December 20, 2009

Teh "Gore Effect" has new victims -- Chunnel Trains
— Purple Avenger

Five trains stopped running tunnel in the past two days stranding passengers for as long as 16 hours

Eurostar rail services were suspended for a second day on Sunday as the company investigated why six trains carrying more than 2,500 passengers broke down, five of them in an undersea tunnel linking Britain and France...

...technical faults caused by snow and sub-zero temperatures, Eurostar said.

I wonder what sort of technical faults having the tunnel openings covered with glaciers are going to cause? Stadials in the past have demonstrated onset with dramatic speed...like significant cooling during periods as short as only 10 or 20 years.

U.N.P.R.E.C.E.D.E.N.T.E.D.

I give the system designers a B+.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 09:22 PM | Comments (101)
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1 I told you it was a New Ice Age was coming. So it took 30 years. Did you think I meant next Tuesday?

Posted by: 70's science at December 20, 2009 09:25 PM (2bmRi)

2 Me

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at December 20, 2009 09:25 PM (3IZGh)

3 I suppose the engineers who designed the systems built them to handle unprecedented Global Warming but didn't give a thought to the climate getting very cold.  I wonder why that was?

Posted by: Speller at December 20, 2009 09:26 PM (7Ldd7)

4 I missed it by just that much..Damn

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at December 20, 2009 09:26 PM (3IZGh)

5 Here are your tools.

Posted by: Algore at December 20, 2009 09:27 PM (R0lVr)

6 I didn't know they had AMTRAK over there.

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at December 20, 2009 09:27 PM (3IZGh)

7 I love trains. Can I just sit in it till it starts running again. I don't have much to do right now.

Posted by: 70's science at December 20, 2009 09:29 PM (2bmRi)

8 What we need are more coal fired, CO2 belching Steam Locomotives.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 20, 2009 09:30 PM (Q9fJG)

9

What we need are more coal fired, CO2 belching Steam Locomotives.   Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 21, 2009 01:30 AM (Q9fJG)

Now we're talkin trains.

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at December 20, 2009 09:33 PM (3IZGh)

10 The science is settled! The engineering, not so much.

Posted by: PKO Strany at December 20, 2009 09:36 PM (1rQWu)

11 4-6-6-4 Challenger.  We need to crank'em out again...by the thousands.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 20, 2009 09:37 PM (Q9fJG)

12 Gore supporters whine that the Gore effect is nothing more than coincidence. After coincidence. After coincidence.... (stolen from abovetopsecret.com)

Posted by: theCork at December 20, 2009 09:43 PM (za8iP)

13

Today's weather is not the climate, the climate is not the weather.

Lot's and lot's of weather over a long period of time is the climate.

OK, having said that and furthermore believing that Anthropogenic climate change is total crap, I have to wonder who the Hell engineered or specified the equipment for the Chunnel.

It freezes almost every year in the UK and France.

 

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at December 20, 2009 09:44 PM (F09Uo)

14 Nobody with experience with British cars motorcycles pretty much anything is surprised by this.  Did Lucas make the controls for the Chunnel?

Posted by: Hatchet Five at December 20, 2009 09:47 PM (WCe8b)

15 I have to wonder who the Hell engineered or specified the equipment for the Chunnel.

The same people who came up with RoHS and essentially legislatively mandated the wave of electronics failures it will generate in 10 years or so due to tin whisker formation on solder joints -- IOW idiots.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 20, 2009 09:49 PM (Q9fJG)

16 Theesa train stuck! Meesa cold, Ani!

Posted by: Jar Jar at December 20, 2009 09:50 PM (yf/JJ)

17 Mayon volcano is getting ready to erupt and they say this one looks like it might be a doozy.  SO2 emissions are currently at 6 to 7 thousand tons/day, up from about 2 thousand tons on Friday.  You can <a href="http://www.phivolcs.dost.gov.ph/">follow the bulletins here</a>.

We probably don't need a major volcanic eruption during a negative PDO phase.  When Pinatubo erupted, we were in a positive PDO phase.

If Mayon lets loose with a Plinian eruption, we could be in for a pretty short summer and cold winter next year.


Posted by: crosspatch at December 20, 2009 09:50 PM (ZbLJZ)

18 There's some evidence that (at least) one of the geologic "cooling events" in the past was triggered by major volcanic activity.

There's also some research suggesting Krakatoa cooled deep ocean waters for several decades.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 20, 2009 10:02 PM (Q9fJG)

19 Deep ocean waters?   That would take thousands of years.

Posted by: rdbrewer at December 20, 2009 10:04 PM (szk6k)

20 And earlier and larger eruption of Krakatoa in 535AD is probably responsible for a period known as "The Dark Ages".  It took 10 years for sunlight to return to normal.  The sun looked like a bluish glow in the sky like through an overcast sky for several years after that eruption.


Posted by: crosspatch at December 20, 2009 10:07 PM (ZbLJZ)

21 We don't know at what rate the temperature changes on the abyssal plains.  It would be interesting to put ocean temperature monitors on undersea cables to track the temperature over time, though.  That would give definite indication of global climate without any need for "adjustments" or time of observation calibration.

Posted by: crosspatch at December 20, 2009 10:10 PM (ZbLJZ)

22 We're causing volcanic eruptions, too? Man, we are badass!

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2009 10:10 PM (yf/JJ)

23 I imagine all the US and Russian nuke subs take regular temp reading at different depths/locations as they move around.  I also suspect that data isn't generally made available to the scientific community.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 20, 2009 10:16 PM (Q9fJG)

24 Deep ocean waters?   That would take thousands of years.

By deep, I think those guys were probably referring to "not shallow".  I don't imagine even a really kick ass ice age does much to the water at the bottom of the Marianas trench and really deep shit like that.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 20, 2009 10:21 PM (Q9fJG)

25 I heard earlier this evening that some sunspots have finally appeared.  So, I guess global warming will be back any day now...

Posted by: ParisParamus at December 20, 2009 10:22 PM (9Kvl0)

26 Getting tons of temperature data sounds like lots of fun, but we are just spectators in all of this. The most we can do with temp data is help us to guess right if we should stock up on hot chocolate mix or ice tea mix. When and how the Earth's climate is going to change is completely out of our hands, there is nothing we can do about it.

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2009 10:22 PM (yf/JJ)

27 What we need are more coal fired, CO2 belching Steam Locomotives.

Meh, the hot fly ash always burned my eyes as I was leaning out the window to shoot buffalo.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at December 20, 2009 10:22 PM (iqPIL)

28 We need to create the American Asteroid Republic. No Commies allowed.

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2009 10:24 PM (yf/JJ)

29 Nuclear subs don't get below 2000 feet as far as I know.   The Russians made a titanium hulled sub that was supposed to be able to get down to 4,000 feet but even that isn't near the bottom.  The "average" ocean depth is 14,000 feet and Challenger Deep is something like 36,000 feet.  Something like only 3% of the ocean surface has been explored.  Just saw something on TV that said there was more unexplored surface under the ocean than on Moon and Mars combined.

The temperature on the very bottom would give the best overall picture of global climate change.

Posted by: crosspatch at December 20, 2009 10:25 PM (ZbLJZ)

30

The temperature on the very bottom would give the best overall picture of global climate change.

Temperature would have to be 4 degrees C.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2009 10:30 PM (LogZg)

31 Give a hoot! Please pollute!

Posted by: Percopius at December 20, 2009 10:30 PM (V0nbk)

32

"Last year, the Channel tunnel, which opened in 1994, was shut for two days after a large fire broke out on a freight train. A blaze in 1996 halted freight traffic for seven months."

Jesus Christ. I'd rather storm the beach at Normandy.

Posted by: BoutrosBoutros at December 20, 2009 10:31 PM (2BlP3)

33 #32, Europe could use some tort reform--they don't have the personal injury lawyers that conservatives (other than myself) despise...

Posted by: ParisParamus at December 20, 2009 10:38 PM (9Kvl0)

34 "Temperature would have to be 4 degrees C."

I would be surprised if it is that high.  I would expect it to be somewhere around 0 to -1 C.  Sea water freezes at about -3 to -5 C depending on salinity and I would expect the water at the bottom of the ocean to only be just above freezing.

Posted by: crosspatch at December 20, 2009 10:41 PM (ZbLJZ)

35 I would be surprised if it is that high.  I would expect it to be somewhere around 0 to -1 C.  Sea water freezes at about -3 to -5 C depending on salinity and I would expect the water at the bottom of the ocean to only be just above freezing.

Well if it's really deep, it would have to be at least 500,000 C.
(According to the Al Gore's theory of a mini sun at the center of the earth)

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at December 20, 2009 10:52 PM (iqPIL)

36 "The average ocean temperature is 3.8°C; even at the equator the average temperature is as low as 4.9°C"

But when you get deep:

"Abyssopelagic Zone - The next layer is called the abyssopelagic zone, also known as the abyssal zone or simply as the abyss. It extends from 4000 meters (13,124 feet) to 6000 meters (19,686 feet). The name comes from a Greek word meaning "no bottom". The water temperature is near freezing, and there is no light at all."

That isn't even the deepest part ...


"
Hadalpelagic Zone - Beyond the abyssopelagic zone lies the forbidding hadalpelagic zone. This layer extends from 6000 meters (19,686 feet) to the bottom of the deepest parts of the ocean. These areas are mostly found in deep water trenches and canyons. The deepest point in the ocean is located in the Mariana Trench off the coast of Japan at 35,797 feet (10,911 meters). The temperature of the water is just above freezing"

Considering that freezing is -3 to -5 C for water of that salinity, I would expect to see something like -1 to -2 C at the bottom.


Posted by: crosspatch at December 20, 2009 10:56 PM (ZbLJZ)

37 PA,  the world needs a non-RoHS Mouser

Posted by: Acer Laptops at December 20, 2009 11:43 PM (xCBQ4)

38 Harry Reid's high speed train to Las Vegas stranded out in the Mojave Desert will make for an excellent made for TV stinker.

Posted by: torabora at December 21, 2009 12:15 AM (QFACg)

39 #11 Back in the middle 60's I rode an East German train from West Germany to Berlin....it burned coal, left smoke, and the fumes would gag passengers. There wasn't any AGW then either.

Posted by: torabora at December 21, 2009 12:24 AM (QFACg)

40 Read that one earlier. It's terrifying & makes me feel extremel claustrophobic.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 21, 2009 12:25 AM (zmiSr)

41 BTW...Does it snow IN the Chunnel? I'm confused.

Posted by: torabora at December 21, 2009 12:26 AM (QFACg)

42 CNN was just showing some crap report about how man has caused the plight of the poor polar bears...bla bla bla......while Washington D.C. is still digging out of ten feet of snow.

Posted by: Case at December 21, 2009 12:32 AM (0K+Kw)

43 Contains Nothing Newsworthy.....

next?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 21, 2009 01:15 AM (d1FhN)

44 Know why the AGW cult gets anal about the polar ice caps? Because they know it's not exactly a tourist destination, so basically you have to take their word for it on the ice cover.

They're good for their word, right?

Posted by: kbdabear at December 21, 2009 01:29 AM (sYxEE)

45

Steven Seagal is in,



THE DINING CAR DOWN BELOW

Posted by: Blazer at December 21, 2009 02:33 AM (+FzLa)

46 Lol, so CNN says Sarah Palin wins "Lie of the Year" for saying seniors will have to stand in front of Obama's Death Panels (which was actually a true statement).  Now why does THAT not surprise me?

Obama lies to us 200 times in the last 12 months but Sarah Palin wins for big lier.

Bullshit.

Posted by: Bill MItchell at December 21, 2009 03:02 AM (Gm9rd)

47 I really don't see how in the aftermath of the mammogram scandal these people get the gall to criticize Palin over 'death panels' but...Palin's death panels description of HCR is one of the truest things any politicians has said this year.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 21, 2009 03:19 AM (+deq6)

48

I question the timing.

Posted by: John F Not Kerry at December 21, 2009 03:21 AM (HF2US)

49 wow it is almost like the climate really is changing thanks for pointing it out !

Posted by: sheik Yamani at December 21, 2009 03:22 AM (mhD2v)

50 I mean, c'mon, before I even read the CNN article on "BIGGEST POLITICAL LIE OF THE YEAR", I just KNEW it had to be Sarah Palin.  I mean, c'mon.  This is CNN after all.

Meanwhile they mentioned on Obama "lie" but it was some obscure thing left open to interpretation.  How about "the healthcare debate will be held on CSPAN for all to see"?  Or "if you pass this stimulus, unemployment will never go above 8%"?

Those whoppers get no mention.


Posted by: Bill MItchell at December 21, 2009 03:29 AM (Gm9rd)

51

Good morning, morons,

Looks like come Christmas Eve, we'll be well on our way to being a socialist/abjectly insolvent state.

Hey, I've got an idea, let's put a post and post and argue some more about a cartoon movie about fucking alien Smurfs

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at December 21, 2009 03:33 AM (AnTyA)

52

From Mitch McConnell's statement regarding the dead-of-the-night takeover vote by the socialists:

“But make no mistake: if the people who wrote this bill were proud of it, they wouldn’t be forcing this vote in the dead of night

“Here are just some of the deals we’ve noticed:

“$100 million for an unnamed health care facility at an unnamed university somewhere in the United States — the bill doesn’t say where — and no one will even step forward to claim it.

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at December 21, 2009 03:40 AM (AnTyA)

53 The Chunnel is as far north as Hudson's Bay. The only thing keeping England warm is the Gulf Stream whose effect is being lessened by the melting of the Greenland icecap Of course this has always happened before, but there were not 300 million people living in Northern Europe at that time

Posted by: sheik Yamani at December 21, 2009 03:56 AM (mhD2v)

54 When you hop a ytain or plane, your safety/efficency is in the hands of the least comptetent mechanic or operator. Period.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 21, 2009 04:09 AM (kpGB9)

55 53 sheik how many people were living there? i suggest that we only allow that many people to live there now......now.....what to do with the others?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 21, 2009 04:09 AM (ucxC/)

56 Interesting article. However, I must go back to chopping wood and siphoning gas at the boatyard. 

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 21, 2009 04:12 AM (kpGB9)

57 Well, you have to admit that it works better that the Large Hadron Collider which was taken out by a bird with a piece of bread.

Posted by: FPC at December 21, 2009 04:16 AM (qZb8X)

58

From what I could see in the article the problem with the trains had something to do with condensation resulting from moving from the cold, dry outside into the warmer tunnel.  Something shorted out?  If so, that seems like a pretty serious design oversight.  It's not like there's every been a year in living memory when norther Europe didn't get fairly chilly outside during winter.

Design errors can happen anywhere, but I love it when the Euros de-pants themselves.  They're such arrogants sonsabitches.  The only thing that would make this more satisfying would have been if the designers were Germans - the most arrogant of all Euro engineers.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at December 21, 2009 04:17 AM (xUM1Q)

59

 What we need are more coal fired, CO2 belching Steam Locomotives..P/A

Set on tracks across the coming ICE!!!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 21, 2009 04:19 AM (kpGB9)

60

The National Science! Foundation has issued a $1.7 million grant over 3 years for undergraduate climate change education, "Climate, Adaptation and Mitigation e-Learning." Materials will be posted on a Peer Reviewed! website, The Encyclopedia of Earth. They don't give away much in the title, do they?

The beast has 7 heads and 7 tails, and each time you strike one off...

They don't have to convince you. They have your children all day long, and you pay them to do this.  

Posted by: comatus at December 21, 2009 04:23 AM (/VEEI)

61 Since when is "condensation" a problem when things warm up?  The story sounds like BS.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 21, 2009 04:28 AM (/Ft4q)

62 Now that their tree ring and ice core fraud has been exposed the lying cockholsters are trying for a new indicator. Now get this.....

squid sightings off the coast of Alaska. 

These people must believe that the public is totally stupid.

Well....maybe 52%

Posted by: Vic at December 21, 2009 04:29 AM (QrA9E)

63

 Since when is "condensation" a problem when things warm up? 

Uhm..when it is pre-mature?

Or was that a real question?

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 21, 2009 04:30 AM (kpGB9)

64 Vic..I love squid. I could eat that shit, and bacon, 24/7. A story about roaming pigs ringing random doorbells is in the same category. Nothing but GOOD.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 21, 2009 04:33 AM (kpGB9)

65 We're putting it all back together, people -- Gondwanaland will live once again!!!

Posted by: The Party to Reunite Gondwanaland at December 21, 2009 04:39 AM (DrB2V)

66 The Party to Reunite Gondwanaland ...I'll kick in a few bucks to be an at large ambassador. Anything to get a diplomatic drivers license!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 21, 2009 04:46 AM (kpGB9)

67 If you haven't frozen them yet, perhaps you would like to dip your balls in this. Mmm! Frozen Eurotrash on a stick.

Posted by: frosted fluffy at December 21, 2009 04:48 AM (4Kl5M)

68 67 If you haven't frozen them yet, perhaps you would like to dip your balls in this.

Mmm! Frozen Eurotrash on a stick.

Eet ees orribal!!!  Ve could not get into ze Deesco last night!

Posted by: EuroTrash Weenie at December 21, 2009 04:51 AM (DrB2V)

69 Something like only 3% of the ocean surface has been explored.

I have a strange suspicion that the remaining 97% looks quite similar to the first 3%.


Posted by: Dan F at December 21, 2009 04:51 AM (nyFP6)

70 Heh, heh, heh.  The best part is, the Democrats want us to have a rail system just like Europe's.  For any who are left after being snuffed by Obamacare.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at December 21, 2009 04:58 AM (PZLW0)

71 Sorry, #70 second sentence should read ..."For any of those who are left after us undesirables are being snuffed by Obamacare."

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at December 21, 2009 05:00 AM (PZLW0)

72 All of this snow and sub zero temperatures must be the result of global warming! Maybe Algore can write a poem about the Chunnel Train.

Posted by: TheQuietman at December 21, 2009 05:01 AM (1Jaio)

73 DC Needs more snow, the people are safer when they are shutdown.

Posted by: Acer Laptops at December 21, 2009 05:05 AM (xCBQ4)

74
Is the eurotrain made by AirBus?

Posted by: Dang Straights at December 21, 2009 05:07 AM (Haq+B)

75

DC Needs more snow, the people are safer when they are shutdown...

Funny how police stats bear that out. Take Maines CCP's and cold weather kept their murder rate to like 12 last year. And 3 were by guns, of people known to the victim.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 21, 2009 05:12 AM (kpGB9)

76 A ...solid... B+

Posted by: Pete at December 21, 2009 05:52 AM (d6XEI)

77 Am I the only one who sees irony in the term "Hockey Stick"?

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 21, 2009 05:52 AM (BFqyO)

78 Old Sailor: take your cold beer onto a warm beach. Water will condense from the warm air onto the cold cans/bottles. If you leave it for a while, they'll warm up and dry out again, but if you were the kind of person to leave cold beer unconsumed, you wouldn't be posting here, would you? So if Reactionary's report is true, what happened was, the train went into the tunnel; the engineers noticed that the beer was cold; they drank the beer; and they don't remember what happened next but apparently the train didn't move.

Posted by: Jerry at December 21, 2009 05:58 AM (7Ahkq)

79 I'm liking how Purple Avenger thinks. Bring on the UP cab forwards.

Posted by: Have Blue at December 21, 2009 06:09 AM (mV+es)

80 Wow... 

The Euro engineers couldn't anticipate condensation?  The sad part is. I'm not really surprised.  I feel bad for those people who have been spoon fed the AGW BULLSHIT only to freeze in a tunnel. 

Something in the back of my head is telling me there is more to this than poor design...

Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 21, 2009 06:10 AM (x4S2a)

81 @ 15  Re RoHS

YES!  Thank you!  FINALLY!   I have been saying this for years.  RoHS solder is GARBAGE.  Every single engineer I speak with agrees, but for some reason we are forced to use this fake solder that WILL FAIL.  I can't imagine what kind of crisis this will cause.  Never mind home PCs, but air traffic control equipment, and the like all use this crap.  Stupid  Eurons

Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 21, 2009 06:19 AM (x4S2a)

82 torabora at 39 - They were probably burning the reall, really soft coal that is mined in parts of Germany. The stuff is hardly better than well aged peat.

Posted by: Have Blue at December 21, 2009 06:21 AM (mV+es)

83  I think that the P.A. hit the nail on the head ( post # 15 ) The RoHS (restriction  of hazardous substances) regulations, have completely destroyed the reliability of  thousands of critical electronic devices. This is an example of what happens when envirionmentilists, attorneys, and bureaurocrats ( whom have absolutely no engineering background ) mandate to electrical engineers how to design their products. The RoHS now boasts of having 25,000 employees, and 1000 labratories to harass manufacturers with. This is the same type of  mindset that destroyed the spaceshuttle Chalanger, killing all our hero astronauts aboard, and eventully dooming the entire shuttle program, when they halted the use of freon as the blowing agent for the insulation on the shuttle fuel tanks.

Posted by: Kevin at December 21, 2009 06:33 AM (SKrsq)

84 Libtards constantly outsmart themselves.  The only problem is they usually take several lives away and don't give a shit.  Just as long as it's 'green'.

Jesus, God in Heaven  I am starting a list of words I don't ever want to fucking hear again when the Dems get the shoe in the ass they so deserve.

GREEN is right at the top of that VERY long list.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 21, 2009 06:45 AM (x4S2a)

85 B.T.W. whe is the last time that anyone has heard anything about "the hole in the ozone layer" since its been replaced by "carbon emitions", and global warming?

Posted by: Kevin at December 21, 2009 06:46 AM (SKrsq)

86

I've heard that water is densest at 4C.  Thus, water that cold sinks to the bottom, displacing any water there which might not be quite so cold/dense.

If this were not the case, the oceans would freeze solid from thebottom up.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at December 21, 2009 06:50 AM (d0ih6)

87 Lol, so CNN says Sarah Palin wins "Lie of the Year" for saying seniors will have to stand in front of Obama's Death Panels (which was actually a true statement).

To be fair, it's not going to be that personal.  You don't get to show up and plead. Your doctor just looks at the list of what he's allowed to do to you and says, "Sorry, the unelected panel of non-physician bureaucrats says I can euthanize you or send you home with some aspirin."

I'd prefer the panels, you might get some women who feel bad after seeing your grandkids cry and let you have the pacemaker.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 21, 2009 06:51 AM (6USny)

88 And theres no AL GORE of GREENPEACE wackos theres to use their HOT AIR to warm things up

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 21, 2009 06:59 AM (rQCEd)

89 Every single engineer I speak with agrees, but for some reason we are forced to use this fake solder that WILL FAIL.

That is actually the goal of the eco-weanies. The eco movement is made up of three types of idiots. The real "concerned eco-idiots" who actually believe the bullshit is the smallest part of the overall group. The communists pushing fascism/comunism make up the largest part, however a significant portion are the luddite anarchists who want to see civilization collapse.

Every now and then the communists throws the anarchists a bone like the phony solder issue.

Posted by: Vic at December 21, 2009 07:00 AM (QrA9E)

90

Theesa train stuck! Meesa cold, Ani!

LOL'ed.

Literally.

Posted by: Dubious at December 21, 2009 07:41 AM (z4ZZc)

91

And earlier and larger eruption of Krakatoa in 535AD is probably responsible for a period known as "The Dark Ages".

You mean, "exacerbated the catastrophic effects of the dysgenic fertility which had already led to the collapse of the Roman Empire a century before".

Tenney Frank is your friend.

Posted by: Dubious at December 21, 2009 07:46 AM (z4ZZc)

92

The real "concerned eco-idiots" who actually believe the bullshit is the smallest part of the overall group. The communists pushing fascism/comunism make up the largest part, however a significant portion are the luddite anarchists who want to see civilization collapse.

You're making a big mistake in assuming that there's a dime's worth of difference amongst the lot of 'em.

They're all nihilists whose goal is the eradication of the species Homo sapiens.

And when they're done with Homo sapiens, they'll turn their ire on all the other species, and they won't stop until Mother Earth is as barren as the surface of the moon.

Posted by: Dubious at December 21, 2009 07:49 AM (z4ZZc)

93 Posted by: Nike air max 90 shoe at December 21, 2009 11:08 AM (QWKua)

Wow, this guy's almost as insightful as our friend laptop-battery. Nike air max 90 shoe for co-blogger!

Posted by: Angry Beaver at December 21, 2009 08:00 AM (TwoVD)

94 83  I think that the P.A. hit the nail on the head ( post # 15 ) The RoHS (restriction  of hazardous substances) regulations, have completely destroyed the reliability of  thousands of critical electronic devices. This is an example of what happens when envirionmentilists, attorneys, and bureaurocrats ( whom have absolutely no engineering background ) mandate to electrical engineers how to design their products. The RoHS now boasts of having 25,000 employees, and 1000 labratories to harass manufacturers with. This is the same type of  mindset that destroyed the spaceshuttle Chalanger, killing all our hero astronauts aboard, and eventully dooming the entire shuttle program, when they halted the use of freon as the blowing agent for the insulation on the shuttle fuel tanks.

Had to do some plumbing for my sis out in LaLay -- borrowed my bro-in-law's gear, but had to buy some solder...what a frickin' shock that was!!!  The RoHS shit is just that...shit.  Biggest PITA plumbing I've ever done...the solder just would not flow properly...found an old hardware store with 50/50pb on the shelf -- finished the job; like butta'!

Posted by: billygoat at December 21, 2009 08:00 AM (DrB2V)

95 Every single engineer I speak with agrees, but for some reason we are forced to use this fake solder that WILL FAIL.

I had some ideas a couple of days ago on how to deal with this RoHS crap that I need to kick around with our materials guy next time I talk with him.  We may be able to solve the whisker problem with a post processing step that "redesigns" the first few microns of the solder surface to suppress the ability of whiskers to start forming.

Obviously it will increase cost considerably...which would be good for us ;->

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 21, 2009 08:09 AM (7b3Vx)

96 My bad...... Post # 83 I ment to say Space Shuttle Columbia V Space Shuttle Challanger I am sorry for the miissprint , however may the Heros of  both of those missions be remembered  foreever, and R.I.P. .They truly exemplifyed what Americans are capable of , and have acomplished for our country  

Posted by: Kevin at December 21, 2009 09:31 AM (SKrsq)

97 Isn't it time to now fit Gore with GPS so we can predict the weather with better accuracy?

Posted by: karenm at December 21, 2009 10:03 AM (n5ruu)

98 AL GORE and LIAR    LUDICRIS,INCIDIOUS,AWFUL,REDICULOUS

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 21, 2009 10:33 AM (GZJmf)

99 USA TODAY has an article (page 8A of course) about the Chunnel Tunnel failure. Quote "Acute weather conditions in northern France, which has seen its worst wintry weather in years."  They simply cannot bring themselves to use the word COLD. 

Posted by: mystry at December 21, 2009 10:43 AM (kmgIE)

100 Also, quote "The engineers on board have recommended strongly that we make some modifications to the trains on snow shields to stop snow being ingested into the power car."  You mean to tell me that it does not snow more than a inch at a time in Paris or London?  They better start getting ready for Global Cooling.  Global Warming... Heh.

Posted by: mystry at December 21, 2009 10:50 AM (kmgIE)

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