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December 21, 2009

There's a Senate Election Next Month, You Know [someone]
— Open Blog

So, Massachusetts-area morons, are you all volunteering for Scott Brown's Senate campaign? Because as far as I can tell from hundreds of miles off, this may be the best shot at a GOP victory there in our lifetimes:

(1) Good, likable candidate
(2) Midyear off-election with no incumbent
(3) Angry, anti-Democratic current now even in the bluest states
(4) Third-party candidate on the ballot named "Kennedy"

If the GOP manages a pickup here, it will do much to torpedo the rest of Barry's agenda. And no matter what, going out to fight is much more satisfying than predicting doom from the comfort of your couch.

Posted by: Open Blog at 10:28 AM | Comments (104)
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1 What are the polls saying?

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 21, 2009 10:29 AM (0GFWk)

2
Yep, the Kennedy on the ballot could be big.

Posted by: sockpuppetwing plover at December 21, 2009 10:30 AM (jVldi)

3 I'm sure the Democratic legislature will just OUTLAW any but Democratic candidates. After all, you don't like a law, JUST CHANGE IT!

Posted by: GarandFan at December 21, 2009 10:32 AM (ZQBnQ)

4 Ugh. Next month is too late. Still...does he have a hope in hell of winning?

Posted by: joncelli at December 21, 2009 10:32 AM (RD7QR)

5 C'mon Mass... time to cowboy up and stop being the left's butt-boy.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at December 21, 2009 10:34 AM (qPu42)

6 Maybe it's time to bring up the Fells Acres case again?

Posted by: someone2 at December 21, 2009 10:34 AM (/hia0)

Umm..you want we should actually give money to a Republican senate candidate in Massa-two-shits??

Seriously??

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at December 21, 2009 10:35 AM (AnTyA)

8
Coakley is a dunce, but her campaign managers are smart. They insisted on Kennedy, the independent, to be at the debates.

Now that could hurt Coakley by giving exposure to the "Kennedy" in the race. But this is what the Coakley team is thinking: We'll use Kennedy like Deval Patrick used Mihos in the gubernatorial race in 2006.

Mihos, an independent, spent the debates attacking the Republican, Healy. Healy was trying to attack the radical leftwing Deval Patrick but Mihos was relentless and kept her busy. So Coakley is hoping Kennedy goes after Brown during the debates.

Posted by: Posted by at December 21, 2009 10:36 AM (jVldi)

9 Indeed, I am.

Posted by: DocJ at December 21, 2009 10:36 AM (dt6br)

10 Volunteering for Scott, that is.

Posted by: DocJ at December 21, 2009 10:37 AM (dt6br)

11 If the GOP manages a pickup here, it will do much to torpedo the rest of Barry's agenda. And no matter what, going out to fight is much more satisfying than predicting doom from the comfort of your couch.

The devil you say!

Posted by: EeyorePundit at December 21, 2009 10:38 AM (T0NGe)

12 C'mon Mass... time to cowboy up and stop being the left's butt-boy.

Now now. Mathachutheth. likth being ouwr butt-boy

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at December 21, 2009 10:39 AM (6Nv5B)

13 More on Fells Acre's:

Posted by: someone2 at December 21, 2009 10:39 AM (/hia0)

14 Mihos, an independent, spent the debates attacking the Republican, Healy. Healy was trying to attack the radical leftwing Deval Patrick but Mihos was relentless and kept her busy. So Coakley is hoping Kennedy goes after Brown during the debates.

Ah, the Ross Perot method. A tried and true method since '92. Didn't work with Corzine, did it?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 21, 2009 10:39 AM (T0NGe)

15 I'm donating. F*&k that, I'll donate, move to Massachusetts and establish myself as a resident under 20 different identities so I can vote too. I don't think it's crazy and it would at least deprive the bumf*&ks in the Senate of a super majority till the 2010 races.

Besides it beats my original plan, which was to gnaw the faces off every liberal I can find until I get so poisoned from the toxicity that my stomach has to be pumped.

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at December 21, 2009 10:42 AM (gLNLT)

16 Considering this is a blog that employs lefty-loving shit-for-brains asshat Gabriel Malor as a writer, I'll take any candidate endorsement under advisement.

If I agree with the guy, I'll send him a few dollars, but if the blog is endorsing him merely because he's a Repub, screw yourselves. Let the Dem's have their Blue Dogs---a lot of good they did for conservatives anyway----I want guys I agree with, not guys based on which gang they're in.

Posted by: lurker at December 21, 2009 10:43 AM (oWSqS)

17 Lincoln Adams, FTW.

Posted by: lurker at December 21, 2009 10:44 AM (oWSqS)

18 lurker, you forget the effect of seeing Massachusetts moonbat heads explode. Money well spent, I say!

Posted by: someone2 at December 21, 2009 10:46 AM (/hia0)

Masshole here. Scott Brown is the real deal. He has a slim chance to win.

That being said, the SEIU is pounding the airwaves for Coakley and has a huge ground game for her.

I'm gonna vote. I live in a predominantly red area of Mass (believe it or not)... dunno if they have enough people over there, or what. I'll look into it.

Posted by: Truman North at December 21, 2009 10:48 AM (e8YaH)

20 I'll donate - anyone else donating?

Posted by: B+ at December 21, 2009 10:48 AM (hIOnV)

21 MA resident here.

Mad as hell, and doing my part.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 21, 2009 10:49 AM (x4S2a)

22 Thanks lurker!

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at December 21, 2009 10:49 AM (gLNLT)

23 (4) Third-party candidate on the ballot named "Kennedy"

How serious a candidate is this Kennedy?
He's running as a Libertarian but is he libertarian or liberaltarian?

Posted by: Rocks at December 21, 2009 10:49 AM (Q1lie)

24 Former MA resident. It'd be nice to see some Lefty heads asplode next to the Charles.

Posted by: Techie at December 21, 2009 10:51 AM (zbH+i)

25 There are only a couple of real libertarians in the whole state. Barbara Anderson comes to mind... none of them are in elected office. My guess is he's a Dopeatarian

Posted by: Truman North at December 21, 2009 10:52 AM (e8YaH)

A Massachusetts Republican? Is that like a NY Republican (Dede Scozzafava)? I'm truly beginning to believe that our political system, from the president's office on down to the election process is completely corrupted. I'm not feeling too optomistic for my country right now. Maybe later. But not now.

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at December 21, 2009 10:52 AM (eHeRS)

27 A torpedo in the middle of Barry's agenda would be a good thing. It would have a devastating effect on the clout of the Democrat party for the next 20 some odd years. Maybe, there will be rollback of the damage that has already been done to the economic structure of this country. I for one, would like to see a torpedo in the guts of the MSM too

Posted by: Stan25 at December 21, 2009 10:52 AM (N1Gru)

28 You tell 'em lurker. That's what's gonna stop Obama's joyride through the US Code.

Throwing away a winnable election because someone might not be the second coming of Barry Goldwater.

Heck of a strategy.

Also, I don't think you called Gabe enough names to get your point across. Why not add a few more for emphasis?

Posted by: Techie at December 21, 2009 10:53 AM (zbH+i)

29 <<12 C'mon Mass... time to cowboy up and stop being the left's butt-boy.

Now now. Mathachutheth. likth being ouwr butt-boy

-Bawney Fwank>>

Ugh. Not remotely funny. And worse it is the kind of drivel trying to be passed off as humor that will prompt Ace to write a 15,000 word essay on why you shouldn't attempt edgy humor. The short answer: it is not edgy, nor is it humor.

Posted by: scofflaw at December 21, 2009 10:54 AM (fp9yM)

30 I say good luck in Mass., but if there ever was a chance, special election with a Dems split is probably it. However, my guess that chance is very slim, just 12% of Mass. voters are registered republican.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 21, 2009 10:55 AM (DIYmd)

31 Fortunately, I exited that leftist Commonwealth as soon as I was able to.

I remember one time going down to vote in Boston (for GWB), and when I arrived at the polling place, I had to register. The clerk looked down at the registry list for my name and scanning down (upside down) this is what I saw on the page with my name::

D D D D D D D D D D D D D D R D D D D D D

Posted by: looking closely at December 21, 2009 10:56 AM (PwGfd)

32 I'm no pollster, and the data on this is apparently sparse.

As far as his positions, the guy is an Army JAG Lt. Colonel who's running against Obamacare, Cap&Tax, and amnesty. Dede he ain't.

Posted by: someone at December 21, 2009 10:57 AM (njJQD)

33 #30, see my #31

It may be 12% in the state overall, but I suspect that many (most?) of the Republicans are in Western Mass.

Posted by: looking closely at December 21, 2009 10:57 AM (PwGfd)

You had me right up until 'GOP candidate'. They're part of the problem, not the solution. Yeah, yeah... a pox on both their houses and everything. Just color me completely and totally unmotivated to support anything GOP related.

Maybe my tune will change later. Right now, I'm not the demographic the GOP is going after, nor is the GOP something I wish to encourage.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 21, 2009 10:59 AM (pZEar)

35 southeastern Mass, between Fall River/New Bedford on one end and Worcester on the other end, is about 50-50. The way the state is Gerrymandered, though, it's impossible for us to send even a single Republican to the House. The only district where it's even feasible is the 3rd, and the goddamned Republicans haven't contested it in six years.

Posted by: Truman North at December 21, 2009 11:00 AM (e8YaH)

36 My brother lives in that stink hole state and he voted for The Ace via write-in on an absentee ballot.

Posted by: Winston at December 21, 2009 11:03 AM (FggW0)

37 From his sight he's seems conservative on fiscal issue and immigration.
He's pro-choice but has no problem with regulations limiting it.
He's probably iffy on the environment but I don't anybody would vote for cap and trade at this point.

For Mass the guy is Barry Goldwater. He has cute daughters too.

Posted by: Rocks at December 21, 2009 11:04 AM (Q1lie)

38 #31: It may be 12% in the state overall, but I suspect that many (most?) of the Republicans are in Western Mass.

You'd think wrong - unless by "Western Mass." you mean "Not Boston". Anything west of Worcester (Springfield, Amherst, Pitsfield, etc.) is a total write-off for the GOP. Moonbat central, that. GOP areas in MA (such as they are), generally speaking, populate the suburban beltway between I-95 and I-495.

Posted by: DocJ at December 21, 2009 11:06 AM (dt6br)

Giving financial support to this is like playing powerball, a triumph of hope over mathematics. I play every week. That and the possibility of moonbat heads exploding, no matter how remote, money well spent indeed.

Posted by: Adobe Walls at December 21, 2009 11:07 AM (lUiZg)

40 Ah, eff it. We're doomed.

Posted by: dude on the couch at December 21, 2009 11:07 AM (su3hy)

He has cute daughters too.

Oh! Well! That changes everything.

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at December 21, 2009 11:07 AM (eHeRS)

42 Its a real quandary that I am in. I want to stop the liberals/socialists/marxists/asshats at all cost, but I don't really want the Republican party (as it currently stands to win either). All I see is bouncing it back to the GOP so they can screw it up for the leftists to finish the takeover. The GOP is damn lucky we have the sense of preservation at the moment. They get to rent my vote this election cycle, but I'll be damned if I continue to vote for them until they change their ways. (Hey look I get an easy no vote on an extremly unpopular bill as the opposition party doesn't count as changing their ways)

Posted by: Just Another Poster at December 21, 2009 11:09 AM (NgoAe)

43 What about Mittens. Would he fall on the sword?

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at December 21, 2009 11:10 AM (U0jzi)

44 I was in the Berkshires in Massachusetts only a few weeks ago. You could tell the whole county was liberal because nobody smiled.

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at December 21, 2009 11:10 AM (gLNLT)

1. Get the list of people who voted in the last Mass. GOP primary.

2. Call them one-by-one and identify those willing to identify their conservative-minded neighbors.

3. Create a database and map the results.

4. Select block captains and charge them with getting their conservative neighbors out to vote on Election Day.

5. Win.

The best thing about this technique is, it works. The second-best thing is, it requires almost no money. (No yard signs, media buys, etc.)

He who has the most votes on Election Day wins.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at December 21, 2009 11:10 AM (2QFX4)

Two things:

1 - Yes I am already working on behalf of Scott Brown, and yes he has a chance, no matter how slim....it is a chance, and likely the best chance any Republican has had or will have in years to snag a Massachusetts Senate seat

2 - I am also working on behalf of Bill Hudak, a Republican running (already) against John Tierney, in MA - 6. Somehow I think (if Bill can get ahead at all in fundraising) he has a somewhat better chance of beating Tierney than Brown does of beating Coakley...

( www.billhudakforcongress.com )

If Brown manages to beat Coakley....I think Hudak has an excellent chance of defeating Tierney....

So...for all you AoSHq morons and moronettes:

In order - 1) help Brown all you can 2) help Hudak all you can

Posted by: steve at December 21, 2009 11:10 AM (nd0uY)

47 Steele should be camped in Mass.....
Every Repub in Mass..should be hitting the streets with a bucket for donations.
Sarah, please Sarah bring notice to this election........

Posted by: non_dhimmie at December 21, 2009 11:11 AM (zACGu)

48 a reader named Melodic Metal... From MA? \m/

Posted by: Maloderous at December 21, 2009 11:12 AM (wL8I+)

49
Didn't work with Corzine, did it?

No, it didn't. But it should have. I mean , the smart money was on Corzine to win. We got lucky in NJ.

Posted by: Posted by at December 21, 2009 11:12 AM (jVldi)

50 For those not in Massachusetts, lets flood him with $s.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 21, 2009 11:12 AM (B5cM9)

51 Please. We're talking about a state that continued to send Teddy back to the Senate for 40 years after he committed murder. Drunk. And then told the most unbelievable lies about it. Would I like to see Brown elected? Absolutely. Do I think it will happen? No.

Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2009 11:14 AM (9Wv2j)

52 I'm hoping for a Patrick Fitzgerald. Illinois residents will remember him as the Senator who knew he didn't have a ghost of a chance winning re-election, so he spent his time trying to make the state as uncorrupt as possible for future candidates.

It didn't work, but I've quoted Jayne's mom here before - "if you can't do something smart, do something right".

Posted by: Zimriel at December 21, 2009 11:15 AM (N8KrH)

Do you give any credit for the GOP not having one vote for the Senate's Obamacare? You need to encourgage more of this instead of damning them along with the Democrats. It appears you're the type of person that will never be happy. That's got to suck.

Posted by: polynikes at December 21, 2009 03:08 PM (m2CN7)

I do give them credit where its due, but then I read shit like this that leaves me doing the *facepalm* yet once again.

These f'ckers never learn.

Posted by: Obersturmbannführer Blazer at December 21, 2009 11:15 AM (+FzLa)

54 PETER Fitzgerald, I meant.

Posted by: Zimriel at December 21, 2009 11:16 AM (N8KrH)

55 "You tell 'em lurker. That's what's gonna stop Obama's joyride through the US Code.

Throwing away a winnable election because someone might not be the second coming of Barry Goldwater.

Heck of a strategy.

Also, I don't think you called Gabe enough names to get your point across. Why not add a few more for emphasis?
Posted by: Techie"

---that's right, fucker: keep concentrating on which team is winning, not whether either embodies your values. Elect people whose only link to you is party affiliation. that's the fucking ticket. Because a MA repub will really stop NotMyPresident in his quest to ruin the nation.

Here's a few names for you: gang-warfare loving RINO-humping dingbat. Malor's a faggot, fuck him.

Posted by: lurker at December 21, 2009 11:17 AM (oWSqS)

56
For those wondering about the variety or type of libertarian Kennedy is...

he's a cocksucking libertarian.

Hope that helps.

Posted by: Posted by at December 21, 2009 11:17 AM (jVldi)

Oh! Well! That changes everything.

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at December 21, 2009 03:07 PM (eHeRS)

I know, that's why I mentioned it. Are you for electing ugly people or something?

That's how we got Barney Frank and Waxman you know.

Ugly people are liberal. The science is settled.

Posted by: Rocks at December 21, 2009 11:17 AM (Q1lie)

58 Cautiously Pessimistic at December 21, 2009 02:59 PM (pZEar)

Do you give any credit for the GOP not having one vote for the Senate's Obamacare?

Nope. The GOP voted for the bill when they let it out of committee. And if the bill hadn't had 60 dems to vote for it, you can bet there would have been a GOP member willing to. As it is, they just get the bill going up to a speed where they can't stop it any more, then beat their chests about how horrible it all is, and how they would definitely do something about it if only they could.

As for being happy, I don't get my happiness from the political theater, and it's a good thing, too. And I get my hope from religion, not government. Thanks for the concern, though.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 21, 2009 11:17 AM (pZEar)

59 Lurker, which loser blog(s) did you get banned from, that you are now here sharing your bullshit with us?

Posted by: Peaches at December 21, 2009 11:19 AM (9Wv2j)

60
Kennedy will siphon the pot-head vote and the confused-old-people's vote who think they're voting for Ted Kennedy again.

Posted by: Posted by at December 21, 2009 11:19 AM (jVldi)

61
"He said his biggest political heroes are Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin, but his contemporary idol is US Representative Ron Paul, a Texas Republican and 2008 presidential candidate."

Posted by: Posted by at December 21, 2009 11:20 AM (jVldi)

62
"Kennedy says he voted in the last three presidential elections: for Al Gore in 2000, because he preferred his stance on the environment, for George W. Bush in 2004, because he did not want to oust a president in wartime, and for Bob Barr in 2008, because he is a Libertarian. In the stateÂ’s special Senate primary last week, he took a Democratic Party ballot and said he voted for City Year cofounder Alan Khazei, who finished third."

Posted by: Posted by at December 21, 2009 11:21 AM (jVldi)

63 lurker 56, not cool. Not cool at all.

Posted by: Zimriel at December 21, 2009 11:21 AM (N8KrH)

64 Hey everyone! It's the winter solstice today. The shortest day of the year. I demand you to celebrate.

Posted by: Gaia at December 21, 2009 11:21 AM (eHeRS)

Sufolk University in Boston had a Nov 12th poll. Sample size 600. Coakley 58%; Brown 27%. Not exactly competitive. If you have extra funds to throw around, by all means send $ to Brown. If not, save it for more competitive races (PA, CT, DE, etc). IMHO

JoeRiverside

Posted by: JoeRiverside at December 21, 2009 11:22 AM (+c4JO)

66 Brown's a Paulnut?

Posted by: Rocks at December 21, 2009 11:23 AM (Q1lie)

67 We got ourselves a bona-fide political GENIUS on the wire here, folks.

Posted by: Techie at December 21, 2009 11:23 AM (zbH+i)

68 Oh, Kennedy's a Paulnut.

Posted by: Rocks at December 21, 2009 11:24 AM (Q1lie)

He said his biggest political heroes are Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin,

Always safe to claim that your political heroes are about 200 years in the past.

Kind of like that girl in high school who had a boyfriend in another state.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at December 21, 2009 11:24 AM (2QFX4)

70
No, the Kennedy in the race is a Ron Paul fan.

Posted by: Posted by at December 21, 2009 11:25 AM (jVldi)

71 Got some acronyms for our "lurker".

GTFO YPOS.

Posted by: Techie at December 21, 2009 11:25 AM (zbH+i)

72 Now I understand the rush to cram ObamaCare down our throats before Christmas.

Posted by: t-bird at December 21, 2009 11:25 AM (FcR7P)

Always safe to claim that your political heroes are about 200 years in the past.

Kind of like that girl in high school who had a boyfriend in another state.

Or the beauty contestant who says she's for world peace.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 21, 2009 11:26 AM (pZEar)

74 Don't you guys worry about Lurker.
He'll be on board.
Just not in time to accomplish anything.

Posted by: RayJ at December 21, 2009 11:26 AM (//Bcg)

75
Hey lurker, lemme gas, in a past blog life you were Kilgore Trout. If you hate this place so much because it doesn't fit your impossible standards of purity, why don't you just back out of the same door you came in before your thrown out on the sidewalk kicking and screaming?

Posted by: Obersturmbannführer Blazer at December 21, 2009 11:27 AM (+FzLa)

76 I live in massholechusetts. The leftists here are beyond any hope. Truth, logic, reason, common sense? None of that matters to the idiots in this state. Coakley will be elected.

Posted by: bowel movement at December 21, 2009 11:33 AM (Fd5yK)

77 hey lurker, wanted to say welcome, and enjoy your several hours' stay until the ban goes through. Take care, asshole!

Posted by: ace at December 21, 2009 11:46 AM (w1E+E)

78 ps suck the barbed cock of satan, pps have a nice day of me ass-blasting your mom all day.

Posted by: ace at December 21, 2009 11:48 AM (w1E+E)

79 Lurker needs to take its meds.

Posted by: nikkolai at December 21, 2009 11:48 AM (U0lNn)

80 Ace bringing the big stick. Nice.

Posted by: nikkolai at December 21, 2009 11:50 AM (U0lNn)

81 at some point it's not even about homophobia pr racism. It's just about these emotional spastics and internet hard guys just basically being the "party asshole" demanding all the wrong kind of attention as they dip their dicks in the onion dip. All I hear with these impulse-control-disorder half-retards is Steve Carrell from Anchorman shouting "LOUD VOICES!" because that's the only thing he picks up in an argument.

Posted by: ace at December 21, 2009 11:50 AM (w1E+E)

82 as I said the other day: Welcome to the internet, where even the most pathetic cringing sissy will tell you all day how even his cock has thirty confirmed kills. Oh my, I just never weary of hearing how hard-ass some of these very *emotional* men are.

Posted by: ace at December 21, 2009 11:54 AM (w1E+E)

83 I wonder how much of that type of thing is driven by moby astroturf? When I see stuff like that crap, I gotta wonder if it's just being posted there to screen cap and show on Kos or wherever. On the other hand, yeah, there are assholes out there that haven't learned not to throw their poopies.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 21, 2009 11:57 AM (pZEar)

84 If Lurker is a pathetic cringing sissy, then what is erg? A paathetic cringing sissy and sucker of the barbed cock of satan?

Posted by: nikkolai at December 21, 2009 11:58 AM (U0lNn)

85 I live in Mass and I'm doing what I can for Scott Brown!

Posted by: zeeman at December 21, 2009 11:59 AM (52kt/)

86 Gee, thanks Ace. I feel so much better, knowing you're defending the concern troll known as Gabriel Malor from being hurt! Now go shill for anyone with an R in front of their name, regardless of what they believe in.

Posted by: lurker at December 21, 2009 12:24 PM (oWSqS)

87 Please. We're talking about a state that continued to send Teddy back to the Senate for 40 years after he committed murder. This is also the state that kept sending Republicans to the governor's office for 16 years straight, 1990-2006. Plenty of people here are ticked off at the Dems for their mismanagement of the state.

Posted by: fluffy, masshole at December 21, 2009 12:25 PM (4Kl5M)

JusT donated $10. The donation form included a place to write who referred me. I said "The assholes in DC who voted for healthcare".

Posted by: TC at December 21, 2009 12:26 PM (QXKjZ)

89 I'll send him a few bucks. If I can do that, then the "Good" people in MA can get off their asses and vote.

Posted by: mghorning at December 21, 2009 12:40 PM (aTEpF)

90 89 Please. We're talking about a state that continued to send Teddy back to the Senate for 40 years after he committed murder. This is also the state that kept sending Republicans to the governor's office for 16 years straight, 1990-2006. They won originally because they ran Weld, a true-blue RINO, against Silber, who was a good deal more conservative than just about any Repub has ever been here in Taxachusetts. The faintest whiff of conservatism here is like the scent of garlic to vampires. A third of the electorate likes it, the rest run away screaming.

Posted by: Gasoline Gus at December 21, 2009 12:46 PM (qExz3)

91 lurker 88: Even if you think Malor is a 'concern troll' - and I tend to that opinion myself - you don't get to use slurs which invoke being burned at the stake. You didn't just score an own goal; you walked up to the ref and pissed on his shoes.

Posted by: Zimriel at December 21, 2009 01:03 PM (N8KrH)

92 Oh, well, maybe someday I'll learn how to format ...

Posted by: Gasoline Gus at December 21, 2009 01:03 PM (qExz3)

93 Gus 92 You are correct with your points. Moonbats do tend to scatter if the smell conservatism. Some of us are hoping that Deval & co have beaten some sense into the electorate. We did not get to choose the arena for this fight, but here we are. Vote Scott Brown and make a lefty cry.

Posted by: fluffy, masshole at December 21, 2009 01:17 PM (4Kl5M)

94 Actually the few conservatives around here in Delahuntland are hard-core; they have to be. I am always a bit surprised at the number of contractors' radios tuned to Rush which I hear when I walk around the area. And nobody, it seems, likes the "Devaluator" any more, or at least is willing to admit it.

Posted by: Gasoline Gus at December 21, 2009 01:47 PM (qExz3)

95 A (possibly dumb) question..

Will Massachusetts still get taxed like ther rest of the country even though they have their own health insurance system?

Might be kinda funny if Cadillac plans mandated by the state of Mass are penalized with Harry Reid's 40% tax! Uh.. might just be a good talking point for a Repub candidate as well!

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at December 21, 2009 01:48 PM (tDm8K)

96 Massachusetts is a weird state whose conservatives are akin to black conservatives. They are few but they are very independent, thick skinned, and battle hardened.   They can articulate the inanities of liberalism better than anyone.

Seasoned vets such as Howie Carr takes no prisoners and makes national convervative media figures like Hannity and O'Reilly look like amateurs.

Obama modeled his campaign on the "Yes We Can" rhetoric of Governor Duval Patrick, who (surprise) has turned out to be a complete incompetent.   Mass voters are pretty pissed at an increase in sales tax and the reluctance to take down tolls that payed off their highways in the early 1980s. So the atmosphere is ripe for big electoral churn.

The problem is that the Republican party, organizationally has atrophied over the past twenty years and does not have the clout that it did when it ushered Bill Weld into the governor's office to fix up the mess left by Michael Dukakis. And candidates like Scott Brown are between a rock and a hard-place to get enough local support, to get a big enough bounce in the polls to establish the credibility that will attract national money.   Up till now, Brown feigns ignorance of Sarah Palin and is avoiding courting her support. In Massachusetts, that sort of makes sense, at least until the Boston Globe goes under, but if Coakley maintains a big league, he should go rogue and seek out her help.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at December 21, 2009 01:48 PM (EFQfG)

97 Ex-Masshole relocated to Florida here, back in the frozen north until just after New Year's. I'd reiterate everything Mr. Peabody said.

I like Scott Brown and he's no RINO. I'd love to be surprised, but unfortunately I still think he has no chance. But then again...it's a special election...anything's possible.

Posted by: Dave J. at December 21, 2009 02:28 PM (BudKQ)

98 What Taxachusetts needs is a candidate that is conservative, but runs on a platform that will win. Then, once elected and seated, he magically reveals that he is really a conservative who will vote with conservatives.

Before you boo me off the stage, consider that most liberals have to run as a moderate-conservative in order to get elected. They eventually show their true colors (Odammit, for example) and become liberal until the next election cycle. If it works for liberals, why not conservatives?

Posted by: John C at December 21, 2009 02:33 PM (UeU18)

99 100: perhaps, but remember that the lefty rags like the Glob are willing to shill for them all the way. There's nothing that rag wouldn't do for lefty D-rats. Accordingly anyone with the slightest taint of conservatism will be trashed by them; and the righty media (such as they are) won't willingly support anyone who runs as a lefty. So it wouldn't work for a conservative around here, unfortunately.

Posted by: Gasoline Gus at December 21, 2009 04:32 PM (qExz3)

100 I think there are a lot more conservatives here in MA then you guys realize. Brown is not conservative enough to me, and he did say his three favorite presidents of the past century were Reagan, JFK and FDR, and he siad Obama deserved a C+ to Incomplete for his performance so far, he is a hell of a lot better than anything i have seen lately in MA politics, and if we can't get an economic conservative elected at this particular moment in time in the cradle of liberty then I don't know what we'll ever be able to elect. I used to run around and ask people with Kennedy bumper stickers how many people he'd have to kill before they stopped voting for him.

In 2004 we had 4,098,634 registered voters
1,526,716 were Democrats, 532,319 Republicans, 2,000,000 unenrolled.

There were 500K votes for democrats in the primary and about 140,000 for Brown. Democrats had 4 people running for the seat, Brown was virtually uncontested. I think he has a chance, I think many many people in the state are pissed off and they are pissed off at the incumbents, which she is identified as I'd say. It would be great to take away the supermajority from them and then pray the state of Maine burns down.

Posted by: bikeguy65 at December 21, 2009 05:26 PM (Ps/1k)

101 Bikeguy, I suspect that you are being a bit optimistic Here in Delahuntland the general election results generally mirror the state, and they are nearly always 65% D-rat / 35% Repub. You do get a few old-fashioned Yankees, who loathed FDR and aren't any more fond of The One for the same reasons, but they are few compared with, say, the union voters.

Posted by: Gasoline Gus at December 21, 2009 08:38 PM (qExz3)

102 I think this is a decent chance for a pickup. If you compare this election to the CA-10 election last month, there are hopeful signs. Thousands more Democrats turned out in the primaries than Republicans did and there were plenty of doomsayers, and yet we still held the sitting lieutenant governor to a 55-45 win against an unknown in a district that went 65% for Obama.

Considering that Brown is a better candidate and that Mass is about 3 points more Conservative than CA-10, there is certainly reason to think this seat is in play. We just need to get Brown's name recognition up and establish a good ground game.

Posted by: scarlos at December 21, 2009 08:46 PM (h3A7H)

103 ''A good 33% of the state is conservative, but half of those are people who pull the Democratic lever because their great-grandparents did...''

We've got those in Chicago too; their name is Legion.

Illinois has open primaries (we don't register with any particular party; I wish we did) and my experience as a judge of election is that most people don't even know that there's any party out there except the Democrats. During last year's special election (the one replacing Rahmbo) I'd ask each voter if they wanted a Democratic, Republican or Green primary ballot; most of them stared at me as though I'd grown a second head. It seems to be a religious affiliation: they say "I'm a Democrat" the same way they say "I'm a Catholic."

This is understandable in the old folks (like my husband's aunt) who still remember FDR and think of him as the Second Coming, but pretty depressing when applied to anyone else.

Posted by: Annalucia at December 22, 2009 05:21 AM (dW9bf)

104 Congratulations on being on the money, one month ahead of time.

Posted by: Victoria at January 20, 2010 11:23 PM (3sdjL)

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