December 23, 2009
— Purple Avenger OMG, this is terrible. Last year it was only around 30% or so, now it over 50% of global warming that can be attributable to livestock!
(table summary line from page 2 of the PDF)Game over man. GAME. FREAKING. OVER.
Total GHGs attributable to livestock products ...≥51.0
Also, the NYT goes off the tracks printing a piece about how vegetarians are roughly equivalent to mass murderers because like...plants have feelings and shit...or something like that.
Naturally, even a significant percentage of their moonbat readers have ripped them a new one for taking that radical a stance. Curiously, some of them sympathize with the plants. All I can recommend for those folks as a way to maintain their moral "high ground" is the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. Those of us of weaker moral character will ummmm "celebrate" their passing.
The obvious answer to both these vexing problems was explored some decades ago in a little known film documentary. I think it was called Soylent Green or something like that...
[UPDATE] Owning a "medium" sized dog makes you the same in ClimateCriminal™ terms as driving an SUV 6,200 miles. Save the planet - eat your dog. Do it for the children. Do it tonight!
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How come the founders of the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement are still alive?
Shouldn't the movement have reached extinction pretty quickly? Who pays for their web site?
Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at December 23, 2009 04:51 PM (tDm8K)
vegetarians are roughly equivalent to mass murderers
that's right fuckers mass murderer...who wants a piece of me!
Posted by: evil libertarian at December 23, 2009 04:51 PM (KxYmA)
Posted by: steevy at December 23, 2009 04:51 PM (7lhcR)
Posted by: huerfano at December 23, 2009 08:50 PM (1+C5d)
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Ok, but what would we do for laughs?
Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at December 23, 2009 04:52 PM (tDm8K)
Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 23, 2009 04:53 PM (+deq6)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at December 23, 2009 04:53 PM (ttigb)
Posted by: huerfano at December 23, 2009 04:54 PM (1+C5d)
End of the big block from GM
That SUCKS! I really, really hope they have sold the plans to someone who appreciates them. There's no replacement for displacement. Fucking pussies.
Posted by: Dang Straights at December 23, 2009 04:55 PM (7wcCZ)
Posted by: Leathery Western Rancher Guy at December 23, 2009 04:55 PM (aC0uO)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at December 23, 2009 04:57 PM (w6Lfj)
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2009 04:57 PM (ttigb)
Posted by: Parker Griffith at December 23, 2009 04:58 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 23, 2009 04:59 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 23, 2009 04:59 PM (vKdhq)
1. Livestock is causing global warming.
2. The solution would be to kill all livestock.
3. But you can't kill the livestock, because they possibly have legal rights.
4. The solution??? Free range livestock and vegetarianism?
5. No, can't do that. Plants have feelings.
So, I'm guessing the only "logical" libtard solution is voluntary extinction? Is that correct?
/Wow, this is like reasoning with stoned squirrels....
Posted by: shibumi at December 23, 2009 05:00 PM (OKZrE)
Did you at least film that conversation for posterity and YouTube ?
Posted by: Iskandar at December 23, 2009 05:02 PM (DwKMY)
"All I can recommend for those folks as a way to maintain their moral "high ground" is the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. Those of us of weaker moral character will ummmm "celebrate" their passing."
I agree with PA. Why aren't we seeing some of these self-righteous assholes making the ultimate sacrifice and martyring themselves to help save the planet? If they don't want to go to that extreme, why don't they quit flying, quit driving, quit living in houses, working in buildings, wearing clothes, eating, breathing, quit having pets, stop having kids, etc. For some reason, I just don't see many of them even taking the small steps.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at December 23, 2009 05:03 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: PA Cat at December 23, 2009 05:05 PM (mi5Ub)
Posted by: Leathery Western Rancher Guy at December 23, 2009 08:55 PM (aC0uO)
Considering that cows are now producing 20% more gas than last year (farts deadly enough to cause snowstorms in Copenhagen and DC), I'm thinking some dastardly earth-hating super-villian must have taken a page from that Seinfeld episode with the horse.
That's it! Holy Gaia, Batman, Dick Cheney is feeding cows beans!
Posted by: Donna V. at December 23, 2009 05:05 PM (1eL3b)
Posted by: Kemp at December 23, 2009 05:06 PM (2+9Yx)
Hold on, hold on. I know a lot of folks are afraid of bovine change. Know this. If you like your cow, you can keep her. If you like your cow patty, you can keep that too. And it won't cost you a thing.
Not one dime.
And I mean it.
Posted by: President Toonces at December 23, 2009 05:08 PM (W+E+o)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 23, 2009 05:10 PM (s5x6i)
Actually there is an option for people who don't consume water, plants or meat: Breatharianism.
It leads to dehydration and an agonizing death. But, shouldn't a true believer be willing to make that sacrifice for Gaia?
Posted by: huerfano at December 23, 2009 05:12 PM (1+C5d)
Posted by: Iskandar at December 23, 2009 05:14 PM (DwKMY)
To summarize:
1. The earth is constantly bombarded by cosmic rays, which come from dying stars.
2. Cosmic rays hit the earth, and some of them cause charged particles in the atmosphere, which attract water droplets and form clouds.
3. When the earth has a greater amount of low altitude clouds formed by the cosmic rays, the earth cools. Less clouds, warmer surface temps.
4. The sun's magnetic field deflects some cosmic rays. When the sun is active, less rays, less clouds, warmer earth. Lazy sun, more rays, cooler earth.
5. When the earth passes through dense areas of the Milky Way, the sun can't overcome the cosmic rays, so we get an ice age.
Go watch this documentary. It's easy to understand, and you will be able to tell the global warming acquaintances of yours to go pound sand.
I found the link to this here several days ago as one of those tinyurl things. I am very grateful to whoever posted that. Seriously, go find this documentary and watch it. It's easy to understand and you will be amazed.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 23, 2009 05:14 PM (4DwVn)
For all of you mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, Philistine Luddites:
As a highly credentialed research scientist I can tell you that the views you fools scoff at are strongly supported by an enormous amount of rigorously reviewed data that gives proof to the current scientific consensus. As a community, we scientists simply cannot allow idiots like you to lead us down the path of planetary destruction.
Posted by: Trofim Lysenko at December 23, 2009 05:16 PM (7+pP9)
The Build-a-Bears were right!!! The ice caps will melt before THIS Christmas!!!!
Burn down McDonalds, burn down Burger King...
Posted by: BaB at December 23, 2009 05:16 PM (mMMRz)
Posted by: Doc Hollywood at December 23, 2009 05:17 PM (mMMRz)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at December 23, 2009 05:17 PM (RQ+qN)
If Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon take a shit in the woods, does Al Gore take a long position on carbon futures?
Posted by: Dang Straights at December 23, 2009 05:19 PM (7wcCZ)
As a highly credentialed research scientist I can tell you that the views you fools scoff at are strongly supported by an enormous amount of rigorously reviewed data that gives proof to the current scientific consensus. As a community, we scientists simply cannot allow idiots like you to lead us down the path of planetary destruction.
I would like to see the emails that confirm 51% livestock GHG emissions. Please consult UK science.
Posted by: Ministry of Fiction at December 23, 2009 05:20 PM (F8sIP)
Posted by: Dang Straights at December 23, 2009 08:54 PM (7wcCZ)
Dude, you crack me up.
Wow, this is like reasoning with stoned squirrels....
Posted by: shibumi at December 23, 2009 09:00 PM (OKZrE)
You too.
Posted by: Hollywood at December 23, 2009 05:21 PM (f2QL0)
Posted by: arhooley at December 23, 2009 05:21 PM (er1oz)
If you distill Leftism to its pure essence, what you'll get is the pustule that is VHEM.
At least they believe in preserving all life aside from humanity, well not anymore now that we know that animals have a huge carbon footprint.
Maybe that's next: the annihilation of all life period.
Yeah, that'll be next.
Posted by: RayJ at December 23, 2009 05:21 PM (YcjCJ)
They both found the other too conservative, each accusing the other of being a greedy capitalist running dog pig...
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at December 23, 2009 05:22 PM (22if9)
Dave C: Silly, buffalo gas was pure and organic and undoubtably wafted a sweet smell lovelier than Chanel No. 5 over the prairies.
Nasty agribusiness cow methane is a whole 'nother thing. Those are capitalist farts!
Posted by: Donna V. at December 23, 2009 05:24 PM (1eL3b)
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2009 05:26 PM (ttigb)
"Hey, somebody pull my finger."
If someone would be kind enough to pull my finger, I could fire all the pizza ovens in Naples, Florida.
Posted by: effinayright at December 23, 2009 05:27 PM (NyXB+)
Posted by: Intrepid at December 23, 2009 05:28 PM (92zkk)
Posted by: Barbarian at December 23, 2009 05:28 PM (EL+OC)
so I guess the best thing we can do is, like Dr Goebbels, kill our children and then kill ourselves (maybe our pets, too), but wouldn't all the methane from the billions of rotting corpses drive the greenhouse gas global warming thing over the tipping point that they keep barking about and make the oceans rise and maybe destroy all the coastal wetlands and stuff?
God... so difficult to be a brilliant caring leftwing asshat. I'm gonna have another drink and read some more of Malkin's book.
Oh, PS, who cares that Sarandon and Robbins split up? It's not going to get me a tax cut.
Posted by: Ira at December 23, 2009 05:28 PM (bJm7W)
I say instead of going after domestic livestock, let's go after animals that are less useful to us. First, we can nuke the caribou, because there are an awful lot of them walking around farting. Next, the obvious targets are the huge wildebeest herds in Africa. That should buy us maybe 100 hundred years or so. If there's still a problem, we go after the largest animals on the planet - whales and elephants.
Wouldn't that make these people happy?
Posted by: marmo at December 23, 2009 05:29 PM (Tm9Vp)
i always thought 'greenhouse gas' what what happened after a botanist's lunch, no?
Posted by: Nostriltastic at December 23, 2009 05:30 PM (taGwa)
I do. Schadenfraude. They kept fighting to see which one could be more insufferable.
They both lost.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 23, 2009 05:32 PM (s5x6i)
Posted by: eman at December 23, 2009 09:12 PM (ttigb)
Cow tipping is ALWAYS cool.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 23, 2009 05:34 PM (s5x6i)
Save the pets!
Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 23, 2009 05:35 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, Meteors, and Glen Fiddichs at December 23, 2009 05:36 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: drillanwr at December 23, 2009 05:36 PM (GkYyh)
I know this is going to sound macabre but I just don't think these climate scientists and nature worshipers are committed to their cause. I'm sorry - not buyin' it.
Look - these people are basically against human life and the life that humans have domesticated to support human life as either food or companionship.
From time immemorial, the ultimate measure of commitment to any cause has been whether a person was willing to die for that cause. Name your cause. Fact check it.
So bottom line is this; until millions of the army of Gaia start offing themselves enmasse every year on Earth Day, they are full of shit.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 23, 2009 05:36 PM (r1h5M)
Let me guess what their solution was without reading the article: We all eat our own shit.
Posted by: ®Dß®€W€® at December 23, 2009 05:38 PM (R7Evx)
"I will honor the vegans."
I've been honoring them , big time, all my life.
Oh crap --- I misread that as "vaginas".
Posted by: effinayright at December 23, 2009 05:39 PM (NyXB+)
So why is CO2 such a big deal?
Posted by: AmishDude at December 23, 2009 05:39 PM (s5x6i)
Posted by: Intrepid at December 23, 2009 05:40 PM (92zkk)
I'll be at your house early Christmas. I'll bring amazing molten chocolate baby cakes. Oh, and since I'm inviting myself, I'll also make a nice arugula salad with fresh pear, spiced pecans, and blue cheese.
*damn, now I'm hungry*
Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 23, 2009 05:41 PM (UOM48)
PJ O'Rourke summed up their attitude in the title of one chapter in his book "All the Troubles in the World"; Just Enough of Me, Way Too Much of You"
Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2009 05:42 PM (sYxEE)
Naturally, even a significant percentage of their moonbat readers have ripped them a new one for taking that radical a stance.
If the NYT had me in charge, there would be strict discipline in the comments section and those crazy plant hating denialists would be banned!
Call me Mr Sulzberger, and hit my tip jar on your way out
Posted by: Charles "Pinch" Johnson at December 23, 2009 05:49 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 23, 2009 05:49 PM (vKdhq)
Well, well. Whatta we got here. Bunch of religion-and-gun-clinging, man-made-global-warming-denying, meat-eating, livestock-fart-knockers-by-proxy.
Proud a yourselves?
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 23, 2009 05:51 PM (tm15w)
Posted by: RJ at December 23, 2009 05:52 PM (2jp4I)
When they came for the BACON.......
....they were annihilated by the hordes of bacon-lovers....
Posted by: TXMarko at December 23, 2009 05:53 PM (Cv5yq)
Posted by: Mcgruff at December 23, 2009 05:53 PM (houxp)
The vegan moonbats will be just as dense as ever.
Anyone one to take bets on the percentage of trust fund brats in that bunch?
Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2009 05:54 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Dees Nutz at December 23, 2009 05:55 PM (fHnpQ)
Maybe he's promising John McCain that he'll switch to the Republican party if he can just get a whiff of Meghan's boob sweat
Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2009 05:57 PM (sYxEE)
However, I have heard of a "movement" of libtards who want to "train" their pets to be vegetarians. Total insanity.
Jane: I've seen vegan dog food in stores. What's really ridiculous is that it was "soybean and thyme" flavored. As if dogs are gourmets who care about herbs and seasonings. Yeah, my old retriever started drooling and begging every time I got anywhere near the spice rack.
Vegan moonbats aren't content with trying to change human nature. They're now trying to change animal nature too. Good luck with that.
Posted by: Donna V. at December 23, 2009 05:57 PM (1eL3b)
I need a big block for my 62 Chevy C-10 now.
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at December 23, 2009 05:59 PM (ghGK6)
They will die off shortly after Starbucks stops opening its doors on a regular basis...
Posted by: TXMarko at December 23, 2009 05:59 PM (Cv5yq)
Posted by: John Galt at December 23, 2009 06:01 PM (Ylv1H)
Posted by: Vmaximus at December 23, 2009 06:03 PM (EESSb)
Posted by: Pelayo at December 23, 2009 06:03 PM (8NGHm)
However, I have heard of a "movement" of libtards who want to "train" their pets to be vegetarians. Total insanity.
I remember an episode of House where the vegan parents brought in a sick baby who was losing weight. House had to lecture them about the needs of an infant to have animal proteins to a baby's diet. Cuddy had them arrested for starving their baby.Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2009 06:04 PM (sYxEE)
I'm like a goddamned Captain Planet villain!
Posted by: Beppo at December 23, 2009 06:05 PM (kw/a+)
Look - these people are basically against human life and the life that humans have domesticated to support human life as either food or companionship.
It's all about hating other people.
Whatever you do, don't search for "anti civilization blog". It's just too fucking funny a concept, and yet there are ernest people ernesting all over themselves.
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2009 06:05 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Vmaximus at December 23, 2009 06:06 PM (EESSb)
That was Season 1 episode 18 titled "Babies and Bathwater" if you want to look it up or get the video of it
Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2009 06:09 PM (sYxEE)
Vegan moonbats aren't content with trying to change human nature. They're now trying to change animal nature too.
Respect nature, respect nature, stop eating that mouse, Fluffy!!1!
Posted by: Veggie Brain at December 23, 2009 06:09 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2009 06:10 PM (HylJ6)
Yeh, I'm sure the muslims who have 7 or 8 kids are down with that.
Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2009 06:12 PM (sYxEE)
At least they believe in preserving all life aside from humanity, well not anymore now that we know that animals have a huge carbon footprint.
Maybe that's next: the annihilation of all life period.
Yeah, that'll be next.
What are they going to do about the volcanoes?
Posted by: dagny at December 23, 2009 06:14 PM (N1Y7j)
What are they going to do about the volcanoes?
Once the humans are gone, the volcanoes won't be so angry.
Posted by: Veggie Brain at December 23, 2009 06:15 PM (Be4xl)
Where can I sign up for the Involuntary Human Extinction Movement?
Posted by: Pelayo at December 23, 2009 06:16 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: dagny at December 23, 2009 06:18 PM (N1Y7j)
Posted by: John Galt at December 23, 2009 06:18 PM (Ylv1H)
Posted by: Vmaximus at December 23, 2009 06:21 PM (EESSb)
Posted by: dagny at December 23, 2009 06:22 PM (N1Y7j)
Posted by: Vmaximus at December 23, 2009 06:24 PM (EESSb)
I'll be at your house early Christmas. I'll bring amazing molten chocolate baby cakes. Oh, and since I'm inviting myself, I'll also make a nice arugula salad with fresh pear, spiced pecans, and blue cheese.
*damn, now I'm hungry*
Posted by: Jane D'oh!
Door's open and there will be plenty. And that salad sounds devine!
Posted by: drillanwr at December 23, 2009 06:31 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: stuiec at December 23, 2009 06:47 PM (Ate22)
Animal farts cause 51% of global warming.
Global warming will cause the extinction of 1/2 of all species on Earth every year.
Doesn't that make the whole thing self-regulating?
Posted by: Eric at December 23, 2009 06:51 PM (Qc/s6)
I want a t-shirt that says that so I can go to AGW rallies and watch heads actually explode.
Posted by: Gekkobear at December 23, 2009 06:52 PM (KBg64)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at December 23, 2009 06:53 PM (sCvPP)
drillanwar,what's in the dry rub?
i've got a standing rib roast for tomorrow.
Posted by: redclay
Actually, that's what my sister calls it but it's really a paste.
Be sure to use a paper towel and dry the roast real good so everything sticks. Make a paste (food processor) out of either butter or olive oil, herbs (parsley, thyme, rosemary ... and sage if you want but I use very little), salt/pepper and horseradish. Fat side up and bone side down on the rack in the pan. Schmear-on the paste nice and thick over the top and sides of dried roast. Roast uncovered accordingly.
If you leave out the oil/butter it WILL be dry rub, which is fine also but the paste gives a great crust.
Posted by: drillanwr at December 23, 2009 07:04 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: redclay at December 23, 2009 07:08 PM (o1jFU)
Bite me!
And a Suburban.
Hahahahahaha!1111eeek!
Posted by: Vmaximus at December 23, 2009 10:03 PM (EESSb)" Well you think youre such a cute global destoyer...do you not!!!??
Posted by: Pompous Enviro at December 23, 2009 07:10 PM (houxp)
redclay -
Also good idea to let the roast sit for a bit on the counter out of the fridge to come close to room temp so it cooks more evenly. and remember to let it sit for 15-20 minutes before cutting into it to preserve the internal juices. meat therm. should be used to check. look online for guide to pounds vs temp vs time for done-to-order.
Posted by: drillanwr at December 23, 2009 07:27 PM (GkYyh)
"What I saw was profoundly shocking. The Chinese premier, Wen Jinbao, did not deign to attend the meetings personally, instead sending a second-tier official in the country's foreign ministry to sit opposite Obama himself. The diplomatic snub was obvious and brutal, as was the practical implication: several times during the session, the world's most powerful heads of state were forced to wait around as the Chinese delegate went off to make telephone calls to his "superiors"."
Whoaaaaa Mark, you're expecting me to believe that the Chinese premier isn't so wowed by B to the O's dynamism that he's ready to drop and give him mouth-hugs?
Come on, I know every world leader is ready to join hands and sing kumbyah as soon as B to the O enters the room. None of them would have the stones to snub him. Nor would they want to. I give your account and interpretation of the proceedings a B+.
Posted by: The Hammer at December 23, 2009 07:32 PM (Xgb9e)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 23, 2009 07:37 PM (xDTDj)
Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at December 23, 2009 08:02 PM (3QC07)
Posted by: jeff at December 23, 2009 08:18 PM (NhERI)
http://tinyurl.com/yb4vvws Unbelievably true, but the Comments are commedy gold.
Posted by: Joe at December 23, 2009 08:18 PM (0Gde6)
Posted by: Gary Rosen at December 23, 2009 08:28 PM (Vi8V1)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 23, 2009 09:09 PM (MphYv)
Or maybe we're just dealing with monumental stupid here.
Such mind-shattering, colossal, Earth-girding stupidity that it could, indeed, desire and end to itself.
So be it. Watch them end.
Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at December 23, 2009 11:09 PM (bxiXv)
Concurrent with their joining the VHEM they can start their <a href="http://www.spacedaily.com/news/food-03d.html">"Sunlight Diet" as studied by NASA</a>:
<blockquote>An Indian man, who claims to have survived only on liquids and sunlight for eight years, has been invited by NASA to show them how he does it.
Hira Ratan Manek - also known as Hirachand - a 64-year-old mechanical engineer who lives in the southern state of Kerala, apparently started disliking food in 1992, the Hindustan Times newspaper reported.
In 1995, he went on a pilgrimage to the Himalayas and stopped eating completely on his return.
His wife, Vimla, said: "Every evening he looks at the sun for one hour without batting an eyelid. It is his main food. Occasionally he takes coffee, tea or some other liquid."
Last June, scientists from the US space agency verified that Manek spent 130 days surviving only on water, the report said.
They even named this subsistence on water and solar energy after him: The HRM (Hira Ratan Manek) Phenomenon.
Mr Manek is now in the US to show NASA's scientists how he survives without food.
The US space agency hopes to use the technique to solve food storage and preservation problems on its expeditions, the report said.
Mr Manek said he "eats through his eyes" in the evening, when the sun's ultraviolet rays are least harmful. He and his wife claim the technique is totally scientific. However, doctors warn that staring at the sun can make you blind.
</blockquote>Posted by: Bobby at December 24, 2009 12:38 AM (axp7h)
Posted by: Ann NY at December 24, 2009 04:14 AM (n82VB)
From the Wikipedia link above on Breatharianism - "some groups and individuals promote the practice as a skill which anybody can learn through specific techniques, sometimes only after paying large fees"
I think I've found my next career. I can "teach" silly people how to not eat, thus saving the planet, making money, and getting some laughs all at the same time. This could be good.
Posted by: Penultimatum at December 24, 2009 05:38 AM (98agg)
Bleary-eyed reprobates they are. The mileage cap is higher than my actuals but there is a medium-sized dog that is hauled around in my Northstar-powered crossover. It is thrashed on a daily basis so that might make up the mileage difference. The vehicle, not the dog. He's pack leader around here unless the cats are around.
Posted by: Mazzuchelli at December 24, 2009 06:02 AM (SD1et)
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 23, 2009 09:14 PM (4DwVn)
Aw shucks. No problem.
CERN (as in the LHC) is running a battery of tests on the theory and has preliminary results which support Svensmark's conclusions, if I read their results correctly. Unlike AGW theory based on CO2 as a climate driver with clouds as a byproduct (which can't predict anything correctly, especially the last ten years), Svensmark seems to have hit on one of the main factors in Earth's cyclical temperatures.
There are other factors from Milankovich Cycles and volcanoes to sun spots, but cloud formation (or not) changes temperatures every day everywhere.
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