February 14, 2010
— DrewM Luge, Nordic Combined, Biathlon and other crazy stuff you only see in the Winter Olympics.
Most important however is the Men's Hockey tournament which gets underway on Tuesday. In a never ending effort to get you football heads to appreciate the great game that is hockey, tmi3rd put together a look at the tournament (see below).
If you don't know much about hockey take a look at this classic Peter Puck video. If your of a certain age, it's probably how you learned about the game. Yes, it's dated (ignore the bit about 'two line passes', that's been dropped from the rules) but it's essentially the School House Rocks of hockey.
Here's tmi3rd's preview...
Greetings, fellow Morons. As a college hockey vet and now just interested hockey fan, itÂ’s nice to have the Olympics roll around every four years to have the rest of the country become distantly aware of a vastly-overlooked but great sport.
For those of you who donÂ’t know the difference between a blue line and a clothes line, Drew and I (your faithful hockey scribes) will cheerfully educate you with only the requisite amount of humiliation that the Moron Nation demands.
So letÂ’s get started. First of all, the Games are going to be in Vancouver- meaning that key matchups will be played in prime time, with a possible adjustment for the region (not unlike if youÂ’re a Lakers fan living on the East Coast or in the Midwest). The hockey games will take place at what is being called Canada Hockey Place (capacity 19,300, and formerly calledGM Place, home of your Vancouver Canucks) and at UBC Thunderbird Arena (capacity 6,800 on the campus of the University of British Columbia).
The NHL has its top players in these games. This may come to an end in 2014, but we’ll enjoy this one. Hockey doesn’t lend itself to the “Dream Team”-kind of setup like with basketball, because no one country dominates the sport. Even Canada- hockey’s home country- ended a massive drought of gold medals in Olympic competition in the Salt Lake games. Russia went through a very dry patch after the breakup of the Soviet Union and has only lately begun to reassert itself. And, of course, the United States are usually solid but not spectacular.
HereÂ’s a link to the complete hockey schedule.
There are twelve teams divided into three groups that play a round-robin format (3 games), and are then re-seeded 1-12 for elimination. Teams 1-4 will have a first-round bye, and they play single-elimination from there.
We mention this because the IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) canÂ’t ever make up its mind how it wants to handle the tournament year to year. So we just roll our eyes and make do.
So letÂ’s break down some of the key teams by groups from here:
Group A: Canada, Norway, Switzerland, United States
Canada could probably ice two teams that would have a shot at a gold medal. They start with ridiculous depth in goal, with New JerseyÂ’s future Hall Of Famer Martin Brodeur and VancouverÂ’s Roberto Luongo as their primary goaltenders. Their backup, PittsburghÂ’s Marc-Andre Fleury, made a game-saving save with two seconds left to win the Stanley Cup last year.
On defense, Canada boasts a ton of talent. AnaheimÂ’s Scott Niedermayer and PhiladelphiaÂ’s Chris Pronger (bona-fide hockey rock stars) anchor a talented blue line that also includes NashvilleÂ’s Shea Weber and San JoseÂ’s Dan Boyle. They combine size with speed and physicality, and do a fair amount of scoring in their own right.
At forward, one looks at CanadaÂ’s roster and has to kind of shake your head. Sidney Crosby, Joe Thornton, Eric Staal, Jarome IginlaÂ… the list goes on and on. These guys are a big chunk of the top-flight forwards in the game. Big, skilled, and physical.
Canada are obviously favorites to win the whole thing, especially on their home ice. The one thing theyÂ’ll be acutely aware of is how much pressure theyÂ’ll have on them to win from their fansÂ… the Canadian press is known to turn on its hockey teams when theyÂ’re not perfect. Look for them to play a strong defensive game and be opportunistic offensively.
The United States historically pulls off a great tournament about once every 20 years. 1960, 1980, 2002, and so forthÂ… they won the World Cup of Hockey in 1996 in front of a very hostile Canadian crowd over a three-game series. Expectations arenÂ’t terribly high for this group, but it does have its strengths.
In goal, BuffaloÂ’s Ryan Miller is coming in playing as well as anyone in the game. BostonÂ’s Tim Thomas and LAÂ’s Jonathan Quick have been streaky this year, but Quick is leading the league in wins, and Thomas had a great run with Boston last year.
The US lost two of its key defensemen to injury in TorontoÂ’s Mike Komisarek and New JerseyÂ’s Paul Martin. That hurts. They still have a solid corps in NashvilleÂ’s Ryan Suter, DetroitÂ’s Brian Rafalski, and St. LouisÂ’s Erik Johnson. TheyÂ’re young and physical, and can occasionally chip in a fair amount of offense.
Up front, there isnÂ’t a whole lot of star power. Given how young these guys are (average age is around 22-23 years old), the key for them will be disciplined play. They do have firepower in ChicagoÂ’s Patrick Kane, TorontoÂ’s Phil Kessel, New JerseyÂ’s Zach Parise, and AnaheimÂ’s Bobby Ryan, but the depth leaves something to be desired. Look for them to play a more methodical game-very careful defensively, and more of a counter-punching strategy offensively.
Switzerland has a couple of talented players- former Colorado goaltender David Aebischer, to name one- and did pull off a couple of upsets last time. Norway lacks any real firepower or name players, and will likely trail the pack.
Projected finish in group A: 1. Canada 2: USA 3: Switzerland 4: Norway
Group B: Czech Republic, Latvia, Russia, Slovakia
The Czech Republic last won gold in 1998 in Nagano with a defensively perfect game and some of the most boring hockey ever played. Since then, they havenÂ’t done as well, but they have plenty of firepower from Jaromir Jagr, ColoradoÂ’s Milan Hejduk, and New JerseyÂ’s Patrik Elias.
Defensively, they have some names, but guys like MontrealÂ’s Roman Hamrlik and MinnesotaÂ’s Marek Zidlicky are going to need to spend more time playing defense than the scoring theyÂ’ve previously been known for.
In net, FloridaÂ’s Tomas Vokoun has been superb for years.
Slovakia will also play some tough hockey. ItÂ’s a shame fighting isnÂ’t allowed in Olympic hockey, because the Czechs and Slovaks donÂ’t like each other. In their World Cup of Hockey encounters, the games periodically would resemble a bar fight more than a game.
At forward, they boast names like the NY RangersÂ’ Marian Gaborik, DetroitÂ’s Marian Hossa, and PittsburghÂ’s awesomely-named Miroslav Satan. TheyÂ’ll score a good number of goals.
On defense, the Slovaks boast two 6’7”, 230-lb defensemen- Boston’s Zdeno Chara and Kristian Kurdoc of the Swedish Elite League. They obviously have size, but will have some vulnerabilities.
In goal, the Slovaks have two middle-of-the-road goaltenders in ColoradoÂ’s Peter Budaj and MontrealÂ’s Jaroslav Halak.
Russia is the favorite in this group, and maybe in the whole shooting match. Their firepower is unmatched. Up front, they may start a line of WashingtonÂ’s Alexander Ovechkin, PittsburghÂ’s Evgeni Malkin, and New JerseyÂ’s Ilya Kovalchuk. ThatÂ’s a ton of star power, and it doesnÂ’t really fall off from there.
RussiaÂ’s Achilles heel will be their defensive corps. PittsburghÂ’s Sergei Gonchar and MontrealÂ’s Andrei Markov are the headliners on a group of defensemen who play on porous defensive teams. They lack stay-at-home defensemen to match up with their scorers, and that may cost them against solid defensive teams.
They make up for their defensive shortcomings in net- San JoseÂ’s Evgeni Nabokov and PhoenixÂ’s Ilya Bryzgalov are the equal of just about anyone in hockey at the moment.
Projected finish in Group B: 1. Russia 2. Czech Republic 3. Slovakia 4. Latvia
Group C: Belarus, Finland, Germany , Sweden
The two big hitters in this group are Finland and Sweden (insert Scandi jokes here). The Swedes won the gold against Finland in 2004, and both are quick, tough and physical. These are two teams that also donÂ’t like each other.
Sweden boasts forwards like DetroitÂ’s Henrik Zetterberg and VancouverÂ’s Sedin twins, along with perennial pest Tomas Holmstrom of Detroit. Peter Forsberg has decided to give his gimpy ankles a run as well.
On defense, Sweden has future Hall of Famer Nicklas Lidstrom (Detroit) to anchor a young defensive corps. Though solid, their lack of experience may be a bit of an issue.
In net, the RangersÂ’ Henrik Lundqvist is the defending gold medal winner- although heÂ’s been very inconsistent this year, just ask Drew (Drew says...Actually, he's had maybe 2, 2-3 game streaks where he wasn't great but overall he's been fantastic behind a very mediocre team. More importantly, he's playing his best hockey of the season the last week or two). HeÂ’ll be backed up by TorontoÂ’s Jonas Gustavsson, who is on the rise but needs to gain experience.
Finally, Finland preaches a defense-first mentality that also has impressive counter-punching ability. TheyÂ’re a little long in the tooth, but will still be quite formidable.
Up front, Teemu Selanne, Jarko and Tuomo Ruutu, Jere Lehtinen, and Olli Jokinen headline a very solid-two-way group of forwards. TheyÂ’ll score enough goals, but will also suffocate other teams defensively. If Finland plays their game, they wll be a test of any teamÂ’s conditioning.
On defense, PhillyÂ’s Kimmo Timonnen and VancouverÂ’s Sami Salo lead a big, physical defensive corps that moves the puck well. Each of FinlandÂ’s six defensemen seem to have an ideal mix of defendersÂ’ attributes with the puck skills to get the puck to the net.
In net, Finland may have the deepest goaltending outside of Canada. MinnesotaÂ’s Nicklas Backstrom, CalgaryÂ’s Mikka Kiprusoff, and Tampa BayÂ’s Antero Nittymaki are absolute rock stars. Any of the three can steal games on their own.
Group C Projected Finish: 1. Finland 2. Sweden 3. Germany 4. Belarus.
In the bigger picture, figure that Canada, Russia, Finland, and either Sweden, the Czechs, or the US will get the bye in the elimination round. Single elimination games are probably more precarious in hockey than even the NCAA basketball tournament. Case in point- in Salt Lake City, Belarus defeated Sweden in single elimination, after Sweden had dismantled eventual gold medalist Canada. Belarus won on one bad bounce, poorly played by Swedish goaltender Tommy Salo.
Translated: trying to guess beyond the first round is an exercise in utter futility.
Anyway, thatÂ’s a primer. Drew and I will weigh in down the road. Team USAÂ’s first game is against Switzerland at noon on February 16.
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Posted by: toby928 at February 14, 2010 10:31 AM (PD1tk)
Peter Puck? Wow. I feel old. Got any Schoolhouse Rock videos?
Posted by: Luca Brasi at February 14, 2010 10:33 AM (sHSdO)
I keep waiting for the Olympics to add a real mans sport like Tranvestite Jello Wrestling. Until then.....
....I bid you adieu.
Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 14, 2010 10:34 AM (t72+4)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 10:35 AM (p302b)
Posted by: chemjeff at February 14, 2010 10:38 AM (Gk/wA)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 10:44 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 14, 2010 10:44 AM (P33XN)
Turn in your man card, chemjeff. Even I understand icing! ;-)
I always enjoy hockey (North American style, with checking) when I watch it, but I can't become a fan until they start broadcasting it more consistently. I'm not going to pay for an NHL package to get into a sport.
Posted by: Y-not at February 14, 2010 10:48 AM (X69zM)
Drew, about that proposal at the Rangers game you have linked in the sidebar to Twitter, is there video of it?
Posted by: Blazer at February 14, 2010 10:53 AM (t72+4)
Not that I've seen yet but when they game back from a commercial the announcers talked about it.
Posted by: DrewM. at February 14, 2010 10:55 AM (9B5OK)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 10:55 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 14, 2010 10:56 AM (erIg9)
Actually, according to Brandon Dubinski, it's "Little Baby".
I agree but in fairness, Crosby is great. He's also cut a lot of the diving out and he's a tough kid. He gets hit a hell of a lot more than a guy like Gretzky ever did.
Still Ovechkin is by far the best player in the game.
Posted by: DrewM. at February 14, 2010 10:59 AM (9B5OK)
Posted by: DrewM. at February 14, 2010 02:59 PM (9B5OK)
yep. that I'd agree with. AO is one I would trade half the sabres for in a heartbeat
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 14, 2010 11:02 AM (erIg9)
Hockeh -
Where the men are men and the Dentists use no anesthesia!
It's about time you morons learned what an athlete looks like...and remember they are on fuckin' ice! So, when you run into them at a bar - don't pick a fight.
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 11:02 AM (UNOPX)
Posted by: Pecos Bill at February 14, 2010 11:05 AM (8WOM0)
I'm not going to pay for an NHL package to get into a sport.
Worth it for the reduced rate come playoff time!
...but find a good local bar that plays hockey games and make a point to watch one or two a week with teh local fans. It will aid in your journey, grasshopper.
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 11:06 AM (UNOPX)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 14, 2010 11:07 AM (muUqs)
a never ending effort to get you football heads to appreciate the great game that is hockey
So you're a social engineer, too, huh.
Posted by: The One at February 14, 2010 11:11 AM (gbCNS)
BTW - Datsyuk is a way better hockey player than Ovie. Ovie is not yet as compete as Pavel.
Sedin Brothers, Zetterberg, Havlat, Kovalchuk, Gaborick, Malkin, Kane, Toews, Hossa, J., Thornton, Getzlaf, Iginla...really, the league is stacked with ridiculous talent. Good time to be a Hockey fan.
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 11:11 AM (UNOPX)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 14, 2010 11:14 AM (muUqs)
...but find a good local bar that plays hockey games and make a point to watch one or two a week with teh local fans. It will aid in your journey, grasshopper.
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 03:06 PMYeah, that's a good idea.
Actually, I've offered to accompany Mr. Y-not to our local minor league team's games. I even offered to dress like a hockey bimbo and try to get selected to go out of the ice during intermission (do they still do that?).
Because I'm a giver.
Posted by: Y-not at February 14, 2010 11:17 AM (X69zM)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 14, 2010 11:21 AM (muUqs)
Posted by: Hanson Brothers at February 14, 2010 11:21 AM (Nu1ow)
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at February 14, 2010 11:23 AM (utJ0x)
Oh yea, and cross-country epic picture taking, they need to add that one too. I'm pretty sure I could medal in that one.
Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 14, 2010 11:23 AM (t72+4)
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 14, 2010 11:25 AM (y4B2y)
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at February 14, 2010 11:25 AM (utJ0x)
#23
Datsyuk is IMO the best center on the planet. However, I'd have to respectfully disagree with your Ovie comments. #8 is a freak of nature. Players of his caliber might come along every other generation or so in their respective sport.
Posted by: Cheney's Power Mane at February 14, 2010 11:25 AM (wlE4Z)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 14, 2010 11:26 AM (muUqs)
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at February 14, 2010 11:28 AM (utJ0x)
Versus, I believe. Formerly the Outdoor Channel.
Of the four major sports, Hockey is the one that's much better in person than on TV.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 14, 2010 11:30 AM (y4B2y)
Posted by: don't mess with Dick at February 14, 2010 11:31 AM (Ue9UN)
I'd pay good money to see Dick Cheney play hockey.
Well one things for sure, we know what he'll be smacking that puck around with.
Posted by: Blazer at February 14, 2010 11:33 AM (t72+4)
Primer? That's as good an analysis as there is.
BTW, offsides is the key to hockey. On offense, you have to do what Peter Puck said: get the puck across the blue line. On defense, the first objective is to get the puck back across the blue line into center ice, which forces all of the attacking players to also go back out into center ice.
Also worth noting is how penalties are assessed. A player who commits a penalty leaves the ice, giving his team the disadvantage of being outnumbered (usually) for two minutes. The team with the advantage is said to be on a power play, with the disadvantaged team to be penalty killing. Icing is not called against a penalty killing team.
Sorry to extend the primer. It's just that I've found that new fans of the game enjoy it a lot more if they get these points. Everything else is details.
Go, USA! (Though I think Slovakia is going to surprise a lot of people.)
Posted by: FireHorse at February 14, 2010 11:34 AM (cQyWA)
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 14, 2010 11:34 AM (ekqTc)
Posted by: Semper Gumby at February 14, 2010 11:35 AM (wlE4Z)
Posted by: Dude at February 14, 2010 11:37 AM (TmzDu)
Posted by: Herr Blücher at February 14, 2010 11:37 AM (OLnQ/)
Ah, his ticker couldn't take it. I like him where he is, being a pain in the ass to the administration and driving the libs apoplectic.
I never understand why the lefties get so unhinged about Cheyney (although it's highly amusing). When you hear him speak, he's sober, intelligent, reflective, low key. He's not a bomb thrower. He sounds eminently intelligent and believable and has gravitas in spades. And he's so adept at sticking the shiv in and twisting it, all without raising his voice.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 14, 2010 11:38 AM (y4B2y)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 14, 2010 11:40 AM (muUqs)
Can't wait. Most of the clubs have real burners. If you love hockey like I do you'll appreciate the dipsy doodle moves, speed and toughness. The best goalies in the world are here also. This is the winter olympics.
Calgary is a hockey Mecca. The olympic organization for Hockey Canada is headquartered here. The Flames are one of the cornerstones of the NHL. We get 20k sellouts for the junior Hitmen. The amateur hockey is non stop. The Mac's Midget tounament is the World's best. We set the Guiness record for the most players in a weekend tournament, with close to 12 k players in our 3on 3 pond hockey. This went 24 hours a day for 3.5 days. Do you know that there are over a quarter of a million Americans in Calgary? Many are superb hockey players. I know because I play with and against some of them. The college guys are quite skilled. Of course, i'm taken about the alzeimers age group.
There's a huge contingent of Calgary fans helping Vancouver in all the sports.
Posted by: chicocano at February 14, 2010 11:41 AM (6p3E9)
y-not - minor league hockeh is awesome and fun and the cuties gets to shoot the puck at intermission time!
33 - Ovie can be the best ever. Certainly a combo of physical prowess and skill like none other...but he has a really hot head. Takes a lot of cheap shots at other star players. He lacks the ability to puck hound like Datsuyk. He has the skill set and the vision, bt he lacks the experience and throws himself at the game with a little too much abandon, for me.
It kills me to say it as the ex-wife is from Detroit, but Pavel would still be my first choice in a league wide draft. He makes every player on the ice with him better. His hands and his eyes are without parrallel right now. (no doubt Dr. Ramadhi is part of this equation!)
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 11:41 AM (UNOPX)
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 14, 2010 11:42 AM (y4B2y)
Also, Ovechkin plays with an edge that is likely to catch up with his body, like Pavel Bure or Cam Neely. I suspect Ovechkin will have a shorter career than Crosby, or at least won't be able to maintain the numbers over the long haul.
Posted by: Beaver Paladin at February 14, 2010 11:47 AM (EeyGc)
Who fed the Chinese team downers before the game started?
Lookin' a little slow out there...
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 14, 2010 03:46 PM (P33XN)
Maybe they're just depressed because someone owes them a whole lot of money.
Posted by: Blazer at February 14, 2010 11:47 AM (t72+4)
Posted by: eman at February 14, 2010 11:48 AM (4tixt)
41 ...ALL ON ICE!
[Three-Five Fames per week...as opposed to one every 8 days on average for Football (teh gheyest).]
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 11:53 AM (UNOPX)
Posted by: toby928 at February 14, 2010 11:53 AM (PD1tk)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 14, 2010 11:54 AM (P33XN)
BTW, I might buy the "Ovechkin is best" line when the Caps get past the Penguins and then win the cup. He's been working with just as much supporting talent as Crosby, and got beat last year. Ovechkin is the best scorer. Crosby is second or third best scorer, best faceoff man (leads league in faceoff wins), best shootout guy (6 of
Posted by: forest at February 14, 2010 11:55 AM (cRmbe)
Posted by: mystry at February 14, 2010 11:57 AM (kmgIE)
There's no hard and fast distance, it's kind of a feel thing. The important part is the player coming on can't touch the puck until the player he is replacing is off the ice.
Posted by: DrewM. at February 14, 2010 11:57 AM (9B5OK)
The rule if 5 feet. Still, there's no line or anything, it's a bit of interpretation thing by the linesmen if they are going to call something.
Posted by: DrewM. at February 14, 2010 12:00 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: Z Ryan at February 14, 2010 12:01 PM (cMo6P)
It's upposed to be when they reach the bench, but the refs usually give them 10 feet or so. And like Drew said, the new player can't touch the puck until the guy leaving is on the bench.
When I played, we used to shoot the puck into the crowd in front of the bench trying to get a too-many-men penalty on the other team. The other team didn't appreciate it very much.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at February 14, 2010 12:02 PM (sHSdO)
Posted by: toby928 at February 14, 2010 12:02 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: fluffy at February 14, 2010 12:04 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: dutchcedar at February 14, 2010 12:05 PM (2Ec7d)
Posted by: ExurbanKevin at February 14, 2010 12:08 PM (toqoX)
Posted by: fluffy at February 14, 2010 12:08 PM (4Kl5M)
Looks like the Philly morning rush hour at Daytona. Lots of people sitting around watching a PENNDOT crew take hours to fix a pothole.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at February 14, 2010 12:10 PM (sHSdO)
Looks like the Philly morning rush hour at Daytona. Lots of people sitting around watching a PENNDOT crew take hours to fix a pothole.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at February 14, 2010 04:10 PM (sHSdO)
If its anything like VDOT, the lots of people sitting around is the PENNDOT crew.
Posted by: Blazer at February 14, 2010 12:12 PM (t72+4)
Nah, it's only been about 50 minutes. PENNDOTers would still be in their trucks sipping their coffee.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 14, 2010 12:13 PM (y4B2y)
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at February 14, 2010 12:14 PM (BbTsC)
If its anything like VDOT, the lots of people sitting around is the PENNDOT crew.
It's usually one guy filling the hole and three dudes with coffees in their hands standing around watching him. Another guy might be nearby talking on a cellphone.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 14, 2010 12:14 PM (P33XN)
And after that, they move on to the "leaning on shovels" stage.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 14, 2010 12:14 PM (y4B2y)
It's usually one guy filling the hole and three
dudes with coffees in their hands standing around watching him. Another
guy might be nearby talking on a cellphone.
We're not talking about your home movies.
Posted by: Z Ryan at February 14, 2010 12:15 PM (cMo6P)
Posted by: Luca Brasi at February 14, 2010 12:16 PM (sHSdO)
And after that, they move on to the "leaning on shovels" stage.
Posted by: Ombudsman at February 14, 2010 04:14 PM (y4B2y)
I call it the "kickstand stage".
Posted by: Blazer at February 14, 2010 12:16 PM (t72+4)
We're not talking about your home movies.
I forgot about the guy with the camera. And the guy waving the orange flags.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 14, 2010 12:19 PM (P33XN)
For those who are dismissive of the biathalon, especially the wimmens, take a gander at this..
...it'll change your perspective
..unless you're PA....maybe
Posted by: beedubya at February 14, 2010 12:20 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Kaptain Amerika at February 14, 2010 12:22 PM (orGYr)
Hey, you hockey experts. How the hell do you score 82 times in a hockey game.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 14, 2010 12:25 PM (1fanL)
Hi from New Orleans, fellow Morons... last one for me and the wife for a while, as our first child is due shortly.
Dude, thanks for the update on Hejduk... we're dumping Charter Cable for DirecTV so that we can get a few decent channels and customer service that doesn't more closely resemble prison rape... part of the benefit of that is the NHL Network.
Anyway, watching the US ladies beat on China... they've kind of called off the dogs here, but an interesting anecdote for you about Team Canada- when I was working for the ECHL's New Orleans Brass in the late 90s, we had a goaltender whose sister is on Team Canada. Nice girl, really pretty, and I asked her how it was. She replied, "I've never felt so feminine in my life."
Posted by: tmi3rd at February 14, 2010 12:27 PM (P+yA/)
Posted by: Int'l Olympic Committee at February 14, 2010 12:28 PM (Vc/xe)
Posted by: T. Bagg the teabagger at February 14, 2010 12:30 PM (4Kl5M)
I say this because I recently dated a 45 y/o club player. Cute as a button, wonderfully feminine figure, platinum blonde hair, and sweet demeanor, great T&A.
A goalie too. She was a bit too good at "Stop that Puck!"
Posted by: Whitehall at February 14, 2010 12:30 PM (UTSWD)
There are only 2 teams (US and Canada) that are remotely competitive with each other and even then, the quality of play is low.
Posted by: DrewM. at February 14, 2010 12:32 PM (9B5OK)
If you lead with the hand that is closer to the target, it's a jab. If you use the other hand, it's a cross. If you sweep your hands around, that's a hook. If you're punching up from underneath, that's an uppercut. Haymakers are graduate studies for hockeyplayers.
Make sure the other idiot loses the helmet, because those fraking hurt. Make sure you lose the gloves, because it is tough to pummel someone effectively while they're still on there. Make sure your dental insurance is paid up.
Once you've dropped a glove or lost a helmet, there's no reason to avoid making sure you get a solid jab, cross, hook, hook into the other guy - you're going to get a penalty anyway, might as well make someone suffer for it. Note also that you can switch targets - you'll rarely get a double penalty for fighting, and they'll both feel obligated to retaliate.
There are limits in hockey. Really. The bottom of the skate isn't exactly like a knife, but it can (and has) kill people. No stepping on, kicking, etc. Jumping into the stands to pummel an idiot is also verboten mostly because it's bad for your skates. The stripy guys are supposed to be off limits, so you have to use the familiar football 'there was a receiver in the area!' defense if you want a punch or two at them.
Otherwise, most anything goes. The most vicious thing that won't always get you completely ejected from the game is 'Spearing'. Think Sir Lancelot. Usually it's more like leaving the bare knob of the stick protruding from the glove when you push/punch someone. High-sticking, slashing and crosschecking are other "aggravated assault with a deadly weapon that we'll only call a five-to-fifteen minute penalty cause the other guy likes it" oddities.
Hooking and tripping are basically a waste of a penalty. You're much better off with boarding or interference. Interference is wiping someone out when they don't have the little black thing. So it's kind of useful to time things just right. Unlike football, you don't have to wait for the receiver to actually touch the puck before you introduce him to lala-land.
Wait, one more set: There's two guys dressed up as Freddy Kruger out there, and they seem to have a license-to-slash-at-will. The freaking goalie sticks are about a +3 mace with increased pain allotment when they're applied to the back of your calves or knees - so just say no. On the other hand, if you're helping out the goalie on your own side, there's pretty much a complete rules-relaxation-zone as far as dealing with intruders. So make it count.
Posted by: Al at February 14, 2010 12:34 PM (0lyUI)
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Posted by: tmi3rd at February 14, 2010 12:40 PM (P+yA/)
Posted by: Colin MacDougall at February 14, 2010 12:47 PM (Q3v7q)
Datsyuk has heaps of talent, but only once did he actually show up for a post-season. Regular-season pizzazz means nothing if you can't deliver in April and May. The best players know how to notch it up when cup time rolls around. With a few exceptions, it's almost always the Canadians and Americans that can actually do that. How many times have we seen star Europeans and Russians vanish in the playoffs, Datsuyk included.
Posted by: Kevin Canuck at February 14, 2010 01:12 PM (eXcBd)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 01:12 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 01:14 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 01:16 PM (p302b)
Some updates:
Hossa no longer plays for Detroit.
Holmstrom is out with a knee in his last game yesterday. He will be replaced for Sweden by Detroit teammate Franzen (6-3, 220) - a big, strong forward and a scorer who has something like a goal a game in the playoffs the last two years.
Kronwall will also be on the blue line for Sweden and is a solid, experienced defenseman (Detroit) who hits like a train.
Datsyuk will be key for the Ruskies because of his 2-way game, if there is any weakness in Ovie's game, it is this.
Posted by: Robert at February 14, 2010 01:18 PM (cd6Ip)
Posted by: Luca Brasi at February 14, 2010 01:21 PM (sHSdO)
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Of course, as soon as they tossed softball, Japan upset the USA for the gold medal. Ooops.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at February 14, 2010 01:43 PM (sHSdO)
94 #23, #33
I recall him showing up last year...plus his team has been waning as his personal skills have expanded beyond mere puck magic.
He could be more standout in the playoffs, for sure. Who couldn't?
But offense comes from more than just shooters and passers...of which he is anchored amongst the tops in the league. Look at his takeaway #'s and his posession skills as those make all of the players on the ice with him better.
Note also, that the last two seasons, he has done the yeoman's pull through the regular season while his counterparts on the team were injured for long stretches.
Ovie has a long road ahead of him if he wants to satisfy the goals you set forward for post-season success = Hockey Talent.
Crosby is a bit ahead of him in that regard (ovie) but I'd give the nodd to Malkin over the two of them...maybe even stahl as well.
Posted by: Super Joe Biden at February 14, 2010 02:03 PM (UNOPX)
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at February 14, 2010 02:04 PM (oeESr)
You're right--last year PD played very well in the post season, and his skills are increasing--it will be awesome to see where his career takes him. And I would not quibble that he's incredibly talented along with Ovie and Crosby. All I'm saying is that the players that history shows as being truly great often have to have more than pure skills. Stepping up in the playoffs is critical for a player to rise to the next level.
There are many players whose skills are dwarfed by the three guys mentioned above, but have made names for themselves as franchise players and hall of famers because of their ability to punch above their weight in spring.
Posted by: Kevin Canuck at February 14, 2010 02:48 PM (eXcBd)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 02:51 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 02:52 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 03:08 PM (p302b)
Last year Sid became a good 2-way player and won a Cup.
Federov and Yzerman cut back on scoring, became 2-way players and won Cups.
Datsyuk and Zetterberg cut back on scoring, became 2-way players and won Cups.
You can bet that the Canadian wingers under Babcock will play defense. The idea is to win, not set scoring records, and there is more than 1 way to "step up."
Posted by: Robert at February 14, 2010 03:11 PM (cd6Ip)
BTW, "Da, da, Canada. Nyet, nyet, Sovyet!"
Posted by: andycanuck at February 14, 2010 03:19 PM (2qU2d)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2010 04:13 PM (J40Mw)
I watched the Cap play the Canadiens last night and it was a great game. The Caps were on a record-breaking 14 game winning streak and came out for blood, with Ovechkin foaming at the mouth. The Canadiens pushed them back into the Caps defensive zone and kept them trapped there out of pure panic, and it worked. They were up 5-2 at one point. Even so, they barely won with a goal made in the final 7.5 seconds of overtime after Ovechkin came out for murder in the third period and evened up the game. A helluva job and one of the best hockey games I've seen in ages.
I saw Crosby score his first NHL goal a few years back and you gotta love it. The kid was floating on ice.
I watched women's hockey once. It was like watching real hockey at 1/2 speed. Snooze.
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Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 04:48 PM (p302b)
Breaking News from Olympics--
Biden's Motorcade in Accident-- Peggy Fleming slightly injured
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Posted by: Matt at February 14, 2010 04:56 PM (QBsVk)
Posted by: INCITEmarsh at February 14, 2010 05:04 PM (FCn6Y)
Caps were on a record-breaking 14 game winning streak
Wasn't that a points streak?
I thought they lost a game in OT around 8-9 into that run...
Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 05:14 PM (UNOPX)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 05:44 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 05:52 PM (p302b)
Hey! It's not my fault. They were all driving on the wrong side of the road. Maniacs. Lucky I knew it was left-hand drive there, just like for that Queen lady I met in England.
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