December 07, 2009

Update: Flight 297's "Hero," Um, Wasn't
— Ace

As I eventually updated (and should have said so from jump street), Captain Savage's account, in which he's picking up cliched allies (the burly Texan who just wants to fix things straight, ma'am) and generally acting every inch the action hero as Muslim malefactors spit B-movie epithets at him ("infidel dog") and behave in manners he realizes are indicators of jihadism because "he's studied" turns out to have been dubious: This blog says that particular passenger missed that leg of his flight.

And if that's true, then he also missed out on putting his "studying" and preparing for just this moment into action. Something he maybe was determined to later cure through an email to a blog.

So, the skepticism on that particular account seems justified. There really was a strong whiff of Mack Bolan action-fantasy wish-fulfillment to that particular account.

On the other hand... Seems the entire flight crew got off the plane and declined the assignment, requiring a replacement crew.

It should also be noted that there are other accounts and other witnesses besides Phil "Fisticuffs" Murphy and his trusty right-hand Dr. Creighton "Tex" Slaughter.

Thanks to Drew for that update.

Posted by: Ace at 08:04 PM | Comments (67)
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1 See, the entire story is bogus then. My longtime friends the peace loving muslims are absolutely no threat to aviation.

Scratch a bullshitting glorified bus driver we call airline pilots and you find a Nirther

Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno, Fighter Pilot & Action Figure at December 07, 2009 08:14 PM (sYxEE)

2 I knew from the look the brown-skinned bastard was givin' me, that this was'nt going to be an ordinary flight. Luckily, I had studied up for just this situation......

Posted by: Dack Stonechin at December 07, 2009 08:19 PM (5M2Wr)

3 Long flight delays often result in crew changes, due to flying time limitations.

Posted by: notropis at December 07, 2009 08:22 PM (0thcq)

4 See, the entire story is bogus then. My longtime friends the peace loving muslims are absolutely no threat to aviation. Scratch a bullshitting glorified bus driver we call airline pilots and you find a Nirther Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno, Fighter Pilot & Action Figure at December 08, 2009 12:14 AM Sadly, this sounds exactly like something he would say nowadays concerning a story like this.

Posted by: Michael in MI at December 07, 2009 08:24 PM (ObTcs)

5 Hmm.  Petruna-Beauchamp-Litton Awards?

Posted by: Jek Porkins (rdb) at December 07, 2009 08:26 PM (i9FLw)

6 Chuck Norris was on Flight 297.  Enough said.

Posted by: Cicero at December 07, 2009 08:30 PM (+AEJn)

7 There's a story from ajc.com, and it's an interesting read.  Let me fisk a little from the meat of the article.

According to AirTran, shortly after 4:40 p.m. on Nov. 17, Flight 297 bound for Houston taxied toward the runway of Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. But before the Boeing 717 made it to the runway, the pilot decided to return the plane to the gate. A flight attendant had apparently asked a male passenger twice to put away a cellphone or camera, but the man had not done so. The flight attendant then took the device from the man.

A 717?  That's new.  Also, who doesn't know about the annoying electronic device ban?

At the gate, the passenger -- who didn't speak English -- and a companion were asked to leave the plane, which they did without incident, the airline reported.

A "companion".  Who also doesn't speak English.  How convenient.  And doesn't know enough about flying that when a flight attendant takes your camera or cellphone they want you to turn it off?  It isn't exactly like he's flying from Atlanta to Riyadh.  You'd think one of the two of them would have figured out Airline Passenger English.

When it was determined the problem was caused by a language barrier, AirTran and Transportation Security Administration officials allowed the man, and 12 others traveling with him, to reboard, and the flight left for Houston a little more than two hours later. Later, officials said the entire incident was the result of a miscommunication.

WHAT!  Now it's gone from 1 guy to 2 guys to 12?  What is it, a soccer team with a coach?

I don't know what the whole truth was here, but it seems to be clear that

(1) There were a bunch of men on the plane.  (Muslims don't often fly with the wimmins.)

(2) At least one was acting like a royal ass enough to turn the plane around.

(3) Passengers were escorted off and brought back on.  This ain't nothing.  The other passengers had to wait for hours, much of it on the tarmac.  I get pissed enough when it happens due to weather.

I think somebody was looking for a Flying Imams-style payday.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 07, 2009 08:33 PM (ItSLQ)

8 Sorry.  I tried to put the quotes in bold face.  But...you know...broken blog.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 07, 2009 08:34 PM (ItSLQ)

9 I think somebody was looking for a Flying Imams-style payday. Posted by: AmishDude at December 08, 2009 12:33 AM Without even reading all the details of the story when it was first reported, that was my first guess about this as well. And I only became more certain about it after I read the details. They probably feel pretty emboldened now after one of their own just mass murdered a bunch of our military members -- in our own country, on our own base -- and in response, the top General simply said we must protect 'diversity' moreso than anything else. This BS will continue until there actually is a (well-deserved) 'backlash'.

Posted by: Michael in MI at December 07, 2009 08:38 PM (ObTcs)

10 Don't look at me.  I was in Scranton.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at December 07, 2009 08:39 PM (vtuZz)

11 Sheiks on a plane, man.  Sheiks on a plane.

Posted by: Jek Porkins (rdb) at December 07, 2009 08:39 PM (i9FLw)

12 There is 0% chance that the general public will ever know the truth.  Perhaps in 25 years..?

Posted by: Rewrite! at December 07, 2009 08:43 PM (d7Px0)

13 And by 'backlash', I don't mean killing Muslims. I mean something akin to banning Muslim clothing as they are doing in other countries, or simply banning Muslims from being counselors in the military or -- even more simply -- just putting Muslims in the military on alert that they are being 'watched' and they better not even think of even looking at us the wrong way or they will be thrown in the brig or a reason will be found to kick their butts out of the military. Whatever the 'backlash', it has to be a message sent that we are no longer putting up with this BS. But I am not holding my breath on any of that happening. If 9/11, John Mohammad & son, recruiter murdered by Muslim and now this Muslim mass murdering our soldiers on our own soil has not woken up this nation, I'm not sure what -- if anything -- will.

Posted by: Michael in MI at December 07, 2009 08:43 PM (ObTcs)

14 The hero is need to paid more effort.

Posted by: Laptop-battery at December 07, 2009 08:45 PM (6TMLu)

15

 

7 Amish Dude

In fairness, did a female stewardess dare confront a Muslim male?!!

He had every right to kill her in the aisle. In his world.

 

Posted by: Rewrite! at December 07, 2009 08:46 PM (d7Px0)

16 Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno, Fighter Pilot & Action Figure at December 08, 2009 12:14 AM

Sadly, this sounds exactly like something he would say nowadays concerning a story like this. Posted by: Michael in MI at December 08, 2009 12:24 AM

Satire needs at least a strong semblance in order to be effective.

Or in the words of Fat Tony D'Amico; "It's funny because it's true!"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2009 08:50 PM (sYxEE)

17   14 The hero is need to paid more effort.

Posted by: Laptop-battery at December 08, 2009 12:45 AM (6TMLu)

Yet again, you splash cold reality into the face of hopeless confusion. Thank you, Laptop Battery.

Posted by: Dack Stonechin at December 07, 2009 08:53 PM (5M2Wr)

18 Boeing 717 = MD-95 = MD-80 = DC-9

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at December 07, 2009 08:54 PM (H7Rlw)

19 14 The hero is need to paid more effort.

Posted by: Laptop-battery at December 08, 2009 12:45 AM (6TMLu)

I love you man!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at December 07, 2009 08:56 PM (H7Rlw)

20 It's humbling. I like to think I have a certain skill, and so many commenters have wisdom and wit, and yet this newcomer, this laptop-battery feller, comes in here every time and KILLS. He just cuts to the heart of the matter.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2009 08:58 PM (jlvw3)

21

Note that TSA is not ALLOWED to question, search, etc. more than two Muslims/flight.  PROFILING IS NOT ALLOWED.

So, they just keep pushing the boundaries.

Posted by: Rewrite! at December 07, 2009 09:03 PM (d7Px0)

22 You have to admit, laptop-battery guy is shockingly on-topic for a spammer. Have you ever thought of letting him co-blog, Ace?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at December 07, 2009 09:04 PM (H7Rlw)

23 I've actually bookmarked a Laptop-battery comment. It was that good.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 07, 2009 09:04 PM (muUqs)

24 "Um" is feminine

Posted by: Um vs. Uh at December 07, 2009 09:05 PM (d7Px0)

25 That laptop battery guy slices like a f'n hammer. Like a f'n hammer, I say!!

I've always wanted to say that.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 07, 2009 09:05 PM (tClfg)

26 Have we heard the eyewitness testimony of Lance Hardpecs and Dirk McBeefslab?

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 07, 2009 09:07 PM (tClfg)

27 Note that TSA is not ALLOWED to question, search, etc. more than two Muslims/flight. PROFILING IS NOT ALLOWED. So, they just keep pushing the boundaries. Posted by: Rewrite! at December 08, 2009 01:03 AM Actually, this right here would be a nice start for the 'backlash': profiling Muslims. If they bitch about it, simply tell them to stop having their compadres mass murdering Americans and we'll stop 'inconveniencing' their travel. If they continue to bitch, I'd ask them if they would rather we round all their asses up and put them in concentration camps like we did to the Japs in WWII. How that be? As it is, them mass murdering 3000 Americans here, 15 Americans there in exchange for simply having their belongings checked while traveling is a pretty cushy deal for them.

Posted by: Michael in MI at December 07, 2009 09:10 PM (ObTcs)

28 >>> You have to admit, laptop-battery guy is shockingly on-topic for a spammer. Have you ever thought of letting him co-blog, Ace? I have encouraged him to open blog. He might post this week on the topic of "No. 1 Sport Female Wonderful Sexy Laptop-Battery." Sounds interesting enough.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2009 09:13 PM (jlvw3)

29 He's got the title, but can he deliver *the story* ?

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2009 09:13 PM (jlvw3)

30 Laptop-battery left this gem in the Tiger Woods rough sex thread :

181 I think the tiger wood is the NO.1 in the golf and education.

So true.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 07, 2009 09:20 PM (muUqs)

31

If laptop-battery guy would just link to some Chinese cheerleaders (they have to have them) or maybe a "Hawt Babes" of the People's Liberation Army, I would buy a laptop battery from him.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at December 07, 2009 09:33 PM (H7Rlw)

32 I have no idea what this Flight 297 is, so I have no idea what is being meant that this guy was apparently a fraud.  Or something. 

Telling the aftermath of the story, without reporting on the actual story... This must be what it feels like to read the New York Times.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at December 07, 2009 09:51 PM (nS7nk)

33 Reminds me of the funny days at lgf with "declear the crudase and be unite"

Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2009 10:09 PM (I3Udb)

34 Chinese cheerleader hotness.
http://tinyurl.com/yc9v9u6

Posted by: Laptop Battery at December 07, 2009 10:34 PM (dK24g)

35 Cahrsel Jhonsno, Fighter Pilot & Action Figure  Why, why, why do you guys pick on charlie johnson!!!

He admits on his Dec 7 article why he is against conservative mad nutjobs now.  He is pro-Gore, pro-global warming, anti-religion,............Wait a minute. He wrote this on Dec 7?    I wonder if he thinks 12/7/41 was an inside job, like they think 9/11/01 was? 

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 07, 2009 11:01 PM (pU4D7)

36 Like wise, we now have the AG Eric Holder bringing the muslims terrorists to NYC.

The same guy who got swidler/ tax evasion/ racketeering crook, Marc Rich, a pardon from Pres Clinton because of the donations to Clintons political party.  Whats next?  Do the terrorists get away with donations to Obama's re-election campaign?

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at December 07, 2009 11:25 PM (pU4D7)

37

2 I knew from the look the brown-skinned bastard was givin' me, that this was'nt going to be an ordinary flight. Luckily, I had studied up for just this situation...... Posted by: Dack Stonechin


I lol'd

Posted by: hobgoblin at December 07, 2009 11:52 PM (HN81u)

38
What you didn't know and won't hear reported is, I missed the first leg out of Akron-Canton because I was tied up trying take out the muzzies who were attempting to blow up the air traffic control tower,  take out the radar and cut power to the landing lights.

Yippie-Ki-Ay motherfuckers, true fuckin' story.

Posted by: Stud Steelheart at December 08, 2009 01:44 AM (+FzLa)

39
I knew this guy was full of shit.

Posted by: Ram Rockerson at December 08, 2009 02:21 AM (+FzLa)

40 Lucky you've got Laptop-battery to fix things straight, ma'am.  You don't need me here.

I'll be out having a Marlboro and punching steers.

Posted by: Burly Texan at December 08, 2009 02:53 AM (mCuSz)

41 The MP5, a sophisticated German submachine gun specifically designed for close quarters combat, leapt like an enraged serpent as I poured burst after burst of tightly aimed fire into the charging Mohammedans. Then I swapped out the exhausted clip with another one in a single fluid motion, taking a moment to crush the windpipe of a devotee of the pedophile prophet before I slapped the charging handle and then, a rictus grin on my face, proceeded to pour pounding pain into the pitiless pack.

Posted by: Mac Laptopbattery at December 08, 2009 03:01 AM (Ko4Av)

42 Then he slew the thread!

Posted by: joncelli at December 08, 2009 03:38 AM (Ko4Av)

43
Opportunists take synchronicity to the power of 10.
Investigators insist there's no such thing as coincidence.

In From The Cold
blogger Spook86 isn't the only one looking twice at bare 'facts'.

Spook 86 is the pseudonym for a former member of the U.S. intelligence community. During a 20-year career in military intelligence, he served as an analyst, operations planner, flight commander, briefer, nuclear targeteer and aircrew member among other positions. Now retired, he maintains extensive contacts within the U.S. intelligence community. Views expressed are his own, and not necessarily those of the U.S. Intelligence Community, Department of Defense, Starfleet Command, the Korean Central News Agency, The Weekly World News, the guy across the street, or anyone else. So there!

Posted by: mavis leno at December 08, 2009 03:54 AM (+CLh/)

44 I'd say the crew change was probably due to the first crew's allowable duty time running out. Otherwise, what would the turnover sound like? "Hi, guys. The No. 1 pack is acting up a little bit and I'm so sure there will be a hijacking attempt on the next leg that Joe and I are bugging out. You OK with that?"

Posted by: RNB at December 08, 2009 04:01 AM (lSJnL)

45

TMZ reported early Tuesday that Woods was admitted as an overdose under the alias "William Smith."

Sources at the Health Central Hospital reportedly said WoodsÂ’ admissions chart specified "OD" and mentioned he was having trouble breathing.

Posted by: Jones at December 08, 2009 04:13 AM (KOkrW)

46 Have we heard the eyewitness testimony of Lance Hardpecs and Dirk McBeefslab?

Big McLargeHuge.

Posted by: nickless at December 08, 2009 04:14 AM (MMC8r)

47 TMZ reported early Tuesday that Woods was admitted as an overdose under the alias "William Smith."

Don't drag me into this.

Posted by: Will Smith at December 08, 2009 04:16 AM (MMC8r)

48

Winterleaf on some Winds

lap-top battery

puts us the fuckin knowledge

thank you, LTB

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 08, 2009 04:20 AM (WvXvd)

49

48

Remember me?

Posted by: Wild Wild West at December 08, 2009 04:20 AM (SqAkN)

50 Captain Savage writes security reports at East Anglia University and NASA. You should see what trouble he ran into in the arctic.

Posted by: dagny at December 08, 2009 04:47 AM (ZJenX)

51

RAW VIDEO: Flight 297 Passenger Talks About AirTran Incident

This is an interview conducted by a local Atlanta reporter with a passenger who has not been interviewed before. His account puts it somewhere between the Chuck Norris wannabee account and the airlines story.

It is still enough to be alarming. The interview is about 10 minutes long.

Posted by: Just A Grunt at December 08, 2009 05:04 AM (ZMnRg)

52

I hope this story is as true as the "hero" story:

Chavez: Venezuela acquires thousands of missiles.

This could be Chavez just running his mouth again, but I do know the Russians have been giving Venezuela military contracts over the past few years.  How the Russians are getting paid is beyond me.

In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at December 08, 2009 05:19 AM (9hSKh)

53 "Hi, guys. The No. 1 pack is acting up a little bit and I'm so sure there will be a hijacking attempt on the next leg that Joe and I are bugging out. You OK with that?"

Okay, that's pretty hilarious.  Nearly laptop battery guy good. 

On a flight I had a few weeks ago there was a gentleman in Muslim garb and my first thought was "dude aren't you cold?" not "omg I'M GONNA DIE".  I was more concerned about the wee baby than him. 

I'll also admit that if it were a group of 12 men who were dressed that way and started acting odd, I'd be a bit freaked.  Of course, if it were a group of 12 Mormons who stood up and started telling me about Joseph Smith, I'd also be freaked. 



Posted by: alexthechick at December 08, 2009 05:30 AM (8WZWv)

54 Fake but Accurate.

Islam Kills

Posted by: MelodicMetal at December 08, 2009 05:59 AM (x4S2a)

55 Just a Grunt: Thanks for that video interview of the flight 297 passenger. It was well worth watchiing.

Posted by: SarahW at December 08, 2009 07:09 AM (CSrvi)

56 lap bat, is on fire!! Dont put him out......

Posted by: joey buzzard at December 08, 2009 07:09 AM (jbXDH)

57 Actually alex, you should be MUCH more freaked if we Mormons start acting up. All a Muslim can do to you is cut your head off. WE can baptize you after you are dead, making you a Mormon for ALL ETERNITY!!! So, watch what you say, or we will get you. David

Posted by: LateNightWithDavid at December 08, 2009 07:12 AM (V/I0F)

58 I prefer to be called "Mr. Tex," pardner. 

Posted by: Dr. Creighton Slaughter at December 08, 2009 07:20 AM (VpZeO)

59

The setting: 2009 AoSHQ Annual Blog Awards

*thunderous applause as Ace approaches the podium*

Ace: "Thank you. Thank you. You're much too kind.  Thank you."

*the audience stands in unison and continues to applaud*

Ace: "I'm so humbled.  You love me.  You really, really love me."

*the audience finally takes theirs seats"

Ace: "Thank you. It's now my honor and privilege to present the final award of the evening. The coveted Moron or Moronette of the Year. [extremely hawt blonde chick, not one of Tiger's girlfriends, hands Ace the envelope] And, without further adieu, the winner is [Ace nervously opens the envelope] um, uh, the winner is "Laptop-battery

*the audience errupts with applause. moron's are crying like little girls. moronettes are fainting as if it were an obama gathering*

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at December 08, 2009 07:25 AM (Vu6sl)

60 Laptop can haz prizez?

Posted by: Laptop-battery's mom at December 08, 2009 07:39 AM (tbYJ7)

61

They never specified what language was spoken by the passenger and his interpreter.

In the wake of 9/11 and the Flying Imams episode, this kind of story (although embellished) is plausible. ItÂ’s easy to see why it gained notoriety.

Posted by: SFC MAC at December 08, 2009 08:03 AM (cuNX0)

62 21 Note that TSA is not ALLOWED to question, search, etc. more than two Muslims/flight.  PROFILING IS NOT ALLOWED.

So, they just keep pushing the boundaries.

Posted by: Rewrite! at December 08, 2009 01:03 AM (d7Px0)

You ain't kidding.  I was in a job interview for TSA airport security, and the second I said that profiling should be done and saves lives, the interview was pretty much over.  Those assholes are willing to put more lives at stake because they're too chickenshit to do what it takes to prevent another 9/11.

Posted by: SFC MAC at December 08, 2009 08:08 AM (cuNX0)

63

I sent the original AoS post to Ex-Fiancee #2, who's a crew lead for AirTran. She said our version was exaggerated bullshit and we all needed to step back from the computer.

On the other hand, she also said I spent too much time on the computer before she dumped my ass, so her judgement could be a shade off. But she did lose an uncle in the WTC on 9/11, so it's not like this sort of thing is off her personal radar.

Posted by: SGT Dan at December 08, 2009 08:32 AM (GgXZc)

64 So when does LGF start calling those who disbelieved Dan Rather fascists? 

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2009 09:40 AM (BiphJ)

65 Is it too "Black Helicopter" of me to suggest that perhaps this "hero's account" was a deliberate Moby from a Muslim intending to discredit all other accounts of "Flying Imams II: Electric Boogaloo"?

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at December 08, 2009 01:42 PM (QxGmu)

66 And if that's true, then he also missed out on putting his "studying" and preparing for just this moment into action. Something he maybe was determined to later cure through an email to a blog.
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