December 15, 2009

What The Hell Is Joe Biden Talking About On Afghanistan?
— Ace

As if the Obama administration's Afghan policy wasn't already clear as mud, Sheriff Joe decided to wade into the debate today and add a few more pounds of muck to the mix.

"You're going to see that [troop numbers] chart coming down as rapidly over the next two years," Biden said after looking at a chart showing troop numbers surging from 33,000 at the beginning of 2009 to 98,000 in the summer of 2010. "This is not a Coin [counterinsurgency] strategy," Biden said. "We just want to make sure that the Taliban is diminished enough so that the Afghan government can contain it."

Perhaps most troubling, Biden said: "the president has made something exquisitely clear to each of the generals: He said do not occupy any portion of that country that you are not confident within 18 months you're going to be able to turn over to the Afghans. Do not occupy what you cannot turn over."

It's not a counterinsurgency strategy? Did anyone tell that to Obama, McChrystal or Gates?

I'm not sure if this is Slow Joe being Slow Joe (he was supposedly an advocate for a counter-terrorism based approach) or he accidentally let the truth out but there's already been too much confusion over the meaning of the December 2010 review, the July 2011 pull out and whether or not it's all conditions based, we really don't need any more 'nuance' added to the program.

Related Enough: The Weekly Standard takes a look at Joe Biden's, um, intellect and finds him wanting.

A little philosophy? Who better to cite at a summit on urban policy in Chicago than Aristotle, who, "over two millennia ago .  .  . recognized the defining advantage of cities. He wrote, and I quote, 'Men come together in cities in order to live; they remain together in order to live the good life.' That is as true today as it was then." Never mind that Aristotle's point in the Politics was basically the opposite--that men move beyond their local "villages" to form broader political associations, translated as "city" but also "society," with roughly the connotation of today's "nation." Oh well--it sounded nice.

Biden also dabbles in theology. In May, he quoted a line from G.K. Chesterton ("It's not that Christianity has been tried and found wanting; it's been found difficult and left untried") that must have struck its audience--the American Israel Public Affairs Committee--as an odd an-alogy. (Biden was likening Christianity to the Middle East peace process.)


Thanks to Edward via Ace (the real one) for the latter Standard link.

Posted by: Ace at 12:18 PM | Comments (177)
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1 Harvard grading system: Bill Buckner's ability to grab a slow roller; a solid B+

Posted by: mossback at December 15, 2009 12:20 PM (GfYt/)

2 Is there a safe word equivalent of "snowbeast" you can utter when the administration's words and actions freak you out?

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 12:21 PM (rTGYp)

3 sorry to get off topic, but:

big favor i'd like from you morons, my gf's sister who doesn't like universal healthcare has to write a paper on why people support/don't support it. to my shock most people commenting (except 1 person) agree w/ me against it, i posted why i thought it would hurt us and posted links to source from, the guy who disagrees though just posted something directed at me that reads the following:

@ Luis - Soooooo we can either go your way and not pay our part for a universal health care system and people will will still die. Also people that ARE getting medical help without it being paid for, is CAUSING a large majority of our government debt. You don't believe you can get medical help on the gov't's dime? Go to the ER with a broken bone ... See Moreand I bet you walk out with a cast. OR, we can pay for the universal health care system and provide funding for it other than our future social security checks when we retire. ;-) Shit rolls down hill baby.

so how should i respond to that, i'm not necessarily sure what the hell he's talking about? and please don't make the reply too rude because it might be a good friend of my gf's sister

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 12:22 PM (xNw7B)

4 To be fair, when was the last time Joe made a lick of sense?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 15, 2009 12:22 PM (D/RCG)

5 Or, to give Slow Joe a hell of a lot more credit than he deserves, he could be sowing confusion and discord among the enemy ranks as regards our overall strategy.  Sowing confusion and discord among our own ranks is just an unfortunate side effect.  Overall, I give it a B+.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 15, 2009 12:23 PM (pZEar)

6

Guest-blogging is not all that different than my day-to-day activities on AoSHQ – 18 of the 18 posts currently on the front page were written by me.

Posted by: ace in Texas at December 15, 2009 12:24 PM (WvXvd)

7 Billy Joe never made a lick'a sense,
pass the biscuits, please.

Posted by: Adriane at December 15, 2009 12:24 PM (0U2C0)

8

Let's not jump to conclusions.

Joe is acting stupidly. Again.

Posted by: Barry O at December 15, 2009 12:25 PM (konek)

9 Are we sure Joe isn't a Taliban sleeper?

Posted by: Ace Fish Stick at December 15, 2009 12:25 PM (iYbLN)

10

I-- ah... uhm

God love him

Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 12:28 PM (e8YaH)

11

My ability to throw disinformation at our Taliban enemies: solid B+.

They have no idea as to when, where and how many troops there will be.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 15, 2009 12:28 PM (fDWFP)

12 Obama's ability to toss the first pitch: B+

Posted by: Ace up my sleeve at December 15, 2009 12:28 PM (GfYt/)

13 He said do not occupy any portion of that country that you are not confident within 18 months you're going to be able to turn over to the Afghans. Do not occupy what you cannot turn over."

Shit, I got this mixed up with my memo to the staff about parking spaces.

Posted by: Ace Biden at December 15, 2009 12:29 PM (sYxEE)

14 Joe Biden? Never heard of him but I'd give him a B+ for stating things clearly.

Posted by: Charles "Ace" Gibson at December 15, 2009 12:30 PM (nz654)

15

Is "exqusitely clear" a solid B+ kind of a term?

I miss Dan Quayle.  Nelson Rockefeller, Spiro Agnew and Hubert Humphrey as well.  Hannibal Hamlin even.

Posted by: Circa (Also, Ace) at December 15, 2009 12:30 PM (B+qrE)

16 How much plus could a B plus plus if a B Plus could plus Wood?


Posted by: Ace up my sleeve at December 15, 2009 12:30 PM (GfYt/)

17 Your Agonizer please, Mr. Flenser...

Posted by: goateed Ace at December 15, 2009 12:30 PM (gdjuF)

18 I just want to say that our troops, but not all of them, will occupy what we can turn over to the Afghans, but not all of them...

Posted by: Ace Biden at December 15, 2009 12:31 PM (sYxEE)

19 I keep looking for reasons to be at least somewhat optimistic about this war, but I just can't find any.

Posted by: Bugler at December 15, 2009 12:32 PM (YCVBL)

20 I bet Biden's claim to fame when he was a kid was how long he could hold his breath. Ten, fifteen -- sometimes twenty minutes -- without taking a breath...


Posted by: ayce at December 15, 2009 12:32 PM (ZJ/un)

21

The administration's actions and "thoughts" on this subject hurt my head to think about, so I just keep putting my head in the sand and saying "at least my husband won't have to get deployed there twice in the next 3 years".

[spits sand out of mouth]

Posted by: Mama AceJ at December 15, 2009 12:33 PM (Be4xl)

22 He said do not occupy any portion of that country that you are not confident within 18 months you're going to be able to turn over to the Afghans. Do not occupy what you cannot turn over."


By that standard we shouldn't be occupying a single inch of that place nowEpic Fail B-Plus on strategy there, pal.

Posted by: Ace Five at December 15, 2009 12:33 PM (OS2KR)

23 I give Sheriff Joe a solid gentleman's B+ -- for both his grasp of military strategy, and his ability to hit the toilet most of the time when he gets things wee-wee'd up again.

God love 'im. Who else will?

Posted by: Chainsaw Ace at December 15, 2009 12:34 PM (pLTLS)

24 Guys! Settle down here, I was at Katie's when one of the staffers wrote that memo while being marinated by my cerebral juices

Posted by: Ace Biden's Gray Matter at December 15, 2009 12:35 PM (sYxEE)

25 Let me be perfectly clear.  We will always have enough boots on the ground to appear to have not been defeated but whether there are feet in those boots will be determined by whether we use those feet to leave under conditions looking as much as possible like we weren't defeated or whether we lose those feet but regardless those feet will not be stepping into any new areas that we may have to leave boots in in order to look like those feet are not being defeated becuase there is no substitute for victory except defeat and I'll be damned if we're going to take one of those booted feet up our backsides from our base for actually trying to avoid defeat or from the teabaggers for accepting defeat.

Posted by: Bungle Boy Biden at December 15, 2009 12:35 PM (xxgag)

26 It's put on a show then retreat and defeat

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 12:36 PM (0GFWk)

27 Damned good thing we dodged a bullet with that snowbilly chick, doncha think?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2009 12:37 PM (l1Wlr)

28 They said if I voted for McCain etc., etc., etc.

Posted by: The Guy Who Comes Late to the Meme at December 15, 2009 12:37 PM (MMC8r)

29 Joe Biden is a law school graduate.

Law school.  Where you go when math is too hard for you.

Syracuse, too.  Not bad.

And he thinks that his law degree makes him more intelligent than average.

Law degree.  No math.

Just wanted to point that out.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 12:38 PM (T0NGe)

30 koopy just helped me w/ my problem at another post

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 12:38 PM (xNw7B)

31 yrm ace,
I think he is saying the old you can pay me now or pay me later meme, which is bs, because we think the emergency room guy should pay his own way.  Its a straw man argument, there is a 3rd, 4th, and many more ways to solve our current minor healthcare system problems.  Socialism is not one of them.

Posted by: Ace's humble opinion at December 15, 2009 12:39 PM (DIYmd)

32 Syracuse, too. Not bad. Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 04:38 PM (T0NGe) Ah, Syracuse basketball good Syracuse Law- not so good

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 12:40 PM (0GFWk)

33 So Obama should have said to Leno in re: bowling scores, "It's like the a Joe Biden speech or something."

Posted by: stuiec at December 15, 2009 12:42 PM (7AOgy)

34

This is just Biden being Biden. He was always against this new Afghan strategy, so he's stating his own hopes and feelings while trying to sound important. Everyone - Gates, Jones, McChrystal, Petraeus, Hillary - is saying the opposite, and other than The Great Gift Giver, they'll be the ones in charge of implementing the policy.

Posted by: Ace Q at December 15, 2009 12:42 PM (pfStM)

35 Skippy picking Slo-Joe to cut down on the assassination attempts - now THAT move gets him a B+

Posted by: Wind Rider at December 15, 2009 12:42 PM (NDYjN)

36 Syracuse Law- not so good

Meh.  "Good law school" is damning with faint praise anyway.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 12:43 PM (T0NGe)

37 Joe Biden is a law school graduate.

Law school. Where you go when math is too hard for you.

Syracuse, too. Not bad.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 04:38 PM (T0NGe)

He certainly hid his law degree in his debate with Palin, when he didn't know where the Constitution addresses the role of the Vice President. And his claim from the weeks before was that he taught Constitutional Law.

How do these people still show their faces in public?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 15, 2009 12:43 PM (A46hP)

38 Great post, ace. I couldn't agree more.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 12:43 PM (NLjN3)

39

 He said do not occupy any portion of that country that you are not confident within 18 months you're going to be able to turn over to the Afghans. Do not occupy what you cannot turn over."

Heck, the Taliban are Afghans.  They could turn it all over to them right now.  Why wait for 18 months, do it yesterday.

What was the original mission goal again?  Invade Afghanistan because the Afghans won't give up Crazy Sammy.  Are we any closer to getting Crazy Sammy yet?

Posted by: Joe B+den at December 15, 2009 12:44 PM (7Ldd7)

40 Meh. "Good law school" is damning with faint praise anyway. Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 04:43 PM (T0NGe) Point taken

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 12:44 PM (0GFWk)

41 Sorry, the above comment, attributed to ace, was actually written by ace. (Damn sockpuppet)

Posted by: notrop-ace at December 15, 2009 12:45 PM (NLjN3)

42 I gave up on Syracuse when they changed from being the Orangemen to being thr Orange.  WTF kind of mascot is an Orange?

Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 12:45 PM (e8YaH)

43 WTF kind of mascot is an Orange? Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 04:45 PM (e8YaH) Better than a lemon

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 12:46 PM (0GFWk)

44

I love Joe

He's crazy like a fox.

I think he will prove you all wrong.

Has anybody seen my eight ball**sniff**sniff**

Posted by: Ashley B. at December 15, 2009 12:47 PM (pr+up)

45 I think he happened to blurt out the truth:  the troops are being sent to Afghanistan as a pointless gesture, not to actually do anything, and then they'll be brought home again.  And then the media will ignore the bloodbath which follows.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2009 12:47 PM (BUxMT)

46
Better than a lemon



Or the Passion Fruits

Posted by: bulwark at December 15, 2009 12:48 PM (jvrmc)

47 Let's play cowboys and indians until the surgerender.

Posted by: chicocano at December 15, 2009 12:49 PM (2n5cq)

48

It's about as intimidating as the Stanford Cardinal

that's the color cardinal, not the little bird

Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 12:49 PM (e8YaH)

49 I nominate Joe Biden as Yogi's successor for the next AFLAC barbershop advert.

Posted by: Doc99 at December 15, 2009 12:49 PM (davqG)

50 Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 04:22 PM (xNw7B)

I would say something like this.

In addition to my general preference that personal liberty in the form of freedom of choice for the individual be retained by the citizens as is possible, the government generally and this administration in particular have clearly demonstrated their inability to successfully address even the most simple medical questions.  For many months now we have been told that a new plague will be and is upon us in the form of swine flu.  The very government that has been trying to and is scaring the bejesus out of the population has failed totally in the most basic of precautions, vaccinations. Such vaccinations as have been provided have been too few, too late, and now, today, we learn that the quality is so low that 800,000 must be "recalled" (although I reamin unclear on how one is able to recall a vaccination that has been injected into a patient's arm).  These are the people who will decide which of several options you or your loved one will be granted when they don't have a year to think about it, when they are dealing with a far more complicated situation, and when the issue is your life or death.  Government is intrinsically stupid, clumsy, and slow but this administration makes the Three Stooges look like Nobel Laureates as they lie, bungle, and corrupt there way to sacrificing our lives, our fortunes, and possibly our sacred honor so that bureaucrats can replace doctors in making health care decisions.

Posted by: Bungle Boy Biden at December 15, 2009 12:50 PM (xxgag)

51 I nominate Joe Biden as Yogi's successor for the next AFLAC barbershop advert. Posted by: Doc99 at December 15, 2009 04:49 PM (davqG) Yogi is A) a national treasure B) a true blue Veteran. Lets not sully his name please.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 12:51 PM (0GFWk)

52 Law school.  Where you go when math is too hard for you.


The only reason I'm not a doctor or a pilot right now.  God's truth.

I will say that most of the folks that I went to law school with at a small, private, well-ranked school were almost universally pretty intelligent.  Once into practice, I realized quickly that this is not the case in other law schools. 

How do these dolts pass the Bar?


Posted by: ace # 45627171 at December 15, 2009 12:52 PM (p1s9n)

53 How do these dolts pass the Bar? Posted by: ace # 45627171 at December 15, 2009 04:52 PM (p1s9n) Well some never pass a bar

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 12:53 PM (0GFWk)

54

He certainly hid his law degree in his debate with Palin, when he didn't know where the Constitution addresses the role of the Vice President. And his claim from the weeks before was that he taught Constitutional Law.

How do these people still show their faces in public?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at December 15, 2009 04:43 PM (A46hP)

Biden is the same kind of bald-faced liar that Gore is, interestingly enough.

I remember that in the Scooter Libby case that law school graduate, Tim Russert, claimed not to know how a grand jury works.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 12:54 PM (T0NGe)

Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 12:55 PM (e8YaH)

56 Damn sock!  It was I who compared the Obama administration with the Three
Stooges on health care (although I may not have been the first and I certainly won't be the last).

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 15, 2009 12:55 PM (xxgag)

57 What The Hell Is Joe Biden Talking About On Afghanistan Ever?

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2009 12:55 PM (I3Udb)

58 If Biden starts crediting ace we're f**ked

Posted by: Boskar at December 15, 2009 12:56 PM (pUO5u)

59
*Everything the democrats do is about positioning themselves for the next election.
*Except for health care, where they will lose big, even if they get it.


Posted by: ethos at December 15, 2009 12:56 PM (0fzsA)

60 I really think the repubs should start to push this. Mandatory random drug screening and daily breathalizer tests for ALL elected officials. Show up for work...you gotta blow to get in. Come up to drop for a piss test? Drop or get suspended for 6 months and go into the program. Without the right to vote. We got this on the fire department...some police have it too. These fucks are voting on our kids future...trillions and trillions of dollars. I don't want some drunk or crack head voting on that.

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at December 15, 2009 12:56 PM (U0jzi)

61
I wonder if Joe purposely makes these ridiculous statements, intentionally lowering the chances of him being pegged for plagiarism.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at December 15, 2009 12:57 PM (EFQfG)

62 Law school.  Where you go when math is too hard for you.

Bite me.


Posted by: The Patent Bar at December 15, 2009 12:57 PM (8/DeP)

63 Sadly, there are not enough juices in Joe Biden's entire brain to marinate a mosquito filet.

Posted by: stuiec at December 15, 2009 12:58 PM (7AOgy)

64 But Joe makes me look smart! . . .. OsamaHusseinIslamObama 2012' (the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice) -It's never too early to campaign-

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!!) at December 15, 2009 12:58 PM (e9CTJ)

65

47

 Exactly...Press Sassy Pants will not take the fight to the enemy he is an unabashed pacifist. Smoke and mirrors will be the strategy for the next year or until  he can satisfy all political opportunities, our boys are simply a tool for him to achieve the ends he desires.  

"We just want to make sure that the Taliban is diminished enough so that the Afghan government can contain it."

WTF happened to hammering your enemy into total submission, unitl they break and are no longer a threat??

Posted by: dananjcon at December 15, 2009 12:58 PM (pr+up)

66

It's about as intimidating as the Stanford Cardinal

that's the color cardinal, not the little bird




When you put BIG in front of the color, then you're intimidating!

Posted by: Dartmouth Big Green at December 15, 2009 12:59 PM (oQIfB)

67

How do these dolts pass the Bar?
From what I've heard here on the left Coast, all you really need is an extraordinary memory & ability to 'recall' information for tests......hence, the phenominally low level of true intellect among Calilfornia lawyers

Posted by: Ace's Butcher at December 15, 2009 12:59 PM (MkhK0)

68 Law school.  Where you go when math is too hard for you you completely lack a conscience.
 FIFY


Posted by: Ace Five at December 15, 2009 01:00 PM (OS2KR)

69 Good old Joe. He's got a solid B+ brain.

Posted by: TheQuietman at December 15, 2009 01:01 PM (1Jaio)

70
Biden speak:
"Our troops are already coming home!  Please stop hating and mistrusting us, oh faithful anti-war leftists.  Ignore the numbers, just look into my eyes and believe me when I say the troops are coming home."


Posted by: ethos at December 15, 2009 01:01 PM (0fzsA)

71 3 Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 04:22 PM (xNw7B)

Well, I think we can all agree that I'm not the sharpest bulb in the drawer, but here are a couple of my thoughts:

@ Luis - Soooooo we can either go your way and not pay our part for a universal health care system and people will will still die.

Universal health care will not stop people from dying. Everyone dies. The only way to not die is to not have been born in the first place (I understand China has a handle on that policy), but where's the fun in that?

Also people that ARE getting medical help without it being paid for, is CAUSING a large majority of our government debt.

Wouldn't it be cheaper and more effective to enforce the border?

OR, we can pay for the universal health care system and provide funding for it other than our future social security checks when we retire.

He/she/it has lost me here.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 01:01 PM (1OYcp)

72 Eh...whats the best way to cure a nose bleed? 

Posted by: Ashley B. at December 15, 2009 01:01 PM (pr+up)

73 My God, it's full of posts. But seriously, I'm on fire today.

Posted by: 2001 Ace at December 15, 2009 01:01 PM (mGSN1)

74

D'oh! Didn't mean to sockpuppet Ace on that one.

 

Posted by: Anachronda at December 15, 2009 01:02 PM (1OYcp)

75

OR, we can pay for the universal health care system and provide funding for it other than our future social security checks when we retire.

He/she/it has lost me here.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 05:01 PM (1OYcp)

We can avoid the rush and go broke now.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 15, 2009 01:03 PM (xxgag)

76 "Do not occupy what you cannot turn over"

Some of the grunts on the ground some a little confused, God bless 'em.  So let me put this in simpler terms:

Step 1.  Avoid enemy strongholds
Step 3.  Victory!

Posted by: Joe Biden and the Art of War at December 15, 2009 01:05 PM (MT+0i)

77 I think Joe committed a gaffe, so long as "gaffe" is understood as "a politician inadvertently telling the truth." Bambi's policy is to hunker down for 18 months and then bail out before the election. He has no intention of obtaining victory. Joe knows that but couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Posted by: joncelli Ace at December 15, 2009 01:06 PM (RD7QR)

78 I never thought I'd say it but go, Weird Howard, go!

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 15, 2009 01:06 PM (xxgag)

79

Better than Orangepersons....  the mascot used to be an Indian called the saltine warrior so you know how that went...

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 01:06 PM (7DB+a)

80

It's like the time So-Crates told the dean of admissions at Princeton.

"Sometimes ya gotta say..WTF".

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 01:06 PM (dUR2C)

81 Either Biden or Lieberman, the Joe's are fucking us.

Posted by: Ace, not joe at December 15, 2009 01:06 PM (DIYmd)

82

74 Eh...whats the best way to cure a nose bleed?

 Bloodletting and Leeches!

Posted by: Ace's Barber at December 15, 2009 01:07 PM (h9hzM)

83

OR, we can pay for the universal health care system and provide funding for it other than our future social security checks when we retire.

Translation: We want the gov't to decide what health care $$ are spent on. Don't give the people their money back and let them decide.

Posted by: Mama AceJ at December 15, 2009 01:07 PM (Be4xl)

84 thanks everyone i posted my question/need for help in 3 posts and i'm grateful for the help from those who put their 2 cents in

Posted by: YRM at December 15, 2009 01:07 PM (xNw7B)

85 Orangepersons....  which is code for the Protestant baby killers of Northern Ireland.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 01:07 PM (dUR2C)

86 Universal health care will not stop people from dying. Everyone dies.

OMG!  I have it figured out!

Vampires.

That's right.  The Democrats plan to turn us all into vampires.

Look at a picture of Chuck Schumer and tell me that guy isn't a vampire.  Pale skin, completely phony smile and I think he has fangs.

I've figured it out.  It explains so much.  Obama's a vampire too.  Michelle, of course, is a werewolf.  Werewolves are known to wear their belts very high.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 01:07 PM (T0NGe)

87 I must admit, I'm Ace with a fake-funny moutache...

Posted by: Ace's Barber at December 15, 2009 01:08 PM (h9hzM)

88

The whole problem with "The Taliban is not Al Qaeda" meme is Mullah Omar.  He is the head guy.  He is also considered by some to be the Caliph , or the Ruler, of the revived Islamic Caliphate. I have read that Osama Bin Laden has pledged fealty to Mullah Omar.  If this is true then I would think Bin Laden is acting with the concurrence of Mullah Omar.

 

Posted by: davod at December 15, 2009 01:08 PM (GUZAT)

89 I sense that Ace is feeling a liitle under-appreciated today.

Posted by: crystal at December 15, 2009 01:08 PM (KVSUW)

90 If Plugs had been in charge in 1776 the Declaration of Independence would be written in finger paints and signed with Biden's own poo.

And he would have declared independence from the color orange.

Posted by: sifty at December 15, 2009 01:09 PM (gyoAZ)

91 Hmm, just exactly who is making policy at the White House, and what is that supposed to be, and what is it supposed to accomplish? Inquiring voter minds want to know! Or maybe Slow Joe is now so far out of the loop that he is phoning in these off-the-wall comments in the hopes that somebody will fill him in on the situation.

Remember, this clueless idiot is one bad day away from the U.S. presidency.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 15, 2009 01:09 PM (lYKj1)

92 Our ship of state is captained by a fool and crewed by syphilic drunken louts.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 01:09 PM (PD1tk)

93 I can only hope he confuses the Taliban, too.

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2009 01:10 PM (wXypd)

94
Extortion.   I smell Rahm.

"According to a Senate aide, the White House is now threatening to put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list if Nelson doesn't fall into line.

Offutt Air Force Base employs some 10,000 military and federal employees in Southeastern Nebraska. As our source put it, this is a "naked effort by Rahm Emanuel and the White House to extort Nelson's vote." They are "threatening to close a base vital to national security for what?" asked the Senate staffer."


Posted by: ethos at December 15, 2009 01:11 PM (0fzsA)

95 Excuse me, have any of you armchair generals had to dodge sniper fire in Bosnia?  Evade mods of Pee-Wees during the Travel Soccer War?  Or been on super-secret missions during the Prozac Insurrection?

I thought not.

Like I always say, until you've walked a mile to piss in another man's moccasins, stop calling the pot black!

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at December 15, 2009 01:11 PM (I3Udb)

96 If he only had a brain!

Posted by: Joe Biden's Plugs at December 15, 2009 01:11 PM (KVSUW)

97 I can only hope he confuses the Taliban, too.

They're probably too busy laughing at him to be confused.

Posted by: Ace at December 15, 2009 01:12 PM (oQIfB)

98 And yay, though I walk through the lighted halls of the Capitol, I still smash my skull into walls and doors.

Posted by: aceBiden1200 at December 15, 2009 01:13 PM (dUR2C)

99 Be careful what you wish for, Mr. Blogging Sockpuppet Owner guy.

Posted by: ace's prettypinkfluffypanties at December 15, 2009 01:13 PM (Qk3PK)

100 The whole problem with "The Taliban is not Al Qaeda" meme is Mullah Omar. He is the head guy. He is also considered by some to be the Caliph , or the Ruler, of the revived Islamic Caliphate. I have read that Osama Bin Laden has pledged fealty to Mullah Omar. If this is true then I would think Bin Laden is acting with the concurrence of Mullah Omar. Posted by: davod at December 15, 2009 05:08 PM (GUZAT) Well yeah that and also One of Bin Laden sons is humping Omar's daughters I think.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 01:14 PM (0GFWk)

101

Posted by: Joe Biden and the Art of War at December 15, 2009 05:05 PM (MT+0i)

 

Also : Feel Free to Relinquish the High Ground.  It's of no tactical advantage during your retreat.

Also : "Bin Laden, you magnificent Bastard...I read copied this from your book!"

Posted by: General Fightin' Joe Biden at December 15, 2009 01:14 PM (h9hzM)

102 Only a ballerina, a blithering idiot, and a commie man-child could run a government like this.

Joe Biden is a real Munson.

Posted by: sifty at December 15, 2009 01:15 PM (gyoAZ)

103 Moreover, Nelson isn't saying he's signed on.

Remember that McCaskill also made some noise about not voting for it if it added to the deficit (hint, Claire, it already has, ask Mary Landrieu).

Burris is even standing around with his hand out (no doubt he'll want something he can put his name on).

Obama wants this, as he wants a legacy.  Reid wants it because re-election for him won't happen, so he wants to be the brave martyr to health care so that he can get a cushy lobbying job.  The progressives want it to enslave us all.  The rest, not so much.  In fact, they'd like to scuttle the whole thing and just spend money as usual.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 01:17 PM (T0NGe)

104

Every time this asshole opens his mouth...A military recruiter cries. And AQ laughs.

This prick is still trying to write off his hair plugs as "war wounds"!

Posted by: ace1200 at December 15, 2009 01:17 PM (dUR2C)

105 13 months in and Obama still can't find the tallest man in pokestan.

Posted by: ace at December 15, 2009 01:17 PM (PD1tk)

106 If I was a Democrat strategerist, I'd want Uncle Joe gently lowered into a warm, soothing bath, and then strangled. But then, that's just me.

Posted by: dr kill at December 15, 2009 01:18 PM (fnXhn)

107 Well yeah that and also One of Bin Laden sons is humpingsavagely beating Omar's daughters for appearing in public with an eyebrow showing I think.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 05:14 PM (0GFWk)

FIFY

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2009 01:18 PM (T0NGe)

108

Also : "Bin Laden, you magnificent Bastard...I read copied this from your book

The WINNAH!!!

Posted by: ace1200 at December 15, 2009 01:18 PM (dUR2C)

109 Biden accidentally let the truth out. At least Biden let the cat out of the bag.


Posted by: maverick muse at December 15, 2009 01:19 PM (+CLh/)

110 Biden accidentally let the truth out. At least Biden let the cat out of the bag. Posted by: maverick muse at December 15, 2009 05:19 PM (+CLh/) Well those of us with half a brain knew that all along.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 01:21 PM (0GFWk)

111

 WTF kind of mascot is an Orange?    Posted by: Truman North at December 15, 2009 04:45 PM (e8YaH)

A fruit. You can take that anyway you want.

Posted by: Acey Deucey at December 15, 2009 01:21 PM (3IZGh)

112

Is Biden ever a douche. He must think the Earth rotates around him!

Posted by: aceistotle at December 15, 2009 01:23 PM (2qU2d)

113

The commenters on this site are the funniest bunch of loonies I've ever had the pleasure to be among!

But while the hilarity ensues, the events we mock are deadly serious, and the scumbags who are trying to destroy our country pose a threat unlike any I've ever seen. ( And I've been around for a while!).

Keep swinging , fellow mainacs, let's laugh these lefty pukes off the stage!

 

Posted by: BIG ROB at December 15, 2009 01:25 PM (K2iC2)

114 As our Nobel B+ Prize winning Present has said, we're going to win this war. ...ballpark.

Posted by: Joe The Field Marshall at December 15, 2009 01:25 PM (WI039)

115 (peppy bumpy bass music)

Who let the truth out, Joe, Joe, Who let the truth out, Joe, Joe.

Posted by: Ace dogs at December 15, 2009 01:25 PM (DIYmd)

116 In five years the ice on Biden's hairplugs will have completely melted.

And he'll still be an idiot on an AmTrak train to the funny farm.

Posted by: algore at December 15, 2009 01:25 PM (gyoAZ)

117

Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood.
-George S. Patton

I said that, too!

Posted by: General Fightin' Joe Biden at December 15, 2009 01:27 PM (h9hzM)

118 Uncle Joe dabbled in country music too. Remember that old country classic Ode to Biden Joe? That was no stillborn child, no sir. Billy Joe McBiden and his best girl Obambi threw American foreign policy off the Tallahatchee bridge.

Posted by: dr kill at December 15, 2009 01:28 PM (fnXhn)

119 Hey! You, Biden! STFU!

Posted by: Ace in your face at December 15, 2009 01:29 PM (KVSUW)

120 120 Is Biden ever a douche. He must think the Earth rotates around him!

Posted by: aceistotle at December 15, 2009 05:23 PM (2qU2d)

No.  That's me.  It's all about gravity.  And twinkies.  Twinkies cause gravity.  It's settled science.  It's like gravity; it exists.

Posted by: Al Gore at December 15, 2009 01:29 PM (T0NGe)

121 Uh, I'm sure this has already been covered somewhere, but didn't ace say he was, uh, traveling all day and wouldn't be around? 

I've got a party planned for this place.  Fliers are handed out all over the place, already, and if he's still here it's going to end badly.

Posted by: Editor at December 15, 2009 01:30 PM (pUfK9)

122 Once again.

On behalf of the State of Delaware, I apologize for our current VP.

Posted by: Blue Hen aka Ace at December 15, 2009 01:31 PM (1O93r)

123 I suck. Really badly. Somebody kill me now.

Posted by: Al Gore's poem at December 15, 2009 01:31 PM (KVSUW)

124 Andrew Breitbart summoned to Grand Jury in NY tomorrow!!



Oy. That's gonna be epic.

"First Amendment, bitches. FYNQ"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2009 01:32 PM (l1Wlr)

125

I think Joe Biden is drunk 99.9% of the time.

Posted by: crystal at December 15, 2009 01:32 PM (KVSUW)

126 I think Joe Biden is drunk 99.9% of the time. Posted by: crystal at December 15, 2009 05:32 PM (KVSUW) Nah, he'd make more sense drunk

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2009 01:33 PM (0GFWk)

127

PS:  Someone should tell Vice President Biden to shut the f... up be a little more circumspect.  Maybe Gates should start the ball rolling. At the very least some Blue Dog should call for his censure in Congress.  Maybe even Senator John F. Kerry or Congressman John Murtha might even take it upon themselves to support the troops by suggesting to Vice President Biden that he makes such statements only when in more secure company - much like when National Security Advisor Jones was in Afghanistan listening to Marine Brigadier General Nicholson and his colonels talk about troop levels -

"Well, Jones went on, after all those additional troops, 17,000 plus 4,000 more, if there were new requests for force now, the president would quite likely have "a Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moment." Everyone in the room caught the phonetic reference to WTF -- which in the military and elsewhere means "What the [expletive]?"

Nicholson and his colonels -- all or nearly all veterans of Iraq -- seemed to blanch at the unambiguous message that this might be all the troops they were going to get."*

*Peter Favor 's Foreign Policy article - The White House and Woodward,  07/01/2009 - 10:27am

 

 


 


Posted by: davod at December 15, 2009 01:33 PM (GUZAT)

128 We know that MeMe and Slow Joe never met a surrender flag they wouldn't salute.

Anyone that thinks these two epic dumbasses didn't mean all along to punt away the war in Afghanistan as quickly and quietly as possible is daft.

We might as well have Sean Penn (piss be upon him) writing the war strategy.

The Obama freak show is rattling plastic sabres and everyone in the world with an AK and a hard-on for America knows it.

Posted by: sifty at December 15, 2009 01:34 PM (gyoAZ)

129 Oh, is everyone posting as Ace, today, in honor of Sarah's uterus?

Posted by: Editor at December 15, 2009 01:34 PM (pUfK9)

130 I'm confused....but I'm still moving to Illinois....or Kaboom!

Posted by: Akmed the Terrorist at December 15, 2009 01:35 PM (HXufv)

131 Why yes, yes we are.

Posted by: Ace's Uterus at December 15, 2009 01:36 PM (h9hzM)

132 yeah - I suppose if I scrolled down far enough I could have figured it out on my own.  But that's so far down there with all the content here.

Posted by: Editor at December 15, 2009 01:37 PM (pUfK9)

133

Twinkies cause gravity. It's settled science. 

Intercourse you, Fat Boy. Although you do prove that an asshole stays at rest unless acted upon by an asshole of equal farce, like Joe Biden.

Posted by: sir aceic newton at December 15, 2009 01:37 PM (2qU2d)

134 "Biden said: "the president has made something exquisitely clear to each of the generals: He said do not occupy any portion of that country that you are not confident within 18 months you're going to be able to turn over to the Afghans. Do not occupy what you cannot turn over."'

First, "exquisitely" clear?  Egads Joe, who talks like that? 

Second, what Joe seems to be saying is this:  Commanders, do not attempt to win something you aren't willing to turn around and lose a year later when we bug out due to squishy liberal politics.

Third, sure Joe, let's just telegraph to the enemy exactly what we're going to do.

Posted by: Intrepid (not Ace!!) at December 15, 2009 01:39 PM (92zkk)

135 The Obama Administration
Now with 100 percent less experience!

Collect them all!

Posted by: Aceshaw Jack at December 15, 2009 01:39 PM (ax/Au)

136 Yaba Daba Doo

Posted by: Say What? at December 15, 2009 01:40 PM (vwh8M)

137 Fun with literature (and stolen from Best of the Web).

When does a correction not need to be corrected:

"An error was edited into Robert Poppiti's column. The list of corrupt politicians should have included the name of former Louisiana Rep. William Jefferson, not William Jefferson Clinton."--correction, News Journal (Wilmington, Del.), Dec. 15

I think that this is a metaphor:

"The Nobel Committee rushed into bed with Obama. When the alarm bell rang the next morning, six Norwegians found themselves sleeping next to someone quite apart from the person they had viewed through gin-altered glasses the night before."--Bonnie Erbe, PoliticsDaily.com, Dec. 14

This analogy may be a tad too apt:

"The History Channel is planning its first scripted series and will base it on the Kennedys," the Associated Press reports: The cable network says the eight-hour series is called "The Kennedys" and will be told in a multigenerational manner akin to "The Godfather."

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 15, 2009 01:41 PM (xxgag)

138

First, "exquisitely" clear?  Egads Joe, who talks like that? 
Maybe he meant the mathematical term "elegantly"? That just proves that, for once, Aristotle is correct about him being a douche.

Posted by: sir aceic newton at December 15, 2009 01:41 PM (2qU2d)

139 Pres'Ent Toonces' administration: Losing the wars we'd already won.

If there's ever been a more clueless pile of fools occupying 1600 Pennsylvania, I've yet to see it.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner At Large at December 15, 2009 01:42 PM (erIg9)

140 Joe Biden gives a Christmas address to the troops:

Hey Guys and Gals!

Make sure those backup lights are working come Spring!

 And don't make a big deal about filling those sand bags!

Get used to losing!

Try not to murder too many innocent women and children before we can finish this retreat to please Code Pinko!

Merry Non-religion-affiliated December Holiday!

Posted by: sifty at December 15, 2009 01:44 PM (gyoAZ)

141

"Super Joe Biden, Now With Twice The Awesome Stupid Power!"

"Foreign Policy? - Stupid!

"Defense? - Stupid!

"Domestic Policy? - Stupid!

"Economy? - Stupid!

"Race Relations? - Stupid1"

"Super Joe, Now Stupider Than Ever."

Posted by: Billy Mays-Ace at December 15, 2009 01:45 PM (h9hzM)

142 Super Joe Stupid is proven to take grape juice stains out of white carpet.

And trillions out of the taxpayers.

Posted by: sifty at December 15, 2009 01:46 PM (gyoAZ)

143 Oh, man.  Someone give this guy a Blackboard and a Piece of Chalk.  Pleeeease!?!?

Posted by: Dan Quayle at December 15, 2009 01:48 PM (h9hzM)

144

Ok, there is no way we can win this thing. We have told the Tali-bad everything we are doing & intend to do.  We need to pull our troops out now,  ( that will really throw em) and not risk another young man or womans life.

We need to hunker down, right here at home & work on our boarders & those sleepers that are here already - Because this isnt about, you are on my side... move over.

They just want us dead & they wont stop until they try to do it.

Posted by: Say What? at December 15, 2009 01:48 PM (vwh8M)

145 OT -It looks like the dims in the Senate have finished paying everyone off.  Everyone now open wide or bend over, not sure where they are planning to shove the health care bill  Government take over of your entire life bill.  Enjoy!

Posted by: Ace at December 15, 2009 01:51 PM (oQIfB)

146 Fuck it, Bring them home---they've obviously got no intention of winning, why sacrifice any more of the boys?

Posted by: 48%er at December 15, 2009 01:53 PM (QOE7k)

147 The Tolleebon just need a big hug and a chai latte. And maybe a fat joint and some black-light posters of Alice in Wonderland and Bob Marley. And maybe to cut off some heads now and then or whatever. No big deal. Can't figure out why you all are hatin' on the Tolleebon.

Posted by: smacktard liberals at December 15, 2009 01:54 PM (gyoAZ)

148 Biden accidentally let the truth out. At least Biden let the cat out of the bag.

Biden couldn't find his way out of a paper bag.

Posted by: Ace Fish Stick at December 15, 2009 01:55 PM (iYbLN)

149 What The Hell Is Joe Biden Talking About On Afghanistan?

Excuse me, isn't that Ace Biden?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 15, 2009 02:00 PM (1hM1d)

150 The Left castigates Palin for "being stupid".  They've obviously never listened to Joey Biden speak.

Posted by: GarandFan at December 15, 2009 02:06 PM (ZQBnQ)

151 When the crooked as obama is out of town, does Joe qualify as the smartest guy in the room?  If he does, we've gone full re'tard.

Posted by: Jack Burton at December 15, 2009 02:15 PM (YxJoH)

152

PS:  Someone should tell Vice President Biden to shut the f... up be a little more circumspect.  Maybe Gates should start the ball rolling. At the very least some Blue Dog should call for his censure in Congress.

Posted by: davod at December 15, 2009 05:33 PM (GUZAT)

Why would they criticize Joe Biden?  He's the brains of that outfit!

Posted by: stuiec at December 15, 2009 02:15 PM (7AOgy)

153 91 Universal health care will not stop people from dying. Everyone dies.

OMG! I have it figured out! Vampires.

Great. Just great. Now I'm gonna have nightmares.

Posted by: Anachronda at December 15, 2009 02:15 PM (1OYcp)

154 YRM,

Remind them that "universal healthcare insurance reform control" is so popular and benevolent that Congresscritters have opted themselves out. I think. Who's to say since a) we haven't (and almost no one has) seen the bill, and b) it will be remodified to who knows what during reconciliation. None of that should inspire confidence. So, at last check, Congress will not partake in their own construct... whatever it is.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 15, 2009 02:16 PM (swuwV)

155

"the president has made something exquisitely clear to each of the generals: He said do not occupy any portion of Scranton that you are not confident within 18 months you're going to be able to turn over to IHOP. Do not occupy what you cannot turn over.  If you can't flip the flapjack, let it rest.  Scranton is a Hellhole, and we may have to nuke the place

Hey, we threw plugs outta here when he was 3! We could tell he was an asshole before he could talk. Hell, his first crayon drawing was plagarized.

Lets see you work 20 hours in a coal mine, and then play ball for 6 more hours after supper. Makes for a busy day when ya have to get up in 4 hours for waffles before work.

Posted by: ace1200 at December 15, 2009 02:18 PM (dUR2C)

156

"This is not a Coin [counterinsurgency] strategy," Biden said. "We just want to make sure that the Taliban is diminished enough so that the Afghan government can contain it."

What. The. Fuck? 

If Joe's brains were dynamite, he wouldn't have enough to blow his nose.

Posted by: SFC MAC at December 15, 2009 02:23 PM (cuNX0)

157 Joey always did love the "Biscuits with Sausage Gravy" two-fer special.

Posted by: Ace's Place at December 15, 2009 02:26 PM (KVSUW)

158 need air...must have air..

Posted by: Joe Biden's nutsack at December 15, 2009 02:27 PM (KVSUW)

159 Biden is the same kind of bald-faced liar that Gore is, interestingly enough.

Not after Christmas Vay-cay when me beard plugs have grown in

Glasses and a beard, you've never seen anyone stupid with glasses and a beard

Posted by: Ace Biden at December 15, 2009 02:33 PM (sYxEE)

160 Nothing like a Joe Biden post to crack me up all over again.

Keep bringin' teh funny

Posted by: aceprof at December 15, 2009 02:34 PM (I3Udb)

161 160 Biden accidentally let the truth out. At least Biden let the cat out of the bag.

Anyone seen my cat?

Posted by: Ace Biden at December 15, 2009 02:34 PM (sYxEE)

162

""According to a Senate aide, the White House is now threatening to put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list if Nelson doesn't fall into line."

I have read that the BRAC was the one truly independent commission.

Maybe not any more.

Posted by: davod at December 15, 2009 02:44 PM (GUZAT)

163 And they call me stupid? What a crock of poop-di-doody!

Posted by: Sarah Palin at December 15, 2009 02:45 PM (KVSUW)

164 Obligatory "Thank God we don't have that backwoods hick from Wasilla as our Vice President" remark. Someone let Joe know that the short bus is out front for him... and don't forget your drool cup, Joe.

Posted by: turfmann at December 15, 2009 02:54 PM (SgGTT)

165 Imagine president Biden... Now Imagine president BHO In that light, he gets a B+

Posted by: Ace of SpaB+es at December 15, 2009 03:10 PM (YZ+xp)

166 Joe's been doublin' down on the eggs 'n biscuits with sausage gravy.  Heavy on the gravy.

Posted by: Katie's at December 15, 2009 03:12 PM (UOM48)

167

178

Me too.

Posted by: Oprah Winfrey aka Okrah at December 15, 2009 03:20 PM (KVSUW)

168

Phrases I never thought I'd need for a hundred, Alex, -What is, "Boy, I miss Dan Quayle!"

It really takes a lot to make Dan Quayle look good.  What a fucking idiot.  Not only is our strategy weak, but now we told the whole world what it is.  Genius. 

 

Posted by: Penultimatum at December 15, 2009 03:38 PM (CIKgX)

169 Send  'Ol Joe my way. I could really use the help right now.

Posted by: St. Nick at December 15, 2009 03:43 PM (KVSUW)

170 I LOVE this guy!

Posted by: Mr. Tal-y-bahn at December 15, 2009 03:43 PM (KVSUW)

171 They told me that if I voted for McCain, we'd get a vice president who is a complete nincompoop... and they were right!

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 15, 2009 04:01 PM (ySpdZ)

172 Oral Roberts died today, but Anal Biden just keeps on truckin'

Posted by: Roy at December 15, 2009 04:53 PM (uVuFz)

173 Nothin like a Biden post to get teh funny here. You Morons are the best.

Posted by: Ace's Middle Finger at December 15, 2009 05:09 PM (3IZGh)

174 "What The Hell Is Joe Biden Talking About On Afghanistan?" —AceOne might just as easily ask "What the hell is Joe Biden Talking about?" whenever his lips are moving.  I mean, just because you think you understand him is not indication that you actually do.  And it's not because he's smarter than you, either, so don't let him pull that "I'm smarter than you" nonsense on you.

Posted by: yonason at December 15, 2009 05:33 PM (FJjN/)

175 Look, calm down folks.  The military has a proper term for brilliant strategies cooked up in Washingtonby politicians.  We used to call it "clusterfuck".  Its all good...until it goes bad.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 15, 2009 05:51 PM (ZKDbV)

176

Wow. Simply wow.

So this is the guy that's supposed to be better than Sarah Palin?  Scott Adams used to joke about people rising to their level of incompetence.  Ol slow Joe has risen fall indeed.

Posted by: Darth "Ace" Randall at December 15, 2009 07:12 PM (98AOY)

177 It was crystal clear from day one that the plan was not a COIN strategy being the publicized withdraw date completely guts the main aspect of fortifying Afghani's mindset that we are in for the long haul and won't leave them hung out to dry. The strategy couldn't work without that main aspect. Obama announced a surrender, pure and simple. Everyone should keep in mind that past generations of Americans literally fought and died against the vile ideology that our current POTUS is, rather successfully installing in our country. Our POTUS without a doubt stands with the Marxists/Communists and the muslims, Taliban or not.

Posted by: Drider at December 16, 2009 04:56 AM (HaJD9)

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