1

My goodness.  Look at the last graph on the page.  It looks as though the temperature changes are almost cyclical!

Shocking.

2 Hide that. My wife is about to see it.

Huge.

Quickly.

3 I printed this out earlier today as it is a great set of graphs. They show that today's temperatures and even higher are not the norm and we really are fortunate that we aren't living in an igloo. Warm is good and warmer is better I say. 

4 That one doesn't show the temperature past 1900 though.

Someone in the comments posted a better version.

5

Seriously. CLICK THE LINK.

Amazing stuff, thanks purple avenger. BTW, did you notice it looks like we're about 15% into a new ice age, one that is about to send temperatures plunging??

6 How in the hell amd I gonna be able to keep up? 

7 Whenever a greenie says that the earth is getting warmer, I ask what the 'normal' temperature of the earth is.  I get crickets.

8 Perspective depends on the baseline. The fact that they are measuring climate with too short of a ruler is a powerful argument.

9 Ow! Not again!

10 Damn Vikings have to ruin everything for us...

11
WE'RE ALL GONNA FREEZE TO DEATH!!!!111111!

12 what the 'normal' temperature of the earth is.

I know my crib in south Florida is going to be worth a mint soon ;->

13

Wow!  This blows right past the hockey team and the CRU idiots.  It doesn't even matter that they've been lying their asses off, (not in climate terms, although they should still all be ass-raped with a fencepost just for being the dickbags they are), because the scale is so wrong.  In the long view, their puny .5 deg. C or whatever warming means almost nothing.  In fact, we should be grateful for it, assuming that it is really happening. 

We should all be wearing shirts with these graphs on them because this is the kind of thing that anyone can see and understand.

14

We told you!  We told you!!!  A new Ice Age issa comin'!

But did you listen to us?  Nooooooo....  You all had to rush to your new BFF, Global Warming, as the latest thing taht's gonna kill us all.

But we told you, didn't we? 

15 I would like to see the graph zoomed at the start of the last plung(to the left of -100,000) and see if it looks anything like third graph that shows the decline.

16

I'm gonna invest in some of them snow machines Palin's always talkin bout!

 

17 hey! How will this help us?

18 The funny part is that the global warming nuts LOVE the Vostok data. Once they finally get distracted from the CO2, which was shown to lag temps in the data, they are left with an ugly look at the temps and where we are. Thanks, PA, for posting this. Vostok is always good and makes the situation much clearer. I'm pretty sure that the Vostok data was a good part of Al's movie.

19
"The North Polar ice cap is melting before our very eyes. It's been the size of the continental United States for most of the last three million years and now, suddenly, 40 percent of it's gone, and the rest of it is expected to disappear within five, 10, 15 years"

Serious question: Is any part of this accurate?

20 Hey polar bears see you soon.

21 hey! How will this help us?

Rich new ummm..."feeding grounds" in the NYC and D.C. areas if you're willing to adjust your diet somewhat.

22 I'm no doctor, but I'd say that guy's having a heart attack.

23 The truly infuriating part of this whole hoax is that these Shady-Oak-Bombers knew about these ice core data and just summarily ignored them. This is fraud in the truest sense of the word and should be actionable on the criminal level.

IOW, keel-haul da bums.

24
hey! How will this help us?

You get to hunt more seals......  In Cuba

25 the prof @ 19
Go to WUWT and scroll down. On the right there is a graph that looks like a sine wave. It is a graph of average sea ice and goes back to 2002. As you can see the amount of ice has not changed all that much and we are actually right about average right now.

26

was this graph drawn with the same crayons that Gallup uses?

27 Its interesting that the whole "development of civilization" thing kinda happened during a time when it was generally warmer than today by quite a bit.

Maybe Planet Of The Apes was in fact a documentary sent back from the future?

28 The Vostok core makes Baja real estate look pretty good.

29

Ice age a comin'.  Time to stock up on fur coats, fur hats, fur mittens.....

Oh wait, then we'll piss peta off.

 

30 Years ago, 1999 in fact, I worked at Bryn Mawr College and had to do some Q&D html for an emeritus paper they wanted online pronto (don't judge me too harshly on the html, my major was art history.)

It was called "Global Warming...Compared to What?"  As the geologist put it, we've been warming for 1800 centuries so far.  Why all the drama now?

Long story short:  Scientists have ALWAYS known that the hockey stick was all a matter of BS perspective. 

Anyway here it is:
http://www.brynmawr.edu/emeritus/gather/Platt/platt_1.html

31 Truly, we are in more danger from ice ages than global warming. The data shows they come on fast, and most of us will starve to death. Many of us need to starve to death, or at least those that believe in global warming. God loves a hongry libtard.

32

It's a shame I'm not going to live another 5,000 years.  I'd love to corner the livin' shit out of the wool coat/snow-shoe/fire wood/hand-warmer/long-underwear markets. 

Those ads for Costa Rican property are looking mighty fine, right about now.

33
thanks, RobD.

So Algore's claim of a 40% reduction is complete bullshit. Where does he get this figure?

34 hey! How will this help us?

HEY! Back off you cracker bears.  We're helping my children first.

35

With an ice age on its way, the smart money is investing heavily in quality lace wigs.

36 Hey, how about like they did in the middle ages, during the little ice age; we should start burning climate scientist like they burnt witches?  Same thing, right?

37 Another observation.  The thing that really convinced me that AGW was bunk was the tree pollen data from the sediment of deep lakes in Europe.  The boundary between cold-weather conifers and temperate deciduous hardwoods has swept across Europe four times in the last 2000 yrs.

During the MWP there were large oak forests in Scandanavia!!   They aren't there now.

38 The North Polar ice cap is melting before our very eyes

Today's Arctic Satellite Image
Thirty day Arctic Satellite Images slide show

39

"So Algore's claim of a 40% reduction is complete bullshit. Where does he get this figure?"  out of his ass?

 

40 Fox News Alert: Gunfight in the middle of Time Square.  You folks in NYC be careful out there.

41

Pictures? you want PICTURES?

 

http://tinyurl.com/ykhp4p6

42 Anyone else bothered by that rather quick drop in temp to kick off the new ice age?

43 The North Polar ice cap is melting before our very eyes

Yawn.  BTDT 100 years ago too.

44 Gunfight in the middle of Time Square.

Food riots due to the glaciers.

45 This COpenhagen confab is good for couple-a 1000 millibears or about the same as spotted-OwlGore in a couple of years.

46
Any chance Coop-in-HAAA-gen will hit sub-zero temps really, really rapidly?  Like, now?

47 Any of you morons get too cold, come to Savannah.  I've got a nice guest suite I'll rent out (you may have to wrestle D'oh Boy for it when he graduates from boot camp, but he'll just be around a few days).  Or you can house-sit while we go looking for warmer quarters in, oh, Costa Rica.

48 Definition of millibear  http://tinyurl.com/yj6hns4

49 Copenhagen weather is predicted to deteriorate next week dropping below freezing with snow.

50 Global warming is real and it WILL happen --- in the spring.

51 Could we please, pretty please have that icing scene from Day After Tomorrow in Hopenhagen?  I'm picturing all the attendees racing for their limos and private jets just freezing in mid-run.  Hilarity would ensue.

52

That was a very nice article, PA. 

The most interesting thing to me is the seventh chart.  The glacials and interglacials.  Note the colder, colder, colder, SNAP; colder, colder, colder, SNAP, etc.  Interesting.  AGW medicine men have narrowed the signal-to-noise ratio w/r/t interesting and useful topics like "triggers" or "climate triggers," but there's evidence of a trigger event right there.  Something happens after lengthy, growing glacial periods that switches the heat on.  It's interesting to think of what that might be. 

The thing that makes the most sense to me is methane hydrates.  As the oceans freeze up over land, water levels drop.  The only thing keeping methane hydrates from blowing their wad is the pressure of the deep ocean.  As water levels drop, the cork is popped, and the methane hydrates turn to gas.  This time, bad gas.  Not excellent, friendly CO2--the kind of gas you'd like to share a beer with. 

53

50.  Copenhagen weather is predicted to deteriorate next week dropping below freezing with snow.

Maybe America will get lucky and obamao will get snowed in for the rest of his term.

54 I do so love the word "interesting."

55 The thing that makes the most sense to me is methane hydrates...

I wonder what the "reloading" mechanism would be that puts them back so the cycle can continue?

56 That was a pretty cool study, going back in time. Of course the further back you go the less reliable and the more sketchy the data becomes (pressure, radiation over time, age, etc all are going to alter the ice) but its a pretty informative study. It looks like we may be heading into another ice age... in a thousand years or so.

57 PA, the ocean sucks it up, IIRC, and it precipitates out down low.  But I'm just shooting from the hip.  If I see something more specific, I'll get back to you.  Thing is, the oceans gobble-up CO2 like c-razy.  So I might be mixing and matching recollections.

58

This is interesting.  "Methane clathrates" appears to be another term for it, and there's already a theory, the "methane clathrate gun."  I kinda like that.  'Cept I thought of it w/o their help. 

Still looking for something specific on the formation of the deposits.  Research and destroy mission.

59 Jesus effin Christmas....

Frankly I'm more worried about the downfall of civilization on the cold side...

For those who had classes in DiffEQ's, Dynamic systems, LaPlace Transforms or Fourier Transforms, the fact that output of a complex system is not linear, but sinusoidal wouldn't be too much of a surprise... Now for lawyers, and failed divinity students, that might not be intuitively obvious...

60 Although some research has been carried out in the past, little is known about the location, formation, decomposition, or actual quantities of methane hydrates.

61

This is good:

Two models have been proposed to account for the formation of methane hydrates and the development of BSRs: (1) the BSR is caused by hydrate overlying gas-saturated sediment and (2) the BSR is caused by hydrate overlying brine-saturated sediment. The first model assumes the local generation of methane from organic material at the depth of the hydrate. Gradual thickening and thus deepening of the hydrated zone causes it eventually to subside into a temperature region where hydrate is unstable. Consequently, free gas can be present in this region Kvenvolden and Barnard (1983a). The BSR is then caused by the impedance contrast at the base of the hydrated zone and the top of the gas layer. The second model, in contrast, supports the formation of methane hydrates through the removal of methane from rising pore fluids being expelled from deeper in the sediment section Hyndman and Davis (1992). Most of the methane is generated microbially at a depth below the hydrate stability zone, but not at depths sufficient for the formation of thermogenic methane. Therefore, free gas does not have to be present beneath the BSR. In this case, the BSR can be the consequence of the impedance contrast between overlying sediments containing substantial amounts of hydrate and underlying brine-saturated sediments.

62 phreshone 60, check out the Vostok Antarctic core on that page. The "sinusoidal" regularity of the ice patches scares the crap out of me.

As I (very dimly) remember my partial differential equations class, in a chaotic system we might see an alternation of peaks and troughs; but we won't do well predicting where the peaks are, nor how long they'll last, nor how large they'll be.

I have in mind Lorenz's three "butterfly" equations.

The Pleistocene didn't follow the chaotic pattern; the ice ages look regular (and yes, the natural state of the Pleistocene seems to be testis-freezingly COLD). Since the geography of the continents hasn't changed and since I haven't seen any evidence that the nature of the sun has changed, I can't see how we're not overdue for iced-over scrota worldwide.

63 (slight correction for teh nerdz, I implied the Lorenz trio are partial DEQs, and they're not)

64 Wow.

So the Motley CRUe hasn't just been hiding the decline, they've only been showing a very small part of the history that can be seen if one is willing to look? 

65 When Yellowstone blows, one would suspect it will be enough of an impulse on the thermal system to throw the earth back into an ice age...

66 Can we please build some farking nuclear plants?

67 Well, at least now we know why the Ancients fled earth 100,000 years ago -- the joint went ice age on'em and even they were powerless to stop it.  Even ZPM's can't hold off planetary ice ages.

68

Motley CRUe

Good one.

69 Fourier-Transform of global gridded, raw weather data - hmmm  wonder if that would help deal with the stations that have artificial or induced temperature changes.

70 51 Global warming is real and it WILL happen --- in the spring.

Spring's already happened, mate.

71 BURBERRY Scarf | CD Keys

72

I'm glad I'm retiring to the Philippines. I don't really like the current 90 degrees with 90% humidity. I'm in luck. Just have to wait a bit. Looks like 80/80 comin' right up. That'll do me just fine while all the eco-Nazis and other airheads here in The Peoples Republic of Minnesota deal with really cold weather a' la North Slope.

I would really like to live long enough to watch the leading edge of the glaciers arrive in New Orleans.