49 AM (sYxEE)

82 Stop sockpuppeting Allahpundit, retard, or you'll be banned.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 10:54 AM (jlvw3)

83 It's not.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 10:54 AM (jlvw3)

84 Respect the office of the President?  Really?

Well, the past 8 years have pretty much blown up that concept.  Obama is a sniveling pillow biter and I won't give him an ounce of respect, nor the office while he occupies it.

Posted by: Jack Burton at November 22, 2009 10:55 AM (YxJoH)

85 I've found SNL to have a few brilliant skits, mostly to be meh but watchable, and recently to just be pure garbage....and that's before I allow politics to influence my opinion.

The skit was great for slamming Obama and representing how China's gotta be feeling by now, but it had problems.  Problems that others have already elaborated on, so I'll skip the novel-length post.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 22, 2009 10:56 AM (atxR0)

86 Please stop falling for this, guys. Jeeze. How many times does some obsessed Allah hater have to sockpuppet him?

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 10:57 AM (jlvw3)

87 For once, SNL did its job.  The Palin video was funny, too.  It lampooned left and right.  Well done.

Posted by: Thea at November 22, 2009 10:57 AM (/3dGX)

88 "What happened to respect for the office of The President of The United States?"

No one has thinner skin than a lefty.


Posted by: Thea at November 22, 2009 10:58 AM (/3dGX)

89 It's fun to see a swipe at the Emperor, but don't think this is a crack in the dam. It's merely a chipped corner on a solidly left wing media temple. This isn't some fissure from roof to foundation like in the House of Usher, portending a collapse of the whole edifice. The sad part is the tepid tone of even this barb aimed at Earflaps McBaritone. When this mockery becomes as pointed as "I can see Russia from my house," call me. Suggestion to SNL dimwits: A sketch where Barry passes a typical day in the Oval Office, wearing full Jesus robes. The phone calls and requests from staffers progressively mount in absurdity starting with signatures on minor directives; "My Holy President, with this executive order you just solved GM's financial crisis, and created the electric car!" They become more and more outrageous; "My Holy Lord, your plan to fund Social Security for the next thousand years has already sent the market up 15,000 points!" until a busload of blind and lame children in wheelchairs show up and Barry lays his hands upon them, healing their afflictions. They burst forth in a chorus of holy praise, breakdancing and rapping. Cut to Jeremiah Wright watching this on television at home, muttering how "He's just doing what politicians have to do."

Posted by: George Orwell at November 22, 2009 10:59 AM (I9RPh)

90 Incidentally, the sock-puppeter is, if I'm remembering my fake-emails correctly, a lefty troll. Click on the email and its "dinkyjohnson" who I believe is a lefty troll. Don't get pwned by lefty trolls, guys.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 11:01 AM (jlvw3)

91 The skit started out slowly and built some humor by the end, but the idea that the US is f#cking China is totally incorrect and gives the impression that the US is in charge. The fact is that The Precedent is the one bent over to the Chinese - which SNL would NEVER, EVER, EVER portray.

Look for Taiwan to fall under China's thumb in the near future. China is probably going to require that in order to keep buying debt, and The Precedent will be more than happy to throw Taiwan to the wolves (just as he did with Poland and the Czechs, without even asking for anything from Russia).

It's nice to see these little jabs at the dumbest person, and only traitor, to ever occupy the Oval Office, but this still came nowhere close to the truth of the matter and tried to maintain some veneer of US power when the fact is that The Precedent is doing everything he can to destroy US power and make a joke of our nation as he works to kill it from the inside.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 22, 2009 11:02 AM (A46hP)

92 82 Stop sockpuppeting Allahpundit, retard, or you'll be banned.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 02:54 PM (jlvw3)

You tell'em Ace. I hate sock puppeters. Hate them. Hate them.

Posted by: Glenn Greenwald at November 22, 2009 11:04 AM (bgcml)

93

You tell'em Ace. I hate sock puppeters. Hate them. Hate them.

Posted by: Glenn Greenwald at November 22, 2009 03:04 PM (bgcml)

That's right. You tell Glenn. I hate them too!

Posted by: Joe Smith (certainly not Glenn Greenwald) at November 22, 2009 11:05 AM (bgcml)

94 When Ackroyd as Carter did that "Preparation I" speech, it was the beginning of the end for Jimmah

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2009 11:05 AM (sYxEE)

95 I hate sockpuppets too, especially when I'm trying to comment here and Rahm IM's me right in the middle of it screaming "get it right, you fucking dike!"

Posted by: Rachel "Chachi" Maddow at November 22, 2009 11:09 AM (sYxEE)

96 You can't control the effect of humor and satire. The chicken is out of the barn and it ain't a virgin.

Posted by: eman at November 22, 2009 11:10 AM (Bmk3r)

97
hmmmmm, it seems the audience did not like that skit one bit


Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 22, 2009 11:11 AM (JY1gZ)

98 86 Please stop falling for this, guys.

Jeeze. How many times does some obsessed Allah hater have to sockpuppet him? Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 02:57 PM

I gotta say this ace, the sock did a pretty credible imitation of AP.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2009 11:12 AM (sYxEE)

99

Don't get pwned by lefty trolls, guys.

Far too many of the current posters can't tell the difference, unfortunately.

Posted by: barbelle at November 22, 2009 11:18 AM (qF8q3)

100 "The bloom is certainly off Obama's onion"

Aw, c'mon!  Everybody knows that Obama doesn't have any onions!

Posted by: stuiec at November 22, 2009 11:20 AM (Ate22)

101

You tell'em Ace. I hate sock puppeters. Hate them. Hate them.

You are very correct, sir.

Posted by: Glenno Greenwaldo of, um, Brazil, er, Brasil at November 22, 2009 11:20 AM (2qU2d)

102 It could easily be AP, the only problem with the credibility of the sock puppet was his failure to bash Beck, Palin and Jesus at the same time.

Posted by: Dagny at November 22, 2009 11:22 AM (8ud7Q)

103

I hate sockpuppets too

Preach it, sister.

Posted by: rachel maddow's *other* middle finger at November 22, 2009 11:22 AM (2qU2d)

104 90 Incidentally, the sock-puppeter is, if I'm remembering my fake-emails correctly, a lefty troll.

Click on the email and its "dinkyjohnson" who I believe is a lefty troll.

Don't get pwned by lefty trolls, guys.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 03:01 PM (jlvw3)

You are a racist's racist Ace, consider yourself "exposed", you hater! No wonder you hang out with Glen Beck and Hermann Göring.

Posted by: Charles Jhonson at November 22, 2009 11:27 AM (H7Rlw)

105 Hmmmmm

Posted by: maddow's middle finger at November 22, 2009 11:29 AM (UX0Ue)

106 You are worse that Jesus, Ace!

Posted by: Charles Jhonson at November 22, 2009 11:32 AM (H7Rlw)

107 Pfft. Who cares if Allahpundit is an atheist. I'm an atheist and I still recognize that he's a complete dickhole who was still sucking up to Charles Johnson right before Killgore did the drive-by of Hot Air. Must be contagious.

Posted by: Salem at November 22, 2009 11:36 AM (86rbG)

108 >>>I gotta say this ace, the sock did a pretty credible imitation of AP. He didn't, he really didn't. A lot of you guys are very skeptical of stuff from the media or the left. But then when you get "too good to be true" stuff, you turn off your sketpicism. You want to believe. You are falling for blatant parodies of Allahpundt because you want to believe that he believes such nonsense, and is furthermore dumb enough to slip up and admit it. In fact, he doesn't believe crap like that, and even if he did, he'd be smart enough not to say so. Not like this! Transparent lefty troll baiting. In fact, while Allah used to post here, he almost always stuck around to *actually argue,* not engage in drive-by swipes that can only hurt his site at Hot Air. Furthermore, because he lives and breathes politics, he tended to comment on only one subject: the eternal war between the sexes. Like many people who do politics all day, when he's off the clock, he wants to unwind about another subject. Allah has a huge blog, the biggest on the right. I assure you that if he's prepared to make some throat-slitting disclosures about his avid love of Obama and the left generally, he will do so at the forum he runs, not in a comment (with email listed as "dinkyjohnson") on my website.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 11:49 AM (jlvw3)

109 Or he will say so on Twitter, which he posts on all the time.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 11:50 AM (jlvw3)

110 Yep. Definitely contagious.

Posted by: Salem at November 22, 2009 11:56 AM (86rbG)

111 90 Incidentally, the sock-puppeter is, if I'm remembering my fake-emails correctly, a lefty troll.

Click on the email and its "dinkyjohnson" who I believe is a lefty troll.

Don't get pwned by lefty trolls, guys.
--------------------------------------------------------------

A point to ponder is maybe his "johnson is dinky".

Just food for thought.


Posted by: killerdog0 at November 22, 2009 11:58 AM (m858i)

112 You are falling for blatant parodies of Allahpundt because you want to believe that he believes such nonsense, and is furthermore dumb enough to slip up and admit it.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 03:49 PM (jlvw3)

Allah most certainly does believe that The Precedent is a smart guy - against every single bit of evidence available. He certainly did say that the imbecile "has more than enough brains for the job" - that was part of a pre-election post in which allah was explaining why felt more comfortable with the ineligible Indonesian with an IQ of 73 in the White House than with Palin as VP (another allahpundit high point). Then, after all of the obvious idiocy that The Precedent has done, allah went on to defend the idea that The Precedent is a smart guy (citing the fact that he won the election as some sort of proof), as he was arguing that the Olympics had to be in the bag or else the brilliant Precedent would not have scheduled the Copenhagen trip. That response of allah's was to a post of mine where I berated allah for not understanding the stupidity and motivations of The Precedent and not understanding why he scheduled Copenhagen without anything being in the bag (as his intention was merely to lower the dignity of the office and to do anything he could that was against American tradition). We all know how that turned out.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 22, 2009 11:59 AM (A46hP)

113

Allah has a huge blog, the biggest on the right.

I thought it was Michelle Malkin's doing.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 22, 2009 12:00 PM (2qU2d)

114 Allah has a huge blog, the biggest on the right. I assure you that if he's prepared to make some throat-slitting disclosures about his avid love of Obama and the left generally, he will do so at the forum he runs, not in a comment (with email listed as "dinkyjohnson") on my website.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 03:49 PM (jlvw3)

Isn't that like saying Maureen Dowd is the 'biggest columnist on the right'? If you say that isn't Allah, then I'm sure you are correct Ace, and I'm also sure he's not using the e-mail of "dinkyjohnson" either. However, I'm also not seeing that much of a functional difference between his views and those of Maureen Dowd's either. In fact Hot Air is linking to the Dowdster right now, and not out of any sense or comedic irony, but because he agrees with her.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 22, 2009 12:04 PM (H7Rlw)

115 doesn't anyone think it's delicious ironic that a communist country invests her profits in a capitalist country and then losing it all because the capitalist country elects a socialist regime who wants to try socialism/communism the right way.

Posted by: canuk at November 22, 2009 12:05 PM (LN9Ve)

116 When you bend over and grab your ankles just what else do you expect me to do? I can't help myself...

Posted by: Barak Obama at November 22, 2009 12:07 PM (UNDmA)

117

Is Hot Air seriously that big?  I've found it abysmally dull the handful of times I've been there following the links from this site.  Ed Morrissey is the only decent writer; beyond that the talent on display is from uploading video, a skill approximately on the same level as your average YouTuber.

I read Malkin's blog frequently, though, along with this one and a few others.

Posted by: barbelle at November 22, 2009 12:15 PM (qF8q3)

118 Best line:  "I have read that you purchased many clunkers with our money."

Posted by: Marty at November 22, 2009 12:27 PM (zvTMA)

119 It's interesting how reasonable China is looking lately compared to just six or seven years ago. Right after 911 it crossed my mind that they could have been involved. It wasn't such an absurd notion at the time, I think. Do we not still regard them as murderous thugs now that they are our landlords? Strange times.

The O-Bomber still looks ridiculous chiding them about human rights, but that's more because the direction he's going hints at the same sort of brutal oppression as the Chinese themselves are accustomed to.

Posted by: Salem at November 22, 2009 12:40 PM (86rbG)

120 # 118
Is Hot Air seriously that big?  I've found it abysmally dull the handful of times I've been there following the links from this site.  Ed Morrissey is the only decent writer; beyond that the talent on display is from uploading video, a skill approximately on the same level as your average YouTuber.

Go read Doctor Zero in the Green Room section of HA. One of the best essayists I've read outside of ace's site.

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 22, 2009 12:42 PM (pRKLf)

121 Jim in San Diego - I'm sorry, but just because AP's not parroting the social-con line all the time doesn't put HA out of the conservative tent.


Posted by: mrkwong at November 22, 2009 12:42 PM (G8Eo0)

122 122 Jim in San Diego - I'm sorry, but just because AP's not parroting the social-con line all the time doesn't put HA out of the conservative tent.


Posted by: mrkwong at November 22, 2009 04:42 PM (G8Eo0)

Does AP have ANY social-con beliefs? If he doesn't, then I'd say, by definition, he's not a conservative, and hence he's "not in the tent" at all. It's not "ideological purity", but simply a question of correct definition.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 22, 2009 12:49 PM (H7Rlw)

123

What happened to respect for the office of The President of The United States?

Some of us would like to ask Barack Obama the same thing.

Posted by: malclave at November 22, 2009 12:57 PM (/7x26)

124 >>>In fact Hot Air is linking to the Dowdster right now, and not out of any sense or comedic irony, but because he agrees with her. Good Lord. He's linking it because she's actually suggesting that Lord God Obama might have something to learn from Sarah Palin. He is linking it for the same reason other people have sent it to me -- because it shows how much the bloom is off the Obama Rose. Seriously, Christmas! This seemed sort of obvious. It seems you just want to believe whatever nonsense about him.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 01:10 PM (jlvw3)

125 Um................what makes y'all think that's actually "AP", as opposed to, you know, some dumbass troll?

Posted by: Techie at November 22, 2009 01:13 PM (cxW4X)

126 He doesn't "agree" with any of the particulars. He's linking it because, as they say, if you've lost Maureen Dowd, you've lost the country. She's been in the bag for him. The particulars of the criticism are irrelevant and silly (it's Dowd after all). What is important is the criticism itself, and that the left is finally acknowledging that Obama's in trouble. Again: Obviously, this is the purpose of linking the Vapid Vamp.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 01:13 PM (jlvw3)

127
that's not allahpundit, boy

Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:18 PM (tMSKg)

128
did anyone else get the sense the audience, by and large, did not find that skit amusing?

they laughed a little, but the big laughs came with the silly-slapstick-physical humor, e.g., yelling "doing sex with me," and bending over. But the audience was very quiet for most of the skit with only a few tepid laughs from a handful of people.

If it was Sarah Palin they were doing, the audience would be howling everytime Tina Fey made a funny face, just like how Jon Stewart's audience laughs when he mugs for the camera while doing a hit-piece on a Republican.

Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:23 PM (tMSKg)

129 Allah may be a lot of things, but he's not a Dowd enthusiast. He thinks she a nitwit.

Posted by: Hu Jintao at November 22, 2009 01:23 PM (muUqs)

130

If this is flattery from MoDo then I'd hate to see her vitriol.

"He struggles to transcend identity politics while she wallows in them. As he builds an emotional moat around himself, she exuberantly pushes whatever she has, warts and all — the good looks, the tabloid-perfect family, the Alaska quirkiness, the kids with the weird names."

"Just like the disastrous and anti-intellectual W., this Visceral One never doubts herself. The Cerebral One welcomes doubt."

Now let's get onto Matt Taibbi, I'm sure you know who he is, AP links to him as well. Yeah, he's wondering why Obma can't be just like Palin too!

"Sarah PalinÂ’s battlefield, on the other hand, is whatever is happening five feet in front of her face. She is building a political career around the little interpersonal wars in the immediate airspace surrounding her sawdust-filled head. And in the process she connects with pissed-off, frightened, put-upon America on a plane thatÂ’s far more elemental than the mega-ditto schtick."

Yeah, that's all AP is about, flattering Palin! How could I be so blind?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 22, 2009 01:24 PM (H7Rlw)

131 good god, do you read? I said the point is not the particulars of the criticism, but the fact she is criticizing her god at all. I give up.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 01:27 PM (jlvw3)

132 it wasn't linked for the flattery of Palin. It was linked for the criticism of Obama.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 01:29 PM (jlvw3)

133
they don't call 'em morons for nothin', you know

I get called a concern troll for pointing out the possible pluses for the GOP if ObamaCare gets passed.

Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:32 PM (tMSKg)

134

 

133 it wasn't linked for the flattery of Palin. It was linked for the criticism of Obama.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 05:29 PM (jlvw3)

I heartily disagree Ace. Dowd, wants a minor PR correction from 'Teh Won' by saying: hey, look at that idot Palin, she can do good PR, why not you President Obama?

I believe that AP thinks the same thing, especially considering his other expressed thoughts.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 22, 2009 01:34 PM (H7Rlw)

135 I get called a concern troll for pointing out the possible pluses for the GOP if ObamaCare gets passed.

I get called a moderate for arguing you can't elect a pro-life NRA member for statewide office in New York.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 22, 2009 01:35 PM (muUqs)

136
I think what Ace is trying to say (but I'll say it better, boy) is that Dowd's rant was linked because it shows the natives are getting restless.

There's trouble in paradise, and Obama's supporters in the media are getting frustrated...with Obama.

Yeah, the frustration and criticism is couched in snark about Palin and Bush, but only thinly. Dowd's compliments of Obama were teetering on the back-handed variety.

Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:36 PM (tMSKg)

137 Interesting aside-
No attempt to make the character look Chinese. So "ing twang doing ding" but dressing like the Chinese premier and darkening the actors hair, THAT would have been racist.

Strange world we live in.

Posted by: kidney at November 22, 2009 01:38 PM (NylMi)

138 It was linked for the criticism of Obama.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 05:29 PM (jlvw3)

The excerpt posted was exactly this:

Why canÂ’t our brilliant president be more like that vivacious Alaskan yokel? [allah's headline summation/comment]

Palin can be stupefyingly simplistic, but she seems dynamic. Obama is impressively complex but he seems static.

She nurtures her grass roots while he neglects his.

He struggles to transcend identity politics while she wallows in them. As he builds an emotional moat around himself, she exuberantly pushes whatever she has, warts and all — the good looks, the tabloid-perfect family, the Alaska quirkiness, the kids with the weird names.

Just like the disastrous and anti-intellectual W., this Visceral One never doubts herself. The Cerebral One welcomes doubt.

If that is supposed to highlight criticism of The Precedent, I'd love to get criticism like that. Even allah says it in the headline, MoDo is saying that The Precedent is too smart for his own good and needs to be dumber and cruder ... like Palin. (Of course, AP has this same view of the two, as he has posted about).

The fact of the matter is that The Precedent is near-retarded and couldn't match Palin in any true competition. I'd rather be in a nation Palin headed, going toe-to-toe with a nation headed by the Indonesian imbecile, any day of the week.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at November 22, 2009 01:39 PM (A46hP)

139
I get called a moderate for arguing you can't elect a pro-life NRA member for statewide office in New York.

Well, Dr Rino, I disagree. I think any Republican who can articulate the conservative ideology regarding freedom, taxes, and the role of public service is a viable candidate in any state.

Our biggest problem is that we inarticulate pussies who can't handle questions about abortion, guns, and government waste.

Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:41 PM (tMSKg)

140 Well, Dr Rino, I disagree. I think any Republican who can articulate the conservative ideology regarding freedom, taxes, and the role of public service is a viable candidate in any state.

You're delusional.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 22, 2009 01:45 PM (muUqs)

141
squish!

Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:46 PM (tMSKg)

142
heh

Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:46 PM (tMSKg)

143
It's too bad Allah ruined this thread.


Posted by: a.k.a. at November 22, 2009 01:58 PM (tMSKg)

144

Great piece, I can hardly believe it took NBC to do the first actual hard-hitting Obama skit.  Couple of observations though...

So it took a solid year from the election to when SNL does an all-out satire of Obama.  Did they actually mark this on their calendar and say, "OK, no jokes about Obama for the first year"?

I notice that the "Chinese" president and his interpreter look about as Asian as Wilford Brimley.  A sign of the hyper-sensitive times, they know they can't do the eye-tape thing or the racism victicrats will do a Michael Richards on them.

Posted by: Crusty at November 22, 2009 02:08 PM (qzgbP)

145 I get called a moderate for arguing you can't elect a pro-life NRA member for statewide office in New York.

Disagree with this?

You're delusional.

So, explain to me how the governor of Rhode Island, which politically isn't much different from New York, being a very solid conservative - AND reelected - while RINO's in the very same election got beaten hard squares with your view of the world.

Qwinn


Posted by: Qwinn at November 22, 2009 02:18 PM (SxA2Q)

146 132 good god, do you read? I said the point is not the particulars of the criticism, but the fact she is criticizing her god at all.

I give up.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 05:27 PM (jlvw3)

I WIN!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 22, 2009 02:25 PM (H7Rlw)

147

SNL should've been doing skits like this for the last 9 months - but their politics are too stupidly hyperpartisan.  The ludicriousness of Obama's economic policies (i.e. the target of this skit) have been raked by conservative critics nonstop - but have never been deemed worthy of ridicule until now...why? Because conservative American critics are the enemy, whereas the friggin' Chinese are admired (see: Tom Friedman), and therefore OK to depict mocking The One. 

Yeah it's a funny skit, I like it. But don't kid yourselves that it means SNL and other left-wing media are rushing to skewer Obama. In a domestic context, especially in and around election time, they'll rally round their savior same as always.

Posted by: Gracchus at November 22, 2009 02:31 PM (6AL46)

148 109 Or he will say so on Twitter, which he posts trashes HA readers, bashes real conservatives, and sends love notes to David Frum and Meggie Mac all the time.

Posted by: ace at November 22, 2009 03:50 PM

FIFY

Posted by: kbdabear at November 22, 2009 02:34 PM (sYxEE)

149 Rhode Island has elected 32 republican governors in it's history versus 21 Democrats.That's more than Texas. New York hasn't elected any social cons that I know of. What about Massachusetts? Any chance there? Fiscal conservatives definitely have a chance almost anywhere. Social cons have a much harder time in certain states, especially when you factor in the media. It's science. I'd like to take back at least one House of Congress so we can get some sweet investigations started. There's plenty to investigate already.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 22, 2009 02:35 PM (muUqs)

150 You can tell it's a joke, because it was another world leader bowing to Obama.

Posted by: Tattoo DePlane at November 22, 2009 02:58 PM (VLYnh)

151 Respect for the office?....I think that pretty much washed away with the jizz on the blue dress.

Posted by: CharlieDontSurf at November 22, 2009 03:03 PM (0Xpf6)

152 Hardly anyone (not any numbers to be concerned with) watches SNL anymore. Their ratings are in the trash just like the rest of NBC and the letter channels. The only audience they have is for their weird shows that idiots only watch, well except for the new "V" which is amazingly not on SyFy.

This whole deal (and thread) reminds me of High School where a few of the "in crowd" start trash about their leader (the really kool kid who can do no wrong, farts don't stink and has it all and looks down on everybody else and everybody would crawl through sewage to kiss their feet) and the rest of the wannabes' and other interested kids think that the really kool kid is gonna fall....

Never fracking going to happen, not even in his/her senior year.

It's just normal bullshit that happens every year in every high school since dawn of same. Just like with every President that the U.S. has ever had. Obama is not the one to worry about. He is just a fracking mouthpiece and pretty piece of shit that the real (evil motherfrakers) movers and shakers in this world picked and have been preening and shaping for the last few years. He is just a PR vehicle for them to put in place their plans for not only the U.S. but for the world.

They are the dangerous ones, they are the ones to worry about.

There are really evil terrible people at work here guys and girls and they are not going to be stopped without violence. They are not going to allow free and honest elections anymore and will enact laws and regulations that will hobble and surpress every American and others in this ol' world. This economic crisis was planned and is not anywhere over.

You had better start preparing for really hard and bad times.

Papa Ray
Central (used to be West) Texas

Posted by: Papa Ray at November 22, 2009 03:05 PM (JpVJn)

153 That's the funniest opening for SNL I've seen in ages, because I don't watch SNL, I may have to tune in again if they keep this up. They have a target rich environment to pick from.

BTW... Papa Ray, you may not get out much over that way but there seems to have been a <b>massive</b> run on firearms and ammo since 'The Won' was elected...

Posted by: Gmac at November 22, 2009 03:22 PM (NP9ID)

154 Why the Chinese president isn't played by an Asian:
Fred Armisen (the man playing Obama) is the only Asian member of the cast. So, unless he's going to run back-&-forth between lecterns...

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 22, 2009 03:29 PM (zmiSr)

155 For the next Tea Party march my sign will read "Will you kiss me?"

Posted by: PJ at November 22, 2009 03:58 PM (Qpxxz)

156 12. When you think about it, Obama is no better then those house flippers that lied to secure a loan they couldn't pay back and are now demanding a bailout... Posted by: 18-1 at November 22, 2009 12:56 PM Because, he sorta was one? http://www.zerohedge.com/article/was-obama-subprime-borrower

Posted by: BuddyPC at November 22, 2009 04:08 PM (nSkOL)

157 I like the way that idiotito liberal tool posted that only "idiots think we are better ruled than (Communist!) China!" Need I list all the different ways that is one of the most effed up sentences ever written in the English language? I mean, Dude: they sell executed dissidents' organs on the black market.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 22, 2009 04:10 PM (QECjC)

Posted by: David Democrat Broder at November 22, 2009 04:31 PM (gSxol)

159 Hu Jintao tlansrated to Engrish means "Hu's yer Daddy!!?"

Posted by: Hu Jintao at November 22, 2009 05:10 PM (gSxol)

160 Rhode Island has elected 32 republican governors in it's history versus 21 Democrats.

And NY has had Republican governors 40 out of the 62 years since World War II.  So?

Look, we've tried your "RINO's can't win anywhere in the northeast" for years.  RINO's are almost all that ever even get a chance.  And what do we have to show for it?  Nothing.  But the few times solid conservatives actually get a -chance-, like in RI, they win spectacularly, among the exact same voting pool in the exact same year that threw out all their RINO's.

Why is this?  Because RINO's have no strong support from anyone.  Who the hell gets excited about a RINO?  Anywhere?  No one does.  If you're going to get excited about a RINO, the Democrat is going to excite you a lot more.  A solid conservative, on the other hand, will get very excited support anywhere, and that includes the northeast.  That means funding, and grassroots campaign support, and -someone- in the existent universe that will say nice things about the guy during Thanksgiving dinner to counter the media's incessant "all Republicans, including RINOs, are evil incarnate" memes.

And if you think that not only has no value, if you think that isn't -the sum total of the political game-, then you are the delusional one.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at November 22, 2009 05:10 PM (SxA2Q)

161

I get called a concern troll for pointing out the possible pluses for the GOP if ObamaCare gets passed.

I get called a moderate for arguing you can't elect a pro-life NRA member for statewide office in New York.

LOL.  This is what I was talking about in post 99.  You fall out of line around here just a touch, you're a troll/sock puppet/moby/moderate.  It's just sad how so many posters are petrified of having their views challenged by their own side.

Go read Doctor Zero in the Green Room section of HA. One of the best essayists I've read outside of ace's site.

Thanks for the recommendation and I'll consider it, but I'm not particularly interested in giving HA traffic.

Posted by: barbelle at November 22, 2009 05:29 PM (qF8q3)

162

Qwinn, I'm with you.  People have forgotten how conservatives will vote in droves for an actual conservative; rather, they've become obsessed with pandering to the Middle as if that must be done to win an election.

Here's my question to you, and I just want to know your position on this:

If your choice is between a RINO and a democrat, what do you do?  Vote for the lesser of evils, go third party, or not vote at all?

Posted by: barbelle at November 22, 2009 05:35 PM (qF8q3)

163 I think it was funny and accurate up until the last joke.  The slam on Michelle my Belle will get NBC ripped by the Obamunist administration and give NBC the cover it needs to stop parodying Obam-ass

Posted by: Timmy Taylor at November 22, 2009 05:43 PM (1kwr2)

164 "If your choice is between a RINO and a democrat, what do you do?  Vote for the lesser of evils, go third party, or not vote at all?"

Depends on how bad the RINO is.  If I think he is so deeply liberal that things will go to hell under his watch and the only thing his election will do is get conservatives blamed for the mess, then I don't vote. 

I would vote 3rd party if there were any viable (as in >1%) ones here in NJ, but there aren't.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at November 22, 2009 06:12 PM (SxA2Q)

165

I just read all 165 comments straight through, and I'm simply amazed at what a clusterfuck this turned into.  All because some lefty dickhead tripped the "I hate AP" trigger in some of you guys.

Here's what I think.  AP can be pretty squishy.  I've learned to live with that.  If I see something he's got up that looks RINOish, I DON'T READ IT.

Let's keep our heads in the game.  What matters is that we've got a closet commie and the foul bastards surrounding him to stop.  There are elections and arguments to win.  Letting this stupid troll start you ravening for AP's blood does not advance the cause.

And the poster who recommended Doc Zero was absolutely dead-on.  Whoever DZ is, I'd like to shake his/her hand.

Posted by: rickinstl at November 22, 2009 06:33 PM (SawXY)

166 154 "BTW... Papa Ray, you may not get out much over that way but there seems to have been a <b>massive</b> run on firearms and ammo since 'The Won' was elected..."

Your right, we don't leave the State of Texas unless absolutely necessary. But where do you think most of those firearms and ammo have wound up?

Three guesses and the first two don't count.

Don't mess with Texas

Papa Ray

Posted by: Papa Ray at November 22, 2009 06:40 PM (JpVJn)

167 The funniest stuff SNL ever did was the Sean Connery Jeopardy bits. Youtube and enjoy the laughs. Outstanding. This SNL bit was terrific. Obama has had his way with us Americans. We are Hu Jintao. Spending our money on clunkers, indeed. Just how far would any real life borrower get if they went to the bank and said I want a loan so I can buy working cars and ruin them. And if a lot of people do it, then we'll do it even bigger. Obama's behavior is not politics. It's not even properly called socialism. It is amoral.

Posted by: Dane Skold at November 22, 2009 07:20 PM (JPKWk)

168 Which way did it go George?

Posted by: Allah Pund It In My Ass at November 22, 2009 07:45 PM (pM4E5)

169 Jim in San Diego - I have damn few social-con beliefs. 

I'm pro-choice, or at least states-rights on on abortion, because I believe permitting it at least through the first trimester is a lesser evil than the extension of Federal authority necessary to prevent it.  Further, as a practical matter this is a losing issue electorally in much of the West and Northeast.  Don't drop it from the platform, just keep it on page two or three.

I'm neutral on gay marriage, I don't think it'll destroy the country, though I'd rather see it called something other than 'marriage'. 

I'm very opposed to open-borders but see no rational way to throw out every illegal who's already here and integrated into the economy and culture. 

Does that evict me from the conservative tent?

I'm even halfway sympathetic to what the Democrats are trying to do on healthcare; if we were just looking for rational ways to separate insurance coverage from employment and ensure affordable coverage for the 'uninsurable' I'd be on board, but the Dems are trying to create entire huge new bureaucracies for the unions to staff which is patently unacceptable. 

On the other side, climate alarmism is an absolute litmus-test issue for me, I absolutely will not support any candidate who's a committed AGW believer. 

I have in thirty years voted for a Democrat for partisan office exactly once, to my recollection.  Jimmy Carter, Jerry Brown, and Ronald Reagan made me a Republican.

I'm a pretty staunch supply-sider; and a believer in a forceful foreign policy; the two rational things Bush 43 ever did were the tax cuts and the Afghanistan response after 9/11.  I believe in free trade is not an industrial policy but that it's a rational cornerstone for one. 

Don't try to sell me the "you can't be a conservative unless you're a social con" crap. 

Posted by: mrkwong at November 22, 2009 09:08 PM (G8Eo0)

170 Dane Skold - the only word for the current administration is 'weak'. 

On foreign relations it's a very good thing that they've been a bunch of bumblers because if they'd competently executed the direction they're trying to go it'd have been an unmitigated disaster for this country.   Pretty much everyone has figured out that they can kick us around but at least the scale of threat is more modest than in 1961 or 1976.

On domestic policy the story's about the same, maybe worse because in some areas - EPA's endangerment finding regarding CO2 - the administration has the ability to do real damage to our future without Congressional help. 

On the big-ticket items the administration has let Pelosi and Reid run wild, the 'stimulus' will be a load of rocks on our back for a decade and that's an optimistic assessment, hopefully Waxman-and-Markey-and-Boxer-and-Kerry is dead for the foreseeable future, if a 2000-page healthcare bill passes it will be a mess even IF the 'public option' is stripped.  We need healthcare reform, but we need 20 or 200 pages, not 2000.


Posted by: mrkwong at November 22, 2009 09:38 PM (G8Eo0)

171 I guess this means Obaminable isn't the Sacred Steer any more.

And that the writers of SNL just might have something in their trousers besides their dicks.

Posted by: Beverly at November 22, 2009 10:10 PM (Nzdci)

172 Notice, though, that they didn't have the balls to make the "Chinese" president look, er, Chinese.

What's wrong with slanted eyes, boyz?

Posted by: Beverly at November 22, 2009 10:14 PM (Nzdci)

173

Heh.  That's the funniest SNL skit I've seen since Eddy Murphy departed.  Thanks for making it available.

Furthermore, I don't know about Ed Hardy belts but his sunglasses are terrific. 

Posted by: iowavette at November 23, 2009 10:12 AM (0JTac)

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#108 Ace:  You are correct.  If Allah was to do this he would be a bit more slick, and do it in a post at HA in order to drive traffic there.  And since he has such a good blog-gig there, why would he ruin it?

Sock-puppeting (other than as an obvious joke) is a Moby tactic.

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