December 01, 2009
— Gabriel Malor The President's preferred dictator-for-life, Chavista thug Zelaya, didn't get his way so Obama's going to keep punishing Honduras by refusing to recognize President Lobo and refusing to allow visas for Hondurans to resume.
"It's a significant step for Honduras to go back to order but it's just that. It's only a step and it's not the last step... It's not sufficient," said US assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere Affairs, Arturo Valenzuela.
More here of Obama's demands before he'll recognize the sovereign right of Hondurans to choose their leader:
"For the countries of the Hemisphere and for the United States, to work towards the restoration of Honduras to the Organization of American States [OAS] later on, Honduras must do more than just this election," said Arturo Valenzuela. "It must follow a process of national reconciliation through a government of national unity, and that's what we're urging the Honduran leadership to engage in. The people of Honduras want nothing less."Valenzuela said the Obama administration seeks implementation of an OAS-backed settlement plan, including the creation of a truth commission on the circumstances of the coup and a congressional vote set for Wednesday on whether Mr. Zelaya will be returned to office to complete his term, which was to end in late-January.
The senior diplomat said the United States wants to see Mr. Zelaya restored to office.
Of course, Zelaya has already stated that he will refuse reinstatement following the "fraudulent" election. Which means Obama is placing impossible conditions on Honduras.
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Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 01, 2009 05:41 AM (HKfde)
Posted by: YIKES! at December 01, 2009 05:42 AM (LswIE)
Posted by: drolmorg at December 01, 2009 05:44 AM (aKTln)
Posted by: Mandy P. at December 01, 2009 05:44 AM (MK6Kx)
From a warm and fuzzy Bush to a mean and uncaring under the bus throwin' nephew
Posted by: Rewrite! at December 01, 2009 05:44 AM (d7Px0)
Posted by: Mephitis at December 01, 2009 05:45 AM (ehXLT)
Posted by: Slublog at December 01, 2009 05:45 AM (qjKko)
Once again Barry proves that he's nothing but a spoiled brat who has to have his way.
Posted by: TheQuietman at December 01, 2009 05:46 AM (1Jaio)
Gabe,
Tell me this is a Bull Shit post? PLEASE?
WTF are these people smoking?
And what are you doing up so damn early?
Posted by: Kemp at December 01, 2009 05:47 AM (2+9Yx)
Obama is not only stupid
Somebody, PLEASE tell me that this idiot is not going to (finally) surge during the harsh Afghanistan winter!
Ever heard of Waterloo?
Posted by: Napolean at December 01, 2009 05:47 AM (d7Px0)
What commie shithole did this fucking turd climb out of, or is he just the standard issue State Dept quisling?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 01, 2009 05:47 AM (2Uu3I)
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 01, 2009 05:47 AM (I2aaX)
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at December 01, 2009 05:47 AM (HmjDq)
So the goddamn Barry Administration is now installing fascist thug dictators in Central America?
I thought all the assholes in Hollywood and elsewhere thought that it was Reagan who did that kind of stuff...
Oh, but no, it makes sense, those same assholes defended the thug shit from the Commies back then.
Christ I hate these fuckers.
Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at December 01, 2009 05:48 AM (dh7zu)
And color Obama azzhole.
So, in conclusion, I denounce myself so Chuckles Ponytail won't have to.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 01, 2009 05:48 AM (5zA/v)
This sounds exactly like Chavez!
Posted by: ParisParamus at December 01, 2009 05:49 AM (I2aaX)
Congratulations on a successful election that threw out a communist wankstain. Hopefully we can do the same thing in 2012.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2009 05:49 AM (u1Awp)
Posted by: jainphx at December 01, 2009 05:53 AM (4t9Xj)
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How do you even define that?
Does the US have a "government of national unity?"
Posted by: schizuki at December 01, 2009 05:53 AM (D3xB2)
Posted by: Kemp at December 01, 2009 05:53 AM (2+9Yx)
Ever notice the Top Headlines Comments thread that we have here at the HQ? That goes up between 6 and 6:20 every weekday morning? With my name on it?
I'm up this early every day.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 01, 2009 05:53 AM (Mi2wf)
The people of Honduras want nothing less."
Hey barry, the new Pesident got a higher %age of the popular vote than you did (56-58%).
Jealous? Or are you afraid that your Unconstitutional shit might get called in a similar manner?
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 05:54 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: Mephitis at December 01, 2009 05:54 AM (ehXLT)
Posted by: NYCcon at December 01, 2009 05:59 AM (jLXdE)
http://is.gd/590EE
It was last updated on 11/11/2009.
How do you even define that?
Does the US have a "government of national unity?"
Good question. Honduras is not a parliamentary government. It has no unity government with ministers from all parties. It's a Democratic Constitutional Republic with a unicameral legislative branch.
Lobo received 46% of the vote in 2005 and Zelaya never achieved a plurality of the vote. He got to 49%. Lobo isn't a nobody. He's a major contender in the state. He won. It's over. He gets to appoint the people he wants. He's got a bigger mandate than Zelaya had. Other nations are going to have to suck it up and accept the results.
Posted by: WTFCI at December 01, 2009 06:00 AM (GtYrq)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 01, 2009 06:01 AM (8sFMl)
OT - In a side note:
UN puffs out its chest as it exercises its role as arbitor of all things legal in the world.
Seems minor on the surface but this may echo for a while. It may also enable some peaceful car burning, looting and other forms of peaceful protest from adherents of the religion of peace.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 01, 2009 06:01 AM (r1h5M)
A "truth commission"????
We already had one of those here. The Congressional Research Office did a paper. The ouster of the communist thug was legal.
What I would like to know is why isn't the Republicans raising more hell about this? During the Reagan term when he was trying to oppose the communist thugs in Central America the communist Party in the congress was busy thwarting him at every turn. Republicans should be doing the same to the idiot communist in office now.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:02 AM (CDUiN)
Ever notice the Top Headlines Comments thread that we have here at the HQ? That goes up between 6 and 6:20 every weekday morning? With my name on it?
That was you?
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 01, 2009 06:03 AM (Be4xl)
I think he's qualified for "Special Envoy to Brazil" or something like that. I mean, he's already crashed at their embassy in Tegucigalpa, right? Just get him a spiffy desk from Office Max, some stationery, and he's good to go!
(And as a bonus, you could count it as a job saved or created in the Virgin Islands' 56th congressional district on recovery.gov.)
C'mon, man, help a brutha out. It's the Chicago way! Ooogo and Fidel would approve. No need to go hatin' on Honduras. Hope & change, baby!!!
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at December 01, 2009 06:03 AM (KWhJd)
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 01, 2009 06:04 AM (Be4xl)
No they will not endorse it because a communist did not win.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:04 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Mike Bowler at December 01, 2009 06:04 AM (WNTm+)
"The people of Honduras want nothing less."
--said US assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere Affairs, Arturo Valenzuela.
Why is this asshole speaking for the Honduran people?
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 01, 2009 06:05 AM (z37MR)
Mr. Thin Skin is still throwing a tantrum over being rejected. Again.
Is there anything Obama touches that doesn't turn sour?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 01, 2009 06:07 AM (5zA/v)
This is nothing more than a message to the peons from the Leftists that they better think twice before electing a rightwinger.
If Santos, the leftwinger, won, the Obama admin and Chavez would've immediately embraced Honduras and declared everything was back to normal.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 01, 2009 06:10 AM (z37MR)
I believe this to be true. I pray that it is true - that there is only so far that even the majority on the left will go before they say - enough!
No matter what, this country is not and will not become a socialist country and even the left will shitcan anyone who tries to cross that line. Obama is standing on it.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 01, 2009 06:10 AM (r1h5M)
Posted by: Michelle O at December 01, 2009 06:11 AM (NtiET)
Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2009 06:12 AM (Scxfk)
Or will they be more polite about it?
Posted by: mojo at December 01, 2009 06:14 AM (g1cNf)
Government of national unity, I think that means that we only want the commies to have half the power that they gained none of in the election. Then they can later work to cheat the other half of power away from the non-commies.
Did I miss something here?
Posted by: Mephitis at December 01, 2009 09:54 AM (ehXLT)
I think you nailed it on the head.Plus, Obama wants Zelaya returned to office ASAP so he can pull a Chavez and make himself president for life.
Posted by: Tinian at December 01, 2009 06:14 AM (7+pP9)
US assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere Affairs, Arturo Valenzuela.
Who is Arturo Valenzuela - and why does he hate democracy?
Posted by: davod at December 01, 2009 06:15 AM (GUZAT)
Posted by: JohnTant at December 01, 2009 06:15 AM (PFy0L)
I don't see Obama leaving the White House peacefully if he gets beat, especially if he gets beat bad and if its by Palin. Nope, i think what is going on in Hondo will happen here and there will be an internaltional truth finding commission welcomed by Obama, the Dems in Congress as well as by liberal voters to validate the election, and of course Castro and Chavez will chair it and appoint Zelaya as the on the ground guy here in America to run the operation.
Posted by: x11b1p at December 01, 2009 06:17 AM (ejoAx)
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:18 AM (CDUiN)
Who is Arturo Valenzuela - and why does he hate democracy?
He's another Ivy League egghead. His political career began under Clinton.
Posted by: Tinian at December 01, 2009 06:20 AM (7+pP9)
Pres Lobo should have a nice public hanging of Zelaya. For treason.
It's not like the local dictators, and barry, will think less of him. We've cut off aid, and just told Honduras to F-off for another six years. Rule of law and all that.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 06:20 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:21 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Mike H at December 01, 2009 06:21 AM (cvvNY)
I thought the people voted for what they wanted ... but no, a US "diplomat" is going to overrule them.
And all the socialists insist it was a "coup", despite Zelaya's illegal actions and the legit actions of their congress to prevent another Chavez like thug from extending his term.
So harsh sanctions may continue on Honduras for opposing a dictator wannabe ... but only harsh words for Iran as they murdered those that opposed oppression.
President of the world Obama seems the hold to the antithesis of the Bush doctrine ... instead of spreading democracy, he wants to kill it.
Posted by: bill at December 01, 2009 06:21 AM (nUbAO)
Posted by: Mike H at December 01, 2009 06:22 AM (cvvNY)
"Somebody, PLEASE tell me that this idiot is not going to (finally) surge during the harsh Afghanistan winter!
Ever heard of Waterloo?"
Ever heard of global warming? There's no such thing as a harsh winter anymore. It's all gone, just like the polar ice caps and the polar bear....as a matter of fact, there's a global push to rid the world of the word 'polar' because of it.
Posted by: Sponge at December 01, 2009 06:22 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: WTFCI at December 01, 2009 06:22 AM (GtYrq)
I'm so ashamed we have this asshole for a President.
Thanks, 52%! Assholes.
Posted by: Xoxotl at December 01, 2009 06:24 AM (j88uA)
Question is why did DeMint remove the block on his nomination? It doesn't appear that Bambi has changed his policy.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:24 AM (CDUiN)
Is barrys' foreign policy on a spinning dartboard? Weeja board? Coin toss?
The only consistancy is that he loves thugs, and is a complete ashole.
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 06:24 AM (sUYFh)
Posted by: x11b1p at December 01, 2009 06:25 AM (ejoAx)
Just like how the Obama admin only care about the 44% of the people who support them, they only care about the leftists in Honduras.
Obama is not interested in being the president to ALL people, just to the people who like him and agree with his policies. In other words, Obama takes care of his personal mob.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 01, 2009 06:25 AM (z37MR)
Posted by: Jim Treacher at December 01, 2009 06:26 AM (GrDz5)
Posted by: Pyrocles at December 01, 2009 06:28 AM (xzSvW)
Speaking of Larry Summers...
this is a man whose primary economic indicator is a google-search statistic.
Posted by: a.k.a. at December 01, 2009 06:28 AM (z37MR)
Posted by: Dave at December 01, 2009 06:29 AM (Xm1aB)
If Zelaya is reinstated, he has to leave in Jan. according to their constitution, so he isn't allowed to run again in Jan, would B to the O recognize that?
I must admit some jonesing for schadenfreude if Zelaya would be reinstated because of B to the O and then refuse to leave even when his "term" is up.
Posted by: The Hammer at December 01, 2009 06:30 AM (YBTwf)
Posted by: Note to Honduras at December 01, 2009 06:31 AM (22if9)
"The Ivy League" that is a misnomer. We should be calling them the "Commie League". They were infested with communists back in the 30s and have never been cleaned out.
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:31 AM (CDUiN)
Obama and State both, for slightly different reasons, want a red/fascist bloc in South/Central America to act as a brake on the US, a potential second front, allied with Iran across the Atlantic and N. Korea across the Pacific, openable against the US in overseas wars. They'll foment unrest in, and encourage invasion of, holdout states until it happens.
They're fulfilling the prophecy of a "Post-American World." Obama thinks he'll rule it. And he will, sort of, for a little while.
Posted by: oblig. at December 01, 2009 06:35 AM (k5ILr)
Posted by: Y-not with chin on floor at December 01, 2009 06:36 AM (sey23)
Summers was appointed to a position with no Congressional oversight. Summers couldn't pass a confirmation hearing. His closet is filled with skeletons.
Posted by: WTFCI at December 01, 2009 06:37 AM (GtYrq)
Posted by: jjshaka at December 01, 2009 06:37 AM (RbPsy)
This from an administration and political party that excludes the opposition party from its policy-making process. Not only is Obama an incompetent asshole but a hypocrite as well. (But we knew all this already.)
Posted by: Reiver at December 01, 2009 06:37 AM (Yi1Sk)
Posted by: Vic at December 01, 2009 06:38 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 01, 2009 06:40 AM (ujg0T)
"Truth?" Never heard of it.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at December 01, 2009 06:40 AM (4jZ56)
Good point ... everyone else is supposed to be quiet ... he is The Won.
Posted by: bill at December 01, 2009 06:41 AM (nUbAO)
Posted by: Mark at December 01, 2009 06:41 AM (Vvbjc)
Posted by: Holdfast at December 01, 2009 06:42 AM (Gzb30)
Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2009 06:44 AM (wXypd)
I must admit some jonesing for schadenfreude if Zelaya would be reinstated because of B to the O and then refuse to leave even when his "term" is up.
Posted by: The Hammer at December 01, 2009 10:30 AM (YBTwf)
That's exactly what Obama wants to happen.Posted by: Tinian at December 01, 2009 06:46 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: eman at December 01, 2009 06:47 AM (ubXrB)
I'm rather in agreement with whoever already stated that our present may be thinking of trying the same stunt here if not re-elected. Honduras is just a case to make precedent with.
Either that, or our foreign policy is now being decided by fascist loving dolts. Maybe both.
Posted by: unknown jane at December 01, 2009 06:48 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Rhinestone Suderman at December 01, 2009 06:49 AM (TafJB)
Smart Power: Promoting democracy in Central America by discounting the result of a legitimate election.
To paraphrase Glenn Reynolds- if he were actively trying to fuck things up, how would he be acting any differently?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 01, 2009 06:49 AM (plsiE)
Mr Zelaya, ousted in June, said he would refuse reinstatement even if Congress voted this week to restore him to serve out his term until January..per BBC news. http://tinyurl.com/yhzdddh
So barry won't recognize it, and Zelaya won't serve. Honduras is supposed to come to a standstill until January?
WTF This asshole backs himself into a corner, then bends over?
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 06:49 AM (sUYFh)
Even Zelaya's party rejected him! Obama's position is so ridiculous and antithetical to America's interests that it can only be a result of extreme stupidity and/or a desire to promote communism.
I used to read John Birch Society literature. Although patriotic, it just seemed too wacky and too conspiracy oriented, like the Obama birth delusion.
But after events like this matter in Honduras, maybe the Brichers are right.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 01, 2009 06:50 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: David Ross at December 01, 2009 06:52 AM (9Sbz+)
http://tinyurl.com/ylb65qm
Posted by: momma at December 01, 2009 06:52 AM (penCf)
47 Is this the part where the Hondurans tell President Pathetic to go fuck himself?
No, that already happened - see the election outcome, which if you think about it, could be interpreted as a referendum on whether Hondurans give a rat's ass what Obama thinks about their country. That's what Obama is so pissed about. Maybe he'll forgive them fly down and give them an inspiring speech, as soon as he learns a few phrases in Honduranese.
Oh, and look up FYBO in the Honduran dictionary.
Posted by: sherlock at December 01, 2009 06:55 AM (cq3pU)
The senior diplomat said the United States wants to see Mr. Zelaya restored to office.
And I want a pony.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 01, 2009 06:57 AM (ZJ/un)
Obama wants to rewrite the ending to this story because in his fantasy world he hopes Amerika will throw out the constitution and "elect" him as permanent leader after his two terms. I don't consider it a coup when the supreme court, the legilsature, and the members of the majority party all work together to thwart an unconsitutional power grab that was sure to include a fraudulent election. Liberty won in Honduras and Obama can't stand it.
Posted by: California Red at December 01, 2009 07:12 AM (FzEhM)
Fascinating.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 01, 2009 07:19 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Mike H at December 01, 2009 10:22 AM (cvvNY)
Yep. That's also the entire reason for all of this. He tried to get the single term limit removed so he could run again. He attempted to change the constitution. Their congress said you can't do that, the military said they won't distribute the ballots, he tried to fire the chief of the army and he can't do that, so everyone said bye bye to the guy attempting to constantly break the law.
Posted by: buzzion at December 01, 2009 07:20 AM (opdYb)
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 11:07 AM (sUYFh)
Now we know why they wanted the unicorns. Look at where they want to stick the horn.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 01, 2009 07:23 AM (T0NGe)
To the left of him, or more thuggish than him, not so much.
Or is it my imagination?
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 01, 2009 07:24 AM (lYKj1)
I used to read John Birch Society literature. Although patriotic, it just seemed too wacky and too conspiracy oriented, like the Obama birth delusion.
But after events like this matter in Honduras, maybe the Brichers are right. -
Yes, the sunlight begins to shine through for another fellow moron. You see, the word 'conspiricy' exists for a reason. Conspiricies exist. Once you can accept this as a possibility, so many other things begin to make sense. Questions like "How could this particular president have done that" begin to answer themselves. It takes an open mind and just the tiny bit of courage it takes to not care if someone calls you a 'tin foil hat type' or a retard.
Posted by: teej at December 01, 2009 07:27 AM (QdUKm)
This is beyond absurd for a guy who has stated many times that he would not mettle in other countries affairs
Posted by: bulwark at December 01, 2009 07:38 AM (jvrmc)
Posted by: the other coyote at December 01, 2009 07:39 AM (yK44T)
Posted by: Mike H at December 01, 2009 07:46 AM (cvvNY)
I swear I wish the government of Honduras would refuse to recognize Obama as President due to the numerous reports of election fraud,they would be every bit as justified in doing so.
Posted by: bulwark at December 01, 2009 07:47 AM (jvrmc)
Yes, the sunlight begins to shine through for another fellow moron. You see, the word 'conspiricy' exists for a reason. Conspiricies exist. Once you can accept this as a possibility, so many other things begin to make sense. Questions like "How could this particular president have done that" begin to answer themselves. It takes an open mind and just the tiny bit of courage it takes to not care if someone calls you a 'tin foil hat type' or a retard.
Sorry, I draw the line at Ike being a communist tool. Did he make bad calls at Dien Bien Phu and the Suez? Absolutely. But to call Ike a Soviet tool was beyond the pale....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 01, 2009 07:49 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: FPC at December 01, 2009 07:54 AM (wk3gC)
Once you can accept this as a possibility, so many other things begin to make sense...
Like, why is my belly-button lint blue, when I have no blue shirts?
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 07:58 AM (sUYFh)
Sorry, I draw the line at Ike being a communist tool. Did he make bad calls at Dien Bien Phu and the Suez? Absolutely. But to call Ike a Soviet tool was beyond the pale.... -
For me too man. I didn't say I buy into all of those conspiricy theories. But there are some areas where, well lets just say, I see way too many coincindences to bee comfortable with.
Posted by: teej at December 01, 2009 08:37 AM (QdUKm)
Posted by: Dave at December 01, 2009 08:41 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: hutch1200 at December 01, 2009 08:42 AM (sUYFh)
Is EVERYONE in this administration cognitively delayed?
This is patently retarded and a slight contradiction to the Obama , "We're just another Country" Doctrine, no?
To quote his least attractive Toadie ," It's truly unprecedented.".
Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2009 08:52 AM (TDjaR)
Posted by: mark c at December 01, 2009 08:55 AM (SBIko)
Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 01, 2009 09:13 AM (B5cM9)
Posted by: GarandFan at December 01, 2009 09:45 AM (ZQBnQ)
Posted by: stace at December 01, 2009 10:05 AM (g/wgk)
Some leading Republican members of Congress should quietly (on national tv in Honduras) tell the Honduran leadership what an idiot Obama is. They need to follow the same rules as the Dems did with Bush. Let the Honduran people know that power is going to change in DC and that all they need to do is sit tight.
That if nothing else will just piss off Obama.
Posted by: southdakotaboy at December 01, 2009 10:25 AM (TC4J/)
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at December 01, 2009 12:04 PM (QxGmu)
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at December 01, 2009 12:46 PM (0MGT1)
"The people of Honduras want nothing less."
How the frackity frack would you know what the people want you tool?
Posted by: Machinehead at December 01, 2009 02:40 PM (937VA)
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