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December 05, 2009

Video: 130 Killed in Russian Club Fire. [dri]
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Between 112 and 130 people died when a fire broke out at the Lame Horse nightclub in Perm, Russia on December 5th. The blaze started when fireworks set off inside the club ignited decorations during the business's 8th anniversary celebration. An equal number of people were also injured in the conflagration.
The fire seemed eerily similar to The Station club fire in West Warwick RI that killed 100 people in 2003.

Always remember the golden rule when attending any public event: As soon as you arrive, locate at least one exit that is different from the doorway you entered through. If something bad happens during the event, everyone will try to exit out of the same doorway they entered through. Everyone that is except you.

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1
That sucks.

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 03:06 PM (fFl1M)

2 There's a reason that pryo people have to licensed.

Also... certain products should not be used indoors with a low ceiling.

Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2009 03:07 PM (OKZrE)

3 Golden rule number two: Don't attend indoor pyrotechnic shows.

Posted by: Star Witness at December 05, 2009 03:08 PM (2YS8r)

4
How fucking stupid are people? Lighting off fireworks indoors.

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 03:08 PM (fFl1M)

5
You know what's almost as important as locating exits?

Looking around to see if there's a fucking imbecile with fireworks in the crowd.

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 03:09 PM (fFl1M)

6 Great White InternationalÂ™?

Posted by: Frank G at December 05, 2009 03:12 PM (I+To0)

7 Sounds like an awesome party!

Posted by: Great White at December 05, 2009 03:12 PM (DtTM9)

8 damn beat me to it

Posted by: Great White at December 05, 2009 03:13 PM (DtTM9)

9 Fire codes? Occupancy limits? In Russia?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at December 05, 2009 03:13 PM (H7Rlw)

When you mix dim lighting,loud music,alcohol with indors firework displays you get a volatile cocktail. Sad sad news indeed. I bet these people don't have the legal recourse we have in the US. It wouldn't suprise me if they got nothing for their pain and suffering.

Posted by: sonnyspats at December 05, 2009 03:16 PM (ozpeF)

11 When this first broke, I thought this was a act of terrorism. Seemed logical after last weeks train bombing of the St. Petersburg-Moscow line. I emailed the first news reports of this story to my friend holger who operates the Holger Awakens anti-terror blog. He put the story up as a act of terror too before this was ruled a fire accident. I got a Hat Tip from him on this, but it was a bad call on my part, I jumped to gun and I apoligize to him and his readers

Posted by: chicagodudewhotrades at December 05, 2009 03:20 PM (hwU9r)

12 What a whitewash. You know the fire was started by global warming.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2009 03:21 PM (9Wv2j)

13 DAMN YOU GREAT WHITE!

Posted by: Dirty Canuck at December 05, 2009 03:23 PM (cBeTr)

14 Side exits from clubs are often chained shut to ensure ya'll pay the cover.

Posted by: Druid at December 05, 2009 03:24 PM (Gct7d)

15 In the words of the late, great Mitch Hedburg - If you're flammable, and you have legs, you're never blocking a fire exit. You're just first in line!

Posted by: harbqll at December 05, 2009 03:25 PM (JZhkJ)

16 I thought of Rhode Island the first time I heard that indoor fireworks were involved- actually, ar first I thought they were talking about what happened in Warwick. When will people figure out that setting off rockets indoors might not ne a swift move, duh?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 05, 2009 03:25 PM (QECjC)

17 Being a good Socialist country, they will fire some government minister from his job. That is all. He will find another job in government somewhere. Nobody is guilty of anything. In China, they execute them after a government trial. Of course they have another billion people who want their jobs.

Posted by: mystry at December 05, 2009 03:25 PM (kmgIE)

18 Fire codes? Occupancy limits? In Russia?

Not here, either, buddy.

All the government miscreants skated and we got more laws for them not to enforce.

Posted by: rhodeislander at December 05, 2009 03:25 PM (khYRZ)

19 In my country we chain shut all fire exits.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at December 05, 2009 03:28 PM (7+pP9)

20 Unless some very big big shot's kid was killed there, it'll be blamed on Bush.

Posted by: eman at December 05, 2009 03:31 PM (B+7+o)

21
In my country we chain shut all fire exits.

Yakov Smirnoff

Do it here too - to keep any paying customers and Fire Marshall from finding out we put a sign "Alarm Will Sound" if you test it.

Posted by: Druid at December 05, 2009 03:33 PM (Gct7d)

22
who else feels pity when you see Bowzer from Sha Na Na on tv hawking crappy records?

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 03:33 PM (fFl1M)

23 You don't realize how scary fires are until you're in one. In September, my neighbor had sparks from a kitchen flare up that unknowingly flew up into the crawl space of our apartment building. Two hours later all hell broke loose. It was almost midnight, smoke filled my apartment immediately, my two cats went berserk and hid, and I tried to grab a few things. My kitty refused to go into her carrier and ran. I can tell you that in the panic of the moment that you will not be a smart as you usually are. I made it out with only my purse, one shoe, a shirt, a bag of dirty laundry, and the clothes I was wearing. I did, oddly, take the time to turn off the kitchen light and put the remote control in the armoire. I cannot imagine the panic that the people in the nightclub felt as so many people tried to escape. Heartbreaking.

Posted by: Warm Mountain at December 05, 2009 03:35 PM (HLaNR)

24 In Soviet Russia, dancefloor sets you on fire.

Posted by: ARL at December 05, 2009 03:37 PM (xCoRj)

25
Well done, ARL.

You know, I was gonna use my 'first' comment to say in b4 Yakov Smirnoff, but I thought it would be in poor taste to make light of this tragedy.

I now regret that decision.

Posted by: Lt Commander Philip Francis Queeg at December 05, 2009 03:42 PM (fFl1M)

who else feels pity when you see Bowzer from Sha Na Na on tv hawking crappy records?

Lee Majors hawking cheap hearing aids kills me.

Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2009 03:46 PM (GsR6T)

27
yeah, that's a sad one, too. but it's funny to hear him whistle when he speaks.

oh, and the Bionic Woman is peddling beds.

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 03:48 PM (fFl1M)

28 Indoor fireworks are stupid, praise the ones that died, still it was stupid.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 05, 2009 03:49 PM (81QXy)

29 Posted by: Warm Mountain at December 05, 2009

I hope your kitties made it out ok.

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2009 03:49 PM (sey23)

30 Rule Number 3: Never attend an enclosed venue that doesn't have fire sprinklers.

Rule Number 4: Never attend a venue where there's exposed foam on the walls and ceiling, even if Rule Number 3 is OK.

Posted by: David in San Diego at December 05, 2009 03:49 PM (GF+6V)

31 Yeah, but I rather do like Lindsay Wagner selling mattresses.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 05, 2009 03:51 PM (/Ft4q)

32 This is the first time Russians have ever made a big mistake like this.

Posted by: Chernobyl at December 05, 2009 03:52 PM (cxGtL)

33 Only 130 russians dead? When I was in charge and ordering people killed, I'd call a day with such a low death count 'saturday'

Posted by: Stalin at December 05, 2009 03:55 PM (hwU9r)

34
The name of the club was the Lame Horse?

Did Hillary Clinton name it?

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 03:56 PM (fFl1M)

35 OT, but USC lost to Arizona. Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2009 03:58 PM (9Wv2j)

36 Y-not at December 05, 2009 07:49 PM

No, my kitties did not make it out. The apartment filled with smoke too fast, and they hid in fear. I don't miss the possessions I lost, but I do miss my girls.

Posted by: Warm Mountain at December 05, 2009 03:58 PM (HLaNR)

37 @37

I'm so sorry.

Posted by: Y-not at December 05, 2009 04:00 PM (sey23)

38
that's sad, Warm Mountain. Sorry.

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 04:00 PM (fFl1M)

39 That video is amazing. When the smoke enters the frame as they are filing out, rather orderly a that time, the panic can be seen building as one guy tries to get past one woman at 0:41.

Posted by: Pelayo at December 05, 2009 04:01 PM (8NGHm)

40
Reading these entertaining posts is great while listening to the sound of fireworks as the annual Christmas boat parade navigates the Inter coastal waterway from West Palm Beach to Jupiter, Florida.

Little chance of fire, but the Coast Guard and municipality police departments will jail quite a few boaters who believe that drinking and driving a boat is normal behavior.

The night Christmas gig isn't my favorite, but the summer months have large numbers of boats traversing the waterway with nubile young chicks sunning their hooters for one and all. It's udderly fantastic!

Posted by: Fish at December 05, 2009 04:02 PM (6mfq0)

41 I'm so sorry about your kitties, Warm Mountain.

Posted by: Peaches at December 05, 2009 04:03 PM (9Wv2j)

42
I was in a boat fire. A 46' Hatteras. Nobody was hurt, the interior of the boat was ruined.

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 04:04 PM (fFl1M)

43
And I almost burnt down my parents house, but that's not something I wanna go into detail about.

Posted by: a.k.a. at December 05, 2009 04:05 PM (fFl1M)

44
That video is amazing. When the smoke enters the frame as they are filing out, rather orderly a that time, the panic can be seen building as one guy tries to get past one woman at 0:41. Posted by: Pelayo

Only about ten seconds earlier a man takes a moment to unlock the second leaf in a double door - should have been panic hardware - even in Russia.

Posted by: Druid at December 05, 2009 04:08 PM (Gct7d)

45 Make that at 0:28 - guy in black t-shirt looks at edge of doors, and unlocks stationary side.

Posted by: Druid at December 05, 2009 04:11 PM (Gct7d)

46 I woke up one night to the smell of the kitchen trying to immolate itself. Had to carry the still flaming remains of a humidifier outside while nearly naked. Burning plastic smells terrible.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at December 05, 2009 04:13 PM (9nNhO)

47 CoolCzech 17 - Once bitten, twice shy...

Posted by: Zimriel at December 05, 2009 04:15 PM (04p0/)

48

Once bitten, twice shy...

Posted by: Zimriel at December 05, 2009 08:15 PM (04p0/)

Cruel and cold hearted........but funny!

Posted by: Fish at December 05, 2009 04:24 PM (6mfq0)

49 This is terrible, those poor people.

Back inna days when I was a club-going, partying fool, I would always scope the place out for the exits. My friends used to think I was being paranoid.

Posted by: TheresaD at December 05, 2009 04:37 PM (iGCmo)

50 In Navy boot camp they do that to the hole recruit company. The smoke chamber was the closest I came to screaming like a girl and running. I probable would have run right into a bulkhead as it was fooking dark in there.

Posted by: RobD at December 05, 2009 04:40 PM (wGIVf)

51

my 15 yr old cat haz siezed my chair so it's time to watcc the tube. could tell tales many about bad concert stuff.. neb. cornholers will luz. hook em horns.

Posted by: Tinian at December 05, 2009 04:41 PM (7+pP9)

52 Did Terri Garr get out?

Posted by: mghorning at December 05, 2009 04:42 PM (aPIE9)

53 Warm Mountain: In college, I was locked out and slept over at a friend's apt. In the morning, we smelled smoke, called the FD, & knocked on everyone's doors. When I returned to the apt, it was getting too hot and smokey. We went out the window onto the fire escape. From outside I saw my friend's parakeet and climed back in to get it. By the time I got to the window to climb out, the room was black with smoke and you couldn't see a thing. The parakeet was only about 5 feet away but one second more, it would have been hell to find the window and get out. Unfortunately, the parakeet died. I did okay until 2 days later and then sort of lost it. The place wasn't that burned up but it was mostly smoke and heat. Things melted that you never though would melt. I wonder if there is something one can do to save our pets when they get scared and run away?

Posted by: moi at December 05, 2009 04:42 PM (bJ3oa)

54 smoke and heat damage that is....

Posted by: moi at December 05, 2009 04:44 PM (bJ3oa)

55 Were there adequate fire doors for that place? And were they unlocked?

Posted by: moi at December 05, 2009 04:45 PM (bJ3oa)

56 Warm Mountain--

I'm sorry too about your kitties-- I know I would try my best to save mine in the event of a fire.

I wonder if there is something one can do to save our pets when they get scared and run away?

I'm not sure. I remember reading a couple years ago about brush fires in Australia that claimed a lot of house pets (dogs, too, not just kittehs)-- the fires moved so quickly from house to house that people didn't have time to save their pets, and some couldn't save themselves. I've seen fire safety videos that show that a house can burn a lot faster than most people realize.

Posted by: PA Cat at December 05, 2009 05:05 PM (l3v1U)

57

Okay -- cat is on the bed now. Was at Dead show at the Carrier Dome and all door except the ticket entrances were chained shut from the inside. Like the chain being inside made it safe. Saved a cute little hysterical Dead Head chick once from getting her ribs crushed at Asbury Park. No head for thanks.No thanks of any kind. A crowd will crush you and kill you in a heartbeat.

Cat needs belly rubs so I gotta go.

Posted by: Tinian at December 05, 2009 05:05 PM (7+pP9)

58 That looked like 3rd-year-anniversary dancing at best.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 05, 2009 05:22 PM (muUqs)

59 This looks almost exactly like what happened at the Santika Nightclub in Bangkok on New Years 2009.

Santika Nightclub Fire 2009 (Warning! May contain graphic images)

Posted by: John D at December 05, 2009 05:47 PM (LM384)

60 Hindsight is 20/20 but, c'mon. Indoor fireworks that SHOOT UP.

Posted by: Crusty at December 05, 2009 06:41 PM (qzgbP)

61 The tramps said it best:

Burn baby burn, disco inferno

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 05, 2009 08:24 PM (vor+w)

62 There were a lot of hot chicks in that club.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 05, 2009 08:43 PM (vor+w)

63 I was working backstage at the MGM in Vegas when they had the big fire. Actually I had just gone home to bed when my friend called and I turned on the TV to see the smoke pouring out the vents near the stage.
No, it wasn't Mr. Paul Anka, it was Mr. Mac Davis.
I went in the next day to retrieve the band gear. You wouldn't frickin' believe what smoke and moisture could do. Tools that I had left on a table in the lightbooth were totally rusty and black.

I think 80 people died. The good news was that it changed the Nevada laws about sprinkler systems in high-rise buildings.

Posted by: Retired Geezer at December 05, 2009 10:17 PM (aTChP)

64 The last time I had to deal with a fire was in my dorm, in college - in an upperclassmen-only building, twelve stories, late at night. The guys in the room above mine, on the ninth story, set fire to a bag of popcorn, and subsequently caught some papers on the microwave on fire, and then books, and then the room. IIRC, pot was involved in their slow reactions. The alarm went off and my years of fire drill indoctrination kicked in, kind of - I pulled on a sweatshirt, grabbed my laptop, and went next door to get my friends, fearing they weren't awake. One was, and asked "should we wake up [sleeping roommate]?" WTF. Me: "YES!" Both of them up - "Can't we take the elevators?" Me: "NO!" The stairs had smoke starting to come down them from above, but we were fine walking down them to get outside.

It was REALLY cold; the dorm didn't burn down; some kid was outside in only his boxers. Everyone was fine. /end story

Posted by: JeepGirl at December 05, 2009 11:01 PM (mZFDY)

65 Did you see how fast it went from okay to game over? Crap that was scary. I hope the Abba girl made it out ok.

Posted by: pc at December 05, 2009 11:22 PM (crDIp)

Always remember the golden rule when attending any public event: As soon as you arrive, locate at least one exit that is different from the doorway you entered through.

That rule warrants repeating.

And: Try to gage the crowd. For example, if you're going to a Blue Ã–yster Cult show and there are a thousand 20-year-old kids lined up outside to get in, realize that most of them aren't fans, and they might grow impatient waiting for a song they recognize. But you're a fan, and you know that they play "Don't Fear the Reaper" last and that they play "Godzilla" second-to-last, and the kids might get a bit more rowdy than the middle-aged rockers and biker dudes that usually frequent such shows.

You can't prevent tragedies like this, but you can escape them. But it's best to avoid them altogether if you can.

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