February 05, 2010
— DrewM ManBearPig hit hardest.
The Indian government has established its own body to monitor the effects of global warming because it “cannot rely” on the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the group headed by its own leading scientist Dr R.K Pachauri.The move is a significant snub to both the IPCC and Dr Pachauri as he battles to defend his reputation following the revelation that his most recent climate change report included false claims that most of the Himalayan glaciers would melt away by 2035. Scientists believe it could take more than 300 years for the glaciers to disappear.
... (India's Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh) announced the Indian government will established a separate National Institute of Himalayan Glaciology to monitor the effects of climate change on the world’s ‘third ice cap’, and an ‘Indian IPCC’ to use ‘climate science’ to assess the impact of global warming throughout the country.
“There is a fine line between climate science and climate evangelism. I am for climate science. I think people misused [the] IPCC report, [the] IPCC doesn’t do the original research which is one of the weaknesses… they just take published literature and then they derive assessments, so we had goof-ups on Amazon forest, glaciers, snow peaks.
The new group is going to do it's own study and who knows, it may come back with findings that support the claims of global warming supporters. My guess is they will be a lot more open with their data than previous studies have been and then the debate can be had. You know, like science is supposed to work.
Either way, the fact that a country as important as India has bailed on the IPCC makes it a lot harder for the Gaia worshipers to paint anyone who dares question the group as nuts. No doubt they will continue to but they'll sound even more defensive and out of touch in the process.
The crazy cult of Global Warming wasn't built overnight and it will take a while to get back to real science but the speed at which the taboos have been broken following ClimateGate is impressive.
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Posted by: The State Media at February 05, 2010 08:56 AM (7BU4a)
And most importantly, how do I get in on this scam?
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 08:56 AM (jpf1B)
You will BURN for your sins heretics.
Posted by: Sciency Gaians at February 05, 2010 08:57 AM (7BU4a)
Of course the nuts will all say that they are lyig because they did not want to cut back on CO2.
They are all fraud deniars.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 08:59 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: Houdini's Cadaver at February 05, 2010 08:59 AM (nz654)
Ooohhh! That's gonna leave a mark.
Posted by: stuiec at February 05, 2010 08:59 AM (GU29T)
I can't think of anything worse for science then truly independent groups testing our theories. This is like the dark ages.
Posted by: Michael Mann at February 05, 2010 09:00 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 05, 2010 09:01 AM (Cxsey)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 09:02 AM (jpf1B)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 12:56 PM (jpf1B)
Asking the important questions. I figure it's as easy as setting up a website. "Send your money, and we'll credit your account with the appropriate number of carbon credits." I'd love to get into the carbon-credit-selling business.
It's like the guy selling plots on Mars.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 05, 2010 09:02 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:02 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 09:02 AM (jpf1B)
Relying on the UN was your first mistake...
Posted by: Some Bosnian at February 05, 2010 09:03 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 05, 2010 09:03 AM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: Michael E. Mann, Climatoevangelist at February 05, 2010 09:04 AM (swuwV)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 01:02 PM (jpf1B)
Sigh. I read his book like twice. At least I got that Nobel Prize.
Posted by: Al Gore at February 05, 2010 09:04 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 01:01 PM (jpf1B)
I liked the phrase from the whistle-blower article, Church of Carbon Come.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2010 09:04 AM (xxgag)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 09:05 AM (jpf1B)
Posted by: brak at February 05, 2010 09:05 AM (W5NBA)
And we'll send you this handsome certificate, suitable for framing, printed on recycled toilet paper.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2010 09:06 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Amish Jack at February 05, 2010 01:04 PM (IhHdM)
And then the dinosaurs invented SUVs and everything went downhill.
Posted by: A well educated libtard at February 05, 2010 09:06 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Big Environment at February 05, 2010 09:06 AM (4jZ56)
Posted by: Amish Jack at February 05, 2010 01:04 PM (IhHdM)
Ah, a citizen with a knowledge of history. We'll be by your house shortly to give you a ride.
Posted by: Men in Green Hats at February 05, 2010 09:06 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: brak at February 05, 2010 01:05 PM (W5NBA)
Heh - my personal emissions never stopped me from making up end of the world scenarios, err telling truth to power.
Posted by: Al Gore at February 05, 2010 09:07 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: UN Climavangelists at February 05, 2010 09:07 AM (xxgag)
Too kind. The line they crossed was criminality.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 05, 2010 09:07 AM (swuwV)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2010 09:07 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:07 AM (AZGON)
Ah, a citizen with a knowledge of history. We'll be by your house shortly to give you a ride.
Posted by: Men in Green Hats at February 05, 2010 01:06 PM (1fanL)
How could we have failed so thoroughly with him? He actually knows facts?!?
Posted by: The NEA at February 05, 2010 09:08 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Rajendra Pachauri, Chief Climatologist at February 05, 2010 09:09 AM (TpXEI)
You guys see this? Scott Brown takes a swipe (back) at Patches Kennedy.
Link fail, it's at the Boston Herald front page.
Posted by: lincolntf at February 05, 2010 09:09 AM (V2pCF)
Posted by: Holger at February 05, 2010 09:09 AM (8NGHm)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 01:02 PM (jpf1B)
OK, but first I'll need a kilo of blow, some Quaaludes, and the proceeds from the sale of all your worldly possessions.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 05, 2010 09:10 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: ManBearPig at February 05, 2010 09:11 AM (RykTt)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 05, 2010 09:11 AM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:11 AM (AZGON)
Somehow I don't think that $2.98 is going to help much...
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 09:12 AM (jpf1B)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:12 AM (AZGON)
DHS: Fossil Fuels and Climate Change are ‘National Threats’
Dependence on fossil fuels and the threat of global climate change that can open the United States to disruptions and manipulations in energy supplies and to changes in our natural environment on an unprecedented scale. Climate change is expected to increase the severity and frequency of weather-related hazards, which could, in turn, result in social and political destabilization, international conflict, or mass migrations.
Fat and Fugly Janet should be fired. We need a Republican congress to “investigate this scrunt.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 09:12 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2010 09:13 AM (B+qrE)
OK, but first I'll need a kilo of blow, some Quaaludes, and the proceeds from the sale of all your worldly possessions.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 05, 2010 01:10 PM (5aa4z)
How about a kilo of snow, some aspirin and the contents of my sock drawer?
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 09:14 AM (jpf1B)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 05, 2010 01:11 PM (Vu6sl)
When I'm optimistic, I agree. Most of the time, I think, who but a bunch of racist tea-baggers knows about all this stuff happening in the last few months?
Posted by: FUBAR at February 05, 2010 09:14 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: Charles Johnson's Calendar at February 05, 2010 09:14 AM (wnU1W)
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 05, 2010 09:14 AM (Sghlv)
Climate change is expected to increase the severity and frequency of weather-related hazards, which could, in turn, result in social and political destabilization, international conflict, or mass migrations.
Probabilistic passive voice.
The first refuge of cowards.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2010 09:14 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:15 AM (AZGON)
Ah yes.
Droughts? Global Warming
Storms? Global Warming
Heat Wave? Global Warming
Cold Wave? Global Warming
Earthquakes? Global Warming
Obama'a wagyu is a bit cold? Global Warming
I see a pattern here, and there isn't much science in it...
By the way, when we retake the presidency in 2012, should we just declare government spending a threat to the national interest?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2010 09:15 AM (7BU4a)
When I'm optimistic, I agree. Most of the time, I think, who but a bunch of racist tea-baggers knows about all this stuff happening in the last few months?
Posted by: FUBAR at February 05, 2010 01:14 PM (1fanL)
Well, enough people found out about it to elect a Republican to "Ted Kennedy's seat" in MA.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2010 09:16 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:16 AM (AZGON)
Storms? Global Warming
Heat Wave? Global Warming
Cold Wave? Global Warming
Earthquakes? Global Warming
And none of those things have ever happened in the recorded history of man, much less the years before.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2010 09:17 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2010 01:15 PM (7BU4a)
Absolutely, even legislate it into law.
Constitutional Amendment limiting government debt and spending to a percentage of the GDP which would force Government to find ways to expand the economy in order to spend more money.
Posted by: Holger at February 05, 2010 09:17 AM (8NGHm)
Perhaps if they buy a calender I will unban them from the earth...
Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 05, 2010 09:18 AM (Cxsey)
The first refuge of cowards.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 05, 2010 01:14 PM (B+qrE)
I could be made to feel better about your sentiments, since the passive voice is hated in my vicinity.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 05, 2010 09:18 AM (1fanL)
The crazy cult of Global Warming wasn't built overnight and it will take a while to get back to real science but the speed at which the taboos have been broken following ClimateGate is impressive.
Heh, the crazy cult of Barak Obama was built practically overnight, it is taking America a while to get back to its founding principals, but the speed with which Teh Bamser has been destroying our country is impressive.
Posted by: runningrn at February 05, 2010 09:20 AM (CfmlF)
And most importantly, how do I get in on this scam?
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions
One technocrat involved with carbon trading, Richard Sandor:
"His company, London-based Climate Exchange PLC, has carved out a key role in Europe's booming trade in "carbon permits" -- essentially, buying and selling the right to pollute. Since 2005, the European Union has required major polluters to either cut the amount of carbon dioxide they spew, or buy pollution credits in the open market."
As others have noted, the price of carbon credits has dropped precipitously, from something around $7 per credit in 2008 to the current $0.10 on the CSX. Sandor is part owner of the CSX, the biggest US carbon exchange.
No one does audits for these credits yet, and I suspect no agency ever will.
Posted by: Iskandar at February 05, 2010 09:20 AM (/o58C)
How do our asses taste now?
Posted by: India's 1 Billion+ Population at February 05, 2010 01:19 PM (Vu6sl)
Like curry.
Posted by: Algore at February 05, 2010 09:20 AM (1fanL)
Science-y answers
end the debate, heretics!
Believe and repent.
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 05, 2010 09:21 AM (pZEar)
Storms? Global Warming Climate Change
Heat Wave? Global Warming Climate Change
Cold Wave? Global Warming Climate Change
Earthquakes? Global Warming Climate Change
This is fun.
Recession? Climate Change
Depression? Climate Change
Deflation? Climate Change
Hyperinflation? Climate Change
Acne? Climate Change
Erectile dysfunction? Climate Change
But:
Underwear bombers? GEORGE BOOOOOOSH
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:22 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2010 01:17 PM (mR7mk)
Our work is done here.
Posted by: NEA member who doesn't get satire at February 05, 2010 09:23 AM (7BU4a)
FIFY
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:24 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: MelodicMetal in MA at February 05, 2010 09:24 AM (x4S2a)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 01:22 PM (AZGON)
So did Global Warming, uh, Climate Change, cause George Bush, or did George Bush cause Climate Change?
Posted by: A Philosophical Libtard at February 05, 2010 09:24 AM (7BU4a)
No one does audits for these credits yet, and I suspect no agency ever will.
Carbon-trading is nothing more than protection money with a three-piece suit.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 05, 2010 09:27 AM (AZGON)
come on d00d like everyone knows halliburton and cheney are like teh evil behind teh global thermostat
they work for the jooooooos
peace out man
Posted by: average moonbat at February 05, 2010 09:29 AM (AZGON)
Storms? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault
Heat Wave? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault
Cold Wave? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault
Earthquakes? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault
This is fun.
Recession? Climate Change Bush's fault
Depression? Climate Change Bush's fault
Deflation? Climate Change Bush's fault
Hyperinflation? Climate Change Bush's fault
Acne? Climate Change Bush's fault
Erectile dysfunction? Climate Change Bush's fault
FYFIFY
Posted by: rockhead at February 05, 2010 09:30 AM (RykTt)
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 01:12 PM (QrA9E)
Having a crazy fat old dyke as the Homeland Security director endangers all of us.
If her transgendered girlfriend leaves her for a high school cheerleader, she may get all PMS-y and nuke Zambia.
Think of the children!
Posted by: TexasJew at February 05, 2010 09:31 AM (dcKUM)
Storms? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Heat Wave? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Cold Wave? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Earthquakes? Global Warming Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Recession? Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Depression? Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Deflation? Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Hyperinflation? Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Acne? Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Erectile dysfunction? Climate Change Bush's fault "I inherited this."
Makes me wish I stayed in the Senate.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obastard at February 05, 2010 09:35 AM (AZGON)
“There is a fine line between climate science and climate evangelism."
Is there really? I might argue that there is a huge divide between scientists that look objectively at data to prove or disprove theories and people acting to accomplish an agenda.
I know it is just PC jargon, but that is like saying:
"There is a fine line between a hard news story and an editorial piece."
Posted by: California Red at February 05, 2010 09:37 AM (X2i5s)
My guess is they will be a lot more open with their data
If by open you mean you can get the data as long as you pay a not-so-small fee, then yeah, the data will be available.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 05, 2010 09:56 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Jeff at February 05, 2010 09:58 AM (KHmJW)
All of the evidence of fraud and the studies that show the AGW scam is just that, a massive fraud have no impact on these idiots.
The official meme from the fraud deniars on the Weather Channel is that a few bad apples do not cause the entire theory to be voided.
I guess that is the official line now. Keep in mind that there are milloons of diots who still watch the MSM and that even Fox supports the AGW scam as well.
Not all people have access to the studies that we do.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 10:01 AM (QrA9E)
India's Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh bought an outdoor thermometer, a rain gauge, a pencil and a notepad.
Now fuck off.
Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2010 10:23 AM (UA4gE)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2010 10:36 AM (FRjqd)
Their line is perforated.
Posted by: Jack at February 05, 2010 11:13 AM (bvDV5)
It's good to know that at least on nation's politicians have seen thru this charade.
Posted by: drfredc at February 05, 2010 11:41 AM (ljMiA)
The U.N.'s climate chief dismissed "nefarious" global warming skeptics this week by insinuating that they are deep in the pockets of big business -- and suggested that they go rub their faces in cancer-causing asbestos.
...
His critics in the business world, he told the paper, "see climate change as a threat to their own comforts, their own convenience and the generation of easy profits." He accused them of establishing a network of lobbyists in D.C. "trying to write all kinds of malicious articles and indulge in invective."
"It's all part of a pattern," he continued. "But let me clarify. I have no proof. I can only presume something like this is at work."
But we have proof ;">Rajendra Pachauri knew about the lies he was peddling. Honest thieves rob liquor stores with a shotgun. Scumbags like ;">Rajendra Pachauri demand you bow down and thank them for raping you.
Posted by: DANEgerus at February 05, 2010 11:50 AM (LMi2C)
The charlatans behind global warming science are the same "conservangelists" behind fisheries science in the US- Pew, Packard, Allen, Moore foundations, all into the fishing "environmental" groups for millions of dollars per year, as they also are with "global warming" science.
US retail fish stocks are in the best shape in 20 years 78% not overfished, 82% no overfishing occurring- but the head NOAA lead, Jane Lubchenco has been in the tank for Pew and Packard via EDF for the last 20 years making $millions$ proclaiming the oceans are emptying.
Ask any Californian how marine protected areas came to be without any science--but with "theoretical" science instead--in other words they made it up and the folks in California were so loopy they assumed an eneviro sits to thte right hand of god, not understanding that yes Virginia, even enviros LIE.
In 2003, US News and World Report proclaimed 90% of the sea was fished out and all that would be left was jellyfish based on a "science" report funded by Pew by a Boris Worm. You remember the headlines, all the fish gone by 2048--surprise surprise, another "headline" moment detailed for the media.
What the writer didn't tell you, Tom Hayden, science editor for US N& WR, was six months before the article, he was in Bonaire on Pew's dime teaching a workshop at the Annual Pew Marine Fellows meeting on how to present your story to the media, with mock presentations and mock interviews. So was Cory Dean of the NYT, Natasha Loder of the Economist, NPR and a former Time correspondent all helping the advocacy based gang to refine their message.
Then 6 months later and the cover story breaks, and lo and behold, of the 14 people interviewed, an apparent cross section of concerned earthlings, 13 out of 14 received their funding $ directly or indirectly through Pew and it's enviro spin offs like Sea Web, Ocean Conservancy, WWF, NRDC, EDF etc. No mention that he was there on Pew's dime snorking and sailing with them for five days in Bonaire...zippo. In fact, for two years prior he was doing the same job-colluding with scientists on how to present their "message" for Lubchenco's Pew funded Aldo Leopold Foundation.
We in the fishing industry in the US have been trying desperately to get this story out but the media colludes with the enviros and the enviros fund and create "science" that the journalist don't take the time to search to see if it's real science or peer reviewed or reviewed by who...which is how they operate too, they write a paper, they all like hyenas comment and agree and footnote each other, giving it the illusion of acceptance.
If anyone reading this has any sway with any news organization that would like to dig deeper to the other hand of the "global warming" scandal, the "US fisheries science" scandal, please comment below as to how I can get in touch with you. I have been trying for the last year to get anyone, Fox, National Review, anyone, to listen. MSM wants no part in it because many are colluders. I have the proof.
US fisheries are now being forced into a "catch share" scenario propagated by the Obama administration because he's paying off Pew and Packard for being elected with Lubchenco- with the ultimate goal of capacity reduction aka loss of jobs and communities not because of a lack of fish, but a lack of honesty. Google status of the stocks, the truth is there, but the conservangelists don't care about the truth or the folks who work with their hands and may not have a college degree who look different from them, or sound different. It's elitist warfare, they have all the $$ and spin on their side, we only have the truth.
And the US public, most of whom don't know the fishing communities, are none the wiser. Meanwhile fishing communities are being exterminated through false science and lots of $$ in media spin.
For more information, go to www.gloucestertimes.com and read the stories under the fishing industry.
Please help us if you can
Thank you in advance
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Wow, that's a lot of banning to do for CJ.
Posted by: Dang Straights at February 05, 2010 08:54 AM (fx8sm)